Comparing the cost and yield of GMO v. Non GMO corn. @thislldofarm @barntalk @MillennialFarmer @ColeTheCornstar #farm #farming #GATA #georgiasouthern #corn @GeorgiaSouthernUniv
It is so interesting seeing the data up close. And there isn't any anti gmo bias, just honest to goodness how is this plant doing. I am looking forward to seeing the seasons final results. Thanks for another great video.
@@PatrickShivers We have a very wet spring here, everything is a month behind. Doesn't grow really well and in some areas they haven't been able to sow and plant yet.
Is the Dekalb RIB hybrid? That's a 20% refuge, so you would have to pick 100 ears to get a close estimate of efficacy. In my area, the 20% RIB is all you can get in the BT earworm variety. I'm not criticizing, just an observation. You are making an excellent point. Can't wait for the yield monitor results. Taller corn is better, especially for silage volume, because it can absorb more sunlight. Shorter corn can stand more "weather" such as windstorms. 👍👍
@@nnekaonwuachi-iheagwara2875 without a label there is no way. GMO, non-GMO, and organic have no visual distinctions from one another other than organic and non-gmo will both have more bug damage on them and are more likely to have mold issues.
Very interesting results. One question I didn't ask yesterday, was if the non-gmo corn will sell at a different price? Seems like the market has a premium on non-gmo produce.
I got roughly 20 pounds of a dekalb variety from a friend of mine and planted about 2 acres I sprayed it with roundup and it killed some of it and some it didn’t.
Did you think about the cross pollination making the non gmo genetically modified? I wouldn’t eat anything within 25-30 feet from that gmo corn. Cool test tho and showing truth about their “technology”!
I did. I don’t think cross pollination occurred as there is a hard line distinction in height and worm population. If they cross pollinated you would expect a gradual blending of traits where they meet.
@@PatrickShivers it will I agree.. But if it’s in the seed and you are eating the seeds how are you not putting genetic modifications in your body and your families body?
@@microsoilenhancersinspirey5750 if you have consumed any corn or soybean product (Doritos for an example or vegetarian meat such as the “impossible whopper”) in the last 30 years then you’ve consumed GMO. There is no human in the US that hasn’t consumed a lot of GMO products. I personally don’t believe there is any health risk, as most of the developed world has been consuming these goods for over 30 years and the direct link to an illness has not yet been made. With the introduction of Dicamba we no longer need the Roundup Ready gene in corn or soybeans, and the BT gene is obviously failing. Thus meaning GMO is no longer needed in corn and soybeans. It is also used in cotton and is still useful there.
No. At the row where they meet there is a sharp 18” difference in height and worm pressure immediately changes from moderate to 0. If they had cross pollinated the rows where they met would have shared some traits, meaning the height difference wouldn’t be as pronounced and the worm contamination/resistance would have been intermingled. Most of the corn (of both varieties) is going to the same place at harvest time also
@@MorganOtt-ne1qj I have planted some GMO sweet corn before, a few thousand acres of it is grown about 30 miles south of me. It was $600 for a very small bag I could carry in one hand.
@@PatrickShiverswe used a tank mix of Princep and Atrex for years for a combo punch on grass and broadleaf. Only pulled a cultivator through it once at lay by. We tried our best to eliminate the cultivator altogether, because a row crop cultivator is the worst thing in the world to scatter nutgrass and johnsongrass all over a field. If we have to go back to the cultivator, I'm afraid 30 years of hard work on nutgrass control will go out the window.
@@microsoilenhancersinspirey5750 $5.17 the day I recorded that video, it’s $4.88 this minute. According to the banks the break even on corn here is producing 200 bushels per acre at a contract price of $5
@@microsoilenhancersinspirey5750 supply and demand. There is far less corn acres here. This is peanut and cotton country, but the chicken industry is huge here. Chickens don’t eat peanuts and cotton. Corn is hauled in from out west on trains b/c we can’t grow enough of it here to feed all the chickens. When corn gets up above $6 local then the acres increases. Peanut target is $600 a ton with 2.5-3 ton per acre yield. Cotton is currently below break even (as is corn @ $4.88)
@@PatrickShivers I looked at a farm in Alabama that had a standing 50 cent premium because of the chickens to corn ratio also.. Wonder why they build all them chicken houses where the food is scarce? Looks like you are growing good corn.. But diversity is what keeps a farm going.. And you seem to be diverse..
Just because it’s gmo doesn’t mean it’s glyphosate tolerant. And the just because it’s bt corn doesn’t mean it won’t have ear worms it means it won’t have corn bore. Ear worm protection comes from double pro or tricepta. But still the ear worms have to eat some to die. Plus there is refuge corn in the gmo so there is some corn in your dekalb that isn’t by.
@@ezzybig the refuge seed in the Dekalb isn’t 50%, which is what we’re finding all across the field. While yes, they do have to eat some to die, they shouldn’t be fully matured worms (as in this video). The BT gene typically kills them on day 1 or 2. I was a cotton scout for 10 years. I’ve seen the BT technology fail on this level only 1 other time. It was in cotton as the tech in the delta pine 555 was reaching the end of it’s efficacy.
Amazing! I knew you'd be happy with hybrid85. Up here in WI been having excellent luck and yield. Especially with drought last yr. Will never go back to the big name seed. No issues with weeds, bugs, worms or grass. CapenoGt and Primero worked for me for herbicide.
It is so interesting seeing the data up close. And there isn't any anti gmo bias, just honest to goodness how is this plant doing. I am looking forward to seeing the seasons final results. Thanks for another great video.
Great video. That you for explaining your experience
@@shimmeringflameoflight that’s what my entire channel is dedicated to…explaining agricultural practices and results
Nice test Patrick, not all those GMO crops are great. Thanks for the video. All your videos are great to watch. Greetings from the Netherlands.
My potato yield was sub par again this year. Next year is my final attempt if I can’t get the yield much higher.
@@PatrickShivers We have a very wet spring here, everything is a month behind. Doesn't grow really well and in some areas they haven't been able to sow and plant yet.
Hello, Patrick! Interesting confrontation! Eager to watch the final results...
Howdy Patrick
Happy Independence Day
Is the Dekalb RIB hybrid? That's a 20% refuge, so you would have to pick 100 ears to get a close estimate of efficacy. In my area, the 20% RIB is all you can get in the BT earworm variety. I'm not criticizing, just an observation. You are making an excellent point. Can't wait for the yield monitor results. Taller corn is better, especially for silage volume, because it can absorb more sunlight. Shorter corn can stand more "weather" such as windstorms. 👍👍
I’m worrying about the wind, that Hybrid 85 is extra tall.
Very interesting. Great video brother. God bless!
Thanks. Great video. Please can you discuss how to distinguish between organic and GMO corns when no label is available.
@@nnekaonwuachi-iheagwara2875 without a label there is no way. GMO, non-GMO, and organic have no visual distinctions from one another other than organic and non-gmo will both have more bug damage on them and are more likely to have mold issues.
@@PatrickShivers Thanks. I asked because I can see a future where dishonest persons can peddle GMO as organic. Thanks once again .
Thanks
I have herd of a few farmers have problems with the BT technology not working
We growed some white Appalachian field Corn this year and some fields are already at 12 feet tall.
That’s some tall corn
@@PatrickShivers tallest I've ever grown
Very interesting results. One question I didn't ask yesterday, was if the non-gmo corn will sell at a different price? Seems like the market has a premium on non-gmo produce.
I have been negotiating that with some buyers. It isn’t contracted yet, but there is a possibility of a premium.
I got roughly 20 pounds of a dekalb variety from a friend of mine and planted about 2 acres I sprayed it with roundup and it killed some of it and some it didn’t.
I switched to non gmo corn a few years ago mainly because of cheaper seed cost but also because the BT technology is failing.
Yep
Hello Patrick good morning great vidéo
So much for GMO Patrick 😢
Hopefully you can get back 50% of your seed money back
Did you think about the cross pollination making the non gmo genetically modified?
I wouldn’t eat anything within 25-30 feet from that gmo corn.
Cool test tho and showing truth about their “technology”!
I did. I don’t think cross pollination occurred as there is a hard line distinction in height and worm population. If they cross pollinated you would expect a gradual blending of traits where they meet.
@@PatrickShivers not till you get to the seeds and then plant them then the cross pollination would show it’s ugly head.. it’s in the seed first..
@@microsoilenhancersinspirey5750 it’ll all be chicken feed by then.
@@PatrickShivers it will I agree..
But if it’s in the seed and you are eating the seeds how are you not putting genetic modifications in your body and your families body?
@@microsoilenhancersinspirey5750 if you have consumed any corn or soybean product (Doritos for an example or vegetarian meat such as the “impossible whopper”) in the last 30 years then you’ve consumed GMO. There is no human in the US that hasn’t consumed a lot of GMO products. I personally don’t believe there is any health risk, as most of the developed world has been consuming these goods for over 30 years and the direct link to an illness has not yet been made. With the introduction of Dicamba we no longer need the Roundup Ready gene in corn or soybeans, and the BT gene is obviously failing. Thus meaning GMO is no longer needed in corn and soybeans. It is also used in cotton and is still useful there.
Hey Patrick, is there any cross pollination concerns with the two different varieties being side by side?
No. At the row where they meet there is a sharp 18” difference in height and worm pressure immediately changes from moderate to 0. If they had cross pollinated the rows where they met would have shared some traits, meaning the height difference wouldn’t be as pronounced and the worm contamination/resistance would have been intermingled. Most of the corn (of both varieties) is going to the same place at harvest time also
It's been a dry year for our corn. Small ears of Silver Queen. Is the GMO corn as sweet as other varieties?
This isn’t sweet corn it’s field corn.
I think Ardent is a GMO Sweet Corn variety, similar to Silver Queen.
@@MorganOtt-ne1qj I have planted some GMO sweet corn before, a few thousand acres of it is grown about 30 miles south of me. It was $600 for a very small bag I could carry in one hand.
The non gmo looks pretty clean did you cultivate or use a good pre emerge
Atrazine over the top
@@PatrickShiverswe used a tank mix of Princep and Atrex for years for a combo punch on grass and broadleaf.
Only pulled a cultivator through it once at lay by.
We tried our best to eliminate the cultivator altogether, because a row crop cultivator is the worst thing in the world to scatter nutgrass and johnsongrass all over a field.
If we have to go back to the cultivator, I'm afraid 30 years of hard work on nutgrass control will go out the window.
@@MarshallLanier the best thing for nutgrass is growing peanuts (spraying Cadre).
@@PatrickShivers We've had pretty good results from Cadre, so I can't argue that point
Idk man.
Is yalls corn really $5 right now? It’s 3.98 in western kentucky..
@@microsoilenhancersinspirey5750 $5.17 the day I recorded that video, it’s $4.88 this minute. According to the banks the break even on corn here is producing 200 bushels per acre at a contract price of $5
@@PatrickShivers y’all must be getting a premium down there..
That awesome for y’all!
Congratulations!.
@@microsoilenhancersinspirey5750 supply and demand. There is far less corn acres here. This is peanut and cotton country, but the chicken industry is huge here. Chickens don’t eat peanuts and cotton. Corn is hauled in from out west on trains b/c we can’t grow enough of it here to feed all the chickens. When corn gets up above $6 local then the acres increases. Peanut target is $600 a ton with 2.5-3 ton per acre yield. Cotton is currently below break even (as is corn @ $4.88)
@@PatrickShivers I looked at a farm in Alabama that had a standing 50 cent premium because of the chickens to corn ratio also..
Wonder why they build all them chicken houses where the food is scarce?
Looks like you are growing good corn..
But diversity is what keeps a farm going..
And you seem to be diverse..
@@microsoilenhancersinspirey5750 built the chicken houses where the chicken eaters are. It’s cheaper to haul corn than refrigerated meat.
Nobody eats field corn it has no taste
*Most people I know eat field corn, about 1/4 of them don’t like sweet corn
Northwest Florida here. Most people like the sweet corn, but some prefer field corn too. There’s def a market for field corn as well.
We grow both here and yes we eat both as well. I like to cream my non gmo corn and put up.
human interference in nature is dangerous
That GMO corn must taste better to the worms.
Seed rep said possibly hybrid 85 shucks are tighter wrapped preventing entry
Just because it’s gmo doesn’t mean it’s glyphosate tolerant. And the just because it’s bt corn doesn’t mean it won’t have ear worms it means it won’t have corn bore. Ear worm protection comes from double pro or tricepta. But still the ear worms have to eat some to die. Plus there is refuge corn in the gmo so there is some corn in your dekalb that isn’t by.
@@ezzybig the refuge seed in the Dekalb isn’t 50%, which is what we’re finding all across the field. While yes, they do have to eat some to die, they shouldn’t be fully matured worms (as in this video). The BT gene typically kills them on day 1 or 2. I was a cotton scout for 10 years. I’ve seen the BT technology fail on this level only 1 other time. It was in cotton as the tech in the delta pine 555 was reaching the end of it’s efficacy.
What if I want to buy non gmo corn is that even possible?
@@garyhart9250 yes. It’s all harvested and in storage now. If you are wanting fresh ears for eating you’re about 2.5 months late.
Amazing! I knew you'd be happy with hybrid85. Up here in WI been having excellent luck and yield. Especially with drought last yr. Will never go back to the big name seed. No issues with weeds, bugs, worms or grass. CapenoGt and Primero worked for me for herbicide.
I sprayed some atrazine over the top