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- Need some help selecting the best scope base for your optic? Let's break down one of the choices - selecting the right MOA base.
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One thing I’ll add to this is that it’s always best to have the optic in hand to find out the exact amount of travel that particular scope has. For example, the 7-35 atacr I have has a mfg claim of only 100moa of travel or roughly 29 mils where mine actually has 37.2 mils or roughly 125.55 moa of travel from top to bottom. My leupold mark 5 has a claimed internal travel of 125 moa which is largely true but due to the rotation indication system in the elevation turret it’s limited to 30.1 mils, the vortex razor I had also was in the 120 moa ballpark claimed but it’s rotation indication system only allowed the elevation turret to go to roughly 27.5 mils. So it’s always best to have the scope on hand to test and verify these things first before making a decision.
This is a much appreciated, and simple, explanation. Thank you!
Great explanation, I've been looking for this answer for a while now.
This video is for experienced shooters who truly don't need any help figuring out what MOA their scope rail should be.
A video is needed for beginners to help determine what MOA is needed.
A famous man was once quoted in saying if you can't explain something in a very simple way then most likely you don't understand it either. :)
ps: why would you need a 30 MOA scope base for a 22lr ? anything past 200 yds is pure luck. and by the way the barrel moves upwards not the scope downwards.
People shoot way past 200 with 22lr all the time. It’s not pure luck.
Great explanation very easily understood thank you .
Great information I didn’t know.
Thanks
Thanks I really got what you were talking about to me.
Info i needed. Thanks
Very Helpful graphics and explanation
Thank you for saying 102 moa is approx 1.5 degrees, I wasn't sure but using my ballistics calculator I always plugged in .5 degrees for a my 30 moa area419 mount on my 22lr. Quick question, I know this is subjective based on 22lr ammo, I typically figure 30 moa gives me an approx. 240 - 260 yard zero by my calculations, again using 22lr, does this sound about right, thanks again
What is the length of your scope base for the cz 457? I've looked everywhere and can't find this info
I have a Howa 1500 Tspx with a 20 MOA base with a Vortex Strike eagle 5 x 25x 56 FFP optic on it. I'm having a hard time sighting it in. Is their any advice you can give me. Would a lazer bore sighted help¿
Where do you measure scope height with this rail? My arken sh4 is mounted to a cz 457.
Thank you for sharing
Is it picatinny or weaver rail?
Could I install picatinny mount on it?
What height of rings are those in the video?
Just ordered one for my 452, but before I order my scope rings which height of rings do I need to put out to further distance? Low, medium or high? Clearance of the barrel won't be an issue as I'm currently running low rings and the scope is free from contact of the barrel.
Thanks
Check out our most recent video. This may help! " _HOW TO get your SCOPE MOUNT HEIGHT_ " th-cam.com/video/ETkMRxhUeAI/w-d-xo.html
Welche area 419 für ein Leupold vx6 2-12x42 auf einer Cz 457 varmint mit einem Grey Birch la chassis.
UPDATE to Comments below re CZ-457 w-Athlon scope - It turns out the scope only has 45MOA TOTAL Elevation, Not 80. I need to get Burris Sig XTR rings w-inserts to ADD MOA.
Thanks for you attention.
I just bought 457 varmint pro, put leupold rings on it (medium) and the scope I have is leupold vx freedom 3x9 40, the moa on the scope reads 25, how is this combo when it comes to your number system? Thank you
You’ll want a 15MOA base
Looking to attach a Leopold's 3-9x40mm. I believe the MOA is 60. Which would you recommend the 15 MOA or 30 MOA and why? Mostly shooting 100 range yards.
I’m sure you found the answer to this a year ago, but I’m going to answer for the people who are new. If you’re only shooting 100 yards, you honestly don’t need 30 MOA. you can get away with 0 MOA base even if shooting 22LR. What caliber are you shooting? You need more MOA on your base when you’re shooting long distance. If you’re trying to shoot past 200 yards with 22LR then you should consider a base with MOA 15-30 to get you shooting long distance
Good morning,
I am new to scope mounting and need some advice. I purchased a CZ 457 American (black synthetic) 22 bolt-action rifle and paired it with a Simmons Truplex .22 MAG 3-9x32mm Riflescope. Which MOA baseplate would I need to purchase? Thanks!
We are teaching men to fish here - watch this video and follow the instructions for your optic
Which rail I should choose if I want to use VORTEX VIPER PST GEN II 5-25X50 FFP EBR-7C MOA? 30 MOA? It is said max elevation 70. So I should choose 30 MOA. But I think what if they already mean the half of 140 elevation? So I could buy 50MOA
That scope has 70 total MOA travel. I’ve got 2 of them.
I have a Riton x7 3-18x50 that has 46 mrad of elevation. Downside, the center dot is larger those in my other scopes.
So, Using your formula I should be fine but @ 50yds I need 7-8MOA hold and @ 100 I still need 2-3MOA. I have a CZ-457 V-MTR 22LR and a 30MOA A419 Rail. I'm using a Medium ringset with an Athlon Argos 8-34x56 FFP-SF-MOA, which has 80MOA total. I have the Vertical Turret all the way down and am unable to Zero at either distance. I believe I need a Lower ring, but I think getting Burris sigs and use 20 +/- @ R/F to be able to reach 200-ish yds.
Does this sound reasonable ?
Not 100% familiar on how it works on that optic, but sounds like you may be running into your zero stop
@@area419 No, I removed the 'Stop' so I could dial down. This Athlon only has 80MOA total and I dialed down ca 160-cliks, to the end. I began with 50yds POI about 18-20" high, per a laser bore-sight. I removed the stop and dialed all the way down and still needed 7-8 moa (hold above crosshair) to hit POA @ 50yds AND 2-MOA to hit POA @ 100yds with live-fire per the Christmas-tree. I intend to get the Burris Sig ringset and put -20 in Front and +20 ? in back, if that will still clear the barrel with the 56mm front bell. This is to have 200yds PLUS Zero available. Does this make sense?
Please, wich height of rings for a leupold mark 3hd with 40mm diameter objective ?? For a cz 457 Jaguar
I think medium would be a safe bet, if you could buy a cheap set of low rings that may be the ticket to try out, like the 10 dollar range, you didn't mention if you were using a raised / canted scope base, it typically gives you a little more room and I might try the low based on the base
Which height Will result better for a 457 jaguar which has open rear sight.... So i need yo puta a scope with no touching the rear sight...? Appreciate your help
While this is all dependent on the optic, your best option may be to remove the rear iron sight, if possible. We’ve not worked on a Jaguar model
Would it be correct to say then that for an Arken EP 5. I would need a 50 MOA rail since it has 110 moa for elevation on a Cz 457?
You'd PROBABLY be ok with that, if the travel is perfectly centered when you zero. If not, you may have trouble with a closer range zero. But again, SHOULD work.
Did the 50moa rail work for your cz457 ? I have the same scope and riffle and what rings size did you use?
Hi, Great Video,
Would you recommend the set up you have there for my CZ 452 Lux? I’m struggling what to put on it.
I have two and want a scope on one of them. Any help would be much appreciate! Thanks..
So for .22 give me the differences in distance out to 400
Rifle shooting low you adjust it up are the cross hairs going up or down ?
The “up/down” is to adjust point of impact relative to the reticle, so you want to come “up”
@@area419 Your reticle is actually moving "opposite" to the direction on turret.
@@area419 But your reticle is moving down.
@@Rick-tb4so right, but the up/down refer to the impact. Since you seem to already know everything, why are you asking for help?
@@area419Are you OK there is help out there for you....
Good thing I hunt to get closer to game then trying to be a sniper
EDIT - I just wanted to add the date - May-02-2023.
Another issue is you mount you scope to hight. I see a lot of people using to high of rings. You want to get the scope as low as you can without touching and having a good sight picture. Your eating up your adjust the hight your scope is mounted.
This could account for a couple MOA of elevation adjustment loss, but the issue with optic height (apart from ergonomic concerns) is the greater ability for an off-level rifle to cause misses downrange. This isn't to do with the elevation cant, rather yaw along the bore axis and the idea that there is an exaggerated offset of bore line and optical line.
Why cant you just shoot and if its 3 inches down and 2 to the right… move the scope accordingly. My scope , each click represents 1/4 of an inch
You can. This is about adding adjustment range with a scope base for those wanting to shoot further and further