エクセリーザが放った、決死の一撃は、プレアレオースの中心核を貫いた！ 〜 暗黒の宇宙に飲み込まれていくプレアレオース・・・・ 〜 「対戦終了、帰還する！」 -------------------------------- Exeliza fired a decisive blow that pierced the central heart of Pleiades! ~ The Plealos is being swallowed by the darkness of space... ~ "The battle is over, returning home!"
Decade's back and I'm sure this is a fact for all of us Thunder Force fans here?! We'd all say that 3 & 4 were the best (I know I did!) of the series and on a technical standpoint they are?! Thunder Force 2 is the most innovative and unique still to this day 33 years later. Because of this and having played this Sharp X68000 version, it's now my favorite version out all the games, so ahead off it's time even in the era off shoot em ups of 1988. The reason why T.F. 5 & 6 didn't do great because they both feel tired and uninspiring, the franchise needs to go back to its overhead levels of T.F. 1 & 2 if it ever hopes to regain momentum again. Thunder Force 7 if it should become reality?! Needs it's overhead free roaming semi vertical level system back. Otherwise the series might as well hang up it's thrusters sigh.....
Thanks for your thoughtful comment. I need to install an X68 emulator again and try this one out, finally - it's been one of my favourite videos to watch for a while (music is fantastic). And yes, you're totally right... 3 & 4 come to mind as the best, especially IV (for me). But II has so much innovation and variety in it, it would not do injustice to discount this achievement.
I like the exclusive stages and tweaks of the x68000 version. too bad no one bother to reunite x68000 and md stages in one perfect thunderforce 2 version.
I am not Roy, I just upload the videos I collected over the years so everyone can see them! I made a few replays, too, but my alias is "AVE". I am based in Canada!
This game, although considered by some as the black sheep of the series, it is also the best in the series if you combine the creator's original idea with more effort and love to it. But since the 3rd entry, horizontal scrolling became the main focus to compete with Gradius, R-TYPE, RayXanber, Darius and other similar shooters.
I do love Thunder Force II, I love how primitive and rough around the edges it feels, but I totally understand why some may not like it or even consider it a badly-designed game, because they're not wrong. Even comparing just the horizontal levels in II versus anything in any of the later games, the later games knock it out of the park, especially IV. They're just much better designed and clearly had more thought and effort put into them. But even then, I do agree that this idea should've been improved upon. I think this could've been an awesome hybrid overhead/side-scroller series if all the levels were better designed. But at the same time, making it just a side-scrolling game meant it so that the later games had a bit more of a focus and that does show with how much better they're designed imo.
@@SixtyforceYTP I think Bangai-O for the Dreamcast did a good job of non-autoscrolling SHMUP. That game is viewed sideways but it could work just as easily in concept as an overhead 'exploratory SHMUP'. It's the closest thing I can think of though that expands on the idea.
Cardboard Sliver I think what the pilot meant was that simply he was rtbing or returning to base hence him saying I’ll be right back. It can’t be going to tf3 since the identities of the pilots in that game are revealed when you beat the game
Why is it that the thunder force series is over 20 years old & hasn't had a proper transfer to HD on all the new video game formats. I would pay full price for a Thunder Force Legends pack with Thunder Force I - VI with remixed music and possibly remixed graphics... Imagine getting to pick your ship & then getting to play through anyone of these classic games. The justice ray from #5 tearing through the levels of this game right here, etc, etc...
I posted it on a forum about the same time I posted this comment and I was told that it could be the enemy telling the player to surrender: "You're finished! End the war." And considering the player and mission control converse with each other at the start of the game sounds different to the one used here, because it sounds like it's been pitch-shifted down some, I think it's the enemy telling the player to surrender.
That would make sense, I tinkered with the speed and I can barely understand it when the voice says finished. But unclear voices and misheard dialogue can have charm and hilarity to it.
I am not the player, I just had this replay saved for over 13 years. I can't give a guarantee whether savestates were used, but I suspect that not based on looking at the gameplay.
For Sharp x68000 version: MCM(Top view), Atomic and Side Winder(Side view) For Sega Mega Drive/Genesis version: Clash(Top view), Side Blaster and Nova(Side view).
Now I know where the image that was in the Genesis instruction manual (but was not in the game) came from. This version does seem to be missing my favorite level music though. Interesting to see all the differences.
@@nathancalvert6757 Stage 1 is the best. A great opening track. Stage 2 is another great one. Stage 8 in the Megadrive version is killer and screams "warning....death is ahead"
This Thunder force 2 was be release date maker games of Rizna Games in February 7th 2018 and games was be called add games named Thunder Force 2 3D This games was be free in the steam Free To Play | Play Game
Prefer the Mega Drive version to be honest. Music sounds better on that version too imo. The explotion sound in this sounds like someone took on a paper bag.
I feel so cheated this has so much more cool stuff than the Genesis version. Better intro and ending, plus 2 more levels. The japanese always kept the best shit for themselves.
not only that, but they could have released ios/android ports of most DC games at very little cost. And on top of that, many arcade games that NEVER got console releases (system 32 anyone?). Sega are fools - their catalog is a goldmine!
can anyone translate the text at the end?
エクセリーザが放った、決死の一撃は、プレアレオースの中心核を貫いた！
〜
暗黒の宇宙に飲み込まれていくプレアレオース・・・・
〜
「対戦終了、帰還する！」
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Exeliza fired a decisive blow that pierced the central heart of Pleiades!
~
The Plealos is being swallowed by the darkness of space...
~
"The battle is over, returning home!"
@@Toarcade Well thanks!
Decade's back and I'm sure this is a fact for all of us Thunder Force fans here?! We'd all say that 3 & 4 were the best (I know I did!) of the series and on a technical standpoint they are?! Thunder Force 2 is the most innovative and unique still to this day 33 years later. Because of this and having played this Sharp X68000 version, it's now my favorite version out all the games, so ahead off it's time even in the era off shoot em ups of 1988. The reason why T.F. 5 & 6 didn't do great because they both feel tired and uninspiring, the franchise needs to go back to its overhead levels of T.F. 1 & 2 if it ever hopes to regain momentum again. Thunder Force 7 if it should become reality?! Needs it's overhead free roaming semi vertical level system back. Otherwise the series might as well hang up it's thrusters sigh.....
Thanks for your thoughtful comment. I need to install an X68 emulator again and try this one out, finally - it's been one of my favourite videos to watch for a while (music is fantastic). And yes, you're totally right... 3 & 4 come to mind as the best, especially IV (for me). But II has so much innovation and variety in it, it would not do injustice to discount this achievement.
compared to thunder force 3, 2 was much more difficult as you lost all your weapons if you died. In 3 you only lost the weapon you were using.
I like the exclusive stages and tweaks of the x68000 version. too bad no one bother to reunite x68000 and md stages in one perfect thunderforce 2 version.
I am not Roy, I just upload the videos I collected over the years so everyone can see them! I made a few replays, too, but my alias is "AVE".
I am based in Canada!
Huh, the tank boss is easier than on the megadrive. I remember there being missiles flying at you from the right.
珍しい メガドライブだけじゃないんですね、美しい音源ですね
今は故き長崎佐世保のテクノソフト、X68版サンダーフォースⅡは神作品、デビルクラッシュ元ナグザットの作品、通販限定のテレホンカードもう二度と入手出来ない。
Incredible insight!
It is the Sharp X68000 version, not the MD port.
Insane game on any version though... Simply can't survive that 13:00 underground stage !
I also want a Thunder Force VII & VIII by Sega & Technosoft... I can't be the only one who thinks of these things
I like how he kept on getting the extra resources even though he already HAD them.
I think you get a score boost, could be wrong though.
I see this video now, and wonder if there is a better version of Herzog Zwei out there as well.
There is a ridiculous amount of enemy bullets onscreen in this game when on hard mode.
Wow, this is even better than the already good MD version, with more layers of parallax, colours and also in higher resolution?
The X68000 was a more powerful system than MD, MD has some improvements over this tho.
This game, although considered by some as the black sheep of the series, it is also the best in the series if you combine the creator's original idea with more effort and love to it. But since the 3rd entry, horizontal scrolling became the main focus to compete with Gradius, R-TYPE, RayXanber, Darius and other similar shooters.
I do love Thunder Force II, I love how primitive and rough around the edges it feels, but I totally understand why some may not like it or even consider it a badly-designed game, because they're not wrong. Even comparing just the horizontal levels in II versus anything in any of the later games, the later games knock it out of the park, especially IV. They're just much better designed and clearly had more thought and effort put into them. But even then, I do agree that this idea should've been improved upon. I think this could've been an awesome hybrid overhead/side-scroller series if all the levels were better designed. But at the same time, making it just a side-scrolling game meant it so that the later games had a bit more of a focus and that does show with how much better they're designed imo.
@@SixtyforceYTP I think Bangai-O for the Dreamcast did a good job of non-autoscrolling SHMUP. That game is viewed sideways but it could work just as easily in concept as an overhead 'exploratory SHMUP'. It's the closest thing I can think of though that expands on the idea.
Yeah, I've been interested in Bangai-O for ages, it looks rly cool, I so wanna play it.
This game had variety - something it's two sequels (while technically better) lacked .
"Mission Complete. I'll be right back."
Like, where are you going now that you pierced the center or "PREAROS!!"? The bathroom?
Thunder Force 3.
Cardboard Sliver I think what the pilot meant was that simply he was rtbing or returning to base hence him saying I’ll be right back.
It can’t be going to tf3 since the identities of the pilots in that game are revealed when you beat the game
Well, that's weird. How come I distinctly heard the computer voice say "sidewinder" but I don't see a sidewinder weapon on the selection bar?
+DGneoseeker1 Please disregard this comment if you already found out:
The tab that reads S W uses the initials for sidewinder.
dezoriajin
Derp....
Why is it that the thunder force series is over 20 years old & hasn't had a proper transfer to HD on all the new video game formats. I would pay full price for a Thunder Force Legends pack with Thunder Force I - VI with remixed music and possibly remixed graphics... Imagine getting to pick your ship & then getting to play through anyone of these classic games. The justice ray from #5 tearing through the levels of this game right here, etc, etc...
You are right, I changed it. Thanks for the heads up!
Excellent play. Which Country Are you based in , Toarcade /Roy ?
I love how she says "Side Winder" @ 3:08. It's almost sexual. And @ 11:26 it sounds like she's saying "LOL!" :D
I lov this game soo much never get sik of it play n it. The X68000 version just sounds soo much better than the Genesis version
I've listened to the voice sample at 24:08 so many damn times and I have no idea what it's trying to say, someone help me out.
From what I can hear: "You beast! End the war!" or it could be "and the war".
I posted it on a forum about the same time I posted this comment and I was told that it could be the enemy telling the player to surrender: "You're finished! End the war." And considering the player and mission control converse with each other at the start of the game sounds different to the one used here, because it sounds like it's been pitch-shifted down some, I think it's the enemy telling the player to surrender.
That would make sense, I tinkered with the speed and I can barely understand it when the voice says finished. But unclear voices and misheard dialogue can have charm and hilarity to it.
Anazing how there's 9 million shooters one the X68K and they're all great. Wonder how they recorded this.
Back in the day a capture card between monitor & PC, later on emulation
@@Toarcade figured. That's how arcade superplays were done, split the video from Jamma
Very, very good.
Can you clarify if you did this with no save states/tools/cheats?
I am not the player, I just had this replay saved for over 13 years. I can't give a guarantee whether savestates were used, but I suspect that not based on looking at the gameplay.
@@Toarcade Where did you get the video from?
A very, very long time ago I downloaded this and many others of my channel's replays from a page called ikaruga.co.uk before it went offline.
@@Toarcade I see
どんだけウマいのっっ！！！！！
・・・・・僕これのEASYモードクリアするのに半年かかったのに・・・。
日本人のコメント少ないよね
日本のゲームなのに
しかも以後のサンダーフォースの基礎になった名作なのに
@@有馬高昭 やっぱり日本ではｘ６８０００はもちろんメガドライブを持っている人も少なかったからじゃないでしょうか・・・。海外ではスーファミを蹴散らす勢いで売れてたから、メガドラ版のサンダーフォース２をやったことある人が結構いるんじゃないかと・・・。逆にサターンは日本ではけっこう売れたから、その後のサンダーフォースシリーズについては日本人の方がくわしいのかもしれません・・・。
個人的にはｘ６８ｋ版のサンダーフォース２とパロディウスだ！は人生で一番あそんだシューティングだから思い入れは深いのですが・・。
1:05 what does it say in the beginning..
More like "- This is Exceliza, I will deploy now". "- Roger, good luck".
For Sharp x68000 version: MCM(Top view), Atomic and Side Winder(Side view)
For Sega Mega Drive/Genesis version: Clash(Top view), Side Blaster and Nova(Side view).
How much do x68000's go for nowadays?
Now I know where the image that was in the Genesis instruction manual (but was not in the game) came from. This version does seem to be missing my favorite level music though. Interesting to see all the differences.
You talking about that crazy side scroll stage that goes backwards mid way? I think that was level 8 (in the ruins with lots of bad guys)
Which was your favorite level music?
@@nathancalvert6757 Stage 1 is the best. A great opening track. Stage 2 is another great one. Stage 8 in the Megadrive version is killer and screams "warning....death is ahead"
24:08 What is he saying?
This Thunder force 2 was be release date maker games of Rizna Games in February 7th 2018 and games was be called add games named Thunder Force 2 3D This games was be free in the steam
Free To Play | Play Game
Is it still a thing now?! Or let me guess the game/idea got canceled?! Such a shame as I'd love play this Thunder Force 2 3D concept sigh...
1:46 "TengoUnDigimon?" (i have a digimon?)
Lunitaproductions Santana Lorenzo Breaker System on*
Thank you, ive been trying to pronounce it for years!
This Rizna have a game was be titled Thunder Force 2 3D with 10 Worlds and 20 Stages, this stage have 2 view is Isometric and Side
What does "no miss" refer to? The player definitely missed a lot of enemies in stage 2.
No miss simply means no death.
such a sick game
wow it looks so much better than mega drive version
Because Sega doesn't like making money. Why else haven't we seen a JSR3 or a good Sonic game?
Prefer the Mega Drive version to be honest. Music sounds better on that version too imo. The explotion sound in this sounds like someone took on a paper bag.
James Carmichael All thanks to the psg chip in the megadrive
I feel so cheated this has so much more cool stuff than the Genesis version. Better intro and ending, plus 2 more levels. The japanese always kept the best shit for themselves.
The Mega Drive's cartridge had 4 megs, and this computer is more powerful than the Mega Drive. Baseless comparison.
Seems to be missing my favorite level music from the Genesis one though.
Marco Polo people can dream, sir
1989 Mega Drive
1:07 : what is he saying? LADDER, GOOD LUCK
He said “Roger, Good Luck!”
A tough game.
this game was brutal! ^_^
not only that, but they could have released ios/android ports of most DC games at very little cost. And on top of that, many arcade games that NEVER got console releases (system 32 anyone?). Sega are fools - their catalog is a goldmine!
After Replace Timeslot For Thunder Force I
Now, do it without autofire ^^
Subbed...lol
Excuse me, Toarcade. What is your email address?
All I can Say is wow....
乙
Overhead stages were garbage, no matter the platform.