Lots of tier 1 operators do over 10 deployments. That shows how good our tier 1 operators are . And its crazy to think around 2004 lots of Navy seals didnt think they could die in combat because they were that good
For tier 1, deployment could mean like a couple weeks operation or less, or maybe more. That's why they have so many. It's definitely not conventional lengths like 9 months to a year..like an infantry unit would do, but their deployments are at a moments notice operations that usually don't last that long. Like hostage rescue for instance... Say some American is captured at a camp somewhere in Africa or wherever... Well the tier 1 guys who go get that done, that would be considered a deployment even if it only takes a couple days... Because it is an deployment, the 6 guys who killed Osama for instance, that whole op is considered a deployment and everybody knows how long that took. They do the hardest and most dangerous sht but it's usually really quick stuff then they're back. So they have to switch on and off frequently. I know it's a little lame to say, but watch that old show "The Unit"... Believe it or not that show isn't totally accurate but it's pretty accurate to their operation tempo and the sort of stuff they do. Stuff that can make international news but you'd never know it's them.
@@Siegefya I believe 24 guys went after osama. If u mean all the men who put a bullet in him than ya. And thats makes sense !! I wouldnt argue against that. Still going on those three-1 week operations to capture a hostage or something teaches our tier 1 operations a shit ton in very little time
@@SiegefyaNot entirely true. They had a 16 month calendar where they'd spend 4 months deployed to a specific AO. Come back for 4, and do refresh training, easing into the next 16 months. That first 4 month window would also get them ready for alert their status. Training hostage rescue stuff specifically. For the Navy it'd be getting ready for the underways, pushing boats from planes, maybe otbs, etc. For the army it'd be airplanes, underground assaults, trains, etc. Then comes the 2nd 4 month window where they are actually on alert. A lot of local training that's really mundane while you get to typically go home every night. Some dudes have spent that entire 4 month alert window in some other shit hole.While other dudes might have blown out 2, 3 or even 4 times (crazy rare) within that same 4 month window. But then some dudes might not have gone anywhere at all. Then the 3rd 4 month window which is typically pre deployment training where they focus on what they can expect to see in their future deployed location. Then the 4th 4 months window is their deployment window. And then the 16 month cycle starts over and you're back in groundhog day. So with in 1x 16 month calendar you can expect to be gone 4 months guaranteed, with a possible of up to another 4 months.
@@harryhog1977 always willing to learn more, thanks for the write up and clearing some things up. Yeah that makes a lot of sense. Especially concerning their training rotations, wasn't aware of that.
I’ve never really publicly talked about this, but about 1:11:00 in is where this dude starts talking about my exact type of injuries (compartment syndrome). Had multiple fasciotomies done on both of my legs but only after it was too late. Had both of my legs amputated above the knees. It’s wild to think that PJ’s would do this type of stuff in the field on target and how much of a difference it can make. Definitely my favorite interview so far.
@@jacemiddleton3053 It nearly killed me multiple times, even in the OR once I was stabilized (flatlined a few times during the first of many emergency fasciotomies). I shouldn’t be alive, but I lucked out, I guess.
@@WheelchairOperator that’s fkn wild man. Well I’m glad you lucked out. There may be days you wish you hadn’t, but it takes a special breed to make it through things like that and share that with others. There’s somebody out there that could use your wisdom as somebody that has already made it through. So kudos to you for being strong willed bro. I almost lost my son, he was in a coma for a while. Had to relearn how to eat, walk, talk, all that jazz. And he’s 9 now. But I just see something special in guys like y’all. Cheers to you bro. Hang in there
My uncle was a PJ back in the late 80’s early 90’s. So, each time I see him I always try to ask as many questions as possible. It’s incredible just how intelligent these guys truly are.
Ambien is no joke, I took it after surgery once with pain killers and woke up naked in my backyard in the morning with no idea how I got there. To be clear, waking up naked in my backyard was not the problem...I mean that happens...but not remembering how I got there was a little concerning.
My Dad told me that while stationed in TX and NM you always knew who the PJ's were because if they were outside they were running. He said it was like clockwork; they would exit the building exit the building, place cover, inspect boots, then start running.
Sending appreciation, love and prayers to everyone one of you guys. Warriors all. What a huge mission you're now on ... the freedom (at least for now!) to be able to talk about your experiences, unload, let us know who you are, what you gave, where it hurts. We're heading into intensity ... here...and globally. We're going to need your courage and knowledge, for what's coming down the pipes.
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A very close friend of mine who was a Ranger in the early 2000s has told me drug stories. Being doped up to stay awake for days at a time, drugs that would make them stronger and for longer, and the drugs to be able to sleep. Years later his body and mind are fried from all of the doping required to get missions done. I knew about some of the drug abuse because I was raised in a JSOC family, but never knew the finer details. Blew my mind to discover what you guys went through and how much pressure was put on SOF in general during the time in the middle east.
Man! Chad is such an awesome human. I was a support guy at the "Mighty 24" STS with Chad. So, glad the studs of the unit are finally getting their stories out.
Mike my Cousin Lance Cummings retired from the teams and has continued to serve after the teams. It would be really cool too see him on your pod cast and channel one day. He also trained a bunch of guy’s in buds as well and is the most humble person I’ve ever met in my life.
Amen….but, be careful what you wish for. Being in spec-ops, in-and-of itself is by NO means a guarantee. Dan Crenshaw, with all due respect to his service, is a perfect example of that. McRaven, and McChrystal are two other examples of guys who were amazing soldiers, but politically are completely disconnected with America. Now that I think of it, Gen. Mattis is another example of that, as well.
So it's the 27th of Dec and I just heard of the passing of Mr Marcinco, SO condolences for your community, the MAN was it ALL, heaven got a real fighter and we're gonna need him!!!
1:31:37 I can’t remember the guys name. He wrote a book about being in Team 6 during Black hawk down. He was doing sniper over watch and talked about a rancid smell that made them almost vomit. Come to find out there was a family next to their safe house. The kid had scurvy and they would go in at night like it was a hostage rescue. And squeeze lemon juice into the kids mouth. Eventually the family even started offering them tea and food. He said they never took their weapons off them because of safety. That story he told of the Somalis and their strength is dead on.
Excellent interview Mike. What a treat to see Chad on the Pod. PLEASE work toward having one of our CCT brothers on the Pod. Keep up the great work brother. I'm hoping the word can get out about CSAR, CCT operational capabilities and the professionalism that comes with SOCOM USAF.
2:21. That mission by Djibouti, I believe you guys took our mission (if it was in 2012). We were geared up, ammo passed out and loaded waiting to board the birds. They snuck SEAL/s in and they took the mission. Haha.
Outstanding interview. What is consistently remarkable is when former Tier 1 guys interview another- everything is told IN CONTEXT, the level of candor is incredible, so humble about constantly learning, no glorification.. and what they understand after 10 years go by is amazing. Hearing about casualties and chronic injuries really drives home that these guys are not superhuman- they are extraordinary humans. There is no much realism to the best trained best armed teams and yet so much is a shit show for unforeseeable reasons and they improvise. Compelling AF.
I’m just completely impressed more and more with Air Force special forces. If I were a young guy again I think I’d have to give their programs a serious look.
Thank you for your service Chad. I live in Raeford by Ft Bragg and I really enjoy these stories from neighbors and friends that I have. Excellent stuff.
Watch the Clark Impastato interview. All he did was laugh. Legit belly rumbling laughs. I still rewatch it often when I too need a good laugh. Great interview.
Yeah and mikes interview with Navy SEAL Chris Osman part 1 and 2. Part 1 Mike laughing his fucking ass off when Chris was describing his childhood with his brother and joining the Marine Corps
Mike can you please make a podcast with a SWCC operator. There the most underrated job in the special operations community. I’ve never seen a podcast with one so It would be nice for you to seek a former SWCC out.
Go check out “Combat Story”. It’s a podcast and TH-cam channel and they had a long interview with a former Marine/SWCC/CIA officer Patrick Moltrup. It’s a great episode. Patrick hosts a channel with a former Marine Raider Jason Lilley, the Jason Lilley from Gen Kill.
I remembered my first CPR RESCUE.As a volunteer firefighters for my community. That day I was learning how to be a dispatcher evening g shift.when we get a call a car accident, then another call, car accident, and yet another call , car accident. Ok two calls involving two cars in then one call involving one rollover one person ejected. I had all units out No back up fire equipment, and another part-time dispatcher. Senior dispatcher came in and took over dispatcher. I looked in the bay area. All I had was the vary old Lawrence pumper that we used in parades one basic kit I got out of my locker and another old back brace board .if we needed to transport it was going to be on top of hoses.and bankets. The part timer knew how to start up the LaFrance and away we went. Evening time light snow and very quiet. We had a handheld radio. The pumper was an open cab unit. I flashed spotlight around.at a turn I seen very faint red car tangled up in barbwire. Called into dispatch. "120 Adam is on scene one rollover car tangled up in barbed wire fence .one person ejected. " Then one of the school districts security guards pulled up as I got the kit and back board. While the part time dispatcher/EMT got to patent. No heartbeat no respiration. I said start CPR. THE EMT started but immediately started to throw up. I looked shocked and jumped into action. I breathed into him pulled away and did chest compression. The security guard set up backboard and we got patent up and strapped down. The EMT did chest compression and I breathed and checked for pulse. The guy was to heavy to move I still stayed on compression CPR.my mind set was basic,"
Man I was in Balad when that crash happened.. I helped with that one and also saluted the bodies as they went home for the last time. That was a ROUGH time.
Great episode! Had to listen a couple times. Started listening last night and fell asleep. Had some weird combat related dreams. 😳... Anyway listened again while awake. Have a great weekend all! ✌️
aswome that he gets to join in the SOF fun, jealous! mind u his training is quite tough as well. talk about "special ammo , tiny grenades n certain groups" get the juices flowin! Love how Mike pushed for a dog story but curious that chad kind of passed....
I was sitting in a classroom at Lackland when an NCO came in and asked if anyone wanted to try out for Pararescue. I had a guaranteed slot as a 431X1 Aircraft Maintenance and I didn't think they would let me out of it. One of the biggest regrets of my life was not raising my hand. I was physically fit enough but probably not mentally tough enough. Great interview.
I can relate to zero success in cpr. I'm a retired NYC firefighter. I must have done cpr over 100 times on people. That's a modest estimate too. Zero success. I think unless you are there when the person goes down and cpr is started immediately there is little chance of survival.
Great episode Mike. Probably my favorite to date. Great seeing thoughts and opinions from someone whose primary job was saving lives instead of the latter. What are the chances of getting some WW2 or Vietnam vets on here? Sadly they are getting fewer and fewer yet carry so many great stories and experiences people could learn from.
i never knew pj's deployed attached to sof units and went on missions. i always thought they were like dialing 911 and only went on scene like a QRF for medical attention. cool.
PJs do a lot of cool stuff nobody hears about. PJs aren’t the “1 man” but are normally included on the team on some of the most famous missions out there. From Bin Laden to rescuing Marcus Lutrell. Also, alert for NASA to recover astronauts, presidential protection, and even led the Thai cave rescue.
1:46:11 bro wtf that shit is genuinely disturbing. How tf could you think that is a good environment or good leadership thing to have. That same mentality is what caused those seals to kill the green beret in africa. That is physical abuse and sometimes teetering on sexual abuse especially for the green beret incident. The seal community needs to eradicate that mindset from their leadership because I feel like they are the ones lagging behind the other sof in terms of addressing the problem of that “ruffin up” type of discipline. It has nothing to do with making someone or a unit a better fighting force.
About an hour out from finishing . . . amazing episode. Was hoping for some CAG stories with comparison to Navy counterpart. Thumbs up and subscribing.
I think Shelf of U-2 Is 90k, Officially, their cruise area is usually 60-70. I'm close but not certain, 10 year Toolmaker for One of the Top 3. I'm your guys age so I didn't work that program.
Mike- I was really hoping you guys would talk about John Chapman. I’d be really curious to hear opinions from both sides (USAF & Navy). From the drone footage, it’s obvious that he was on a different page than the rest of the team and there’s the speculation that he was (knowingly) left behind while still alive. Personally, it appeared like he felt that he had something to prove and was maybe a little more ‘gung-ho’ than he should’ve been when the team leader was trying to catch up with him. I can’t imagine that the CC should’ve been the point-man on that op, but nonetheless you can’t deny his bravery and will. I do believe he was instrumental to saving lives of the incoming SEAL team with his suppressive fire, hours after he was immobilized and assumed dead. I’d love to hear your thoughts.
There was a shit ton of politics around this. The Navy didn't want to admit that they left a guy behind. Which is another reason why they didn't put Chapman in for the MoH to begin with. So there is also some scuttle bug that that was the narrative (Chapman was a Cowboy) the Navy Leadership pushed out (not publicly) that caught wind and spread like fire to diminish Chapman submission. So it wasn't until the AF went to the Navy to let them know that they were going to resubmit the Chapman for the MoH, not to seek support but more as a courtesy. So that's why the Navy rushed the MoH for the TL to get it a month or two before Chapman. Basically Flag Pole drama for the dudes that rides desks in the later part of their careers. There was no Officer on the ground, just a Chief Petty Officer who was essentially the Commander (or in this case a Team Leader). Team Leaders at that level typically do lead from the front or are #2, or wherever they want to be to best employ their team. After talking to a lot of dudes that conducted the investigation and were at near by Observation Posts in line of sight of comms; apparently it was beyond chaotic when they got off the bird and the first few minutes were just soent figuring out what was going on; who was injured and where, where was the enemy at exactly, where to move, etc. Many believe he was following training SOPs (Ranger Handbook). They essentially found themselves in a near ambush situation fighting uphill in a couple feet of snow. So the only thing they could do was gain fire superiority, fight through the ambush, win the fight and reassess the situation. The only thing I know is the only bad decision is no decision at all.
As always, another pipe hitter! Cool guy for sure, awesome interview! Thanks for your service, mike keep it up, one of my favorite shows, love mikes joke they fuckin crack me up!
I've done allot of red force training with SOF and DIA. There is still accountability when you fuck up because it's a privilege to be there. In the regular line units, there is NO accountability.
Great podcast, really enjoyed this. Spot on about AF leadership, it’s all too heavy and NCOs are expected to capitulate to the officers demands/mindsets.
Mike, can you include photos like Shawn Ryan (vigilance elite). I know you run some other things and are busy, and it would take a little bit of extra time, but it would make the videos better.
Great episode. Dude seems humble. Interesting story about that failure to eject in his 416. Some talk these days about how the foward assist maybe causes more problems than it solves. He sounded like he thought the foward assist helped jam the round in there harder but he also had already tried clearing it at least once so I wonder if he would have been able to get it out with the rod even if he hadn't hit the foward assist?
17 deployments at Tier 1 is absolutely wild. Speaks to his abilities and the caliber of men he served with.
Lots of tier 1 operators do over 10 deployments. That shows how good our tier 1 operators are . And its crazy to think around 2004 lots of Navy seals didnt think they could die in combat because they were that good
For tier 1, deployment could mean like a couple weeks operation or less, or maybe more. That's why they have so many. It's definitely not conventional lengths like 9 months to a year..like an infantry unit would do, but their deployments are at a moments notice operations that usually don't last that long. Like hostage rescue for instance... Say some American is captured at a camp somewhere in Africa or wherever... Well the tier 1 guys who go get that done, that would be considered a deployment even if it only takes a couple days... Because it is an deployment, the 6 guys who killed Osama for instance, that whole op is considered a deployment and everybody knows how long that took. They do the hardest and most dangerous sht but it's usually really quick stuff then they're back. So they have to switch on and off frequently. I know it's a little lame to say, but watch that old show "The Unit"... Believe it or not that show isn't totally accurate but it's pretty accurate to their operation tempo and the sort of stuff they do. Stuff that can make international news but you'd never know it's them.
@@Siegefya I believe 24 guys went after osama. If u mean all the men who put a bullet in him than ya. And thats makes sense !! I wouldnt argue against that. Still going on those three-1 week operations to capture a hostage or something teaches our tier 1 operations a shit ton in very little time
@@SiegefyaNot entirely true. They had a 16 month calendar where they'd spend 4 months deployed to a specific AO. Come back for 4, and do refresh training, easing into the next 16 months. That first 4 month window would also get them ready for alert their status. Training hostage rescue stuff specifically. For the Navy it'd be getting ready for the underways, pushing boats from planes, maybe otbs, etc. For the army it'd be airplanes, underground assaults, trains, etc. Then comes the 2nd 4 month window where they are actually on alert. A lot of local training that's really mundane while you get to typically go home every night. Some dudes have spent that entire 4 month alert window in some other shit hole.While other dudes might have blown out 2, 3 or even 4 times (crazy rare) within that same 4 month window. But then some dudes might not have gone anywhere at all. Then the 3rd 4 month window which is typically pre deployment training where they focus on what they can expect to see in their future deployed location. Then the 4th 4 months window is their deployment window. And then the 16 month cycle starts over and you're back in groundhog day. So with in 1x 16 month calendar you can expect to be gone 4 months guaranteed, with a possible of up to another 4 months.
@@harryhog1977 always willing to learn more, thanks for the write up and clearing some things up. Yeah that makes a lot of sense. Especially concerning their training rotations, wasn't aware of that.
I’ve never really publicly talked about this, but about 1:11:00 in is where this dude starts talking about my exact type of injuries (compartment syndrome). Had multiple fasciotomies done on both of my legs but only after it was too late. Had both of my legs amputated above the knees. It’s wild to think that PJ’s would do this type of stuff in the field on target and how much of a difference it can make. Definitely my favorite interview so far.
The guys that go through 18D school often go on to become PA’s and doctors in the civ side.
My best friend had that, I’d never heard of it before and had no idea it was so dangerous and lethal.
@@jacemiddleton3053 It nearly killed me multiple times, even in the OR once I was stabilized (flatlined a few times during the first of many emergency fasciotomies). I shouldn’t be alive, but I lucked out, I guess.
@@WheelchairOperator that’s fkn wild man. Well I’m glad you lucked out. There may be days you wish you hadn’t, but it takes a special breed to make it through things like that and share that with others. There’s somebody out there that could use your wisdom as somebody that has already made it through. So kudos to you for being strong willed bro. I almost lost my son, he was in a coma for a while. Had to relearn how to eat, walk, talk, all that jazz. And he’s 9 now. But I just see something special in guys like y’all. Cheers to you bro. Hang in there
I near lost my left arm from compartment syndrome. An emergency fasciotomy saved it
My uncle was a PJ back in the late 80’s early 90’s. So, each time I see him I always try to ask as many questions as possible. It’s incredible just how intelligent these guys truly are.
Well it’s the Air Force
Extraordinary guy!
PJ’s are among the best of the best.
Thanks for giving us these videos, Mike.
This one goes down as at least top 3 for me, Probably my favorite. So cool to hear from a guy attached to multiple Tier 1 groups. What a cool dude.
Ambien is no joke, I took it after surgery once with pain killers and woke up naked in my backyard in the morning with no idea how I got there. To be clear, waking up naked in my backyard was not the problem...I mean that happens...but not remembering how I got there was a little concerning.
Air Force Special Tactics Guys are Bad Ass Professionals!!
My Dad told me that while stationed in TX and NM you always knew who the PJ's were because if they were outside they were running. He said it was like clockwork; they would exit the building exit the building, place cover, inspect boots, then start running.
This is as good as a podcast can get. God bless.
Sending appreciation, love and prayers to everyone one of you guys. Warriors all. What a huge mission you're now on ... the freedom (at least for now!) to be able to talk about your experiences, unload, let us know who you are, what you gave, where it hurts. We're heading into intensity ... here...and globally. We're going to need your courage and knowledge, for what's coming down the pipes.
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A very close friend of mine who was a Ranger in the early 2000s has told me drug stories. Being doped up to stay awake for days at a time, drugs that would make them stronger and for longer, and the drugs to be able to sleep. Years later his body and mind are fried from all of the doping required to get missions done. I knew about some of the drug abuse because I was raised in a JSOC family, but never knew the finer details. Blew my mind to discover what you guys went through and how much pressure was put on SOF in general during the time in the middle east.
Air Force PJ'S & CCT's are 100% bad ass .
One of the best interviews I’ve watched yet, humble, quiet, & extremely modest professional!!
Man! Chad is such an awesome human. I was a support guy at the "Mighty 24" STS with Chad. So, glad the studs of the unit are finally getting their stories out.
thank you gentlemen for this.
Mike my Cousin Lance Cummings retired from the teams and has continued to serve after the teams. It would be really cool too see him on your pod cast and channel one day. He also trained a bunch of guy’s in buds as well and is the most humble person I’ve ever met in my life.
2:33- This is the exact reason more and more vets need to run for office. Maybe special operators in particular
Amen….but, be careful what you wish for. Being in spec-ops, in-and-of itself is by NO means a guarantee. Dan Crenshaw, with all due respect to his service, is a perfect example of that. McRaven, and McChrystal are two other examples of guys who were amazing soldiers, but politically are completely disconnected with America. Now that I think of it, Gen. Mattis is another example of that, as well.
lol your comment is a joke. Those men are absolutely in touch with Americans. They’re just not on the same wavelength as trumptards.
So it's the 27th of Dec and I just heard of the passing of Mr Marcinco, SO condolences for your community, the MAN was it ALL, heaven got a real fighter and we're gonna need him!!!
1:31:37 I can’t remember the guys name. He wrote a book about being in Team 6 during Black hawk down. He was doing sniper over watch and talked about a rancid smell that made them almost vomit. Come to find out there was a family next to their safe house. The kid had scurvy and they would go in at night like it was a hostage rescue. And squeeze lemon juice into the kids mouth. Eventually the family even started offering them tea and food. He said they never took their weapons off them because of safety. That story he told of the Somalis and their strength is dead on.
Great guest as always. Impressive dude, humble and awesome.
Excellent interview Mike. What a treat to see Chad on the Pod. PLEASE work toward having one of our CCT brothers on the Pod. Keep up the great work brother. I'm hoping the word can get out about CSAR, CCT operational capabilities and the professionalism that comes with SOCOM USAF.
2:21. That mission by Djibouti, I believe you guys took our mission (if it was in 2012). We were geared up, ammo passed out and loaded waiting to board the birds. They snuck SEAL/s in and they took the mission. Haha.
Most laid-back Tier 1 guy I've ever heard
Outstanding interview. What is consistently remarkable is when former Tier 1 guys interview another- everything is told IN CONTEXT, the level of candor is incredible, so humble about constantly learning, no glorification.. and what they understand after 10 years go by is amazing. Hearing about casualties and chronic injuries really drives home that these guys are not superhuman- they are extraordinary humans. There is no much realism to the best trained best armed teams and yet so much is a shit show for unforeseeable reasons and they improvise. Compelling AF.
Labeling day in the brewery. Had you guys on the whole time. Great podcast! Thanks and cheers from across the pond! 🍻
Soft spoken and carries a big stick!!
I enjoyed this podcast as much or more than any other one. As usual, two great men having a great conversation.
Chad is a certified legend!
Another great one Mike, thankyou for all you do!
Another awesome episode Mike keep them coming. Have a pew-tastic holiday with your family and friends
Thank you both for your service.
I’m just completely impressed more and more with Air Force special forces. If I were a young guy again I think I’d have to give their programs a serious look.
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Thank you for your service Chad. I live in Raeford by Ft Bragg and I really enjoy these stories from neighbors and friends that I have. Excellent stuff.
I've never heard Mike laugh so much in any interview. Great podcast, lighter than most others but really interesting!
Watch the Clark Impastato interview. All he did was laugh. Legit belly rumbling laughs. I still rewatch it often when I too need a good laugh. Great interview.
Yeah and mikes interview with Navy SEAL Chris Osman part 1 and 2. Part 1 Mike laughing his fucking ass off when Chris was describing his childhood with his brother and joining the Marine Corps
We loved our 24th STS guys. They always added value.
Thanks for an amazing interview. Much respect as ever.
Mike excellent podcast it was good to see PJ telling his story I’m former Air Force crew chief maintenance
Mike’s take on accountability is absolutely spot on….
Keep up the great work guy’s!!
Mike can you please make a podcast with a SWCC operator. There the most underrated job in the special operations community. I’ve never seen a podcast with one so It would be nice for you to seek a former SWCC out.
Go check out “Combat Story”. It’s a podcast and TH-cam channel and they had a long interview with a former Marine/SWCC/CIA officer Patrick Moltrup. It’s a great episode. Patrick hosts a channel with a former Marine Raider Jason Lilley, the Jason Lilley from Gen Kill.
Dash Duong Wong.15 years as SWCC, 9 years in Dev Group.
They’re *
Agreed, I've always wondered what was up with those badasses!!!
Speaking of other Occupations, GarandThumb was a SERE Instructor, correct? I think he would be an interesting Interview.
If your name is Chad McCoy you have to join SpecOps, I'm pretty sure it's a legal requirement.
Great video brothers. Excellent content, great respect to you both. A very interesting look at the Air Force side of big skills. Many thanks.
16:02 McCoy: You're putting me on the spot here
Mike: *'WELCOME TO MIKE DROP'*
😂 Epic !
Great podcast! I'm glad you could get him to say what little he did, I would like to hear more from the guy. Also let's hear your stories Mike!
Best show yet.
I remembered my first CPR RESCUE.As a volunteer firefighters for my community. That day I was learning how to be a dispatcher evening g shift.when we get a call a car accident, then another call, car accident, and yet another call , car accident. Ok two calls involving two cars in then one call involving one rollover one person ejected. I had all units out No back up fire equipment, and another part-time dispatcher. Senior dispatcher came in and took over dispatcher. I looked in the bay area. All I had was the vary old Lawrence pumper that we used in parades one basic kit I got out of my locker and another old back brace board .if we needed to transport it was going to be on top of hoses.and bankets. The part timer knew how to start up the LaFrance and away we went. Evening time light snow and very quiet. We had a handheld radio. The pumper was an open cab unit. I flashed spotlight around.at a turn I seen very faint red car tangled up in barbwire. Called into dispatch. "120 Adam is on scene one rollover car tangled up in barbed wire fence .one person ejected. "
Then one of the school districts security guards pulled up as I got the kit and back board. While the part time dispatcher/EMT got to patent. No heartbeat no respiration. I said start CPR. THE EMT started but immediately started to throw up. I looked shocked and jumped into action. I breathed into him pulled away and did chest compression. The security guard set up backboard and we got patent up and strapped down. The EMT did chest compression and I breathed and checked for pulse. The guy was to heavy to move I still stayed on compression CPR.my mind set was basic,"
Well done. Did all u could, most would have found a hundred excuses to not go out. Did he survive? Either way, cheers!
Pertdermdispatsher
Man I was in Balad when that crash happened.. I helped with that one and also saluted the bodies as they went home for the last time. That was a ROUGH time.
Chad the real Mccoy
41:50 ish has to be the best water bottle placement on the internet!
Great interview, thank you!
Great episode! Had to listen a couple times. Started listening last night and fell asleep. Had some weird combat related dreams. 😳... Anyway listened again while awake. Have a great weekend all! ✌️
That was a great interview, again 👍🏼 Very interesting storys 🎗🇺🇲🐕🦺🐾Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪🎗
aswome that he gets to join in the SOF fun, jealous! mind u his training is quite tough as well. talk about "special ammo , tiny grenades n certain groups" get the juices flowin! Love how Mike pushed for a dog story but curious that chad kind of passed....
I was sitting in a classroom at Lackland when an NCO came in and asked if anyone wanted to try out for Pararescue. I had a guaranteed slot as a 431X1 Aircraft Maintenance and I didn't think they would let me out of it. One of the biggest regrets of my life was not raising my hand. I was physically fit enough but probably not mentally tough enough. Great interview.
This was great. Excellent info
Thank you both for sharing.
Love the green tip ammo conversation at 1.23.31 super nerdy but very helpful. Thank you.
1:22:31
I think this just popped up to my FAV interview. Not as raw as some, but interesting and a non stop listen! Rock on AF!
Here for the CHAD energy
Fascinating interview. Don't hear from 24th/RRC guys often.
I can relate to zero success in cpr. I'm a retired NYC firefighter. I must have done cpr over 100 times on people. That's a modest estimate too. Zero success. I think unless you are there when the person goes down and cpr is started immediately there is little chance of survival.
The story of SEAL climbing a ladder on target, stray dog latching onto him, and him trying to pop it point blank is funny sht.
Can’t wait
Good Cast Mike. You do a great Job.
I know what I will be listening to as I drive across Ohio for work tomorrow!
As you should
For real. I drive all day long for work, nothing makes a 300 mile drive as short as listening to these podcasts
I'm working in ohio listening!
I live and work in Ohio
it's better to watch
Great episode Mike. Probably my favorite to date. Great seeing thoughts and opinions from someone whose primary job was saving lives instead of the latter. What are the chances of getting some WW2 or Vietnam vets on here? Sadly they are getting fewer and fewer yet carry so many great stories and experiences people could learn from.
Awesome job Mike ! Great guest. Love the Tier 1 interviews
Kelly across the tracks!
I remember Kelly across the tracks.
Congrats PJs
Yall were bad asses
Halfway in and it’s great. You and Sean are really setting scene mate.
Great episode
War should be the last recourse, as you say, Mike. And our response should be just, overwhelming, and if needed be fight as in Deuteronomy 2:33-35.
What are the main issues with joining right now ? Since you wouldn't encourage joining?
Loved this one. Good the see a fellow USAF guy. I know. I know. Don’t come kick my ass for being in the chair force
Love the H.E.A.T reference :)
i never knew pj's deployed attached to sof units and went on missions. i always thought they were like dialing 911 and only went on scene like a QRF for medical attention. cool.
PJs do a lot of cool stuff nobody hears about. PJs aren’t the “1 man” but are normally included on the team on some of the most famous missions out there. From Bin Laden to rescuing Marcus Lutrell. Also, alert for NASA to recover astronauts, presidential protection, and even led the Thai cave rescue.
Man. This interview is pretty awesome 👏🏻
1:46:11 bro wtf that shit is genuinely disturbing. How tf could you think that is a good environment or good leadership thing to have. That same mentality is what caused those seals to kill the green beret in africa. That is physical abuse and sometimes teetering on sexual abuse especially for the green beret incident. The seal community needs to eradicate that mindset from their leadership because I feel like they are the ones lagging behind the other sof in terms of addressing the problem of that “ruffin up” type of discipline. It has nothing to do with making someone or a unit a better fighting force.
Really wish we could have heard some bite stories......Mike tried his best!
Another great episode!!
Jonas Kelsall and Rob Reeves were life long friends. They went to the same high school in Shreveport, Louisiana.
You guys s should bring fake seals for n your podcast and interview them troll them by asking them tough questions
These dudes are fucking heros in my eyes! Really look up to them and what they learned in trauma medicine..crazy stories wow
Thank you Gentlemen, shared.
About an hour out from finishing . . . amazing episode. Was hoping for some CAG stories with comparison to Navy counterpart. Thumbs up and subscribing.
Thanks for the update!
I think Shelf of U-2 Is 90k, Officially, their cruise area is usually 60-70. I'm close but not certain, 10 year Toolmaker for One of the Top 3. I'm your guys age so I didn't work that program.
Outstanding
Another great one
Get a SWCC guy on Mike! Keep it comin we love the show
Mike- I was really hoping you guys would talk about John Chapman. I’d be really curious to hear opinions from both sides (USAF & Navy). From the drone footage, it’s obvious that he was on a different page than the rest of the team and there’s the speculation that he was (knowingly) left behind while still alive. Personally, it appeared like he felt that he had something to prove and was maybe a little more ‘gung-ho’ than he should’ve been when the team leader was trying to catch up with him. I can’t imagine that the CC should’ve been the point-man on that op, but nonetheless you can’t deny his bravery and will. I do believe he was instrumental to saving lives of the incoming SEAL team with his suppressive fire, hours after he was immobilized and assumed dead. I’d love to hear your thoughts.
There was a shit ton of politics around this. The Navy didn't want to admit that they left a guy behind. Which is another reason why they didn't put Chapman in for the MoH to begin with. So there is also some scuttle bug that that was the narrative (Chapman was a Cowboy) the Navy Leadership pushed out (not publicly) that caught wind and spread like fire to diminish Chapman submission. So it wasn't until the AF went to the Navy to let them know that they were going to resubmit the Chapman for the MoH, not to seek support but more as a courtesy. So that's why the Navy rushed the MoH for the TL to get it a month or two before Chapman. Basically Flag Pole drama for the dudes that rides desks in the later part of their careers.
There was no Officer on the ground, just a Chief Petty Officer who was essentially the Commander (or in this case a Team Leader). Team Leaders at that level typically do lead from the front or are #2, or wherever they want to be to best employ their team. After talking to a lot of dudes that conducted the investigation and were at near by Observation Posts in line of sight of comms; apparently it was beyond chaotic when they got off the bird and the first few minutes were just soent figuring out what was going on; who was injured and where, where was the enemy at exactly, where to move, etc. Many believe he was following training SOPs (Ranger Handbook). They essentially found themselves in a near ambush situation fighting uphill in a couple feet of snow. So the only thing they could do was gain fire superiority, fight through the ambush, win the fight and reassess the situation. The only thing I know is the only bad decision is no decision at all.
Another damn good episode
As always, another pipe hitter! Cool guy for sure, awesome interview! Thanks for your service, mike keep it up, one of my favorite shows, love mikes joke they fuckin crack me up!
I've done allot of red force training with SOF and DIA. There is still accountability when you fuck up because it's a privilege to be there. In the regular line units, there is NO accountability.
Great podcast, really enjoyed this. Spot on about AF leadership, it’s all too heavy and NCOs are expected to capitulate to the officers demands/mindsets.
Great dude...humble professional
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Very interesting episode.
Great balance between background, career pathway, ops stories and politics.
I love your products but also enjoy seeing your mannerisms --just slide them down the desk a little😉
Mike, can you include photos like Shawn Ryan (vigilance elite). I know you run some other things and are busy, and it would take a little bit of extra time, but it would make the videos better.
thanks.
Blood transfusion in an African hospital is like gas station sushi 😂😂😂. Love your podcast, Mike.
Great episode. Dude seems humble.
Interesting story about that failure to eject in his 416. Some talk these days about how the foward assist maybe causes more problems than it solves. He sounded like he thought the foward assist helped jam the round in there harder but he also had already tried clearing it at least once so I wonder if he would have been able to get it out with the rod even if he hadn't hit the foward assist?