Wonderful pieces of the " real " work. I m so happy to see this stuff. I wonder why the rights to fill this amazing documentary with moving images are so hard to get. Industry, productions and distributors should be so happy to be part in this.
It just goes to show that the movie miniatures that get talked about the most are the obvious ones. Having re-watched Darkman in only the last year or two, I can attest that there's a lot of work in there that is virtually seamless. It's a testament I guess to the combined creative powers of artists like Viskocil, Raimi, and the Skotaks.
The only weak point back in the day is when they tried to composite live actors on top of background plates of the miniature SFX. It didn't look good then and it certainly hasn't aged well. The only parts in the Darkman helicopter stuff that doesn't work is when they cut to obvious composite blue screen close ups of the Darkman character. Similarly in Tremors, the only shot that always stood out as looking lame was when they tried to composite the actors in the foreground, shooting at the tremor creatures in the background. Those shots just always stood out like a sore thumb. Leave the miniature shots alone!!! When you are flying around in the black void of space, it's pretty forgiving, you can composite as many layers as you want on top of each other and it will probably work... But in the real world, it just stands out... the lighting is never quite right... the perspective is never quite right... it's one technique from back in the day that they should have used far less.
Absolutely amazing craftsmanship all around. The detail is so spot-on and authentic looking that it blows your mind. And the shots featuring crew in the shots along side the miniatures kind of mess with your head a bit (in a good way). Also loved the deep dive into all of the helicopter effects work. Just astounding stuff!
I remember being amazed at shots in Famous Monsters of Tom Scherman building Wang's castle out cardboard and discarded household items for Flesh Gordon. He was obviously a Master of Cardboard!
OK, I had to go watch the Java Cafe scene. All that work for a few glorious seconds on camera and the actress stand-in was less that 2 seconds. That said...BRAVO!
I really love those videos from the documentary, but there’s often _parasites_ noises in sound, like mic scratching or like pen writing on a cardboard pad... not on each shots but a lot of them. Anyway, I enjoy looking each of them.
I just watched a clip of the Cafe explosion... it reminded me of what I thought was weird. The girl's body was shaking around during the explosion. And it didn't stand out because you just kinda assume that she's getting all shook up from the MASSIVE EXPLOSION... then they cut to her and she seems like she's 300 feet away from it. Looking at how they did the effect - it's now obvious that the mirror was just shaking around. During filming, they had her walk from the passenger side of the taxi to the front of the building. So they obviously already established the general area that she would be when the explosion occurred. They really should have AT LEAST had her looking MUCH MORE upwards towards the explosion on the second floor. But really, an explosion that close to a person would have them blocking and ducking away. Again - the cutaway makes it seem like she was at the closest - across the street. Who am I talk to?
There might be more DVD´s available soon. I am posting the entire doc here on TH-cam and on the Facebook page. FREE! Many more extended and new segments coming up!
piercefilm productions great! I wasn’t sure if you were posting everything from the dvd. Hey- I directed a movie that came out in 2018 called Sorry To Bother You. The next feature I’m doing will have a lot of miniature work and while I have some folks I’m working with on it, I’m trying to get in touch with whatever old school folks I can to consult. I’d love to pick your brain about who of these folks I could talk to. I’ll DM you on Facebook as there doesn’t seem to be a way to do it here.
@@bootsriley5372 Sounds cool! You should contact Fon Davis at Fonco in L.A. Former ILM model maker. His team can make anything. And maybe Ian Hunter at New Deal Studios. There are many other model makers in America I can introduce you to that might be interested in doing miniature work.
![เป็นไปได้ไหม - WanMai [Performance Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Eh5hItD4Mr0/mqdefault.jpg)
You'd have never thought the helicopter stuff was miniature. So well done and lives up today even after 30 years.
It was done this way for pretty obvious reasons. Crew safety and cost.
Wonderful pieces of the " real " work. I m so happy to see this stuff. I wonder why the rights to fill this amazing documentary with moving images are so hard to get. Industry, productions and distributors should be so happy to be part in this.
It just goes to show that the movie miniatures that get talked about the most are the obvious ones.
Having re-watched Darkman in only the last year or two, I can attest that there's a lot of work in there that is virtually seamless.
It's a testament I guess to the combined creative powers of artists like Viskocil, Raimi, and the Skotaks.
The only weak point back in the day is when they tried to composite live actors on top of background plates of the miniature SFX. It didn't look good then and it certainly hasn't aged well. The only parts in the Darkman helicopter stuff that doesn't work is when they cut to obvious composite blue screen close ups of the Darkman character. Similarly in Tremors, the only shot that always stood out as looking lame was when they tried to composite the actors in the foreground, shooting at the tremor creatures in the background. Those shots just always stood out like a sore thumb. Leave the miniature shots alone!!!
When you are flying around in the black void of space, it's pretty forgiving, you can composite as many layers as you want on top of each other and it will probably work... But in the real world, it just stands out... the lighting is never quite right... the perspective is never quite right... it's one technique from back in the day that they should have used far less.
Darkman is still awesome to this day. Great Movie. A Cult Classic.
Absolutely amazing craftsmanship all around. The detail is so spot-on and authentic looking that it blows your mind. And the shots featuring crew in the shots along side the miniatures kind of mess with your head a bit (in a good way).
Also loved the deep dive into all of the helicopter effects work. Just astounding stuff!
This is amazing, so much work behind the movies and people dont even know about it. This channel is great.
Thanks for watching! More coming soon.
I love that last fella's (Tony?) sense of humour. Looks like he was a great guy to talk to!
I remember being amazed at shots in Famous Monsters of Tom Scherman building Wang's castle out cardboard and discarded household items for Flesh Gordon. He was obviously a Master of Cardboard!
I feel like it's a rare event when a movie wraps under budget and the producers are like 'Oh cool let's put it towards more special effects!'
Another great behind the scenes video about a great film!!!! Thanks!!!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you so very much for putting this piece together.
More segments coming soon!
Superb - thanks for collating this incredible resource.
Thanks for watching. More coming up soon.
特撮に関わった人たちって、みんな、その苦労話を本当に「楽しそうに」話しますよねえ！
私はそんな特撮マン、彼らが大好きです！！！
OK, I had to go watch the Java Cafe scene. All that work for a few glorious seconds on camera and the actress stand-in was less that 2 seconds. That said...BRAVO!
That old dude at the end if this is hilarious. I love his laughter and probably would have cool to work with on set lol
That's Tony Doublin. Great guy!
Love this series, wish they had the budget to show the shots they are talking about, as final result
You can watch all the scenes on TH-cam. People have uploaded most scenes. th-cam.com/video/kk1gWp0U5B8/w-d-xo.html
@@piercefilm nice, thanks!
Miniature FX theme song should be Starship "We Built This City"
Interesting, Darkmans not a film I ever gave thought too using miniatures.
I really love those videos from the documentary, but there’s often _parasites_ noises in sound, like mic scratching or like pen writing on a cardboard pad... not on each shots but a lot of them. Anyway, I enjoy looking each of them.
The mic touched the clothes sometimes. I did these interviews alone. No budget.
@@piercefilm well, anyway it’s a huge work! I’d like to see the whole documentary but can’t find how to access it.
I just watched a clip of the Cafe explosion... it reminded me of what I thought was weird. The girl's body was shaking around during the explosion. And it didn't stand out because you just kinda assume that she's getting all shook up from the MASSIVE EXPLOSION... then they cut to her and she seems like she's 300 feet away from it.
Looking at how they did the effect - it's now obvious that the mirror was just shaking around. During filming, they had her walk from the passenger side of the taxi to the front of the building. So they obviously already established the general area that she would be when the explosion occurred.
They really should have AT LEAST had her looking MUCH MORE upwards towards the explosion on the second floor. But really, an explosion that close to a person would have them blocking and ducking away. Again - the cutaway makes it seem like she was at the closest - across the street.
Who am I talk to?
Where do they find these 1/4 scale cars? How do you just make a car?
Usually you carve a wood or foam shape, then vacu-form a plastic shell from that.
What's interesting is to mimic how a real vehicle would behave on the road. Especially the acceleration and suspensions.
I thought those were some ZAAT! masks behind him @01:26 ... the definitely arent.
Vomit cam...😂😂😂 that was some funny shit....
How can I see Sense Of Scale?
It’s out of stock on Amazon.
There might be more DVD´s available soon. I am posting the entire doc here on TH-cam and on the Facebook page. FREE! Many more extended and new segments coming up!
piercefilm productions great! I wasn’t sure if you were posting everything from the dvd. Hey- I directed a movie that came out in 2018 called Sorry To Bother You. The next feature I’m doing will have a lot of miniature work and while I have some folks I’m working with on it, I’m trying to get in touch with whatever old school folks I can to consult. I’d love to pick your brain about who of these folks I could talk to. I’ll DM you on Facebook as there doesn’t seem to be a way to do it here.
@@bootsriley5372 Sounds cool! You should contact Fon Davis at Fonco in L.A. Former ILM model maker. His team can make anything. And maybe Ian Hunter at New Deal Studios. There are many other model makers in America I can introduce you to that might be interested in doing miniature work.
2:40 Was that a miniature ??
No, that's the real location. The photo right after (with the water in front) was a miniature.
Robert Skotak sounds like George Lucas, inflection and all.
Whats he been smoking that day? The old chap is hilarious.
Tony Doublin is just a funny, great story teller with a million stories about Hollywood.
whatever happens to all the stuff?
Some miniatures are sold at auctions or through Propstore etc. Most are trashed after production unless someone from the crew saves them from the bin.