The Fate of Empires - Sir John Glubb
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Link to pdf version: people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb...
This is not the same particular edition that I am reading but it seems to be the same word for word.
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Sir John Glubb Bio:
Sir John Bagot Glubb, better known as Glubb Pasha (16 April 1897 - 17 March 1986), was a British soldier best known for commanding Transjordan's Arab Legion 1939-1956. During World War I, he served in France and was then transferred to Iraq in 1920, a British colony at the time.
Educated at Cheltenham College, he became an officer of the Arab Legion in 1930. The next year he formed the Desert Patrol, an exclusively Bedouin force, to curb the raiding problem that plagued the southern part of the country. Within a few years he had managed to get the Bedouin to abandon their habit of raiding neighbour tribes and the raids were soon a thing of the past.
In 1939, Glubb succeeded Frederick G. Peake as the commander of the Arab Legion. During this period, he transformed the legion into the best trained force in the Arab world.
He remained as the commander of the Arab Legion until March 2, 1956 when he was dismissed by King Hussein who wanted to distance himself from the British after the Suez War. He spent the remainder of his life lecturing and writing books and articles, mostly on the Middle East and his experiences with the Arabs.
His nickname "Abu Hunaik" referred to his crooked jaw, a legacy of the First World War. The word "hunaik" was unfamiliar to me and I enquired of some Bedouin friends what it meant. They misunderstood me.
"Abu Hunaik? He was an Englishman, a soldier and a friend to the Bedouin a long time ago. It was he who built the fort at Wadi Rum".
This is quite remarkable when one realises that these particular men were born more than 20 years after Glubb's definitive departure from the Middle East. They were vague about the name "Glubb Pasha" though...
Since retirement, he has published sixteen books, chiefly on the Middle East, and has lectured widely.
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1:17 Introduction
6:21 what is an empire
12:19 The outburst
15:27 characteristics of the outburst
17:25 causes of the outburst
19:50 The course of empire
21:15 Age Of The Pioneers
22:01 & 26:57 Age Of Commerce
29:45 Age Of Affluence
33:59 Age Of Intellect
37:03 Effects Of Intellectualism
42:42 Influx Of Foreigners
46:43 Frivolity
48:23 The Arab Decline
52:34 Mamluk Empire
54:35 Master Race
56:48 Welfare State
58:51 Religion
1:04:37 Decadence
1:07:28 Diversity
1:09:33 Variety Of Falls
1:19:11 Summary
We need this now more than ever.
How's the book?
Send me your PayPal. I'm gonna pay you for this no cap
Absolute legend
Nice. Thanks.
"The heroes of declining nations are always the same, athlete, the singer, or the actor" ~ Sir John Glubb
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The irony of you having an actor as your avatar and posting that quote.
@@isaiahii6982 Not irony, a recognition. It's actually noticing and recognizing. It's intellectual not ironic.
Decadence has been reached. BRICS bringing the outside influence. Diversity has always been there but there is definite "verbosity" about it and of barring nations.
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It COULD be irony. Would you expect someone that types something like the OP to also have an actor as an avatar? If not, then you could say that's ironic.
Glubb is perhaps the only man who learned from history. I cannot believe how prophetic this mans words are. Terrifying
I'm sure plenty of people have learned from history. But it's very difficult to impart such lessons to an entire population. It might even be the case that a society as an entity cannot possess reflection and insight. Thus such people are always Jeremiahs.
@@jjtimmins1203 No knowledge can tame the forces that are in play.
Oswald Spengler was an apt student of history and prophetic philosopher as well. He said that the West's decline was terminal. No reversing the course of history. My only hope is that some remnant of the white race can rise from the ashes of this global genocidal catastrophe we are being subjected to in basically all of our major countries. This civilization is doomed, but perhaps the genes that gave rise to such an empire can survive to flourish another generation, perhaps centuries down the line, hard to say how long the decline will take to complete. My thinking is that a quick crash is probably better than a long and drawn out one, as our low birth rates mean our chances of collective racial survival diminish with each passing year. There's also the issue of the globalist cabal that wants us wiped out, and how a collapse would cut off many of the sources of their influence due to the destruction of the infrastructure, which wouldn't be maintained anymore. Of course, a collapse would be a miserable thing to live through, and many would die, but it is better than the alternative of a slow extinction, going out with a whimper like we have been doing, frankly.
Very informative
One of the best books I have ever read. Short and to the point, not the 600 pages of drivel we get these days
This is probably the most significant essay of all time. "...what we have learned from history is that we never learn anything from history."
It’s obvious that the USA is in the age of decadence
And Western Europe is in the age of Diversity. The difference between all previous empires and now is the degree of economic entanglement, as one falls so shall the others!
@@henrytoledo4103 There is no difference. I think you’re incorrectly subscribing to the false gospel of progress.
Probably began in the late nineties
Update: it's the age of decline and collapse now
@@stijnpoppe1562 Bingo! Only question is how bad will it get eh
When I first listened to this, because of Stefan Molyneux it had about 500 views, a year later I listened to it again and it had about 2000. It is 2020 now and it skyrocketed to 23,096.
The way we teach history should be *ENTIRELY* based on this seminal masterpiece. What teachers ask pupils should not be "what name on what date" but "What phase was this nation in and give me some proof and comparisons".
There is nothing more important then what this book is describing when it comes to history!
Of course there would be nothing but censorship of and aversion to this narrative. It seems during the final stages of the fall there is an intentional ignorance or cognitive dissonance regarding the inherent and increasing problems of said empire.
@@henrytoledo4103 - Control tools like Mainstream Media, Netflicks, the dominant social media companies, and stores like Amazon will make views like this difficult to encounter. Don't kid yourself into thinking that any social media company is going to expose you to something with which they might disagree. Can you still watch movies like Waterhole#3 (James Coburn) now - something that makes very light of rape and murder? It's like searching for "ancient europeans" or "important scientists" and not getting one response on the first page that shows a White Male. What we see is already being controlled.
@@rchuso I just googled searched "important scientists" and the entire first page is almost entirely white men. One of the first 11 was a Persian man, the rest were white men.
I get what you're trying to say, but you might want to fact check your analogies before you use them.
@@anthonytwohill9726 - I see that It has changed since I first did those searches only about three years ago. I wonder if they're now using some input about the person doing the search to sway the results?
@@rchuso I'm pretty sure they are. I also use Google Fi, so they know a bit more about me than the typical Google searcher.
This should be required reading in every school.
Or required listening ;)
@ludlow 889 Most young people can't even do basic things like woodworking, fixing up the home, fighting, gardening, knitting, cursive, cooking , reading a analog clock, logic or knowing a foreign language.
It's hilarious how more and more time is being spent in schools but so little actual skills are developing.
Nah they wouldn't want to warn us
Agreed
Boi...its too late... Lol
Holy shit guys, almost 1500 views and over 25k minutes listened!! Thank you all so much, really appreciate it!
I don't have a lot of time on my hands these days but I've just finished a couple of books that I'll edit and upload soon.
If you have any ideas for books/articles you think should be read, do please suggest them.
@Minty Breath Yes that's right. Recording has shown me how fluid and inconsistent my accent is though. Trying to keep accent and tone constant/consistent was more challenging than I expected, maybe why it's hard to tell! Thanks for listening on :)
Thanks for this. Listening a 2nd time
Please do Charles Percy Snow the two cultures
Red Air thanks a lot for putting this up!
Red Air I’m a yankee and thought your accent was just fine. It actually gave a feeling of hearing to the writer himself, although a little naive on my part I admit, but let me enjoy the illusion. 😏🍻
Still listening
There's very little information I learned in history class that was as profound as this hour and a half video. Alexander Tytler also studied this phenomenon to a degree but focused more on democracies. He stated that, "Democracies can only exist as a temporary form of governance and will be so up until the point the people realize they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. After which only the candidate that promises the most will win and this will inevitably lead to collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."
I think Glubb does better at explaining the process though.
Remarkable parallels between ancient empires and modern society. Insightful essay. Thanks for reading!
Hey I'm glad you like it, thanks for listening. Glubb's exhortations to pay attention and study this constant repeating cycle are the most affecting to me. We've simply chosen not to learn. I also recorded his follow-up, 'Search For Survival' so do have a look.
Human nature doesn't change and we face the same challenges. Its no so much that history repeats, but rather human just be.
Wow, the parallels are so spot on. We could learn so much from history, if people just paid attention. Great book.
Well, lots of people want to pay attention, but Glubb explains this in the first several minutes: schools focus only on the simple history of your own nation state.
Brilliant essay. Everything he says is right on the money. Some one should make a movie based on this work.
so people can just sit and watch? People should act based on his work.
Movie? WE ARE LIVING IT NOW😂
It is such a public service having this available here. Thank you so much. Highly useful.
This must be my third time listening to this and I can't believe how almost word for word this is what's happening now. This time I took special note of Sir Glubb's spot on view of celebrity and its close relationship to decline.
Average length of nations - 250 years;
1776 + 250 = 2026.
This book has such a wealth of insight and so many parallels to America today, I find myself needing to listen to its reading twice.
America didn't become an empire till at least the end of the Civil War.
@@AzureSymbiote I understood it to be after World War II.
the American empire could fall....
... only to be replaced by a New American empire that lasts another 250 years...
I enjoyed this excellent narration of Sir John Bagot Glubb's essay. I read it a few weeks ago but felt the need to revisit it.
I love this essay!!! It open my eyes and inspire me to seek the true history and avoid the mistakes that our ancestors have made. I’m so glad he wrote this essay
I felt that I had listened to an audiobook read by a professional. Great information 🙏 thank you for giving it for free.
This is fantastic narration - thank you!
Glad you like it, thanks for listening.
Spanish philosopher, he who does not learn from history are condemned to repeat it! The parallels from history are extremely unbelievable, but since our early teachings are basic falsehoods, we are condemned to repeating it. Interesting read.
I remember when Glubb appeared as a guest on a late night BBC tv talk show called Friday Night, Saturday Morning about 1979/80. Impossible to imagine a talk show doing that for the last 3 decades. That alone is telling. Now we get Kate Williams and Dan Snow.
Thanks for this
Most welcome
It's just a matter of time for the great nation of the USA also falls and gets on this list.
Soon
Fantastic.. thank you for your time and energy in reading this important essay..
ONE FOR THE AGES... Unheeded or not. - This man BROUGHT INSIGHT.
COR - Heeded or not.
Around the 32 minute mark he's talking about what's know today as "toxic masculinity"
The whole essay is a patient and systematic excoriation of any and every hubristic celebration of superficial commonalities at the expense of the most obvious, that we are all humans first.
I've been sharing this in print for over 6 years now, both in hard copy and digital, unfortunately, most people in this "instant gratification" society do not take the time to digest it's contents.
Thank you for producing this in an alternate form.
Alexander Tytler was attributed to have written a similar study in the 17th century, referred to as the "Tytler Cycle" or "Fatal Sequence", Alexis de Toquville also made similar observations.
When will we learn that history will often repeat itself, and that human nature is unchanging?
Keep doing it sir. People should read more.
Wait, you've been sharing hard copies to people? Thank you, keep going! As much as I enjoy audiobooks in the relentless modern era it is simply an inferior medium when it comes to solid and substantial learning and understanding.
So maybe we should embrace human nature and accept what is going to come and build our own civilization and reject the cultural marxist utopia that has deceitfully subverted traditional American culture. Look at it as a new beginning.
@@republitarian484 Im with you
@@republitarian484 - At this point I suspect we can't recover without making life difficult again. The human nature not fully addressed is rather straightforward: men will do anything they can for their wife and children. In very hard times this may be as simple as "bringing home the bacon". Even the children's movie Hotel Transylvania (3, if I recall) lays this out in plain speech. As times get easier, the men continue to do things for their wife and family, like giving the vote to those who aren't net-taxpayers or even to women. Cucks, especially, are quick to jump to this with the hope of "getting some", like they did in Wyoming - to entice women to come into the state.
Women are vulnerable while pregnant and with little children, so they will vote for Socialism (or anything that promises "safety" and "security" over "freedom") to the point that they no longer need a man to provide for them. This is why Socialism is one of the last stages of this sequence, and is implicated in being one of the drivers of this collapse. This egalitarianism / feminism / cultural Marxism is going to kill the economy and bring obout some extreme racism again.
Excellent, simply excellent, both in content and execution. Thank you so much for taking the time.
Yet another piece of wisdom stumbled on by modern media, I wish I studied some essays like these that are on TH-cam, of all places, instead of the books that tell stories just to tell stories.
Excellent reading, excellent essay, thanks for sharing it to us!
I am so glad to find this content on TH-cam. Thanks a lot. It is a change of the kind of content that others upload . Keep uploading and I personally will keep watching .
Brilliant observation of patterns over vast spans of time, location and culture
But none of the empire spans are accurate?
Sir John Glubb ,
his mention was ever present in Middle East debates during the seventies , I became a diesel truck technician at the age of 13 in the city of Beit Jala in the Old Country Palestine , constantly truck drivers gathered around and talked about several issues at the same time , every once in awhile Glubb was mentioned , I remember my dad telling us a story , " there was this debate about the effect of King Hussein kicking out Glubb , someone stood up and says" yes Glubb have left the Middle East but he left you a thousand Glubbs " .
supposedly Glubb established the Jordanian Army , on one occasion there was a ceremony celebrating the Jordanian Army in which several speeches were given , one speech was given by a blind Islamic Imam in which he said " you great Jordanian Army I wish you belonged to us ".
there was no illusion about the intent of the British and their supposed good will for the Arabs .
Mentioning Arab history in this book give a different perspective which is not available among Middle Eastern historians .
One of the best Videos I stumbled upon in a long time. Thanks so much!
The U.S.A will be 250 years old in 2026
That was the most informative, concise narration of a chapter in human history. The one thing that I gleaned from your thesis is that those possessing the more aggressive and domineering gene coupled with the attitude of damn the torpedos full speed ahead will psychologically and physically prevail over those that have become spoiled, lazy and lethargic. Not to mentioned enlightened to man's schemes, lies and manipulations of that society to the point they themselves are ready for a change wether they recognize it or not. I believe Adolf Hitler reconized this malady with his people and thus had the books burned to regress the German people's intellect. As you well know to build a truly functional military force, you want to recruit the young and dumb do you can mold them into an affective fighting force. There is so much more I can expand upon but time and space on this medium. I will be looking forward to your next dissertation of this subject, good job.
had the books burned to regress the german intellect. lol the stupidest comment i have ever read
thank you a great listen
@Red Air ,thank you,as someone who loves reading, and has adhd ,my squirrel moments make it damn near impossible to start and finish anything close to this intellect level. It’s amazing how someone from that time period could be so spot on with today’s society of the western civilization.
Thanks for recording this. Great quality.
Impressive short book. Famous French writer Honore de Balzac wrote this in 1837:
"Every life has its climax, - a period when causes are at work, and are in exact relation to results. This mid-day of life, when living forces find their equilibrium and put forth their productive powers with full effect, is common not only to organized beings but to cities, nations, ideas, institutions, commerce, and commercial enterprises, all of which, like noble races and dynasties, are born and rise and fall. From whence comes the vigor with which this law of growth and decay applies itself to all organized things in this lower world? Death itself, in times of scourge, has periods when it advances, slackens, sinks back, and slumbers. Our globe is perhaps only a rocket a little more continuing than the rest. History, recording the causes of the rise and fall of all things here below, could enlighten man as to the moment when he might arrest the play of all his faculties; but neither the conquerors, nor the actors, nor the women, nor the writers in the great drama will listen to the salutary voice." (from the novel 'Rise and Fall of Cesar Birotteau')
well presented and profound listening thank you
Amazing! Someone who sees the same things on which I (and others I've met) have commented for the past couple of years... but my observations were mostly based on the collapse of the Sumerian civilization - the group who 5000 years ago "invented" large cities, irrigation and water storage systems, the 60 second minute, the 60 minute hour, the 360 degree circle, schools, writing, and so much more. They started with the man of the house being able to sell his family into slavery (highly patriarchal), traded with very remote groups, grew rich and decadent, and became matriarchal enough to have a female "king" just before Sargon came in and took over. I can't say it was about 250 years, but it's clearly the same pattern.
what do you mean by female "king" ?
@@salem353 - Kugbau
@@rchuso so kugbau was women who rule as king ? looks queer to me
I just shared this a couple times. Thanks for the read.
Well done Red Air, and my thanks. Glubb was a brilliant man.
An eye opening book, Thanks for sharing!
Amazing upload!
Excellent; thanks!
This is the orginal Fourth Turning book.I loved it.
Thanks red air looking for this it's an important book
Glaad you like it, thanks for listening!
@45:00 He predicted the fall of the soviet union, nationalism.
Fantastic content, real history🙏
America is at the end, I remember when Walmart always had this huge American flags on both sides of the door when you walked in and almost anything you picked up if you looked at the bottom it said made in America. And as you know that has all changed just like so many other things have changed. Reading about the end of Rome there's so many similarities to what's happening today just like this video explains, spot on.
They also call it the cycle of democracy, there's a great vid on that but basically says the same thing as here just shows that people go from bondage to freedom to prosperity to decadence back to slavery 😁. I see a country just like anything else in this universe as a cycle, you can compare a country to a tree it starts out as a small seed and grows into a beautiful tree and then slowly withers and dies. Thanks again great video agree with so many points 👍🏻
Thanks for this.
Great book, thanks for posting
Thank you for reading this vert interesting essay. You are really raising knowledge. Js from France
2020 and this shit is scary to any Americans who know their history. Eek
Yep, just focus on urself and wait, prepare get food everything try n learn skills as fast as possible. arm up
@@isaacrivera5452 Stay well brother.
Thank you!
The author is truly prophetic.
I swear Amazon removed his book. I can't believe it
It is available on Amazon UK
Can’t find it either
Me: Mom can we have spengler?
Mom: No, we have spengler at home.
Spengler at home:
Excellent !!!
You are a saint. Thank you.
You're too kind! Glad you liked it, thanks for the comment.
outstanding voice and quality! perfect for a foreigner like me
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Splendid.
It doesn't matter if the foreign ethnics are superior, even.
Liken it to adding gold to steel in a forge - Gold is much more prestigious but the more you add lessens the structural integrity of your "steel" bridge until you get disaster.
That's how books should be read
Thank you for this
Thanks for uploading....it reminds me of " O" levels history classes....♥️♥️♥️
Thank you for sharing, this was amazing, i had to go back & relisten to parts , so much covered . People need to stop watching the jesters, & watch this.
Top reading. Thanks.
Amazing! 👍🏻
excellent
Thank you very much for publishing this book,from Russia with love.
Very interesting
Everyone share this on every social media
Thank you! I know it's been a few years since you uploaded, but if you want some more reading material I can recommend Nesta Helen Webster's work (maybe "World revolution the plot against civilization" first and formost, but hers "A study in Democracy - The French revolution" is great as well, so many lessons to learn from it, and so few people are aware!) , "The French revolution in San Domingo" by Lothrop Stoddard is a great, insightful writing too. I have been looking for a reading of "Fire in the minds of men" by James Billington, but there are non to be found at this moment, hopefully there will be though.
Is this the entire book or only a portion? I think the full book is 52 pages. Anyone know where one might get a printed copy?
The sense of duty and self sacrifice requires a society whose values are worthy of such sacrifice. It's a chicken or the egg thing.
Captain Cook did NOT "discover" Australia.
Because Australia was already mapped out by Abel Tasman which named Australia, Nieuw Holland.
Named Tasmania after himself and put Nieuw Zeeland on the map.
All this more than 100 year before Captain Cook had even heard of the South Pacific.
Nothing was discovered, humanity has used all of this earth for millennia.
Excellent
I don't know how to download audio so I can listen while I'm driving - generally use librivox but this is likely not in the public domain since it is published 1978 and librivox is pretty strict about that
Feel free to use YT to mp3 apps, I do have audio versions somewhere but I need to dig them out and figure out where to upload. If you share any files please leave link to this channel, and suggestions on where to upload my files would be appreciated too.
Hi Red Air,
I don't know if you are busy right now or have another project at hand, but could you please please please, read SEX AND CULTURE by J.D. UNWIN.
It's 710 pages long, so it might be a bit long. But I wouldn't mind if you read it in sections.
Thanks for the request! My next project is a book about Islam and is already underway. 210 pages, far longer than any of the books I already have planned, I aim to complete it by early 2019.
710 pages is a huge time investment. Between work and other non-work projects, time is short at the moment.
But it looks very interesting In the preface he talks about an Abstract 'Sexual Regulations and Human Behaviour'; I could possibly throw that out quite quickly.
Thanks again for the request but that one is unlikely any time soon.
I wasn't expecting you to do the whole thing in one fell swoop. I was hoping you could read it in small sections (I thought that would be easier, both for the listeners and for you.)
However, I do understand if you are too busy. I appreciate what you have done so far. I just thought that this was another book analyzing civilization and you seem to be interested in that kind of stuff.
May I ask for the title of the book you are reading?
It looks very interesting and I'll add it to my list, thank you. Looking at it as a basic analysis; average 2 minutes of speech per page, this one is quite dense so maybe 3-4. 700 pages x 3 = ~2100 minutes, multiply by say 4 minimum for editing, getting takes right etc. It's looking like an almost 10k minute project! I'd love to have the time to do this more, and I'm going to start trying to ramp up, but I want to be realistic too. If you have any more books like this then let me know, love them all!
I have a couple of smaller things I've recorded that I need to finish editing and upload, on a different vein to FoE; hope you like it. Thanks for every minute you've listened, really appreciate!
Why this is not the way to study history, you know, to learn and understand as to not repeat it, well, it's baffling... It's also very over whelming to see, to be aware of ones own present, it's a lonely feeling, especially when one is surrounded by people whom will swear that black is white, in other words, liars.
l listen to this while reading the book, It's like reading aloud :-)
Lol nice. Read books aloud yourself though! That's what I did or ages to help me concentrate, started developing my voice. Do it!
Thank you for the upload. Is the book banned? I couldn't find it. And I've read much more controversial books.
Liked & subscribed.
An excellent presentation that feels like Sir John Glubb lecturing on his ideas to an audience intelligent enough to follow along at a brisk pace.
This is why TH-cam can be as useful as Curiosity Stream to those committed to lifelong learning and expanding their consciousness & understanding. Of course, one needs to weed out the knuckle dragging twaddle that is inevitable in an uncurated public platform like TH-cam, but even bookstores must be approached with some level of discernment these days. (I guess we are in the phase of corrupted pseudo intellectualism where agenda-driven propaganda, usually based on greed & lust for power, has many new media with which to reach the masses.)
I wonder if we combine Glubb's stages of empire with "How Climate Made History" on Curiosity Stream, then we begin to see the patterns of Nature that have shaped the evolution of human life & civilizations since our first emergence as a new species. Add Jared Diamond "Guns, Germs and Steel" & "Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed" and suddenly we are standing on the shoulders of giants and looking back on the ruins of success.
Where we go from here seems a bit of a puzzle. Multiple superpowers, all armed with nuclear weapons, interconnected economically, high on technology & consumption, fighting small proxy wars, repressing internal minorities, awash in surveillance, and no frontiers left to conquer except outer space & the digital Metaverse. Perhaps climate change will rear up with a vengeance and become the driver of 21st century global civilization & further human evolution?
That part about "Climate Change " in the books of Revelations.
Was this the most important book written last century? (at least for those who want to understand why we're in this current and rapid collapse)
Gold.
Very well read!
P.S. Many people don't realise that Sir John Glubb read "The Guide for the Perplexed" by Maimonides. You can see the Rambam's influence on Glubb in his words here from 01:08:05 to 01:08:42.
His intellect is clearly influenced by his lengthy service in the Middle East.
Just a question to think about before going into the raise, decline and so on: should actually an empire be the goal of the human beings?
Such an interesting question, so many ways to answer.
lol I just wrote a whisky essay as a reply that was probably a bit overkill so I'll roll back!
Define your terms. Define 'should', 'goal', and 'empire'.
'Should' is a moral concept that applies mostly to things we have control over. Nobody asks whether lions or ducks 'should' 'rape' or 'murder' because nobody believes these concepts apply to their violent or sexual conduct.
'Goal' implies that something that is aimed for consciously. Hydrogen isn't exactly claimed to have the 'goal' of clumping together to form stars. Do humans have the ability to avoid clumping together to form larger units? Maybe.
'Empire' is (probably being too reductive) a set of hierarchical social relations varying in complexity. The modern American empire differs in complexity from the Roman ones and still further from ancient Assyrian ones. But it seems that hierarchical social relations are inevitable, which is the 'should' part of this. If nothing else could be, how can we ask if it should be?
What possible forms of complex hierarchical systems of social relations are there that do not inevitably progress (or regress) to Empire? It depends if you consider democracies, kingdoms or fiefdoms to be empires or not; I'd say the difference is mostly in scale.
My answer to your question would be 'yes, because nothing else seems possible'.
What do you think? Could anything else ever be a goal or humans? What's the alternative?
Red Air It was just an open question, without implying anything :))
Yes, I would agree that as social animals, hierarchy cannot be separated from life.
The thing is, an empire is simply a system through which humans try to reach their end goal, which (as much as many people will try to justify that humans are "different" and "superior" to other animals) is to survive and spread out their genes.
And because of our higher intellectual capacity (with respect to the rest of animal species we know at the moment), humans developed a complex system that allows to preserve power (and therefore potential to survive and reproduce) longer and more stable than usual by shifting the value of the variables that determine the social position of each individual inside the hierarchy.
Example: older animals would be naturally defeated by young and stronger ones, but our particular system could protect the social rank of the physically weaker if they had for example more wealth. Because one's wealth could determine others' survival.
In effect, history has proven us that this type of social organization could be the most effective formula that humans have reached so far.
I don't know what are we going to evolve into as a specie, but I'm sure a more effective system will be developed. A system that wouldn't even make any sense to us if someone from the future tried to explain it now ))
yf0013 But is Empire really just a system through which humans try to reach their end goal of survival and procreation? Or is Empire the inevitable result of many successful generations of survival and procreation? You are saying that survival and procreation is made possible by Empires, which is true, but what if Empires are the inevitable and only possible results of the drive to survive and procreate? What if that drive is inseparable from empire? What is the beginning of an Empire? A relationship between two people. A man and a woman, surviving. Then procreating, a family unit, within which the hierarchy is clear outside of modern leftist insanity. Then multiple family units, which will arrange themselves into some of hierarchy forming a community.multiple communities form a city, etc etc.
You can see that now to an extent. As leftist movements grow in the west the empires are crumbling. Then tradition (necessary to empire) takes a hit, and then the family unit (necessary for empire) takes a hit, and as the empires are dismantled for 'altruistic' or 'progressive' reasons birth rates fall... empires and procreation go hand in hand, the evidence seems to be that it's procreation that aids empire, not that empire necessarily aid procreation. No empire grows whilst it's population declines, and meanwhile on the other hand the modern Chinese empire grows not because of genius but because of sheer numbers.
You're right that if a more effective system is developed it would be incomprehensible to us. It would probably develop naturally over a few hundred or thousand years and only be visible to us in hindsight. But I think it will succumb to natural power dynamics eventually. Empire is inevitable, thus so is its fall.
So I guess let's just pack it up and give in lads. No point to this pig and pug show!
@@redair4573 wrong. Just as Rome was turning into an empire its birth rate was collapsing. Empire is when an elite decides to get obscenely rich by exploiting the outgroup. When they become obscenely rich their wealth ruins the instinctive wiring of the human animal and it stops breeding and becomes hedonistic. Hedonism is not compatible with self sacrifice and so the seeds of destruction are there. Rome (Genetic kin group that made Rome and its institutions) was already dying by the time of Sulla. By the time of Augustus it was necessary to put laws to force people to breed. By the time of 4th century the demographic replacement of Lazio area was almost 90% and modern genetics now confirm this th-cam.com/video/kfEck9mUoJA/w-d-xo.html. Todays Italians are NOT descendents of original Romans. Those people died out partying and not having kids.
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Do you have the Great Arab Conquest please?
I don't accept that History has always been taught in the narrow way envisaged by Sir John. Perhaps I was fortunate but, in 1962, I started my secondary education at Wallingford Grammar School, where the Headmaster, Mr John Caine, insisted that an 'integrated' syllabus was followed. Thus, in our English classes, we were introduced to the works of Homer; necessitating History lessons on the Ancient Greeks. I spent 1963 attending RAF Khormaksar Secondary (Comprehensive) School, before returning to Chatham House Grammar School, Ramsgate, where History included the French Revolution, the Renaissance, and Russian History. What Sir John appears to be advocating is the teaching of the PHENOMENOLOGY of History: but this would require the assembling of the 'building-blocks' first. Surely the methods advocated by Sir John ARE studied by those attending our better Universities; once some knowledge of our own History has been learned. When you come to the History of Islam, it is essential to learn about the theology - and ANTHROPOLOGY - of Islam: because it was a religio-political movement (and this is what the clergy of the Churches neglect at their peril).
The micro cycle(80 years):
Hard times create strong men
Strong men create good times
Good times create baby boomers
Baby boomers create hard times...
The macro cycle(800-1200 years):
Hard times create patriarchy(where rights are dependent on responsibilities, since men usually take more responsibilities than women this system is described as patriarchy)
Patriarchy creates good times
Good times creates feminism(equal rights independent of responsibilities)
Feminism burns everything down, creating hard times...
To Adam God said, "Because YOU LISTENED TO YOUR WIFE & ate from the tree about which I commanded you not to:
Cursed is the ground because of you, through painful toil you will eat of it, all the days of your life."
-Genesis 3:17
Man's hiearchy of needs:
1 Safety
2 Food & Water
3 Shelter & Sleep
4 Social & Sexual needs
5 Communal & self esteem needs
6 Self Actualization
Women's hiearchy of needs:
1 Equality of Opportunity
2 Equality of Outcome
3 Equality of Authority
4 Equal Authority with no Responsibility
5 All the Authority with no Responsibility for the women, with all the Responsibilities & no Authority for the man or men(especially sexual Responsibilities & Authorities).
A tyrant has 100% authority with 0% responsibility.
A slave has 100% responsibility with 0% authority.
Today marriage, as redefined by the female democratic majority and family court system, makes the man a slave to a tyrant wife, who can divorce him at will, stealing his children, his wealth, and his human dignity.
All womens natural unregulated desire is to have sex with high status bad bad boys and get innocent men to pay for the responsibility consequences(abortions, kids ect.). That's why women, no matter how meritocratic, should never vote.
Women want equal rights authority to make all the decisions in their own life when the alpha f*cks opportunity is there. Its when responsibility slowly comes knocking that women want to shift responsibility back over to innocent men. Women want to sit at the poker table of the socio-sexual market place & make bets & authorize promises in the hundreds of thousands in reproductive costs when they can only actually back up a few pennies worth of responsibility. If women CAN'T take responsibility for a authorization, then they CAN'T have equal authority/rights as the guy who can.
Show me a man who takes by force what he wants from women and I'll show you 100 women who vote to take by force what they want from men. Show me a grave created by patriarchy and Ill show you an entire graveyard created by feminism/communism.
"Any society that negates the role of the father in the voluntarily marriage contract from decent civilization building men and replaces it with a involuntary centralized welfare state will not remain civilized for long."
This is profound. Does anyone know if there is a rebuttal to this work?
wait this isn't entirely a description of modern America? hmm
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John 3.16-21
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Very interesting, I have read this in the past. By listening I gained new views. I was wondering if the Empire is granted an extension of life if it endures and survives a great event such as a great depression, or a world war. Certainly the Great Depression affected wealth and a revival in religion pushing back decadence.
Required reading for everyone.
29:00 bookmark. 🙄. Virtues of telling the truth.
Well….I guess we’re fucked then.