I rated iron flame 2.5 stars after loving fourth wing so much 😢 it just felt like a rough draft of a book to me and it felt like violet’s character development went backwards.
🐉 🔥 I LOVED Fourth Wing, and I’m about 60% through Iron Flame and I am struggling. I feel like the world building should have been better distributed between the books and this one definitely hard to get through. Also would have loved Xaden POV, especially with them being separated through a lot of it. I’m also scared to finish it because I’ve seen so many videos and reactions to the ending, but have yet to be spoiled. I also think the editing should have been better with such a popular, traditionally published book.
I guess I’m in the minority but I loved Iron Flame! I gave it 4.5 stars on Goodreads. I kinda went into it not expecting much, because usually a lot of series suffer from 2nd book syndrome, so maybe that’s why I liked it more. 🤷♀️ 🔥🐉
Ohhh no ha - I feel like I’m in the minority. I loved the 2nd one more than the first. I felt the romance was stronger and better this 2nd one. I will admit after more thought the pacing and revelations could have been better and clearer.
Fourth Wing was a 5 star read for me and I as sooo excited for Iron Flame. I spent 85% of the book confused as shit. I was so disappointed tbh. The ranks of folks, the butt load of new characters the info dump .. the ending was just like WHAT?
🐉 I rated Iron Flame 3.75* still unsure what actually happened at the end of the book. Going to take a beat and re-read when there isn’t as much hype and see how I feel about after I have had a bit of space from Fourth Wing because I loved that book ❤
i just finished iron flame this morning because i wanted to take my time with the book and really savor it (if that makes sense) and i’m totally with you on this. fourth wing was an easy 5 ⭐️ for me and when i finished iron flame i was just staring out and didn’t know how to feel. it’s unfortunately not a 5 ⭐️ read for me and i’m hopeful book 3 will bring the series back up for me. 🐉
Girlfriend, you look GORGEOUS in the iron flame review! Your hair is on point! I’m a little scared to read IF now… maybe I’ll just put it off for a bit 🤷🏾♀️
I can't find the video you were going to do with the other blogger? I would like to hear both your thoughts about certain details lol especially that ending. Did either of you get vampire academy feels like I did?
Iron flame was the biggest disappointment of 2023. I struggled so much to get through this repetitive mess and hated all the inner thought monologues. By the end of it I hated Violet lol
@@GatekeeperGuardian-wv3cd i would argue that she acted very differently. Violet in the first book came off to me as strong, decisive and funny. Thats how i read her from my perspective. She was strong to decide to stay in the riders quad even when she was offered a way out, she was decisive about keeping both dragons who mated with her and she had a lot of funny lines and moments that made me physically LoL. I got none of that in the second book. She was weak about her relationship and her feelings for zaden as well as against her professors who were harassing her. She just gave up. I could go on but yeah you get the point hopefully.
@@nikki2442 She starts as an airheaded valley girl, goes through the first book as an airheaded valley girl, and in the second book becomes even more of an airheaded valley girl. The whole conflict with Xaden could have worked, but that would require her to be set up as buying wholeheartedly into Navarre's jingoism and if anything she's set up as doing the opposite. As a result, it just comes across as her being vapid and selfish which she was in the first book, too. It's just easier to see this time around.
Violet doesn't really have any character development in the first book and if anything her character regresses in Iron Flame. The closest thing to character development she receives is wanting to be a scribe to wanting to be a dragon rider and that happens in like the first quarter of Fourth Wing. To top it all off, we aren't even given a reason why this change takes place. It just does because the author said so. From there her disability affects her for about a quarter more of the plot before Yarros realizes keeping it up is too hard, so it just magically disappears and she gets a bunch of new, undeserved Mary Sue powers (That could have easily been balanced by the disability Yarros conveniently forgot about). Powers are not character development. Contrived flawscrubbing and character motivations aren't character development either especially when there are a bunch of ACTUAL character flaws the narrative doesn't even try to address like being a shallow, juvenile valley girl.
You should be further questioning why this book needs to exist in that case. What actually gets accomplished and why does it have to be in its own story?
I get it, but she was raised around military and is still constantly surrounded by them. I can't exactly blame her for thinking Israel good when those are her life circumstances. I CAN, however, call her out when she tells blatant lies like "I'm not pro-Israel I'm anti-war and all my works reflect that". Iron Flame especially glorifies toxic military practices and attitudes.
He was just a grumpy dragon! I loved it!
I rated iron flame 2.5 stars after loving fourth wing so much 😢 it just felt like a rough draft of a book to me and it felt like violet’s character development went backwards.
The first book was a poorly constructed rough draft, too.
@GatekeeperGuardian-wv3cd you're everywhere to hate these books? Such a pathetic no-life entity
🐉 🔥 I LOVED Fourth Wing, and I’m about 60% through Iron Flame and I am struggling. I feel like the world building should have been better distributed between the books and this one definitely hard to get through. Also would have loved Xaden POV, especially with them being separated through a lot of it. I’m also scared to finish it because I’ve seen so many videos and reactions to the ending, but have yet to be spoiled. I also think the editing should have been better with such a popular, traditionally published book.
Worldbuilding distribution is the least of the problems in this series. The fact that it's so bad is much more glaring.
I guess I’m in the minority but I loved Iron Flame! I gave it 4.5 stars on Goodreads. I kinda went into it not expecting much, because usually a lot of series suffer from 2nd book syndrome, so maybe that’s why I liked it more. 🤷♀️ 🔥🐉
Agreed! I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed it!
Nah you're not minority. A lot of people enjoyed it and even gave it 5 stars. Don't pay attention to some pathetic online hates
Ohhh no ha - I feel like I’m in the minority. I loved the 2nd one more than the first. I felt the romance was stronger and better this 2nd one. I will admit after more thought the pacing and revelations could have been better and clearer.
How? The romance is just the same contrived fight like 10 times.
Fourth Wing was a 5 star read for me and I as sooo excited for Iron Flame. I spent 85% of the book confused as shit. I was so disappointed tbh. The ranks of folks, the butt load of new characters the info dump .. the ending was just like WHAT?
🐉 I rated Iron Flame 3.75* still unsure what actually happened at the end of the book. Going to take a beat and re-read when there isn’t as much hype and see how I feel about after I have had a bit of space from Fourth Wing because I loved that book ❤
i just finished iron flame this morning because i wanted to take my time with the book and really savor it (if that makes sense) and i’m totally with you on this. fourth wing was an easy 5 ⭐️ for me and when i finished iron flame i was just staring out and didn’t know how to feel. it’s unfortunately not a 5 ⭐️ read for me and i’m hopeful book 3 will bring the series back up for me. 🐉
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I’m about 60 % in to Iron Flame and it’s not good imo…
Girlfriend, you look GORGEOUS in the iron flame review! Your hair is on point! I’m a little scared to read IF now… maybe I’ll just put it off for a bit 🤷🏾♀️
Thank you ☺️
🐉🐲 I started Fourth Wing on the weekend and then stopped. I figure I should wait until the whole series is done. Cliffhangers just about kill me 😅
I can't find the video you were going to do with the other blogger? I would like to hear both your thoughts about certain details lol especially that ending. Did either of you get vampire academy feels like I did?
Im about 50% of the way through iron flame and at the end of chapter 25 i gasp i didnt see that part comin at all and so far im likin it
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Iron flame was the biggest disappointment of 2023. I struggled so much to get through this repetitive mess and hated all the inner thought monologues. By the end of it I hated Violet lol
It's not like she acted very different in this one. Her flaws are just a lot more glaring.
@@GatekeeperGuardian-wv3cd i would argue that she acted very differently. Violet in the first book came off to me as strong, decisive and funny. Thats how i read her from my perspective. She was strong to decide to stay in the riders quad even when she was offered a way out, she was decisive about keeping both dragons who mated with her and she had a lot of funny lines and moments that made me physically LoL. I got none of that in the second book. She was weak about her relationship and her feelings for zaden as well as against her professors who were harassing her. She just gave up. I could go on but yeah you get the point hopefully.
@@nikki2442 She starts as an airheaded valley girl, goes through the first book as an airheaded valley girl, and in the second book becomes even more of an airheaded valley girl. The whole conflict with Xaden could have worked, but that would require her to be set up as buying wholeheartedly into Navarre's jingoism and if anything she's set up as doing the opposite. As a result, it just comes across as her being vapid and selfish which she was in the first book, too. It's just easier to see this time around.
It was so good....but that ending! Ahhhhhh!
Violet doesn't really have any character development in the first book and if anything her character regresses in Iron Flame. The closest thing to character development she receives is wanting to be a scribe to wanting to be a dragon rider and that happens in like the first quarter of Fourth Wing. To top it all off, we aren't even given a reason why this change takes place. It just does because the author said so. From there her disability affects her for about a quarter more of the plot before Yarros realizes keeping it up is too hard, so it just magically disappears and she gets a bunch of new, undeserved Mary Sue powers (That could have easily been balanced by the disability Yarros conveniently forgot about). Powers are not character development. Contrived flawscrubbing and character motivations aren't character development either especially when there are a bunch of ACTUAL character flaws the narrative doesn't even try to address like being a shallow, juvenile valley girl.
I rated it 4 stars on Goodreads 🔥
I enjoyed watching your reactions to the book.
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I heard it's 5 book series 😢
Rebecca said it’s 5 book series, maybe this the filler book! Hopefully I get to the book this week.
You should be further questioning why this book needs to exist in that case. What actually gets accomplished and why does it have to be in its own story?
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I get it, but she was raised around military and is still constantly surrounded by them. I can't exactly blame her for thinking Israel good when those are her life circumstances. I CAN, however, call her out when she tells blatant lies like "I'm not pro-Israel I'm anti-war and all my works reflect that". Iron Flame especially glorifies toxic military practices and attitudes.
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