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Dubrovnik is amazing, the moment you step inside the walls it's like being transported into the past and into a fairytale! Yeah, crowds are huge, but I can understand everyone's desire to visit it. Pity you didn't do a wall walk, it offers stunning views, but I guess there was no time for everything. And btw your guide was real eye candy :)
You said correct informations, i will put a few more that are peculiar. Dubrovnik had its trading post(a town) in india, they had big trading navy and fue thousands sailors. Also they were aristocratic republic(no king), similar like Venice, but dubrovnians were croats and spoke croatian language. Also the Dubrovnian republic streched from ston in the west till about todays border with montenegro. Also they had Island of Mljet and and lastovo. They were very rich and fortified its state and paid tributes to have peace. In their western border they made like mini china wall near town of ston(check it on google, its amazing, its 5.5 km long with 40 towers and 5 forts) that strechets from the sea to do mountians, it covers whole their western border. They gained independence in 1358 when Hungarian-Croat kingdoom(we enter in personal union with hungary after our last king died and had no children and his wife was hungarian princess) defetaed venice and retaken control over whole dalmatia, so then Dubrovnik got independenece in 1358. It was flourishing in renesiance till the great earthquqke, after that dubrovnik never regained former wealth and prestige.
Stop telling lies!!! “Dubrovnik”, which is a reference to the Republic of Ragusa, its real name, was an Italian maritime republic founded by Romans who had escaped the medieval invasions of the Slavs and Avars. Ragusa was an ancient Roman city which inherited its language and culture from Rome, and modeled its institutions on Venice. The official language was Italian; the nobility and representatives were Italian; the names were Italian; and the culture itself was Italian. Slavic was initially spoken only by immigrants and refugees who began to pour into Ragusa's territory following the Ottoman conquest of the Balkans in the 15th century; the Ragusan Senate banned their language in 1472 in a desperate attempt to preserve the Italian character of the country. For a millennium Ragusa belonged to the Latin and Italian cultural sphere and had nothing to do with Croatia or the Slavic world.
@@Caleidus You are wright and wrong in the same time. For example in Croatia the official language of Croatian parliament and schooling was latin, Croatian was official only from 1848, but also Hungarian was official for some time and German also. That does not mean that Croats were Romans, Hungarians or Germans but latin language was remain of middle ages and we were part of big empire that included Austria and Hungary and we were under their influence, but we were Croats and spoke Croatian at home, but in institutions of the state there was a lot of Latin, German and Hungarian. Dubrovnik was an ethnic and cultural mixture but majority of population were Croats. It was normal that Latin was official at the time. The city was first part of Roman Empire(west and east(Byzantium)), Eastern Roman empire proclaimed first Croatian king governor of Dalmatia, and King Stephen King of Dalmatia, so they incorparated these cityies of dalmatia in Croatian kingdoom and settled a lot of Croatian slavic population in dalmatian Cityies and near them. In the beggining all of these cityies were roman but till the end of 11. th century the mayority of inhabitatns of these cityies were croatian.when pope Aleksanadar 3. visited Zadar in 1177, population of zadar welcomed him singing songs in croatian language. I want to say that language of the common people in great mayority was croatian, but Latin and other language were used id administration in whole Croatia untill. 19. th century due to prestige and foreign influence. In Ragusa for example, almost the whole litterature and poetry in 16. th century was written in Croatian language. And some arab explorer in 12. th reffered to ragusa as the most south croatian city. So great mayority of population was Croatian and wrote a lot of poetry and litterature and in Croatian language, but due to prestige and foreign influence the language of administration was first latin, later italian.
None of the observations you can find below was written by an italian: “Ragusa, like all the other major cities of Dalmatia, has Roman origins: the ancient citizens, who were later distinguished by attaining the status of nobility, came from Epidaurus. Their names are predominantly Romance and for a long time maintained their Latin type: Bonus, Calenda, Fuscus, Geminianus, Lamponins, Lampridins, Lupus, Maurus, Primus, Proculus, Sabinus, Sergius, Urmis, Ursatius, etc. The church of Ragusa was always Latin. ... Slavs only came later, and slowly so. Among the numerous Ragusan citizens listed in the deed of St. Mary's Monastery on the island of Lacroma from the time of Emperor Basil II (976-1025), there are only two Slavic names.” -Konstantin Jireček, Die Bedeutung von Ragusa in der Handelsgeschichte des Mittelalters, Almanach der Kaiserlichen Akademie der Wissenschaften, Volume 49, 1899 “The old Latin or Roman population of the cities was not however crushed out of existence by these calamities. ...the fugitives from Epidaurus settled on an isolated rock not far from their ancient home, where they founded the city of Ragusa... From this time forward Dalmatia presents the spectacle of two distinct peoples living side by side, of different race, language, customs, and aspirations, and to a certain extent with different religious proclivities. In the towns of Zara, Traù, Spalato, Ragusa, and Cattaro on the mainland, and those of Arbe, Veglia, and Ossero on the islands, were the Romans, or as they came to be called Dalmatians, in contra-distinction to the Croats or Serbs, speaking their ancient tongue, governing themselves by their old Roman law, electing their own magistrates and bishops, and preserving the traditions of the municipalities of the empire.” -T. G. Jackson, Dalmatia, the Quarnero and Istria, 1887 “The old Latin, or Roman, population, however did not disappear, nor did it lose its identity and become merged in the ranks of the Slav conquerors. When the first shock was over in 614 AD, the Romans either returned to their old towns or founded new ones, where they managed to live in a state between independence and vassalage till they became strong enough in time to take care of themselves. "Zara" soon rose again from its ruin, the fugitives from Epidaurus settled on an isolated rock not far from their ancient home and founded the city of "Ragusa"... In the old Roman cities the old Roman traditions, and no doubt the old Roman stock survived the shock of Slavonic conquest, and though the Croat was lord outside the city walls and beyond the narrow territory claimed by the citizens, within the gates the Dalmatian people retained their old Roman customs, governed themselves by the old Roman law, and spoke the old Latin tongue, which they still speak at the present day in its modern form. Those who have not acquainted themselves with Dalmatian history are apt to think that the Latin fringe which borders the slavonic province has derived its language and customs from Venice, to which it was so long subject. Nothing can be farther from the truth; Zara, Spalato, Traù and Ragusa were Latin cities when as yet Venice was not existent, and they remained Latin cities throughout the middle ages, with very little help from her influence until the fifteenth century...... -T. G. Jackson, Dalmatia, the Quarnero and Istria, 1887 “Some from the beginning were Roman colonies, some arose, phoenix-like, out of the ashes of older towns, as Venice and Grado from Aquileja, and Ragusa from Epidaurus and Salonae. For everywhere in the latter days of the empire the Italian inhabitants, flying from their old towns and the more inland parts before their barbarian invaders, began to take refuge in those spots...and preserved to them, even in those early times, the means of procuring some of the refinements of more civilized life... Thus latterly the once widely extended Roman “province of Dalmatia” came to consist of seven such towns on the coast, or in the islands, viz.-Ragusa, Spalato, Trau, Zara on the former; and Veglia, Ossero, Arbe in the latter. They retained-as it were, in proof of their descent-(1) their language, though somewhat metamorphosed, the Latin of the classics gradually degenerating, until it caught a new life and again flourished as Italian of the middle ages; (2) their superiority in civilization, by means of which they were enabled to maintain themselves in very difficult circumstances and amongst semi-barbarous neighbours; (3) their original political constitutions, which, springing from the Roman commonwealth, were formed on the republican model, like the other Italian commonwealths of the middle ages. Hence, as might be expected from their origin and past history, these towns abound in old Italian and Roman families...” -William Frederick Wingfield, A Tour in Dalmatia, Albania and Montenegro, 1859 “Ragusa is built in the Italian style, and assimilates with the Italian towns, both in the customs and language of its inhabitants.” -Encyclopaedia Metropolitana, Volume 23, 1845 “Venice, Genoa, Luca and Ragusa are Italian Free States. ... Ragusa (in times past Epidaurum) is in Dalmatia, Italianated in language and conditions.” -Samuel Purchas, Purchas his Pilgrimes, Volume 1, 1625 “...the present race animosity between Croat and Italian is deplorable. The Croats, [today] being in the majority, are using their power to oppress the Italian-speaking portion of the population. The schools are now all Croat, and the Italians have no means of instruction for their children in their own language except at Zara. At Spalato the race feeling is especially bitter... The Italian theatre was burnt down some years ago...” -Frederick Hamilton Jackson, The Shores of the Adriatic, the Austrian Side, 1908 “The whole extent of Dalmatia comes to less than 5,000 square miles...and not a single one of its numerous fine cities can be pointed out as of [anything] other than Roman or Italian character and derivation. With Balkan tribes and the Slavonic type of life its connection is much later, and was long limited to the mountain districts. Rome and Venice have shaped its history, inspired its literature, and created its art. The [Dalmatian] city-states could learn nothing from a people like the Slavonic invaders, since these did not even take kindly to the Byzantines who ruled them while they formed part of the Eastern Empire.” -William Barry, The Dublin Review, Volume 164, April-May-June 1919
"They gained independence in 1358 when Hungarian-Croat kingdoom(we enter in personal union with hungary after our last king died and had no children and his wife was hungarian princess) defetaed venice and retaken control over whole dalmatia, so then Dubrovnik got independenece in 1358" You want to give the idea that Dubrovnik (none called Dubrovnik Dubrovnik in 1358) was a kind of slavic/croatian town which gained its independence after fighting against the evil Venice (Italian). The fact is that Repubblica di Ragusa was more latin (italian) in its identity than many other italian city- including Venice. How do you explain this? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ragusan_nobility If you go through the list of Ragusan senators who attended the last session of their Greater Council, the one in which it was announced that the glorious republic was dissolved (Aug. 29, 1814): of a little over forty incontestable Italian names of the senators, only one is of Croatian origin: Marino Domenico, count of Zlatarich. Ragusa, officially known as Dubrovnik only from 1919 on. Ragusa has been an independent republic governed since the Middle Ages by a Latin/Illirian oligarchy. When it was abolished in 1808 by the Napoleonic army, the small but influential and immensely rich maritime republic left a gigantic archive in which all government documents were written, first in Latin, then in Italian “volgare” and finally in modern Italian (the Republic had an office in charge of translations from Slavic vernacular). In the daily business of the government and in diplomacy - Ragusa had over 80 consulates in every major European and Middle Eastern city -, the official language of the small republic was Italian. Furthermore, The Republic of Ragusa is remembered as ''The fifth Maritime Republic of Italy'' (with Venice, Pisa, Amalfi and Genoa). For centuries, the well-to-do Ragusan families sent their children to study in the Italian universities. Across the Adriatic sea, Ragusans had daily contacts with Italy. The celebrated libraries of Ragusa were full of Italian editions of every kind, but no books printed in Serbo-Croatian language.
@@Caleidus In that time, begining of 20.th century was italian desire to incorporate dalmatia to italy. So we should look conclusion of non bias historyians, and modern historyans, not old one. Two examples, by the end of 14. th century Croatian was predominant language of peope living in ragusa, also in begining of 16. th century, Marko Marulić wrote Judita in Croatian language to encourage people of Split and dalmatia to fight against Turks and Marko Marulić was part of aristocracy of Split. Archbishop of spalato was Metropolitan archbishop in Croatain kingdom from 925-1102. Also you had monastery in zadar and the main nun was sister of croatian king Zvonimir and they wrote books in glagoljica, type of letter made by ciril and methodius for slavic people. The whole mediteranium was a part of Roman Empire and has roman origins, but Roman empire collapsed and new settlerd arrived. Dalmatia was melting pot of cultures. There was too many Croats and for fue centuries Croatain was predominant language in Ragusa, Split, Zadar... You can google this if you want...
I've watched quite a few of your videos and for some reason never commented. I love the way you present them and am so pleased to see your hard work paying off. Top notch!!! (PS love how you used Life at Sea whilst on this one... perfect choice!)
Those dives are epic!! It must be amazing setting sail knowing that tomorrow you will wake up to a new place and a whole bunch of new experiences. Dubrovnik looks incredible, but loved the way you guys found that perfect spot to watch the sunset over the ocean. Brilliant set of priorities! Talking of cruises, my son is currently docked in Stockholm, Sweden and messaged me this afternoon to say he was drinking mead in a Viking Bar. Hope he is sober enough to play his drums for the evening gig ha ha!!
Last December when we spent a month in Croatia, one week of that time we spent in Dubrovnik and we stayed in an Airbnb building just inside the eastern gate. Wonderful place!
Dubrovnik is on my personal bucket list, I first heard of it through my love of game of thrones but that’s not the reason I want to go there, it’s because it just look so beautiful 😍😍
You two are so cute. I love the joy you radiate through your experiences. I am in love with Croatia (and the Adriatic). In fact, I am currently sitting in my AirBnB apt in the heart of the Diocletian Palace in Split, just ending a 3 month stay here. (My 3rd trip to this beautiful country). Fun to see so many of the places I love being enjoyed by others and filmed so well.
yah, dubrovnik is in my top 5 dream european destinations. right after london and paris, and before prague and ibiza. tho to be fair all of croatia is in my dream destination, especially plitvice and krka
Interesting mix of places you have on your bucket list! We've been to 4 of those and youve got all basis covered :P Croatia is stunning - if you like coast/sea you need to come here first.
Haha, Stacey don't worry you have company in Mercy. Never watched Games of Thrones. The tour looks good and love that they were prepared for you with earpieces coz of the large crowds. It looks beautiful there especially the chill spot.
First time I visited Dubrovnik 1988 ...(17 years old ) lol. I absolutely loved it . Anytime we go to Montenegro, we try to stop in Dubrovnik as well. Great food ,Incredible scenery, beautiful friendly people. What can you say....It is thee Pearl of the Adriatic ! Btw awesome video
Beautiful country. Beautiful video. Dane and Stace, c'mon... Game of Thrones is one of the BEST series ever made! Hahaha 🤣🤣🤣 Love you guys. Happy to see you have a good time. PS: hope you guys do a van life adventure for 2019. That would be epic to watch 😃
Dubrovnik is on my bucket list as I'm a HUGE GoT fanboy. What a spectacular city! Only negative for me is that I'm not a fan of destinations with huge crowds. I'd probably do what you both did and walk off the beaten track.
Just discovered your channel. Loving this cruise Croatia blog. We are going to Croatia in August if we are allowed out. West Aussie here. Because of your blog trying to find a cruise from Split to Dubrovnick. Better than flying or just catching the ferry. Did you book direct with Cruise Croatia? Thanks Caz. Oh and you two are adorable.
I was telling my wife, Wow that is where this happened on GoT and this happened. She just said I have no idea what you are taking about, but amazing place all the same.
Thank you for this lovely intro to Dubrovnik ... I went on a tour to Pula Rovinc Opatija etc do beautiful and clean with exquisite red wibe and cheese (and i hate red wine usually) ...crystal clear silver sea ... reminded me of Italy as was just opposite ... so so lovely ... the beach club looked so cool too .. the prices were not so much in this Istrian region. you two are great xx. Cant wait for the national park ... Want to go there ... am planning to go to Split etc after Asia and maybe S America ...leave in November after a tour in Vietnam ...going with a mini backpack 25l
Sounds like you're in for an epic trip! We've got too much technology to go that lean on the luggage but awesome to hear you're going to make it work - niiiiice
😄 your tour guide Got a hi-5 ✋😄😄😄 ..oh but the place is Amazing 👌👏 and I've noticed coming out of the tiny tunnel the music in the background is the music that you use when ending the video 📸📹🎬??😉
Informative & well shot... Aside from the crowds, looks kinda peaceful... :P Can definitely see the Venetian / Italian style imparted on parts of the city... 8:13 ...Hahaha... How much would you say the "Tourist Tax" of being in Dubrovnik vs Zagreb is...? (Assuming you ate lunch or dinner off the boat)
Actually Dubrovnik didn't have much to do with Venice, they were not very much influenced by them and unlike most Dalmatian cities, Dubrovnik was not founded by Italians. Dubrovnik hated Venice so much they took a part of their land called Neum and gave it to Turks because they didn't want to share a border with Venetians. That's the reason why Croatia is separated in 2 parts and why Bosnia has a little entrance to the Adriatic sea.
You guys do such great videos capturing the countries you go to so well, enough to make us want to explore these places for ourselves. I would like to know if travelling to Croatia solo, are the cruises worth doing? Do you get enough time to explore fully? and for a solo person, are the boat rooms big enough for 2 random people to share? Looking to do a trip through Croatia and or the Balkans.
Thanks - appreciate that. This cruise might not cater to singles as much, we're not sure sorry. If you're up for smaller boats and less luxury there's plenty of other options with Sail Croatia but it's a younger crowd, catering for singles a bit more. We found both options to have a good option of relaxing and exploring, not as immersive as typical travel of course but enough
Croatia is definitely on my top 10 bucket list countries to go to. You said in the beginning your tour guide gave you advice about what the locals do. Do you all normally get a tour guide first or explore on your own, or does it depend on the country? It seems like a tour guide might be a way of easing into the culture and getting the inside scoop guess both ways have their fun/
Because we were on the 7 day cruise there was a guide giving us intel on each place, then they offer the chance to take excursions. So we booked a walking tour around town to get some more history. So really does depend on where we are and how much info we already know
Daneger and Stacey Gotcha that makes sense, I was curious because some of your videos it looks like you have done a few tours and some of you haven’t. I suppose a tour guide is a good way to fill in the blank’s if you’re not too familiar with the place
I love Dubrovnik, I visited in 2017. If travel is allowed again soon I hope to visit Split and Hvar at the end of September. I can’t wait to go back. Was your trip filmed in September? I just found your channel, your videos are great. I’ll be subscribing 😃
It was September, yup. Split is definitely a cool place with some amazing views too - be sure to also look at Trogir if/when you go back. Thanks for the sub
You guys are our travel inspirations :-) We're heading to Croatia next month, all booked with a Sail Croatia as well, thanks to your video series. Just out of curiosity, which 'walking tour' company did you use or recommend? We're both really eager to learn about this beautiful place in the short period of time we have. Thanks in advance...
Hey guys, glad we can help inspire your travels 😀 You're going to love Sail Croatia - it is soooo epic! There tours are all booked through Sail Croatia while you're onboard, the day prior, and theres only 2 options. You can pick the walking tour or the Game Of Thrones tour.
07:50 40 days, that is the reason they call it quarantene - quaranta means 40. There is an island close to Mali Losinj island where they did the same procedure.
Whenever I watch your vlogs, I always wish you have more subscribers. You're vlogs are always great. I wish your channel will blow up and be more successful. 😊❤️ I just hate how some cheap vloggers in the Phils. get more subscribers. I'm Filipino so I've seen them. 😂 Africa is always in my bucketlist. Will you ever go to there? 😊
Hahaha you know how the travel YT game works then. There’s a reason people vlog from PH so often - don’t get us wrong, the PH is literally one of our fav places in the world, but you can’t grow a genuine audience just by filming there sadly. Africa’s on our list as well but probably next year sadly
Too bad you didnt went to see Dance, outside city walls, where they buried dead from the plague, also in small church you can see items people left as a gift to church and God to save their family lives, Dubrovnik, I think, also is first country in Europe to recognize USA as a country
It is just beautiful, I was struck by the architecture and the people, who are very pleasant. It is a shame that lots of tourists are allowed in at once. It sort of spoilt my time there.
For a moment, I thought you were wearing an earring shaped like a fang...and then I saw it was a earplug lol.. How long was the walk? Is it very tiring for lazy peeps like me? :D
Can't wait to see your Mljet video. Say hello to "European" mongeese :) gooses whateva... I'd like to hear all the crazy stories from Dubrovnik. I'm all ears!
I think so far the two of you have done more for the Croatian tourism than the Croatian National Tourist Board in the last 30 years. So many videos. Thank you. I still hope for "Inner Istria" gastronomic, cultural and romantic delights video. Or maybe you'd need to return to Croatia once again.
lol yeah "only in Serbia". Come on man. Croatia was full of mines after war with Serbia, but now it is cleared. In few year it should be completly free.
It’s one of safest countries in world. Very little crime. It is in the top fifteen visited countries in the world and per capita in the top five. A huge tourist industry
I want to go but the Game Of Thrones references are useless to me as I never watched a single episode and it seems this is the only reason people go to Dubrovnik these days, plus its super expensive there.
Didn't even realise we were whispering... just trying not to be inconsiderate of other peoples experience. We're cool with the locals doing their thing, but we like to be thoughtful travellers :)
When in Dalmatia you need to behave like Dalmatians. Dalmatian fish swim 3 times in liquids. At first, in the sea. Second, with olive oil in your plate. Finally in your stomach with wine. So You committed a crime in Makarska when you ate grilled fish without domestic olive oil. Please do not play it again...)
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I live there and I saw you when you were in the park outside of the walls lol, hope you enjoy☺
Oh really? Cool! We were just hanging out with our beers and food haha
During the day Dubrovnik is beautiful, but during the night, when they turn on the lights its just magic.
We did stay around until dark and watch the lights etc (camera sucks in low light) but didnt go to any clubs or anything haha.
Croatia is love...
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Dubrovnik is amazing, the moment you step inside the walls it's like being transported into the past and into a fairytale! Yeah, crowds are huge, but I can understand everyone's desire to visit it. Pity you didn't do a wall walk, it offers stunning views, but I guess there was no time for everything. And btw your guide was real eye candy :)
Haha glad you enjoyed the video and our guide :p
Yeah, was not easy to focus on Dubrovnik and stories cause I was distracted all the time 😁😁😂😂👍👍
Bizarre you mentioned the quarantine place - a bit prescient !!!
Wow.
Croatia is such a dream
I'm a huge fan of Game of Thrones so I knew that street looks familiar....Dubrovnik is so such a beautiful location...Nice vlog!
Crazy to see it without that GOT old style look huh!?
Yes!
You said correct informations, i will put a few more that are peculiar. Dubrovnik had its trading post(a town) in india, they had big trading navy and fue thousands sailors. Also they were aristocratic republic(no king), similar like Venice, but dubrovnians were croats and spoke croatian language. Also the Dubrovnian republic streched from ston in the west till about todays border with montenegro. Also they had Island of Mljet and and lastovo. They were very rich and fortified its state and paid tributes to have peace. In their western border they made like mini china wall near town of ston(check it on google, its amazing, its 5.5 km long with 40 towers and 5 forts) that strechets from the sea to do mountians, it covers whole their western border. They gained independence in 1358 when Hungarian-Croat kingdoom(we enter in personal union with hungary after our last king died and had no children and his wife was hungarian princess) defetaed venice and retaken control over whole dalmatia, so then Dubrovnik got independenece in 1358. It was flourishing in renesiance till the great earthquqke, after that dubrovnik never regained former wealth and prestige.
Stop telling lies!!!
“Dubrovnik”, which is a reference to the Republic of Ragusa, its real name, was an Italian maritime republic founded by Romans who had escaped the medieval invasions of the Slavs and Avars. Ragusa was an ancient Roman city which inherited its language and culture from Rome, and modeled its institutions on Venice. The official language was Italian; the nobility and representatives were Italian; the names were Italian; and the culture itself was Italian. Slavic was initially spoken only by immigrants and refugees who began to pour into Ragusa's territory following the Ottoman conquest of the Balkans in the 15th century; the Ragusan Senate banned their language in 1472 in a desperate attempt to preserve the Italian character of the country. For a millennium Ragusa belonged to the Latin and Italian cultural sphere and had nothing to do with Croatia or the Slavic world.
@@Caleidus You are wright and wrong in the same time. For example in Croatia the official language of Croatian parliament and schooling was latin, Croatian was official only from 1848, but also Hungarian was official for some time and German also. That does not mean that Croats were Romans, Hungarians or Germans but latin language was remain of middle ages and we were part of big empire that included Austria and Hungary and we were under their influence, but we were Croats and spoke Croatian at home, but in institutions of the state there was a lot of Latin, German and Hungarian. Dubrovnik was an ethnic and cultural mixture but majority of population were Croats. It was normal that Latin was official at the time. The city was first part of Roman Empire(west and east(Byzantium)), Eastern Roman empire proclaimed first Croatian king governor of Dalmatia, and King Stephen King of Dalmatia, so they incorparated these cityies of dalmatia in Croatian kingdoom and settled a lot of Croatian slavic population in dalmatian Cityies and near them. In the beggining all of these cityies were roman but till the end of 11. th century the mayority of inhabitatns of these cityies were croatian.when pope Aleksanadar 3. visited Zadar in 1177, population of zadar welcomed him singing songs in croatian language. I want to say that language of the common people in great mayority was croatian, but Latin and other language were used id administration in whole Croatia untill. 19. th century due to prestige and foreign influence. In Ragusa for example, almost the whole litterature and poetry in 16. th century was written in Croatian language. And some arab explorer in 12. th reffered to ragusa as the most south croatian city. So great mayority of population was Croatian and wrote a lot of poetry and litterature and in Croatian language, but due to prestige and foreign influence the language of administration was first latin, later italian.
None of the observations you can find below was written by an italian:
“Ragusa, like all the other major cities of Dalmatia, has Roman origins: the ancient citizens, who were later distinguished by attaining the status of nobility, came from Epidaurus. Their names are predominantly Romance and for a long time maintained their Latin type: Bonus, Calenda, Fuscus, Geminianus, Lamponins, Lampridins, Lupus, Maurus, Primus, Proculus, Sabinus, Sergius, Urmis, Ursatius, etc. The church of Ragusa was always Latin. ... Slavs only came later, and slowly so. Among the numerous Ragusan citizens listed in the deed of St. Mary's Monastery on the island of Lacroma from the time of Emperor Basil II (976-1025), there are only two Slavic names.”
-Konstantin Jireček, Die Bedeutung von Ragusa in der Handelsgeschichte des Mittelalters, Almanach der Kaiserlichen Akademie der Wissenschaften, Volume 49, 1899
“The old Latin or Roman population of the cities was not however crushed out of existence by these calamities. ...the fugitives from Epidaurus settled on an isolated rock not far from their ancient home, where they founded the city of Ragusa... From this time forward Dalmatia presents the spectacle of two distinct peoples living side by side, of different race, language, customs, and aspirations, and to a certain extent with different religious proclivities. In the towns of Zara, Traù, Spalato, Ragusa, and Cattaro on the mainland, and those of Arbe, Veglia, and Ossero on the islands, were the Romans, or as they came to be called Dalmatians, in contra-distinction to the Croats or Serbs, speaking their ancient tongue, governing themselves by their old Roman law, electing their own magistrates and bishops, and preserving the traditions of the municipalities of the empire.”
-T. G. Jackson, Dalmatia, the Quarnero and Istria, 1887
“The old Latin, or Roman, population, however did not disappear, nor did it lose its identity and become merged in the ranks of the Slav conquerors. When the first shock was over in 614 AD, the Romans either returned to their old towns or founded new ones, where they managed to live in a state between independence and vassalage till they became strong enough in time to take care of themselves. "Zara" soon rose again from its ruin, the fugitives from Epidaurus settled on an isolated rock not far from their ancient home and founded the city of "Ragusa"...
In the old Roman cities the old Roman traditions, and no doubt the old Roman stock survived the shock of Slavonic conquest, and though the Croat was lord outside the city walls and beyond the narrow territory claimed by the citizens, within the gates the Dalmatian people retained their old Roman customs, governed themselves by the old Roman law, and spoke the old Latin tongue, which they still speak at the present day in its modern form. Those who have not acquainted themselves with Dalmatian history are apt to think that the Latin fringe which borders the slavonic province has derived its language and customs from Venice, to which it was so long subject. Nothing can be farther from the truth; Zara, Spalato, Traù and Ragusa were Latin cities when as yet Venice was not existent, and they remained Latin cities throughout the middle ages, with very little help from her influence until the fifteenth century......
-T. G. Jackson, Dalmatia, the Quarnero and Istria, 1887
“Some from the beginning were Roman colonies, some arose, phoenix-like, out of the ashes of older towns, as Venice and Grado from Aquileja, and Ragusa from Epidaurus and Salonae. For everywhere in the latter days of the empire the Italian inhabitants, flying from their old towns and the more inland parts before their barbarian invaders, began to take refuge in those spots...and preserved to them, even in those early times, the means of procuring some of the refinements of more civilized life... Thus latterly the once widely extended Roman “province of Dalmatia” came to consist of seven such towns on the coast, or in the islands, viz.-Ragusa, Spalato, Trau, Zara on the former; and Veglia, Ossero, Arbe in the latter. They retained-as it were, in proof of their descent-(1) their language, though somewhat metamorphosed, the Latin of the classics gradually degenerating, until it caught a new life and again flourished as Italian of the middle ages; (2) their superiority in civilization, by means of which they were enabled to maintain themselves in very difficult circumstances and amongst semi-barbarous neighbours; (3) their original political constitutions, which, springing from the Roman commonwealth, were formed on the republican model, like the other Italian commonwealths of the middle ages. Hence, as might be expected from their origin and past history, these towns abound in old Italian and Roman families...”
-William Frederick Wingfield, A Tour in Dalmatia, Albania and Montenegro, 1859
“Ragusa is built in the Italian style, and assimilates with the Italian towns, both in the customs and language of its inhabitants.”
-Encyclopaedia Metropolitana, Volume 23, 1845
“Venice, Genoa, Luca and Ragusa are Italian Free States. ... Ragusa (in times past Epidaurum) is in Dalmatia, Italianated in language and conditions.”
-Samuel Purchas, Purchas his Pilgrimes, Volume 1, 1625
“...the present race animosity between Croat and Italian is deplorable. The Croats, [today] being in the majority, are using their power to oppress the Italian-speaking portion of the population. The schools are now all Croat, and the Italians have no means of instruction for their children in their own language except at Zara. At Spalato the race feeling is especially bitter... The Italian theatre was burnt down some years ago...”
-Frederick Hamilton Jackson, The Shores of the Adriatic, the Austrian Side, 1908
“The whole extent of Dalmatia comes to less than 5,000 square miles...and not a single one of its numerous fine cities can be pointed out as of [anything] other than Roman or Italian character and derivation. With Balkan tribes and the Slavonic type of life its connection is much later, and was long limited to the mountain districts. Rome and Venice have shaped its history, inspired its literature, and created its art. The [Dalmatian] city-states could learn nothing from a people like the Slavonic invaders, since these did not even take kindly to the Byzantines who ruled them while they formed part of the Eastern Empire.”
-William Barry, The Dublin Review, Volume 164, April-May-June 1919
"They gained independence in 1358 when Hungarian-Croat kingdoom(we enter in personal union with hungary after our last king died and had no children and his wife was hungarian princess) defetaed venice and retaken control over whole dalmatia, so then Dubrovnik got independenece in 1358"
You want to give the idea that Dubrovnik (none called Dubrovnik Dubrovnik in 1358) was a kind of slavic/croatian town which gained its independence after fighting against the evil Venice (Italian).
The fact is that Repubblica di Ragusa was more latin (italian) in its identity than many other italian city- including Venice.
How do you explain this?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ragusan_nobility
If you go through the list of Ragusan senators who attended the last session of their Greater Council, the one in which it was announced that the glorious republic was dissolved (Aug. 29, 1814): of a little over forty incontestable Italian names of the senators, only one is of Croatian origin: Marino Domenico, count of Zlatarich.
Ragusa, officially known as Dubrovnik only from 1919 on.
Ragusa has been an independent republic governed since the Middle Ages by a Latin/Illirian oligarchy. When it was abolished in 1808 by the Napoleonic army, the small but influential and immensely rich maritime republic left a gigantic archive in which all government documents were written, first in Latin, then in Italian “volgare” and finally in modern Italian (the Republic had an office in charge of translations from Slavic vernacular). In the daily business of the government and in diplomacy - Ragusa had over 80 consulates in every major European and Middle Eastern city -, the official language of the small republic was Italian. Furthermore, The Republic of Ragusa is remembered as ''The fifth Maritime Republic of Italy'' (with Venice, Pisa, Amalfi and Genoa). For centuries, the well-to-do Ragusan families sent their children to study in the Italian universities. Across the Adriatic sea, Ragusans had daily contacts with Italy. The celebrated libraries of Ragusa were full of Italian editions of every kind, but no books printed in Serbo-Croatian language.
@@Caleidus In that time, begining of 20.th century was italian desire to incorporate dalmatia to italy. So we should look conclusion of non bias historyians, and modern historyans, not old one. Two examples, by the end of 14. th century Croatian was predominant language of peope living in ragusa, also in begining of 16. th century, Marko Marulić wrote Judita in Croatian language to encourage people of Split and dalmatia to fight against Turks and Marko Marulić was part of aristocracy of Split. Archbishop of spalato was Metropolitan archbishop in Croatain kingdom from 925-1102. Also you had monastery in zadar and the main nun was sister of croatian king Zvonimir and they wrote books in glagoljica, type of letter made by ciril and methodius for slavic people. The whole mediteranium was a part of Roman Empire and has roman origins, but Roman empire collapsed and new settlerd arrived. Dalmatia was melting pot of cultures. There was too many Croats and for fue centuries Croatain was predominant language in Ragusa, Split, Zadar... You can google this if you want...
I've watched quite a few of your videos and for some reason never commented. I love the way you present them and am so pleased to see your hard work paying off. Top notch!!! (PS love how you used Life at Sea whilst on this one... perfect choice!)
Stoked you decided to drop a comment! Good pick up on the song as well 🤣 Looks like you've visited so pretty epic spots as well.
Awesome video guys! Dubrovnik looks amazing and that jump!! Wow!😂
Great video guys and I love how you explained things to us
Some interesting stuff going on there huh! Thanks as alway :)
Love you guys you are so cute together
Wow Dubrovnik’s history is so interesting, I already wanted to go here but now I want to even more!
Hey Lee - so happy we can show you another side to the city! You're going to love it :)
One of my favourite cities in Croatia! Have a lovely time!
Crazy interesting place huh!! Glad you've had the chance to visit
We went to Dubrovnik and completely loved it.
Your trip also looks completely epic.
Loved watching you guys (as usual) 👏🏼☺️
Amazing place huh! Far too busy to spend a long time in the walls tho haha
Those dives are epic!! It must be amazing setting sail knowing that tomorrow you will wake up to a new place and a whole bunch of new experiences. Dubrovnik looks incredible, but loved the way you guys found that perfect spot to watch the sunset over the ocean. Brilliant set of priorities! Talking of cruises, my son is currently docked in Stockholm, Sweden and messaged me this afternoon to say he was drinking mead in a Viking Bar. Hope he is sober enough to play his drums for the evening gig ha ha!!
Your son is loving the dream haha! It’s amazing like you said - all the planning done and you just wake up to a new setting, sunshine and breakfast!
Last December when we spent a month in Croatia, one week of that time we spent in Dubrovnik and we stayed in an Airbnb building just inside the eastern gate. Wonderful place!
Magical place isnt it! How did you find spending a whole week there?
My wife and I are both musicians and virtually every day there was same type of musical performance.
Volim te Croatia. And your videos ofcourse too😍😍😍
Great stuff you 2, have fun we love it!!
Loving it :) Glad you're enjoying as well.
Dubrovnik is on my personal bucket list, I first heard of it through my love of game of thrones but that’s not the reason I want to go there, it’s because it just look so beautiful 😍😍
Nice JUMP!! Beautiful castle!!
You two are so cute. I love the joy you radiate through your experiences. I am in love with Croatia (and the Adriatic). In fact, I am currently sitting in my AirBnB apt in the heart of the Diocletian Palace in Split, just ending a 3 month stay here. (My 3rd trip to this beautiful country). Fun to see so many of the places I love being enjoyed by others and filmed so well.
You’re too kind Sarah, thank you! Hard not to love Croatia right?
Well done, again. You keep raising the bar.
Thank yoooooou!
Another awesome vlog thank you for sharing Dubrovnik to us! Take care you guys!
Yay!! Lots more to come this week - stay tuned!
My Dubrovnik 🖤
You guys are good, I enjoy your narrations.
Amazing 💏!!!!
Thank you for promoting our beautiful country!
Thank you for having us
Somebody set up a gofundme to get Dane a new shirt, this one is all ripped up! 😆
Haha always more expensive when it comes with the rips 'pre-installed'... go figure :P
My wife can't stand it. Going for "Hobo Chic"?
Oh hi there! I hope you enjoy my city and you are welcome here always
yah, dubrovnik is in my top 5 dream european destinations. right after london and paris, and before prague and ibiza. tho to be fair all of croatia is in my dream destination, especially plitvice and krka
Interesting mix of places you have on your bucket list! We've been to 4 of those and youve got all basis covered :P Croatia is stunning - if you like coast/sea you need to come here first.
Can't wait to walk the walls in Dubrovnik!
Hope it's not as busy for you when you go! It was hectic (but still an awesome experience)
so cool!
Haha, Stacey don't worry you have company in Mercy. Never watched Games of Thrones. The tour looks good and love that they were prepared for you with earpieces coz of the large crowds. It looks beautiful there especially the chill spot.
First time I visited Dubrovnik 1988 ...(17 years old ) lol. I absolutely loved it . Anytime we go to Montenegro, we try to stop in Dubrovnik as well. Great food ,Incredible scenery, beautiful friendly people. What can you say....It is thee Pearl of the Adriatic ! Btw awesome video
Thanks for sharing! Sounds like you've probably seen more of this side of the world than us
Nice vlog, thumb up!
Agreed! Makes us want to go to Croatia :)
Beautiful country. Beautiful video. Dane and Stace, c'mon... Game of Thrones is one of the BEST series ever made! Hahaha 🤣🤣🤣 Love you guys. Happy to see you have a good time.
PS: hope you guys do a van life adventure for 2019. That would be epic to watch 😃
Haha I’ve seen them and loved it, but just not a mega fan boy :) Stace hasn’t seen more than 30 seconds lol. Van life is on the table for sure.
Dubrovnik is on my bucket list as I'm a HUGE GoT fanboy. What a spectacular city! Only negative for me is that I'm not a fan of destinations with huge crowds. I'd probably do what you both did and walk off the beaten track.
The Travelling Ulcers Then you should visit out of summer seson 😉
Yup it’s win some lose some here! Amazing place but sooo busy.
Come during winter, it's not cold and not as crowded, also prices drop out of season ;)
So, come in autumn or spring. It is beautiful and not so much crowded.
In summer it is the most overpopulated city in the world . Reports about crowds getting stucked in the big gates , are not rare .
Just discovered your channel. Loving this cruise Croatia blog. We are going to Croatia in August if we are allowed out. West Aussie here. Because of your blog trying to find a cruise from Split to Dubrovnick. Better than flying or just catching the ferry. Did you book direct with Cruise Croatia? Thanks Caz. Oh and you two are adorable.
Another great vid guys!!!
Thanks Lana! 2 more to share with you this week:)
Awesome, can't wait!
I was telling my wife, Wow that is where this happened on GoT and this happened. She just said I have no idea what you are taking about, but amazing place all the same.
Exactly how it went when I explained to Stace on the day!
Thank you for this lovely intro to Dubrovnik ... I went on a tour to Pula Rovinc Opatija etc do beautiful and clean with exquisite red wibe and cheese (and i hate red wine usually) ...crystal clear silver sea ... reminded me of Italy as was just opposite ... so so lovely ... the beach club looked so cool too .. the prices were not so much in this Istrian region. you two are great xx. Cant wait for the national park ... Want to go there ... am planning to go to Split etc after Asia and maybe S America ...leave in November after a tour in Vietnam ...going with a mini backpack 25l
Sounds like you're in for an epic trip! We've got too much technology to go that lean on the luggage but awesome to hear you're going to make it work - niiiiice
Again 👍
Great video,👍👍👍👍👍
Are the Plitvicka Jezera next? Fantastic vlog about Dubrovnik! 👍
😄 your tour guide Got a hi-5 ✋😄😄😄 ..oh but the place is Amazing 👌👏 and I've noticed coming out of the tiny tunnel the music in the background is the music that you use when ending the video 📸📹🎬??😉
Ahhh well done you’re noticing a lot of the little bits others didn’t (or didn’t comment on!)
3:57 Hahaha i see that cat almost every time i go to old town
Really? Haha thats great
Yeah, when you come to Dubrovnik just don't ask us when does the castle close😂
Informative & well shot...
Aside from the crowds, looks kinda peaceful... :P
Can definitely see the Venetian / Italian style imparted on parts of the city...
8:13 ...Hahaha...
How much would you say the "Tourist Tax" of being in Dubrovnik vs Zagreb is...? (Assuming you ate lunch or dinner off the boat)
Once you get away from the crowd its definitely peaceful! Honestly it's like a 20-50% premium on what we saw in Zagreb, kinda shocked us!
Actually Dubrovnik didn't have much to do with Venice, they were not very much influenced by them and unlike most Dalmatian cities, Dubrovnik was not founded by Italians. Dubrovnik hated Venice so much they took a part of their land called Neum and gave it to Turks because they didn't want to share a border with Venetians. That's the reason why Croatia is separated in 2 parts and why Bosnia has a little entrance to the Adriatic sea.
Totally agree!
Yayyy my home town
We are headed to Croatia by Land and Sea tour in early October. Your videos have been very helpful to us.
So happy to hear this! Hope you have an amazing trip 😊
Croatia is so beautiful.
Haha you and Stacey both!!
Ohhhhh I am late today!! Happy Monday!!!
Slipping down the order or comments! Gotta get up earlier to get that 🏆
I was just glad I was able to sleep past 6:00!!! Doesn't happen too often these days.
You guys do such great videos capturing the countries you go to so well, enough to make us want to explore these places for ourselves. I would like to know if travelling to Croatia solo, are the cruises worth doing? Do you get enough time to explore fully? and for a solo person, are the boat rooms big enough for 2 random people to share? Looking to do a trip through Croatia and or the Balkans.
Thanks - appreciate that. This cruise might not cater to singles as much, we're not sure sorry. If you're up for smaller boats and less luxury there's plenty of other options with Sail Croatia but it's a younger crowd, catering for singles a bit more. We found both options to have a good option of relaxing and exploring, not as immersive as typical travel of course but enough
@@DanegerAndStacey thankyou for the feedback. I might look some more options, thanks. I look forward to seeing the next adventure!
:05 definitely want a tour guide like that.
Croatia is definitely on my top 10 bucket list countries to go to. You said in the beginning your tour guide gave you advice about what the locals do. Do you all normally get a tour guide first or explore on your own, or does it depend on the country? It seems like a tour guide might be a way of easing into the culture and getting the inside scoop guess both ways have their fun/
Because we were on the 7 day cruise there was a guide giving us intel on each place, then they offer the chance to take excursions. So we booked a walking tour around town to get some more history. So really does depend on where we are and how much info we already know
Daneger and Stacey Gotcha that makes sense, I was curious because some of your videos it looks like you have done a few tours and some of you haven’t. I suppose a tour guide is a good way to fill in the blank’s if you’re not too familiar with the place
It's funny you never saw Game of Thrones since Stacey looks exactly like Robb Stark's wife Talisa, played by Oona Chaplin :)
ooo!!! yes! Now I know why she looked so familiar! o Goddess, how did I missed it, being a huge GoT fan...shame..shame..
Hahaha we've heard that before actually, just gotta go blonde :P
Omg yaaasss!
I love Dubrovnik, I visited in 2017. If travel is allowed again soon I hope to visit Split and Hvar at the end of September. I can’t wait to go back. Was your trip filmed in September?
I just found your channel, your videos are great. I’ll be subscribing 😃
It was September, yup. Split is definitely a cool place with some amazing views too - be sure to also look at Trogir if/when you go back. Thanks for the sub
You guys are our travel inspirations :-)
We're heading to Croatia next month, all booked with a Sail Croatia as well, thanks to your video series. Just out of curiosity, which 'walking tour' company did you use or recommend? We're both really eager to learn about this beautiful place in the short period of time we have. Thanks in advance...
Hey guys, glad we can help inspire your travels 😀 You're going to love Sail Croatia - it is soooo epic! There tours are all booked through Sail Croatia while you're onboard, the day prior, and theres only 2 options. You can pick the walking tour or the Game Of Thrones tour.
07:50 40 days, that is the reason they call it quarantene - quaranta means 40. There is an island close to Mali Losinj island where they did the same procedure.
super
🇭🇷👍Croatia!👍🇭🇷
I go to Dubrovnik all the time lol I was there 4 days ago
Whenever I watch your vlogs, I always wish you have more subscribers. You're vlogs are always great. I wish your channel will blow up and be more successful. 😊❤️ I just hate how some cheap vloggers in the Phils. get more subscribers. I'm Filipino so I've seen them. 😂 Africa is always in my bucketlist. Will you ever go to there? 😊
Hahaha you know how the travel YT game works then. There’s a reason people vlog from PH so often - don’t get us wrong, the PH is literally one of our fav places in the world, but you can’t grow a genuine audience just by filming there sadly. Africa’s on our list as well but probably next year sadly
@@DanegerAndStacey Thank you for giving us nice content. Congrats on 60k subscribers! Been here before you had around 15k subscribers. 😊
Too bad you didnt went to see Dance, outside city walls, where they buried dead from the plague, also in small church you can see items people left as a gift to church and God to save their family lives, Dubrovnik, I think, also is first country in Europe to recognize USA as a country
na svijetu Ivane moj....na svijetu!
o da....trebali su ići na Linđo!slažem se sa tobom brate.pozdrav iz zagorja
Hope you guys are enjoying in our country! Always welcome ❤
Loving it!!
What month were in Dubrovnik? Was it terribly hot??
It was September - wasnt crazy hot, probably a good time of year to visit
Next year we're planning to go there...unless the lame virus is still here.
Greetings from the Netherlands
Ugh, this virus can just piss off now please!! Hope you guys can get there soon.
It is just beautiful, I was struck by the architecture and the people, who are very pleasant.
It is a shame that lots of tourists are allowed in at once. It sort of spoilt my time there.
So true, it can get packed! Amazing place though
For a moment, I thought you were wearing an earring shaped like a fang...and then I saw it was a earplug lol.. How long was the walk? Is it very tiring for lazy peeps like me? :D
The walk was only an hour and we actually didn’t cover a huge amount of ground - you’d love it!
That sounds good then..a good way to see the place!
😍😍😍😍
Can't wait to see your Mljet video. Say hello to "European" mongeese :) gooses whateva... I'd like to hear all the crazy stories from Dubrovnik. I'm all ears!
Just uploaded it!
I think so far the two of you have done more for the Croatian tourism than the Croatian National Tourist Board in the last 30 years. So many videos. Thank you. I still hope for "Inner Istria" gastronomic, cultural and romantic delights video. Or maybe you'd need to return to Croatia once again.
Too kind! Maybe next time they'll invite us back to make more then :)
844th. Beat my gf to the punch again. Take that babe.....LOL. Greetings from Oklahoma, USA guys. Great vlog as always.
Adam Raymond ❤️❤️❤️ good job baby 😂
Haha that’s a win in itself the !
Lets do this!
Get it! 🥉
Holy moley there's so many people! I'm hoping there will be less people in the middle of winter. lol
Probably a lot less in winter!
Great video guys
Thank you 😀
Still waiting on that manu bro
Be waiting a long time haha
Modric ran around the wall 20 times a day to get fit
First
Got there by a split second!! 🏆
@@DanegerAndStacey good vibes to begin the month of October. I am still hoping that you will stop by Chicago
Crazy to think it's October already!?! Wow.
Is there still a war in croatia and the balkans?
Is it safe regardless the landmines?
only in serbia, because america and NATO bombs serb agressors in 1999
lol yeah "only in Serbia". Come on man. Croatia was full of mines after war with Serbia, but now it is cleared. In few year it should be completly free.
It’s one of safest countries in world. Very little crime. It is in the top fifteen visited countries in the world and per capita in the top five. A huge tourist industry
Don't hike or get into nature in Croatia ... there is ethnic hatred of Serbs and Croats. The Balkans is beautiful though.
Yaas biqqtch. Werk
Werk it
You shud go to zadar
We did :) Have a short video on there
Oh ok
I want to go but the Game Of Thrones references are useless to me as I never watched a single episode and it seems this is the only reason people go to Dubrovnik these days, plus its super expensive there.
It's a big motivator for people to go, but it's pretty special regardless. Stace hasn't seen any episodes and still loved it, busy though!
You should also visit split
We’ve spent a bit of time in Split and Trogir - videos to come next week :)
No need of gym then ;)
Dubrovnik was bombed by the servian barbars!☹️
Why do both of you sometimes whisper? Croatians are loud people, their loudness should not affect both of you... speak freely and loudly please...))
Didn't even realise we were whispering... just trying not to be inconsiderate of other peoples experience. We're cool with the locals doing their thing, but we like to be thoughtful travellers :)
When in Dalmatia you need to behave like Dalmatians. Dalmatian fish swim 3 times in liquids. At first, in the sea. Second, with olive oil in your plate. Finally in your stomach with wine. So You committed a crime in Makarska when you ate grilled fish without domestic olive oil. Please do not play it again...)
Fantastic🤗