I have SxS 16 ga that was my fathers. I can't fire steel shot in it due to the chokes being full and modified. I shoot Bismuth in it but I do miss the old days of lead, showing my age I guess.
I am the same boat with my 16 gauge. I love that old sxs. I mostly shoot #4 bismuth, but when and where I can use lead, the 1 1/8th oz #5 load is magic for pheasants and partridges.
Precision is my preferred place to get supplies. They don't carry the PT1680 or the new BP1680 those are from BPI. I wish they did carry them. They do have the B&P 16 gauge steel wads but I haven't gotten any of them to test yet. Thanks for watching.
What was load number for this load i havent seen it an any of the new manuals but this load is great and pattern so well in my browning belgium sweet six
Load # 60123-1099L It is in the 15th edition Status of Steel. I believe it is a discontinued load since the PT1680 is no longer being produced. The new BP1680 looks the same but takes different data they say. You'll have to contact Ballistic Products to see if they have new data for the new version of the wad.
I’m NOT a Shotshell reloader YET. I do handload Rifle and Pistol ammo. But my question is, what would happen if you did NOT cup petals on the wad? Is this a MUST or a recommendation and why if so?
I never have shot a wad that didn’t have the petals cut in them. BPI says it will leave the barrel like a slug. I do know if I cut the petals more shallow, and fewer of them, that my patterns tighten up.
@@okshotgun A tighter more consistent pattern might not be a bad thing. Especially if you use a more open choke like an IC / or Skeet choke on close decoying Ducks or shooting WoodDucks in the Timber. Could you do a Pattern testing video so we could see the difference between the two???
Ballistic Products Load #50204-621R Cheddite Hull, Cheddite 209, Alliant Steel 27.5 grains, PT1680 wad, with 10 grains of Mix#47 Buffer. This is Ballistic Products Data so I do not claim any liability for it. I have shot it and it does work well.
@@okshotgunWhich manual do you have? I have Status of Steel 21st. Only load in 16 gauge that it shows for Alliant Steel and the BP1680 wad is 7/8 oz over 25.5gr Alliant Steel for 1397fps at 11,000 psi. Not many loads for the bp1680, but lots for the csd16 wad that I don't have. According to this manual, that csd16 wad with lil gun will push that same 7/8 oz to north of 1600fps
@@michaelscafe2818 I have the 15th edition and the 19th edition. I also have the BPI 16 gauge manual, but I am not sure which edition. I will find out and post it here. The data I shared is for the PT1680 wad. Once I use up all of the PT1680 wads I have in my stock I will have to replace them with the BP1680. The load going 1397fps doesn't sound like a bad load. I would pattern-test it and see what it looks like. My 16's really like #5 steel all the way down to #3 steel. To me the pellet count gets pretty low with #2 and bigger. If it chokes good though it should be alright. As far as the CSD16 I do not have any experience with that wad. I know that Dave in AZ has a good blog about the differences in the wads. pipesf16.wordpress.com/16-ga-steel-shot-fit-test-pt1680-vs-csd16-in-cheddite-hull/
www.ballisticproducts.com/MEC-Spacer-for-Lg-Capacity-Hulls-8111/productinfo/1308111/ Ballistic Products has it. I was unable to find it on MEC’s website.
I do plan on making the pattern video. I am currently enrolled in SDI and about half way through the Associates course. We are also in the middle of building a new church building in a new location. My time has been very limited to do videos, hunt, and shooting. It will come soon, I am hoping for the spring.
@@okshotgun that’s excellent man. I enjoy your content and your teaching ability. I learned a lot. I’m looking forward to it. Thanks again and Godspeed
Love the reloading videos. Thank you
Very well done. Looking forward to videos with other gauges.
I have SxS 16 ga that was my fathers. I can't fire steel shot in it due to the chokes being full and modified. I shoot Bismuth in it but I do miss the old days of lead, showing my age I guess.
I am the same boat with my 16 gauge. I love that old sxs. I mostly shoot #4 bismuth, but when and where I can use lead, the 1 1/8th oz #5 load is magic for pheasants and partridges.
@@traviscochran6280 I agree.
Good stuff
Thanks
Good video
Good video! That will be great in my newer A-5 Sweet Sixteen Browning (2016). Thanks alot!
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Precision Reloading in Mitchell SD sells the same wad I believe already slit. Check em out
Precision is my preferred place to get supplies. They don't carry the PT1680 or the new BP1680 those are from BPI. I wish they did carry them. They do have the B&P 16 gauge steel wads but I haven't gotten any of them to test yet. Thanks for watching.
What was load number for this load i havent seen it an any of the new manuals but this load is great and pattern so well in my browning belgium sweet six
Load # 60123-1099L It is in the 15th edition Status of Steel. I believe it is a discontinued load since the PT1680 is no longer being produced. The new BP1680 looks the same but takes different data they say. You'll have to contact Ballistic Products to see if they have new data for the new version of the wad.
I’m NOT a Shotshell reloader YET. I do handload Rifle and Pistol ammo. But my question is, what would happen if you did NOT cup petals on the wad? Is this a MUST or a recommendation and why if so?
I never have shot a wad that didn’t have the petals cut in them. BPI says it will leave the barrel like a slug. I do know if I cut the petals more shallow, and fewer of them, that my patterns tighten up.
@@okshotgun A tighter more consistent pattern might not be a bad thing. Especially if you use a more open choke like an IC / or Skeet choke on close decoying Ducks or shooting WoodDucks in the Timber. Could you do a Pattern testing video so we could see the difference between the two???
What's that between your powder bottle and the charge bar?
That is a powder baffle. You can get them from Ballistic Products, Cabelas, Bass Pro etc. It keeps the powder flowing smooth for consistent charges.
Maybe give some tips for reloading 16 gauge for geese?
Use bismuth or something heavier than steel. Also a company called Nice Shot makes a specialty heavy nontoxic in large sizes.
What is your recipe for a 7/8oz 16 gauge load at 1550 fps
Ballistic Products Load #50204-621R
Cheddite Hull, Cheddite 209, Alliant Steel 27.5 grains, PT1680 wad, with 10 grains of Mix#47 Buffer.
This is Ballistic Products Data so I do not claim any liability for it. I have shot it and it does work well.
@@okshotgunWhich manual do you have? I have Status of Steel 21st. Only load in 16 gauge that it shows for Alliant Steel and the BP1680 wad is 7/8 oz over 25.5gr Alliant Steel for 1397fps at 11,000 psi. Not many loads for the bp1680, but lots for the csd16 wad that I don't have. According to this manual, that csd16 wad with lil gun will push that same 7/8 oz to north of 1600fps
@@michaelscafe2818 I have the 15th edition and the 19th edition. I also have the BPI 16 gauge manual, but I am not sure which edition. I will find out and post it here. The data I shared is for the PT1680 wad. Once I use up all of the PT1680 wads I have in my stock I will have to replace them with the BP1680. The load going 1397fps doesn't sound like a bad load. I would pattern-test it and see what it looks like. My 16's really like #5 steel all the way down to #3 steel. To me the pellet count gets pretty low with #2 and bigger. If it chokes good though it should be alright. As far as the CSD16 I do not have any experience with that wad. I know that Dave in AZ has a good blog about the differences in the wads. pipesf16.wordpress.com/16-ga-steel-shot-fit-test-pt1680-vs-csd16-in-cheddite-hull/
Here is another good write-up for 16-gauge wads.
pipesf16.wordpress.com/16-ga-wads/
What's the part number for the Mec ringed priming cup?
www.ballisticproducts.com/MEC-Spacer-for-Lg-Capacity-Hulls-8111/productinfo/1308111/
Ballistic Products has it. I was unable to find it on MEC’s website.
@@okshotgun Thank you
Can you make a pattern video?
I do plan on making the pattern video. I am currently enrolled in SDI and about half way through the Associates course. We are also in the middle of building a new church building in a new location. My time has been very limited to do videos, hunt, and shooting. It will come soon, I am hoping for the spring.
@@okshotgun that’s excellent man. I enjoy your content and your teaching ability. I learned a lot. I’m looking forward to it. Thanks again and Godspeed