cause he's lying. i think it would be a good opportunity to show how bad steroids are. be like "i had to stop my blood work was getting crazier and crazier and i would perhaps die if i kepts this up for 2 more weeks" instead he lied about his doses and said he's quitting for a bunch of random reasons that make no sense. i dont think he's doing it to be purposely deceptive. i think he's actually delusional and trying to convince himself of these things, but it's still not truthful. I guarantee if his bloodwork was all good he wouldn't be stopping.
i know this is true because just like everyone else that blasts for peak performance for long periods of time, he's planning on stopping and getting healthy and then getting right back into it once he's healthy again. its crazy, especially at his age.
Exactly! 1st time i ever saw him i guesed he was mid 50s. That was a couple years ago. When i found out his age i spit out my coffee and i wasn't even drinking any,😁. I'm 43 and he makes me look 23. 😂
@@callidawkins85 Mike O'hearn is the same age as me! At 55, I still look very young for my age but Mike O'hearn gets facial treatments as Armon Adibi has said, he gets them done by is best friend down in Texas! So far I've not had to go that route even with PED use over the years! When he stated if he had used PEDs he would look a lot older! I called him out as BS of course he or his mods removed my comment! ! I use them and still do! It's what you use and meds that prevent those side effects! There's zero way at my age I can put on good size and strength without Using PEDs! Period!
Yeah, he has in fact been overly cautious about them and tends to always speak negatively about them - Which is exactly what Greg has used as fuel for his attacks in several videos.
Bro has whole ass vids basically saying don't use PEDs. Also has gone in depth how PEDs have given him severe anxiety, intellectual decrease, etc...Greg is bugging.
the dangers are massively over played. at serious abuse yes, that's what they not saying. lol a billion women use hormones for contraception that are many many times over the normal levels of estrogen and progesterone. You actually think male hormones are THAT toxic?
Gregg, this behavior is petty. Mike took a dig at you a while back, and it's time to move on. Your reverse psychology, masked as "helping," is just a way to relentlessly go after anyone who dares to speak out against Coach Gregg. Calling your audience "morons" is not only ironic but also disrespectful. Your content can thrive without drama or clickbait titles, just like Mike Israetel, who doesn’t use clickbait and is very successful. I've watched many of your videos, and they often come across as ridiculous. If you must, sell your products like Turk directly without the unnecessary drama. You demand Mike show his blood work, but why not show us randomized controlled trials of your Turk that you claim is better than creatine, which has a mountain of empirical data backing it. And please, don’t involve your brother Steve. Oh wait, you don’t have to-because you believe your fans, whom you call "morons," will believe you regardless. Well played.
Im a huge fan of Greg cuz he helps a lot of ppl but this video is him beating down Mike after listening to him. Coach Greg it’s going to be harder for you to help ppl when u have reputation of being clout hungry. It’s hard to defend you when you do videos like this
Greg was one of the factors that contributed to my 100 pounds weight loss so I am forever grateful for his content, but I have since lost interest for the reasons you just mentionned
Obsessed? Greg's video are well-argumented and infomrative enve when he criticizes Mike, Mike Isretel instead has thrown backhand insults to Greg without reason several before Greg even started making video on him (see Mike's interview with Jonny).
You really need to grow up and stop being immature. He’s trying to save someone’s life making an airhead comment doesn’t make you smart. It makes you very immature.
Good job, Greg. Btw I am here to troll and will be leaving hate comments saying how I stoppped watching your videos and will be leaving the same comment in future videos. Keep up the good work.
I just want to commend Coach Greg on his drug abuse education, his ability to speak from experience and with empathy. I wonder if maybe Mike listened to his concerns. I love Mike's content, as well, and hope that he realizes he is special, enough, and admired, even without his pro card. This video caused me to look at my own life and values.
Yet he is in denial and still staying on gear ⚙️ still. To gain his respect back he needs to stop gear then go to a real doctor for a prescription of testosterone 🧐
Uhh, damn dude, what do you want from him? He already freely admits anabolic steroids are bad for you health. He said he's quitting competitive bodybuilding, not being super jacked. I dunno, I watched that whole video and he was pretty clear of what he's doing. Mike doesn't push gear use and actually highly recommends against it. Whatever his personal training is, that's all him. I think any mature follower of his can make rational decisions on taking gear based on the facts that Mike does put out there. He says unequivocally steroids are bad for you and he completely admits they're bad for him personally too.
I think his point is that he wrecked his body and that's why he's coming off... So even though he's like don't take it, if he in fact did mess himself up, and hides it. He's concealing the negative effects, the reality of taking the stuff... You can't really see the negative effects until you cut open a cadaver, even then it isn't real because its hard to put yourself in that person's shoes and feel those changes...
You can tell from watching Mikes video that he doesnt plan on quitting. He wants to build his arms up and cut back on his legs and is already thinking about "competing in a few years." Every thought I ever had about doing something in the future I did the next day.
As someone whos been an alcoholic and addicted to weed i can tell you that addicts lie. Not only to others but ourself. Love both mike and greg. Lets hope mike can see the light and stop lying to himself.
I hate how people complain about him making these videos than watch every single one in its entirety, people really don’t know what they want, they say they want authentic and informative videos then when Greg makes them nobody watches it, people acting like they wouldn’t make videos to maximise views if they were in his position
The fact that Mike is almost 10 years younger than Greg but looks like he's 10 years older than Greg is the only proof you need of Greg's superior fitness and bodybuilding knowledge.
Well competitive bodybuilding will do that to you. If he follows through with what he says in the video TRT dose and dropping 20 pounds he will look much younger within a years time.
@@301forever sure, but I'm just saying if running the 100 yard dash required snorting coke and taking fentanyl, I don't think you'd find major channels talking casually about their usage
@@j.e.t.v4016 Every sporting competitors in the top level scene of every category is on PEDs, but yeah, they don't talk about it because there is rules within the competition against taking them. For the world class bodybuilding competitions, there isn't, because its a more honest sport.
@@JT-yx7vf sure. Are there rules against committing tax fraud explicitly in other sports? If it came out that a high profile athlete committed tax fraud, would it negatively impact their career prospects? I'm not offended on any emotional level by this, but logically it seems so weird to me.
Greg is right. I live with my cousin and he's 16, we have been going to the gym about 6 months and now he's following all this shit of Sam Sulek, Togi and all these Junkies.... now I need to figure out how I can convince him to remain natural as he grows up.... All this social media shit is ruining everything
I have a 19 year old client and he’s really talented but of course he loves the loud and boisterous influencer stars. I’ve made it clear that he should wait at least 10 years into training naturally before going to the dark side. I fear it’s just a matter of time before he comes in and hits a 50 lb PR on his deadlift and I will know. There are other guys at the gym who openly discuss their SARM cycle and claim they are doing it safely because they get “bloodwork”. It’s such bullsh*t that these other guys will destroy their health for gym gains and Instagram pictures and openly discuss PEDs like it’s cool.
Greg acts like he cares about Mike’s health, but he doesn’t. Don’t forget when Greg was in support of that one guy getting limb lengthening surgery recently. Greg was completely fine with someone spending near $100k+ if he has the money despite all the severe health consequences from getting such an intrusive surgery that puts you at risk for so many things (just look them up, they’re pretty scary) if it helps his insecurities, but Mike putting his health at risk for something he loves doing is bad? Gtfo of here dude. I don’t buy this whole “Oh Greg cares about Mike’s health”. No he fucking doesn’t, miss me with all that.
The aging proces about Mike (difference between 34 and 40 years) isn't completely fair because he lost all his hair. Losing your hair could give someone a total different and sometimes aged look.
Greg can't handle that Dr. Mike called him "sociopath", and also took his jokes a little bit serious. It's pretty obvious that since that moment, Greg declared a war against him, and trying to discredit him in his videos, which tells a lot more about Greg than Mike...
Greg is doing all of that because it draws people like you to his channel, which creates more hate and drama and more views more clients 😂 He is a genius at that, but you folks just can't figure this out yet 😂
@@Damian_Materowski Yeah, my favorite part is that Mike doesn't take any part in this shitstorm. The smartest thing he can do is not fuel this nonsense drama any further by responding to it.
@@sludgyp3196 exactly - "shit stormers" who life of dramas only wait for your responding, explanations, arguing etc. The best way is to carry on with your things
I really enjoyed what you said about your experience as a bodybuilder with other responsibilities at the end. That Mike doesn’t want to do the art and he doesn’t want to suffer. If he wants to be a pro he will need to embrace it the way you did. As a student with interest in natural bodybuilding I am encouraged hearing your success as a college student and bodybuilder.
I don't get Greg, he has been pushing for Mike to retire from the competitive scene, which he has. Whatever his reasons for retiring doesn't matter, he retired! Let it be, move along
its because mike isratel is lying out of his teeth. This video isnt about bullying him, maybe prolonging the drama to an extent yes, but coach greg is calling out dr. mike for lying about why hes quitting and about the excuses hes making in his video.
@@mr.mustachio7338Greg will not be satisfied until Mike says it's all down to Greg. Which is probably not true, and will likely never happen. It's important to remember that Greg's model is all about leeching off other TH-camrs/influencers. It's no surprise arguably the best bodybuilding channel on TH-cam is being taken for a ride from Greg. I don't begrudge Greg anything, I enjoy a lot of his videos, but there is no denying his methods.
I don't understand the shaming on this one. I understand if you are having an argument with someone, but Greg knows that this is an addiction. I would expect more empathy
Something most people seem not able to understand. Obviously he's doing it for views and to plug his products all the while simply stating facts about the situation @@EarhirX
Mike has been super transparent with us all this while. I would take his word for it. It is actually very smart for him to step down and focusing on RP for now since they are at the all time high of their career. That is very smart to keep growing the organice audience and selling the app instead of having to pander on everyone just to get views like you do sir
Let’s be real Mike is not telling the truth. He didn’t stop two weeks out on one of the best body building preps he done because he didn’t want to hire help for his multi million dollar business. If you believe Mike is telling the truth I have a bridge to sell you.
You told him to retire. And still ain't satisfied. It's pretty obvious by now that you're holding a deep seated grudge that's consuming you. Perhaps he should tell you to work on your mental well being.
I dont think dr mike would lie about retiring when he has been very honest about everything he has done and is doing even with his steroid use. You posted numerous videos saying stop dr mike but he stops and that isnt good enough for you. I get it , its about the views but cmon now there are pleanty of other topics or influencers you can cover.
The only thing bigger than their muscles, is their ego/pride. That's a possible reason mike might be lying. He doesn't want to say the others were right. I agree however that this video is a low blow, no need to milk it more. Dude took a tough decision.
Ya know... I was gonna say that Greg going after Dr Mike after taking his own advice and retiring was really weird and getting repetitive. But honestly Greg makes a good point. How is it possible for Mike to drop down between 180 and 200lbs? He's already shredded at 227lbs. And yea he's reducing his cycle, but he's already on relatively low doses. Doesn't really seem to add up tbh 🤔
I commented that on his video, I was like huh?? You're hitting a PR after a competition?? The only other person to do that was Larry Wheels at his first competition when he was soft
mike is one of those guys that is honest about some things as manipulation, while lying about many other things. im not sure why everyone likes to lie about their doses. everyone wants to be special i guess. it's hard to admit you're not special.
lmao mike doesnt care about "Coach Greg"😂.... Mike has more Education, more money, more followers and overall he doesnt have to make content attacking others. Then "Coach Greg" will try and hide behind "Hey im just a truth teller", smh it's such a cop out. Greg can be as rude and as disrespectful as he wants to be towards people for "clicks" and "likes" and then say "Hey dont be mad at me, im just a truth teller". Mikes been pretty damn honest about what hes experienced with steroid use and how much he struggles with the side effects. "Coach Greg" mad Mike didn't buy his cook book for $895😂😂🤡🤡 Oh and this is coming from someone who likes this channel but to take a page out of "Coach Gregs" book: "Dont be mad im just telling the truth"... Like the channel but man Greg is rude af.
Everyone should notice after the first video Greg only shows Mike’s front lot spreading back lat spread, because those are his best poses. Because Greg isn’t trying to shame the guy he’s just being honest. His front relaxed, and his back lat spread are amazing.
you keep pretending mike is on extreme amounts of peds when his dosages are equal or less than other aspiring or current pros. please stop lying to your viewers for clicks.
Equal to or less than is perhaps truth. But more than he should because clearly he can't handle it. That's the point that you're missing in all of this. And yes it is extreme. They all are extreme. And that's the bigger point everyone needs to realize.
@@Editor_Steve its not that he couldn't handle it.. it seems more that his e2 was crashed.. so actually if he took more test he would have been better off mentally speaking
@@Editor_Steve If the point is that they are all extreme, then why is Greg acting like Mike is an outlier with what he is using and targeting Mike for minimal total load amounts instead of making videos saying "everyone is using much more than this"?
@videolynx4271 that's a good theory. Crashing e2 isn't good. Which could be from too high femera doses or a whole host of other reasons. The point is, the things he "needs" to do to look his best (which it was and he looked good) is too much of a strain for him and any other person for that matter.
So glad you are calling him out. His video was full of excuses. Took zero accountability for coming in out of shape. The one thing in his control he failed at.
I don’t get why people hate coach Greg so much he is the most honest and transparent fitness TH-camr on the platform, He tells the truth upfront no bs and he is funny
how do you even get from 100 to 175 a week, you must either change esters and or frequency or youd administer the weirdest numbers. Did he do 50 twice a week (tren E 250) and then switched to mondays 100 and fridays. 75? cause he most certainly didnt do 87.5 twice a week. Or did he do 25 every day and started with 100? all possible but seems weird ,from the numbers.
@@Austrian_Oak Daily administration of everything is normal. Everyone is doing daily doses of anything else days because more stable levels of anything is considered better. Why not daily administration of E?
@@JT-yx7vf sure, to how did he do daily E with 100 a week? 16,7mg a day? when 250mg per ml? or did he do twice a week and then change his philosophy to every day? just wondering.
67 year old former AAS using elite powerlifter from the 80s and 90s here: Doucette speaks the truth. I used for years and years when the shit was still real and domestically produced: Test, Anadrol, Dianabol, Winny, etc. Doses were humongous. I was one crazy, ego-driven, insecure, anger prone motherfucker, but boy could I push big numbers and stand out in any gym. I remember getting an ovation from the pro boys hanging out at the original Golds in Santa Monica after I repped out in the dead with 705 at 220 back in 84. I made Don Ross and his crew shit themselves at his gym in Oakland after doing the same thing in the squat while visiting in 83. Those were still big numbers back in the day. Decades later, I have to admit that it definitely wasn't worth it for both my physical and mental well-being, but nobody could have convinced me otherwise at the time. Doucette has good intentions, but I feel he's wasting his time with most younger viewers. Insecurity, fragile egos, and pharmaceutical quick fixes are hard obstacles for common sense alternatives to overcome.
GREG STILL NOT HAPPY AFTER MIKE TAKES HIS ADVICE 🤣
Because Greg doesn't care about the person he is making the video about. He cares about the views and selling you his products
He took his advice not enough. It needs be taken harder than last time 😅
cause he's lying. i think it would be a good opportunity to show how bad steroids are. be like "i had to stop my blood work was getting crazier and crazier and i would perhaps die if i kepts this up for 2 more weeks"
instead he lied about his doses and said he's quitting for a bunch of random reasons that make no sense. i dont think he's doing it to be purposely deceptive. i think he's actually delusional and trying to convince himself of these things, but it's still not truthful. I guarantee if his bloodwork was all good he wouldn't be stopping.
i know this is true because just like everyone else that blasts for peak performance for long periods of time, he's planning on stopping and getting healthy and then getting right back into it once he's healthy again. its crazy, especially at his age.
He misses the views, he needs to expand the drama. To milk it dry
Coach Gregs new villian arc is being an absolute menace to all of YT fitness 😂
New?? 😂😂😂
Absolute top g
Really shouldn't be this way. Fitness community is the most toxic community and it should've been the complete opposite
He's on a fuckin tare 😂. Woke up to see mpmd got his wrath today 😂. I'm here for it
@@nomad2076coz they’re all fucking fake and im sick and tired of it
The sexual tension that Greg has for Dr Mike should be studied
Lmao
It's caused by Gatorade and cheerios
And tren twins
@@tonystyles21 and fat jiu-jitsu
@@phumiephumie19 and Turk
Greg’s upload schedule:
Mike Israetel
Tren twins
Tren twins
Supplement Ad vid
Mike israetel
mike israetel
Tren twins
Supplement ad vid
What about Sam sulek
All videos are supplement ad videos though
Jeff N, Sam
I only believe Turk. And these vshred ads…..
U missed the natty or not 😮
Dr Mike's screams at 5:02 are gonna be around for a long time 😂😂💀😭
Those screams will live on forever 😂😬😵
He's acting like he's giving birth, looking like a human tumor.
Really embarrassing to see a guy in his 40s screaming like that doing hammy curls.
Yeah Mike has been making an ass of himself really bad lately. I think Greg’s clowning makes it even worse but also funnier.
It actually helps, increases strength@@Cas_anova
The Bloodwork said "My guy you are 40 looking 55, F around and find out Mikey". He then did that growl that freaked you out Greg.
I'm 55 and I promise you he looks much older than me!
Exactly! 1st time i ever saw him i guesed he was mid 50s. That was a couple years ago. When i found out his age i spit out my coffee and i wasn't even drinking any,😁. I'm 43 and he makes me look 23. 😂
@@quantumfx2677 wait what? Is this Mike guy not in his late 50s? I gotta look this up. I swear I thought he was 60.
@@callidawkins85 Mike O'hearn is the same age as me! At 55, I still look very young for my age but Mike O'hearn gets facial treatments as Armon Adibi has said, he gets them done by is best friend down in Texas! So far I've not had to go that route even with PED use over the years! When he stated if he had used PEDs he would look a lot older! I called him out as BS of course he or his mods removed my comment! ! I use them and still do! It's what you use and meds that prevent those side effects! There's zero way at my age I can put on good size and strength without Using PEDs! Period!
@@callidawkins85this man is just 5 yrs older than me
Damn coach Greg won't leave Dr Mike alone😢
I’m tryna figure out why coach Greg hates him
@@RavWayhe doesn't imo hes just after the views
Do you people even watch the videos?@@RavWay
hes looking out for him@@RavWay
@@RavWaywhen did he say he hates mike?
Dr mike honestly changed my life , giving me all the info I need to become a better lifter and person tbh. Both of y’all are great content creators.
But now he juicing? Lol 😂
@@tmcurly what ?
Let`s be fair, he`s talked a lot about the dangers and side effects of PED`s..
Many many many many times. Greg is insane here
Yeah, he has in fact been overly cautious about them and tends to always speak negatively about them - Which is exactly what Greg has used as fuel for his attacks in several videos.
Bro has whole ass vids basically saying don't use PEDs. Also has gone in depth how PEDs have given him severe anxiety, intellectual decrease, etc...Greg is bugging.
@@Metheny72 exactly. What is showing his bloodwork going to do? Prove PED’s are bad? Like Dr. Mike has said THOSUDANDS of times??? Come on Greg
the dangers are massively over played. at serious abuse yes, that's what they not saying. lol a billion women use hormones for contraception that are many many times over the normal levels of estrogen and progesterone. You actually think male hormones are THAT toxic?
0:01"show us the bud work"
Dr Mike doing them leg curls & screaming like a mad man is crazier than last time.🎉🎉❤😂
I know man that shit was whack lmaooo
Screaming on isolation exercises is embarrassing. Roid behavior.
He looked like an* old* man in that clip 🤣🤣
@@paavola2 I still have yet to see him go to failure, even when claiming it's failure.
Mike Israetel living rent free in Greg Doucette head
True but Greg is right
I think Mike Israetel is helping Greg to pay the rent 💰🤑
I've heard Israetel ranting about greg on podcasts, I'd say they're in each other's heads
Funny how the tables turn huh?
Keep boosting the algo lil bro
I think the bloodwork said: "keep going and next month you are dead".
God bad news for you, most steroid users bloodwork isn't nearly as bad as people think it is. That is a common myth.
It's slightly annoying when it's recieved on the last day of the Month.
@@tumekeehoa3121 just a minor inconvenience lol
Gregg, this behavior is petty. Mike took a dig at you a while back, and it's time to move on. Your reverse psychology, masked as "helping," is just a way to relentlessly go after anyone who dares to speak out against Coach Gregg. Calling your audience "morons" is not only ironic but also disrespectful.
Your content can thrive without drama or clickbait titles, just like Mike Israetel, who doesn’t use clickbait and is very successful. I've watched many of your videos, and they often come across as ridiculous. If you must, sell your products like Turk directly without the unnecessary drama.
You demand Mike show his blood work, but why not show us randomized controlled trials of your Turk that you claim is better than creatine, which has a mountain of empirical data backing it. And please, don’t involve your brother Steve. Oh wait, you don’t have to-because you believe your fans, whom you call "morons," will believe you regardless. Well played.
Im a huge fan of Greg cuz he helps a lot of ppl but this video is him beating down Mike after listening to him. Coach Greg it’s going to be harder for you to help ppl when u have reputation of being clout hungry. It’s hard to defend you when you do videos like this
he makes some good points* but it definetley is redundant and kindof not needed
mike is fraud....he deserved it
Greg was one of the factors that contributed to my 100 pounds weight loss so I am forever grateful for his content, but I have since lost interest for the reasons you just mentionned
Why do i have a love hate relationship with coach gregs videos! So addictive whether i agree or not 😂
More obsessed with Mike than last time
😂
Obsessed? Greg's video are well-argumented and infomrative enve when he criticizes Mike, Mike Isretel instead has thrown backhand insults to Greg without reason several before Greg even started making video on him (see Mike's interview with Jonny).
100%
You really need to grow up and stop being immature. He’s trying to save someone’s life making an airhead comment doesn’t make you smart. It makes you very immature.
@@Painintostrength Deez nuts are very mature
Good job, Greg. Btw I am here to troll and will be leaving hate comments saying how I stoppped watching your videos and will be leaving the same comment in future videos. Keep up the good work.
Helping the algorithm harder than last time.
I hate them too and stopped watching them which is why I still watch all of them and ordered HTLT supps yesterday
@@justin_bestI thought I was the only one
you forgot you will do all that harder than last time
Chase Irons showed you his bloodwork and you said it didn’t matter, how is this going to be any different?
I just want to commend Coach Greg on his drug abuse education, his ability to speak from experience and with empathy. I wonder if maybe Mike listened to his concerns. I love Mike's content, as well, and hope that he realizes he is special, enough, and admired, even without his pro card. This video caused me to look at my own life and values.
Yet he is in denial and still staying on gear ⚙️ still. To gain his respect back he needs to stop gear then go to a real doctor for a prescription of testosterone 🧐
Uhh, damn dude, what do you want from him? He already freely admits anabolic steroids are bad for you health. He said he's quitting competitive bodybuilding, not being super jacked. I dunno, I watched that whole video and he was pretty clear of what he's doing. Mike doesn't push gear use and actually highly recommends against it. Whatever his personal training is, that's all him. I think any mature follower of his can make rational decisions on taking gear based on the facts that Mike does put out there. He says unequivocally steroids are bad for you and he completely admits they're bad for him personally too.
Yet he still does them. There's no winning in this situation. If he keeps blasting, he's done for.
He needs content, that's why.
Mike didn't quit. He said it is a break for some years. That's not quitting
I think his point is that he wrecked his body and that's why he's coming off... So even though he's like don't take it, if he in fact did mess himself up, and hides it. He's concealing the negative effects, the reality of taking the stuff... You can't really see the negative effects until you cut open a cadaver, even then it isn't real because its hard to put yourself in that person's shoes and feel those changes...
he is a liar, ultra hypocrite and egomaniac... and back stabber....
who else thinks 150$ for a cook book its a bit much
That you can use for the rest of your life? Who else thinks you are being cheap AF?
@@jtel88 dont know if u knew, but there are countries where average pay its 300$ monthly. Who else thinks everyone can afford it?
@@jtel88dude stop, that is crazy pricing. 😂
Its to expensive buy used if u wish
@@robertthompson0buy used
Bullying grown men harder than last time 😂
Victim mindset
@@Railios103Calling a spade a spade
😂😂
@@dqrepshe ain’t bully nobody
“grown” is a bit of a stretch😂😂
You can tell from watching Mikes video that he doesnt plan on quitting. He wants to build his arms up and cut back on his legs and is already thinking about "competing in a few years." Every thought I ever had about doing something in the future I did the next day.
Rhoden passed away at 46. He wants to compete when? He is already 41?🤨
Down sizing legs is not something an aspiring IFBB open pro would ever do. Maintaining is One thing but downsizing? He is retired bro.
As someone whos been an alcoholic and addicted to weed i can tell you that addicts lie. Not only to others but ourself. Love both mike and greg. Lets hope mike can see the light and stop lying to himself.
I hate how people complain about him making these videos than watch every single one in its entirety, people really don’t know what they want, they say they want authentic and informative videos then when Greg makes them nobody watches it, people acting like they wouldn’t make videos to maximise views if they were in his position
good content. you should keep doing it, everyone loves this very one sided feud that is all about helping and not out of pettiness.
The fact that Mike is almost 10 years younger than Greg but looks like he's 10 years older than Greg is the only proof you need of Greg's superior fitness and bodybuilding knowledge.
Are you saying Mike looks 20 years older than he is?
Well competitive bodybuilding will do that to you. If he follows through with what he says in the video TRT dose and dropping 20 pounds he will look much younger within a years time.
@@iijjyes mike looks older
@@iijjyes mike look 57 to 60
@@iijjmike looked worse than somebody i knew wich smoked was an alcoholic and had cancer
Mike is so fun to watch and listen to, I don’t care about why he stopped, I’m just hoping he’s around a long time.
Still wild to me that Bodybuilding is the only sport where you can just get on camera and confess to crimes.
Why? It's an integral part of the sport of course it would be talked about regardless of legal status
they're not in the US so not a crime
@@301forever sure, but I'm just saying if running the 100 yard dash required snorting coke and taking fentanyl, I don't think you'd find major channels talking casually about their usage
@@j.e.t.v4016 Every sporting competitors in the top level scene of every category is on PEDs, but yeah, they don't talk about it because there is rules within the competition against taking them. For the world class bodybuilding competitions, there isn't, because its a more honest sport.
@@JT-yx7vf sure. Are there rules against committing tax fraud explicitly in other sports? If it came out that a high profile athlete committed tax fraud, would it negatively impact their career prospects? I'm not offended on any emotional level by this, but logically it seems so weird to me.
Mike Israetel : retiring harder than the last time
Greg is right. I live with my cousin and he's 16, we have been going to the gym about 6 months and now he's following all this shit of Sam Sulek, Togi and all these Junkies.... now I need to figure out how I can convince him to remain natural as he grows up.... All this social media shit is ruining everything
I have a 19 year old client and he’s really talented but of course he loves the loud and boisterous influencer stars. I’ve made it clear that he should wait at least 10 years into training naturally before going to the dark side. I fear it’s just a matter of time before he comes in and hits a 50 lb PR on his deadlift and I will know. There are other guys at the gym who openly discuss their SARM cycle and claim they are doing it safely because they get “bloodwork”. It’s such bullsh*t that these other guys will destroy their health for gym gains and Instagram pictures and openly discuss PEDs like it’s cool.
Greg acts like he cares about Mike’s health, but he doesn’t.
Don’t forget when Greg was in support of that one guy getting limb lengthening surgery recently.
Greg was completely fine with someone spending near $100k+ if he has the money despite all the severe health consequences from getting such an intrusive surgery that puts you at risk for so many things (just look them up, they’re pretty scary) if it helps his insecurities, but Mike putting his health at risk for something he loves doing is bad? Gtfo of here dude.
I don’t buy this whole “Oh Greg cares about Mike’s health”.
No he fucking doesn’t, miss me with all that.
Lord Mike Israetel driving Lamborghini's in Greg Doucette's head harder than last time.
Greg has Lambo’s as well..
Remember the orange one?
@@tmcurly It's a McLaren, not a Lambo stupid.
The aging proces about Mike (difference between 34 and 40 years) isn't completely fair because he lost all his hair. Losing your hair could give someone a total different and sometimes aged look.
Greg can't handle that Dr. Mike called him "sociopath", and also took his jokes a little bit serious. It's pretty obvious that since that moment, Greg declared a war against him, and trying to discredit him in his videos, which tells a lot more about Greg than Mike...
Greg is so much insecure and mind fragile that now it's his personal vendetta against Mike who...doesn't give a shit about it. Really mature Greg lol
Greg is doing all of that because it draws people like you to his channel, which creates more hate and drama and more views more clients 😂
He is a genius at that, but you folks just can't figure this out yet 😂
@@Damian_Materowski Yeah, my favorite part is that Mike doesn't take any part in this shitstorm. The smartest thing he can do is not fuel this nonsense drama any further by responding to it.
@@sludgyp3196 exactly - "shit stormers" who life of dramas only wait for your responding, explanations, arguing etc. The best way is to carry on with your things
Nah Mike tried bullying and discrediting by lying bout Greg. Don’t start nothing won’t be nothing
I really enjoyed what you said about your experience as a bodybuilder with other responsibilities at the end. That Mike doesn’t want to do the art and he doesn’t want to suffer. If he wants to be a pro he will need to embrace it the way you did.
As a student with interest in natural bodybuilding I am encouraged hearing your success as a college student and bodybuilder.
I don't get Greg, he has been pushing for Mike to retire from the competitive scene, which he has. Whatever his reasons for retiring doesn't matter, he retired! Let it be, move along
its because mike isratel is lying out of his teeth. This video isnt about bullying him, maybe prolonging the drama to an extent yes, but coach greg is calling out dr. mike for lying about why hes quitting and about the excuses hes making in his video.
@@mr.mustachio7338Greg will not be satisfied until Mike says it's all down to Greg. Which is probably not true, and will likely never happen. It's important to remember that Greg's model is all about leeching off other TH-camrs/influencers. It's no surprise arguably the best bodybuilding channel on TH-cam is being taken for a ride from Greg. I don't begrudge Greg anything, I enjoy a lot of his videos, but there is no denying his methods.
The reason is views
I don't understand the shaming on this one. I understand if you are having an argument with someone, but Greg knows that this is an addiction. I would expect more empathy
Something most people seem not able to understand. Obviously he's doing it for views and to plug his products all the while simply stating facts about the situation @@EarhirX
Thx for this vid coach! Health is always more important than views
Mike has been super transparent with us all this while. I would take his word for it. It is actually very smart for him to step down and focusing on RP for now since they are at the all time high of their career. That is very smart to keep growing the organice audience and selling the app instead of having to pander on everyone just to get views like you do sir
Was planning on watching that vid, now I dont need to anymore. Greg’s saving me more time than last time
Go watch the video, trust me. Then come back here and see if you feel the same.
@@xxStrombolixx I wouldn’t trust Greg’s cherry-picking of the actual video to give you a good viewpoint on it.
Haha I love how you manage to put in you're cookbook and coaching in the middle of everything..
Haha love it😂
Go coach Greg!
Love from Sweden
6:07 look we what we’ve done to Greg😂. “Yapping”…”GLAZING”
I can't believe Mike's only 40 , ten years younger than me and looks ten years older , that's one hard paper round
I thought he was 50+
Don't take it the wrong way. he looks much younger than you
Bro mike looks his age why are we lying to ourselves about this he looks about 40 maybe even younger
Straight 🧢. You look older.
The hair loss doesn't help, look at his videos from a few years ago when he still had a bit of hair and he looks much younger.
Why on earth should he have to show you his blood work?? Your delusion is starting to cloud your judgment harder than last time
Greg needs to have 7 more videos dissecting Mike’s blood work 🙄
Remember folks, when someone tells you they're the only one telling the truth, they are definitely not telling the truth
They are. Just not the full truth.
@@kloogyB33 or their "truth"
Is this true?
Let’s be real Mike is not telling the truth. He didn’t stop two weeks out on one of the best body building preps he done because he didn’t want to hire help for his multi million dollar business. If you believe Mike is telling the truth I have a bridge to sell you.
@@calle6075no
he already stepped back, no point in further bullying him 💀
Greg is trying to look out for him and his health
I don’t believe that’s bullying.
What bullying here?
@@Coke_colaa Yeah, it's not bullying. It's obsessive stalking like a bitter ex-GF
grow up if this is bullying you deserve to be bullied 😭
But he never admitted his diet sucked
I love that we consistently get 2 new videos of Coach Greg each day!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 I literally get excited when I get notified about a new Greg video!
You told him to retire. And still ain't satisfied. It's pretty obvious by now that you're holding a deep seated grudge that's consuming you. Perhaps he should tell you to work on your mental well being.
Coach Greg is RIGHT!
Coach Greg's yapping to glazing ratio is unheard of.
Why do people hate and make fun of greg when hes just preaching honesty
I dont think dr mike would lie about retiring when he has been very honest about everything he has done and is doing even with his steroid use. You posted numerous videos saying stop dr mike but he stops and that isnt good enough for you. I get it , its about the views but cmon now there are pleanty of other topics or influencers you can cover.
The only thing bigger than their muscles, is their ego/pride.
That's a possible reason mike might be lying. He doesn't want to say the others were right.
I agree however that this video is a low blow, no need to milk it more.
Dude took a tough decision.
Cause dude is 🤥
Mike Still not honest about everything in that video
Dr. Mike’s smile is sometimes a more realistic impression of Sméagol’s smile than what appeared in the LOTR films.
More old man drama than last time 😂
He just doesn't want people that go to the gym every day and see no growth to start abusing steroids
Ya know... I was gonna say that Greg going after Dr Mike after taking his own advice and retiring was really weird and getting repetitive. But honestly Greg makes a good point. How is it possible for Mike to drop down between 180 and 200lbs? He's already shredded at 227lbs. And yea he's reducing his cycle, but he's already on relatively low doses. Doesn't really seem to add up tbh 🤔
I doubt that Dr Mikes decision has very little to do with coach Greg ranting and raving like a rabid parrot
@@James-qw7cr I completely agree. Greg still makes a good point here regardless.
Watch Dr. Mikes video
@@aajohnsoutube I’ve seen them all
Mike's diet for bodybuilding was crap. He was like Hunter Labrada who blended his meals. Mike ate protein bars and cereal instead of whole foods.
Yet he is the so called expert .
Dude is a 🤡
5:02 I just love how whenever Greg talks about crippling anxiety, he uses this video of Mike screaming 😂😂
Demanding people show their bloodwork, which can be considered quite personal, is getting a little out of hand.
Makes you really wonder if Mike would’ve retired this early if Greg never made these videos.
12:32 RIP John Meadows 🙏
Show the blood work for what 😂. It’s his business
"unpleasant to be around"... Probably understatement of the year
Every video turns into Greg talking about himself.
Hello coach Greg I have been following you from Turkey. So my question is as a Turk do I need to take Turk builder?
WALLAHI
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Thats Arabic you retard.
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Its arabic you idiot.
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Thats Arabic😮💨😮💨😮💨
Coach Greg is not making my cookbook harder than last time with this one
Coach Greg screaming more than last time.
Coach Greg Glazing harder than last time 😂
his screams at 5:02 is going to be a meme for fitness YT (if it isn't already)
Greg is right: Mike’s blood work was scarier than last time.
I commented that on his video, I was like huh?? You're hitting a PR after a competition?? The only other person to do that was Larry Wheels at his first competition when he was soft
and why would that even matter? he is a bodybuilder. still ego lifting after all those years.
He is the biggest 🤥
Dr. Mike living rent free in Coach Greg's head harder than last time..
mike is one of those guys that is honest about some things as manipulation, while lying about many other things. im not sure why everyone likes to lie about their doses.
everyone wants to be special i guess. it's hard to admit you're not special.
I really like your honesty and transparency about everything you talk about. You are a great man Greg, keep going.
Mike pays less rent in Coach Gregs head than last time.
You really gotta admire how Greg actively tries incorporate gen z slang into his vocabulary. I lost it when he said he was glazing Mike.
lmao mike doesnt care about "Coach Greg"😂.... Mike has more Education, more money, more followers and overall he doesnt have to make content attacking others. Then "Coach Greg" will try and hide behind "Hey im just a truth teller", smh it's such a cop out. Greg can be as rude and as disrespectful as he wants to be towards people for "clicks" and "likes" and then say "Hey dont be mad at me, im just a truth teller". Mikes been pretty damn honest about what hes experienced with steroid use and how much he struggles with the side effects. "Coach Greg" mad Mike didn't buy his cook book for $895😂😂🤡🤡 Oh and this is coming from someone who likes this channel but to take a page out of "Coach Gregs" book: "Dont be mad im just telling the truth"... Like the channel but man Greg is rude af.
"cry bud"
Have you not seen Mike's videos?
Mike dunks on people like he is Coach Greg with PMS.
Everyone should notice after the first video Greg only shows Mike’s front lot spreading back lat spread, because those are his best poses. Because Greg isn’t trying to shame the guy he’s just being honest. His front relaxed, and his back lat spread are amazing.
THERE WILL BE BLOOD…. WORK
Coach was sweating like a champ in this video, that T4 must have been hittin him hard.
more dr mike videos than last time
Coach Greg is the YT fitness king. Manlet Mike had to submit to him.
you keep pretending mike is on extreme amounts of peds when his dosages are equal or less than other aspiring or current pros. please stop lying to your viewers for clicks.
Equal to or less than is perhaps truth. But more than he should because clearly he can't handle it. That's the point that you're missing in all of this. And yes it is extreme. They all are extreme. And that's the bigger point everyone needs to realize.
@@Editor_Steve its not that he couldn't handle it.. it seems more that his e2 was crashed.. so actually if he took more test he would have been better off mentally speaking
@@videolynx4271 Yup, we all know Mike runs low Test broderick chavez style cycles.
@@Editor_Steve If the point is that they are all extreme, then why is Greg acting like Mike is an outlier with what he is using and targeting Mike for minimal total load amounts instead of making videos saying "everyone is using much more than this"?
@videolynx4271 that's a good theory. Crashing e2 isn't good. Which could be from too high femera doses or a whole host of other reasons. The point is, the things he "needs" to do to look his best (which it was and he looked good) is too much of a strain for him and any other person for that matter.
I knew it! Here we are, another coach greg and Mike video!
Clicked faster then last time
Great cookbook video Greg! Your best video in MONTHS
So glad you are calling him out. His video was full of excuses. Took zero accountability for coming in out of shape. The one thing in his control he failed at.
I don’t get why people hate coach Greg so much he is the most honest and transparent fitness TH-camr on the platform, He tells the truth upfront no bs and he is funny
F**king hell. Leave the man alone.
Can these two have a one on one talk it out would be TH-cam gold
how do you even get from 100 to 175 a week, you must either change esters and or frequency or youd administer the weirdest numbers.
Did he do 50 twice a week (tren E 250) and then switched to mondays 100 and fridays. 75? cause he most certainly didnt do 87.5 twice a week. Or did he do 25 every day and started with 100? all possible but seems weird ,from the numbers.
Daily administration is normal.
@@JT-yx7vf yes, if ace, but then how would you do split up 100 ace a week? 16,7 every day? :D
@@Austrian_Oak Daily administration of everything is normal. Everyone is doing daily doses of anything else days because more stable levels of anything is considered better. Why not daily administration of E?
@@JT-yx7vf sure, to how did he do daily E with 100 a week? 16,7mg a day? when 250mg per ml? or did he do twice a week and then change his philosophy to every day? just wondering.
People can talk shit againg gregs but this man knows alot alot a real genius love him
Alright it's getting kinda weird now
Greg on tha warpath! Mike not escaping this!
"When I was natural"
Gets me every time 😅
*gets caught doing a competition.
67 year old former AAS using elite powerlifter from the 80s and 90s here: Doucette speaks the truth. I used for years and years when the shit was still real and domestically produced: Test, Anadrol, Dianabol, Winny, etc. Doses were humongous. I was one crazy, ego-driven, insecure, anger prone motherfucker, but boy could I push big numbers and stand out in any gym. I remember getting an ovation from the pro boys hanging out at the original Golds in Santa Monica after I repped out in the dead with 705 at 220 back in 84. I made Don Ross and his crew shit themselves at his gym in Oakland after doing the same thing in the squat while visiting in 83. Those were still big numbers back in the day. Decades later, I have to admit that it definitely wasn't worth it for both my physical and mental well-being, but nobody could have convinced me otherwise at the time. Doucette has good intentions, but I feel he's wasting his time with most younger viewers. Insecurity, fragile egos, and pharmaceutical quick fixes are hard obstacles for common sense alternatives to overcome.
more yappin and glazin than last time 💀🤣
John Meadows sighting @12:30 😢RIP to a legend. 🙏🏻
I might not agree with greg on all points but I trust him more than any other fitness youtuber
Me too..
Whereas Mike just exposed himself with this competing steroid saga
he swears his training methods are superior despite him not winning his pro card
His genetics are mediocre harder than last time. And if you already have excellent training you haven't got much scope to improve.