My eyes tell me everything about how good frankel was and when a legend of the game like sir Henry Cecil says he’s the best he’s ever seen that’s good enough for me
@@walkawaycat431 I’ll be completely honest that I’ve not really followed American horse racing over the years because of the time difference and not huge coverage some 20 plus years ago but obviously have heard so much about secretariat and his awesome performances but also loved the Sunday silence,Easy goer battles of the late 80s early 90s.Also Flightline had so much potential and seeing some of his performances reminded me of Frankel and feel it’s such a shame he only ever had 6 races as racing is what they are bred for and really had the potential to stamp himself as the best
This Frankel Tribute 2012 is one of the best videos I've ever seen in horseracing coverage. Assuming the Tom O'Ryan credited at the start is the narrator of the piece, many, many thanks to him for posting a tribute to a surpassingly great horse that is actually worthy of the horse.
I completely agree You very rarely see a classic race won on that way,to be 15 lengths clear at halfway and still win with such authority tells you that he was a very special horse and that’s without any of his other races
Agree with that. I know that Secretariat had a monstrous heart of 22 pounds. No one could argue his greatness. Frankel is also great. Who would win? I don't want to know. I love them both. I love all these great champs. We are all just lucky to see Frankel in action now.
Love animals Love horses But Frankel is a Wonder of a horse. Undescribable and unseen. Seen a lot of champions on youtube nowadays. But he stands out. His presence stands for himself Grateful to have witnessed him in my lifetime.
He pounds the ground with those front hooves and just swallows the ground, lifts his knees high and drives those feet into the ground, eating it up. Amazing!!!
Canford Cliffs and Excelebration were two seriously good milers and he made both look like common hacks. Anyone who questions this horses competition is not compos mentis.
@@russe19642 Cranford Cliffs won 6 Group 1's, Excelebration won 3 Group 1's and Farhh won 2 Group 1's to name a three. Next time you ask a rhetorical question make sure you do know the answer rather than showing up your incredible talent for redundancy.
@@potstrond well if you dont have the answer dont reply,i wasnt asking about the ones frakel beat that were already group one winners i was asking of the others he beat who went on to win group ones,i already know about canfords cliffs and the rest,but what about after frankel beat them.Winx beat 78 previous group one winners and 81 went on to win group ones after she beat them.By the looks of it frankels only claim to fame was beating canford cliffs who got injured during the running,other than that i dont see any other horses he beat go on to do anything substantial which means he did beat much,champion 3yo in uk yeah probably,worlds best i doubt it because he never ventured past the likes of canford cliffs and they needed to test him like they did with sea the stars but they were to shit scared he'd get beat and even the connections of frankel admitted they doubt he'd stay,so much for veing the worlds best totally overrated
@@russe19642 your answer betrays the redundancy of your argument once again. You simply make comparisons where none exist. Can I suggest you total up the Group 1's available in Australia as well as the number of horses who win Group 1's there and compare that to England, then adjust for length of career of horses in the UK versus Australia. If you still insist on making spurious comparisons after that it is proof that your jingositic prism is the issue and you are unable to escape from its lens. Winx was way more classy than a great deal of her fans and it is a pity that you should sully her record by making such inane commentary on Frankel.
@@potstrond big words get you nowhere buddy,if you claim he was the best how many of his opposition went onto anything of note,obviously none or youd have all the stats and facts and couldn't help yourself listing them like you did before.Just another backyard champion,so tell me of the ones he beat which ones went onto group one glory.if ya havent got anything don't say anything
His performance in the 2000 Guineas over a course whose expanse and "lack of reference points" for a horse is probably the best guide to his courage and racing superiority.
Anyone who remembers his dad Galileo will know just why Frankel was so talented. His dad was pretty special and has sired many winners so can you imagine what Frankel's progeny are gonna be like?
I was there at the Juddmnonte to witness him in the flesh. I'm a York lad and have been lucky enough to witness some great performances by great horses at the Knavesemire over the past 30 years. The display of power that Frankel showed in making a mockery of his group one doubters was simply awesome. Best horse in my lifetime.
I'm a huge appreciate of Frankel is the most amazing racing horse... we have a lot of racing horse competitions, but no one can do like this...he prove his self he can do, better than the other athletics.... you're the best that I have seen...
Even the wonder horse black cavalar would have had trouble catching him as black cavalar trainer admitting it when he saw Frankel run in the Queen Anne were Frankel won by 11lenghs. Don't think we'll ever see a horse like him again truly a wonder horse.
Amazinggg they where saying this.. BEFORE his two greatest ever performances.. He improved about 2 or 3 lengths on what he showed as 3 year old.. And that's just remarkable, to say the least.
Here's a quote from the greatest jockey IMHO who won his first Derby in 1954 who has seen or ridden against the greats said after the judd. "Frankel is amazing, isn't he? He'd have been all right over a mile and a half in the Arc, Up to 10 furlongs, he's the best horse we've seen in our time." The way Frankel won the Judd. Also the way he cruised up to CDA on the bridle on Hy/Sft going and it still took TQ nearly 4f to pull him up. 12f wud B no prob. Highest rated horse ever by the IFHA
Good to see we have "common ground". Obviously, track records are going to be set on fast tracks, I didn't know that Secretariat had a big overseas following. Goldikova is a great "miler" horse. I was a huge fan of "Gorgeous" George Washington, and his tragic demise over here in the USA was a heartbreaker. His pedigree read like a "Who's Who" of horseracing. The Breeder's Cup is a great showcase for overseas horses. And then there is Phar Lap, a legendary horse who is an Australian hero.
I'm a huge Frankel fan. My favourite of all time. Though I have to be honest now I'm happy that he's retired. I'm utterly relieved he never faced Black Caviar over six furlongs. I never ever wanted Frankel to lose and it was just not his best distance anyway so all the talk of them facing was unfair on the pair of them since Black Caviar was a sprinter and Frankel the mile+. Why can't people just celebrate them both as horses of a lifetime ?
I am Australian and i will tell you Frankel was a four length better horse than Black Caviar. Black Caviar was the most overrated mollycoddled horse ever to come out of Australia. A pussy. Comparing Black Caviar to Frankel or Vain the best sprinter miler Australia has seen is an insult to those horses.
@@anneshaw9681 youre australian as much as England has hot weather,she would have brained him up to 1400 and id say she would do better at 1600 than he would at 1200.All the stats prove he had slower sectionals,no track records,no major wins like 3yo derbies or cups,refused invitations to travel overseas and race in inferior fields against 4 horse fields with one being his stable mate as the pacemaker wtf and never tested overseas,all things black caviar did he didnt and the only one in cotton wool was frankel
@CrawT speaking out your ass,she was in the uk smashed your best and youd think if they thought they could beat her they would have raced but they were to shit scared of her,also his connections themselves doubted he'd stay like the likes of sea the stars that why they refused to go to france,so if they doubted him there's no way you can say his the best,probably the best in the uk as a 3yo but thats where its stops with him
Well done Tom O'Ryan for the documentary. Well done Henry Cecil , Tom Queally and Frankel. Commentator note if a horse is off he is racing - this is tautology.
Yes world of sport showed his races every saturday and it like watching a horse from another planet the way he ran.they also had the races between affirmed and alydar and they were incredible.I had the pleasure of watching steve cauthen over here at york and he was a real gentleman and world class jockey,without doubt the best ever from overseas to ride here.I still have photos,He won the derby on slip anchor for frankels trainer henry cecil in brilliant style but i think he had weight problems
Wow. I am from New Zealand and have seen the Doctor in action also. Frankel also reminded me of him somehow. Yes! Its the stride. I have seen a large number of great racehorses. All I know is that they are all great. Il Tempo is the best stayer I have seen, although I can imagine Deep Impact was great also - never saw him. Sunday Silence, Deep Impact's dad is a great one also. Frankel is a phenomenon. However, we don't know who us best. Include the unbeaten old timers like Eclipse and Kincsem.
wanna hear something messed up. At one of the festivals, Frankel finished the mile in 1:37:xx which is a ridiculously good time for a mile in Europe, anyway, There was a group 2 Sprint that day which was pretty fast time over 5 furlongs. Frankel posted faster average Furlong times in his win than the winners average furlongs times in the sprint. wtf
@@roberto4001000 I know why that was though obviously. The filly happens to have ran 5 of her races faster than Frankel did over the same distance. One funny thing about Frankel, in one of his mile races his 1 furlong splits he recorder, 3 of the 5 were faster than the winner of the 5 furlong sprint over the same track the day before. MEaning he's a beast
Black Caviar was a sprinter and Frankel was a middle distance horse, as such it is rather pointless to compare them. Having said that, Frankel has been ranked by the professionals at 140, at least 2 or 3 places above Black Caviar. It is not often that sprinters are ranked so highly since they race at such a limited distance. I believe that Frankel is probably the best racehorse I have ever seen and Ive been following racing since the 1970's.
In the book that came out about Black Caviar after her retirement came a direct quote that came from Black Caviar's trainer, Peter Moody, that read as follows: "I've been around horses all my life and I've never known one better than Black Caviar. I find judging her place in history hard because I'm so close to her. That's why I've always deferred to other people's opinions. But what I do know is this, Black Caviar is the finest horse I had ever seen or worked with.........until I saw Frankel win the Queen Anne Stakes on that Tuesday at Royal-Ascot.".........End quote.
After all is said and done...Secretariat is the greatest ever, Frankel and Black caviar are out and out champs but Secretariats times are outer worldy...may never be broken.
Why did Frankel need to travel to the US to prove himself..? How many of their top horses there come over here, V few, and why, primarily because they're bred to perform on dirt, Frankel was not bred to race on that surface so why risk him..an example of the worst case scenario on that surface being George Washington, remember him anyone..? And why is 12f the ultimate marker, why is a miler/10f horse not worthy of greatness..? BC was never asked to be anything other than a sprinter & her ability was never doubted because of it. The day when another horse can go unbeaten over 3 seasons at the highest level will be a long time coming, even the very best get tend to get beat eventually but the only number against Frankel's name will only ever be 1....you simply cannot argue with that.....
+Gabriella Grummitt Your quite right and Frankel let the other horses go to America, Ireland and France that he ran against but when when they came back as winners he turned them back into losers.
@sue joarder the breeders cup mile is a turf race, excelebration flew 6.000 miles to california 2 weeks after running and winning at Ascot in the QE11 stakes on heavy ground
It mystfying how worldclass vets at Ascot found her ok after the race, Just a little tired yet Peter Moody and his team found her to be completely shot to bits. Yes I can take into account the morning after theory etc. Anyway the gallant mare got the job done, But Frankel is without a doubt the best racehorse in the world and the best racehorse I've seen in 25 years of watching this great sport...
Actually I did, and he was my favourite horse when I was young. It may well be that he was as good as Frankel, he had the speed, and more endurance than Frankel had. Nijinksky, though raced before the current ranking system was established, so its difficult to assess how good he really was. Its all very subjective; Nijinksky was our last triple crown winner, and had he won the 'Arc', would have finished his career unbeaten. Probably his brilliance has diminished with the passing of time.
Nijinsky was the best horse I've seen, he won the guineas on the bridle, the Derby on the bridle, and the St Leger on the bridle, this completing the triple crown, and was only beaten in the arc because he was sick horse, but Frankel was a great horse no doubt.
Track records dont mean a thing in this country as we race on all types of ground etc Most of the Track records have been set by some moderate animals on very fast ground so you can only base times on the day compared to the standard times for a particular race.but i was only winding you up about Secretariat ,he had a big following in this country when he was demolishing the opposition but even from a betting point of view he never let the punters down
Australia isn't known for its middle distance types, Since Coolmore and Darley are only starting to tap into Australia that may change in time. SYT was sired by High Chaparall after all. Frankel is a once in a lifetime horse, I have never seen a horse win a classic (2011 Guineas) in the fashion he did, He makes 128+/130+ horses look like statues look how he devastated Canford Cliffs, The talk of his injury...
the horse won it's 22nd race in a row. 22 is higher than 11. According to Wikipedia - Timeform Publications is a publishing company in Halifax, West Yorkshire, England founded in 1948 to provide information to fans, bettors, and others involved in the horse racing industry.
No absolutely! I'm with you all the way, I just find it sad that you can watch a video of an equine superstar and there is abusive comments under even this. Not having a go at you I think Aussies are just envious if anything, but don't bite back, its not worth the hassle. I love all racehorses Irish, French, German, Aussie does'nt matter.I see Frankel at JLT and SS and they were the best days ever, and although its not gonna happen, I just want 2 see him in the Arc. Frankel #1..
In the Queen Anne Frankel hit 42mph from the 2 pole to the 1 pole, That sectional was faster than any sectional ran in the King Stands Stakes. Even Black Caviar failedd to hit anything near 42mph in the Diamond Jubilee...
Sir Henry Cecil was extremely skilled in training Frankel; there is no point at all in racing a horse over a distance that doesnt suit them, just to please the public/media. Frankel proved himself against the best horses racing at that point in time. His ranking was based on the times he achieved, distances he won by etc. As for Excelebration, he probably didnt race well on dirt, and also the form doesnt look that great after Animal Kingdom was thrashed at Royal Ascot
@GBeret83 Totally agree mate. After his exploits last year and especially what Frankel did in the 2000 Guineas for me he became a legend. If he dominated at longer distances this year and could win a KG or Arc he would assume mythical status. I want to see him try, I can't see Frankel shirking the challenge. He's a warrior.
lol black caviar that JUST held on in a big field of mince when it came over here. Frankel would eat it over any distance. Thats why the Aussie horse was packed up and taken home..
Agreed GBeret, an Arc win would be spine tingling stuff. I hate to criticise Sir Henry but I don't understand why they would delay moving up in trip. Rumour has it he's likely to stay at 8f next time in the Queen Anne. I don't see him gaining any more kudos from winning more races at a mile, we all know he's untouchable there. What would increase his rating, his legend and silence any critics is to clean up at 10/12f. I'm sure he'll stay 10f at least and don't understand Cecil's cautiousness.
Some horses simply can't run on both turf and dirt. It requires a different stride, and some horses can't handle it. Usually in the USA, there are turf horses and there are dirt horses. They are "specialized". The great Secretariat had no problem with his two races on turf. He won both of them, including his last race. But then, there was only one Secretariat, and there will never be another in my lifetime.
Marcus Armytage, Telegraph “The fact is, a Horse’s ability is limited by whereabouts in the speed-stamina spectrum. Horses have either one or the other. Middle distance horses a bit of both until Frankel, who has lots of both. What makes him unique is his ability to go at G1 5f sprinter’s pace over distance. In Frankel, the racehorse breeders’ Holy Grail has been found , He is a lightning strike of genetics which has never been see before and may not be repeated for 100 years” Is this OK ;-)
Hey Wave, did you see the Frankel race today? How is your policy of always backing against him going? You are a great judge of a horse, mate. What a muppet!
yep Frankel mollycoddled by Cecil, never beat a decent miler, never won outside UK, never got a course record time...yet people say "Frankel the Greatest", loved watching Frankel but no way can you give rate him as good as DB or STS. He was flashy at home against sub standard horses. He performed in the QE2 though...I enjoyed that experience. Baeed has surpassed him already by whooping a world cup winner in Mishriff. Who did Frankel beat at world level? Nobody. I think he could have....but he was never challenged so you can't say he was the best.
@AJ Vindiesel Baaeed? 🤣 is that your attempt at sarcasm 🤔 the best horse Baaeed has ever beat was Modern Games, a decent horse without any doubt but is said to only be the third best at Appleby's stable, Mishriff is nowhere near the horse he was last season, and even when Baaeed beat him he got the race conditions in his favour, let's see him do that sort of thing of a real run race like Frankel did in the International.
Frankel is a miler - he won at longer distances than Black Caviar specialized in. She is a sprinter,winning races measured in furlongs. She might have beaten him in a sprint, but as the distance lengthened, he might have passed her. I have no idea how trainers decide which type of horse they have - sprinters, milers, horses that can compete in the Derby or the Arc - but it seems that they figure that out as they get to know their horses and decide which length race suits each particular horse.
The reason he doesn't seem to give his all is that he doesn't need to. When your winning margins are that big what's the point in killing the horse. I just think his step-up in distance in his last race, which he won by 7 lenghts against a top class field shows how good is is. When push came to shove both BC and Camalot were withdrawn from races against him. BC is a top class horse and I am more critical of the owners/ trainers than the horse.
yes yes and yes to everything you said bro lol.the only thing you left out is the breeders cup classic.i tend to think that the farther he goes the bigger the margains will be also.i hate the fact that some people label him a miler when i know this horse can be a champion anywhere from 6-12f on any surface.i think if he were entered into the classic he might win by 10.
Totally agree mate. They need to take the gloves off with Frankel. For me, their handling of him is contradictory. Firstly, he's been kept in training as a 4yo which was very sporting as he could have been rushed off to stud. This suggested a bold approach reflecting that Frankel is a gift to racing and the Prince wanted to see what the horse was capable of. We've seen plenty of what he can do at a mile and he may only have 3 or 4 races left. He'll easily get 10f, why are they delaying?
my own feelings is that he is running in the Queen Anne because he is looking towards the Eclipse as his first start over 10f. The Eclipse is only 2.5 weeks after the POW at Ascot so this could be why he doesn't want to give him a hard race in the POW. If he runs in the POW then i think the Eclipse would be unlikely so his next race would have to be the Sussex and the problem with that is that they probably wouldn't want him to go back down to 8f after running over 10f.
I think the standard of the Cox Plate and Australian racing comes into real effect when you consider that Helmet started favourite for a Cox Plate and won 3 Gr1's in Australia including a Caulfield Guineas and he couldn't get within 17 lengths of Frankel. End of discussion of the standard of Aussie racing. Its shite
Sure, he's been finishing his races with such power and ease it looks certain he'll get 10f comfortably. In fact, if you think about it, if he does stay the 10f he could well be even more devastating as by definition his 10f opposition will be slower than the milers. I don't think they need to be cautious with this horse. He is beyond brilliant and I want to see what he is capable of. I have a gut feeling he will stay 12f but will Sir Henry risk it?
Another point worth mentioning Black Caviar and Frankel are related through, in my opinion the Greatest racing line in the history of horse racing and that horse is Northern Dancer and in fact out of the 15 runners of the 2019 Epsom Derby 11 of the runners were related to Northern Dancer, obviously including the winner Anthony Van Dyke . This racing line is surely undisputed.
Hilarious all these muppets below saying black caviar was faster,black caviar was a 5 furlong sprinter,Frankel is a miler and the fastest ever over a mile.Black Caviars Times have been beaten by sprinters since it raced..There is no comparison,there is a reason why Frankel has the highest rating in horse racing history.
... And when i was alot younger i did a picture of ruffian and he didnt know who she was, i only found out who secretariat was a couple of years ago yet i have been ob the racing scene for a while
International Federation of Horseracing Authorities, World Thoroughbred Rankings Period 1 December 2011 to 28 May 2012. 1st Frankel(GB) ratingt 138, 2nd Black Caviar(Aus) rating 130 Its tough on BC to be around at the same time as Frankel, but get over it - its not even close!
My eyes tell me everything about how good frankel was and when a legend of the game like sir Henry Cecil says he’s the best he’s ever seen that’s good enough for me
YEP
I'm just getting into British horse racing. I'm starting with Frankel. In your opinion, who do you think is the best American racehorse in history?
@@walkawaycat431 I’ll be completely honest that I’ve not really followed American horse racing over the years because of the time difference and not huge coverage some 20 plus years ago but obviously have heard so much about secretariat and his awesome performances but also loved the Sunday silence,Easy goer battles of the late 80s early 90s.Also Flightline had so much potential and seeing some of his performances reminded me of Frankel and feel it’s such a shame he only ever had 6 races as racing is what they are bred for and really had the potential to stamp himself as the best
Say no more! The truth❤
I thoroughly enjoyed this. He has a lot of American admirers.
Thank you Carol, he’s special ❤️❤️
This Frankel Tribute 2012 is one of the best videos I've ever seen in horseracing coverage. Assuming the Tom O'Ryan credited at the start is the narrator of the piece, many, many thanks to him for posting a tribute to a surpassingly great horse that is actually worthy of the horse.
I smile every time I watch all 14 wins, RIP SIr Henry Cecil, you are missed sir.
Legendary horse !! Tears in my eyes ...Want to kiss Frankel ..
That 2000 Guineas race if you watched it live was F**king breathtaking
I completely agree
You very rarely see a classic race won on that way,to be 15 lengths clear at halfway and still win with such authority tells you that he was a very special horse and that’s without any of his other races
The horse, the jockey, the trainer. Awesome 👌
Agree with that. I know that Secretariat had a monstrous heart of 22 pounds. No one could argue his greatness. Frankel is also great. Who would win? I don't want to know. I love them both. I love all these great champs. We are all just lucky to see Frankel in action now.
Very fitting tribute ... 14 out of 14 races won .. what a legend!
I loved watching sir Henry crying over a wonderful horse
Love animals
Love horses
But Frankel is a Wonder of a horse.
Undescribable and unseen.
Seen a lot of champions on youtube nowadays.
But he stands out.
His presence stands for himself
Grateful to have witnessed him in my lifetime.
He pounds the ground with those front hooves and just swallows the ground, lifts his knees high and drives those feet into the ground, eating it up. Amazing!!!
The legendary Frankel.Im glad i was alive to see him.
Canford Cliffs and Excelebration were two seriously good milers and he made both look like common hacks. Anyone who questions this horses competition is not compos mentis.
Um how many of his vanquished went on to win group ones?none they were all average
@@russe19642 Cranford Cliffs won 6 Group 1's, Excelebration won 3 Group 1's and Farhh won 2 Group 1's to name a three. Next time you ask a rhetorical question make sure you do know the answer rather than showing up your incredible talent for redundancy.
@@potstrond well if you dont have the answer dont reply,i wasnt asking about the ones frakel beat that were already group one winners i was asking of the others he beat who went on to win group ones,i already know about canfords cliffs and the rest,but what about after frankel beat them.Winx beat 78 previous group one winners and 81 went on to win group ones after she beat them.By the looks of it frankels only claim to fame was beating canford cliffs who got injured during the running,other than that i dont see any other horses he beat go on to do anything substantial which means he did beat much,champion 3yo in uk yeah probably,worlds best i doubt it because he never ventured past the likes of canford cliffs and they needed to test him like they did with sea the stars but they were to shit scared he'd get beat and even the connections of frankel admitted they doubt he'd stay,so much for veing the worlds best totally overrated
@@russe19642 your answer betrays the redundancy of your argument once again. You simply make comparisons where none exist. Can I suggest you total up the Group 1's available in Australia as well as the number of horses who win Group 1's there and compare that to England, then adjust for length of career of horses in the UK versus Australia. If you still insist on making spurious comparisons after that it is proof that your jingositic prism is the issue and you are unable to escape from its lens. Winx was way more classy than a great deal of her fans and it is a pity that you should sully her record by making such inane commentary on Frankel.
@@potstrond big words get you nowhere buddy,if you claim he was the best how many of his opposition went onto anything of note,obviously none or youd have all the stats and facts and couldn't help yourself listing them like you did before.Just another backyard champion,so tell me of the ones he beat which ones went onto group one glory.if ya havent got anything don't say anything
Absolutely excellent video.. gives me goose-bumps! Thank you for creating it!
I'm from america..love horse racing I got to say Frankel was a monster would of loved to see him run in the U.S..greatest ever
His performance in the 2000 Guineas over a course whose expanse and "lack of reference points" for a
horse is probably the best guide to his courage and racing superiority.
So many great horses 🐎 Frankel is one of them
Brings tears to the eyes. Such wonderful memories ❤
I REALLY hope this man will produce another documentary,on Frankel's ENTIRE career.
Anyone who remembers his dad Galileo will know just why Frankel was so talented. His dad was pretty special and has sired many winners so can you imagine what Frankel's progeny are gonna be like?
i thought the best horse i ever saw was nijinsky but to watch frankel took my breath away the greatest
God bless "Frankel" ..the best racehorse ; that the world has even seen!!
I was there at the Juddmnonte to witness him in the flesh. I'm a York lad and have been lucky enough to witness some great performances by great horses at the Knavesemire over the past 30 years. The display of power that Frankel showed in making a mockery of his group one doubters was simply awesome. Best horse in my lifetime.
Best , Beautiful horse !!
I love him always will, he is the best of all time, fact
Fue un maravilloso y extraordinario caballo, pero en modo alguno el mejor de todos los tiempos. Está muy lejos de serlo.
Fantastic narration!
I'm a huge appreciate of Frankel is the most amazing racing horse...
we have a lot of racing horse competitions, but no one can do like this...he prove his self he can do, better than the other athletics.... you're the best that I have seen...
Even the wonder horse black cavalar would have had trouble catching him as black cavalar trainer admitting it when he saw Frankel run in the Queen Anne were Frankel won by 11lenghs. Don't think we'll ever see a horse like him again truly a wonder horse.
The king of Kings greatest thing I've ever saw in sport no lie
It would help if you learned English!
RT.
Amazinggg they where saying this.. BEFORE his two greatest ever performances.. He improved about 2 or 3 lengths on what he showed as 3 year old.. And that's just remarkable, to say the least.
Here's a quote from the greatest jockey IMHO who won his first Derby in 1954 who has seen or ridden against the greats said after the judd.
"Frankel is amazing, isn't he? He'd have been all right over a mile and a half in the Arc, Up to 10 furlongs, he's the best horse we've seen in our time."
The way Frankel won the Judd. Also the way he cruised up to CDA on the bridle on Hy/Sft going and it still took TQ nearly 4f to pull him up. 12f wud B no prob. Highest rated horse ever by the IFHA
Frankel, head on one side? I think he was looking at his "opponent" and said "you've no chance mate, bye!" 😂
@19:20, why are the horses strolling casually out of the gate???
Frankel. Legend. Simple!
RIP Henry a real gentleman
Good to see we have "common ground". Obviously, track records are going to be set on fast tracks, I didn't know that Secretariat had a big overseas following.
Goldikova is a great "miler" horse. I was a huge fan of "Gorgeous" George Washington, and his tragic demise over here in the USA was a heartbreaker. His pedigree read like a "Who's Who" of horseracing.
The Breeder's Cup is a great showcase for overseas horses.
And then there is Phar Lap, a legendary horse who is an Australian hero.
I named my son after Frankel. ❤
Beautiful name❤
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I'm a huge Frankel fan. My favourite of all time. Though I have to be honest now I'm happy that he's retired. I'm utterly relieved he never faced Black Caviar over six furlongs. I never ever wanted Frankel to lose and it was just not his best distance anyway so all the talk of them facing was unfair on the pair of them since Black Caviar was a sprinter and Frankel the mile+. Why can't people just celebrate them both as horses of a lifetime ?
I am Australian and i will tell you Frankel was a four length better horse than Black Caviar. Black Caviar was the most overrated mollycoddled horse ever to come out of Australia. A pussy.
Comparing Black Caviar to Frankel or Vain the best sprinter miler Australia has seen is an insult to those horses.
@@anneshaw9681 youre australian as much as England has hot weather,she would have brained him up to 1400 and id say she would do better at 1600 than he would at 1200.All the stats prove he had slower sectionals,no track records,no major wins like 3yo derbies or cups,refused invitations to travel overseas and race in inferior fields against 4 horse fields with one being his stable mate as the pacemaker wtf and never tested overseas,all things black caviar did he didnt and the only one in cotton wool was frankel
@CrawT speaking out your ass,she was in the uk smashed your best and youd think if they thought they could beat her they would have raced but they were to shit scared of her,also his connections themselves doubted he'd stay like the likes of sea the stars that why they refused to go to france,so if they doubted him there's no way you can say his the best,probably the best in the uk as a 3yo but thats where its stops with him
Sunline would have picked Black Caviar and carried her over 1200m or 1400m. They weren't even her best distances.
Well done Tom O'Ryan for the documentary. Well done Henry Cecil , Tom Queally and Frankel. Commentator note if a horse is off he is racing - this is tautology.
Yes world of sport showed his races every saturday and it like watching a horse from another planet the way he ran.they also had the races between affirmed and alydar and they were incredible.I had the pleasure of watching steve cauthen over here at york and he was a real gentleman and world class jockey,without doubt the best ever from overseas to ride here.I still have photos,He won the derby on slip anchor for frankels trainer henry cecil in brilliant style but i think he had weight problems
Wow. I am from New Zealand and have seen the Doctor in action also. Frankel also reminded me of him somehow. Yes! Its the stride. I have seen a large number of great racehorses. All I know is that they are all great. Il Tempo is the best stayer I have seen, although I can imagine Deep Impact was great also - never saw him. Sunday Silence, Deep Impact's dad is a great one also. Frankel is a phenomenon. However, we don't know who us best. Include the unbeaten old timers like Eclipse and Kincsem.
wanna hear something messed up. At one of the festivals, Frankel finished the mile in 1:37:xx which is a ridiculously good time for a mile in Europe, anyway, There was a group 2 Sprint that day which was pretty fast time over 5 furlongs. Frankel posted faster average Furlong times in his win than the winners average furlongs times in the sprint. wtf
And sea the stars ran the guineas quicker than Frankel and so did the filly in the 1000 the next day ....go figure 👍
@@roberto4001000 I know why that was though obviously. The filly happens to have ran 5 of her races faster than Frankel did over the same distance. One funny thing about Frankel, in one of his mile races his 1 furlong splits he recorder, 3 of the 5 were faster than the winner of the 5 furlong sprint over the same track the day before. MEaning he's a beast
@@roberto4001000 kameko was faster in the guineas, so was WORKFORCE in the derby. Like you said, go figure
Black Caviar was a sprinter and Frankel was a middle distance horse, as such it is rather pointless to compare them. Having said that, Frankel has been ranked by the professionals at 140, at least 2 or 3 places above Black Caviar. It is not often that sprinters are ranked so highly since they race at such a limited distance. I believe that Frankel is probably the best racehorse I have ever seen and Ive been following racing since the 1970's.
Frankel the star of the show always
Best miler of all time.
2000 was the best single performance ever
In the book that came out about Black Caviar after her retirement came a direct quote that came from Black Caviar's trainer, Peter Moody, that read as follows: "I've been around horses all my life and I've never known one better than Black Caviar. I find judging her place in history hard because I'm so close to her. That's why I've always deferred to other people's opinions. But what I do know is this, Black Caviar is the finest horse I had ever seen or worked with.........until I saw Frankel win the Queen Anne Stakes on that Tuesday at Royal-Ascot.".........End quote.
GREATEST HORSE EVER,,PERFECTION.
He's the best miler since brigadier gerard. It's as simple as that. All those group ones don't lie.
You are welcome. Yes it was. Glad you found it worthy of comment. (Tongue in cheek WP).
11 from 11 now...love this horse
After all is said and done...Secretariat is the greatest ever, Frankel and Black caviar are out and out champs but Secretariats times are outer worldy...may never be broken.
Rest in peace Tom great man
Tom ain’t dead?
gladiator, man o'war , secrétariat, seabiscuit ,ribot , war admiral,sea-bird ,american pharoah ,Frankel True champion
and sea the stars, and Zenyatta, and Black Caviar
Why did Frankel need to travel to the US to prove himself..? How many of their top horses there come over here, V few, and why, primarily because they're bred to perform on dirt, Frankel was not bred to race on that surface so why risk him..an example of the worst case scenario on that surface being George Washington, remember him anyone..? And why is 12f the ultimate marker, why is a miler/10f horse not worthy of greatness..? BC was never asked to be anything other than a sprinter & her ability was never doubted because of it. The day when another horse can go unbeaten over 3 seasons at the highest level will be a long time coming, even the very best get tend to get beat eventually but the only number against Frankel's name will only ever be 1....you simply cannot argue with that.....
Gabriella Grummitt Well said Gabriella
+Gabriella Grummitt Your quite right and Frankel let the other horses go to America, Ireland and France that he ran against but when when they came back as winners he turned them back into losers.
+Gabriella Grummitt I remember George Washington, the 2006 2000 Guineas winner and I think the QEII at Ascot.
Too true. A beast! :)
@sue joarder the breeders cup mile is a turf race, excelebration flew 6.000 miles to california 2 weeks after running and winning at Ascot in the QE11 stakes on heavy ground
Frankel is Amazing
I love this guy doing the narration. Who is he?
It mystfying how worldclass vets at Ascot found her ok after the race, Just a little tired yet Peter Moody and his team found her to be completely shot to bits. Yes I can take into account the morning after theory etc. Anyway the gallant mare got the job done, But Frankel is without a doubt the best racehorse in the world and the best racehorse I've seen in 25 years of watching this great sport...
Franker was absolute monster
Actually I did, and he was my favourite horse when I was young. It may well be that he was as good as Frankel, he had the speed, and more endurance than Frankel had. Nijinksky, though raced before the current ranking system was established, so its difficult to assess how good he really was. Its all very subjective; Nijinksky was our last triple crown winner, and had he won the 'Arc', would have finished his career unbeaten. Probably his brilliance has diminished with the passing of time.
Nijinsky was the best horse I've seen, he won the guineas on the bridle, the Derby on the bridle, and the St Leger on the bridle, this completing the triple crown, and was only beaten in the arc because he was sick horse, but Frankel was a great horse no doubt.
Track records dont mean a thing in this country as we race on all types of ground etc
Most of the Track records have been set by some moderate animals on very fast ground so you can only base times on the day compared to the standard times for a particular race.but i was only winding you up about Secretariat ,he had a big following in this country when he was demolishing the opposition but even from a betting point of view he never let the punters down
Australia isn't known for its middle distance types, Since Coolmore and Darley are only starting to tap into Australia that may change in time. SYT was sired by High Chaparall after all. Frankel is a once in a lifetime horse, I have never seen a horse win a classic (2011 Guineas) in the fashion he did, He makes 128+/130+ horses look like statues look how he devastated Canford Cliffs, The talk of his injury...
the horse won it's 22nd race in a row. 22 is higher than 11. According to Wikipedia - Timeform Publications is a publishing company in Halifax, West Yorkshire, England founded in 1948 to provide information to fans, bettors, and others involved in the horse racing industry.
Okie man . !^.^
What a horse, the best i've ever seen in my lifetime. I could jockey that horse and it would win by a country mile!
Would love to have seen Frankel go for the derby n Arc...grest horse.
No absolutely! I'm with you all the way, I just find it sad that you can watch a video of an equine superstar and there is abusive comments under even this. Not having a go at you I think Aussies are just envious if anything, but don't bite back, its not worth the hassle. I love all racehorses Irish, French, German, Aussie does'nt matter.I see Frankel at JLT and SS and they were the best days ever, and although its not gonna happen, I just want 2 see him in the Arc. Frankel #1..
Yes. MAN.
In the Queen Anne Frankel hit 42mph from the 2 pole to the 1 pole, That sectional was faster than any sectional ran in the King Stands Stakes. Even Black Caviar failedd to hit anything near 42mph in the Diamond Jubilee...
I never knew that but that’s exactly the reason why for me he was unbeatable
Sir Henry Cecil was extremely skilled in training Frankel; there is no point at all in racing a horse over a distance that doesnt suit them, just to please the public/media. Frankel proved himself against the best horses racing at that point in time. His ranking was based on the times he achieved, distances he won by etc. As for Excelebration, he probably didnt race well on dirt, and also the form doesnt look that great after Animal Kingdom was thrashed at Royal Ascot
@GBeret83 Totally agree mate. After his exploits last year and especially what Frankel did in the 2000 Guineas for me he became a legend. If he dominated at longer distances this year and could win a KG or Arc he would assume mythical status. I want to see him try, I can't see Frankel shirking the challenge. He's a warrior.
Frankel's Epsom Derby and back to back Arc wins will never be matched.
I do hope you are thinking of enable and not Frankel. Frankel never ran past 1 mile and 2 furlongs so never raced in a derby or an Arc.
@@sx200n1 Its called Sarcasm.
@@slide_drexler just checking. Lol. Too many idiots on TH-cam so you have to check
Looks like the Lasix was working well that day then?
lol black caviar that JUST held on in a big field of mince when it came over here. Frankel would eat it over any distance. Thats why the Aussie horse was packed up and taken home..
Agreed GBeret, an Arc win would be spine tingling stuff. I hate to criticise Sir Henry but I don't understand why they would delay moving up in trip. Rumour has it he's likely to stay at 8f next time in the Queen Anne. I don't see him gaining any more kudos from winning more races at a mile, we all know he's untouchable there. What would increase his rating, his legend and silence any critics is to clean up at 10/12f. I'm sure he'll stay 10f at least and don't understand Cecil's cautiousness.
Jeah Frankel surely the best for his time. I don´t know wheather he beat Sekreteriat or Seabird. This answer you never get to know. Gentle Greets
Machine as a 3 year old brilliant no better racehorse imo
The horse 🐎 king🤴= FRANKEL 😎
Frankel hardly ever felt the whip....he ran for Love...and he was loved...
Some horses simply can't run on both turf and dirt. It requires a different stride, and some horses can't handle it. Usually in the USA, there are turf horses and there are dirt horses. They are "specialized".
The great Secretariat had no problem with his two races on turf. He won both of them, including his last race.
But then, there was only one Secretariat, and there will never be another in my lifetime.
Marcus Armytage, Telegraph “The fact is, a Horse’s ability is limited by whereabouts in the speed-stamina spectrum. Horses have either one or the other. Middle distance horses a bit of both until Frankel, who has lots of both. What makes him unique is his ability to go at G1 5f sprinter’s pace over distance. In Frankel, the racehorse breeders’ Holy Grail has been found , He is a lightning strike of genetics which has never been see before and may not be repeated for 100 years”
Is this OK ;-)
We love u Henry Cecil xxxx
Hey Wave, did you see the Frankel race today? How is your policy of always backing against him going? You are a great judge of a horse, mate. What a muppet!
yep Frankel mollycoddled by Cecil, never beat a decent miler, never won outside UK, never got a course record time...yet people say "Frankel the Greatest", loved watching Frankel but no way can you give rate him as good as DB or STS. He was flashy at home against sub standard horses. He performed in the QE2 though...I enjoyed that experience. Baeed has surpassed him already by whooping a world cup winner in Mishriff. Who did Frankel beat at world level? Nobody. I think he could have....but he was never challenged so you can't say he was the best.
Well you've always got haters popping up here and there no one really gives 2 hoots about your comment
@@patricksmith3432 'Haters'...what a teenage comment to make, can't accept there's arguments to every argument. Pathetic...and a bullying trait.
@AJ Vindiesel
Baaeed? 🤣 is that your attempt at sarcasm 🤔 the best horse Baaeed has ever beat was Modern Games, a decent horse without any doubt but is said to only be the third best at Appleby's stable, Mishriff is nowhere near the horse he was last season, and even when Baaeed beat him he got the race conditions in his favour, let's see him do that sort of thing of a real run race like Frankel did in the International.
@@nightowl7459 who said Baeed? Are you drunk?
@@ajvindiesel8517 "Baaeed has surpassed him already by whooping a world cup winner in Mishriff " do you not even know what you typed? Are you stupid?
Frankel is a miler - he won at longer distances than Black Caviar specialized in. She is a sprinter,winning races measured in furlongs. She might have beaten him in a sprint, but as the distance lengthened, he might have passed her. I have no idea how trainers decide which type of horse they have - sprinters, milers, horses that can compete in the Derby or the Arc - but it seems that they figure that out as they get to know their horses and decide which length race suits each particular horse.
The reason he doesn't seem to give his all is that he doesn't need to. When your winning margins are that big what's the point in killing the horse. I just think his step-up in distance in his last race, which he won by 7 lenghts against a top class field shows how good is is. When push came to shove both BC and Camalot were withdrawn from races against him. BC is a top class horse and I am more critical of the owners/ trainers than the horse.
Secretariat (my father said) and the 'Sea the Stars' are the best i've seen...until...FRANKEL = genius= best in history
Sea the stars was better than hiim
yes yes and yes to everything you said bro lol.the only thing you left out is the breeders cup classic.i tend to think that the farther he goes the bigger the margains will be also.i hate the fact that some people label him a miler when i know this horse can be a champion anywhere from 6-12f on any surface.i think if he were entered into the classic he might win by 10.
Totally agree mate. They need to take the gloves off with Frankel. For me, their handling of him is contradictory. Firstly, he's been kept in training as a 4yo which was very sporting as he could have been rushed off to stud. This suggested a bold approach reflecting that Frankel is a gift to racing and the Prince wanted to see what the horse was capable of. We've seen plenty of what he can do at a mile and he may only have 3 or 4 races left. He'll easily get 10f, why are they delaying?
my own feelings is that he is running in the Queen Anne because he is looking towards the Eclipse as his first start over 10f. The Eclipse is only 2.5 weeks after the POW at Ascot so this could be why he doesn't want to give him a hard race in the POW. If he runs in the POW then i think the Eclipse would be unlikely so his next race would have to be the Sussex and the problem with that is that they probably wouldn't want him to go back down to 8f after running over 10f.
I think the standard of the Cox Plate and Australian racing comes into real effect when you consider that Helmet started favourite for a Cox Plate and won 3 Gr1's in Australia including a Caulfield Guineas and he couldn't get within 17 lengths of Frankel. End of discussion of the standard of Aussie racing. Its shite
Sure, he's been finishing his races with such power and ease it looks certain he'll get 10f comfortably. In fact, if you think about it, if he does stay the 10f he could well be even more devastating as by definition his 10f opposition will be slower than the milers. I don't think they need to be cautious with this horse. He is beyond brilliant and I want to see what he is capable of. I have a gut feeling he will stay 12f but will Sir Henry risk it?
Sick of people comparing his engine and cruising speed he would've coasted past all the old horses of yesteryear
Another point worth mentioning Black Caviar and Frankel are related through, in my opinion the Greatest racing line in the history of horse racing and that horse is Northern Dancer and in fact out of the 15 runners of the 2019 Epsom Derby 11 of the runners were related to Northern Dancer, obviously including the winner Anthony Van Dyke . This racing line is surely undisputed.
Hilarious all these muppets below saying black caviar was faster,black caviar was a 5 furlong sprinter,Frankel is a miler and the fastest ever over a mile.Black Caviars Times have been beaten by sprinters since it raced..There is no comparison,there is a reason why Frankel has the highest rating in horse racing history.
... And when i was alot younger i did a picture of ruffian and he didnt know who she was, i only found out who secretariat was a couple of years ago yet i have been ob the racing scene for a while
His name comes up at the start of the video
International Federation of Horseracing Authorities, World Thoroughbred Rankings Period
1 December 2011 to 28 May 2012.
1st Frankel(GB) ratingt 138,
2nd Black Caviar(Aus) rating 130
Its tough on BC to be around at the same time as Frankel, but get over it - its not even close!