LTG engine swap? Double wish bone suspension? And of course the biggest performance gainer a cool stripe down the middle(+100HP). Seriously has anyonw done an LTG swap
@@tubetop123 many things, a lot has to do with the sizing of them, it's not good at all for performance and this car is advertised as to be engineered towards that. You see the controversy now maybe?
Love the show, especially on TH-cam. I enjoy the "history" of various machines. I don't know if on CNBC edition you have had a "Women's Racer" episode, but I think it would be fun.
Car needs more power *but not through the form of turbo because* The nature of how turbo delivers power and more importantly torque, destroys what the car is all about for many people. Holding redline revs to get the most out of it and enjoying that on the seat and redline shifting driving intensity is what it's about. Even if a turbo motor has less power, just the nature of how turbo delivers torque would ruin it. And I doubt Subaru or Toyota is willing to spend money to design anti lag turbo and really make turbo top end and behave more similar to an NA engine. They just need to increase the power on the NA engine for it to be the perfect upgrade.
I tuned my outbacks turbo and now it's the best feeling in the world hitting the corners with that thing. Turbo engines need a chip and proper tune to fully perform
if your trying to make a car affordable don't put Brembo breaks on them... 2grand to replace rooters and pads.... should of skipped the Brembo breaks and put a damn turbo in them...
Jake Dawg but why would you do that on a NEW CAR lol... hardly worth it in my opinion. 2jz swap is already has a hefty price. Be better off going stock w/ a mustang for the price
Great idea if you want to spend another 10 grand. Or for the 40grand you spent on the bra and 2jz engine and labour. U could just buy a clean jdm tt 6 speed supra, and be done with the bs.
It’s the same ! It’s been the same since 2012 ! No, adding a new bumper and lights won’t make it faster. such a capable chassis but 205hp isn’t enough !
Everyone is so mad about it having 205 hp. But horsepower is not the point of this car. Do some research as to why it only has 205. You dont need 400 hp for a car that weighs a lot less than other bigger ones. It'll do the job. It's really annoying how many people are shitting on it here.
I only go in a straight line to school i don't really need cornering performance to bad. When I can get a Hyundai genesis coupe with 348hp 3.8L v6 like I'm so confused why they didn't give it a turbo or supercharger..
Engineered to perform 205hp = 160 whp = 140 wtq Prius tires, no turbo, and Brembo brakes to stop its huge amount of power, all for 35k cad. What a RIP off. Rather go buy any jdm classic from the 90s for that. Supra rz 6 speed for 30 thousand.
The only problem I have with this brand "brz" is that the interior feels super cheap. Nothing has mostly change in the pass years. Hope they step it up a little bit
Was considering selling my g35 for this. Until I saw the 205. I still like the body style of this car though, but will forever love the 300zx/350z/g35 lineup.
Depends what you want in a car . If you like going straight . Yeah this is not the car for that . But even built up this car isn’t great with lots of power( talking 350-450hp turbo builds) . This car is strictly a balance car . Even that little 200hp surprisingly passes cars on the track . Talking cars with almost double the power . Corvettes / Sti’s / evo’s . But the greatest thing is building it up . No one keeps this car stock . Seen a few but they are old 70 yr old men lol with a quick few parts on . Boom this car is a rocket weighing 500lbs less than a 370z . Exhaust / header / front and over pipe / tune / 230hp right there . And with e85 that’s a extra 30 hp right from the tune . Trust me find someone in your community with a little built of Frs or brz . And ask for a ride . Even better if you got some canyons or twisty roads ;)
C. Sometimes more power isn’t always the answer. If someone can floor it while you have to baby the throttle to not spin out who do you think will be overtaken?
How can the STI version not have 300 hp.... thats a shame. As well as a sport forester with less HP then past foresters?? I am die hard Subie fan but we are being let down.
I really was hoping this year was the year they threw a turbo on it from the factory with a better tune. Could buy better for that price, but if you're into the whole aesthetic aspect... I guess to each their own. And why the unnecessary Brembo brakes? Those are for real cars. #shame
I've noticed 3 different car companies make this model. somebody must have noticed this or know what I'm talking about. I think it was Subaru, Scion and Toyota?
Stop acting like you guys are going on a race track everyday where you need anymore hp, not enough speed my ass, the posted speed limits are not high enough for the need of more power
@@idk-gq3lh Mustang is a bulky muscle car, notorious for bad cornering. Stangs are awesome don't get me wrong, but their forte was always going straight. Not cornering.
Nice car and everything but where's the hp. It should have at least 400 hp. Good luck selling them if you where trying to make a performance car. Considering the WRX has 400 hp. Or is there an option for that.???👍☹
people here are pissing me off, they saw this one car ad and now they need to compare it to the only other car they posses knowledge about... like Gtrs and teslas
So many other cars to choose from then then this expensive, generic vehicle: Civic si coupe Infiniti G35 or G37 Nissan 350z or 370z Mazda Miata Mustang Ecoboost
MAKE A TURBO VERSION. I DONT UNDERSTAND. THIS WOULD BE THE BEST SELLING COUPE IF IT HAD THE SAME TURBO AS THE WRX
Parker Wagstaff would take away from Wrx/Sri sales which is their pride and joy. They make more money on those
@@abbishansriskandarajah6205 joi
My grandmother and her old Camry v6 ate this car last night. It was sad.
amazing chassis, decent price, sublime steering; damn near ruined by the hamster running on a wheel for a motor.
“Engineered to perform”
*205 horsepower*
Cornering is more important than power.
*up to* 205
Engine power isnt the only thing when you speak of performance
I'd've built it with 225hp and AWD.
LTG engine swap? Double wish bone suspension? And of course the biggest performance gainer a cool stripe down the middle(+100HP). Seriously has anyonw done an LTG swap
I don't regret my purchase one bit! Keep your shirts on. All it needs is Headers, sticky tires and a Tune.
Does it still use prius tires?
Brian Dominguez no lool
Just look at it, it’s not
What's wrong with Prius tires!!
@@tubetop123 many things, a lot has to do with the sizing of them, it's not good at all for performance and this car is advertised as to be engineered towards that. You see the controversy now maybe?
Haha Prius 🤮
This is a great first car
Love the show, especially on TH-cam. I enjoy the "history" of various machines. I don't know if on CNBC edition you have had a "Women's Racer" episode, but I think it would be fun.
THE toyobaru frs
Trabi Suyota FRZ
Frz86
‘toyobaru’ ahahah 😂
Car needs more power *but not through the form of turbo because*
The nature of how turbo delivers power and more importantly torque, destroys what the car is all about for many people. Holding redline revs to get the most out of it and enjoying that on the seat and redline shifting driving intensity is what it's about. Even if a turbo motor has less power, just the nature of how turbo delivers torque would ruin it. And I doubt Subaru or Toyota is willing to spend money to design anti lag turbo and really make turbo top end and behave more similar to an NA engine. They just need to increase the power on the NA engine for it to be the perfect upgrade.
Thats fixable with a tune. But muh emissions prevent such a tune i suppose
I tuned my outbacks turbo and now it's the best feeling in the world hitting the corners with that thing. Turbo engines need a chip and proper tune to fully perform
Music para dormir
if your trying to make a car affordable don't put Brembo breaks on them... 2grand to replace rooters and pads.... should of skipped the Brembo breaks and put a damn turbo in them...
golden comment
Handling car---- brakes make more sense since that was one of the original complaints.
Rotors are not meant to be regularly replaced; unless damaged.
100%, stopping power will be fantastic tho against that monster "up to 205HP!! 1!!"
Can you please give us more space on the engine so we can put some good mods thanks
relocate stuff
They sould make brz sti with the ej25 turbo
Sumo Deligiannis they don’t make ejs any more their in the fa20 and fb20 platform
Why should they?
That would cannibalize WRX sales
Nope! You're all wrong. It needs a flat 6. Just send it to MCM
Miss my brz 😢
It’s....the same thing.....
No turbo? No money.
They got the amount of doors right...a rare site these day
Forgot to remove the Inspire-2 shadow
Woah it looks exactly the same
Like this BRZ.
Beautiful car! Perfect for a rocket bunny kit and a 2JZ swap!!
Jake Dawg but why would you do that on a NEW CAR lol... hardly worth it in my opinion. 2jz swap is already has a hefty price. Be better off going stock w/ a mustang for the price
Great idea if you want to spend another 10 grand. Or for the 40grand you spent on the bra and 2jz engine and labour. U could just buy a clean jdm tt 6 speed supra, and be done with the bs.
This would officially be the only factory produced rice car
did they use a blackbird or an actual car to film this
It’s the same ! It’s been the same since 2012 !
No, adding a new bumper and lights won’t make it faster.
such a capable chassis but 205hp isn’t enough !
What bout 272?
I bought one a month ago after test driving a Toyota 86.
The best good looking var Subaru has ever built!
Really can drift easily with one of the BRZ or GT86
Give it the 3.5 litre boxer 6 and then we're talking
So how's this different from 2013...?
Everyone is so mad about it having 205 hp. But horsepower is not the point of this car. Do some research as to why it only has 205. You dont need 400 hp for a car that weighs a lot less than other bigger ones. It'll do the job. It's really annoying how many people are shitting on it here.
Quand le brz STI 4x4? 🙏
U can get a 9th gen civic si for less then 15k with the same HP
Exactly lol.
It’s not all about the horsepower, I would much rather have a rwd car that’s more expensive than a fwd drive car that’s less expensive
I only go in a straight line to school i don't really need cornering performance to bad. When I can get a Hyundai genesis coupe with 348hp 3.8L v6 like I'm so confused why they didn't give it a turbo or supercharger..
In order to have a high revving engine. Now you know!
Subaru FR-Eight-uh Six-uh
Engineered to perform
205hp = 160 whp = 140 wtq
Prius tires, no turbo, and Brembo brakes to stop its huge amount of power, all for 35k cad. What a RIP off. Rather go buy any jdm classic from the 90s for that. Supra rz 6 speed for 30 thousand.
Did you actually just say a Supra RZ 6 speed is 30,000?
Realistically u only need more than 200 hp if u have something to prove. It's more then enough for that car.. Would be fun as hell to drive.
michael disher you’re happy with 200hp in that thing.....seriously?
@@whiteboy1256thst Got 10k on my 2018 and LOVE IT... Oh, and driving it in Montreal during the Winter was a blast !!!
did it always had brembos ? ll
Where is this track/road?
Where the brz sti doeeee?
Beautiful Car!!!
The only problem I have with this brand "brz" is that the interior feels super cheap. Nothing has mostly change in the pass years. Hope they step it up a little bit
Was considering selling my g35 for this. Until I saw the 205. I still like the body style of this car though, but will forever love the 300zx/350z/g35 lineup.
Depends what you want in a car . If you like going straight . Yeah this is not the car for that . But even built up this car isn’t great with lots of power( talking 350-450hp turbo builds) . This car is strictly a balance car . Even that little 200hp surprisingly passes cars on the track . Talking cars with almost double the power . Corvettes / Sti’s / evo’s . But the greatest thing is building it up . No one keeps this car stock . Seen a few but they are old 70 yr old men lol with a quick few parts on . Boom this car is a rocket weighing 500lbs less than a 370z . Exhaust / header / front and over pipe / tune / 230hp right there . And with e85 that’s a extra 30 hp right from the tune . Trust me find someone in your community with a little built of Frs or brz . And ask for a ride . Even better if you got some canyons or twisty roads ;)
dylan wilson this car will never be as fast as a 370z even with a turbo. Dont kid yourself
C. Sometimes more power isn’t always the answer. If someone can floor it while you have to baby the throttle to not spin out who do you think will be overtaken?
C. 370z are slow for the price too.
Where is this road? I want to go there
how much LBS does it weight?
We need more Toyota supras.
what road is this?
Nice
Where’s the sti
Why an I seeing this ad in 2019?
couple stickers on the car and the hp will go right up !
Jeeze it's all tinted out and looks nice but it's illegal to actually tint it like that and make it look that nice in virtually all states 😭
How can the STI version not have 300 hp.... thats a shame. As well as a sport forester with less HP then past foresters?? I am die hard Subie fan but we are being let down.
I really was hoping this year was the year they threw a turbo on it from the factory with a better tune. Could buy better for that price, but if you're into the whole aesthetic aspect... I guess to each their own.
And why the unnecessary Brembo brakes? Those are for real cars. #shame
It's a 4 cylinder engine. I personally think they should change to a 6 cylinder engine with a single turbo.
Satnam Dhillon Not the car they're trying to build. Itd be way more expensive too.
I guess Im not the only one who actually clicked this ad 🙄
music please
I've noticed 3 different car companies make this model. somebody must have noticed this or know what I'm talking about. I think it was Subaru, Scion and Toyota?
They are the same car. BRZ, FRS, GT86. Toyota owns Scion btw. Toyota and Subaru designed the car together.
UHHHHHGGGGGGGG IM SO CONFUSED WHAT COMPANY OWMS THIS CAR SCION, SUBARU, TOYOTA...AHHHHHHHH
Why won't you just boost it...….
Make an electric car already Subaru! Please I love your cars and an electric one would be awesome!
apparently you and only 4 other people agree would want something absurd
No one ever puts the price in ads
TheGreatNorth go on their website haha
No zr1 engine inside? Disappointed
My 2008 Honda Civic Si has 205 Horsepower too! And just like the BRZ, it needs forced induction...
197 hp at 7000 rpm. Like 120 whp
Needs an H6
GTR BEST💪
Stop acting like you guys are going on a race track everyday where you need anymore hp, not enough speed my ass, the posted speed limits are not high enough for the need of more power
Will there ever be an AWD option?
Joey Battlefieldv2 doubtful, I really dont think that's the intention of this car at all. They have the wrx for that
no that would make the car too heavy.
Yeah they have been making it for years it’s called the wrx
why?
Yeah it's called a wrx
Expensive and low hp ;(
29k cad is cheap for such a car
@@invertedv12powerhouse77 not really.
@@invertedv12powerhouse77 tbh id buy a Honda civic type r with that 29k
@@invertedv12powerhouse77 the 370z is the same price and has 333hp. Hell the WRZ is the same price and has 270hp
@@idk-gq3lh Mustang is a bulky muscle car, notorious for bad cornering. Stangs are awesome don't get me wrong, but their forte was always going straight. Not cornering.
But is the torque dip gone
Andrew Raymond you're asking too much ;D
Andrew Raymond torque dip? It would actually have to make some torque for it to dip lol.
The fastest slow car
It’s 2019
This video seems to be really low budget. Doesn't showcase the cars beauty
😍
It’s 2019 why am I seeing this
lol only 205hp & why the expensive Brembo's??
sloooww
I'll go ahead and buy a Tesla Model S P100DL and race this car.
2 very different cars mate...
Starting price of brz (CAD) 30k. Starting price of 100d, 176k. Yeah... good comparison, I'll just go ahead and race your tesla against the thrust ssc.
@toulouse666 theres was a honda with 240hp and 162lbft. So in all fairness for a 2L its pretty good..
You guys don't get it, look at his name and pic, he is "elon musk" the creator of Tesla
I love the legacy of the 86... but kids... please Stop buying this car! The streets Toronto are so full of them! You aren’t unique anymore!
I know at least a handful of these guys... oh God why
Its 2019
Nice car and everything but where's the hp. It should have at least 400 hp. Good luck selling them if you where trying to make a performance car. Considering the WRX has 400 hp. Or is there an option for that.???👍☹
Why won’t you guys just give brzs some damn power😡
Bremo breaks.. got to slow that beast down
Subaru needs to up the horsepower in their cars. The sti has been at 305 for so long and the brz only has 205. WEAK
JayTee you dont know how the business works so stop
I bought this car in 2007.....its called a G35
We need more horsepower , for how the car looks its too slow
100% underpowered. Same HP you'd find in an old type R from the 90's which was huge back then but by today's standards not so much.
Jeez still riding that 205 horsepower lol
playbak my 109 hp nissan micra beat this
Subaru sports cars are just go carts
Maybe increase the hp? My grandmas toyota has more than that... cmon subaru
Looks like a Prius and drives like a Prius than that must be a Prius.
people here are pissing me off, they saw this one car ad and now they need to compare it to the only other car they posses knowledge about... like Gtrs and teslas
_still no turbo_
*HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON, OLD MAN.*
This car needs a turbo and 300 ponies maybe steal it from the wrx.
So many other cars to choose from then then this expensive, generic vehicle:
Civic si coupe
Infiniti G35 or G37
Nissan 350z or 370z
Mazda Miata
Mustang Ecoboost
Dodge Grand Caravan day
Wheels are too small
A good electric bicycle could probably beat this thing in a race ☠
Toyota Scion with the Subaru badge on it
Need more hp
Make a new Baja instead