As Cap, any projectile from the enemy team that hits your shield when it's up, becomes your team. You can bait the healers into shooting you and have them heal you, it's a super important thing to keep in mind (dagger's well daggers, rocket's orb, etc.)
@@FilipeLeviSilva also there is a tech with cap you can atack alot faster with left click canceled with sprint. by a lot. no hulk lvl but resonable to win duels. I think JapaniseCurry have short about that
Really great is bouncing back CC abilities. You can make Mantis sleep herself or her own team, same with Squirrel Girl's stun ability. Just bounces right back to them.
As a cap main, it hurts to hear that my supports don't want me, but I'm sure the enemy supports want me even less, and we exist to cause annoyance to everyone so It's fine.
Had a game last night where I caused Hela to off herself with her own daggers twice. Game ended with me being chased in side rooms by Hela, both supports, and Thor while their other two teammates actually tried to capture the obj. Cap doesn't win by killing, he wins by taking way more attention than he is worth. Really helps you learn where every healing pack in the game is, too.
As cloak & dagger main an enemy cap is probably towards the bottom of the list of characters I worry about because his damage is so pitifully low that I can just put a bubble on myself and not worry about him literally being on top of me same with Spider-Man as well, but thor and hulk on the other hand 😅
I relate so hard to not realizing everyone died lol. You might mention already in the vid but just in case you didnt, there is a setting in the menu that enables a sound when your teammates are KO'd that helps a lot with noticing
Also for cap don’t use the shield bash to do dmg, use it for movement. Also on cap never let go of shift and tap the attack button unless you are trying to kill someone at range.
There is a Hulk specific setting called "Hold to Activate Incredible Leap" and toggle it off. Basically you do not need to hold spacebar at all times. All you need to do is tap it to start the charge and you can do it immediately as you land from your last jump. You can still hop-jump as normal, but you now double tap your jump key instead, which I feel most people do just naturally.
cap is like fully a dive tank so you are meant to distract and harass the backline supports, he's never really meant to fight the enemy tank unless their tank fucks up and overextends, in contrast magneto is an anchor tank who's meant purely for soaking damage and shielding his team while pushing forward, that's why your cap was doing so badly against him, there aren't many worse matchups for you to take one vs one
Honestly DPS is the most boring role to me, there's no depth like there is with Support/Vanguard. When a DPS dies no one bats an eye, when Sup/Van does everyone loses their minds
Here’s every tank from my understanding Small edit: If I forgot to mention something about a tank, just put it in the replies and I’ll probably add it if it’s specific to one tank Hulk: Semi dive-Jump in and out of your back line to put pressure on the enemy team, and once you’ve distracted their Strategists, go back and help your Strategists if their being attacked, or apply pressure to the enemy’s frontline (assuming you have two tanks). Use your ult to survive and knock away anybody (mostly tanks) from mission area. Note that your slam does barely any damage and you should only use it to extend your ult timer. Strange: Defensive and offensive- Protect your back line when needed and apply pressure to the enemy frontline (assuming you have another tank). Use your shield to block projectiles and massive team killing ults, like Wanda, Iron Man, Magnet, or even another Strange. Use your ult when you see the enemy teams strategists. Magnet: Defensive and Offensive (thank you to LaztheLax for the corrections)- Place your shields on yourself when you’re at the frontline, otherwise use your others to prefect valuable characters like Strategists and tanks, along with ults like Wanda or Magik. Use your ult to absorb projectiles like Iron Man ult, Pun ult, or just any other projectile. Use Mag cannon to knock tanks and aggressive dps like Wolverine away. Use your bubbles to gain mag cannon, Mag’s auto can do high amounts of damage (specifically 70 according to the previously mentioned) and his Mag Cannon-auto combo can almost one shot squishies. Peni: Fully defensive, place her nests behind indestructible walls and web aggressive DPS/ tanks in your back line or web aggressive DPS/ tanks who are head on. Place her mines in webs to knock characters out of their ults Thor: Disruptor (thank you to Neolroy, lapotato9140, and bon-btw for the corrections)- Use his hammer push to knock out Strategists or Tanks out of position, you have the ability to 1v1 tanks, use your awakening rune to gain distance and long range capabilities. Combo his hammer throw with basic attacks and to finish enemies who are on low health that may be getting away. Use his lightning confinement only when necessary. Groot: Offensive and defensive- His ult has high combo potential. Use his thorn walls to break off LoS sith their support and take out their tanks with your team, use your iron wall to gain over shield and to block damage Cap: Fully dive- Weave in and out of their back line and harass the support, use your shield push as movement rather than a damage dealer. Constantly use your sprint unless you want to jump and deflect a projectile ult with his shield. Use your ult to keep yourself and other teammates alive. Venom: Dive/ Distraction- Similar to Hulk, jump in and out of the enemy’s back line and once you’ve taken enough damage, use your symbiotic resilience and then swing if you have the cool down ready, gain heals, repeat. Also your grab attack explodes after a little if the people inside haven’t escaped, USE IT.
Personally I feel like hulk could use a buff when it comes to his movement, he's a diver but unlike cap or venom his jump isn't great when you gotta close a small distance, you either constantly charge it and end up jumping over targets or you get knockbacked out of it and stunlocked to death
Thor's hammer throw can be used to finish people who are at low health or flying trying to escape. And can cancel M1's so M1 > Throw > M1, being way faster and charging the hammer/rune again dealing a good chucnk of damage. He's a brawler
Doctor Strange _is_ probably the easiest tank to play, but execution with him is key. Strange's kit excels at picking off squishies in the middle of a teamfight. The shotgun-like primary and extended range of the whip combined with the damage of a full-charge burst can easily pick off a support that's trying to play on the objective. Having a good read on a situation is extremely important to good decision-maiking. You can either weave melee strikes between your shots or shield between them, and you need to know exactly when to be doing what. The shield should be used when you're just trying to poke at enemies from mid-range or let your team advance to better ground. At close range, you should be using the melee to apply extra pressure to enemies and build burst charge faster. At 8:08 you were trying to shield Thor's melee attacks (the shield doesn't block melee unless you count Groot and Reed) when you should've been shooting/whipping him to force a retreat. The shield can also be used to block healing to an enemy that's engaged with your team, e.g. a Hulk or Venom getting chewed on by your dps. It's not always the right decision, but it can occasionally secure a kill where their supports might've otherwise saved them. This is all advice from a GM III Strange with more than 30 hours on the character.
dude i've been asking the same question as Dr. Strange for so long and have been confused why it feels like no one ever shoots the people when I ult. This was very useful info
As a Cap main, he's extremely fun and underrated. Hoping he gets a damage buff tho, or at least a buff to his team up cuz cap and thor play great together.
@@giosbizarreart9048 Cap is a fly that can come in and out of your backline at will. He does this perfectly fine. If you're so adamant on him needing a buff, do you even play him?
Captain America is so fun. He’s so fast and you can just go almost wherever you damn well feel like. He doesn’t put up numbers but he’s able to either rush up the main route before anyone else or sprint down a flank route. When you get really good at him the enemy team just has to believe that you’re alive and can jump them at any moment. Or you just have a crazy Captain America who stands on the point and declares “you can take this point from my cold dead hands.” And when you do kill me. I’m right back in your walls and on your points in record time.
As a brand new strange main trying to climb, playing cover and with your team will let you live longer than popping shield in front of more than 2 people. Only use shield to save someone or to back up which you can pop in and out and I think it should keep it up longer. Ult should be to deny another one if they have someone that will absolutely kill you and everyone else or to get picks on squishes with your teammates and maybe a tank if your lucky. Melee and shooting is good and should do it always as it builds charge. Explosion can also force people to back up or as a finisher which is useful but wouldn’t recommend finishing them if you will be out of sight for longer than you need to be. Portals are good to surprise the enemy with a flank or to provide your team with new opportunities to attack or even hold point as I managed to touch once my team were getting back to point and it helped win the game even though I got blown up. Oh and cape is good to help reposition but I wouldn’t recommend staying in the air for a long time as you’d become a sitting duck and can’t cover your team. This might vary in your rank and by your team but considering I’ve averaged 20 kills and win 5/6 games to try climbing to plat thought I’d share anyway (currently gold 1 hoping to get to plat 2 or higher if I can do it) Have a good day y’all ^^
When your playing strange try and keep your shield at around half health and just tank with your health pool so if a high damage ult comes through you can block it, there have been to many situations where I've been team wiped by a iron man ult cuz my shield was on cooldown
I've been spamming venom after playing against a good one. Its INSANE how disruptive he can be. Its INSANE how you can burst a group of squishies if they dont react fast enough. Its INSANE doing like 15k damage blocking 30k damage and dying like twice. Plus learning that your mindset should be "I see team I jump in middle of team I hit, shield and then I leave" is just fun. When you get your ult sticking around extra long is extra fun. Swinging away, seeing your E is up and jumping right back in the middle of them is just SO fun.
solo tanking as cap forces you to play with your team a lot more, generally just jumping forward and engaging the other tank and dashing back to supports when low, if a squishie steps out of place hound them down, forcing supports to make a decision between maintaining the tanks or saving the damage / support. after that its up to the dps to burst down the tank while supports are distracted.
Great video would love to hear more about what your idea of them is at the start and then like where you feel they’re more effective if you continue with the vanguards
Seeing my team’s CD and Mantis wait behind a corner for the team to respond and me as Thor lumbering by as they fall in behind me alonowing I AM the line and I choose the engagements feels very empowering and not boring at all.
heyloo! watching a new tank player is funny, its funny that you are better than most 90% of all dps who switch to vanguard cus they want a 2-2-2 comp. This mindset is the best way to have fun and enjoy the game, I wish you best of luck in learning tanks. In terms of space, especially on strange is to play corners for cover, just because you have your own wall, doesnt mean its as good as something indestructible. I pay attention to the little sound healing makes and use that as a way to tell: am I peeking my healers? are my healers dead? can i keep pushing? etc. This is what ive instinctually learnt from playing well over 800h of tanks (overwatch and marvel rivals). and if there is anything that you need to know, is when/how to be aggressive. I really enjoy how you arent a tank that stands still in the back waiting for dps to get 4 picks, play as aggressive as you can, and then you can learn to play more passive. Oh one thing specifically about strange is bunny hopping, jump and then shield in the air, this allows for you to split damage between you and your shield, and to move faster, your hp can be healed, your shield does not.
oh ALSO also on strange is that his E hits both the enemy and their soul, so you do extra damage (it used to be double but that was too broken, it now falls off in damage)
@@Leftistmushroom and how fun, pray tell, are they when the rest of the team cant make a single inch of space for them to perform because there were already 3 other duelists before the person in question's goofy ass decided to also pick one?
@lapotato9140 Look I don't do it personally but I get the mentality behind it not everyone is trying to constantly win some people have a favorite and it's probably a duelist they're the most fun class for a lot of people it is what it is
I love this so much. It's always disappointing to see dps/supports hating on tanks because they don't understand how they each work differently. I main Penny, but I also play a LOT of support, so I'm looking forward to part 2! Congrats on a successful first video 👌✨️
Cap is a character with very hidden potential. When you start playing him, you can't die at all, but you can't do kills either. But when you learn him, which most people don't do, he is broken with diving into everything and winning. Also, you should try Peni. As a Peni main myself with like 40 hours on her if not more I can tell you she is very uniqie, you can describe her as vanguard who plays like strategist "I am not saying healer but you can heal yourself too" who deals dps.
I’m just hoping more Peni’s start playing with their team. I’ve had a few even in higher ranks who as a strategist I had NEVER seen. Like where tf are you
Peni is such a fun tank to play as. I'm a strategist main and when we need a tank i mostly pick Peni, it's hilarious to see divers and flankers struggle with her traps trying to get to me or my healers lol
Maining Vanguards has taught me something very quickly. A lot of people think the main role of tanks in hero shooters is to be giant bullet sponges that serve as a meatshield for your team due to them having the highest hp. When, in reality that is only a part of it. The main role of a tank is to force the enemy team to reposition or focus on one target, while your team positions themselves to work around your distraction and take out important targets. And tanks do that on different ways, Cap and Hulk are divers while Strange is a brawler. Divers usually create space by jumping in the enemy backline and harassing their healers and forcing them to choose between ignoring the divers and possibly have their sustain crippled with less heals, or be forced to drop aggression on the frontline to help in the backline. For Cap, he has two great escape toolfs, those being his shield bash and his ground slam, i recommend always saving one of those when you decide to jump the enemy team's backline as a safety measure if you ever need to bail out, otherwise, you will get stuck with no cooldowns and panicking because you're half hp and walking backwards with your shield into the enemy's frontline For Hulk, you can always jump the enemy and harass them, if you have a bubble off cooldown i would say keep slapping them until you are around 300 hp, then use your bubble and fall back to your backline so your healers can patch you up and you can jump right in to the ring again, keeping constang pressure. With Strange, he is a brawler, so you need to be close to your team, while also using his shield to push in and force the enemy to back down, his shield doesn't have a cooldown and is instantaneous, so a good trick is to shoot the enemy and then immediately pressing the shield button in-between the cooldown between Dr. Strange's primary fire. You can also cancel his reload animation by opening your shield or doing a melee attack when the reload is around 70% complete, this will leave you with a reloaded primary fire and saved time. His portals are also a big part of his kit and there is a lot of tech to learn with it. With them, you can lock people inside of spawn for 20 seconds, catapult yourself or an ally to ult without them having time to react, counter an enemy Strange's portal by placing an exact one in front of theirs and making his teammates jump off a cliff. Dr. Strange has both the smallest skill floor and the highest skill ceiling of the vanguards in the game
bro that bit on how tank is the most signifcant role on a team comp is literally why I play it. As a dps, if I dont have space to work with I'm cooked, as a support, if I'm left alone and nobody is peeling for me, Im cooked. As a tank tho, I get to control the pace of the game, I get to decide how the fight flows. It gives me a feeling of control and almightyness that's unmatched. (And yeah of course I play Hulk lol what other tank allows me to be fucking everywhere at all times) ps: my best tip for the character is to always be charging your jump. for real. your thumb has to be glued to the spacebar. If you're not charging a jump with hulk, you're either in the middle of a jump, or doing something wrong lol
When you are tanking for your team: ZA WALLDO When you are soloing the entire world: ZA WARUDOOO When the other team is wiped out exepct for one slippery bastard that you couldn't even spot in the background of the last team fight, and his name is WALDO
For cap, just hold shift 247. Use one dash to go in and one to go out. Also when your have passive active, hold your attack button (while also holding shift) to send the shield out and let go to recall it early. This lets you attack slightly faster in close range. But dont tap it because the shield comes back too soon, even in melee range. After you drop your shield, melee once because it makes the cooldown start a tiny bit faster. When your get really good, dash to an ulting ironman and reflect it back onto them. Massive play potential.
Nice. I play mostly hulk and I’ve learned some things. Noticed you really have to zip your screen around for captain america, so I might start playing him more to try to get used to that since I want to start playing starlord whenever I get a chance for dps. Look forward to more
I have a clip of a captain america chasing me as thor and he was just punching my back for like 30 seconds and doing nothing as I jumped from pack to pack.
As a tank main, my biggest problem is being so much better than the rest of my team that I wind up alive, alone, and holding the objective. I do have a mind on the angles, but it's hard to predict peoples' bad choices on the angles they take.
I got some great laughs at the self awareness, but I genuinely respect it. More people should think like this instead of assuming they are right and everyone else is wrong. I'm fully aware I can improve as a player as well.
5:53 Yep that's tank tunnel vision for ya. Shielders tend to have it the worst tbh, as you're focusing on stopping a lotta damage from the people in front of you.
I like Vanguard because i feel i have more ability to change the battle when the rest of my team aint doing so great. I got tired of teammates not taking initiative
Cap does decent damage but you're highlighting times when people were getting healed, doing no damage lol. The more I play cap the more I feel like I'm just playing a dps in the vanguard slot. Learning when your shield throw melee attacks come up is huge though, you can kill fliers with it pretty easy. One of my cap play of the games was me just running down 5 dps/strategists thinking "I'll ult when im in danger" and ended out just running them all down never ulting. Held my cooldowns so I literally just ran and punched them all to death. It was HILARIOUS.
good job on the sucesfull clickbait XD but for realzies i do like seeing you actualy review your games and your coments on what you do wrong and stuff, not a lot of vids show the holistic process of improvement. I'd love to see how u aproach strategits since you mentioned maining them, and that's usualy my role as well
On strange build your e up before ulting because it’s primarily where his damage comes from, also a good idea to reload beforehand, most importantly though play more hard cover, you spend too much time out in the middle of the open and get caught out, your shield is a resource that you should use with intention, and the more you play cover the more you can shoot, the faster you build ult… if you watch higher rated players or even the game you won you’ll notice they use cover a lot more than you were in the games you lost
im a tank main and i love it. in diamond right now as a mostly tank sometimes flex to support. the only thing that makes it un fun is when im solo tank (everygame) and the enemy team has a wolverine that has it out for me and no one will help with him. (every 1 in 6 games)
I know if I ever get a full group to play sometime I really wanna try cap america + thor + shield tank + any dps(maybe storm but may be 2 low of damage) + 2 dps healers. Pretty well your trading out the 2 dive dps for dive tanks that can cause more chaos while your other team mates fire on em for free
On Strange you gotta auto a lot and use split second shields. Also use it to block enemy heals. If someone is in your face use melee and press E only when its fully charged to one shot people
I am a peni main because vanguard is a pretty rare role and solo tank us the norm rather then the exception unfortunately I dont dive, but frankly solo tank dives are miserable because some duelist or enemy vanguard ALWAYS dives my squishies. And then you fall apart because your healing evaporated Being able to use webs to force enemies off my squishies makes the games more consistent
For heroes like Hulk and Venom, your role is to be a problem. You get into the enemy's backline and force their attention on you by attacking the healers. You don't even need to kill them as long as your distraction lets the team push up, but then you need to be able to get out and back to your healer when you're low using the jumps and the swing
11:25 the reason you're not doing any damage is because you keep switching targets lol. Stick on one. A squishy. Land 2 melees and then your left click is +5 damage, ranged, ricocheting projectile for a few attacks. In many of these clips, you are switching targets too frequently. Pick a good squishy target and try to stick on them.
Cap and Thor are both "distraction carnifexes" in my eyes. THey both exist to draw as much attention from the enemy backline and open up space for your damage dealers.
"Rewatch the game from your healer's PoV" is genuinely something every single player needs to do.
that is hands down the best advice I've ever heard.
Makes me cringe everytime how bad they are
@@Timayy yeah that's the only issue, it can feel terrible to see your supports play.
@Timayy No way you're saying that with a 1 11 video of you playing moon knight, the lowest skill hero in the game stfu
@@Timayyyou got outplayed by your healers in your own video lmao
@@oi-c9795lulzz😅😅😅😅
Hulks jump is his most important ability
For base Hulk, debatably. But in Hero Hulk, that projectile damage is absurd
Jumping in 1v6 ❌️
Dropping in 1v6 ✅️
@@pinnacleexpress420 Wait, which one are you actually referring to? Default Hulk is Hero Hulk, Ult Hulk is Monster Hulk.
Hit whole kit is really good. I have saved my team from so many ults with his bubble shield
@@LordVader1094 fuk. i meant w for wumbo not m for mini
As Cap, any projectile from the enemy team that hits your shield when it's up, becomes your team. You can bait the healers into shooting you and have them heal you, it's a super important thing to keep in mind (dagger's well daggers, rocket's orb, etc.)
This is an amazing tip. I had no idea
@@FilipeLeviSilva also there is a tech with cap you can atack alot faster with left click canceled with sprint. by a lot. no hulk lvl but resonable to win duels. I think JapaniseCurry have short about that
Really great is bouncing back CC abilities. You can make Mantis sleep herself or her own team, same with Squirrel Girl's stun ability. Just bounces right back to them.
@@Tandurin123 animation cancelling goes way too far 🤣
@@marszels6758 it isn't THAT much faster, fractions it a second from what I can tell, and it makes playing him more cringe
respect for actually reviewing your own gameplay. so many ppl don't realize how helpful it is
As a cap main, it hurts to hear that my supports don't want me, but I'm sure the enemy supports want me even less, and we exist to cause annoyance to everyone so It's fine.
Had a game last night where I caused Hela to off herself with her own daggers twice. Game ended with me being chased in side rooms by Hela, both supports, and Thor while their other two teammates actually tried to capture the obj. Cap doesn't win by killing, he wins by taking way more attention than he is worth. Really helps you learn where every healing pack in the game is, too.
@jacobwhittaker3454 My greatest achievement will always be the time I killed an ironman by deflecting his ult and it landed a direct hit on him
I love having a good cap.
As cloak & dagger main an enemy cap is probably towards the bottom of the list of characters I worry about because his damage is so pitifully low that I can just put a bubble on myself and not worry about him literally being on top of me same with Spider-Man as well, but thor and hulk on the other hand 😅
@@dino_mite8403 I'll gladly get you to use your bubble and the cloak invis then let my team mates do the rest.
I relate so hard to not realizing everyone died lol. You might mention already in the vid but just in case you didnt, there is a setting in the menu that enables a sound when your teammates are KO'd that helps a lot with noticing
Wait really? I have such trouble keeping track of my team so I will look into that
For hulk, never let go of space bar, always charge the jump at all times
Also for cap don’t use the shield bash to do dmg, use it for movement. Also on cap never let go of shift and tap the attack button unless you are trying to kill someone at range.
There is a Hulk specific setting called "Hold to Activate Incredible Leap" and toggle it off. Basically you do not need to hold spacebar at all times. All you need to do is tap it to start the charge and you can do it immediately as you land from your last jump. You can still hop-jump as normal, but you now double tap your jump key instead, which I feel most people do just naturally.
@@96Logan thanks for letting me know ima change my setting now
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cap is like fully a dive tank so you are meant to distract and harass the backline supports, he's never really meant to fight the enemy tank unless their tank fucks up and overextends, in contrast magneto is an anchor tank who's meant purely for soaking damage and shielding his team while pushing forward, that's why your cap was doing so badly against him, there aren't many worse matchups for you to take one vs one
13:53 Goated advice. I will remember this for the rest of my life 🙏🏿
Honestly DPS is the most boring role to me, there's no depth like there is with Support/Vanguard.
When a DPS dies no one bats an eye, when Sup/Van does everyone loses their minds
You die enough as a DPS and everyone will want to switch with you and blame the loss on you lmao
@@liviekumori You either get picks on their backline and become a hero, or you die enough times to see yourself become the villain.
Tank is the only role that is in the thick of the action pretty much the entire time. Pretty fun to me
Fr, when you're being healed you feel pretty much immortal
Here’s every tank from my understanding
Small edit: If I forgot to mention something about a tank, just put it in the replies and I’ll probably add it if it’s specific to one tank
Hulk: Semi dive-Jump in and out of your back line to put pressure on the enemy team, and once you’ve distracted their Strategists, go back and help your Strategists if their being attacked, or apply pressure to the enemy’s frontline (assuming you have two tanks). Use your ult to survive and knock away anybody (mostly tanks) from mission area. Note that your slam does barely any damage and you should only use it to extend your ult timer.
Strange: Defensive and offensive- Protect your back line when needed and apply pressure to the enemy frontline (assuming you have another tank). Use your shield to block projectiles and massive team killing ults, like Wanda, Iron Man, Magnet, or even another Strange. Use your ult when you see the enemy teams strategists.
Magnet: Defensive and Offensive (thank you to LaztheLax for the corrections)- Place your shields on yourself when you’re at the frontline, otherwise use your others to prefect valuable characters like Strategists and tanks, along with ults like Wanda or Magik. Use your ult to absorb projectiles like Iron Man ult, Pun ult, or just any other projectile. Use Mag cannon to knock tanks and aggressive dps like Wolverine away. Use your bubbles to gain mag cannon, Mag’s auto can do high amounts of damage (specifically 70 according to the previously mentioned) and his Mag Cannon-auto combo can almost one shot squishies.
Peni: Fully defensive, place her nests behind indestructible walls and web aggressive DPS/ tanks in your back line or web aggressive DPS/ tanks who are head on. Place her mines in webs to knock characters out of their ults
Thor: Disruptor (thank you to Neolroy, lapotato9140, and bon-btw for the corrections)- Use his hammer push to knock out Strategists or Tanks out of position, you have the ability to 1v1 tanks, use your awakening rune to gain distance and long range capabilities. Combo his hammer throw with basic attacks and to finish enemies who are on low health that may be getting away. Use his lightning confinement only when necessary.
Groot: Offensive and defensive- His ult has high combo potential. Use his thorn walls to break off LoS sith their support and take out their tanks with your team, use your iron wall to gain over shield and to block damage
Cap: Fully dive- Weave in and out of their back line and harass the support, use your shield push as movement rather than a damage dealer. Constantly use your sprint unless you want to jump and deflect a projectile ult with his shield. Use your ult to keep yourself and other teammates alive.
Venom: Dive/ Distraction- Similar to Hulk, jump in and out of the enemy’s back line and once you’ve taken enough damage, use your symbiotic resilience and then swing if you have the cool down ready, gain heals, repeat. Also your grab attack explodes after a little if the people inside haven’t escaped, USE IT.
Personally I feel like hulk could use a buff when it comes to his movement, he's a diver but unlike cap or venom his jump isn't great when you gotta close a small distance, you either constantly charge it and end up jumping over targets or you get knockbacked out of it and stunlocked to death
Thor's hammer throw can be used to finish people who are at low health or flying trying to escape. And can cancel M1's so M1 > Throw > M1, being way faster and charging the hammer/rune again dealing a good chucnk of damage. He's a brawler
@ycyctgyxfif8455skill issue, his shield blocks cc
@@askyrl6179 yeah try doing that while getting targeted by their whole team, 200hp ain't shit when you're being focused to kingdom come
@ycyctgyxfif8455 rank check moment
Tip for when you start Duelists. Start with Mister Fantastic. That Vanguard training will come in real handy
Doctor Strange _is_ probably the easiest tank to play, but execution with him is key.
Strange's kit excels at picking off squishies in the middle of a teamfight. The shotgun-like primary and extended range of the whip combined with the damage of a full-charge burst can easily pick off a support that's trying to play on the objective.
Having a good read on a situation is extremely important to good decision-maiking. You can either weave melee strikes between your shots or shield between them, and you need to know exactly when to be doing what. The shield should be used when you're just trying to poke at enemies from mid-range or let your team advance to better ground.
At close range, you should be using the melee to apply extra pressure to enemies and build burst charge faster. At 8:08 you were trying to shield Thor's melee attacks (the shield doesn't block melee unless you count Groot and Reed) when you should've been shooting/whipping him to force a retreat.
The shield can also be used to block healing to an enemy that's engaged with your team, e.g. a Hulk or Venom getting chewed on by your dps. It's not always the right decision, but it can occasionally secure a kill where their supports might've otherwise saved them.
This is all advice from a GM III Strange with more than 30 hours on the character.
Getting familiar with each role is already above most of diamond. This is good stuff keep it up!
dude i've been asking the same question as Dr. Strange for so long and have been confused why it feels like no one ever shoots the people when I ult. This was very useful info
I didn’t even see the useful info but don’t worry, if you hit a squishy 9/10 times you can kill them and potentially another in the ult if not healed
For a first video this is honestly super good. I'll be waiting for the follow-up vid
As a Cap main, he's extremely fun and underrated. Hoping he gets a damage buff tho, or at least a buff to his team up cuz cap and thor play great together.
There's really no need for him to get buffed, and there's something nice about playing one of the least used heroes.
@@snowmanplayz4467 he needs a buff because he has the worst damage of all the vanguard’s
@@giosbizarreart9048 he's not made to do dmg, he does his job perfectly fine.
@@snowmanplayz4467 none of the vanguards are made to do damage
@@giosbizarreart9048 Cap is a fly that can come in and out of your backline at will. He does this perfectly fine. If you're so adamant on him needing a buff, do you even play him?
Captain America is so fun. He’s so fast and you can just go almost wherever you damn well feel like. He doesn’t put up numbers but he’s able to either rush up the main route before anyone else or sprint down a flank route. When you get really good at him the enemy team just has to believe that you’re alive and can jump them at any moment. Or you just have a crazy Captain America who stands on the point and declares “you can take this point from my cold dead hands.” And when you do kill me. I’m right back in your walls and on your points in record time.
As a brand new strange main trying to climb, playing cover and with your team will let you live longer than popping shield in front of more than 2 people. Only use shield to save someone or to back up which you can pop in and out and I think it should keep it up longer.
Ult should be to deny another one if they have someone that will absolutely kill you and everyone else or to get picks on squishes with your teammates and maybe a tank if your lucky.
Melee and shooting is good and should do it always as it builds charge. Explosion can also force people to back up or as a finisher which is useful but wouldn’t recommend finishing them if you will be out of sight for longer than you need to be.
Portals are good to surprise the enemy with a flank or to provide your team with new opportunities to attack or even hold point as I managed to touch once my team were getting back to point and it helped win the game even though I got blown up.
Oh and cape is good to help reposition but I wouldn’t recommend staying in the air for a long time as you’d become a sitting duck and can’t cover your team.
This might vary in your rank and by your team but considering I’ve averaged 20 kills and win 5/6 games to try climbing to plat thought I’d share anyway (currently gold 1 hoping to get to plat 2 or higher if I can do it)
Have a good day y’all ^^
Being the Distraction Carnifex is amazing. You are the centerpiece of the team. You are the queen of the battlefield and everyone follows your lead!
When your playing strange try and keep your shield at around half health and just tank with your health pool so if a high damage ult comes through you can block it, there have been to many situations where I've been team wiped by a iron man ult cuz my shield was on cooldown
I’m commenting because I want the algorithm to be nice to this. Great video, super good production value and the script was insanely good!
Indeed😮😮😮
I've been spamming venom after playing against a good one.
Its INSANE how disruptive he can be. Its INSANE how you can burst a group of squishies if they dont react fast enough.
Its INSANE doing like 15k damage blocking 30k damage and dying like twice.
Plus learning that your mindset should be "I see team I jump in middle of team I hit, shield and then I leave" is just fun. When you get your ult sticking around extra long is extra fun. Swinging away, seeing your E is up and jumping right back in the middle of them is just SO fun.
Interesting idea for the video. I am looking forward for the next ones!
solo tanking as cap forces you to play with your team a lot more, generally just jumping forward and engaging the other tank and dashing back to supports when low, if a squishie steps out of place hound them down, forcing supports to make a decision between maintaining the tanks or saving the damage / support. after that its up to the dps to burst down the tank while supports are distracted.
Great video would love to hear more about what your idea of them is at the start and then like where you feel they’re more effective if you continue with the vanguards
Seeing my team’s CD and Mantis wait behind a corner for the team to respond and me as Thor lumbering by as they fall in behind me alonowing I AM the line and I choose the engagements feels very empowering and not boring at all.
heyloo! watching a new tank player is funny, its funny that you are better than most 90% of all dps who switch to vanguard cus they want a 2-2-2 comp. This mindset is the best way to have fun and enjoy the game, I wish you best of luck in learning tanks. In terms of space, especially on strange is to play corners for cover, just because you have your own wall, doesnt mean its as good as something indestructible. I pay attention to the little sound healing makes and use that as a way to tell: am I peeking my healers? are my healers dead? can i keep pushing? etc. This is what ive instinctually learnt from playing well over 800h of tanks (overwatch and marvel rivals). and if there is anything that you need to know, is when/how to be aggressive. I really enjoy how you arent a tank that stands still in the back waiting for dps to get 4 picks, play as aggressive as you can, and then you can learn to play more passive. Oh one thing specifically about strange is bunny hopping, jump and then shield in the air, this allows for you to split damage between you and your shield, and to move faster, your hp can be healed, your shield does not.
oh ALSO also on strange is that his E hits both the enemy and their soul, so you do extra damage (it used to be double but that was too broken, it now falls off in damage)
Should note something, for your strange stuff. There's no point trying to block melee, the melee goes through his shield.
Hulk is the most fun I've ever had playing as Vanguard.
Tank is so cathartic when you just absolutely manhandle an enemy team.
The replay system is SUCH a good tool and barely anyone uses it. Mad respect and i hope your channel grows so people get into of your mindset
Very underrated channel!! I hope you get some traction on your channel, this quality deserves it!
“Vanguard is booring”
Says the insta lock deulist:
Yeah ? The duelists are fun that's why they get instalocked
@@Leftistmushroom and how fun, pray tell, are they when the rest of the team cant make a single inch of space for them to perform because there were already 3 other duelists before the person in question's goofy ass decided to also pick one?
@lapotato9140 Look I don't do it personally but I get the mentality behind it not everyone is trying to constantly win some people have a favorite and it's probably a duelist they're the most fun class for a lot of people it is what it is
This a really good value video. It’s great stuff, glad to see your process!
4:47 this Adam player is giving us a bad rep bro😭😭
I love this so much.
It's always disappointing to see dps/supports hating on tanks because they don't understand how they each work differently.
I main Penny, but I also play a LOT of support, so I'm looking forward to part 2!
Congrats on a successful first video 👌✨️
Cap is a character with very hidden potential. When you start playing him, you can't die at all, but you can't do kills either. But when you learn him, which most people don't do, he is broken with diving into everything and winning.
Also, you should try Peni.
As a Peni main myself with like 40 hours on her if not more I can tell you she is very uniqie, you can describe her as vanguard who plays like strategist "I am not saying healer but you can heal yourself too" who deals dps.
I’m just hoping more Peni’s start playing with their team. I’ve had a few even in higher ranks who as a strategist I had NEVER seen. Like where tf are you
Peni is such a fun tank to play as. I'm a strategist main and when we need a tank i mostly pick Peni, it's hilarious to see divers and flankers struggle with her traps trying to get to me or my healers lol
honestly as someone who had a rough time playing hulk the way you showed it from a healers pov helps understand issues I ran into playing vanguard
"HEEEELP! HEELP MEEEE!"
LMAO
Holy crap was that him watching his own game to answer his questions about the defeat? This is a powerful gamer right here.
Cannot imagine having the time to play and understand every character in the game. Lucky enough to even play it with my schedule I'm jealous:(
1:00 4 dps, 2 tanks 🔥🔥🔥
Welcome to the Vanguard mate...
6:15
Also gotta love when the enemy team has a rabid Wolverine who never stops chasing you 😓
lmaaoo this was very well done - especially as the first upload lol
I'd love to see you cover the rest of the vanguards :^)
Spectating from the healer perspective was a great idea, I'm going to do that sometime.
Already excited for the next, your voice + choice of clips is just peak
Maining Vanguards has taught me something very quickly.
A lot of people think the main role of tanks in hero shooters is to be giant bullet sponges that serve as a meatshield for your team due to them having the highest hp. When, in reality that is only a part of it.
The main role of a tank is to force the enemy team to reposition or focus on one target, while your team positions themselves to work around your distraction and take out important targets. And tanks do that on different ways, Cap and Hulk are divers while Strange is a brawler.
Divers usually create space by jumping in the enemy backline and harassing their healers and forcing them to choose between ignoring the divers and possibly have their sustain crippled with less heals, or be forced to drop aggression on the frontline to help in the backline.
For Cap, he has two great escape toolfs, those being his shield bash and his ground slam, i recommend always saving one of those when you decide to jump the enemy team's backline as a safety measure if you ever need to bail out, otherwise, you will get stuck with no cooldowns and panicking because you're half hp and walking backwards with your shield into the enemy's frontline
For Hulk, you can always jump the enemy and harass them, if you have a bubble off cooldown i would say keep slapping them until you are around 300 hp, then use your bubble and fall back to your backline so your healers can patch you up and you can jump right in to the ring again, keeping constang pressure.
With Strange, he is a brawler, so you need to be close to your team, while also using his shield to push in and force the enemy to back down, his shield doesn't have a cooldown and is instantaneous, so a good trick is to shoot the enemy and then immediately pressing the shield button in-between the cooldown between Dr. Strange's primary fire. You can also cancel his reload animation by opening your shield or doing a melee attack when the reload is around 70% complete, this will leave you with a reloaded primary fire and saved time. His portals are also a big part of his kit and there is a lot of tech to learn with it. With them, you can lock people inside of spawn for 20 seconds, catapult yourself or an ally to ult without them having time to react, counter an enemy Strange's portal by placing an exact one in front of theirs and making his teammates jump off a cliff. Dr. Strange has both the smallest skill floor and the highest skill ceiling of the vanguards in the game
Pretty cool video. I'm Venom main. Can't wait to see your take on that
Very real/practical content without toxicity. Also I to love my mom.
Awesome video, get ready to have thousands of subscribers
86 subscribers is crazy. You're my fav rivals creator after watching this.vid
nice vid keep it up. I enjoy the vod reviews
My mans is gonna have an awakening when he plays thor
Bro Groot is a blast, I could do that all day and not get bored
Good video. I havent been good with vanguard. And kinda opt out of it if possible. This has inspired me to try it out again
bro that bit on how tank is the most signifcant role on a team comp is literally why I play it. As a dps, if I dont have space to work with I'm cooked, as a support, if I'm left alone and nobody is peeling for me, Im cooked. As a tank tho, I get to control the pace of the game, I get to decide how the fight flows. It gives me a feeling of control and almightyness that's unmatched. (And yeah of course I play Hulk lol what other tank allows me to be fucking everywhere at all times)
ps: my best tip for the character is to always be charging your jump. for real. your thumb has to be glued to the spacebar. If you're not charging a jump with hulk, you're either in the middle of a jump, or doing something wrong lol
When you are tanking for your team: ZA WALLDO
When you are soloing the entire world: ZA WARUDOOO
When the other team is wiped out exepct for one slippery bastard that you couldn't even spot in the background of the last team fight, and his name is WALDO
thought you were a huge youtuber, quality of the video is fire. new subscriber and good luck on the grind!
Are you planning to do a part two of learning the other tanks? This was really insightful thanks :)
For cap, just hold shift 247. Use one dash to go in and one to go out. Also when your have passive active, hold your attack button (while also holding shift) to send the shield out and let go to recall it early. This lets you attack slightly faster in close range. But dont tap it because the shield comes back too soon, even in melee range. After you drop your shield, melee once because it makes the cooldown start a tiny bit faster.
When your get really good, dash to an ulting ironman and reflect it back onto them. Massive play potential.
I really like her videos man keep them up
This is my brother
Do you play Mirval rivals with him?
Nice. I play mostly hulk and I’ve learned some things. Noticed you really have to zip your screen around for captain america, so I might start playing him more to try to get used to that since I want to start playing starlord whenever I get a chance for dps. Look forward to more
Boring role? Taking damage more than others and still being alive is so satisfying!
But, as a masochist, taking damages is already satisfying.
I really wish Dr. Strange could hold both shield and shoot and free move his POV to see behind, like Reinhardt.
I have a clip of a captain america chasing me as thor and he was just punching my back for like 30 seconds and doing nothing as I jumped from pack to pack.
As a tank main, my biggest problem is being so much better than the rest of my team that I wind up alive, alone, and holding the objective. I do have a mind on the angles, but it's hard to predict peoples' bad choices on the angles they take.
good video, waiting for next one
Tank is so much fun. It’s way to underrated
I got some great laughs at the self awareness, but I genuinely respect it. More people should think like this instead of assuming they are right and everyone else is wrong. I'm fully aware I can improve as a player as well.
I wish you the best when you learn Peter ask someone that plays as him the most in a good with him he is really hard
5:53 Yep that's tank tunnel vision for ya. Shielders tend to have it the worst tbh, as you're focusing on stopping a lotta damage from the people in front of you.
"I just dont do damage"
Good fellow, you're attacking soulbound Luna ulting enemies.
A Thanos snap would still only kill half.
I like Vanguard because i feel i have more ability to change the battle when the rest of my team aint doing so great. I got tired of teammates not taking initiative
Cap does decent damage but you're highlighting times when people were getting healed, doing no damage lol.
The more I play cap the more I feel like I'm just playing a dps in the vanguard slot.
Learning when your shield throw melee attacks come up is huge though, you can kill fliers with it pretty easy.
One of my cap play of the games was me just running down 5 dps/strategists thinking "I'll ult when im in danger" and ended out just running them all down never ulting. Held my cooldowns so I literally just ran and punched them all to death. It was HILARIOUS.
love this series
good job on the sucesfull clickbait XD but for realzies i do like seeing you actualy review your games and your coments on what you do wrong and stuff, not a lot of vids show the holistic process of improvement. I'd love to see how u aproach strategits since you mentioned maining them, and that's usualy my role as well
underrated as hell
Good first video
On strange build your e up before ulting because it’s primarily where his damage comes from, also a good idea to reload beforehand, most importantly though play more hard cover, you spend too much time out in the middle of the open and get caught out, your shield is a resource that you should use with intention, and the more you play cover the more you can shoot, the faster you build ult… if you watch higher rated players or even the game you won you’ll notice they use cover a lot more than you were in the games you lost
great video!!
great video idea
im a tank main and i love it. in diamond right now as a mostly tank sometimes flex to support. the only thing that makes it un fun is when im solo tank (everygame) and the enemy team has a wolverine that has it out for me and no one will help with him. (every 1 in 6 games)
Supports carry a tank, tank carries dps, dps says "healer diff"
I know if I ever get a full group to play sometime I really wanna try cap america + thor + shield tank + any dps(maybe storm but may be 2 low of damage) + 2 dps healers. Pretty well your trading out the 2 dive dps for dive tanks that can cause more chaos while your other team mates fire on em for free
On Strange you gotta auto a lot and use split second shields. Also use it to block enemy heals. If someone is in your face use melee and press E only when its fully charged to one shot people
amazing video
underrated
Vanguard puts you at the front line(or back line with Venom) and right in the heat of everything. How tf could someone find that boring??
6 hours ago I would have said the same thing too then I won back to back with Venom and Dr. Strange
i love my mom
Im honestly lost at how people hate tank so easily, for me the duelist class was feeling lackluster at first
I am a peni main because vanguard is a pretty rare role and solo tank us the norm rather then the exception unfortunately
I dont dive, but frankly solo tank dives are miserable because some duelist or enemy vanguard ALWAYS dives my squishies.
And then you fall apart because your healing evaporated
Being able to use webs to force enemies off my squishies makes the games more consistent
For heroes like Hulk and Venom, your role is to be a problem. You get into the enemy's backline and force their attention on you by attacking the healers. You don't even need to kill them as long as your distraction lets the team push up, but then you need to be able to get out and back to your healer when you're low using the jumps and the swing
11:25 the reason you're not doing any damage is because you keep switching targets lol. Stick on one. A squishy. Land 2 melees and then your left click is +5 damage, ranged, ricocheting projectile for a few attacks. In many of these clips, you are switching targets too frequently. Pick a good squishy target and try to stick on them.
Whoah
I DO love my mom
You definitely need to be melee canceling more with Strange. Always melee or tap shield after primary fire because it will literally up your fire rate
Cap and Thor are both "distraction carnifexes" in my eyes. THey both exist to draw as much attention from the enemy backline and open up space for your damage dealers.