Admiral Jon: Deploy the squadrons! Fly them through that debris field and then nuke any survivors! Everyone: Sir? Admiral Jon: YOU HEARD ME! NO SURVIVORS!
The term is 'Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory' In Jon's defence I was assuming the mission was going to work the same way and was about to tell him off for being too greedy.
Things Jon didn't see thanks to his -1 per:asteroid fields do damage and slow any squadrons inside them, that was why his units kept loosing health when flying through them.Squadrons take the most direct path point a to b, this is not usually the best or most accurate (see the flying through asteroids) so you need to micro the flight paths.From the looks of it squads will only engage units directly next to them except for the cruisers. These seem to need to be stationary to fire their ranged weapons (why his unit did not return fire on the cruiser attacking it).His critical systems hero was stunned. Had he spent the 2 focus on healing hm, he would have handled the fire instead of needing to manually put it out.
Halfway through the video, I wonder when/if Jon will realize that he killed his entire fleet. Remember "asteroid fields" from FTL Jon? They´re a thing. :)
I like the combat of this game Edit: So I played the Demo and I had two bugs in my run, one which made it so I couldn't move my fighters and other squadrons, and the second one which allowed me to just continuously shoot my main gun and it broke the game completely.
Jon, have you ever heard of a game called pulsar: lost colony? It's more like bridge crew then ftl-ish, but you're got the whole ship to roam around in, and planets as well.....it's also co op
The enemy fleet was the one thing that took the fun out of FTL for me. But this game and another named Abandon Ship almost has in some ways has everything that FTL should have had and even been. I will keep an eye on this and the other.
As soon as he got the nuke, I thought "He's going to nuke himself", and OF COURSE HE DID. (One successful attempt, one failed because they bombarded him first.)
I JUST SPENT ALL MY SCRAP REPAIRING SQUADRONS, I BETTER SEND MY HALF HEALTH CRUISERS DIRECTLY INTO HIS HALF HEALTH DRONES AND LINE OF FIRE The amount of facepalms you give me is unreal, Jon
I think the combat would be drastically better if they gave you control of what your ships do and give them abilities. Kinda like into the breach. It would also be cool if the ships were just hulls a pens you could give them upgrades, custom weapons, modules and maybe even a cool paint job. Imagine ftl but you are the mothership controlling a small fleet of the player controlled ships from ftl. I think that would be awesome
The moment the combat screen popped up I wondered how long it'd be till Jon realized they did tons of damage to anything in them. The answer should not surprise you.
You're scooping fuel out of starts?!? Did you learn nothing from Dr. Who?!?!? "You are very useful Mr. Scientist, thank-you so much for all your help." Finally!!!
FTL meets the "Lost Fleet" series. Not really seeing the Foundation books here, but then I always felt "Second Foundation" was a mess of a story that got off track so as long as it's not as boring and Gary Stu'ed a story as Lost Fleet I'm tentatively on board.
No, as its only a single ship, and no fighters in the "lost Fleet" series. There are only escorts in the Lost Fleet series. If your talking about the story rather than the combat, than that is not similar either. Although waking up after 20 years of being dead is somewhat similar...... It still looks AWESOME though
Foundation, wow, what a great bunch of books, and oh my god, when you get to the part of the novels, where the bloody Mule shows up. The absolute fuck!
Normally I dislike turn-based games, but this is great. Post-apocalyotic Battleship in space. Nice visuals, interesting lore. If you want an interesting and fun game, do give this one a shot.
*Okay first, a foreword! I didn't intend for this to be such a massive text wall, but I decided I'd throw a couple of suggestions and ideas out there in hopes that my thoughts are similar to yours, based on what little I've seen of this game so far anyway. Thanks~* I don't like how the grid map and squadrons seem to work currently. It looks like the developer has put way too much importance and dependence on the squadrons themselves and the amount of ship damage they can do, while not focusing at all on map layout, hazards, and especially movement of said squadrons. It's WAY too punishing that simply issuing a movement command to a squadron costs an entire focus point. They should instead make it so that issuing a movement command doesn't consume focus until either the squadron reaches its location and starts opening fire, or is intercepted by an enemy squadron, this would allow you to much more reliably chase and intercept enemy squadrons, and dodge incoming fire without punishing you this extremely. Additionally they need to work a lot on different squadron commands and how squadron AI interact with each other. Most of the time when you try to intercept or take a defensive position next to your ship, enemy squadrons will just buzz by like bees and completely ignore you while making you waste a LOT of focus points. There needs to be some kind of defend command, where you can make a squadron defend a larger area and automatically intercept and force engagement whenever an enemy squadron enters it. Imagine it like this: in warfare the best defense is ALWAYS a good offense. There's a reason that's a popular adage. Gameplay-wise, you could for example have the option to dedicate a permanent focus point to a squadron so they can set up a defensive position, which will give them an advantage if the enemy decides to attack it directly. In a 1v1 of the same type, the defense will always win so you need to be more tactical about your attack instead of rushing in with as much as you can as fast as you can. It would make for very exciting tactical gameplay, especially if they work on fleshing out their squadron AI too. Lastly, you should be able to paint a path for your squadrons. It is, again, extremely punishing that you're forced to push a squadron through a thick pocket of asteroids, slowing them down and forcing them to take damage, just because they follow a straight line to their destination and you can't afford to waste the 4 focus points it would take to maneuver them around click by click. EDIT: I sound really harsh saying all that. I didn't make it clear that this is an INSANELY fucking promising game, and just this demo looks incredibly fun. I hope you can get some words in with the developers and help them with good feedback. I would love to see gameplay of a fleshed out version of this, or play it myself even.
When reading through the comments, There are two types : Ones complaining about the lack of perception (fly fighters into asteroids) And others saying how nice the game looks/how they like it/comparing to other books and games.
Imagine being so incompetent at games you fail to even notice your ships smashing into asteroids and continually repeat the process without a fucking clue as to what is happening.
To be fair, that one is really on the game. For the most part anyway, 2/3 to be exact. I can understand drones being doo dumb to live when in comes to maneuvers(although it _is_ far future, surely rudimentary combat AI could've been made good enough to not kill itself), but why the absolute fuck would frigates and fighters interpret "get to this spot" as "literally ram through the asteroid fields like the madmen you are"?
i dont understand that for a person that play's so manny games, you could not see that the life bar of the planes will drop when they move on astroid hexes...
Joseph Harrietha They must have missed the guy's username at the beginning of your reply. It happens. It's why I actually didn't mind the short lived Google + integration TH-cam tried, it was easier to see who was replying to who when there was a '+' in front of their name. But to respond to you're initial comment, I wouldn't call Jon an asshole, there are a million games out there & he is always putting out content. I was just disappointed after he said that he actually enjoyed The Witcher 1 & was going to continue the series, but never did.
Jon this was painful to watch. Honestly, it wasn't even enjoyable at this point, it wasn't even a perception problem, it was a bad decision problem where you kept doing things you knew were bad ideas. You talk about how its rock paper scissors with fighters/drones/etc. and yet completely seem to forget and repeatedly send your fighters to die. It just hurts watching to the point where I had to turn off the video and finish it later.
You are running Windows 10.0.0 exactly??? You have held off the mandatory update for this long?! That can't be right unless you are running LTSB version of Windows which is pretty much only able to be obtained illegally...
Or maybe because like so many others Jon has the problem where windows 10 refuses to actually install updates and thus crashes whenever he attempts to, no seriously this is an actual thing that loads of people are struggling with.
uh... you know you can't actually withdraw updates for that long without having some form of cracked version, right? As long as you are connected to the internet, even intermittently, update is not optional...
Sure I can withdraw updates for that long when they keep crashing during the update process and you then have to roll back to the previous version, I should know seeing as I've been unable to actually update since fall last year due to it getting to roughly 70% and then crashing, every single time, hell even the windows update helper that forcibly installs itself does nothing too shockingly help and I'm not the only one with this problem, it's also optional when it gives you the handy-dandy option of either "Wait an Hour" "OK" or "Restart Now" or my personal favourite "Pick a Time"
Jon would enter a pyramid scheme if they told him "something something something like FTL"
Thomas Richter Jon would join a cult if the said "Something Something Something FTL."
Jon would drink the KoolAid if it was labeled "Something Something FTL"
Jon? I am good friends with a Nigerian Prince who is like FTL who is interested in your banking details...
Jon would sell his soul for FTL with hexes
Ahh that good old 1 Perception, not noticing that moving through asteroids damages your ships...wonderful!
John's just like "asteroids, I didn't know that was a thing in this game."
It was truly infuriating to see him suicide his ships into them.
*-1 perception
I was looking for this!!
We all have a dump stat.
Admiral Jon: Deploy the squadrons! Fly them through that debris field and then nuke any survivors!
Everyone: Sir?
Admiral Jon: YOU HEARD ME! NO SURVIVORS!
Xenotric I think someone needs to check the seals on Evil Jon's container. He might be influencing the real Jon.
I suspect jon just decided to dump his perception stat some more this game
Withdrawing in the face of overwhelming success, a classical military tradition.
The term is 'Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory'
In Jon's defence I was assuming the mission was going to work the same way and was about to tell him off for being too greedy.
Can’t wait for the sequel, Smiling Moons
SurferOfTheWeb and the third installment, Grimacing Asteroids
suborbitalprocess are we forgetting Angry Nebulas?
SurferOfTheWeb I thought that was a spinoff, along with Smug Pulsars
suborbitalprocess nah, but the dlc is miffed supergiants
Eh, I thought that was a bit lackluster, it basically amounted to horse armor. Dumbfounded Black Holes, OTOH, now THAT was a good expansion
Things Jon didn't see thanks to his -1 per:asteroid fields do damage and slow any squadrons inside them, that was why his units kept loosing health when flying through them.Squadrons take the most direct path point a to b, this is not usually the best or most accurate (see the flying through asteroids) so you need to micro the flight paths.From the looks of it squads will only engage units directly next to them except for the cruisers. These seem to need to be stationary to fire their ranged weapons (why his unit did not return fire on the cruiser attacking it).His critical systems hero was stunned. Had he spent the 2 focus on healing hm, he would have handled the fire instead of needing to manually put it out.
Halfway through the video, I wonder when/if Jon will realize that he killed his entire fleet. Remember "asteroid fields" from FTL Jon? They´re a thing. :)
I like the combat of this game
Edit: So I played the Demo and I had two bugs in my run, one which made it so I couldn't move my fighters and other squadrons, and the second one which allowed me to just continuously shoot my main gun and it broke the game completely.
Jon, have you ever heard of a game called pulsar: lost colony? It's more like bridge crew then ftl-ish, but you're got the whole ship to roam around in, and planets as well.....it's also co op
That game is unfinished. I've owned it for years and it really hasn't gotten too much further.
Boy does this look fun! Thanks for showing it off.
The enemy fleet was the one thing that took the fun out of FTL for me. But this game and another named Abandon Ship almost has in some ways has everything that FTL should have had and even been. I will keep an eye on this and the other.
Pixelart Battlestar Galactica?
I'm in.
As soon as he got the nuke, I thought "He's going to nuke himself", and OF COURSE HE DID. (One successful attempt, one failed because they bombarded him first.)
I JUST SPENT ALL MY SCRAP REPAIRING SQUADRONS, I BETTER SEND MY HALF HEALTH CRUISERS DIRECTLY INTO HIS HALF HEALTH DRONES AND LINE OF FIRE
The amount of facepalms you give me is unreal, Jon
Fighting a loose battle vs a fire instead of repairing the hero who can help fight the fire.
The soundtrack seems pretty nostalgic but I can't put my finger on it as to why that is.
Do you think Jon noticed that going through the meteor field did damage to his ships?
That would be a no, he came close at one point though.
I think the combat would be drastically better if they gave you control of what your ships do and give them abilities. Kinda like into the breach. It would also be cool if the ships were just hulls a pens you could give them upgrades, custom weapons, modules and maybe even a cool paint job. Imagine ftl but you are the mothership controlling a small fleet of the player controlled ships from ftl. I think that would be awesome
Oh this looks awesome.
Maybe don't fly your squadrons into rocks every time.
Combat with asteroids and Perception -1 made this really hard to watch, lol.
I'm in dire need of games like FTL.
The moment the combat screen popped up I wondered how long it'd be till Jon realized they did tons of damage to anything in them. The answer should not surprise you.
Didn't you see that moving through asteroids damages ships like crazy, Mr. Perception???
FOUNDATION NOVELS?!?! SOLD! Man those novels are still my favorite Sci Fi novels from isaac Asimov!
You're scooping fuel out of starts?!? Did you learn nothing from Dr. Who?!?!?
"You are very useful Mr. Scientist, thank-you so much for all your help." Finally!!!
Cool. I loved FTL so I'll check this out.
So it’s FTL but Star Trek?
FTL meets the "Lost Fleet" series. Not really seeing the Foundation books here, but then I always felt "Second Foundation" was a mess of a story that got off track so as long as it's not as boring and Gary Stu'ed a story as Lost Fleet I'm tentatively on board.
No, as its only a single ship, and no fighters in the "lost Fleet" series. There are only escorts in the Lost Fleet series. If your talking about the story rather than the combat, than that is not similar either. Although waking up after 20 years of being dead is somewhat similar......
It still looks AWESOME though
Foundation, wow, what a great bunch of books, and oh my god, when you get to the part of the novels, where the bloody Mule shows up. The absolute fuck!
This game looks rather fantastic
Normally I dislike turn-based games, but this is great. Post-apocalyotic Battleship in space. Nice visuals, interesting lore. If you want an interesting and fun game, do give this one a shot.
so this is what is sounds like when the suns cry
*Okay first, a foreword! I didn't intend for this to be such a massive text wall, but I decided I'd throw a couple of suggestions and ideas out there in hopes that my thoughts are similar to yours, based on what little I've seen of this game so far anyway. Thanks~*
I don't like how the grid map and squadrons seem to work currently. It looks like the developer has put way too much importance and dependence on the squadrons themselves and the amount of ship damage they can do, while not focusing at all on map layout, hazards, and especially movement of said squadrons. It's WAY too punishing that simply issuing a movement command to a squadron costs an entire focus point.
They should instead make it so that issuing a movement command doesn't consume focus until either the squadron reaches its location and starts opening fire, or is intercepted by an enemy squadron, this would allow you to much more reliably chase and intercept enemy squadrons, and dodge incoming fire without punishing you this extremely.
Additionally they need to work a lot on different squadron commands and how squadron AI interact with each other. Most of the time when you try to intercept or take a defensive position next to your ship, enemy squadrons will just buzz by like bees and completely ignore you while making you waste a LOT of focus points. There needs to be some kind of defend command, where you can make a squadron defend a larger area and automatically intercept and force engagement whenever an enemy squadron enters it.
Imagine it like this: in warfare the best defense is ALWAYS a good offense. There's a reason that's a popular adage. Gameplay-wise, you could for example have the option to dedicate a permanent focus point to a squadron so they can set up a defensive position, which will give them an advantage if the enemy decides to attack it directly. In a 1v1 of the same type, the defense will always win so you need to be more tactical about your attack instead of rushing in with as much as you can as fast as you can. It would make for very exciting tactical gameplay, especially if they work on fleshing out their squadron AI too.
Lastly, you should be able to paint a path for your squadrons. It is, again, extremely punishing that you're forced to push a squadron through a thick pocket of asteroids, slowing them down and forcing them to take damage, just because they follow a straight line to their destination and you can't afford to waste the 4 focus points it would take to maneuver them around click by click.
EDIT:
I sound really harsh saying all that. I didn't make it clear that this is an INSANELY fucking promising game, and just this demo looks incredibly fun. I hope you can get some words in with the developers and help them with good feedback. I would love to see gameplay of a fleshed out version of this, or play it myself even.
This reminds me a little bit of Star Wars Empire at War's space RTS combat.
The Omni design reminds me of Obduction.
When reading through the comments, There are two types :
Ones complaining about the lack of perception (fly fighters into asteroids)
And others saying how nice the game looks/how they like it/comparing to other books and games.
Good thing those drones survived, sends them into an asteroid field
Imagine being so incompetent at games you fail to even notice your ships smashing into asteroids and continually repeat the process without a fucking clue as to what is happening.
To be fair, that one is really on the game. For the most part anyway, 2/3 to be exact. I can understand drones being doo dumb to live when in comes to maneuvers(although it _is_ far future, surely rudimentary combat AI could've been made good enough to not kill itself), but why the absolute fuck would frigates and fighters interpret "get to this spot" as "literally ram through the asteroid fields like the madmen you are"?
So are you coming back to it now?
This is love
Well, they owe you for getting yet another backer now
i dont understand that for a person that play's so manny games, you could not see that the life bar of the planes will drop when they move on astroid hexes...
I love the aesthetic in this game. I'm not sure what it reminds me of.
what does it take to notice your units take damage in asteroids....
foundation series eh, ok im in
I feel like saying "like FTL" has become the same as saying "like Dark Souls" whenever two games share some concepts.
So... you're saying FTL is the Dark Souls of roguelikes?
is the name an asimov ref?
Admiral
permission to come aboard
and participate in many more hours of viewing
sir
I really like this :@)
and need more of this in my life
please
The logo for this game kind of looks like the old artifexian logo....
Lol, he's like this game needs to be harder.
While his ship is exploding all fighters are dead, and his hero is dying.
To be fair, I think he knows that was because of his FAMOUS lack of perception.
Breaking news: Thomas FTL, the inventor of the hit game FTL, has indoctrinated another game
Jon did you possibly find out about this on Imgur
Did this video come out earlier then disappear?
He took it down for a bit to fix some audio issue.
Piranath Thanks for letting me know
Stop making me want to play ftl damn it!!
Also, live stream?
Applause for Jon's poor decision making...
This look awsome!
There is no way any of you have watched the entire video yet, why are you commenting?
Tripp W. We're all rebels. We also drink milk staight from the carton and don't give up our seats for the elderly. Don't make us cut you, _Ese_
Tripp W. Honestly, I comment mostly for the channels who deserve it to get more interaction and be more likely to get shown in recommendations.
Tripp W. Why were you commenting!?
This game is so gorgeous.
so when will you play fallout 2?
How about a straight 30 min video a day of tabby asleep? (No weirdness intended)
Or how bout 3 minutes of Tabby in the bath? (Weirdness fully intended)
Finally..... But where did the 1080p go? :(
I'm seeing it this end, but it might be along in a minute for you - shouldn't be long at all.
OK, but what's FTL?
Anyone else lost hope of Jon's continuation of the Witcher series? They're about to make a tv show about it, come on Jon, this is the best time!
Brando J don’t forget the teaser for battlefront 2
There are more games than Witcher just FYI
It doesn't, his comment was in direct response to "Has anyone lost hope..." :)
Joseph Harrietha They must have missed the guy's username at the beginning of your reply. It happens. It's why I actually didn't mind the short lived Google + integration TH-cam tried, it was easier to see who was replying to who when there was a '+' in front of their name. But to respond to you're initial comment, I wouldn't call Jon an asshole, there are a million games out there & he is always putting out content. I was just disappointed after he said that he actually enjoyed The Witcher 1 & was going to continue the series, but never did.
Brando J That's as likely as Jon going back to Deadspace even after getting the plot VERY wrong. Or even Nier Automata
Jon this was painful to watch. Honestly, it wasn't even enjoyable at this point, it wasn't even a perception problem, it was a bad decision problem where you kept doing things you knew were bad ideas. You talk about how its rock paper scissors with fighters/drones/etc. and yet completely seem to forget and repeatedly send your fighters to die. It just hurts watching to the point where I had to turn off the video and finish it later.
-1 proceptin
You are running Windows 10.0.0 exactly??? You have held off the mandatory update for this long?!
That can't be right unless you are running LTSB version of Windows which is pretty much only able to be obtained illegally...
Or maybe because like so many others Jon has the problem where windows 10 refuses to actually install updates and thus crashes whenever he attempts to, no seriously this is an actual thing that loads of people are struggling with.
uh... you know you can't actually withdraw updates for that long without having some form of cracked version, right? As long as you are connected to the internet, even intermittently, update is not optional...
Sure I can withdraw updates for that long when they keep crashing during the update process and you then have to roll back to the previous version, I should know seeing as I've been unable to actually update since fall last year due to it getting to roughly 70% and then crashing, every single time, hell even the windows update helper that forcibly installs itself does nothing too shockingly help and I'm not the only one with this problem, it's also optional when it gives you the handy-dandy option of either "Wait an Hour" "OK" or "Restart Now" or my personal favourite "Pick a Time"
I have to say, not a fan of the combat, for now. Maybe if they make it a bit more interesting....
Actually.
XCOM 2 please
I would actually like to see Jon try original X-COM. Probably not a full play through, but at least crack it open for an hour or so.
Mud Crab he already did original XCOM
I think what Mud Crab means is Xcom: UFO Defense, not the one done by Firaxis.
hi
X com 2 please!!!!!
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This game is too much like ftl
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