I was just thinking about putting an Ardupilot on my TREX-450, which I can’t fly for beans. Started looking around, and here you are! #2 on the list that popped up!
Check out the Tower app for Arducopter. You can plug in the 3DR radio into a phone that can do OTG usb... and do all the stuff mission planner can, plus some things that require GPS(like follow me). Also, With a gimbal setup, Arducopter will auto track the gimbal(I have Storm32) on yaw and pitch to the ROI.
Impressive. Well worth a thumbs up. One little tip for you. Always carry one of those battery checkers with you (the ones that plug into the balance connector) and you should easily be able to gauge if you have that 'just one more mission' in it.
For anyone just getting in to APM/pixhawk , Painless360 has some very good videos on how to get set up initially and is quite informative. I found them of great use of reference when first starting out.
Nice one again! Not that I've spent much time with MP, and no, I haven't got my quad project off the ground yet but I'm curious if you could add a fast descent with slow final at say 2 metres.
Wow that's a really impressive autopilot and chance you could test its manual/acro flying performance in comparison to INAV as im am really considering putting together a long range quadcopter with RTH and autonomous flying.
If you have android phone or tablet and wish to have more fun, then download free Tower app and connect your telemetry radio via OTG cable to phone/tablet. Enable GPS on the phone/tablet and play with "follow me" modes. Also you will have "Guided" mode available, just tap on the map when you wish copter to fly and it will go there. Also will do automatic selfies and planning missions is much simpler, as you can simply draw your mission with your finger on the screen and it will create way-points automatically and the same story with survey grids. Happy flying.
A year or so agom the beta had some unique features that the official version didn't have, one of them was a camera view on the map. I haven't used it for a while so they both might have the same features now. Awesome build! I like autonomous flying.
Right. Official version also now have video on the map if you choose to display it in the settings. The only difference I can see from description is RSSI reading fix for SIK radios in the beta. I'm never confident with beta versions, but if you didn't experience any problems with it then it should be no difference which one to use. I think Tower is not in development any longer, but it's excellent app as it is now anyway.
Ardupilot looks interesting. I just finished an INAV build of a small 160mm size quad and adding GPS to a quad (or plane) gives a new dimension to your flying. To be able to have reliable position hold and rth, are priceless. I think 2018 is the year of GPS on RC craft.
Something you mind find wicked to tinker with is an app ANDRUAV 3/4g flight. That I would love to see and its free. Im still working through your plane videos so will try once setup.
You might find some info here: th-cam.com/play/PLzidsatoEzejIpdla6_ggPcDCPJ9u4WHj.html If you want something more specific you'll need to be more specific....
Excellent demo of Ardupilot Copter!! Well done, I will be setting my own up ASAP. Do you have any plans to add a gimbal and try some of the POI gimbal controls?
That shitty vtx comes with free solar flares and 80's retro flickering ^^ Sitting in a dark room, I am sure my neighbourgs think I am watching pr0n or something...
Check out Qground control. It’s another fork of ardupilot ground control software. Works on all platforms and a lot more intuative for new comers. Also any of the flight modes can be entered into from a mavlink command when you transmitter modes aren’t enough. Been using this hardware for years. It’s only cheap cloned hardware that has caused issues in the past. Done hundreds of auto missions with no flyaways
On your wooden H Mini Pix build, I wonder if you would be comfortable stacking the Controller on top of the PDB/Current/volt board, or would you worry about mag interference?
The compass is in the external module with the GPS, up and away from the interference. aahhh... actually I think there is a second compass inside the main part of the FC too. But you can turn it off if you're concerned about interference.
Any word on esc's for your Quads? I bought very cheap red simonk 30amp esc's from singapore. Most of them work, but i've always had problems with the quad lurching to one side on takeoff, having eliminated al the usual suspects. Now i'm thinking it's an esc timing issue.
Not sure what you mean by 'word'. The ESCs in this quad are HobbyWing xrotor 20A if that's what you're asking (the older large ones with electrolytic cap, not sure if they still make them).
I think I just powered it from something else. That camera is not great for power sensitivity, sometimes it completely cuts out when on the same rail as servos.
I was wandering if this can be done on a 220mm quad, with a purpose of adding a 2axis gimbal to make good video recording. I'm asking if can be done, because the videos i watch are of people using this flight controller with big quads, 450 or 500mm, giving more stability... or it shall be the same with my 220mm quad?
Often when you see many people doing something a certain way, there is a good reason for it :) That's not to say a smaller quad can't carry a gimbal, it's just not the best way to do it. You might like to see this example: th-cam.com/video/jawmp9PX0bw/w-d-xo.html
I was put off autotune due to reports that it takes so long people often end up crashing due to battery dying. Tried it today doing one axis at a time, they each finished quite quickly so I attempted to do all in one battery and ended up crashing due to battery dying about five seconds before I was gonna land. The weather was not helping, raining every time I went outside and then stopping when I went inside, which was why I had not brought my laptop outside to warn me of battery level that last time. It was a very surprising crash.... with iNav/cleanflight you notice the motors getting weak gradually and have a chance to bring it down in one piece, but this time one motor suddenly stopped completely and it tumbled end over end quite spectacularly. It had just finished the final yaw tune and I was giving it some sharp yaw inputs to check how the tune worked out, maybe that didn't help. As for the tune results, pitch seems about the same, roll was improved and yaw I think I preferred it at the defaults.
Try to do the autotune in the position hold mode and split it up on two parts - pitch/roll and yaw autotune. After autotune for selected axes was completed turn the autotune switch OFF and then ON again, check that you are OK with new parameters land and disarm ... I usually reboot it as well. The Stab P parameter should be greater than it was for default setup - look at mine parameters for two quad ... th-cam.com/video/C32qrst8GzQ/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/S9hmvVXM7-E/w-d-xo.html... I understand that you've got completely different setup but it's for example ... And check your vibrations in logs - they shouldn't be huge for correct autotune.
I have found that any barometer on an FC, when in a mode that has to have the barometer the throttle has to be 50%. When in auto mode doing a mission I don't know what mode it is flying in, do you? When I do a mission I arm in Loiter Mode and flip a switch on channel 8 to AUTO and it takes off for the mission. Channel 5 is in Loiter and channel 8 is in auto, Am I doing it wrong.? I have the Flysky i6s, Channel 3- spring loaded when armed motors spinning ready for take. off, so stable mode is useless for my setup. Thank You.
When in auto mode it will be flying in.... auto mode :) There is only one channel used for selecting flight mode, as it says here "On Copter this is always channel 5" ardupilot.org/copter/docs/common-rc-transmitter-flight-mode-configuration.html
@@iforce2d Ok thank you for the link,, I never read that before. There is a lot to know about this APM board, so auto is just like any other mode like position hold or something it makes sense cause it is only used for missions. Back to mission Planner to correct switches. Thanks
Bad choice for what? Yes, I have been using iNav/BF/CF for about 4 years, I contributed source code to iNav and made a mixing calculator and survey plan calculator for it.... th-cam.com/video/9FvpT9jH0NA/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/4fMe8ij7sLY/w-d-xo.html
When you are building quad for video or waypoints mission in a fully automatic mode - it's the best. Even the 8bits APM 2.6 flying waypoints better than something 32bit with INAV . In my opinion INAV better for the sport quad. But to make APM/Pixhawk flyable you need to spend a great deal of time.
So Pixhawk for serious builds, like mapping but INAV for things like wings I suppose. The auto takeoff and land features for fixed wing on Pixhawk look amazing. Either way a far cry from what we had just a couple years ago.
GPS is not that precise. You can count on about 1.8m - 2.5 m precision with GPS. You would need an optical flow cam for that (a RTK system is within 1-2cm precision, but they cost $ %¤&#,-).
They're both free. Ardupilot is a flight controller. That means it is specifically made for controlling flight. Robot Operating System is robotics middleware and nothing to do with flight. I would suggest you spend a few minutes reading about each (even just the wikipedia), instead of making demanding posts like this expecting others to spoonfeed you. I mean how do you even know I ever heard of ROS in the first place.... maybe I had to google it just now :)
Cool, I was hoping you'd try it on a quad. Have you seen this? github.com/PocketPilot/PocketPilot/blob/master/README.md Potentially a bit more fun than a microcontroller.
So are we, his loyal minions I guess :D I am yet to build my first autopilot quad. There is still a lot of pioneering to do in this area. And if you dont fancy quad racing, this is one of the few channels left not infested with that crap.
Yes, quad racing is literally becoming boring as we speak, so I seek the thrill in fiddling with APM and Pixhawk, that is the reason I was surprised about him not getting into Ardupilot until now.
When I first started looking around at all this multi-rotor stuff I wanted to approach it as a developer and meddle with the source code. The APM source was a confusing as hell nightmare and I gave up on trying to build it pretty quickly, plus the hardware was something like $80-100. In contrast you can build cleanflight in just six commands from a fresh install, and the FC cost is more like $20. github.com/cleanflight/cleanflight/blob/master/docs/development/Building%20in%20Fedora.md
Fantastic! will you please approach the ardupilot source-code and document it in your videos? None of the TH-camrs did this in a fashion that a novice could understand.
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I was just thinking about putting an Ardupilot on my TREX-450, which I can’t fly for beans. Started looking around, and here you are! #2 on the list that popped up!
Keep them coming ! Really enjoying your PH vids 👍👍
It’s fun to experience your ardupilot joy with you after a couple years of the other system I’ve been using it 6 Years
This is Beautiful, I'm glad I chose Pixhawk for my GPS build =D Thanks for the video!
I'm jealous that everything worked the first time :D
Check out the Tower app for Arducopter. You can plug in the 3DR radio into a phone that can do OTG usb... and do all the stuff mission planner can, plus some things that require GPS(like follow me). Also, With a gimbal setup, Arducopter will auto track the gimbal(I have Storm32) on yaw and pitch to the ROI.
Impressive. Well worth a thumbs up. One little tip for you. Always carry one of those battery checkers with you (the ones that plug into the balance connector) and you should easily be able to gauge if you have that 'just one more mission' in it.
True. In this case I had it connected to the laptop where I can read the voltage.
Excellent... I'm impressed.
For anyone just getting in to APM/pixhawk , Painless360 has some very good videos on how to get set up initially and is quite informative. I found them of great use of reference when first starting out.
Thanks buddy. It's awesome
Great video and very interesting. Thanks
Wow that was awesome thank you for sharing
1st rule of aerial engagement... keep sun at your back (wink). Great video!
Your a step or two ahead of me... Near to maiden of a gutted CX20. Hope it is near as smooth as yours.
that gps hold was fantastic,
Nice one again!
Not that I've spent much time with MP, and no, I haven't got my quad project off the ground yet
but I'm curious if you could add a fast descent with slow final at say 2 metres.
Wow that's a really impressive autopilot and chance you could test its manual/acro flying performance in comparison to INAV as im am really considering putting together a long range quadcopter with RTH and autonomous flying.
If you have android phone or tablet and wish to have more fun, then download free Tower app and connect your telemetry radio via OTG cable to phone/tablet. Enable GPS on the phone/tablet and play with "follow me" modes. Also you will have "Guided" mode available, just tap on the map when you wish copter to fly and it will go there. Also will do automatic selfies and planning missions is much simpler, as you can simply draw your mission with your finger on the screen and it will create way-points automatically and the same story with survey grids. Happy flying.
Yes, I am afraid Tower app works only on android devices.
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.droidplanner.android.beta&hl=en
I use official version, not beta, from the link here play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.droidplanner.android&hl=en
A year or so agom the beta had some unique features that the official version didn't have, one of them was a camera view on the map. I haven't used it for a while so they both might have the same features now. Awesome build! I like autonomous flying.
Right. Official version also now have video on the map if you choose to display it in the settings. The only difference I can see from description is RSSI reading fix for SIK radios in the beta. I'm never confident with beta versions, but if you didn't experience any problems with it then it should be no difference which one to use. I think Tower is not in development any longer, but it's excellent app as it is now anyway.
Bored with the Buffalo already ? Nice demo of the mission flying abilities.
Ardupilot looks interesting. I just finished an INAV build of a small 160mm size quad and adding GPS to a quad (or plane) gives a new dimension to your flying. To be able to have reliable position hold and rth, are priceless. I think 2018 is the year of GPS on RC craft.
Something you mind find wicked to tinker with is an app ANDRUAV 3/4g flight. That I would love to see and its free. Im still working through your plane videos so will try once setup.
Can't you make a video about Bat, Motors and props :-)
Love you way to tell and make your videos :-) Keep up the good work.
You might find some info here:
th-cam.com/play/PLzidsatoEzejIpdla6_ggPcDCPJ9u4WHj.html
If you want something more specific you'll need to be more specific....
Excellent demo of Ardupilot Copter!! Well done, I will be setting my own up ASAP. Do you have any plans to add a gimbal and try some of the POI gimbal controls?
If I put this on my large hex sometime, yes in that case I would try the gimbal control.
That shitty vtx comes with free solar flares and 80's retro flickering ^^
Sitting in a dark room, I am sure my neighbourgs think I am watching pr0n or something...
YEAH!
I LOVE QUADS !
Great Video. I brought one of these flight controllers . Please could you show more depth tuning for this Mini Pix. Fantastic anyway.
I didn't really tune it. The docs for autotune are here if you want to try that.
ardupilot.org/copter/docs/autotune.html
How did you fix the power supply glitching the video? (and more importantly, is this copter made of wood?)
Ardupilot always has the pitch channel reversed and you want to reverse it in the firmware params instead of the radio or you can run into some issues
Check out Qground control. It’s another fork of ardupilot ground control software. Works on all platforms and a lot more intuative for new comers. Also any of the flight modes can be entered into from a mavlink command when you transmitter modes aren’t enough. Been using this hardware for years. It’s only cheap cloned hardware that has caused issues in the past. Done hundreds of auto missions with no flyaways
On your wooden H Mini Pix build, I wonder if you would be comfortable stacking the Controller on top of the PDB/Current/volt board, or would you worry about mag interference?
The compass is in the external module with the GPS, up and away from the interference. aahhh... actually I think there is a second compass inside the main part of the FC too. But you can turn it off if you're concerned about interference.
Nice one! Ardu is a powerful tool. I like your vids. Please keep them coming. Where abouts are you based??
Waikato NZ
Christchurch
Add low ESR capacitor and change the props to something like a dalprop cyclones :D
what motor and esc you use?
Any word on esc's for your Quads? I bought very cheap red simonk 30amp esc's from singapore. Most of them work, but i've always had problems with the quad lurching to one side on takeoff, having eliminated al the usual suspects. Now i'm thinking it's an esc timing issue.
Not sure what you mean by 'word'. The ESCs in this quad are HobbyWing xrotor 20A if that's what you're asking (the older large ones with electrolytic cap, not sure if they still make them).
I use a nexus 7 tablet with internet connection through phone
What was your solution for this ugly noise on the FPV. Have you tried low ESR capacitor or LC filter on the power line?
I think I just powered it from something else. That camera is not great for power sensitivity, sometimes it completely cuts out when on the same rail as servos.
I was wandering if this can be done on a 220mm quad, with a purpose of adding a 2axis gimbal to make good video recording. I'm asking if can be done, because the videos i watch are of people using this flight controller with big quads, 450 or 500mm, giving more stability... or it shall be the same with my 220mm quad?
Often when you see many people doing something a certain way, there is a good reason for it :)
That's not to say a smaller quad can't carry a gimbal, it's just not the best way to do it. You might like to see this example: th-cam.com/video/jawmp9PX0bw/w-d-xo.html
The example is great :)
i just want to build a manned aerial for carrying people
Pah, you can soar that. Did you autotune it?
For RTL with the nose facing ardupilot.org/copter/docs/rtl-mode.html and try an autotune, they are like magic.
I was put off autotune due to reports that it takes so long people often end up crashing due to battery dying. Tried it today doing one axis at a time, they each finished quite quickly so I attempted to do all in one battery and ended up crashing due to battery dying about five seconds before I was gonna land. The weather was not helping, raining every time I went outside and then stopping when I went inside, which was why I had not brought my laptop outside to warn me of battery level that last time. It was a very surprising crash.... with iNav/cleanflight you notice the motors getting weak gradually and have a chance to bring it down in one piece, but this time one motor suddenly stopped completely and it tumbled end over end quite spectacularly. It had just finished the final yaw tune and I was giving it some sharp yaw inputs to check how the tune worked out, maybe that didn't help. As for the tune results, pitch seems about the same, roll was improved and yaw I think I preferred it at the defaults.
Try to do the autotune in the position hold mode and split it up on two parts - pitch/roll and yaw autotune. After autotune for selected axes was completed turn the autotune switch OFF and then ON again, check that you are OK with new parameters land and disarm ... I usually reboot it as well. The Stab P parameter should be greater than it was for default setup - look at mine parameters for two quad ... th-cam.com/video/C32qrst8GzQ/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/S9hmvVXM7-E/w-d-xo.html... I understand that you've got completely different setup but it's for example ... And check your vibrations in logs - they shouldn't be huge for correct autotune.
Yes, that's what I meant by "one axis at a time".
I have found that any barometer on an FC, when in a mode that has to have the barometer the throttle has to be 50%. When in auto mode doing a mission I don't know what mode it is flying in, do you? When I do a mission I arm in Loiter Mode and flip a switch on channel 8 to AUTO and it takes off for the mission. Channel 5 is in Loiter and channel 8 is in auto, Am I doing it wrong.? I have the Flysky i6s, Channel 3- spring loaded when armed motors spinning ready for take. off, so stable mode is useless for my setup. Thank You.
When in auto mode it will be flying in.... auto mode :)
There is only one channel used for selecting flight mode, as it says here "On Copter this is always channel 5" ardupilot.org/copter/docs/common-rc-transmitter-flight-mode-configuration.html
@@iforce2d Ok thank you for the link,, I never read that before. There is a lot to know about this APM board, so auto is just like any other mode like position hold or something it makes sense cause it is only used for missions. Back to mission Planner to correct switches. Thanks
16:25 there's a parameter for it to do that, just dig for it a bit, use the search tool
What gps u using and also i wanna know can i run ublox neo7m gps with omnibus f4 running arducopter pls reply
This GPS came with the radiolink mini pix controller, it's a M8N.
@@iforce2d so can i use neo 7m with omnibus f4
yes
Are you going to build dji like quad ?
Like a BIG ONE !
iforce2d nice ! 😂
And how about GPS return home function, you promised me that you'll do a video about it.
23:44 there is some return to home footage :)
No, i'm talking about return home function using gps ublox and arduino codes.....
@@aminezitouni8427 That is return to me not home LOL.
how can I get Mission Planet Ground Control station I'm looking for it and I can't find it
Alexie Gonzalez
Try Google mission planner.
I think the Mission Planer is a bad choice. Try iNAV it’s similar to Betaflight/Cleanflight
Bad choice for what? Yes, I have been using iNav/BF/CF for about 4 years, I contributed source code to iNav and made a mixing calculator and survey plan calculator for it....
th-cam.com/video/9FvpT9jH0NA/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/4fMe8ij7sLY/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for links. The calculator looks interesting ... I need to look at it better
What are your thoughts when comparing INav to Ardu?
When you are building quad for video or waypoints mission in a fully automatic mode - it's the best. Even the 8bits APM 2.6 flying waypoints better than something 32bit with INAV . In my opinion INAV better for the sport quad.
But to make APM/Pixhawk flyable you need to spend a great deal of time.
So Pixhawk for serious builds, like mapping but INAV for things like wings I suppose. The auto takeoff and land features for fixed wing on Pixhawk look amazing. Either way a far cry from what we had just a couple years ago.
Could the software auto-land on a pizza box sized landing pad ?
GPS is not that precise. You can count on about 1.8m - 2.5 m precision with GPS.
You would need an optical flow cam for that (a RTK system is within 1-2cm precision, but they cost $ %¤&#,-).
Sure, just slip the box under as it comes down :P
why ardupilot and not ros, don't tell me because it is free, give me other reasons, i need to know which is the best drone app the best
They're both free. Ardupilot is a flight controller. That means it is specifically made for controlling flight. Robot Operating System is robotics middleware and nothing to do with flight. I would suggest you spend a few minutes reading about each (even just the wikipedia), instead of making demanding posts like this expecting others to spoonfeed you. I mean how do you even know I ever heard of ROS in the first place.... maybe I had to google it just now :)
Would like to see this in a wing.
..... I just made 6 videos about that
th-cam.com/play/PLzidsatoEzejCTb2_dc2fAqt0ysVvdoiU.html
Hello
Cool, I was hoping you'd try it on a quad. Have you seen this? github.com/PocketPilot/PocketPilot/blob/master/README.md Potentially a bit more fun than a microcontroller.
_Am I the only one who thinks he, being a quadcopter enthusiast, is particularly late for the APM party?_
So are we, his loyal minions I guess :D
I am yet to build my first autopilot quad. There is still a lot of pioneering to do in this area.
And if you dont fancy quad racing, this is one of the few channels left not infested with that crap.
Yes, quad racing is literally becoming boring as we speak, so I seek the thrill in fiddling with APM and Pixhawk, that is the reason I was surprised about him not getting into Ardupilot until now.
When I first started looking around at all this multi-rotor stuff I wanted to approach it as a developer and meddle with the source code. The APM source was a confusing as hell nightmare and I gave up on trying to build it pretty quickly, plus the hardware was something like $80-100. In contrast you can build cleanflight in just six commands from a fresh install, and the FC cost is more like $20.
github.com/cleanflight/cleanflight/blob/master/docs/development/Building%20in%20Fedora.md
Fantastic! will you please approach the ardupilot source-code and document it in your videos? None of the TH-camrs did this in a fashion that a novice could understand.