The Ultimate Wrist Position For Aiming

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  • @StruthGaming
    @StruthGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +7

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  • @WisdomPowerCourage
    @WisdomPowerCourage ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Yes, I completely agree with the essence of lifting wrist a bit while still having contact with the pad. This is perhaps the biggest tip to going from wrist only too arm aim imo, and perfectly explained here. I sometimes completely plant my wrist if I'm trying to be SUPER accurate, like for instance playing Cass and headshotting a crouch strafing Tracer, or headshotting a widow very far away. You are without doubt the number 1 aim teacher when it comes to physical mechanics. Well done!

    • @StruthGaming
      @StruthGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks mate, much appreciated.

  • @theadventureofyk4309
    @theadventureofyk4309 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    being obsessed with aim improvement lead me to this video lmao

    • @StruthGaming
      @StruthGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You're in the right place :)

    • @TheMainEvnt601
      @TheMainEvnt601 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He should just drip the S. TRUTH GAMING !! shit works wonders for me

    • @NamHoang-qh6sd
      @NamHoang-qh6sd ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True man, same here i trying everythings posible to get better at aiming and now i'm obsessed

    • @TheMainEvnt601
      @TheMainEvnt601 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NamHoang-qh6sd understand how your brain learns new things. Nero elasticity. You cannot just grind it all day everyday. If you do you will pick up too much muscle memory and not hand eye coordination. You brain does process and actually learn the new info until you sleep fyi. Exercise is also a game changer.

    • @Killfaced
      @Killfaced หลายเดือนก่อน

      lucky for u lol wrist problems brought me here

  • @sathyasubramanian5622
    @sathyasubramanian5622 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I prefer a forward mouse grip with a floating wrist. One thing is that your are not really stabilizing with purely your muscles with this grip. Instead what I and most people with similar grip do is push their mouse into the pad more during flicks (your palm is sitting on the middle of the mouse so it is easier to do this). This increases the normal force and thus the friction creating more stopping power.

  • @val26874
    @val26874 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Couple of things not mentioned about this:
    The base of the palm makes a great "pivot point" for small flicks and adjustments with the wrist.
    This puts the mouse sensor further away from your wrist - which lets you pivot the wrist by less degrees for more mm of sensor movement.

  • @bung0o
    @bung0o ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’d like to add onto what you said as I’ve been obsessed with precise aim for 8 years now:
    If you find that your thumb is, as instructed, placed in like with the feet of your mouse & slightly sinking under, yet you have a high amount of contact with your wrist, try placing your thumb a bit higher up as you would effectively be “adjusting”, like an in game setting, how much friction is suitable for you 💪🏻

    • @igormarzocca7260
      @igormarzocca7260 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You have searched contents of aim a 8 years? I want to go pro in Val you can help me ?

  • @bla_ank
    @bla_ank ปีที่แล้ว +1

    main advantage of float grip is that you don't sweat on the pad. you have a consistent glide every time you play. you are still anchored, but your anchor point shifts from your wrist to your forearm. both grips can be used in conjunction; where float grip is used for broad arm movements, and micro-adjustments are rested grip

    • @IrrationalDelusion
      @IrrationalDelusion ปีที่แล้ว

      Using different grip because of sweat is not the solution. Not sweating, using sleeve, air conditioner are better solutions.

    • @bla_ank
      @bla_ank ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@IrrationalDelusion Sorry, but I struggle to take your opinion seriously when you open with "not sweating" as a possible solution

    • @IrrationalDelusion
      @IrrationalDelusion ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bla_ank Some people take game too seriously and sweat because of their thoughts.

    • @sable4539
      @sable4539 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@IrrationalDelusionBro

  • @dewankiscents
    @dewankiscents ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another thing that i have noticed is that if i do a hovering mousegrip. My mousepad seems consistent and smooth because i have super sweaty hands and in summers, i sweat a lot while just holding my mouse for 2 seconds. So by hovering, my mousepad doesn't get wet and stuff hence being consistent. And if anyone else is trying to hover, reduce you sensitivity so you are using mainly your arm. Hovering style mousegrip is NOT for high sens.

  • @jordankelly4684
    @jordankelly4684 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Me, who doesn't even have a mousepad
    🤔

  • @kennyjunior9209
    @kennyjunior9209 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tracking games like warzone and apex have forced us to float our wrists because it’s better for tracking. The friction from westing your wrist when trying to track against controller players is just to difficult

  • @MarcusChad
    @MarcusChad ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My Grip is a fingertip grip, total contact with ftips only and sometimes wrist floats and sometimes doesn't and slowly I have become consistent with this inconsistent grip haha.

    • @IrrationalDelusion
      @IrrationalDelusion ปีที่แล้ว

      how do you consistently get into seat? Like this is most important consistency factor, the placement of muscle and their support.

  • @RadishHead7
    @RadishHead7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's crazy how twist breaks so many rules but probably has smoothest aim I have ever seen.

  • @smaksauce2672
    @smaksauce2672 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    your descriptions about mouse grip techniques are improving!

    • @StruthGaming
      @StruthGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you :) Glad to hear that.

  • @scavinub2309
    @scavinub2309 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    aight a small but impactful tip
    Make sure every part of your skin right from forearm to lower palm is in contact like the wrist bones should touch mousepad (idk anatomy)

  • @shifty25_
    @shifty25_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just started a floating claw grip about a month or 2 ago, granted I have a low sens, 41 cm/360 with a quicker pad and fast feet. This combo is much nicer for me personally than raising mouse sens and making my mouse pad/feet a little slower. Using my arm and shoulders almost feels much more natural to me than having some of my wrist be on the pad

    • @Zebrahhh
      @Zebrahhh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same

  • @DeViceCrimsin_
    @DeViceCrimsin_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Petroleum oil (like Vaseline) is a cheap quick fix. But will become gross and messy after 1 or 2 sessions (collects debris like hair around the mouse feet and sensor). Works best with direct desk contact. Do NOT use method on mouse pads.

    • @johnford902
      @johnford902 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vaseline where? Hands? Arm? Mouse?

  • @MikeGrau0hr
    @MikeGrau0hr ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great videos! confirming my thoughts and giving new ideas! i started "fingertip skating" because of a video of yours and stopped using my thumb buttons. sending this video linked to a friend of mine who lifts his wrist and rests his arm on his chairs armrest while playing apex x) unfortunately my arguments are weak since he is way more talented than i am.. anyways - thanks for the good content!

  • @ValentineNTT
    @ValentineNTT ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We rollin! Congratulations on 10k subs!
    with this kind of quality 100k is gonna be around the corner soon!

  • @Hybridify
    @Hybridify ปีที่แล้ว +7

    These are the kinds of videos I so hoped I would find when I was trying to learn keyboard and mouse. Basic explanation of fundamental concepts that it takes a lot of trial and error to learn otherwise.
    The gaming community is full of people telling you to just "hold the mouse" and figure it out, and while the simplicity can help with people who greatly overthink things, it also can lead to the development of bad aiming habits by players who don't know any better.
    Hoping these types of videos help out some that are just switching to keyboard and mouse nowadays. Good job!

    • @StruthGaming
      @StruthGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

    • @IrrationalDelusion
      @IrrationalDelusion ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, this advice is golden, didn’t know after 4k+ hours in online FPS shooters!

  • @NethanielBee
    @NethanielBee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Personally I get better accuracy with a claw/fingertip grip rather than a palm grip (I have a model o- wireless & tiny little dwarf hands)

  • @botsim1715
    @botsim1715 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm using a sleeve with a thumb hole. Works best for me

  • @4bangerkovaaks
    @4bangerkovaaks ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video as always!

  • @汪菌洛
    @汪菌洛 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are one thing come across my mind which I found interesting is about the Chinese calligraphy, how they hold their Chinese Brushes sometimes make me wonder if convert it to the position when we grab our mouse sometimes is a bit similar.

  • @ClaptainClips
    @ClaptainClips 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    really great video! I'm still not convinced what the best way to aim is as two of the best CS2 players, donk and zwyoo have a gap between the base of their palms and their mousepads, but it's also true that plenty of pro CS players use the techniques described in your video. I imagine the best technique depends on the individual so it's important to try different techniques and figure out what works best for you.

  • @TheMainEvnt601
    @TheMainEvnt601 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New member!!! You are the only person on the planet that has got m to pay to be member on a TH-cam channel.

    • @StruthGaming
      @StruthGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      That is a great compliment :)

  • @Shian_n
    @Shian_n ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You could use a high pass filter for the audio to remove that low tone hum, anyway its unnecesary for the video content but someone could notice it more idk

    • @StruthGaming
      @StruthGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, i'll try that out.

  • @MrGJr7
    @MrGJr7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are underrated. You should have way more Subs!

    • @StruthGaming
      @StruthGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! Working on it :)

  • @crazytrain03
    @crazytrain03 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While I'm not the best sniper in the world, I find my aim better with just wrist movement aiming, using my pinky as a mouse break. My mouse has a thumb holder so it works good.

  • @fuchsi_arzeus
    @fuchsi_arzeus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    yooooooooo dude you hit 10k!!!

  • @ahuman8711
    @ahuman8711 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hold my mouse like a pencil, which is one side of palm is on the pad while the other one is floating

  • @iamlamprey
    @iamlamprey ปีที่แล้ว +2

    awesome vid as always dude 🥰

  • @triantulas
    @triantulas 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thoughts on those ikea desks where your whole arm can be on the desk

  • @Luboszz
    @Luboszz ปีที่แล้ว

    hello, i have pretty major problem. When i place my arm properly, with elbow off the desk, my forearm automatically goes up, and i cant make the contact between wrist and desk...

  • @gerbilpmc
    @gerbilpmc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My issue is too much pressure on my palm. Would getting taller mouse skates be a good idea? That would expose less of my palm to the mousepad and relieve pressure. Or a soft mousepad could work.

  • @JenyaIsJustChilling
    @JenyaIsJustChilling ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude filter (cut) everything below 90Hz with EQ, your mic pics up all vibration from your PC.

    • @StruthGaming
      @StruthGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the tip, i'll try that out.

  • @bryant475
    @bryant475 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting video! My mouse pad is towards the edge of the desk, and it has a gel wrist pad, so I mostly just keep my wrist on it and move the mouse mainly with my wrist, not my whole arm (also my sens is pretty high so I don't have to move the mouse much)

  • @PurrkourCat
    @PurrkourCat ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How did you learn all of these? Trial and error?

    • @StruthGaming
      @StruthGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      Basically just trying out every technique and variation, assessing performance in-game and in aim trainers. Keeping track of how they feel, what feels good, bad, how slight changes impact that feel and performance. Trying them on all sorts of different mice, mousepads, postures etc.
      Researching what other players do, their weak points, strengths etc.
      Being involved in aim trainers basically from their inception had me thinking about and testing this stuff regularly for years.

    • @PurrkourCat
      @PurrkourCat ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@StruthGaming Very unique! defiantly something nobody but you do!! :D

  • @mygrains5013
    @mygrains5013 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Idk man, I play on a high sens so I don't have to flick my arm across my desk, makes things easier imo.

  • @Hoggins
    @Hoggins ปีที่แล้ว +1

  • @YoRHaUnit2Babe
    @YoRHaUnit2Babe ปีที่แล้ว

    me enjoying low friction Otsu

  • @dex-andre8971
    @dex-andre8971 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Out of curiosity, what hand size do you have? Planning to get a dav3 pro and ill use your hands as reference

  • @something990
    @something990 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro has huge hands

  • @cr4mbo
    @cr4mbo ปีที่แล้ว

    i have never struggled with stopping power or anything like that and i float my wrist with a skypad

  • @crxxpxer6239
    @crxxpxer6239 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you sure I sacrifice control? I lift my wrist for control

  • @finity9316
    @finity9316 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My wrist isn’t exactly horizontal I feel partially my right wrist bone that circle part that sticks out touch on the table and puts it at a bit of an angle is this normal ?

    • @StruthGaming
      @StruthGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah that's normal, mine does the same.

  • @Time_-x
    @Time_-x ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you think it’s alright if only the bone on the pinky side of the palm is in contact? It’s very uncomfortable for me to actually rotate my palm inward whilst aiming for some reason which leads to tension

    • @ss-xc4gh
      @ss-xc4gh ปีที่แล้ว

      did you find a solution for this?

    • @JustRap1d
      @JustRap1d 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have the same problem, did you ever fix this?

    • @owlfury-beast
      @owlfury-beast 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JustRap1danswering to both you and OP. It’s more than alright. Rotating inward (going flat palm) is actually not very ergonomic. Also note that the forearm rotation changes naturally based on how open your shoulder position is.
      Also your range of motion for flicks left is compromised a bit when you go full flat palm (at least for me). Basically it’s all good. Just make sure nothing hurts and you can do both wrist and elbow movements freely. Rest will polish with a lot of practice 🌚

  • @reuf9832
    @reuf9832 ปีที่แล้ว

    Siempre tuve la misma duda y nunca le pregunté, ¿Cómo usaría una persona obesa los brazos en el escritorio?

  • @januarrevandi7646
    @januarrevandi7646 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hey, i just see your headshot only training...
    any chance you will try headshot only method but wingman only? 😁

    • @StruthGaming
      @StruthGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      I already do that :) With most semi auto or single fire weapons I aim for headshots most of the time.

    • @januarrevandi7646
      @januarrevandi7646 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StruthGaming i mean, the content of headshot only clip, like the asmr tracking shot like before

  • @yumirasu
    @yumirasu ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't know if you have any knowledge regarding this, but there seems to be something strange about my right arm. My right arm cannot lay flat on a flat surface like a mousepad at all (not a problem at all for my left arm). My forearm flexors in a sense feel kinda tense / tight and my wrist starts floating subconsciously despite it being uncomfortable. Any ideas on what this could be? It's worth mentioning that my right arm wrist has significantly worse extension mobility (maybe 60° ish), but my left wrist can extend 90°. This problem is making MnK very uncomfortable for me.

    • @mariostiven5532
      @mariostiven5532 ปีที่แล้ว

      i know this might be late but you might need to check that out because, assuming you don't have a bone deformity, this could be nerve damage

  • @andreassalbach5039
    @andreassalbach5039 ปีที่แล้ว

    By "dynamically adjusting your own friction" do you mean to use my palm to make more friction if needed and vice versa?

    • @nicholassichau7582
      @nicholassichau7582 ปีที่แล้ว

      What he means is that you can use the opposing side pressures generated by your thumb on one side and your pinky (and often ring finger as well) on the other side and use this inward pressure on the mouse in order to actually lift it very slightly to take some of the weight off it. For me, I struggle with shaky aim or "skipping," so sometimes lifting the mouse slightly can help smooth out the movement when needed.

  • @zan6585
    @zan6585 ปีที่แล้ว

    what chair are you using?

  • @theoutstander6620
    @theoutstander6620 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep it up❤

  • @dumbbuffoon7240
    @dumbbuffoon7240 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this your new mouse?

    • @StruthGaming
      @StruthGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah, still maining the G303 SE, just been using the Razer mice in some ergonomic videos because more people can relate to the shapes.

    • @dumbbuffoon7240
      @dumbbuffoon7240 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StruthGaming ahh I use gpro wireless not the superlight the if version you should put some tiger ice skates on your mouse

  • @utrunks7622
    @utrunks7622 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive ainrd wiut my wrist for a while now

  • @weatefood
    @weatefood ปีที่แล้ว

    i saw this video a week a go and lost and have been looking for it cause i wants the claw mate mod but idk if it’ll work on my g502x

  • @vishprob2714
    @vishprob2714 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    do you use toggle aim or hold aim?

  • @Ilovejesuschrist012
    @Ilovejesuschrist012 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this apply to pincer claw grip? 2:55

  • @rodrigogirao8344
    @rodrigogirao8344 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here's another solution: put the mouse aside and get a good trackball.

  • @NineLives9
    @NineLives9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you ever play on Skypad?

    • @AIMIMPROVE-ig6rl
      @AIMIMPROVE-ig6rl ปีที่แล้ว

      best mousepad ive ever owned. no hassle cleaning (cat hairs), it even gives me more room for my desk. glide is consistent, tracking has become better, but a sleeve is a must. no negotiating
      you can also remove the paint from below the pad and add your own design. no it wont ruin it. the pad has two sides.
      i believe the money is worth it. its really strong, ive tested it dropping from 190m.

    • @ACE112ACE112
      @ACE112ACE112 ปีที่แล้ว

      there are some other glass mousepads like the pulsar superglide glass mousepad and razer

    • @NineLives9
      @NineLives9 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AIMIMPROVE-ig6rl Yeah I have a skypad 2.0 myself, I've had for about a year, I also love it, especially for that smooth effortless tracking. Oddly I have never needed a sleeve for it, I bought one, but have never had problems with my arm sticking to the glass and I live Australia which is known for being a very humid climate

    • @StruthGaming
      @StruthGaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have one, but it's almost always too humid where I live to use it. Most of the time my skin sticks and rolls on the glass which is too disruptive.
      We're moving into winter so on lower humidity days i'd like to spend some more time on it.

    • @NineLives9
      @NineLives9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@StruthGaming oh yeah fair enough, I'm on the coast of NSW myself so I suppose the humidity isn't too bad here, compared to up north. Also just want to say man, you make great content, few people give such good and correct information about improving aim, your content is very high quality and professional, best "aim coach" style TH-camr out in my opinion, keep it up dude

  • @bloodbeats
    @bloodbeats ปีที่แล้ว

    Who else washes their hands before gaming?

  • @SergeyVR
    @SergeyVR ปีที่แล้ว

    But ur sensor position with this grip is biased

  • @hypertrinity7440
    @hypertrinity7440 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Zywoo & stewie2k also play with floating wrists

  • @el_mexicano6311
    @el_mexicano6311 ปีที่แล้ว

    When am trying to aim on a control my kid tell’s me y r u all over

  • @Sunderpun1
    @Sunderpun1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I dont get, if you move that part of your palm forward enough then its resting on the back end of the mouse. Its not floating.

  • @hypertrinity7440
    @hypertrinity7440 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My vertical aim suffers immensely when I leave my wrist planted. I keep my wrist floating just a little bit.

    • @StruthGaming
      @StruthGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Having contact but taking some of the weight off is the best of both worlds imo.

  • @handsomeassassin
    @handsomeassassin ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you my handsome brother I have learned lots of things from you you are master of aiming 🔥

    • @StruthGaming
      @StruthGaming  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you handsome assassin!

    • @handsomeassassin
      @handsomeassassin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@StruthGaming you are welcome always

  • @HotdogSosage
    @HotdogSosage ปีที่แล้ว

    I dunno man. It sounds mega unhealthy to permanently use and muscle like that.
    Maybe I'm biased because the years have destroyed my right arm but... Still

  • @MattyCakez18
    @MattyCakez18 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, if I'm wearing a gaming sleeve.... Put me out of my f**** misery

    • @NexY92
      @NexY92 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @JessicaFEREM
    @JessicaFEREM ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for tricking gamers into basic hygiene :p

  • @peekright1299
    @peekright1299 ปีที่แล้ว

    💙

  • @Nightikzzz
    @Nightikzzz หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if i have gf?