Hard Body Armor vs Soft Body Armor on a Human TORSO, What's The Damage?!
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- Hard Body Armor vs Soft Body Armor on Human Torso, What's The Damage?! Today we compare hard armor to soft armor to see what the difference is in protection they provide!
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Hey guys! I’m not a big fan of 20 minute videos but I wanted to try just about everything on these plates. Plus I had a couple mishaps 😂. I know some of you prefer longer videos so this one is for you! Thank you for watching.
Dude I’d watch an hour long video you are one of my favorite on youtube
We need the intro, minus a thong! Every video I watch and every video I think of you with your pillow and thong! LoL... great content brother!
20 min is fine!
Longer videos are the shit!
Do you shoot pistol righty and shotguns and rifles lefty?
20 minutes is fine by me.
My uncle served in Iraq and Afghanistan in the early 2000's. He always talks about how he took a rifle round to the chest and made it. His plate stopped it, but he said it felt like someone kicked him in the chest with a running start. It cracked his sternum and broke some ribs, but obviously, he made it. A lot of people underestimate how much force a bullet can produce.
Woah. That explains that video where a US soldier is hit on the center of his chests body armor and he goes down like Superman flicked him in the chest.
@@mrwayne5158some of it is because when a round dumps it’s energy it affects your central nervous system it shocks it. Sometimes like a reset button
I don’t get how I saw a video from the 80’s involving a reporter and the guy that invented Kevlar, shoot the guy point blank with 308 nato ball and the reporter even stood on one foot and said he didn’t feel nothing and it didn’t even knock him back off one foot
@@user-oy9zy4ds9m That's got to be marketing bullshit. He probably stuck a solid plate to absorb the shock. Even a handgun on soft armor is going to hurt like hell.
@@themanhimself3 I'm guessing the round had barely any powder in it too. There's no way anyone isn't taking a few steps back from a 308 and wheezing at the very least, even with a solid plate.
I took a 7.62 to the chest in Iraq. Knocked me on my ass and fractured my sternum. Luckily, it was from about 300 meters, so the thing had slowed a bit. I was sore for a while and needed a new plate, but finished that firefight on my feet.
Why did you go over there? You shouldn't have been there
@@playerx2006 that's one of the most asinine things I've read today on TH-cam.
@@DemiSamaKun It's true
@@playerx2006 it's one thing to say damn you was sent to fight in a proxy war vs what you asked and said.
Most combat troops didn't know the reasons, some knew less than people back home. The troops on the ground don't have much say, you go looking for weapons and can't find shit. Plus most of the population was on board at the start, misguided by bad Intel from federal intelligence agencies wanting to play the board. This popularity is why bush jr got in office and people so easily gave away freedom for security.
We all know today it was a bust and flop of an operation but that's from leaked documents, educated look, details of who attacked, details of why the USA wanted to invade, and the troops that paid the price.
@@DemiSamaKun Your first sentence is what I mean lol
Those results are why I would use nothing less than level IV or metal plates. That extra couple of pounds of plate is going to protect from broken bones too. If I need to wear body armor, it's going to be the good stuff. Level III is still going to get you hurt in the long run. I'd rather still be in the fight than writhing in pain from severely broken ribs. So, I'd like to see the comparison of metal plates and level IV, vs level III. I doubt there'd be much body damage if at all with the higher rated plates.
Yep always go level IV. I steer clear from steel, bullet frags will shred you. Even with a good coating or spall sleeve, those won't hold up after a few hits, they shred along the edges as the fragments slide along the steel, so the ruggedness of steel really doesn't hold up unless you have multiple spall sleeves on hand to change up. Plus they're heavy. Ceramic/polyethylene will stop larger threats. There's a reason they don't issue steel plates anymore.
The problem with that reasoning is that whatever your armor is, your NIJ level is always zero if you aren't wearing it, and with Level IV, unless you live in an actual war zone or have the luxury of knowing when danger will come ie serving a warrant, you will never, ever be wearing the stuff when sh*t goes down. Never.
It's just not practical in any sense of the word to be wearing Level IV day in and out. It's heavy. It's not concealable, at all, and in any urban or settled area, you will have non-stop law enforcement encounters if you go around in public with the stuff. Doesn't matter if it's legal or not. You will have problems.
Another issue people don't seem to fully appreciate is that plates cover a really, really small area of your body. Critical areas to be sure, but far less than what a good IIIA soft vest covers.
It's not a bad idea for anyone or everyone to own a set of ceramic plates, but the only armor that will save you in the vast majority of scenarios is the armor you have on before trouble starts, and that should be tailored to the realistic threats you face. For most civilians most of the time, that means handgun rounds.
@@kenofken9458Great points! I think by not standing out and blending into the environment is the best idea. In a civil unrest, the ability to blend in is safer because a tactical vest will only get you in trouble. The advantage of being slightly harder to kill by a rifle is easily outweighed by not being a target in the first place, and that's why i wear a 3A concealable vest.
Cool content as always. You said that it is a level III plate so it should stop hits from 308 and 7.62-54R. Level IV would be for 30-06 M2. Not a big deal since you talked about level IV after that i think that was already on your mind.
Get you some g-shock stickers you can measure the G-force excreted on the surface of the gel. I have never seen any phew phew channel do this, you would be the first.
oooh i like that idea
Surprised by the 375 H&M’s doing more damage? It may have 30% less velocity but it has 500% more energy
Would love see a future video on ballistic torso wearing jacket clothing, etc. and shoot it with 9x19 defensive rounds out of carry pistols such as p365
I’d say it’d go right through at most possibly lose expansion on hollow points
I would like to see torso in a ballistic jacket. I always wondered how bad it would be being shot in a ballistics jacket lv 3a.
A leather gun holster find one and use it I bet you have One
Omg I'm literally online now looking for chest rigs and plate carriers lol!!! I plan to make my own plates so 5his video is right on time! Dam!!:):):). I shoulda known One shot would have the video of the day:)
How does this channel not have ten times as many subscribers?
DUDE!!!!! Edit your videos ASAP. You are showing the loading of magazines and you will get STRIKES!!!!!!!!! You have a great channel, don't let them get you too.............
I remember a few years back when some people thought 10mm was similar in power to 44mag.
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👍😊 good video, it shows the reasons for my go to chooses.
Can we just take a moment to show the mustache some love 💕... I can’t pull it off but props to you that can ..
"Good grief its snowing hard" ok Charlie Brown
On boney areas I'd would cause a contusion of the bone. This would be a "bruise" time injury similar to a skin bruise. The force not strong enough to break bone but cause trauma to the bone exterior.
375 H&H Mag, shoots a 270 Grain Bullet at the Same Velocity as a 30/O6 in 180 Grains.
Do annealed, high carbon steel plates, over hard leather armor
I've always wondered if you stacked a soft and a hard body armor if that will increase there effectiveness?
Yes and now. A pretty common configuration is to have a IIIA soft vest with a hard plate in the pocket. That gives an otherwise pistol rated armor rifle stopping capability. It also creates a degree of stab and blunt force protection.
At the same time, if that hard plate gets defeated by a rifle round, the soft armor will almost certainly not stop it.
Before I watch your next video, I mustache you a question.
Human torso vs 22lr different ammo and barrel sizes
what grain 5.56 did you use?
Your videos are the best! Love them all, can't wait for the next one!
Testing, soft body body armor is a good idea. Do you ever try it with the pressure because sometimes the sheer pressure of the bullet will knock the wind out of you and disorient you enough that you could get hurt
I meant to say pressure plate, a measure of the foot pounds of force that a bullet exerts on the body
Duly noted: don't get shot by .44 magnum.
I've been waiting so long for this video!!!!!!
You local Bigfoot is now ordering that body armor.
Was your "5.56" actually steel case Russian .223? Because that has a different effect than full house 5.56, either M193 or M855
You didn’t mention it but the soft armor looked like quite a few ribs were broken.. and someone who’s had broken ribs that sucks !!!
Not that it's applicable , but in a martial arts studio i was in one guy came in with a TKD body protector to wear in sparring . After about 5 good body shots he took it off saying it felt like it made things WORSE . It didnt matter where he got hit , it just seemed to transfer all the energy into his body . Obviously kicks and punches aren't bullets but man getting shot wearing that soft armor would still be a helluva thump
Hard plate??? could you be a bit more specific? Hard plate as in laminated poly plate, AR500, ceramic???
You choosing an AR15 or AK?
That is one unfortunate test dummy
Loved it man great video!
Another great video!
Get in shape, and carry the extra 23lbs of “AR500 Steel Plates” with some sort of spalling protection. You’ll be safe from all of these calibers, definitely. - Jason/Freedom Fighter Until Death/Vermont, DSA (‘DSA’, meaning “The Divided States Of America”)
Great test…. Great vid as always 😊
Hella cool.🔥
Anh băn sung chuẩn 👍
Great video ++
Informative 😎👍👍💯
Finally
wear soft over hard armor
Everyone knows larpers use the community park just like in "role models" 😂😂
First you get a “little bulge” while checking out “the back side”, two minutes later you’re talking about putting two in the same hole. That’s just dirty, man
Russia will buy the used body armor from you. Keep up the great work 👍
They won't buy any armor for their troops that actually defeats any round!
*"I wasn't trying to put 2 in the same hole."*
Gotta love all the dirty jokes that come out of the gun community. Lube, penetration, protection... My mind goes straight to the gutter! 😂
Personally I use trauma pads even if the plates state they are stand alone
Can not here you.
Shame you keep hitting same spot. Kind of negates the validity of the test!
Dump the mustache
I love your videos so much man ❤❤
I don't LARP in my mom's basement..... I do it in someone else's moms basement
Have you ever tested them at a distance? It would be interesting to see how the armor works at say 100 or 200 yards. Especially with the higher powered rifles. Awesome video though, very thorough!
You should use blocks of clay instead of the gummi torso. That way, you can see the cavity the impact creates
Buffman Range does that. This is a good idea too.
I actually have done that in previous videos. Will do more in the future
In temperatures below freezing wouldn't clay be hard like a cement block
that would be a " clay more " hahahahaha....Im being stoopid
No
Damn this guy is dedicated lol it’s coming a full on blizzard and he’s just like yo this plate carrier is the shit 😂😂😂
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Question...If you want accurate shot placement on these tests, why not use a bench instead of just standing there shooting? I think your shot placement would be a little more consistent on this type of test. I do enjoy your videos!
this video was awesome
Thank you!
Im a big fan of 20 minute videos when they are good , keep doing them. Better every time out man.
Great video!! After wearing soft body armor during my 30 years of LE, I always wondered how good it worked. Your videos have made me very thankful that I never had to rely on it. Also thankful that mine was given to me upon retirement.
Thank you!
I hope the armor isn't 30 years old. They are only rated for +/- 5 years
Would've liked to have seen a slug. And honestly the soft armor would've been better to use in the front torso for rib breaks. I think we would've seen more damage on ribs than on spine
How does this guy not have more followers?!
I'd really like to see this test done with a steel armor plate. I feel like we'd see less internal damage since there'd be minimal backface deformation.
I agree. While light weight armor is good for now while we have hospitals and such, if SHTF happens, it seems to me that metal armor will be a more long lasting product.
@@rumdog117yeah but steel armor is never rated at level 4 so ceramic will provide more protection and you don't have the threat of sprawling that you have with steel armor
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️...interesting test you've got there, you see everybody shooting soft/hard armor on a torso but sometimes they use the clear torso's to show, the ones who do use the "fully equipped" torso's and fine but..but they never use that to show which would give off more shock against the body, highly like that test, nice job and smart thinking making a video I know I've never seen..... the stache gets the vid another ⭐️
Haha! Thank you. The stache is coming in nicely
I’ve never noticed. You shoot a pistol right handed but rifles and shotguns lefty?
I love your vids keep up the good work
I feel like the difference of the body not having any muscles definitely makes it weaker than a real body
They are far weaker, even clothing provides protection
Major thing with a lot of these tests, they are definitely not 100% anatomically accurate they change density based on temperature and they guts and skull aren't lined up sometimes, they just give a basic visualization
gm lucky snow we got heat 80's tampa...........
So good to see you at 271k subs, man.
Been here since 30k or so and will be here for as long as the channel exists.
Great video, as always, brother.
But, I'm not so sure about the 'stache.
I like that trench gun.
Im going to get it out more. It’s my favorite shotgun
I'm not even 2 minutes into the video and I'm already amped about that slim plate carrier...with 6 mag pouches too!! Ok, you know how to make people spend money, premier you say? (Types in browser lol). I've looked a t hundreds of plate carriers this morning and bam! You ironically have the one I want:). It's slim, and holds mags....yes yes yes lol! (Unpauses video)
Would you please ever consider selling that gun the trench gun?
The .44 out of a carbine will likely have a higher velocity due to the longer barrel length. Not sure that is a valid test - the 3A armor is rated for most pistol calibers fired from a PISTOL.
I think the NIJ standard is 1,340 fps for .44 magnum. In carbines, it can reach 1,600 or even north of 1,700 fps and that's where soft armor technology starts to reach beyond the limit of what it can do.
It's kind of pointless to test armor way beyond its rating, especially in one-off tests, because the results tell you nothing useful from a statistical perspective.
Yeah the video was a little longish for this channel but whatever, still a good video👍
Great video! I hope boobtube doesn't strike you for loading those pistol mags.
From what i’ve heard its only the 30rd mags they’re doing that for but you never know these days
@@1ShotTV Oh ok, you hear and see all kinds of crazy today.
Again great video.👍🏻
Thx for the great vid. Keep them torsos coming 😁
On the handgun side you are missing the more interesting 9mm caliber cartridges - 357 Sig/Mag. Slow heavy 10mm is really boring on 3a
Thank you! I have a 357 sig i should get out more. Not much ammo for it though
@@1ShotTV that would be cool, love the Sig. Some of the Underwood Xtreme Defenders or Penetrators would probably hurt the most
How long is the barrel on the mare's leg? Could be different results with pistol length barrel.
Enquanto isso nos Estudos unidos está nevando 🌨️aqui no Brasil está muito calor 🌞
I wonder what would happen if you put a thin steel armor plate behind the ceramic plate. Would the energy of the back face deformation be spread out to the entire steel plate and stop or at least greatly reduce, any internal injuries? Same with a soft armor plate behind the hard ceramic?
Basically: "yes"
A thin steel plate would help as a backer behind ceramic.
A foam backer behind the ceramic would be helpful.
@@woodsghost9088so u are basically saying a hard outer layer to stop penetration then a soft inner layer to absorb shock and trauma
@@techphile3262 good question. Sorry I must not have been clear.
A hard ceramic face disrupts the bullet and helps break it up into smaller pieces which have less power to punch through things.
A thin steel backer would distribute force as the ceramic face breaks up and results in back force deformation.
Having a foam backer will eat up some back face deformation. It's basically a comfortable spacer between your body and the armor.
Having something like Kevlar behind a ceramic face, or polyethylene, will capture the fragments from a bullet or ceramic bits as the bullet hits the ceramic face and both (a portion of) the ceramic and the bullet are destroyed. The polyethylene would be a solid material which eats up frag. The Kevlar fibers would give but reduce the back face deformation and act as something of a spacer, like foam.
Let me know if there are further questions.
One of my pet peeves is when I go into a place that sells ammo, optics, guns, accessories or whatever is when the guy working in that section has no fucking idea what he’s talking about. You try to have a conversation with them and they just don’t know what the hell you’re talking about and they can’t even give you an educated opinion.
Filling retail and service jobs is near impossible these days. You're lucky to get someone who shows up three days in a row not strung out on drugs. Asking for serious knowledge is a far stretch.
That shattered rib would be the worst pain ever, even bruised ribs hurt for months
В мене стріляли 9mm пістолетом,я був у бронижелеті з кевлару і скажу вам біль нестерпний коли попадають в груди чи ребра.
LOL ... when you flipped the hard plate up it reminded me of Dumb and dumber ..... what if he shot you in the face? .... what would happen if you put soft armor on one of the gel heads? like if someone stuck their head into one of the soft armor backpacks ....
Haha! Seriously a good idea
Had to give you a thumbs down and stop watching the video. I understand using two sides of the (very expensive) ballistic dummy ($hout out to them) a$ well as the plate and soft armor (again shout out to Premier) . It was snowing but don't be lazy. I want to see each hit on the soft armor (and the penetration, I said penetration) otherwise it just looks like roast beef. Still love the channel and will continue to watch
Trauma plates are a real friend to body armor.
Test 762x25 on level 3
Kentucky Ballistics shot those with his elephant guns and it still stopped all of them. Great body armor
Kinetic energy is half mass times velocity squared. So bullet weight matters even though velocity does matter more. But a slower bullet can do more damage than a faster bullet if it’s weight is significantly more.
Fun video!!! Glad it was you out in the snow and cold, and not me!!!!! 😂😂😂
Soft body armor, such as the Premier Tee shirt, is level IIIA. It is meant to stop hand gun rounds, not rifle rounds. For non LEO wearers, you will most likely encounter a 9 mm hand gun and if it hits you in the plate, you will survive.
By hard you must have ceramic not steel. I wouldn't call ceramic hard. I bought plate because strangely enough there was only a pound or two difference.
This video seems somewhat biased. If you actually watch the trial, they go into great detail on the exact condition of his face. Which would be impossible if he was shot in this manner. His head did not explode the same way. You should do another video showing a shot from 2-3 ft away, which the prosecution was claiming happened.
Dounut operater once showed body cam footage where they were going after an attempted murder suspect and the cop got shot and still stayed in the fight. Needless to say the suspect died and it only the cop a bruise.
Ah yes the selfie demoranch cringe format is the ideal format. A legit carbon copy
He got the mustache out
Next video bulletproof Mask
I wish you would of took the plates out of the Carryer to see what they look like
Wish u woulda took the steel plate out of the carrier so we could see how well the coating held up on the edges. And then it would be cool if u wrapped another steel plate with a few layers of gorilla duct tape around the edges or even around the whole thing to see the difference between duct tape and w/o