Also, question. Could you make a video about tripods? I have a tripod, but it isn't very compact, and when it's strapped to my camera bag, it runs into walls because it sticks out on the sides. I'm looking into buying a compunction tripod, but don't know what to buy. If you would make a video, that would be AWESOME! Thanks, Carter Inosencio.
Think Media I think video quality you should go for the SL2 because they both have the same sensors and nearly everything. So basically your getting a camper $400 cheaper and does pretty much the same video quality.
Hey, sorry I'm a little late, just saw your comment from before. I shoot ASMR videos with it. Although I'm going to start vlogging very soon. (Couldn't before because no auto-focus). You can see videos I took with the SL2 & T3i for comparison on my channel! :D
Im a pro - I own all three and 3 ff canons as well - The SL2 is my go to for travel - but it really depends on what you are shooting - if you are shooting sports photos - get the better cameras with more focus points, but if you are shooting portraits, the SL2 with the 50mm f/1.8 is tough to beat - it also has the newer sensor - I find the color to be a tad better actually on the SL2 than the 80D - but nothing compared to my 5D or 6D, as expected since they are FF cameras - bottom line - size matters when you travel... the SL2 is a home run in most respects for this. - great Low Light performance as well - even at high ISO's the camera doesn't show grain as much as the 80D - not horrible but you can see it - just my 2 cents :-)
QOTD: I think this confirmed what I already knew but hate.. I need the 80D, I'll just have to suck it up and fork over that money. Thank you so much Sean.
T7i has the Digic 7 which offers better image quality, 5-Axis Image Stabilization, improved low-light performance and subject tracking. 80D is void of those features and is heavier with a gimmicky screen and weather proofing that I don't need. T7i for me, thanks!
Went with the 80d here! We decided that the growth opportunities out weighted everything else. Spend a little more upfront but we can grow into it instead of having to buy more later on.
I got the 80D when it came out, it's my first camera ever and it's fantastic! I know it's overkill for a first camera, but I wanted something that would age well and it was definitely the rigth choice. I shoot video alone so the amazing autofocus feature saves me a lot of pain, battery life is also great and it's holding up nicely after two years. Now I'm saving for a second camera (I do drumming videos so I need a second POV) and it's definitely going to be the 200D. Once I save up some more money I'm getting the 50mm and the 10-18mm. Thanks for the great review!
What do the change in lens mm do? I'm new to cameras and don't know shit. I'm looking at the 80D just because all video footage I've seen of it looks sexy. What else do I need other than the camera body itself? What are the different lenses for? I've seen many professional video makers have lenses with hill-shaped figures round the sides of the lense, is that to block out light? Would be much appreciated if you could answer these. Thanks.
@@RealityClubX Just search videos on youtube. I am new as well but these answers can be found easily within youtube itself. I have the 80D with the kit lens (18-135 mm) and I just got the 24 mm f/2.8 The difference is the kit lens has a FOCAL LENGTH that ranges between 18mm to 135mm whereas the 24mm is set and cannot change, its set at 24. However the "f/2.8" is your aperture which is the amount of "bokeh" or blurry background you can get in your photos/videos. the 18-135 has a f/3.5-5.6 which is TERRIBLE. Therefore, I am extremely happy to have a 24mm that cannot change but has a f/2.8 rather than a kit lens like a 18-55mm or 18-3.5 which has a low f stop or "f/3.5-5.6". You'll pick up on these things very quickly when you watch videos on youtube. This guy has some decent videos, for example: th-cam.com/video/Jd2T-gJJiKc/w-d-xo.html Hope this helps. God Bless
@@RealityClubX - To answer your question, the higher the mm for a lense, the closer the object will appear in your viewscreen. The 18-135mm is vey nice, but when you really want to step it up, then give Rokinon lenses a try. The quality of those lenses are something special! They are fully manual and are at a fixed length, but if you are looking to make your videos look next level, then Rokinon is the best choice without taking your wallet completely away. The link is a chart to show you comparisons of focal length: www.photomodeler.com/kb/what_is_camera_focal_length/ www.nikonusa.com/en/learn-and-explore/a/tips-and-techniques/understanding-focal-length.html
You are now my favorite film/photography channel. You can see the superiorty of knowledge, content quality and production on this channel compared to other TH-camrs who don't really know what they're doing! Good job
If you settle on the t7i I'd say consider the 77D instead. You get an additional LCD info display and video stabilization built in for pretty much the same price.
Because Sean is mostly viewed by creators that are just starting up their channels/social media. I think it would be fair to say that the SL2 is exactly what we're looking for. Most affordable of the three and still has many of the same features as the other two. I've been trying to save up for an SL2 since October (when I started my channel). Now I am sure this is the way to go!
I've used a T5i and a 6D in college when learning film and man, knowing the strengths of both those and seeing this video I'm really struggling to decide between these two. I want the image quality of the 80D but T7i is cheaper. Ugh!
I purchased the SL2 a week ago and this is my first Digital camera. For those who are just getting their first digital camera like I am need to consider not only the price of the kit camera but a 50mm prime Lens (1.8 f stop), SD cards, extra batteries, bag, tripod, lens covers, etc. My start up cost is $1000. Also, I would recommend joining a local photography club. As far as the SL2, it takes wonderful pictures and video. I know I will get years of great service out of this camera and possibly someday move up to a more professional camera down the road. All the best. Jim from Milton, GA
I purchased the Canon 80D back in early 2016 and it's still going strong now. I had purchased Rokinon lenses and the video quality is off the charts! The native 18-135mm lense is awesome still to this day! If you know how to set the 80D up, your photos and videos will impress without question! Thanks for the video because my son was looking at the SL2!
Great comparison. I felt very good about my SL2 purchase before, being a beginner and all, but now I am confident that I made a great choice. Thanks for the videos and all your instruction.
This is why Cannon is failing behind the competition. They have 3 entry level cameras that are so close to one another and try to hook new people that don't know anything into buying them. Now, I want to say I bought a T5i last year, and given what I thought I wanted at the time, I love that camera. I can still learn a ton of stuff on that thing so its a great training camera. But knowing what I know now for anyone that wants to get into video, these cameras are still a few years behind what Panasonic is doing. The 3 advantages you get with Cannon: 1) Best Auto Focus. Even then, you will learn manual focus is best for video so this is not that big of an advantage, unless your just doing VLog'n. 2) Good Color Science. You wont really have to worry about color correcting. And if you want to get into Color Correcting, your going to find out that the 4:2:0 8 bit is not enough. 3) Cheap Lens. Got to admit, if you new, the idea of spending a ton on lens is daunting. You can get some usable lens to learn with on a Cannon system. Don't be afraid to buy used! If video is your goal, invest in Panasonic. Might cost a wee bit more for lens, but once your ready to upgrade into a beefier camera, the GH5 and G9, are class leading cameras. Panasonic, is pushing camera tech for consumers and professionals alike. Cannon is relying on its heritage to stay a float, but soon it too might disappear with Kodak if they don't innovate soon! My recommendations: G9 for aprox $500 gets you 4k and into the brand and holds a ton of value. Better then the SL2 and T7i G85 for aprox $1000 gets you 4k, weather sealed, and image stabilization. Better then the 80D
does focus point number make HUGE difference between sl2 and t7i in photography I'm asking this because i would use sl2 for both:video and photo. And I would rather buy sl2 and then buy 50 mm 1.8 than just t7i please help me somehow
Hey man, I just wanted to let you know how impressive your content really is. You take long cuts with what appears to be little edits. You have great and proper speech etiquette with zero stalls. "umm" or "ahh's". Very well done!!
I'm glad you said you didn't think there wasn't much of a difference between the Digic6 and Digic7 processor. I've been worried about that with my choice to buy the 80d
I don't know all the specifics here, but I think the only noticeable difference is that the digic 7 has higher ISO performance. In all seriousness, you will never use the highest ISO on the 80D (26500), as your images would be garbage, so it's not a big deal. I think otherwise its has the typical tweeks, like slightly better noise performance and slightly better color processing, things you wouldn't really notice in a single generation jump. Hell, you likely wouldn't notice if you came up from a couple generations, not unless you are making large prints.
I own both the SL1 and 80D camera. I started with the SL1 and was really happy with it, but then as my lens collection grew the heavier lenses were making the SL1 harder to hold with its light weight and small grip which the 80D handles much better. So for me I use the SL1 as my casual walk around camera. And then I break out my 80D for the more of the heavy duty photo sessions.
upgraded to an 80D with a sigma 18-35mm ART lens (80d is not full frame so 25 to 50mm approx).....FAB....doubled the quality of 1080 from my old 2Ti...love the live focus and sound monitoring on the 80D
One thing I discovered when looking for a refurbished camera from Canon for primarily creating TH-cam content videos and looking at these three is that the T7i doesn't have an option for monitoring the audio levels being recorded. For me, that's a killer, as I need to make sure the audio isn't too low or too high and clipping. I have a 70d, and use this every time I record to verify my levels. I seem to recall that you capture your audio using an external device, and thus don't use the camera-recorded audio, so perhaps that's why you didn't mention it in your comparison.
I had a Canon Rebel T6i, but was disappointed with the autofocus, so thanks to your reviews, I picked up the Canon Rebel SL2 (Used like new on Amazon for $480 Body Only). So thank you man :) Also I think it would sound better if you said "things I may have missed" instead of saying forgot. Just sounds better IMO. But anyway I subbed because I run into your videos a lot when I need to look up tips and stuff and I like it here :)
Wouldn't say the 200D and 800D are prosumer, more hobby/beginner. 80D is THE prosumer camera of Canon. For pro you need to start looking at the 5D or 1D (if you have the budget...). If you decide to make the investment of a 80D also definitely save up for some good glass. I can recommend the 10-18mm, 24mm 2.8, but also the 18-135 nano USM kitlens are great options to take it to the next level! For beginner photographers the 800D/T7i is a great starter camera with those autofocus points. really recommend a 50mm 1.8 for all these cameras, super cheap, yet sharp and great depth of field.
Thanks so much for your videos! I bought the Canon Rebel t6 and was completely disappointed when I discovered that it was incredibly difficult to shoot vlogs. It won't focus on my face and has no external mic. Regardless, I wanted to shoot video and launch my channel, so I'm using my iPhone6 for now. My next purchase will be the Canon SL2 thanks to your awesome reviews. Thank you so much!
I just picked up the 80D on Canon's site, refurbished for $679 with the kit lens. Hard to beat that deal. Camera looks brand new and comes with everything a new model gets.
@@Renewed85 found a eBay seller... Looking back idk if it was a deeeaallll deal but still love what I got and got it was pretty cheap for almost brand new stuff
@michael Great comment. However I’m new to photography; is there anyway to explain the point auto focus features and how they are are effective for photography? Sorry I’m new and am also debating between buying one of the two; thanks!!
Great video man! Thanks for take your time to go so in-depth about them in so little time, awesome! For me 80D because is weather sealed and I use it a lot for fog and rainy days pics. Thanks again man. Keep enjoying what you love!
I have been looking for hours about which camera I should buy between Canon, Nikon, DSLR or mirrorless. Sir this video explained everything perfectly. THANK YOU!
I'm a still photographer that upgraded to the 80D from my trusty 60D and can't really speak regarding the SL2 and T7i. However, I can say that I'm loving the build quality of the 80D as I do a lot of hiking. Of course, the performance is great and I've paired it with some nice glass - loving the results.
Sean you are killing me! I just got the M3, then you make the video on the SL2 and now the 80D (ADD)! :D Btw, your sound level if out of this world, best TH-camr in that regard!
My grandfather brought this for me a few years ago before he passed away I wanted a t6i and he was WAY into photography and wanted the best he could get for me and was always well researched on this stuff. Sometimes I wonder if he ever watched this video 😀
For me it's always about audio. I got my first DSLR as a graduation gift from college and it's still what I shoot on. Since then I have spent more on enhancing my sounds game, I love these videos because let's be honest, the tech lust is real, but I won't be sold on another body until I see 4k come down the pipe in the Canon Ti# line. That's what I'm waiting for.
you'll be waiting for a damn long time, the 5d m4 just got it, so id say the next would be the 7d, then maybe the ti lines. i would expect 4k in the ti line within 3-4 years
Sebastian Smith i’d say i’m an audio snob i’m currently saving for a rode video mic pro plus before even upgrading my body i still don’t have auto focus what do you use for audio?
Love My 80D. Shot night video and pics for the first time in the square tonight and was very pleased with what I captured on a mono-pod. Christmas lights came out really well and only one time with more noise than I would have liked. Thanks for another great video!
SUPER HELPFUL!!!! I was considering getting the T7i, but I want to really invest and have a camera for years soooo the 80D is what I'm going to go for!
Awesome as always!! Have you ever made a video about backing up footage, external hardrives and your folder system? I am currently running into some problems with that
T7i and 80D are so far from each other in price and yet so close! I am going for the 80D because of battery life and video. Bad for vlogging because of weight but hey, less work out at the gym. I still have my T5i which I can sell for a good price. Thanks for the video Sean. Respect for your wife for helping out and supporting! Mine is shy ☺️
Great video. By todays options: we now have Canon SL3, Canon 77D, Canon 90D (or ... you will still find the links you posted below the video are still active as I tested them for SL2, T7i and 80D, Canon and Amazon still selling them as part of Canon's regular inventory. So someone might get a deal on cameras from a few years ago priced lower than newer models, and working just fine for vlogging.) My Canon 80D with good lighting works great for video you tubing.
This video is exactly the first one I watched when trying I started researching 3 weeks ago to choose cameras for a new TH-cam channel for an environmental non-profit that supports businesses. We will be doing interviews and for the set we built, want a 2 camera shoot. I've learned that two SL2s would have gotten the job done but In the end, purchased a Canon SL2 and a Canon T7i (in case we want to take photos). So far, our tests are going well and will be posting our first videos by the end of the month. It's amazing how many of my questions, you answered here on Think Media and on Video Influencers. I've already recommended you to 5 people who ask me about what we're doing. I still need to figure out what to do with this channel (Green Certified Web), it's being replaced and we incorporated the organization that replaced it but if that's my biggest problem, I'm in pretty good shape! Keep up the great work! I'm sure you're helping a lot of people, thanks Sean :)
When is the 90D coming out? I do not have a camera for TH-cam videos yet but have some experience as to how the DSLRs work. Should I buy the 80D or wait a few months for the 90D????
You always help a lot, thank you Sean!! And my question is about the AUDIO control. The 80D has AGC or Automatic Gain Control AND manual control. Some cameras only have AGC and you cant control the audio your self. In the last case, in AGC only, when you speak, audio is OK but on the talk pauses, the gain goes hi and brings a lot of background noise. Does SL2 and T7i have manual audio control or they have AGC only?? Best from Ari in Brazil !!
SL2 is the pick... film making doesn’t necessarily need auto focus. We like to be able to manually rack focus. Or outfitting your camera with a follow focus rig with matte box
Likely becasue there is no bundle that includes the 18-135mm lens, which is needed for the power zoom accessory. You would be better off jsut getting a Rode mic on it's own, unless you wanted that power zoom, in which case you would probably be better off with the 80D. (this assumes that people that would be using it are making higher level content, and can justify the added cost).
Also a good choice, though the SL2 and T7i are jsut about the same for video. The T7i is a better camera for shooting action, as it has the 45 pt AF system as well as a surprising 6FPS burst, jsut 1 frame less than the 80D, or the 5D for that matter! It also features built in stabilization for video (not for stills), though it is not as ideal as using IS lenses. I think you would be happy with either, where the T7i gains the edge if you want to shoot more action shots (for basic portraits and other types of shooting the SL2 works as well as any other 9pt AF Rebel). It is worth pointing out that the 80D has a headphone port that neither the T7i or SL2 have, so if you need to monitor audio while filming then that is the only one of these three that have that.
As a hobbyist, I've found that the T7i is exactly what I need. In fact the only problem I've had is getting used to a mirror again! If I were doing anything professionally, I may have considered the 80D, but I'm very happy with my T7i! For some reason, when it's fitted out with the 18-135 lens, a lens hood, and external flash, people think I look like a pro, lol. Fortunately, my photos (and especially video), are getting close!
@@Rastafromfl Not a good enough reason 😕. Lenses can be expensive, and unless the lenses are being reviewed too- I just want to see how things look outside the box.
HI Sean i have a question, i bought the canon 77D but i really wanted the 80D but i was told that they are the same the only thing that changes is the body, is it true? did i make a good choice?
Hey Sean, I was wondering, what do you think of the canon 77d? I'm thinking about it as an alternative to the more expensive 80d. Thanks! Loved the video!
thanks for the reply!! i'm so torn, i currently have a t3i and a 60d the t3i is lightweight for travel its been around the world with me from australia to philippines and even africa the 60d i am in love with the feel of a solid body although it is heavier. and i feel like the sl2 and the 80d are the obvious upgrades even the 70d because of the autofocus. i vlog and make dance videos, should i get 2 sl2 (cost of one 80d) i already have a 24mm and 10-18mm a kit lens and 55-250mm so it wouldn't make sense for me to sell it all and go to sony. what would you invest in? thanks in advance much love from canada
Louis Luzuka - I saw this after I replied to your other comment. For vlogging and videos of any kind, the SL2 is a pretty nice upgrade over the T3i, and will have a little better performance for stills too (though not enough that I would get it jsut for stills). If at least 50% of your time is spent making video, then grab an SL2, you won't be disappointed. I would also add the EF 50mm F1.8 STM lens to your kit. For 125 USD, it's low light performance is pretty great on APS-C cameras like the SL2, and for it's price it's hard to beat for portraits.
youll love it, its great for pictures and the video interface is really easy to use. the lcd screen folds out to any angle so you can see what your filming and all you have to do is touch the screen to focus on something
Hy.. i'm planning to buy either SL2 or T7i.. which one you recommend. Just stuck with the the 45 focal points in T7i compared to SL2's 9. ? Can anyone help me with this. Do i need to spend 200$ extra..?
Sean...do you have a video showing how to livestream with one of the Canon's. I am wanting to upgrade from the iPhone to the T7i for TH-cam videos (more like a podcast). Just want to know everything that would be needed to livestream. Thanks, and keep up the great videos!
⚡QOTD: What Canon DSLR do you think is best for video? LMK! 👇👇👇
Think Media I think it's the Canon T5i. However, I may be biased because that's what I use.
Also, question. Could you make a video about tripods? I have a tripod, but it isn't very compact, and when it's strapped to my camera bag, it runs into walls because it sticks out on the sides. I'm looking into buying a compunction tripod, but don't know what to buy. If you would make a video, that would be AWESOME! Thanks, Carter Inosencio.
Think Media I have the canon SL2 (200D) and I LOVE IT.
But... why does it stop recording at 4GB?
I have a canon eos m5 but i like the 80D ! :) you’re the best Sean
Think Media I think video quality you should go for the SL2 because they both have the same sensors and nearly everything. So basically your getting a camper $400 cheaper and does pretty much the same video quality.
Just upgraded from a T3i to an SL2 and I LOVE IT. Your videos helped me make that decision! Dual pixel AF is so clutch for content creation.
i have a t3i too!!! could u tell me more about the sl2 and what do you shoot with it
ASMRtown DSLRguide should do the same
ur a savage
Hey, sorry I'm a little late, just saw your comment from before. I shoot ASMR videos with it. Although I'm going to start vlogging very soon. (Couldn't before because no auto-focus). You can see videos I took with the SL2 & T3i for comparison on my channel! :D
where’s the review i subscribed to you
Im a pro - I own all three and 3 ff canons as well - The SL2 is my go to for travel - but it really depends on what you are shooting - if you are shooting sports photos - get the better cameras with more focus points, but if you are shooting portraits, the SL2 with the 50mm f/1.8 is tough to beat - it also has the newer sensor - I find the color to be a tad better actually on the SL2 than the 80D - but nothing compared to my 5D or 6D, as expected since they are FF cameras - bottom line - size matters when you travel... the SL2 is a home run in most respects for this. - great Low Light performance as well - even at high ISO's the camera doesn't show grain as much as the 80D - not horrible but you can see it - just my 2 cents :-)
And how do u compare it to the t7i?
Yeah how is it compared to the t7i
You sold me on the SL2 with those last two videos........Canon owes you a commission! :-)
jimmyjeeper yes they do! anyone watching in 2019??
@@Michael-op5hk 2020!
@@Michael-op5hk 2020
@jay You can always buy the camera from another place lol
This is EXACTLY what I needed (:
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Shelbizleee go with the SL2
QOTD: I think this confirmed what I already knew but hate.. I need the 80D, I'll just have to suck it up and fork over that money. Thank you so much Sean.
get it used, i got mine used and its $100-150 cheaper :)
Shelbizleee sammeeee
T7i has the Digic 7 which offers better image quality, 5-Axis Image Stabilization, improved low-light performance and subject tracking. 80D is void of those features and is heavier with a gimmicky screen and weather proofing that I don't need. T7i for me, thanks!
This is a good comment. Thanks!
The sl2 seemed to have the best video quality
*Real review strats at **8:30*
nah mate the descriptions he said at the start were actually very useful imo
Only for you because you don’t understand why all the differences are important lol
Thx
Went with the 80d here! We decided that the growth opportunities out weighted everything else. Spend a little more upfront but we can grow into it instead of having to buy more later on.
I got the 80D when it came out, it's my first camera ever and it's fantastic! I know it's overkill for a first camera, but I wanted something that would age well and it was definitely the rigth choice. I shoot video alone so the amazing autofocus feature saves me a lot of pain, battery life is also great and it's holding up nicely after two years. Now I'm saving for a second camera (I do drumming videos so I need a second POV) and it's definitely going to be the 200D. Once I save up some more money I'm getting the 50mm and the 10-18mm. Thanks for the great review!
What do the change in lens mm do? I'm new to cameras and don't know shit. I'm looking at the 80D just because all video footage I've seen of it looks sexy. What else do I need other than the camera body itself? What are the different lenses for? I've seen many professional video makers have lenses with hill-shaped figures round the sides of the lense, is that to block out light?
Would be much appreciated if you could answer these. Thanks.
@@RealityClubX Just search videos on youtube. I am new as well but these answers can be found easily within youtube itself. I have the 80D with the kit lens (18-135 mm) and I just got the 24 mm f/2.8 The difference is the kit lens has a FOCAL LENGTH that ranges between 18mm to 135mm whereas the 24mm is set and cannot change, its set at 24. However the "f/2.8" is your aperture which is the amount of "bokeh" or blurry background you can get in your photos/videos. the 18-135 has a f/3.5-5.6 which is TERRIBLE. Therefore, I am extremely happy to have a 24mm that cannot change but has a f/2.8 rather than a kit lens like a 18-55mm or 18-3.5 which has a low f stop or "f/3.5-5.6". You'll pick up on these things very quickly when you watch videos on youtube. This guy has some decent videos, for example: th-cam.com/video/Jd2T-gJJiKc/w-d-xo.html
Hope this helps. God Bless
@@RealityClubX - To answer your question, the higher the mm for a lense, the closer the object will appear in your viewscreen. The 18-135mm is vey nice, but when you really want to step it up, then give Rokinon lenses a try. The quality of those lenses are something special! They are fully manual and are at a fixed length, but if you are looking to make your videos look next level, then Rokinon is the best choice without taking your wallet completely away. The link is a chart to show you comparisons of focal length:
www.photomodeler.com/kb/what_is_camera_focal_length/
www.nikonusa.com/en/learn-and-explore/a/tips-and-techniques/understanding-focal-length.html
My 80D arrived today and all I can say is that I'M IN LOVE! Thanks for all of your helpful videos.
I've officially made up my mind and will invest on the t7i camera. Thank you for the detailed video as always.
80D or the M50? Mostly for TH-cam and recording video
m50
80D
Im using 80D. I love it and I would highly recommend it! It is very easy on the hands. It all comes down on your needs, 80D is just perfect for me. :)
80D for me!
Such a killer DSLR!
Heck yea! I love it. I chose it from watching your other vids!
I agree! I love the 80D
My favorite camera I have ever owned. :)
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You are now my favorite film/photography channel. You can see the superiorty of knowledge, content quality and production on this channel compared to other TH-camrs who don't really know what they're doing! Good job
Perfect timing for releasing this. I have the g7x and use it daily. Been considering the 80D for a long time now! Thanks for the video!
I just got a Canon 80D yesterday. I love it, definitely improving the quality of my videos
If you settle on the t7i I'd say consider the 77D instead. You get an additional LCD info display and video stabilization built in for pretty much the same price.
How similar are the specs? Which one photographs better/has more options to do so???
I will just buy 80d instead of 77d. Little difference on price.
Because Sean is mostly viewed by creators that are just starting up their channels/social media. I think it would be fair to say that the SL2 is exactly what we're looking for. Most affordable of the three and still has many of the same features as the other two. I've been trying to save up for an SL2 since October (when I started my channel). Now I am sure this is the way to go!
I've used a T5i and a 6D in college when learning film and man, knowing the strengths of both those and seeing this video I'm really struggling to decide between these two. I want the image quality of the 80D but T7i is cheaper. Ugh!
I purchased the SL2 a week ago and this is my first Digital camera. For those who are just getting their first digital camera like I am need to consider not only the price of the kit camera but a 50mm prime Lens (1.8 f stop), SD cards, extra batteries, bag, tripod, lens covers, etc. My start up cost is $1000. Also, I would recommend joining a local photography club. As far as the SL2, it takes wonderful pictures and video. I know I will get years of great service out of this camera and possibly someday move up to a more professional camera down the road. All the best. Jim from Milton, GA
The camera I liked the most was SL2, I had the impression that the images are clearer and maybe a little sharper
I purchased the Canon 80D back in early 2016 and it's still going strong now. I had purchased Rokinon lenses and the video quality is off the charts! The native 18-135mm lense is awesome still to this day! If you know how to set the 80D up, your photos and videos will impress without question! Thanks for the video because my son was looking at the SL2!
Great comparison. I felt very good about my SL2 purchase before, being a beginner and all, but now I am confident that I made a great choice. Thanks for the videos and all your instruction.
I picked the SL2 and I'm loving it!
I just got the T7I so hopefully it works out well 👍🏻
This is why Cannon is failing behind the competition. They have 3 entry level cameras that are so close to one another and try to hook new people that don't know anything into buying them.
Now, I want to say I bought a T5i last year, and given what I thought I wanted at the time, I love that camera. I can still learn a ton of stuff on that thing so its a great training camera. But knowing what I know now for anyone that wants to get into video, these cameras are still a few years behind what Panasonic is doing.
The 3 advantages you get with Cannon:
1) Best Auto Focus. Even then, you will learn manual focus is best for video so this is not that big of an advantage, unless your just doing VLog'n.
2) Good Color Science. You wont really have to worry about color correcting. And if you want to get into Color Correcting, your going to find out that the 4:2:0 8 bit is not enough.
3) Cheap Lens. Got to admit, if you new, the idea of spending a ton on lens is daunting. You can get some usable lens to learn with on a Cannon system. Don't be afraid to buy used!
If video is your goal, invest in Panasonic. Might cost a wee bit more for lens, but once your ready to upgrade into a beefier camera, the GH5 and G9, are class leading cameras. Panasonic, is pushing camera tech for consumers and professionals alike. Cannon is relying on its heritage to stay a float, but soon it too might disappear with Kodak if they don't innovate soon!
My recommendations:
G9 for aprox $500 gets you 4k and into the brand and holds a ton of value. Better then the SL2 and T7i
G85 for aprox $1000 gets you 4k, weather sealed, and image stabilization. Better then the 80D
Try manual focus when you make Vlogs on the streets, interviewing people and showing you and the landscape ! There´s much types of videos !
80D isnt an entry level camera anymore, its considered to be a notch lower than pro cameras,its for enthusiasts ,not beginners
g9 is 1300 usd dollars (body only), while the t7i is around 799 usd dollars with the kit lens. what the hell are you talking about
@@josuesolisgamboa he probably reffering to the Canon g9 lol
@@theflangdude lol true, but still the sl2 and the t7i are better
I was torn between the SL2 and T7i but you pushed me to the T7i. Ordering the bundle from Amazon today!
Alicia's Weight Loss Journey awesome - happy to help - great choice - you’ll love it!
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does focus point number make HUGE difference between sl2 and t7i in photography
I'm asking this because i would use sl2 for both:video and photo.
And I would rather buy sl2 and then buy 50 mm 1.8 than just t7i
please help me somehow
Yes - esp. for action and movement in general. 45 AF points is far better than the 9 in the SL2.... esp. for photos.
If I was buying another DSLR body as of today it will be the 80D period!
Just got 80d myself , it’s a winner :)
Hey man, I just wanted to let you know how impressive your content really is. You take long cuts with what appears to be little edits. You have great and proper speech etiquette with zero stalls. "umm" or "ahh's".
Very well done!!
I'm glad you said you didn't think there wasn't much of a difference between the Digic6 and Digic7 processor. I've been worried about that with my choice to buy the 80d
I don't know all the specifics here, but I think the only noticeable difference is that the digic 7 has higher ISO performance. In all seriousness, you will never use the highest ISO on the 80D (26500), as your images would be garbage, so it's not a big deal. I think otherwise its has the typical tweeks, like slightly better noise performance and slightly better color processing, things you wouldn't really notice in a single generation jump. Hell, you likely wouldn't notice if you came up from a couple generations, not unless you are making large prints.
I just bought my 80D! Thank you so much for this video! It helped me alot!!!! I'm so happy with my camera
SL2 missed autofocus in the first take walking towards the camera :P
I own both the SL1 and 80D camera. I started with the SL1 and was really happy with it, but then as my lens collection grew the heavier lenses were making the SL1 harder to hold with its light weight and small grip which the 80D handles much better. So for me I use the SL1 as my casual walk around camera. And then I break out my 80D for the more of the heavy duty photo sessions.
thank you Sean because of you're advice I bought my first DSLR camera sl2... its working great love ur video's...
How do you like it (2yrs later)? Do you have the same one or have you upgraded?
upgraded to an 80D with a sigma 18-35mm ART lens (80d is not full frame so 25 to 50mm approx).....FAB....doubled the quality of 1080 from my old 2Ti...love the live focus and sound monitoring on the 80D
Does anyone else find that on this particular video, the 80D video examples look washed out compared to the other 2?
One thing I discovered when looking for a refurbished camera from Canon for primarily creating TH-cam content videos and looking at these three is that the T7i doesn't have an option for monitoring the audio levels being recorded. For me, that's a killer, as I need to make sure the audio isn't too low or too high and clipping. I have a 70d, and use this every time I record to verify my levels. I seem to recall that you capture your audio using an external device, and thus don't use the camera-recorded audio, so perhaps that's why you didn't mention it in your comparison.
I had a Canon Rebel T6i, but was disappointed with the autofocus, so thanks to your reviews, I picked up the Canon Rebel SL2 (Used like new on Amazon for $480 Body Only). So thank you man :) Also I think it would sound better if you said "things I may have missed" instead of saying forgot. Just sounds better IMO. But anyway I subbed because I run into your videos a lot when I need to look up tips and stuff and I like it here :)
Great tip Kyle - and solid point - you will prob see that phrase instead in future videos! 👊💯
Think Media awesome ☺️ keep up the amazing work
Also I might pick up a 10-18mm lens thanks to you :)
even if I used face tracking, it would want to focus on things in the background. Maybe I'm just ugly. But the SL2 KICKS ASS!!!!
They’re all very very similar. This is great information. I’m on the market for a camera right now for filming TH-cam content so this is great.
Sean, Thanks for this video l'm kind of moving from Nikon to Canon and watching this has made me decide on the 80D 🙌🏽👏🏽
Wouldn't say the 200D and 800D are prosumer, more hobby/beginner. 80D is THE prosumer camera of Canon. For pro you need to start looking at the 5D or 1D (if you have the budget...). If you decide to make the investment of a 80D also definitely save up for some good glass. I can recommend the 10-18mm, 24mm 2.8, but also the 18-135 nano USM kitlens are great options to take it to the next level! For beginner photographers the 800D/T7i is a great starter camera with those autofocus points. really recommend a 50mm 1.8 for all these cameras, super cheap, yet sharp and great depth of field.
SL2 for me. I've actually bought it already
How do you like it?
@@Renewed85 it's fire
Started vlogging on a t7i instead of my old g7x mark ii and the quality gains are insane. Been loving it. Definitely bigger but not too big at all
I literally JUST got my 80D today! I'm so excited I can't wait to use it 💜
Juss Jazzy how’d it turn out??
Alos the link for the cnaon eos rebel sl2, when clicked, it says on the camera "200D" What does this mean? Thoguht this was SL2
Thanks so much for your videos! I bought the Canon Rebel t6 and was completely disappointed when I discovered that it was incredibly difficult to shoot vlogs. It won't focus on my face and has no external mic. Regardless, I wanted to shoot video and launch my channel, so I'm using my iPhone6 for now. My next purchase will be the Canon SL2 thanks to your awesome reviews. Thank you so much!
This video was really helpful for me as I’m thinking of upgrading to a DSLR but don’t have a clue what to go for
I wish I could get the 80D quality and performance... in an SL2 size :-)
I just picked up the 80D on Canon's site, refurbished for $679 with the kit lens. Hard to beat that deal. Camera looks brand new and comes with everything a new model gets.
anyone watching in 2019??? This is a great video! Sl2 looks great gonna try to get a T7i on ebay. 45 point auto focus vs 9 point sold me :)
Yep just bought a used t7i with a kit lens, bag, sd card, reader and battery all for 500 bucks. It was a deeeaallll🤑
2020
@@maanavp18 where did you purchase?
@@Renewed85 found a eBay seller... Looking back idk if it was a deeeaallll deal but still love what I got and got it was pretty cheap for almost brand new stuff
@michael Great comment. However I’m new to photography; is there anyway to explain the point auto focus features and how they are are effective for photography? Sorry I’m new and am also debating between buying one of the two; thanks!!
Thanks! Already bought 80D. 😀
Great video man! Thanks for take your time to go so in-depth about them in so little time, awesome!
For me 80D because is weather sealed and I use it a lot for fog and rainy days pics.
Thanks again man. Keep enjoying what you love!
I bought the SL2. Love it.
T7i image looks awesome 👏. I have a t6i and it’s amazing. For me , stay with the eos T series.
I have been looking for hours about which camera I should buy between Canon, Nikon, DSLR or mirrorless. Sir this video explained everything perfectly. THANK YOU!
I just like those Instagram pictures (like The ones from Johnny Edlind) but idk which camera would be the best for me
yeah true I want to buy a camera for that purpose too, but donnow which one should I buy...
hossein nf Oh I said that a month ago mate
I have Sony a6300. It’s not that expensive
@@johntibucheski7070 its about lightroom at the end
I'm a still photographer that upgraded to the 80D from my trusty 60D and can't really speak regarding the SL2 and T7i. However, I can say that I'm loving the build quality of the 80D as I do a lot of hiking. Of course, the performance is great and I've paired it with some nice glass - loving the results.
Sean you are killing me! I just got the M3, then you make the video on the SL2 and now the 80D (ADD)! :D
Btw, your sound level if out of this world, best TH-camr in that regard!
i also got the m3 about a year ago and i broke it with water and am looking at the T7i and sl2 but am leaning toard the t7i
water inside the body? That's a shame!
hahah yea it sucks i kinda liked it but i want a DSLR
What did you use to record this YT content (camera/mic) and did you use an additional mic?
My grandfather brought this for me a few years ago before he passed away
I wanted a t6i and he was WAY into photography and wanted the best he could get for me and was always well researched on this stuff. Sometimes I wonder if he ever watched this video 😀
Which did he get you? Are you loving it?
@@Renewed85 He me got an eos 80d, it's served me so well since then! Wonderful camera!
To me....I think the 80d kills it. Image quality just looks much sharper.
Just bought the SL2 thanks to your vids!
For me it's always about audio. I got my first DSLR as a graduation gift from college and it's still what I shoot on. Since then I have spent more on enhancing my sounds game, I love these videos because let's be honest, the tech lust is real, but I won't be sold on another body until I see 4k come down the pipe in the Canon Ti# line. That's what I'm waiting for.
what did you get for audio
I have a couple Zoom H1s, Zoom H6 with all the capsules, lapel Mics, 2 Sm48, but my first mic was a Rode VidMic Go
you'll be waiting for a damn long time, the 5d m4 just got it, so id say the next would be the 7d, then maybe the ti lines. i would expect 4k in the ti line within 3-4 years
Sebastian Smith i’d say i’m an audio snob i’m currently saving for a rode video mic pro plus before even upgrading my body i still don’t have auto focus what do you use for audio?
Sebastian Smith yo i literally asked this last month lmao!!
I just ordered a t7i refurbished for $499! Can’t wait until it ships.
I’m still impressed with SL2
Love My 80D. Shot night video and pics for the first time in the square tonight and was very pleased with what I captured on a mono-pod. Christmas lights came out really well and only one time with more noise than I would have liked. Thanks for another great video!
Canon 80D for the win!
SUPER HELPFUL!!!! I was considering getting the T7i, but I want to really invest and have a camera for years soooo the 80D is what I'm going to go for!
Awesome as always!! Have you ever made a video about backing up footage, external hardrives and your folder system? I am currently running into some problems with that
I don't do it well... but this is how I do it... lol th-cam.com/video/oh9qcpNFQ28/w-d-xo.html
thank you. I appreciate it :D
Sir may I have comparison video between 200D Mark II vs 80D ? CaravanMovies
Please compare the Canon sl2 vs the Canon 77d !!
Second that I want to see that comparizon
T7i and 80D are so far from each other in price and yet so close! I am going for the 80D because of battery life and video. Bad for vlogging because of weight but hey, less work out at the gym. I still have my T5i which I can sell for a good price. Thanks for the video Sean. Respect for your wife for helping out and supporting! Mine is shy ☺️
What about T7?
I love the 80D... I consider it the best before the 5D...
Great video. By todays options: we now have Canon SL3, Canon 77D, Canon 90D (or ... you will still find the links you posted below the video are still active as I tested them for SL2, T7i and 80D, Canon and Amazon still selling them as part of Canon's regular inventory. So someone might get a deal on cameras from a few years ago priced lower than newer models, and working just fine for vlogging.) My Canon 80D with good lighting works great for video you tubing.
i have t7i bought it 2 years ago still working
This video is exactly the first one I watched when trying I started researching 3 weeks ago to choose cameras for a new TH-cam channel for an environmental non-profit that supports businesses.
We will be doing interviews and for the set we built, want a 2 camera shoot. I've learned that two SL2s would have gotten the job done but In the end, purchased a Canon SL2 and a Canon T7i (in case we want to take photos). So far, our tests are going well and will be posting our first videos by the end of the month.
It's amazing how many of my questions, you answered here on Think Media and on Video Influencers. I've already recommended you to 5 people who ask me about what we're doing.
I still need to figure out what to do with this channel (Green Certified Web), it's being replaced and we incorporated the organization that replaced it but if that's my biggest problem, I'm in pretty good shape!
Keep up the great work! I'm sure you're helping a lot of people, thanks Sean :)
I'm still undecided between the sl2 and 7Ti UGH!
Sooo, what you end up getting?!
I'm just learning. These are the 2 I'm leaning towards also. I want the t7i. But if the sl2 does the same thing and it's cheaper, then why not
I'm stuck in between the Sl2 and The T7i as well. 😖
When is the 90D coming out? I do not have a camera for TH-cam videos yet but have some experience as to how the DSLRs work. Should I buy the 80D or wait a few months for the 90D????
Great video Sean! Perfect comparisons, thank you for sharing!👍
You're welcome!
I bought the 80D and I love it!!
You always help a lot, thank you Sean!! And my question is about the AUDIO control. The 80D has AGC or Automatic Gain Control AND manual control. Some cameras only have AGC and you cant control the audio your self. In the last case, in AGC only, when you speak, audio is OK but on the talk pauses, the gain goes hi and brings a lot of background noise. Does SL2 and T7i have manual audio control or they have AGC only??
Best from Ari in Brazil !!
Great question - all three cameras have manual audio control. 👊💯
Very good news Sean. Following you always. Thank you for your kind answer !!! Best from Ari.
Oh I didn't know anyone asked this already. Sorry I asked again. Thank you so much.
I would like to add that even though they all have manual audio control, only the 80D features a headphone jack for better monitoring of audio.
SL2 is the pick... film making doesn’t necessarily need auto focus. We like to be able to manually rack focus. Or outfitting your camera with a follow focus rig with matte box
Great video.
I think only the t7i and the 80d come on a. Creator kit with a ride mic. It’s surprising that the sl2 does not come in that package deal.
Likely becasue there is no bundle that includes the 18-135mm lens, which is needed for the power zoom accessory. You would be better off jsut getting a Rode mic on it's own, unless you wanted that power zoom, in which case you would probably be better off with the 80D. (this assumes that people that would be using it are making higher level content, and can justify the added cost).
Kevin Diaz I’m leaning toward the t7i
Also a good choice, though the SL2 and T7i are jsut about the same for video. The T7i is a better camera for shooting action, as it has the 45 pt AF system as well as a surprising 6FPS burst, jsut 1 frame less than the 80D, or the 5D for that matter! It also features built in stabilization for video (not for stills), though it is not as ideal as using IS lenses. I think you would be happy with either, where the T7i gains the edge if you want to shoot more action shots (for basic portraits and other types of shooting the SL2 works as well as any other 9pt AF Rebel). It is worth pointing out that the 80D has a headphone port that neither the T7i or SL2 have, so if you need to monitor audio while filming then that is the only one of these three that have that.
As a hobbyist, I've found that the T7i is exactly what I need. In fact the only problem I've had is getting used to a mirror again! If I were doing anything professionally, I may have considered the 80D, but I'm very happy with my T7i! For some reason, when it's fitted out with the 18-135 lens, a lens hood, and external flash, people think I look like a pro, lol. Fortunately, my photos (and especially video), are getting close!
Why doesn’t anyone ever compare them using photos?!?!
Don’t need to there all good with proper lenses
@@Rastafromfl Not a good enough reason 😕. Lenses can be expensive, and unless the lenses are being reviewed too- I just want to see how things look outside the box.
It won’t give any real comparison because using a camera is a skill. It’s better to compare what each camera offers
Great video!! They all looked really great, but I would invest in the 80D since its 2 years old now and around $800.
Canon 200D Thank you 👏👏
I will be upgrading from T3i to T7i. I plan on using it for landscape photos and youtube videos. Great video, thanks for sharing.
HI Sean i have a question, i bought the canon 77D but i really wanted the 80D but i was told that they are the same the only thing that changes is the body, is it true? did i make a good choice?
Yes - the 77D is great and has some advantages over the 80D because it's newer and has the newest processor!
The 77D will CRUSH content! 👊⚡💯
Thank you so much Sean!! Always CRUSHING IT!!
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Been using a T2i since they came out. Time to upgrade and I think the T7i meets all my needs. Great video. Thanks.
Hey Sean, I was wondering, what do you think of the canon 77d? I'm thinking about it as an alternative to the more expensive 80d. Thanks! Loved the video!
It's great ... the stand out feature is the 5-axis digital image stabilization for video. I haven't tested it - but I've heard great things!
I’m in between the T7i and the 77d
I have the sl2 and I love it. I personally thought the colours and saturation of the 80d isn't as good as the other 2.
sean in your opinion which one do you like best?
For vlogging ... sl2 th-cam.com/video/GQFsMKJYtVY/w-d-xo.html
For "video production" / more versatility for TH-cam content / 80D
thanks for the reply!! i'm so torn, i currently have a t3i and a 60d the t3i is lightweight for travel its been around the world with me from australia to philippines and even africa the 60d i am in love with the feel of a solid body although it is heavier. and i feel like the sl2 and the 80d are the obvious upgrades even the 70d because of the autofocus. i vlog and make dance videos, should i get 2 sl2 (cost of one 80d) i already have a 24mm and 10-18mm a kit lens and 55-250mm so it wouldn't make sense for me to sell it all and go to sony. what would you invest in? thanks in advance much love from canada
I'm interested in video production .
Louis Luzuka - I saw this after I replied to your other comment. For vlogging and videos of any kind, the SL2 is a pretty nice upgrade over the T3i, and will have a little better performance for stills too (though not enough that I would get it jsut for stills). If at least 50% of your time is spent making video, then grab an SL2, you won't be disappointed. I would also add the EF 50mm F1.8 STM lens to your kit. For 125 USD, it's low light performance is pretty great on APS-C cameras like the SL2, and for it's price it's hard to beat for portraits.
What camera are you using to record this video?! Looks super amazing and clear! Awesome informative video as well!
Just bought my SL2 😅 so hopefully that’s the best one 🤦🏾♂️
youll love it, its great for pictures and the video interface is really easy to use. the lcd screen folds out to any angle so you can see what your filming and all you have to do is touch the screen to focus on something
Yea me too
Hy.. i'm planning to buy either SL2 or T7i.. which one you recommend. Just stuck with the the 45 focal points in T7i compared to SL2's 9. ? Can anyone help me with this. Do i need to spend 200$ extra..?
u do know the 80D is like double or more in terms of price to the SL2
canon 200d vs canon 70d which one should i buy .....your advice .............
Sean...do you have a video showing how to livestream with one of the Canon's. I am wanting to upgrade from the iPhone to the T7i for TH-cam videos (more like a podcast). Just want to know everything that would be needed to livestream.
Thanks, and keep up the great videos!
Great info... Very clear to understand. 👍Thank you