They thought I was CHEATING... so they STREAM SNIPED me...

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ธ.ค. 2024

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  • @blacksea646
    @blacksea646 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +431

    to be fair, anyone would say it is cheating if they saw a 20/0 score board. and it is easier to say that a cheater destroyed me rather than I got demolished by a legit player.

    • @GHOST35150
      @GHOST35150 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      The sad reality of cs2...

    • @vyyr
      @vyyr 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      @@GHOST35150 but it would be the same thing in almost any game though?

    • @munkhjinnn
      @munkhjinnn 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      calling a legit player cheater and got yourself posted on youtube is more embarrassing i think.

    • @sebmcc
      @sebmcc 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yea even renyan does it

    • @Rabidhotdog
      @Rabidhotdog วันที่ผ่านมา

      yeah but they can see his inventory its public... thinking somebody with 30k+ inv is cheating is just kinda retarded.

  • @esdel1_zzz
    @esdel1_zzz 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +224

    "smurfing = cheatings" ren with 26k elo:

    • @konsta.k8825
      @konsta.k8825 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

      exactly like how can u smurf at 26k elo in premier LMAO

    • @dotmonkey3570
      @dotmonkey3570 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Right? lol. That's like calling a global player is csgo a smurf

    • @Audacitycs1
      @Audacitycs1 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's like calling level 10 player with 2800 elo smurfing lmao.

  • @OohWellp
    @OohWellp 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +123

    The "Insta scoping" allegation is the funniest shit when the guy is literally on the line to car lol
    (I'm laughing but I'd punch so hard I'd fix Niko's desk if I was the one playing against you xdd)

    • @Kurookie
      @Kurookie 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Not only that, but didnt he gave away his location by being aggressive and flashing mid? Lmao

  • @sacredeyes3508
    @sacredeyes3508 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    Imagine being a faceit level 9 stack, stream sniping, chat flaming the guy youre trying to stream snipe, distracting him by getting him to type a lot, AND STILL LOSE BY SEVERAL ROUNDS AND GET 30 BOMBED

  • @chrisdonahue
    @chrisdonahue 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +73

    That clutch was filthy…rent free in their heads haha

  • @MikkelwasThere
    @MikkelwasThere 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +87

    11:32 in the chat enemy green is complaining in czech is so funny :D + your green is also czech calling him slurs this shit was peak xDD

    • @killerbiller666
      @killerbiller666 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      As a czech, I can confirm xD, except Ren’s teammate, pretty sure hes Slovakian

    • @MikkelwasThere
      @MikkelwasThere 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@killerbiller666 ye he is but non-czech/slovakian ppl dont usually understand that we have very similar language so I just said that they are both czech :D

    • @killerbiller666
      @killerbiller666 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ makes sense, I mean, if my friend started speaking Slovakian with me infront of one of our non-slavic friends, they’d probably think we are also both speaking czech lol

    • @MaruvYoutube
      @MaruvYoutube วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      11:11 is peak for me. Pure Czech at its finest.

  • @grozzik2232
    @grozzik2232 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    "prefire ok" while staying on coffin is crazy

    • @lartza_85
      @lartza_85 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah like wtf bro, you are one of the most prefired spot on the whole game.

  • @Honzinho
    @Honzinho 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +52

    19:18 Renyan, you are asking if they started cheating.. no just BenQi told in my language "you got 1000 ppl on stream"... so they try to find it on twitch .. so he almost lose it cuz this :/

    • @beng3468
      @beng3468 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      if its from what he said in chat 13:03 then thats crazy full stream sniping from round 9-3 and they cant win, also explains why they killed ren so much in the following rounds

    • @renyan
      @renyan  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      yeah, this is why i wanted him to not say anything. it's not hard to open Twitch, go to the CS category and look for someone playing the same map as you on the thumbnails...

  • @normandygk12
    @normandygk12 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    It's funny how easy the guy who claims to despise cheaters resorts, to cheating himself, as soon as he starts losing. Also talking about "smurfing" in 27k lobby, anything to justify stream sniping.

  • @eliandorobantu78
    @eliandorobantu78 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Saddest opponents in a while, and the fact that he is delusional enough to say smurfing=cheating to fit his narrative at the end is crazy, very good video Ren. Tbh I hate these kind of sore losers more than cheaters, always bending reality so there is no cognitive dissonance in their perfect world

  • @OttoBeatss
    @OttoBeatss 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    bro said "smurfing = cheating so i was right" and he is lvl 10 himself???

    • @Sh4rk3j
      @Sh4rk3j 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      it is true ... but not here when he play on 26 K elo acc . If he played at 20 k and less elo that would be cheating because it would be unbalanced and the rewards would be unfair .

    • @hallo111gameplays
      @hallo111gameplays วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Sh4rk3j is it also cheating when I play on 5K instead of 15K and drop less kills than on 15K? xD

    • @TonyLibog
      @TonyLibog วันที่ผ่านมา

      yes man spit factsing smurf - cheater and he making game so unfair unplaying and faceit noob stream mode ahahaha

    • @Sh4rk3j
      @Sh4rk3j วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@hallo111gameplays yes ... everyone should play on their main account and not ruin other people's games to get their ego back there . I understand that Reney is a streamer ... but what I value most is that he plays on the same ELO as on maine. So it doesn't ruin the game for anyone and there is a balance

    • @hallo111gameplays
      @hallo111gameplays วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Sh4rk3j so if I keep losing on my main acc and it ends up below 10k while my smurf is still 15k it's okay cause it's my main acc?

  • @asgerschrder7703
    @asgerschrder7703 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Warrior Pepe sits in the most common spots and claim cheats, LOL

    • @Rattlesnake420
      @Rattlesnake420 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thats the problem with people like him, last night i played against a guy on dust 2 and mf was holding every prefire angle. He was 0-11 against me on their ct side and started yapping.

  • @johxi2169
    @johxi2169 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    ren and tweeday most enjoyable creators rn

  • @chuwii586
    @chuwii586 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    the flash transition at 2:34 caught me off guard, wp editor

  • @T0NI_
    @T0NI_ 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    level 10 being easier to get makes sense. Playing level 10 stacks on premier the couple times it's happened to me has not felt anything near to as hard as I would've thought

  • @haytham_420
    @haytham_420 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    2:34 renxNERD Actually, maybe he meant does NOT equal to.... As in programming,
    = is assign
    == is equal to
    != is not equal to
    Back to the banger of a video as always 💜

    • @b_mbyz
      @b_mbyz 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      i was gonna tell him lol ermm akchuallyy its code!!1

  • @haytham_420
    @haytham_420 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    4:20 THAT'S A GOOD ACHIEVEMENT 😹😹 lusii goated editor 💜

  • @360hans
    @360hans 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    basically "you better me?? no no you chets i streamsniper you now bro"

  • @lukhaasek
    @lukhaasek 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    11:07 i like how Czech green start be toxic in Czech language Xdd

    • @shfkeoxnckskdncnx
      @shfkeoxnckskdncnx 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      drz picuuuu :D :D

    • @lukhaasek
      @lukhaasek วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@shfkeoxnckskdncnx :DDD

    • @lukhaasek
      @lukhaasek วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@shfkeoxnckskdncnx nebudu

  • @VankaS_CS2
    @VankaS_CS2 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Banger video as always, Ren that 20-0 in first 7 rounds would make me be suspcious of you also man. What a clutch with the awp too, but the game is going on 600 FPS for you and your hands and aim are solid soo it seems like hacking LOL

  • @KoZa89
    @KoZa89 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    this is always the same.
    when i play like this, they are sure im cheating.
    then they writing and writing and writing and you answer - then you loose focus and then more bad. For this i have now muted all enemys, it's annoying and you're distracted

  • @Summanis
    @Summanis วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Can't believe these guys were calling you a cheater because you were SWAG (slaying while a gamer).

  • @MightyGames7
    @MightyGames7 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    in CS2 when someone gets one kill that is even slightly unnatural people automatically assume it's cheats, insane.

  • @denmla
    @denmla 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    bro ur content is crazy good, i really enjoy ur videos and everything u do, thanks for uploading videos every day!❤❤❤

  • @beng3468
    @beng3468 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    ace 1v4 clutch one of the cleanest rounds ive witnessed holy

    • @Shapi
      @Shapi 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      it was 1v5

    • @beng3468
      @beng3468 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ahh it was 1v5 teammate dies just before the first kill, yeah damn that’s a crazy round

  • @ion4209
    @ion4209 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The levels of saltiness from the enemies is insane lmfaoo

  • @marcuspatterson2389
    @marcuspatterson2389 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    15:20 you gotta put the sico mode sticker on the swag7, most iconic craft for the skin imo

  • @GHOST35150
    @GHOST35150 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    bro my fingers get so cold while playing i feel you

  • @devangraval3651
    @devangraval3651 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "smurfing = cheating" ren is smurfing in 26k. if VAC does exist ren will be first in no time. Always love your content.

  • @Risiuu
    @Risiuu 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Your teamate green said in the chat in Slovak : He has thousands of people in the stream. It is what it is

  • @thesmuggest6680
    @thesmuggest6680 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    NOO STREAM SPIDERS ALLOWED IN THE PREMISES

  • @xJ0NNY1337x
    @xJ0NNY1337x 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    bro recently i experience people/nades teleporting im about to uninstall. do you have any idea what that could be?!

  • @Joke89ful
    @Joke89ful 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    when you stream usually ?

  • @j0nk22
    @j0nk22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    lol the achievement pop-up with elo mentioned is great

  • @P3tr1t_
    @P3tr1t_ 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    It's weird they called Ren cheating while being lv 10 themselves. I instantly know when a player cheats and when a player is just a good player. I don't blame them for the only thing...the fact that premier is filled with cheaters and they prolly think they're lv 10 faceit and they're unkillable.
    You did them good Ren. Nice job.

  • @lugalkien1
    @lugalkien1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    "btw u know there are cheats that show skins :D ? "
    LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    • @dinfar7443
      @dinfar7443 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Bro has soap brain skin changer is client side not server such idiot😂🤣

    • @lugalkien1
      @lugalkien1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @dinfar7443 Ye if someone made server-side skin changer Valve would patch it permanently within 1 day xdd

    • @hallo111gameplays
      @hallo111gameplays วันที่ผ่านมา

      @dinfar7443 I remember that there was sth that could change the preview skins the models hold in lobbies tho...that was used for scamming ppl. After ppl joined and saw the skins in preview the scammers said: we actually don't want to play premier anymore but faceit now, wanna join? I'll give you link to the hub...and that was the scam link

  • @grunt.7861
    @grunt.7861 วันที่ผ่านมา

    6:09 no wasted movements on that clutch

  • @Aguafy
    @Aguafy วันที่ผ่านมา

    The opening kills insane Magin from their pov

  • @SomeRandomBeeGuy
    @SomeRandomBeeGuy 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    also how can you smurf on 27k? Does renyan have like 30k on other accs or what?

  • @denderhje5692
    @denderhje5692 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That might have just been one of the funniest games of counter strike I've ever watched!

  • @kaliber1024
    @kaliber1024 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bro crashed out in round 2 over Mac 10 running jump headshots and convinced himself and his team that was enough

  • @bhavyavampi
    @bhavyavampi 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    3:34 saying 26k rating "Low level accounts" bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh why telling us noobs :(

    • @Kurookie
      @Kurookie 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The effect of 800 points per win effect honestly lol
      I miss the 100 point per win system, you can constantly find lvl 10 faceit players at 18k elo back then, now its 50/50 :/

    • @hallo111gameplays
      @hallo111gameplays วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Kurookie I already had faceit 10s playing on 7K elo

    • @Kurookie
      @Kurookie วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@hallo111gameplays definitely believe u lmao, my friends with his faceit level 10 friends prefer playing on elo under 10k just to avoid cheater 3/5 stack

  • @ArnoldRajvanshi
    @ArnoldRajvanshi วันที่ผ่านมา

    nahh this is crazyy 20 kills and 0 deaths is crazy i dont blame them calling you a cheater lmaoo

  • @Crazey
    @Crazey 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If the other team sees this, y'all should be embarrassed, how can you say smurfing=cheating(in 26-27k??)
    Great vid btw ren

  • @vhivMAX
    @vhivMAX 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    In my game we are throwing T side like crazy. The next game you going 20/0 T side. WP

  • @cc12yt
    @cc12yt 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ah great, one last video while I eat my snacks and before going to sleep 😴(It's 5:26 AM)

  • @duwapcs
    @duwapcs วันที่ผ่านมา

    watching you play wakes something up inside me

    • @renyan
      @renyan  วันที่ผ่านมา

      i print out everything in your media tab on Twitter and frame it in my office

  • @eren.123-
    @eren.123- วันที่ผ่านมา

    2:33 "high elo != premier rank" the "!=" here means not equal in programming languages. He was saying high elo isn't premier rank.

  • @ivorybenzos
    @ivorybenzos 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    BenQi my Slovak brother was so chill and wrote funny thing like "drz picu" even tough nobody understood that :D so funny to do also those guys totally didnt deserve that elo and were super pathetic like cant go lower

  • @Brimaudi1337
    @Brimaudi1337 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    You use alias commands?

  • @gspolima
    @gspolima วันที่ผ่านมา

    The level of embarrassment one must feel...

  • @grunt.7861
    @grunt.7861 วันที่ผ่านมา

    was drowsy watching this live and woke up after this ACE 4:50

  • @axelcastillo7432
    @axelcastillo7432 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Calling out in the second round for knowing the oldest mirage bait is insane

  • @unluckyrgg
    @unluckyrgg วันที่ผ่านมา

    when i see people calling someone in my team out for cheating like that i just full on expect them to toggle on and keep on whining about cheating when they are cheating

  • @_iwhiisko7859
    @_iwhiisko7859 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    right on time, just for lunch.

  • @0Reda19
    @0Reda19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    old ren is back fr

  • @SeBoYa33
    @SeBoYa33 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    0:49 what did i just watch ?
    i had to replay it 3 times and my brain still doesnt process how those shots were 100% accurate

    • @weeb3856
      @weeb3856 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      SMG’s (mostly the MP9 and mac10) are ruining the game, which is what you see here. It’s RNG, gambling, a dice roll, as which player wins the duels. They promote an uncompetitive playstyle, like the one ren perfectly executed here. It’s not to say there wasn’t skill involved, but the point stands regardless.

    • @Kurookie
      @Kurookie 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      MP9/MAC-10 are the meta in CS2 now

    • @SeBoYa33
      @SeBoYa33 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@weeb3856 indeed i fully agree with you , and i'm pissed at the game for being this stupid with guns while removing movement on the game step by step , like now u can jump shot with some guns like up to 70% to 80% in some situations " not even close close range "
      sadly we have no power to change anything but only adapt x(

  • @wiwul997
    @wiwul997 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    bro plays coffins and is surprised he got prefired smh

  • @deepuhhh
    @deepuhhh 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    5:38 this proves you're just better ren

  • @DantalionVR
    @DantalionVR 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Your teammate was kinda unintentionally selling you out at 13:04 , he was telling the Croat Lvl10 on the enemy team that you had thousands of viewers, and skins worth thousands

    • @Honzinho
      @Honzinho 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Its not Croatia .. wtf.. its Czechia (Czech Republic and Slovakia) .. We have almost same language

  • @BringTheMachetE
    @BringTheMachetE 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    enemy team got 4k elo mogged :3 ALSO MY MOUSE PAD COMES TODAY LFG!!!!!!

    • @renyan
      @renyan  วันที่ผ่านมา

      let me know how you like it!!

  • @buddmcstudd6994
    @buddmcstudd6994 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Once bro staked his life on you cheating he got into his teammates heads and its over

  • @psecho4434
    @psecho4434 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Imagine being so damn good they think youre cheating

  • @emkeyss8065
    @emkeyss8065 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love that Spronx and Benqi are arguing in their native language :D Also your team8 "benqi" snitched u that u are streaming :D

  • @tony-zp1uq
    @tony-zp1uq 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    REEEEEEEEEEEN you always jinx it.. should have 30 and 0 deaths bro

  • @HediNaili
    @HediNaili 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    did you start to doubt yourself that you might be cheating xD
    insane 7 first rounds, almost hit every shot

  • @CalmSyke
    @CalmSyke วันที่ผ่านมา

    i was blessed to watch this live

  • @Barutoy
    @Barutoy 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What is ren res?

  • @Jas1uuu
    @Jas1uuu วันที่ผ่านมา

    this video is proving why i always mute enemy team (sorry for bad england)

  • @Chamsdlr
    @Chamsdlr 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is the ramen your main or new account because he could have just checked faceit

  • @henrydrawsven7082
    @henrydrawsven7082 วันที่ผ่านมา

    smurfing in 26k elo? thats crazy thing to say hahahahhaahhaa

  • @adamisbucek
    @adamisbucek 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    cz/sk debaty v tychto videach su goated

  • @Kalanarri47
    @Kalanarri47 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    why do i feel like i have already seen this video? are you sure this is a new one xD

  • @Jesal-
    @Jesal- 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    im 6 minutes into this video and i can't blame enemies for accusing you

  • @tak4043
    @tak4043 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I pulled 33 and 31 frag halves in 2004 and the whining was about the same level. It wasn't a PUG though.

  • @_shishio
    @_shishio 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    lusi did a fucking great job with this 🔥

  • @jonasjensen3415
    @jonasjensen3415 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    mr Warrior Pepe really reaching for something to make a cheat accusation seem relevant lmao

  • @xogmaster
    @xogmaster วันที่ผ่านมา

    imagine calling someone 26.7k elo a smurf in their premier lobby

  • @dummykeir1717
    @dummykeir1717 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Vac net moment where can't catch real cheater or not

  • @Kasslerguy
    @Kasslerguy 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    20 minute banger ❤ Unlucky game

  • @z2cke
    @z2cke 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    autostrafe/stop config release when?

  • @oooooba8343
    @oooooba8343 วันที่ผ่านมา

    smurfing with 26k elo against lvl 10 faceit players?... makes sense

  • @dr.F1L
    @dr.F1L 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yup that 1v5 is super nøtty

  • @owenwilson8337
    @owenwilson8337 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was in straem yyyaaaayy love the vid ❤❤❤

  • @lucaderbandit
    @lucaderbandit วันที่ผ่านมา

    why is ren not playing faceit anymore?

  • @jackegamer2001
    @jackegamer2001 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    LVL 10 FACEIT AND SNIPING IS SHAMELESSSSSSSSSS

  • @segu6041
    @segu6041 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    on which account did you have 4400 elo? your main steam acc is linked to some weird ass faceit accs and some other steam acc i checked that could be yours had 2500 with highest ever at 3000. honestly curios about that claim.

  • @krisztianfrandsen8780
    @krisztianfrandsen8780 วันที่ผ่านมา

    such loser behavour stream sniping then getting mad about it afterwards these players are holding themselves back in most parts of their gaming life i swear

  • @simongustavsson1757
    @simongustavsson1757 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fun thing i actually had 25:3 yesterday with 145 adr and i still lost game 😂 faceit in my heart

  • @pasta8788
    @pasta8788 วันที่ผ่านมา

    4:30 clutch

  • @milosdjokic3162
    @milosdjokic3162 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "smurfing = cheating" like you aren't 27k lol bre thinks his main is like 40k or smth
    all in all, very sad individuals

  • @jacobrek188
    @jacobrek188 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What is the renyan counterpart of „faceit andi“?

  • @SomeRandomBeeGuy
    @SomeRandomBeeGuy 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    DRRRRRRRRRRRAGOOOOOOOOON RRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOORE, cool video btw, enemies are losers tbh lmfao

  • @adosgamesk
    @adosgamesk 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    BenQi talking in slovak 😂

  • @Honzinho
    @Honzinho 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    11:03 drž picuuu :D hahahahha

    • @BlooDY-v7f
      @BlooDY-v7f 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      čekal sem na tehle koment xdxd

    • @Honzinho
      @Honzinho 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @BlooDY-v7f a on přišel 😆🤣

  • @Noire_.
    @Noire_. วันที่ผ่านมา

    "smurfing" at 26k? xd

  • @cybertronic1771
    @cybertronic1771 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    bruda u got som luck that day mhm

  • @PuppetMa5teR
    @PuppetMa5teR วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not saying it is impossible but I doubt the majority of cheaters have that kind of $$$kin collection, losing those gloves and butterfly knife for cheating would be a dumb thing to do unless you are filthy rich and dont give AF.

  • @Barz-l
    @Barz-l 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    who gonna cheat with so much expensive skins ??

  • @Sh4rk3j
    @Sh4rk3j 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It is completely normal that people think that someone who has 20:0 on a new acc . Also is true smurfing is cheating ... but it's also not bad if he has 26 k elo on the smurf then is fair for all match is balanced . It would be cheating if he had 20 k elo and less on smurf acc .