Pokemon Unite Just Did The Unthinkable... THEY FIXED MATCHMAKING
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did we all die and end up in the same heaven?
is this the 70% timeline?
Might be 😭
Seems like it
Yes we DO! No more easy-free-exp enemies makes watching streamers a lot more enjoyable! Players have to work better to reach 1500+
Very happy for you and I
It feels like non-changes. You still you can easly get to Master 1400 with 50% win rate (or lower), it just take more games. If you have ~50% won rate it means that you are at your skill level, and you should not climb if you dont play better.
We need bronze hell for those shitty players. Make people stay in veteran, ultra. Not everyone should be in master.
I'd rather wait 1 and a half minute if that means I get to battle with decent teammates more often rather than just waiting 15 seconds just to get paired with slick spoon decidueye
Been saying this since launch. I can't believe change is finally coming 😅
Dang😂
DWEET DWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Your comment made me choke on my coffee 😂
@@DAMastAGamA Comfey* 😂
This is cool.
Totally separate topic, I feel like displaying player deaths in match stats will help educate players more about the game
yeah i feel like it isnt acknowledged as much, it'll help with improvement and I feel like it'll humble some toxic teammates loool
I will suffer because i mostly play defenders and very often jump in 3 teammates to save my carry if the carry is a good player
I don't think so. It would only encourage more toxicity
@@Zen_Phantom a good team wants to have their defender have more deaths than their carries. It's a badge of honor as long as you're peeling for your team and not just feeding.
@@Zen_Phantom 😅 same here, some players take attackers then don't even attack or runaway.
I don't think just the matchmaking system should be updated; the ban and reporting system should be as well. It is unbelievable that I was forced to play three games in a row with someone I have reported about 100 times because all he/she does is sabotage the match.
I’m calling cap. You can report block so really it’s your fault or you’re just lying
That’s cap
That's on u
@@KodexKatwhat are you talking about??? Even if you report and block you can still end up in the same team repeatedly 🤨. The only way to prevent that is to check “recent teammates” and see if theyre already in a match. Or worse, add as a friend to keep an eye on them.
Proof is in the fact that I go to block players after a match and theyre already BLOCKED or they have such a bad rep that i recognize their name and dont even play the first minute so everyone surrenders and willing lose fairplay points because i refuse to play with them. Make it make sense…
@@kingtoon1182no its not, ask CrisHeroes about COLA who he has repeatedly posted videos about AND reported for sabotage.
From now on you'll always be paired with goal getter gengar and potion decidueye
well at least no we have the chance to get away from those losers by winning and keeping our ratings away from them
Yes... if you're a Scope Lens Gardivoir...
Me and my muscle band comfey will be just fine with that
I love yall😂
Potion deciduye got me laughing
Imagine waiting 2-15 minutes for a match, going through all of draft, all for an AFK
Definitely needs harsher penalties for afk/trolls and better rewards for fair play
@ oh may Timi hear your sweet words
I'm good waiting 2 min for no more last pick speedsters
The chance of u getting that afk is not as much right now tho as its usually the low mmr teammate that’s the one afk (assuming u know the game)
They need to have immediate matchmaking bans. If you obviously afk in Rocket League you get banned for 5 minutes (length of 1 match) for the first offense.
The initial penalty should be a 10 minute ban for Unite and increase from there, not some useless fair play system they have now@@Insanity042
I'd love to see a change that meant blocked players can't be on your team. I'd actually prefer that over this master rank change.
me too. I will literally block all player who goes to goal at the 2 min mark instead of preparing for mid.
People would abuse that to be paired and carried by the best players
@@ixis6920 The block list isn't infinite, and other players getting good teammates won't necessarily harm your own games, if they blocked you.
I need this, I don't wanna be with teammates that I blocked.
Agreed, and make the block list longer. “You cannot block anymore players” is annoying I have to unblock 5-10 people a day just to add the new ones 😅.
Regarding the matchmaking wait time, I am totally okay with waiting a couple minutes for a better match, but I’m worried they will expand the search to other servers and bring in terrible ping. Even now I will remove myself from the queue and rejoin after 30s because I’ve noticed that I end up jumping from NA to Asian servers and it’s just impossible to play those games.
I’d really like if they also made it an option to restrict how far it looks for other servers when “expanding matchmaking parameters” even if it’s at the cost of longer wait times
I'm on the west coast and still get crazy lag on those servers. I wish u could actually block players but hopefully we won't need to if we can get better teammates.
Personally, I got 1600 master every season for the last 10 seasons but stopped playing because it's fun losing if playing a good game with even teams, but playing a 1v5 with my whole team not even present was just boring.
Id rather lose a game where both teams are good than winning a game after securing ray with teammates thanks pining others and throwing themselves at enemies
@sierrablue2206 THIS.... I rather have a good game to lose at than to feel that I have to play to the point where it feels like a 2 vs 5
Switching from a star-based ranking system to a points-based system would be an excellent improvement.
Proposed Point Ranges:
Beginner: 0-199 points
Great: 200-399 points
Expert: 400-599 points
Veteran: 600-799 points
Ultra: 800-999 points
Master: 1000-1200 points
Points would be earned not only for wins but also based on individual performance metrics, such as achieving MVP status, high assists, goals scored, or significant damage dealt.
Even in a losing match, players could still earn points based on their contributions, ensuring their efforts are recognized.
This system offers a smoother progression, rewards consistent individual performance, and reduces the frustration of being demoted due to losing streaks, especially when a player's performance during matches has been strong.
Might have to be very careful with a system like that though. Even the current rank preservation points are mostly awarded based on points scored (which is hurt by teams surrendering after ray/zap), farm secured, and other metrics that encourage avoiding team fights and backcapping, MVP included.
I like the idea but they would need a much better definition of "good gameplay and team habits" before they could make that work I feel.
tl;dr: Cool idea but I don't trust them to award those points properly.
CrisHeroes' best friend COLA might be in trouble now..
Fr it means I’m not gonna have to deal with trolling Crustle and trash zoroark players in my team.
Real
If I no longer get a bot game 3/5 matches when i play ranked, I might actually play this game again lol
You probably still will, game is a joke
This is massive, I wonder if they'll fix ranks under Master after this. Regardless I really hope they keep this change.
Let's wait. (Played honor of kings longer than this)
@@Belesprit656 it feels worse if anything
I HAVE BEEN PRAYING FOR TIMES LIKE THIS!🙏
RHYMES LIKE THIS
YouknowhowlongI'vebeenwaitingforthis? 😆
Saw the title and clicked faster than my team arriving to zaptos
Zapdos? I don't think this video will give u anything if ur still arriving at zapdos
Bro's still stuck in Remoat Stadium
Remoat Stadium was the better map anyways lol. Rayquaza is a more unfair Zapdos.
I think Zapdos is a lot more unfair.
Zapdos gives you immediate scoring, whereas with ray you actually have a chance to stop them.
And in terms of map design sky arena is just vastly better. @@80sForever29
True my team always arrives after the Zapdos/Rayquaza fight is finished
If i had a penny for every time the pokemon unite devs said "we fixed matchmaking FOR REAL THIS TIME", i would have two pennies, which isn't much but it's weird it happened twice
Now please remove bot matches so it doesn't bias the actual winrate of some players
On paper it sounds nice but let's see how this is actually added to the game first before we judge it.
I think folks are mostly just excited that they're actually listening to feedback and making an attempt. Of course it won't be perfect but at least we can have some confidence in them fixing future issues and actually keeping an eye on this system
@Jesse-lv2yo excited is fine but i am just setting a more less neutral perspective because I do not truly believe matchmaking is FIXED until it happens. Plus spragels is a caster for pokemon unite so he will definitely be more biased to support his employer
@@darkling5780 yeah same. matchmaking is not something easy to fix or is possible to be fixed... Cuz its the whole part of the game's engine
Something this big needs a full rewriting the code
Like league even tried these types of "Fixing Rank Match" but after its just the same
Finally!!! It especially sucks when you're a higer rank player and then suddenly the game matches you with multiple new baby players while you're up against pro players... Like how is that even fair??? Already saw the loss coming before the battle even started, or else you'd have to carry the game like crazyyyy.
today i got paired with a veteran rank gengar that somehow had miraidon and only had two item slots
@@yummynoodles_ Baby players 👶 🍼
Finally... i won't get paired with 40% winrate people while carrying consistently since launch with a 65% win rate each season
64% win rate here and 9/10 of my matches are scrubs while our opponents are god level players who work as a team and 5 on 1 each goal
@@ericdavisii3912 HOW YALL GET SUCH GOOD WINRATES 😭😭😭😭
@@ericdavisii3912yep! I’ve been trying so hard to keep my rank up, but I get paired with low 40/50%. My WR is screaming for a lifeline.
Not even me?
i used to have a solid 60% winrate, then it kept matching me with dummies and its dropped all the way to like 58% until i had enough and just stopped playing. i hope this matchmaking fix will solve all of our problems and make this aspect of the game actually fun again
I'll believe it when I see it
OMG WHAT?! They FINALLY fixed Matchmaking? It's about time!
only took 24 seasons...
Been playing unite since day one. There has NEVER been an update that wasn't bugged! Timi will fumble hard on this one! AGAIN
AGAIN!
This also means griefers and trolls will stay at the bottom of the pool and you should avoid them when reaching 1400+
Does that mean we can never play together again 😢💔
This was the main thing I would add in their surveys. Matchmaking made this a pretty miserable experience most of the time. I hope this helps fix it!
This is so amazing, i feel like this last month or two has been so difficult with matchmaking
in terms of wait times i would say 5 minutes for a 10min game is definitely too long, but 1 minute is definitely short enough, so the line is somewhere in there... I think my upper limit would probably be like 2:30-3 minutes, somewhere in there. I think anything 3 minutes or above is probably unreasonable for most people...
Agreed, this would be a good balance. Also don't default wait time to friggin bot matches, please. There's a whole mode for that.
I jumped when I read the video title
its incredible that they are addressing one of the biggest problems with this game
FINALLY
Stay skeptical than fully believing it buddy
NO WAY THIS TITLE IS FOR REAL
I have noticed that they recognize if someone went afk and make sure you don’t get a rank decrease
I hope they give -20 instead of -10 when you report an afk, that is how players will be careful
@@dhruvilkumpavat6037 But don't they already get -10 for each report? Like, all 4 report AFK, adding up to -40. (Or am I just imagining things?)
@@WillowLeeX It's only -10 per game only, the game is quite forgiving towards afk players and reporting grifters does nothing to them, they need to improve on that too.
@Valter_David just give these players a daily ban punishment then I will feel better.
@Zero-3E Not always unfortunately. The game doesn't have a way to pick up every instance even when it's blatant/obvious. A player afk 90% of the game, a Snorlax trolling and sleeping in the enemy base, or a 0dmg/healing player can still not receive any penalty at all.
Ngl im glad they're adding this but this should've been in two years ago. And the rank rewards need to improve cause as competitive as we wanna be, the juice should be worth the squeeze.
Adding a rank exclusive holowear or clothes that actually aren't the same outfit with a different color on the color wheel would be much appreciated.
WHATTTT IS THE HEAVENS AND THE UNDERWORLD TURNED UPSIDE DOWN???
I hope this gets implemented in the Veteran and Ultra ranks as well. I've had countless games where I was 1-2 games away from Masters and I get paired with 3 leftover attackers. Just made it to Masters with a few days left to spare this season.
So far it will be only be for masters, the website says the changes are non-applicable to the ranks bellow.
Hopefully it is fixed I'm getting tired of being stuck at ultra for the past months Dx only went to master rank once not to mention I hate players giving up during the match because they couldn't beat the opponent team
Personally feel like bots is more of a problem than anything. I played 6 games today and 5 of them were bots…..
Right, but what about Ultra matchmaking? It's a pain to get to Masters every season
Ikr
noob
I am completely certain they never had a hidden MMR system set in place AT ALL, I had players with negative WR and less than 300 games be first pick ffs
Ugh. Finally
Literally every game today the avg win rate of my teammates was 47%
Tired of every match being a 50/50 coin flip at ray.
7:40 High elo players troll hard, too. Sometimes even harder than ultra rank and 1200 elo.
Tho the change sounds good . A punishment time-out system is what we need to deal with these players.
Yes this. Once I get to 1400s I see more trolls than at 1200s
Can confirm this. Those people once they get their season sticker they go full troll mode and ruin matches for others :/
Some of these high elo player are CARRIED BY 5 STACK which I believe us is BS. if you play 5 stack, you should never be allowed to solo q ever
The thing is, it's because you don't get punished. But it seems if you lose you actually lose more points. Will it change every troll or griefer? No. But hopefully a few more people will be like oh- I need to function.
@@darkling5780yes they are I see a lot of fillers higher wr than me and play like donkeys it’s unreal what I’m seeing on the battle field sometimes
Oh my god I thought the title was clickbait
MATCHMAKING IS NEVER GOING TO BE FIXED... I am literally ultra 5 and matching against an opponent team of 3 master rank... same level my ass
My WHOLE TEAM IS ULTRA 4 AND 5 VS ULTRA 3, 2 AND MASTERS...HOW IS THIS FAIR
I wish I got masters I keep getting fcking level 30 veterans on my team vs players with over 5000 games I have 6500 ranked games myself 54% wr which is pretty high for this game these games are just so much than its ever been, you're extremely lucky to only be getting master players
@weeniehutjr.3152 I am in the same situation as you... I been fighting against the masters people as ultra 5...
I don't see how this helps really. The main issue is the slick spoon/rocky helm decidueye players even getting into master rank to begin with. The number of points you get on a win or loss isn't the problem, it's the fact that you can be afk but on a winning team and get the same rank as the dude who carried the team to a win. Why does personal performance not factor in at all?
That’s literally just not true. AFK lowers your points and sometimes just doesn’t give you any.
I think you played these games long enough to be familiar with "Fix Matchmaking" and barely does anything impactful after the change
Take a look at DOTA 2 and LOL
Their ranking often changed but actually doesn't do anything at all
Right after the community post on it!
Been saying this forever now, but this ranked system has been meaningless and an absolute joke since the release of the game. This is a huge step in the right direction, here's hoping they follow through.
I have been seeing a lot of uneven matches when it comes to me playing UNITE. Sometimes I get dominated by teams and I can’t even touch some of the Pokemon. Clearly, they seem to have issues with matchmaking. I had my ass handed to me like 4-5 battles in a row but then I end up winning the next one. So weird how this system works. Uneven matchmaking seems to be happening here. Unless I am just that terrible of a player? In which I don’t think I am. But, anyone else seeing these issues as well?
@@ShawnTXDFW the system feels worse... I will take bot matches before I play with another god damn trio
@@darkling5780 I appreciate the reply. It’s pretty annoying really. I’ve been able to reach Master for like the past 2-3 seasons, and yet this season seems damn near impossible. I keep going back and forth, only to keep getting pushed back over and over again in which seems like a damn near constant struggle. I don’t know why it’s so hard this time. But, it’s definitely different! And hella’ irritating to say the least! 😡
@ShawnTXDFW it is very annoying and I was one of the few people who was skeptical of these changes because I do not trust timi will actually do it and it feels worse...
I quit the game just because I kept being paired with shooty teammates and trolls… I think I’ll start playing again.
I never thought that filling out those surveys would actually make a difference. Wow.
Damn, gotta work my ass off now for a damn sticker...
If they change the rewards I'd be happy, but otherwise it's just more work for something I'd prefer to invest less time into already and that could be better used elsewhere in terms of efficiency
I didnt expect this, a step in the right direction.
I'm SO GLAD they took out the loss streaks negatively affecting you. You'd end up with a lot of good players being on long loss streaks and getting matched with bad players, but since only one team can win and the low MMR players would rip ray every time, it was a 50/50 to win.
No way.... FINALLY 😭😭😭😭😭
"Please don't hesitate to share your thoughts with us...."
WHERE?? WHERE DO WE DO THAT
Yeah where can I vent my frustration of this game and it's terrible matchmaking because it's not even fair at this point
On the flip side: I’m one of the 46% WR people. I call myself a perpetual beginner because I don’t have the dexterity needed for this game. It’s very frustrating being matched with high ranked players and I’m glad I might be able to increase my win rate towards 50% now, assuming that I get matched in a lobby with 10 46% WR players
If you lack the reflex, then the best thing to do is probably to switch over to a defender. Even all-rounders can still be too squishy at times. Don't be afraid to add defensive items instead, if you still find yourself being too squishy. (But understandable, if you want to focus on playing your favorite pokemon instead.)
@ thanks but all I do is play Blastoise. I keep missing my surf and aiming at nothing lol
@@addictedtovideos6756 Ah, yes. When I play Blastoise, I go for the Rapid Spin+Water Spout build. The truth is my reflex also isn't the best. Can give that a try-- Even if surf might be "better", you're still a functioning defender and bruiser.
@@addictedtovideos6756 I should be above 50 win rate but players like you who don't understand the game is the reason I'm only at 49 percent.
Or maybe that could be a skill issue from you, who knows@@MasterGreg-d6k
Impatient ppl who leaves the matchmaking after 40 seconds will cause problems
Well those are also the people that ragequit and afk 2 minutes in when their surrender fails. Let them leave honestly
How does this help with people who have bad ethics such as back capping, trolling, and helping opponents
They’ve never changed matchmaking ever in this game this is HUGE
As an Exclusively Solo Grinder the pain of going 1600 was quite bad, will have to see what happens next. Tend to get players in my team with ~100 total matches and barely 1200+ rating.
As an EU player I can report I’m already consistently sent to play in Japanese servers (and probably NA too I guess) when there aren’t enough european players online, for instance early in the morning like at 6am.
So Timi might also do that more, as long as lengthening wait time.
I usually don’t mind but there are times when the lag is unbearable and I don’t even have a way to let teammates know
6AM in EU is around noon for Japan, and late night for NA. When I first played (when the game was really new), I, from SEA, was able to play with friends from Germany and US without noticeable lag... and it's no longer the case for a very long time lol. I just want to say they probably could have had a smooth cross-region experience... but in the end choose not to (due to budget, maybe).
So a solo queue player who is really good will most likely get stuck with trios and duos…I’m ready
this might actually make me come back to the game omg
edit: i just remembered - only if they fix inherent balance issues with legendaries being “leaders” or whatever they said. Basically for gameplay health, legendaries should not be any different numbers (or arguably design-) wise in battle
What about veteran and ultra ranks? Why is there no mention of those whatsoever?
There is a bug - Master ranking after 1400 points, only +8 points for each game instead of +9
My matchmaking wait time averages about 2 minutes. If waiting a little bit longer means a better Calibre of player is joining me in battle then I'm cool with that.
Matchmaking que is already extremely long for me a lot of times (especially on win streaks), so I doubt it can get worse. Even then in 99% of those games before, it just scrounges up whoever it can where those players will have significantly lower ranking and games played, and/or que into an overseas game. Now at least in theory more players should be relative in rating, etc
They need to make it where if you call a lane (like jungle) you are the only one able to damage the jungle Pokemon and gain experience from it. So you can't have teammates troll your lanes or jungle, stealing farm and screwing up your TEAMS early game.
So since that leftovers cinder picked exp share and leftovers and scope lens picked central as gengar I can't go there? Trash change imo so I don't like the thought of that.
It's a christmas miracle u guys
It kinda sounds like they made the master rank points into the new MMR, which imo should have always been the case (or the other way around, just show us the numbers)
I love that they are doing this!! Please please let it be received well so it can become the standard for this genre of game
I'd rather the app leave the store then be lied to again
The main issue i can see, im in Australia, after 30 seconds matchmaking goes to expanded parameters, which essentially means the game will put me in asian servers with unplayable ping. I always restart matchmaking just before 30 seconds, so that doesn't happen. I am concerned they will see that as players leaving matchmaking queue. It would help immensely if they waited at least 5 mins b4 going to expanded matchmaking. I dont need to be in a game after 40 seconds, i can wait, and usually have to anyway.
Oh well, no changes for ranks below Master, so it's still frustrating to come back after months with so many people actively griefing in one way or another
OC player here, I think that a good solution (for me at least) would be extending match times to 15 or 20 minutes. I feel like waiting five minutes for a ten minute game is kind of crazy, whereas I would be way more likely to wait if the game was longer.
After 1600 matchmaking seems so unfair when we keep getting 2-3 players with under 300 total games played and also opponent getting players with thousands of matches
I think it's difficult for newbies as well the previous matchmaking system was mess tbh imagine just getting into the game and you're into high ranked players lobby what do you expect from them so they should paired with same kind of players so that they can learn the game well
I was already getting impatient with the 2 hour + wait times, I can't imagine them being longer... for a 10 minute match
Maybe this could have been a focus point 3 years ago before we had massive amounts of daily players quit because of poor matchmaking not when the games on the verge of shutting down
Question: What about the other ranks like ultra etc. It stays the same?
Yes exactly the same
It was nice fix matchmaking! But I was very hating Newbies Master 100 games with Oldest Master 10K games! Because I was carry by New players win ranking!
Now if you're on your promos your team gets to die together 🤣
It’s crazy to lower the bar to 1400 when it was 1800
The amount of times I'm up in the 16/1700 and then get paired with an ultra rank on the team.... Or when you look at the profile and they've only been master rank 1,2 or 3 times, but all 5 of the enemy have been master 20+times.. sooo unfair! Ha
@kaihandel9291 I am in the same situation hence why I am still skeptical of this change... remember the last change was the introduction of EX pokemon and we all know how that went
I really hope this is implemented well. I haven't played in months, but this sounds like a huge fix to one of my biggest frustrations
I am happy to hear they're trying something new, but I do hope this doesn't stay in Master Rank, would be nice to have it all through ranked games (especially if it makes a good difference)
I hope this works but I worry for some people that if the wait is 5 min that is a hard pill to swallow when the game is 10 min.
This is good change. Few things that could make this better are:
1. Players ranking down out of master. Need to remove the soft locking of players in masters once they reached it.
2. Trolls will still be present even though it may less or in losers queue. Better reporting system and punishments should be implemented for this.
MMR is a system that was built for chess, and thus meant for 1v1 calculations. It is incapable of considering the concept of being a bad player on a good team, or a good player on a bad team, being strategically bullied by the other team as a means of their strategy, or even just the concept of group queue.
As you can probably guess from that, MMR matchmaking has honestly been a poison to multiplayer matchmaking in team games for YEARS. It’s easy to implement, takes maybe a week at most if you write everything in code instead of copy-pasting, but just because it’s easy doesn’t mean it should have EVER become the standard.
This is an impressive step forward for any company to make, and a universally good thing, even if it’s only for Master Rank players. Looking forward to it
I would 100% wait longer then to get matched with lvl 30's and 40's in Expert rank and losing every single match up
The fact that you could be at the highest rank bracket in the game and still have the possibility of encountering teammates who don't understand what roles are is the most baffling piece of game design in any multiplayer game ever. Great changes
Another complaint: what is up with the fact that your teammate disappears in the mini map at some point? Like i need to be able to see my teammates on minimap
Day one of playing it and it's NOT fixed absolutely not in fact it's actually worse than before
I am having worse games because I keep getting useless trio as a solo q player like wtf man
@darkling5780 Exactly
@Knockoff_Zacian when it is a pure solo q game without trio I win those even if it is hard... but I keep getting trios and THEY FUCKING SUCK... like gimme all the bot matches
Finally! Maybe I can actually get a team that aren't crybaby rage quitting afks when they don't get their way! 😂 Seriously though, excited for this change and can't wait to (hopefully) meet chill players who actually are willing to play!
They had to change it. Competitive is such a huge step up from ranked, its not even the same game. With matchmaking as wide and loose as it was, it was never simulating a real competitive game environment in ranked. Im skeptical but if its really actually improved, that would be great.
I am so glad they are changing the MMR based matchmaking. I finally dont have to take first pick for all of my games in draft
Yesterday i play a game with 4 veteran ranked beginner players vs 3 gold badge and 1 blue badge opponent🙂
This doesn’t fix matchmaking for anyone wondering.
Might b worth redownloading if this fixes ranked matches
😢 considering my server, It already takes a little close to 2 min or more to get a match, sometimes takes more than 20 min too and now if I have to wait for someone my equal, ufuff. I'll not be finding a match anytime soon
There is no amount of time that means we need to revert. I'll gladly grind ladder + wait 2,3 hell even 5-10 minutes to ensure good well balanced games. IF they do this correctly, this will be the number 1 thing that'll save Unite IMO.
Been playing this game from launch, and i've been saying matchmaking fixes will make this game incredible and far better and easier to play/get into. I am completely excited for this, even if it's likely we'll be disappointed by Timi somehow in the future this can't be worse than the current system, even if they reset everyone to beginner or something ridiculous.
ON THE VERGE OF TEARS 😭 THIS TOOK SO LONG