My favorite movie line is from ''Soldier'', ''I'm going to kill them all, sir.'' It's a cool movie, I highly recommend it. Rorschch's line is a close second, though.
Watchmen is so underrated, it s easily my favourite superhero movie, taking its characters and story very seriously, not like the modern marvel circus that can t tell a serious story without adding one or twelve bad puns. It s a must see for any real supe fan.
For the time. that this movie came out..... It's the best superhero movie ever made. It holds up as one of the better superhero movies even today in comparison with everything Marvel and DC have done. So 15 years ago when they released it this was unbelievably awesome. And it still is.
@@boboboy8189 Spot on about the Dark Knight not understanding human nature. Humans have a natural tendency towards order. The chaos arrives when people fight over what that order should be.
Snyder literally just used the panels from the graphic novel as his story. 300 and Watchmen is just the scenes in the books on screen hence why their his best, because he had nothing to do with the writing. The only glaring difference between this and the comic is Ozymandious being the big bad that gets the US and Russia to not nuke the world instead of a squid monster… probably the right choice Any original Snyder film either flat out sucks or is a huge letdown at least
@@futtbuckerson7394 Have you seen Dawn of the dead remake??? Doesn't matter if it was done before...comic book movies and remakes usually SUCK. Even with the source material people never make good shit they always screw it up. But snyder does wonders and just directs good shit. Dawn of the Dead is the best zombie movie ever and it was done by snyder.
Watchmen One of the best DC movie. Excellent VFX, superb action style. This movie was ahead of its time. And I can say Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame is inspired from this. Zack Snyder is very underrated. If the studio give him freedom he can definitely make good films.
I feel like infinity war is based on the infinity saga comic & also Dragon Ball Z. The obvious parallel of going to a different parent to get the dragon balls where Frieza & Vegeta obliterate the Namekian race while all groups are searching for the dragon balls feels like infinity war when they’re searching for the stones & also Thanos obliterating everyone
Right! Dr. Manhattan is so underrated and would wreck many comic heroes and villains...he has the power to rearrange molecules and atoms..and beyond that. Great DC movie for sure 👍.
I dont think they got this movie at all. This movie separates the simple minded from people with actual brains. Thats why this superhero movie is good and the others are for children. aside from Sin City 2005, that's also a cool comic book movie.,
It's a very deep and interesting film. I like how you really grew to love Rorschach because despite everything, he was true to himself and justice. And you respect that
@@russellward4624 The fact that they liked him (specially being women considering his "sensibilities") it just another way that shows how Snyder completely missed the point
@@theunknownuser9609 “another way that shows how Snyder completely missed the point” why can’t people like you just enjoy a good movie with good characters when you see it? The constant bitching and moaning about Snyder is getting old. Edit: just saw your other replies. Golly your opinions are fuckin’ hogwash.
@@spacetofu19 Because it's an adaptation. These aren't his characters. This is an adaptation of the Watchmen graphic novel. And Snyder romanticizes what the graphic novel deconstructs and whitewashes Rorschach to turn him into a Batman 2.0 that kills. What's more by changing the character and having Dreiberg scream in terror at the sight of his death and on top of that the next scene when he grabs Adrian and starts to tell him how he's mutilated mankind yadda yadda(all this doesn't happen in the graphic novel) Snyder makes clear what posture he thinks the audience should take rather than allow the ambiguity of the graphic novel. Being a good adaptation goes beyond making sure the visual aspect is truthful.
The Rorschach test is a phycology test where you are shown ink blotches, and you are supposed to tell them what you think you see. Hence the moving ink blotches on Rorschach Mask.
@P-M-869 is correct. This is an older psychology technique to try to use to get some frame of reference for the psyche of some patients. His mask is a constant Rorschach ink blot and changes with his moods. He is a VERY VERY intelligent person and he is purposefully feeding the psychologist/psychiatrist the answers that he knows he should hear for a more serene, common, mundane answer. There is never a right or wrong answer, it’s just supposed to be a slight impression into any bias, experience, creativity, visual cues, trauma, etc. that someone uses to processes some ink on a paper that may seem to be more depending on how we process it. It’s obviously triggering other visions to him. Depending on the evaluators ability, he may know that he’s being mocked, or he completely buy in to the misdirection.
"I met a traveller from an antique land, Who said-Two vast and trunkless legs of stone Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand, Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown, And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command, Tell that its sculptor well those passions read Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things, The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed; And on the pedestal, these words appear: 'My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings; Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!' Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.” -Ozymandias, by Percy Bysshe Shelley-
The saddest, toughest superhero film I've ever seen to this day...Still angry Rorshach dies but not Ozzy for what he did..Doc Manahttan shouldn't have let that go..Rorshach may have been willing to keep quiet, then. He may have been a psycho-killer, but he died for what was right. Big props to the cast and director--They nailed Alan Moore's DC 600-page graphic novel word-for word on film.
How it went down is why it's perfect. Rorschach couldn't keep his mouth shut if he wanted to and if he did he'd be the next comedian. It's not supposed to be a feel good superheroes win in the end. Watchmen walked 40 years ago so stuff like the boys could run today.
Highly underrated movie. When this one first appeared in theaters, it was generally panned by critics, and the fans were mixed in their reviews. I never understood that. I always thought this movie was just amazing. Everything about the movie makes it feel unlike any other comic book/Superhero movie I have ever seen... and the Acting is superb! Still one of my favorite Superhero movies ever!
Agreed, but please stop saying “underrated.” That word is dead. Every 2 seconds somebody is saying that someone or something is underrated… it’s annoying as hell. Not sure when or why “underrated” became everybody’s favorite word. But it’s weird how everybody’s so in love with it
I dont think they got this movie at all. This movie separates the simple minded from people with actual brains. Thats why this superhero movie is good and the others are for children. aside from Sin City 2005, that's also a cool comic book movie.,
Seriously..?? I think this is the second worst, after League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. It completely misses all the meaning and lessons behind the original... Turns VILLAIN characters like Rorschach into cool misunderstood heroes.. He changes pro-communist comments made by Moore, into CLEAR anti-communist statements. And the worst part is that I don´t think Snyder even realizes he did this... I think he legitimately tried to adapt this literally, but just didn´t understand the original comic 😅😅
@@gabrielp9646 I only said that from my POV. Even with his visual style, Snyder did about 80% of the story justice, and he only understood half of the main characters.
@gabrielp9646 To anyone in the demographic at the time it came out, rorschach was not a villain. The pro commie crap was to set the scene, no one was pro commie 40 yeas ago. It was anti authority, anti government, anti war. It was pro liberal talking points to show the parody of what was happening a world away no one cared about cause muh guns. And the public needed to be like that to a degree to spawn a need for heroes. The whole point is there was a bad guy with a gun around every corner. Cities were degenerate cesspools but still somehow you could raise a family. Not true of today. People shooting up schools and mass shootings are a recent thing. Life is becomming more like the comic than not and that's the point of the comic. And stats being changed to impose a narrative so everything is a mass shooting now instead of gang bangers doing gang banger crap plays right into the authority controlling the narrative that the comic was putting a spot light on. Who watches the watchmen means whose perspective counts and whose doesn't? And in the strongest way possible Alan Moore shows you that the authority's perspective should be disregarded in almost every single instance.
@@tonyb7615 "The pro commie stuff was to set the scene, no one was pro commie 40 years ago". Suuuure, buddy... You know so much: i.pinimg.com/1200x/22/51/d8/2251d8473fb7d7bd155a974753aa7a96.jpg
@@tonyb7615 Sorry, I responded to your comment before reading it all, and realizing you´re an actual crazy person. Sorry I took you so seriously, at first... Have a nice life.
So glad you got to react to this one, girls. The story of Watchmen is an absolute masterpiece. Needless to say there is so much to unpack here but to cover the main story of it all, Adrian used Dr. Manhattan’s energy signatures to power the nuclear attacks on the world so that it would look like he caused them & everyone in the world could finally unite as one and stop the global conflicts all around. Like Adrian himself said, “kill millions in order to save billions.” I also am really glad you both developed a soft spot for Rorschach throughout the film. He really is one of the most iconic comic book characters of them all but is heavily maligned because he is a stone cold killer, but as you saw in the film, he believes that there is no other way to truly uphold justice than to eradicate all crime with the same amount of energy & intent it began with.
Great, Deep, complex story. Watchmen is amazing. And yeah the story of Watchmen is set during the Cold War. In this fictional timeline, America wins the proxy wars like the one in Vietnam with the help of Dr. Manhatten. United States Of America vs. The Soviet Union aka Russia. Nuclear Destruction becomes a for sure thing in this timeline and the doomsday clock is counting down. Adrian (Osymandias) stops these 2 superpowers armed with nuclear weapons and prevents them from destroying each other and the whole world by creating a mutual enemy in Dr. Manhatten. Peace is achieved and mankind annihilation is prevented through this lie. Shit is crazy.
I dont think they got this movie at all. This movie separates the simple minded from people with actual brains. Thats why this superhero movie is good and the others are for children. aside from Sin City 2005, that's also a cool comic book movie.,
In most people from the younger generations, feels lost the fact that in this universe Nixon and Kissinger have been in the White House for a third term is terrifying. Having lived through the times when a president said about crimes during his administration "if the president does it, then it's legal" It's understandable that in a universe where he won the Vietnam war with the assistance of Dr. Manhattan, he would become so popular that no one would have dared to question his actions, no matter how corrupt, and Kissinger was a hard liner, who favored the US waging wars in representation of the capitalism vs. communism all over the world.
the violence was too explicit However I still love this film especially the climax. I concur w Synder’s Idea to use a bomb instead of the stupid concept of a giant squid. I love the thought provoking question “would god approve of killing millions to save billions?” 😊
It does make sense to substitute the squid, it works. The first time I watched it I was very close to the end before realizing none of that sub-plot had been set up. He could've pulled it off in a miniseries but it would've been a step too far to squeeze in teleporting squid here.
Cause the squid is pretty much a bomb, anyway. It was teleported there just to create a bang from having two objects occupying the same space in the universe. The original masterplan isn't very masterful, to be honest. Even on the comic book it's very odd when the squid is mentioned for the first time.
I dont think they got this movie at all. This movie separates the simple minded from people with actual brains. Thats why this superhero movie is good and the others are for children. aside from Sin City 2005, that's also a cool comic book movie.,
This is based on the famous comic book by Alan Moore, which is probably one of the most influential comics in the last 50 years. I HIGHLY recommend that you get a copy and read it, because there is SO much more in the book than in the film. For the sake of time limits, they had to cut a lot of background info and sub-plots out of the movie, which is fair enough (and probably the only way it could have been made at all), but they make the book vastly richer and re-readable. The level of detail in some of the panels is insane and the way in which what looks like minor background detail turns out to be the plot coming back around through the same scene 100 pages later is just mind-blowing.
I was going to post a similar comment. The original twelve issue series is essentially a novel. I wish they could have placed the Black Freighter in the movie, but time did not permit.
@@cyclonus_is_a_nerd The vision I see in Legion is that it is not the common, rehashed superhero story. Its not the same thing we see over and over and over again. It displayed a completely fresh creative expression. After numerous decades of basically the same story...just with the superheros and villains swapped out, it was nice to FINALLY see something new. Watchmen also provided this new creative expression although it was closer to the norm but flipped....a critique of sorts of the common storyline.
You asked for a full accounting of DC films. Here are some to consider, sorted roughly chronologically: Christopher Reeves as Superman (first two) - Superman: The Movie (1978)
I love the honesty of the plot. The challenges feel authentic. For us in the audience, it provokes so many "what's the right thing to do?" moments. We're very involved. It's not simplistic or too didactic. While it could have just been a mere attack on power, it actually shows the incredibly tough decisions that come with power. It reminds me of all the big 'enlightenment period' questions and ideas we learned about in my sociology degree, such as how much freedom is best, the value of life, what values are objective etc. Above all, whether negative means justify positive ends and whether it's ok to be live happily under a lie.
At the time this movie was released, critics judge on bad pacing because of theater's cut. This movie also were hated because its doesnt use giant squid.
The comic book this movie is based on was a satire of Superheroes sort of like the show on Amazon THE BOYS that’s why none of the heroes had recognizable names like Batman,Wonderwoman or,Superman,but they were types of those heroes
iirc superheroes were outlawed. That is why they don't go out to save ppl. That's why they said "want to go out and do something stupid". It's illegal to go out as superheroes, so going out as superheroes is stupid. They will get locked up like Rorschach. Those two are not like The Boys. They genuinely like helping ppl. They are just not legally allowed to help ppl. The closest character to The Boys would be the Comedian but even he is more complicated of a charater than most of the Boys' two dimensional characters (I am going off of the first two season of the Boys. I didn't watch beyond the second season).
In a world where people decide to be heroes, Watchmen is a movie about the regular people behind the mask: they have flaws, sleep with each other, have favorites, fight amongst themselves, and abuse their power.....just like regular people. We think it'd be nice to have superpowers, but look what happens when we give super "powers" to regular people: A politician and a policeman are regular people with "extra powers." They're above the law because we want someone ELSE to "help save the world," instead of being better people and doing it ourselves. Do people love and admire mayors and policemen, like they do Superman and Wonder Woman? It's the opposite. We treat them like: Watchmen. We let them do authoratative things for awhile, we let them wear a snazzy uniform with flashy parts, then we get angry at them as a mob and throw things at them, hobble them with new laws, and finally try to lock them up and force them out, away from regular people,. Then, when things go south, we call them back to work, rather than do something ourselves. Stop crime in my neighborhood? Cant. Gotta work tomorrow. Netflix. My kid is sick. My dog needs walking. Watchmen exposes how humans treat other humans with power, showing how power corrupts (1)those who have it, (2)those who dont, and (3) those who want it. And when someone DOESNT get corrupted.....they get blown apart, like Rorschach
If you want to watch these DC movies, you should start from the beginning of the DCEU: 01) Man of Steel 02) Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice ULTIMATE EDITION 03) Wonder Woman 04) Suicide Squad 05) Zack Snyder's Justice League (4 hours) 06) Aquaman 07) Shazam! Skip a few movies and stop with: 08) Black Adam -OG
Seriously..?? This is one of the worst comicbook adaptations of all time. It completely misses all the meaning and lessons behind the original... Turns VILLAIN characters like Rorschach into cool misunderstood heroes.. And the worst part is that I don´t think Snyder even realizes he did this. I think he legitimately tried to adapt this literally, but just didn´t understand the original comic 😅😅
Watchmen is the best comic book movie that's also a top tier movie. The only other one that comes close or better is V for vendetta. As for regular old comic book movies, the best is either blade or dredd 2012. It would be the dark knight if not for it being a part of a trilogy that overall wasn't that great.
Loved the MCR cover of B Dylan's Desolation Row at the end. I would recommend the HBO show Watchman as long as you understand that the event Adrian caused at the end of the movie was changed from the original story to fit this movie.
Note: This actress Malin Åkerman who is Silk Specter is also european from Stockholm, Sweden. Suggestion: React to the film 'An American Werewolf in London.'
The trouble is Ozymandias is wrong, people can be united, the existence of nations, communities, religions prove that. But people will always find causes, excuses and rationales for conflict, they will invent them. His effort would only be a tourniquet, a temporary solution. And even more, the truth will always be found out.
This is an adaptation of Alan Moore's comic. Very poor adaptation that while visually adapting the panels of the comic completely undermines itself by missing the point of the themes the story actually explores and turning Rorsasch (who's a far right wing, misogynistic, homophobic racist) into Batman 2.0 and turning a story of heavily flawed individuals who dress weird and fight crime not out of a sense of justice but because they can't cope with their own flaws and traumas into a cool action movie with superheros joining forces to save the world.
Michelle has to watch Batman v Superman and the justice league(the spider cut),Vicky has to watch the suicide squad ,so all of you can watch the the suicide squad (2021) this one Is a masterpiece ,it's way better than the first one, Harley Quinn Is there too
This movie takes a couple of viewings to really get what is going on. Also there are actually a couple of different versions of the movie, to make things even more confusing.
The films "a history of violence" starring Viggo Mortensen (Aragorn in the Lord of the Rings) and "Road to Perdition" starring Tom Hanks, are also part of DC movies, they are not superheroes but very good drama and thriller. Recommended
What would you do if it was you who found Rorshach's diary? I'd read it and burn it. The search for truth may be the noblest of human activities but is not worth World War III and the total human extintion. Wars start with lies, why can't peace if it works? Also, the reason Ozzy is so strong is because he is fast, the kinetic energy is calculated as 1/2 m*(v^2) if you go faster you punch with more energy because it grows exponentially.
" You don't seem to understand, I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me" 9/10 10 years later Some time after "The Boys" I decided to give this film a rematch... Back in 2009 it was still a time when there was not that many similar to each other superhero films Watchmen cam out a bit too early..., What makes Watchmen feeling so fresh in 2020 is that it's completely different to most of Marvel films.... The characters in Watchmen feel more like real people than idealistic figures you usually get - they age, they change opinions on things, they do wrong things... The world is also much more similar to ours in 2020 that it was in 2009... Brilliant film 9/10!
Aaagh! You cut off the best line in the movie! "What you don't seem to understand is, I'm not locked in here with you... You're locked in here with me!"
Great reaction, Ladies - as always :) Watchmen is based on a VERY famous comic-book. After watching this movie in theater I wished, this guy (Zack Snyder) should be allowed to do Justice League! And today we all know what happened. Too many Snyder haters had destroyed his vision of a dark'n'brilliant Justice League and we comic-nerds will never be able to watch JL 2 & 3 :(
"I'm not locked in here with you... YOU'RE ALL LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME!" Greatest movie line of all time.
My favorite movie line is from ''Soldier'', ''I'm going to kill them all, sir.'' It's a cool movie, I highly recommend it. Rorschch's line is a close second, though.
That line from Rorschach gets me so hype every god damn time
Probably not the best, but top tier definitively. Every time I hear it, I got chills.
Not even close. Not even in this movie. Even “I feel fear for the last time” is a better line.
Agreed 👍 👍. Never fear in line of true justice and being together through it all!!
Watchmen is so underrated, it s easily my favourite superhero movie, taking its characters and story very seriously, not like the modern marvel circus that can t tell a serious story without adding one or twelve bad puns. It s a must see for any real supe fan.
These "underrated" comments. Under every fcking movie and song. Pls sht tf up. It 2as a great success and everything else than underrated
For the time. that this movie came out..... It's the best superhero movie ever made. It holds up as one of the better superhero movies even today in comparison with everything Marvel and DC have done.
So 15 years ago when they released it this was unbelievably awesome. And it still is.
It's still the best superhero movie ever made.
For me this movie beating the dark knight because its a moral dillema while the dark knight is just not human nature to do chaos
@@boboboy8189 Spot on about the Dark Knight not understanding human nature. Humans have a natural tendency towards order. The chaos arrives when people fight over what that order should be.
Jackie Earle Haley, Jeffrey Dean Morgan, and Billy Crudup were absolutely perfectly cast in this movie
Snyder created this movie, that so ahead of its time for sure, it’s still looks fresh and modern - truly masterpiece!❤
Snyder n'a rien créé. Watchmen est un livre de base
Snyder literally just used the panels from the graphic novel as his story. 300 and Watchmen is just the scenes in the books on screen hence why their his best, because he had nothing to do with the writing. The only glaring difference between this and the comic is Ozymandious being the big bad that gets the US and Russia to not nuke the world instead of a squid monster… probably the right choice
Any original Snyder film either flat out sucks or is a huge letdown at least
The smartest thing Snyder did was surrender his ego and slavishly follow the comic book as laid out by Alan Moore And Dave Gibbons
Snyder didn’t create anything. It’s one of the most famous comic books in history
@@futtbuckerson7394 Have you seen Dawn of the dead remake??? Doesn't matter if it was done before...comic book movies and remakes usually SUCK. Even with the source material people never make good shit they always screw it up. But snyder does wonders and just directs good shit. Dawn of the Dead is the best zombie movie ever and it was done by snyder.
Watchmen One of the best DC movie. Excellent VFX, superb action style. This movie was ahead of its time. And I can say Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame is inspired from this. Zack Snyder is very underrated. If the studio give him freedom he can definitely make good films.
I feel like infinity war is based on the infinity saga comic & also Dragon Ball Z. The obvious parallel of going to a different parent to get the dragon balls where Frieza & Vegeta obliterate the Namekian race while all groups are searching for the dragon balls feels like infinity war when they’re searching for the stones & also Thanos obliterating everyone
Right! Dr. Manhattan is so underrated and would wreck many comic heroes and villains...he has the power to rearrange molecules and atoms..and beyond that. Great DC movie for sure 👍.
I dont think they got this movie at all.
This movie separates the simple minded from people with actual brains.
Thats why this superhero movie is good and the others are for children.
aside from Sin City 2005, that's also a cool comic book movie.,
@@tanelviil9149 chill out
@@packedentertainment2866 iam chilled
Again, these 2 space cadets should never be left alone. They dont understand anything.
It's a very deep and interesting film. I like how you really grew to love Rorschach because despite everything, he was true to himself and justice. And you respect that
He wasn't about justice. He was about vengeance. He's insane.
@@russellward4624 The fact that they liked him (specially being women considering his "sensibilities") it just another way that shows how Snyder completely missed the point
@@russellward4624he's a more honest poor Batman.
And yes, both are insane.
@@theunknownuser9609 “another way that shows how Snyder completely missed the point” why can’t people like you just enjoy a good movie with good characters when you see it? The constant bitching and moaning about Snyder is getting old.
Edit: just saw your other replies. Golly your opinions are fuckin’ hogwash.
@@spacetofu19 Because it's an adaptation. These aren't his characters. This is an adaptation of the Watchmen graphic novel. And Snyder romanticizes what the graphic novel deconstructs and whitewashes Rorschach to turn him into a Batman 2.0 that kills. What's more by changing the character and having Dreiberg scream in terror at the sight of his death and on top of that the next scene when he grabs Adrian and starts to tell him how he's mutilated mankind yadda yadda(all this doesn't happen in the graphic novel) Snyder makes clear what posture he thinks the audience should take rather than allow the ambiguity of the graphic novel. Being a good adaptation goes beyond making sure the visual aspect is truthful.
The Rorschach test is a phycology test where you are shown ink blotches, and you are supposed to tell them what you think you see. Hence the moving ink blotches on Rorschach Mask.
@P-M-869 is correct. This is an older psychology technique to try to use to get some frame of reference for the psyche of some patients. His mask is a constant Rorschach ink blot and changes with his moods. He is a VERY VERY intelligent person and he is purposefully feeding the psychologist/psychiatrist the answers that he knows he should hear for a more serene, common, mundane answer. There is never a right or wrong answer, it’s just supposed to be a slight impression into any bias, experience, creativity, visual cues, trauma, etc. that someone uses to processes some ink on a paper that may seem to be more depending on how we process it. It’s obviously triggering other visions to him. Depending on the evaluators ability, he may know that he’s being mocked, or he completely buy in to the misdirection.
"I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said-Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
'My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”
-Ozymandias, by Percy Bysshe Shelley-
Love this film, absolutely one of the best movies of superheroes.
The saddest, toughest superhero film I've ever seen to this day...Still angry Rorshach dies but not Ozzy for what he did..Doc Manahttan shouldn't have let that go..Rorshach may have been willing to keep quiet, then. He may have been a psycho-killer, but he died for what was right. Big props to the cast and director--They nailed Alan Moore's DC 600-page graphic novel word-for word on film.
How it went down is why it's perfect. Rorschach couldn't keep his mouth shut if he wanted to and if he did he'd be the next comedian. It's not supposed to be a feel good superheroes win in the end. Watchmen walked 40 years ago so stuff like the boys could run today.
*This is one of my favorite superhero movies. Jeffrey Dean Morgan played the Hell out the Comedian and Jimmy Olson was sic in this too!*
For me this is the Best superhero movie ever. I watch the dark knight few month ago but its doesnt looks good anymore. This movie still looks relevant
A lot of the shots are almost ripped right out of the graphic novel. The aesthetic and filmmaking artistry of this movie is top tier
And that's pretty much the only part Snyder succeded in
Highly underrated movie. When this one first appeared in theaters, it was generally panned by critics, and the fans were mixed in their reviews.
I never understood that. I always thought this movie was just amazing. Everything about the movie makes it feel unlike any other comic book/Superhero movie I have ever seen... and the Acting is superb!
Still one of my favorite Superhero movies ever!
It came out at the worst time. If this came out say 2016 I think it be far better appreciated and understood. It’s a cult classic now
Agreed, but please stop saying “underrated.” That word is dead. Every 2 seconds somebody is saying that someone or something is underrated… it’s annoying as hell. Not sure when or why “underrated” became everybody’s favorite word. But it’s weird how everybody’s so in love with it
Read the cómic, Man. The movie is good but too different, the book Is way better, Rorschach & owl are way More human
@@mauriciosalgadogonzalez2305 how is that better?
I dont think they got this movie at all.
This movie separates the simple minded from people with actual brains.
Thats why this superhero movie is good and the others are for children.
aside from Sin City 2005, that's also a cool comic book movie.,
The Ultimate Cut is the only true Version of the Movie! Without the Black Freighter, something is simply missing from the story!
Disagree though, that animation actually ruin the pacing of this movie. I prefer if they put it on post Credit scene of before the movie started
23:00 Ellie’s Face 😂😂😂
This was defiantly the best of the adaptations of Moore's work.
Seriously..?? I think this is the second worst, after League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. It completely misses all the meaning and lessons behind the original... Turns VILLAIN characters like Rorschach into cool misunderstood heroes.. He changes pro-communist comments made by Moore, into CLEAR anti-communist statements. And the worst part is that I don´t think Snyder even realizes he did this... I think he legitimately tried to adapt this literally, but just didn´t understand the original comic 😅😅
@@gabrielp9646 I only said that from my POV. Even with his visual style, Snyder did about 80% of the story justice, and he only understood half of the main characters.
@gabrielp9646 To anyone in the demographic at the time it came out, rorschach was not a villain. The pro commie crap was to set the scene, no one was pro commie 40 yeas ago. It was anti authority, anti government, anti war. It was pro liberal talking points to show the parody of what was happening a world away no one cared about cause muh guns. And the public needed to be like that to a degree to spawn a need for heroes. The whole point is there was a bad guy with a gun around every corner. Cities were degenerate cesspools but still somehow you could raise a family. Not true of today. People shooting up schools and mass shootings are a recent thing. Life is becomming more like the comic than not and that's the point of the comic. And stats being changed to impose a narrative so everything is a mass shooting now instead of gang bangers doing gang banger crap plays right into the authority controlling the narrative that the comic was putting a spot light on. Who watches the watchmen means whose perspective counts and whose doesn't? And in the strongest way possible Alan Moore shows you that the authority's perspective should be disregarded in almost every single instance.
@@tonyb7615 "The pro commie stuff was to set the scene, no one was pro commie 40 years ago". Suuuure, buddy... You know so much: i.pinimg.com/1200x/22/51/d8/2251d8473fb7d7bd155a974753aa7a96.jpg
@@tonyb7615 Sorry, I responded to your comment before reading it all, and realizing you´re an actual crazy person. Sorry I took you so seriously, at first... Have a nice life.
I wonder how they were able to get a picture of my Dad yelling at me on Rorschach's mask?? Cinema magic I guess...
So glad you got to react to this one, girls. The story of Watchmen is an absolute masterpiece. Needless to say there is so much to unpack here but to cover the main story of it all, Adrian used Dr. Manhattan’s energy signatures to power the nuclear attacks on the world so that it would look like he caused them & everyone in the world could finally unite as one and stop the global conflicts all around. Like Adrian himself said, “kill millions in order to save billions.”
I also am really glad you both developed a soft spot for Rorschach throughout the film. He really is one of the most iconic comic book characters of them all but is heavily maligned because he is a stone cold killer, but as you saw in the film, he believes that there is no other way to truly uphold justice than to eradicate all crime with the same amount of energy & intent it began with.
Great, Deep, complex story. Watchmen is amazing. And yeah the story of Watchmen is set during the Cold War. In this fictional timeline, America wins the proxy wars like the one in Vietnam with the help of Dr. Manhatten. United States Of America vs. The Soviet Union aka Russia. Nuclear Destruction becomes a for sure thing in this timeline and the doomsday clock is counting down. Adrian (Osymandias) stops these 2 superpowers armed with nuclear weapons and prevents them from destroying each other and the whole world by creating a mutual enemy in Dr. Manhatten. Peace is achieved and mankind annihilation is prevented through this lie. Shit is crazy.
Punisher.....
Yes, it sucks that it was such a flop when it came out. It was ahead of it’s time
I dont think they got this movie at all.
This movie separates the simple minded from people with actual brains.
Thats why this superhero movie is good and the others are for children.
aside from Sin City 2005, that's also a cool comic book movie.,
Fun fact about the actor that played Rorschach: My sister in-law's mother almost married him.
That's actually pretty cool
Rorschach was my favorite character. I’m hoping they make a movie/series of the character.
In most people from the younger generations, feels lost the fact that in this universe Nixon and Kissinger have been in the White House for a third term is terrifying.
Having lived through the times when a president said about crimes during his administration "if the president does it, then it's legal"
It's understandable that in a universe where he won the Vietnam war with the assistance of Dr. Manhattan, he would become so popular that no one would have dared to question his actions, no matter how corrupt, and Kissinger was a hard liner, who favored the US waging wars in representation of the capitalism vs. communism all over the world.
Both jail scenes with Rorschach. You have to watch the tv series to see what happened to these people.
Dr. Manhattan is the only one with powers. The others are just good at fighting.
the violence was too explicit However I still love this film especially the climax. I concur w Synder’s Idea to use a bomb instead of the stupid concept of a giant squid. I love the thought provoking question “would god approve of killing millions to save billions?” 😊
It does make sense to substitute the squid, it works.
The first time I watched it I was very close to the end before realizing none of that sub-plot had been set up.
He could've pulled it off in a miniseries but it would've been a step too far to squeeze in teleporting squid here.
Cause the squid is pretty much a bomb, anyway. It was teleported there just to create a bang from having two objects occupying the same space in the universe. The original masterplan isn't very masterful, to be honest. Even on the comic book it's very odd when the squid is mentioned for the first time.
I dont think they got this movie at all.
This movie separates the simple minded from people with actual brains.
Thats why this superhero movie is good and the others are for children.
aside from Sin City 2005, that's also a cool comic book movie.,
The HBO show proved the squid would have worked and was terrifying. Admittedly, for the time, Snyder made the right choice with his change.
@@undbiter65 Then again, the comic book already had it "working" and still to me, it kinda falls flat.
This is based on the famous comic book by Alan Moore, which is probably one of the most influential comics in the last 50 years. I HIGHLY recommend that you get a copy and read it, because there is SO much more in the book than in the film. For the sake of time limits, they had to cut a lot of background info and sub-plots out of the movie, which is fair enough (and probably the only way it could have been made at all), but they make the book vastly richer and re-readable. The level of detail in some of the panels is insane and the way in which what looks like minor background detail turns out to be the plot coming back around through the same scene 100 pages later is just mind-blowing.
I was going to post a similar comment. The original twelve issue series is essentially a novel. I wish they could have placed the Black Freighter in the movie, but time did not permit.
To date....my two favorite Superhero genre are Watchmen and the tv series Legion.
They are both on the next level compared to anything else.
I do enjoy Watchmen but Legion...? I don't see the vision there
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The vision I see in Legion is that it is not the common, rehashed superhero story. Its not the same thing we see over and over and over again. It displayed a completely fresh creative expression.
After numerous decades of basically the same story...just with the superheros and villains swapped out, it was nice to FINALLY see something new.
Watchmen also provided this new creative expression although it was closer to the norm but flipped....a critique of sorts of the common storyline.
@@chandie5298 makes sense to me, cool!
You asked for a full accounting of DC films. Here are some to consider, sorted roughly chronologically:
Christopher Reeves as Superman (first two)
- Superman: The Movie (1978)
I love the honesty of the plot. The challenges feel authentic. For us in the audience, it provokes so many "what's the right thing to do?" moments. We're very involved.
It's not simplistic or too didactic. While it could have just been a mere attack on power, it actually shows the incredibly tough decisions that come with power.
It reminds me of all the big 'enlightenment period' questions and ideas we learned about in my sociology degree, such as how much freedom is best, the value of life, what values are objective etc. Above all, whether negative means justify positive ends and whether it's ok to be live happily under a lie.
At the time this movie was released, critics judge on bad pacing because of theater's cut. This movie also were hated because its doesnt use giant squid.
One of the best DC movies ever! Dr. Manhattan would wreck so many comics heroes. He truly is underrated...
Check out "Doomsday Clock" from DC, a really interesting look into how Dr Manhattan interacts with the multiverse and other heroes
Underrated ? More like overrated as fuck
The movie is a masterpiece.. if u never read the cómic book
Amazing movie, the kind that makes you think about some difficult things, sometimes
"I'm not in here with you, you're in here with me."
The comic book this movie is based on was a satire of Superheroes sort of like the show on Amazon THE BOYS that’s why none of the heroes had recognizable names like Batman,Wonderwoman or,Superman,but they were types of those heroes
iirc superheroes were outlawed. That is why they don't go out to save ppl. That's why they said "want to go out and do something stupid". It's illegal to go out as superheroes, so going out as superheroes is stupid. They will get locked up like Rorschach.
Those two are not like The Boys. They genuinely like helping ppl. They are just not legally allowed to help ppl. The closest character to The Boys would be the Comedian but even he is more complicated of a charater than most of the Boys' two dimensional characters (I am going off of the first two season of the Boys. I didn't watch beyond the second season).
Rorschach is such a dope character.
Omg so happy you decided to check this movie out!!
"Good grief, he's NAKED!!'
In a world where people decide to be heroes, Watchmen is a movie about the regular people behind the mask: they have flaws, sleep with each other, have favorites, fight amongst themselves, and abuse their power.....just like regular people.
We think it'd be nice to have superpowers, but look what happens when we give super "powers" to regular people:
A politician and a policeman are regular people with "extra powers." They're above the law because we want someone ELSE to "help save the world," instead of being better people and doing it ourselves.
Do people love and admire mayors and policemen, like they do Superman and Wonder Woman? It's the opposite. We treat them like: Watchmen. We let them do authoratative things for awhile, we let them wear a snazzy uniform with flashy parts, then we get angry at them as a mob and throw things at them, hobble them with new laws, and finally try to lock them up and force them out, away from regular people,. Then, when things go south, we call them back to work, rather than do something ourselves. Stop crime in my neighborhood? Cant. Gotta work tomorrow. Netflix. My kid is sick. My dog needs walking.
Watchmen exposes how humans treat other humans with power, showing how power corrupts (1)those who have it, (2)those who dont, and (3) those who want it. And when someone DOESNT get corrupted.....they get blown apart, like Rorschach
This is the first "I aint reading all that" comment I actually took the time to read. This is a very good analysis
@@cyclonus_is_a_nerd what a great thing to say. That made my day. Thank you
This is one of my favorite movies ever
If you want to watch these DC movies, you should start from the beginning of the DCEU:
01) Man of Steel
02) Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice ULTIMATE EDITION
03) Wonder Woman
04) Suicide Squad
05) Zack Snyder's Justice League (4 hours)
06) Aquaman
07) Shazam!
Skip a few movies and stop with:
08) Black Adam -OG
Haven't seen it. But sounds interesting. I'm glad you enjoyed it😊
- he teleported to... where? Mars?
me: yep, Mars. xD
the old guy with a bald head and pointy ears used to be a villain known as Moloch the Mystic.
Snyder's best work by far. Perfectly adapted.
Seriously..?? This is one of the worst comicbook adaptations of all time. It completely misses all the meaning and lessons behind the original... Turns VILLAIN characters like Rorschach into cool misunderstood heroes.. And the worst part is that I don´t think Snyder even realizes he did this. I think he legitimately tried to adapt this literally, but just didn´t understand the original comic 😅😅
@@gabrielp9646 Snyder troll alert
@39:20 😊 ❤️!
Yes!
Revelation supersedes armageddon, always.
Made me laugh when Dr Manhattan appeared in the dining hall (naked) - both your eyelines dropped down to admire his impressive "part" in the movie
At 1st I thought their reaction was like another Tuesday afternoon. Lol
LOL ELLIE'S FACE AT 23:00!
Watchmen is the best comic book movie that's also a top tier movie. The only other one that comes close or better is V for vendetta. As for regular old comic book movies, the best is either blade or dredd 2012. It would be the dark knight if not for it being a part of a trilogy that overall wasn't that great.
Loved the MCR cover of B Dylan's Desolation Row at the end. I would recommend the HBO show Watchman as long as you understand that the event Adrian caused at the end of the movie was changed from the original story to fit this movie.
Great movie! Great reactions ladies!
To explain Dr Manhattan’s door thing. It was probably locked with no abort sequence.
The film is fine. The graphic novel is legendary. They messed with the ending and completely removed some important intermission parts from the book.
Note: This actress Malin Åkerman who is Silk Specter is also european from Stockholm, Sweden.
Suggestion: React to the film 'An American Werewolf in London.'
You should definitely watch the show. Incredibly well done
The trouble is Ozymandias is wrong, people can be united, the existence of nations, communities, religions prove that. But people will always find causes, excuses and rationales for conflict, they will invent them. His effort would only be a tourniquet, a temporary solution. And even more, the truth will always be found out.
Dr.Manhattan rules
They couldn't open the door cause it has a time lock on it, and you can't open it till the time you set is up
This was so ahead of its time.
This is an adaptation of Alan Moore's comic. Very poor adaptation that while visually adapting the panels of the comic completely undermines itself by missing the point of the themes the story actually explores and turning Rorsasch (who's a far right wing, misogynistic, homophobic racist) into Batman 2.0 and turning a story of heavily flawed individuals who dress weird and fight crime not out of a sense of justice but because they can't cope with their own flaws and traumas into a cool action movie with superheros joining forces to save the world.
Masterpiece ever. Great
Ese acento de España es inconfundible
Michelle has to watch Batman v Superman and the justice league(the spider cut),Vicky has to watch the suicide squad ,so all of you can watch the the suicide squad (2021) this one Is a masterpiece ,it's way better than the first one, Harley Quinn Is there too
This movie takes a couple of viewings to really get what is going on. Also there are actually a couple of different versions of the movie, to make things even more confusing.
Directors cut explained everything well while ultimate cut is for purist Who still insist for the animation
Love Watchmen
The films "a history of violence" starring Viggo Mortensen (Aragorn in the Lord of the Rings) and "Road to Perdition" starring Tom Hanks, are also part of DC movies, they are not superheroes but very good drama and thriller. Recommended
What would you do if it was you who found Rorshach's diary? I'd read it and burn it. The search for truth may be the noblest of human activities but is not worth World War III and the total human extintion. Wars start with lies, why can't peace if it works?
Also, the reason Ozzy is so strong is because he is fast, the kinetic energy is calculated as 1/2 m*(v^2) if you go faster you punch with more energy because it grows exponentially.
21:41 - Michelle: "She's a strong baby" Me: "She's also clearly a stunt-man in that particular scene"
I love your reaction beauties 😍😍
I recommend that you watch Master and Commander 💪💪💪
Thanks for this reaction,ohh yeah,more DC
When I first watched watchman I couldn't finished... I was like wtf???
Maybe because you watch theater's cut? You need to watch director's cut
My favorite superhero movie
liked your thoughts at the end
Ohhhh I hope this means a Watchmen TV series reaction is coming - it tied up so much!
" You don't seem to understand, I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me"
9/10
10 years later
Some time after "The Boys" I decided to give this film a rematch... Back in 2009 it was still a time when there was not that many similar to each other superhero films Watchmen cam out a bit too early..., What makes Watchmen feeling so fresh in 2020 is that it's completely different to most of Marvel films.... The characters in Watchmen feel more like real people than idealistic figures you usually get - they age, they change opinions on things, they do wrong things... The world is also much more similar to ours in 2020 that it was in 2009... Brilliant film 9/10!
Adrian is the strongest man in the world.
That's why Rorschach and Owlman couldn't win that fight.
One the best movie of all time ! 👍😒🇺🇸🇮🇹🇲🇽
DO IT!!!
Aaagh! You cut off the best line in the movie! "What you don't seem to understand is, I'm not locked in here with you... You're locked in here with me!"
Good chance it was for copyright. It's like that most the time no matter who/what you're watching on yt.
Wow it's been a while since I've ya'll reaction. And this is a great movie to watch.
Was this the extended cut or not. I bet it wasn't
This movie is epic
Alan moor creo la novela gráfica los vigilantes todo el mundo lo sabe
Now you have to watch the tv series.
THEY SHOULD WATCH THE SHOW NOW!
lol cropped the iconic “locked in” quote.
Hey Michelle 👋🏿 I'm a man and definitely watch-ing Michelle 👁️❤️
Please review pow wow highway or review smoke signals 😊
THEY WERE LIKE WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow, surprised you found this movie. Almost underground.
Watchmen > Marvel Universe
is Ozymandias a hero or a villain ? ask yourself what price would you be willing to pay to prevent a global nuclear holocaust ?
Great movie
Great reaction, Ladies - as always :) Watchmen is based on a VERY famous comic-book. After watching this movie in theater I wished, this guy (Zack Snyder) should be allowed to do Justice League! And today we all know what happened. Too many Snyder haters had destroyed his vision of a dark'n'brilliant Justice League and we comic-nerds will never be able to watch JL 2 & 3 :(
Great video.
41:41 ;)
I don’t care what anybody says… this movie was the shit! It was one of the best superhero movies ever
I like this movie