Buck 81 and Hearthstone Mansfield double Review best wood burning stove

[@TentFever]

That means that stove is a leaky stove. It’s pulling air from some misplaced gasket or something. Shutting it down doesn’t shut it down then air is being supplied from somewhere it shouldn’t be

[@jeffstover8528]

your buck 81 is the same design as my Quadrafire 4300, Ive had it since 2006 and love it.

[@redtiller1975]

I have a Quadrafire 4300 step top. Fantastic stove. The Buck 81 looks very nice

[@roostercoggburn7436]

I've been running a Drolet Myriad ii for 5 years now and it's been great! Fire twice a day. Takes up to a 22" log north/ south and 22" inch east west. Keeps our house ( basement and first floor) 72 and it's -30° wind chills here the last three days in Northern Wisconsin. Highly recommend! Plus side it's $1400 at L&M fleet supply for the myriad III, the Myriad ii is last gen of EPA stoves. I got mine in 2018 for $700 on clearance at Menards as they had to sell them before the latest EPA emissions came out

[@coreym5072]

I have the hearthstone and I can get 12 hour burns all day long. Using nothing but oak. What they mean by burn time is how long coals are still going for and able to restart a fire. If one coal still going they is considered still burn

[@markw2266]

My friend just bought a BlazeKing 30.2. So far he's using about 60% of the wood he used to, and 12 hour burns are nothing at all. Time will tell with the catalytic combuster but it's so far been amazingly clean. Never any smoke out of the chimney. Worth a look if your thinking about trying to get that tax credit before January 1.

[@jjm3254]

Happy birthday Irene. Wishing the Pennington family a Merry Christmas.

[@0808dsmith]

Going to have to check into a Buck stove. There's a Buck stove dealer in town. Will plan on a visit after the holidays. Happy Birthday Irene!

[@nmancini]

I agree, we have a blaze king with a catalytic converter. They are known for long burn times but it’s more due to the self adjusting thermostat to keep it burning low. At times I still miss my old cast iron Nashua

[@aurora04444]

I'm looking at a Blaze King Princess, Pacific Energy Summit LE, Woodstock Soapstone Ideal Steel, Hearthstone Hybrid Mansfield.
What do you think of Blazeking? I do understand the 30 heat hrs heat is due to the catalyst, thermostat, and great air control. Dampered down, get 30 hrs of low low heat.
Then the Pacific Energy Summit LE... noncatalytic, cheaper, reburning box, Northsouth Eastwest firebox, easy to run and fix.
I've had a Hearthstone soapstone, an older reburning tube, 2000 Mansfield. But not much air control on reburning tube, non catalytic ones. It was hot, but had a soft feeling heat. And I loved the NorthSouth and Eastwest loading firebox! I do wonder about the new Hearthstone Hybrid Mansfield, how good the air control is. And how easy is access to catalysts, thru back of stove? Then Woodstock Soapstone Ideal Steel... Hybrid, Northsouth, Eastwest loading firebox for my 16 inch wood. Soapstone liner add on. Lots of great reviews about stoves and customer service; super easy access to catalysts, under top of stove hinges.

[@ninjatech123]

@@aurora04444 I am on my second blaze king so far. I had a princess insert in a masonry fireplace at my old house and loved it. When I moved I was not able to bring it with me as the new house did not have a fireplace that it could be installed in. I ended up getting an absolute steal of a deal on a 3 year old princess freestanding and got that put in at my new place at the end of last year so only have a month or so of time on it, but so far i like it as well. I don't think the free standing one is quite as well behaved as the insert was but I think that is due to the chimney setup here VS the old one, but I may just need more time getting used to it. Only issue I have is it overheating the house (1,200sf house, so the house is quite small for the size of the stove, but I couldn't say no at the price I got it at) 8-12 hours is more realistic on a load of wood than the "30" they claim.

[@nmancini]

@@aurora04444 I was getting 14 hours on mine consistently, 30 hours is pushing it. But very happy with my purchase

[@bagomoyo]

I’ve seen a vid of a guy in Canada saying it holds 12 hrs and he was able to stretched it up to 27 hrs. He burns conifer.

[@reprosser]

I have the 81 as well - works great. One thing I don't use is the ash bin. I just shovel out ashes thru the door.

[@davidedwards3734]

Great review of the Buck stove!! Merry Christmas Y'all!! Happy Birthday Irene!! Stay Hydrated and Have a Safe Day

[@ToddAdams1234]

Happy Birthday Irene. My wife is 2yrs older than me. I’m 51 and she’s 53. Don’t take any CRAP from your husband that loves you. If he didn’t love you then he wouldn’t include you in as many videos as he does. 😊

[@darrenwilson7688]

You have a beautiful home Boedy. It's 30 below here in Kentucky. Need a good fire 🔥

[@stevemcdowell2019]

Merry Christmas and Happy Birthday Irene!

[@mdocod]

Fantastic self-fabricated tools! Agree the only tool needed for a stove is the coal rake with a long handle. I have been meaning to make myself one again. Yours looks perfect!
Your catalytic Mansfield looks different than ours! Are you sure that's not a heritage or Castleton? I'm going through the video here trying to figure out but there's never a shot of the top or left of the stove long enough to make sense of what stove that is. I'm pretty sure that isn't a mansfield... I'm seeing some differences in the location of things on your stove that are not the way our Mansfield is, and the dimensional shape of it... it looks too shallow to be a mansfield.
Assuming it is a heritage, which I believe it is keep in mind that you're comparing a smaller soapstone stove to a larger steel stove here. If it feels like there's a difference in performance and coal-life, there should be. I also believe I am seeing single wall stove pipe on the big buck stove, and double wall on the heritage. I would argue that you can't compare the heat lost up the chimney between these 2 installations as they are not equal. In my experience with an actual Mansfield, this stove puts significantly more heat in the house and provides longer burn cycles when run on single wall stove pipe and the blower/heat-shield assembly fitted and running. This helps extract the heat produced at the catalyst much better, and gives you the range of control on the air inlet that you are looking for. With double wall and no blower to extract more heat especially from the stove collar area and catalyst area, the draft effort just keeps getting stronger and stronger until most of the fuel is burned down. Results in overfired (I've seen 700F surface temps on the soapstone!) stove when burning soft woods!
Steel stoves like the buck 81, if fitted with blowers, can extract a LOT of heat off the firebox, which slows down the burn significantly. It sounds to me like in your case, with the blower combined with the single wall really extracting a lot of heat, that your draft can be calmed down enough that you can actually "starve" the fire right down to a smolder.
I'm very curious if the stove that was sent to the EPA by Buck is built the same as the stove that you received, as any EPA 2020 qualifying stove should not be capable of arresting a load of wood down to a dirty smolder unless it has a catalyst to finish the burn. Just because a stove can be choked down to a flameless smolder for 12+ hours doesn't mean that it should. I'm sure you probably don't run it this way normally but something for folks to think about!
My experience with the Mansfield is that its minimum burn setting only closes down the air wash and low inlet to a very low flow rate (not completely off). The secondary is allowed to "draw" as much air as there is draft to pull it, which means when loaded up full with wood, with no blower to extract heat and double wall stove pipe, it will burn a hot secondary fire until the wood has release almost all wood gases. This is by design... However...
When the stove is fitted with single wall stove pipe and blower to extract heat both from the stove body up around the cats, and from the exhaust just after the cars, the full-closed setting of the stove acts very differently. With the draft and stove heat both "calmed down," full choke can dramatically reduce the active flames in the firebox, and stop the flames long before the wood gases have all been released, however, and this is the most important difference between a cat and non-cat stove; When the Mansfield catalyst stove is choked down in this manner, the smoke still coming from the smoldering wood begins to burn in the catalysts instead of as flames in the firebox. The EGT's actually RISE at this point (I often observe ~600+F EGT's when burning this way, vs ~400-500F EGT's if I let enough air into the firebox to move the fire back down into the firebox, before the cats). This is super important to think about... if you're choking down a fire in a non-cat stove to a smolder, all that smoke is just going up the chimney. You might get a nice long burn cycle, but you're making a mess in the chimney, and smoking out the neighbors, and throwing away a lot of heat! The catalyst can burn that smoke off clean, produce hot clean exhaust that can put more heat in the house and less particulates in the atmosphere, win win!
I burn nothing but garbage ponderosa as that's what I have a mountain of out in the yard. I come home from work around 6PM, load up the stove and let it rip door open till EGT's reach 400F, door closed bypass full air till EGT's hit 800F, engage cat, at which point the EGT's usually fall down to about 700F as the cats and back of the stove heat up. I allow it to continue burn full throttle until the EGT's climb back to at least 800-900F with the cat probe temp showing "active" range before throttling down. This startup procedure cleans and activates the cats and helps minimize deposits in the chimney from cold-slow startups. (the whole process before choke down is about 30 minutes). I close the throttle then back out about 1/4". About 30 minutes later the stove is getting hot so I turn the blower on. On a very cold night, I'll give it more air and continuous feed to build up a huge coal bed, on milder nights I just let this load burn till before bed and reload the stove around midnight.
When I wake in the morning, I turn the blower off. The stove is still pretty hot at this point and there's a lot of coals still in there. Most days I just go to work after turning off the blower. I don't like firing up the stove and then leaving. I get home again around 6PM to stove that is still warm to touch and still have warm coals to start a fire over. Not hot enough to self-ignite at this point (though.. if I raked them into a pile and let them sit in front of the air hole with the throttle up they would get hot enough), but 18 hours later isn't bad for crap wood. The "30 hour heatlife" claims seem feasible with good hardwood packed in tight.

[@marklivingstone3736]

Nice glass door Great watching a good fire We got a storm here today high winds drifting white outs Power off most of the day But combination oil and wood furnace downstairs and a wood cook stove upstairs so…no problem If you want your fire to last longer at night try Banking it. That’s my Dad called it. Fill it up with wood over a good bed of coals and get your ashes you dug out before and cover everything up Might be hard with some stove designs to shovel it up on top

[@nathanuhl582]

Maybe you can sell me that hearthstone or I'll trade you a different stove!😂

[@valekreed4935]

I was doing some research on hearthstone wood stoves and According to them the stove holds heat for 20 some odd hours. They don't burb for that long. They just give off heat from the stones for that long. So they say. Also they claim not making the stove air tight makes it more efficient and a higher epa rating. Unlike the others that you close up and the fire burns out. Apparently that's inefficient and old technology. I just got a old hearthstone someone gave me it needs a lot of work so I. Watching videos to see if it's worth the time to get it going.i have a Englander wood stove similar to your buck. It does what we need. Heats, boiled water cooks food gives us a night light etc.

[@EcSsAwS]

Your lucky. I feed the stove here every 3hours. Sometimes it’ll go for 6. But that’s on a warmer day

[@aaronpowell4885]

Not a fan of temperatures much below 40 F and get grumpy when it doesn't get above freezing for a few days.
Happy birthday Irene!!🎉 Hope y'all made the best of it!

[@davidgoliath982]

actually a catalytic converter is exothermic. once it starts the conversions of compounds to new compounds it is self sustaining as long as it has a steady stream of the required compounds. It does require a certain amount of heat initially for it to fire off. at least this is how i understand it. good reviews overall though

[@shawnglacken3055]

Happy Borned day Ireene.🥳 Our fire place has been going for days.

[@turtleie]

Happy birthday Irene

[@wobdeehomestead]

Is the Hearthstone on a taller chimney? Draft has a lot of play in burn times. May need a pipe damper?

[@stevemcdowell2019]

-9 here in west central Illinois this morning -35 wind chill.

[@rmac41981]

Properly seasoning your wood is better then buying a catalytic stove for reducing your smoke emissions

[@Ketis1985]

We generally dont have wood stoves here in Finland. If we heat with wood we use heat reserving heating ovens or fireplaces. Ofcourse there are central heating boilers around also, but unlike america we have an boiler room in the house.

[@donnaspakes2861]

Very helpful! Thanks!

[@nateolmsted899]

Nothing like a great fire when it’s cold outside

[@Ketis1985]

Its nice to cut timber in the woods when its -15 celsius.

[@scottsmith8056]

Around here rural king has the SQ D psi switch

[@scottsmith8056]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOUR GAL!

[@crazyfeller5704]

Merry Christmas- happy birthday to your wife! Ps, she looks younger than you- no BS.

[@timberslasher4899]

Is that Buck made in USA? I ordered one that claimed to be made in US and first thing I saw when I got it was made in China on the box....🙄🙄

[@nard0q695]

what model did u get? how much & how is it so far? regrets? tia

[@timberslasher4899]

@@nard0q695 I can't remember for sure. I will see if I can find any numbers on back of the stove. I have had it about 10 years now. Even though it was made in China it has done pretty good job.

[@FunkMasterJunk]

Funny, I am here just to see what your experience was with your Hearthstone. I would say the same thing u said. My Hearthstone wont burn through the night. It takes for ever to heat up. Its not much more efficient than my old classic cheap cast iron stove. It also doesent heat the house as well. Its a nice stove but, not what I was expecting.
As for coals, you are right. The key to fire that is hot, is coals. How do you get a big bed of coals quickly? Small wood. Make a fire and split your logs in half. They burn down faster and make more heat.

[@novicelumberjack]

I love you.

[@Ketis1985]

Heartstone does not promise +20hour burn time. They say that wood stove will give you heat 25 hours from load of wood. 2 different things...

[@DeltaFoxtrotWhiskey]

😂 Happy Birthday Irene!

[@jimholz1102]

Port them and put Hammerhead pipes on them! Combustion is cool, in a stove, a fireplace, or an engine.

[@lancestacey2360]

thx

[@rockindocs5716]

Where is the air intake? Like the lever you pushed in and out.... where is the actual air going in? I am used to an old craft stove that has like the dials on the front

[@claudebradley5381]

Just saw that your pump is not working, pressure switch. There is a small tube that goes from the pressure switch to the pump. Sometimes it can become frozen not allowing the switch to work. Just put some heat on it. Right now I have light bulb near mine.

[@DaytonaJim78]

Merry Christmas 🎄

[@aurora04444]

Hearthstone quotes HeatLife, it means giving out any heat. They are not talking tons of heat at all. Just some heat radiating from stones.
But I agree with older Hearthstone Mansfield, not great air control.

[@nard0q695]

is this can be use as insert stove?
is there ash tray for this model? tia

[@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws]

👍🆙BigGuy

[@claudebradley5381]

2 Below here in KY

[@shawncaudill424]

Man I need to redo my stove pipe

[@leonardrichards9079]

Why do the dog prefer the hearthstone mansfield?

[@richardlawrence3770]

Yo Novice put a pipe damper in and you'll be able to choke the fire down more.

[@kingsaws]

Thats a super efficient stove

[@Autigers2013]

Boy, I bet you had those things cranked up lastnight, and tonight will be cold again!

[@the-bu3lb]

What company makes your 181 stove ?

[@novicelumberjack]

It's a Buck 81

[@jacobbuckley8232]

Looks like your hallway needs some drywall on the ceiling

[@putheflamesoutyahoo1503]

Ok wifes gotta see Lewy, what a sweety

[@leekitteltsr4053]

I o

[@timberslasher4899]

3rd

[@brunomahle1618]

Are you aware the vast majority of your viewers speak English?
LOL