Extra tip that I didn’t discovered until later the video: Skills like javelin or explosive fury ( the one that charges fire javelin) u don’t need to press several times the key u can just hold it down and it will recast
I average 26-30 kills during siege with the lag/poor stability issues for console with gs/dagger. You can do some shit but I agree tevants adds more umph to large scale. Guillotine in large scale is really hard to get off due to the charge feature. It makes no sense on how they limited melee, all they gave us to work with is movement and cc but because the (range/magic) users whined about it so much they’ve nerfed that making it less effective. The balancing is so poor getting 70+ kills just sitting back is braindead meanwhile melee has to work hard asf for every single kill unless the enemies are squishy lol I went gs/dagger bc I thought I could 1vX but between all the AOEs that bow/staff have it’s so easy to get shutdown. They we got to do better at balancing tbh
For this reason I was gonna try spear dagger. more survivability less burst potential from the looks. But what is burst potential if u can't pull off the combos
@ with runes survivability with any class is higher tbh. Give it a try, I want to but them added 4 more mastery levels in addition to the rune grind I’m kind of burnt out on TnL.
Mele endurance/ranged endurance, don't as the whole point of mele is to avoid it's cc. If you're talking about ranged/magic it's your only option as you don't have dagger passive.
can i see this build in GvG, im a new FREE TO PLAY player and i do not tlike the idea that im completely useless in a GvG situation, 3v3 is manageable but in GvG my TTK(time to kill) is so slow ill die before i can finish any combos off bc im getting fcked in the ass by ranged/magic skills
we stack fuck ton of eva or endurance in order to get tankiness and there they are tanking a fucking guillotine with an auto passive :D not to mention they can have 2 invis thanks to blitz can get out of your cc with a crystal and survive your full combo and now your skills are on cooldown and you are out of ammo and they will melt the shit out of you. considering most gs/daggers are melee evasion a 1v1 fight between longbow and gs dagger is almost impossible to win for gs/dagger if you are playing against an experienced longbow player. playing a melee class in this game sucks unless you play sns. I am starting to realize that I've made a mistake building melee eva instead of magic/range. magic range eva feels like its better than melee eva even in arena
devoted shield is broken af. I don't know how something like this even in the game. longbow users imo are 2nd tankiest class in this game after sns thanks to this passive. broken.
Okey XD, it's still more friendly than gs/dagger (without tevent) which is the whole point. Ofc bow is the most op thing in ZvZ is utterly braindead, u just charge flashwave clock charge flashwave 50 kills. But this is not the point of the video
@@unlawfulspoon6808 Can’t tell yet, initially dagger/spear seems to be more optimal due to builds with double evasion, and good synergy with aoe dmg due to lighting infusion, but you lose aoe cc control and cc overall
@@unlawfulspoon6808 Haven’t tested it myself but I doubt it, the fire stacks are not shared between weapons, fire staff is more of a stationary weapon, looking to climb into some place and from there dps, spear is more of an all in weapon
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Extra tip that I didn’t discovered until later the video:
Skills like javelin or explosive fury ( the one that charges fire javelin) u don’t need to press several times the key u can just hold it down and it will recast
Thank you for this guide, and amazing breakdown of the pros and cons of every skill! Best one I've found so far.
Ty for the feedback!
Nice guide! Switched to spear dagger for group PvP myself since I’m rocking a mage and range setup.
Might try to bring a dagger/spear guide in the near future
thank you for this vid. helped me sort out my skills and what combos i can use.
Gs spear, your skills of choosing are correct. I'd add ascending , but overall great build
Thank you so much for making this build guide!
Thanks will try to bring more in the future
Can you add a questlog link to your build? Please and thank you
I average 26-30 kills during siege with the lag/poor stability issues for console with gs/dagger. You can do some shit but I agree tevants adds more umph to large scale. Guillotine in large scale is really hard to get off due to the charge feature. It makes no sense on how they limited melee, all they gave us to work with is movement and cc but because the (range/magic) users whined about it so much they’ve nerfed that making it less effective. The balancing is so poor getting 70+ kills just sitting back is braindead meanwhile melee has to work hard asf for every single kill unless the enemies are squishy lol I went gs/dagger bc I thought I could 1vX but between all the AOEs that bow/staff have it’s so easy to get shutdown. They we got to do better at balancing tbh
For this reason I was gonna try spear dagger. more survivability less burst potential from the looks. But what is burst potential if u can't pull off the combos
@ with runes survivability with any class is higher tbh. Give it a try, I want to but them added 4 more mastery levels in addition to the rune grind I’m kind of burnt out on TnL.
@DeadbeatToji haven't played since Halloween n I'm n back now. Definitely needed the break.
This is an amazing break down, do you have a questlog?
Will do one later today
Do you have the build posted somewhere or is it just here?
@@axcelross09 not yet, will do a video explaining some builds
Hey man i was wondering if it would be good if i went full endurance rather than melee evasion
Mele endurance/ranged endurance, don't as the whole point of mele is to avoid it's cc. If you're talking about ranged/magic it's your only option as you don't have dagger passive.
Hello may I ask if GS / Bow is viable pve and pvp?
Thanks for the video
can i see this build in GvG, im a new FREE TO PLAY player and i do not tlike the idea that im completely useless in a GvG situation, 3v3 is manageable but in GvG my TTK(time to kill) is so slow ill die before i can finish any combos off bc im getting fcked in the ass by ranged/magic skills
THANK YOU !!!!!!!!
very nice !!
we stack fuck ton of eva or endurance in order to get tankiness and there they are tanking a fucking guillotine with an auto passive :D not to mention they can have 2 invis thanks to blitz can get out of your cc with a crystal and survive your full combo and now your skills are on cooldown and you are out of ammo and they will melt the shit out of you. considering most gs/daggers are melee evasion a 1v1 fight between longbow and gs dagger is almost impossible to win for gs/dagger if you are playing against an experienced longbow player. playing a melee class in this game sucks unless you play sns. I am starting to realize that I've made a mistake building melee eva instead of magic/range. magic range eva feels like its better than melee eva even in arena
u're good mate
Bow shield just pops when his health goes to 30 percent, if u do guillotine berore the tresholds, they gonna die.
Right, now in a 200 vs 200 fight will get the name of the xbow player and put a timer on 100 people
devoted shield is broken af. I don't know how something like this even in the game. longbow users imo are 2nd tankiest class in this game after sns thanks to this passive. broken.
Dagger > Spear
For arena sure XD, for pvp I can 2x /3x my kill output in big fights with spear/gs than with gs/daggers without tevent
Spear gs is not ZvZ friendly lol. Listen all the spear gs actually represents a bow/staff in zvz, all O no D, as a melee…you can’t have no D
Okey XD, it's still more friendly than gs/dagger (without tevent) which is the whole point. Ofc bow is the most op thing in ZvZ is utterly braindead, u just charge flashwave clock charge flashwave 50 kills. But this is not the point of the video
Gs spear or spear dagger
@@unlawfulspoon6808 Can’t tell yet, initially dagger/spear seems to be more optimal due to builds with double evasion, and good synergy with aoe dmg due to lighting infusion, but you lose aoe cc control and cc overall
@Thexppkiller okay what about staff and spear is it good
@@unlawfulspoon6808 Haven’t tested it myself but I doubt it, the fire stacks are not shared between weapons, fire staff is more of a stationary weapon, looking to climb into some place and from there dps, spear is more of an all in weapon
pve please for boss or aoe
Will do, but I can tell u already that for pve aoe it’s the javelin fire skill combo