"...and the way you make death is by mixing salt together, and you get life and death, and you have to dispose of the life." Hmm, this sounds interesting.
I impulse bought this after seeing the video and it's quickly become one of my favorite games even having never played a Zachtronics game before, I would recommend this.
Space Chem didn’t really have much to do with chemistry, was basically just a framing device and label for the building blocks. For example, there wasn’t anything aside from the objectives stopping you from making O2 but with only one bond.
That would make most of the game much harder, really - it would mean that you'd need a lot more coordination to get the correct outputs. O=O is a double bond, but what if you need to make a peroxide? Any non-trivial compounds would be really tricky to get right. The way I imagined the thing actually working is with very precise controls and isolation. Yes, oxygen likes its double bonds. But not if you don't give it enough electrons. So a O-O bond would really be [O-O](2-), and making another bond would give you O=O. It seems technically possible to do these kinds of magic with sufficiently advanced nanotechnology, though I do wonder what the nano-manipulators themselves would be made of :D
Well, I mean, that game lets you create uranium through nuclear fusion... Fusing anything heavier than Iron is near enough impossible. By comparison creating single-bonded O2 would be pretty trivial. Especially if the oxygen is in a fully controlled environment the whole time...
Fusing heavier than iron elements requires energy, rather than releasing it. It can still be done if you don't mind putting energy in. The conditions required are rather extreme though - you either need a particle accelerator, or to blow up a star.
What I'm really waiting for is a sequel for Constructor: Engineer of the people. This had so much potential and was really fun. With more QOL and player-constructed abstraction layers this could be a real "from npn to commandline" thing. Like, first you make some logic gates, then ALU, Ram and stuff, resulting in a CPU+EMORY system (It is more than doable, you can do it in MHRD in a day). With some love you can have a keyboard and a monitor with custom protocols. Aaand then you write some assembly code, a driver for a monitor, and, finally, CLI with basic instructions. That would be nice.
I think this game is much more like Infinifactory than it is like Shenzhen IO. While this game definitely shows the UI improvements that Zachtronics made while developing Shenzhen, the gameplay is much more like Infinifactory in that there's so much more space, and it's an assembly line game for crying out loud! It's all about allocating space and planning movement of physical particles. I used to think Infinifactory was their easiest game, since it's much easier to create a working machine, but I think this game makes it even easier to solve a puzzle. I guess it shows that for these types of games, the user really has to _force_ themselves to optimize to get any good gameplay out of the game. I guess I liked the programming games more because they forced me to optimize, rather than let me choose to force myself to optimize.
yeah I got to the one with like a giant truck that's driving and you have to over-fill and blow up 3 silos to kill it, and I just ragequit. I couldn't do it.
well, this is more like a remake of the very first zachtronics game - which was something to do with alchemical engineering, and even involves rotating arms. So really this is a remake/sequel to the game that inspired spacechem. (making this is the older concept)
Opus Magnum is basically an update of one of Zach's best pre-Spacechem games, The Codex of Alchemical Engineering. It and its expansion, the "Magnum Opus Challenge", can be played for free in-browser at www.zachtronics.com I'm eagerly awaiting their update of KOHCTPYKTOP or Ruckingenur.
Looks great like all Zachtronics games and im sure to buy it. But im afraid, that like with SpaceChem and Infinifactory they will quickly prove me, that im to stupid to play them...
This is very much more accesible. There is a thread on steam with people just making stupid solutions. Those are big, ugly , costly machines that could probably be made in a "better" way. But guess what? It gets the job done! It just does the freaking thing, and it's just as valid as any other solution. They even have more artistic/aesthetic pleasing patterns than some of the top solutions
HuntingTarg Well, alchemists always were the most methodical and 'scientific' of the magical arts. XD There's a reason modern chemistry still shares many conceptual similarities with alchemy, yet all the other kinds of 'magic' have basically just been left behind entirely.
KuraIthys indeed. You could say methodical - there are many other 'methods' besides the scientific approach. Some of the ancient mystical ways were based on simply superstition. While I subscribe to scientific tradition, I acknowledge that science has limitations circumscribed by its scope of inquiry - the study of observable, measurable phenomena. All the same, looks like a fun game :]
Scott Manley what you think about Elon Musk's idea to use rockets like an airplanes? Even after their ideas about economy of scale it feels really dubious. Much love to all who like science.
+Cubert Miso do you mind if I give you my opinion? I think it could be viable as a by-product of an extreme drop in price of rocket parts and active use of LEO insertion vehicles, that is if the space travel was booming as is, so much so that it could compete with airlines, you, perhaps, could sort of fit in a market of suborbital transportation, so that UK-dysney flight would take only less than an hour start to finish, but then again, fuel is fuel, and I don't see it getting much cheaper in comparison to the amount that kerosene jets use, so no matter how cheap you can make suborbital rocket flight, you can always make airplane flight cheaper. Maybe if the space travel becomes so incredibly widespread that rocket engines and tanks(mass production surplus) will cost significantly less than a jet engine, under those unrealistic conditions, you might be on to something with suborbital rocket travel from point A to point B. Overall I think the idea is unrealistic to say the least even if we consider 80% reusability, since the fuel, well... You have to burn a lot of fuel to get something up to those speeds, and you have to carry your oxidizer with you too. I think Elon Musk used this image as a pretty picture to attract more attention. Small evil, to be honest, but an evil nonetheless.
Well, any movie editing software, anything EVE Online: Discovery does, a bunch of game making devices like Scratch (most of them better quality than Scratch), software simulation. I can go on/name specifics, if you'd like.
Doesn't really look anything like it IMO, but in any case it's based on an earlier (freeware) Zachtronics game called The Codex of Alchemical Engineering, which was released in 2008 whereas Atomas was released in 2015.
"...and the way you make death is by mixing salt together, and you get life and death, and you have to dispose of the life."
Hmm, this sounds interesting.
@@Orangaria yes
I impulse bought this after seeing the video and it's quickly become one of my favorite games even having never played a Zachtronics game before, I would recommend this.
An updated Codex of Alchemical Engineering. Sold.
I've played SpaceChem and loved every moment of it. This looks like SpaceChem on steroids.
I do believe I'll have to pick this up. I love puzzlers as refined as this
Sir, I bought this watching your stream!
Another Zachtronics game already? I haven't even finished Shenzhen IO!
same. I'm stuck on... I think it's some sort of packet switcher or something. 3 inputs 3 outputs, send the input to the correct output over xbus....
Space Chem didn’t really have much to do with chemistry, was basically just a framing device and label for the building blocks. For example, there wasn’t anything aside from the objectives stopping you from making O2 but with only one bond.
lol. I'm not disagreeing with you, but I do want to say that of all the things that game could've used, MORE constraints was not really one of them.
PolyJohn dunno that it would be harder, hypothetically I’d expect the correct number of bonds to form when two atoms are joined.
That would make most of the game much harder, really - it would mean that you'd need a lot more coordination to get the correct outputs. O=O is a double bond, but what if you need to make a peroxide? Any non-trivial compounds would be really tricky to get right.
The way I imagined the thing actually working is with very precise controls and isolation. Yes, oxygen likes its double bonds. But not if you don't give it enough electrons. So a O-O bond would really be [O-O](2-), and making another bond would give you O=O. It seems technically possible to do these kinds of magic with sufficiently advanced nanotechnology, though I do wonder what the nano-manipulators themselves would be made of :D
Well, I mean, that game lets you create uranium through nuclear fusion...
Fusing anything heavier than Iron is near enough impossible.
By comparison creating single-bonded O2 would be pretty trivial.
Especially if the oxygen is in a fully controlled environment the whole time...
Fusing heavier than iron elements requires energy, rather than releasing it. It can still be done if you don't mind putting energy in. The conditions required are rather extreme though - you either need a particle accelerator, or to blow up a star.
Lol I'm so glad somebody is able to appreciate these games
:) Really enjoyed this game. Wish it had a bit more content
What I'm really waiting for is a sequel for Constructor: Engineer of the people. This had so much potential and was really fun. With more QOL and player-constructed abstraction layers this could be a real "from npn to commandline" thing. Like, first you make some logic gates, then ALU, Ram and stuff, resulting in a CPU+EMORY system (It is more than doable, you can do it in MHRD in a day). With some love you can have a keyboard and a monitor with custom protocols. Aaand then you write some assembly code, a driver for a monitor, and, finally, CLI with basic instructions. That would be nice.
+Saburo Kobayashi Yep, I’d like to see that brought to life as a full game.
You have probably learned already, but the reset instruction includes dropping! Nice video thanks
Just like staging in ksp :D
Pizzacraft this should work
stages parachutes before boosters
Awesome game and really good video, I'd like to watch you play this more if you saw anything you think would be interesting to show
Who's "illectro" guy, who has all the high scores in all categories in all of his games?
+TheArklyte it’s some loser who has no steam friends
Scott Manley Lol, who knew that Scott Manley roasted more things than just his Kerbonauts!
This game is really great.
Can't wait to fix my laptop and get all these good games that are coming out! :)
Is this guy the evolution of northernlion?!, i think i must watch more of this
The reset command also releases, so that release command at the end is redundant. >.>
+Keldor314 it won’t save any cycles though.
It still represents gratuitous manual labor!
I think this game is much more like Infinifactory than it is like Shenzhen IO. While this game definitely shows the UI improvements that Zachtronics made while developing Shenzhen, the gameplay is much more like Infinifactory in that there's so much more space, and it's an assembly line game for crying out loud! It's all about allocating space and planning movement of physical particles. I used to think Infinifactory was their easiest game, since it's much easier to create a working machine, but I think this game makes it even easier to solve a puzzle. I guess it shows that for these types of games, the user really has to _force_ themselves to optimize to get any good gameplay out of the game. I guess I liked the programming games more because they forced me to optimize, rather than let me choose to force myself to optimize.
Prydaz, Xavaric's Magnum Opus
I would've swapped the bottom two thingamabobs around
So basically, Spacechem on a hex grid?
SpaceChem on a hex grid, possibly more versatile tools, and I don't see the action/battle levels I got stuck on.
yeah I got to the one with like a giant truck that's driving and you have to over-fill and blow up 3 silos to kill it, and I just ragequit. I couldn't do it.
well, this is more like a remake of the very first zachtronics game - which was something to do with alchemical engineering, and even involves rotating arms.
So really this is a remake/sequel to the game that inspired spacechem.
(making this is the older concept)
You should do a ksp challenge where you build the tallest, skinniest rocket possible
Is there a mode for Freeplay? Like just messing around and seeing what you can make?
So it's like Spacechem, but with Hexagons?
No, it's the game that Spacechem was *based on*, but with hexagons.
I was just playing granblue fantasy with Cagliostro on my team lol
「真理の前に跪け！ オプス・マグナ！」
How is he / are they cranking these out so fast? I'm still stuck trying to write a design doc for my first game D:
It is essentially the same game with a different theme. They have their design doc mostly done from the first game :P
Opus Magnum is basically an update of one of Zach's best pre-Spacechem games, The Codex of Alchemical Engineering. It and its expansion, the "Magnum Opus Challenge", can be played for free in-browser at www.zachtronics.com
I'm eagerly awaiting their update of KOHCTPYKTOP or Ruckingenur.
This reminds me of spacechem.
could you play a few episodes of this?
You can watch me play it live - check my streams on twitch.tv/szyzyg or here's me playing some early levels:
th-cam.com/video/iMtNsQBZh3M/w-d-xo.html
Can you explain how to download kax mod on ksp 1.3 version? Plz
look the same with SpaceChem by objective, but with new mechanic
I was watching this on a twitch stream. it looks fun. but not really my thing.
Looks great like all Zachtronics games and im sure to buy it. But im afraid, that like with SpaceChem and Infinifactory they will quickly prove me, that im to stupid to play them...
Then try Shenzhen IO. I think it is the hardest :D
Thankfully, this one is more accessible for several reasons.
This is very much more accesible. There is a thread on steam with people just making stupid solutions. Those are big, ugly , costly machines that could probably be made in a "better" way. But guess what? It gets the job done! It just does the freaking thing, and it's just as valid as any other solution. They even have more artistic/aesthetic pleasing patterns than some of the top solutions
Oh wow
"Then it goes down to the bottom and we've bombed my sister / chemical "
Yeah, I got really turned off of Shenzen IO even though I loved the idea, because I don't know anything about writing code.
I think Infinifactory is the most accessible but Opus Magnum is a close second.
...a game that marries programming, chemistry, and mysticism. Huh, 'magine nat!
HuntingTarg Well, alchemists always were the most methodical and 'scientific' of the magical arts. XD
There's a reason modern chemistry still shares many conceptual similarities with alchemy, yet all the other kinds of 'magic' have basically just been left behind entirely.
KuraIthys indeed.
You could say methodical - there are many other 'methods' besides the scientific approach. Some of the ancient mystical ways were based on simply superstition.
While I subscribe to scientific tradition, I acknowledge that science has limitations circumscribed by its scope of inquiry - the study of observable, measurable phenomena.
All the same, looks like a fun game :]
hullo back at ya
At last! One of his games that is forgiving to the dumb folk like me!
This reminds me infiny factory in some ways
same developer
Is this one of those "games" that scientists use to create actual real-world solutions?
I have no idea
As of 10/29/2007 YOU CANNOT cut and paste instructions (at least by using Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V) though there is a repeat option command.
You can ctrl+click and drag to copy
+Jared select, hold control, click and drag.
Is it on xbox one?
Scott Manley what you think about Elon Musk's idea to use rockets like an airplanes? Even after their ideas about economy of scale it feels really dubious. Much love to all who like science.
+Cubert Miso
do you mind if I give you my opinion?
I think it could be viable as a by-product of an extreme drop in price of rocket parts and active use of LEO insertion vehicles, that is if the space travel was booming as is, so much so that it could compete with airlines, you, perhaps, could sort of fit in a market of suborbital transportation, so that UK-dysney flight would take only less than an hour start to finish, but then again, fuel is fuel, and I don't see it getting much cheaper in comparison to the amount that kerosene jets use, so no matter how cheap you can make suborbital rocket flight, you can always make airplane flight cheaper. Maybe if the space travel becomes so incredibly widespread that rocket engines and tanks(mass production surplus) will cost significantly less than a jet engine, under those unrealistic conditions, you might be on to something with suborbital rocket travel from point A to point B.
Overall I think the idea is unrealistic to say the least even if we consider 80% reusability, since the fuel, well... You have to burn a lot of fuel to get something up to those speeds, and you have to carry your oxidizer with you too.
I think Elon Musk used this image as a pretty picture to attract more attention. Small evil, to be honest, but an evil nonetheless.
Thank you for your opinion friend! Do you mean necessary evil?
+Cubert Miso
exactly, my grammar didn't come together too well there since it was 1 AM when I wrote it, hehe.
That one on "reddit" looks like the one I posted to imgur
I guess there are some small differences imgur.com/t/opus_magnum/lYf0n
You know, there's a bunch of software like this, but they usually result in making a viable product, rather than a viable fictional product.
Um, what? Name one
Well, any movie editing software, anything EVE Online: Discovery does, a bunch of game making devices like Scratch (most of them better quality than Scratch), software simulation. I can go on/name specifics, if you'd like.
No thats okay, you've more than proven you're a fucking idiot. Thanks!
Northernlion beat you to this one, ouch. That's like getting outsmarted by your dog.
6:18 haha that's a uh...
I know only spacechem, this one sounds less interesting to me
yea that final build looks ugly
9th!
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Kindof a atomas ripof
Doesn't really look anything like it IMO, but in any case it's based on an earlier (freeware) Zachtronics game called The Codex of Alchemical Engineering, which was released in 2008 whereas Atomas was released in 2015.
I see absolutely no similarity between the two.
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