Old Irish supporter: For the first time in over fifty years it pains me to say that I've less than minimal interest in this year's Bledisloe Cup. It's pointless me going into it deeper than that, other than to give yous some hint as to why I think the craic there is as flat as a witches tit, for me: The stubborn insistance to continually play Reiko Ioane and Ardie Savea out of position, when there are men in the squad who are specialists in those two respective positions. And it doesn't stop with those two players, again, in my opinion...Anyroadup, It's the Springbok vs Pumas clash that whets my interest. The best rugby side on the planet vs the 'Great up-setters'. C'mon the Springboks!🏴☠☘👍. God bless, to all.
Yeh too much complacency, the All black legacy is being ruined with scott Robinson, Rieko ione jordie Barret etc theyre to skinny they aint breaking no tackles, too much skinny guys in the back line, theres tennis players in the back line 90 kg 6'1-6'3 guys in the back line, thats a major weakness wait and see
If we lose the first game against Aus then there will be some serious head scratching for Nz rugby. Lose both and that would draw the line for razor. I think majority of our fans including myself would lose all hope in our future if we lose that bledisloe cup
So frustrating hearing Razor talk about not converting attacking opportunities into tries. The fact is, it is an indicator of the conservative selection policy he's implemented, especially in the midfield. The Jordie/Rieko pairing yes has it's good moments but continually fails to deliiver quality distribution, timely service and the creativity required to unlock the full potential of our outside backs. Albeit against Fiji, the beauty of the ALB/Proctor combo was in its simplicity and fearlessness - no nonsense crashball from ALB coupled with Proctors daring odd-ball play resulting in a dangerous and unpredictable picture for the opposition defence. It is the style of rugby that is in our DNA and which properly resonates with kiwis. Also a mention too of Reece and Telea's poor form. One if not both need to go (though I can only realistically see one going). There are three other deserving wings that are in form at the moment - Narawa, Tavatavanawai and Kini Naholo. Razor has often bought up the necessity for "versatility" in the playing group and currently has two underperforming specialist wingers. Narawa is currently demonstrating his playmaking at centre for BOP in the NPC so of course can now cover three positions (wing, fullback, centre). Tavatavanawai also can play both wing and centre too. I hope Razor has the sense to reward the brilliant form shown by these players.
I can’t understand why you’d roll out your least experience players off the bench to close out a game that’s in the balance and don’t have the time on the clock to make mistakes . Wouldn’t you start them where they have time and mistakes can be caught up on the score board .. and then bring experience on who are used to the pressure and less likely to make mistakes to close the last 20 out .
I have to say that is highly unlikely. While the ABs are rebuilding and will take another year or two to be at full potential the Wallabies have serious problems with depth. When the two props came off against Argentina the Pumas literally tore them apart. They went through James Slipper like a wet paper bag and he is coming up to becoming the most capped player in Australian history. In all 5 top rugby countries he would not have had a career at test level. The depth isn't there at the moment. It would be great if Joe builds it back up and Australia become a major force once more but right now my prediction is - the Aussies will hang on for a "decent" loss in Sydney and get smashed in Wellington. The only other possibility is that the Aussies also get smashed in Sydney, I doubt it but it's definitely a possible scenario. The only reason I say that is that the ABs are not yet seasoned finishers. They are leaving points on the field but that won't last forever.
Lest be brutally honest. If We do lose against aussie on Saturday. Razor must go!!! Because the great all black legacy has been disgraced by his lacklustre results
Pumas smashed aussies. How can all blacks lose ?😂😂😂. All blacks played close games vs boks and aussies are poor team vs all blacks. All blacks will destroy them.
@@DwayneTate-p3i yep, time. Tides and moons. We're not going to win everything and there is no silver bullet. Let's support these guys as they go up against very good competition. We'll lose some, so be it.
Seems repetitive to me - probably we need a 10 that can actually get the backs going properly with consistent passing . Otherwise the northern tour teams will be licking there lips.
Hahaha Razor must go, bring back foz if we lose get your pitch forks string him up. Gee's what weak toxic supporters. Embarassing. Let's go Razor best of luck today ABs forever Win or Lose.
To b honest losing my zest for ab's.not sure on razor.same xcuses each test we lose.not finishing in latter stages.cane and tj still being picked after boks test.why.they not here by end of yr.razors record.4 wins out of 7 tests.lost the freedom cup,first time in 15yrs😂lost rugby championship,lost to argies for second time in nz😂argies put their biggest score on us in history also.😂first time in 25yrs we havent scored a try against a boks team.😂sacked his assistant coach after 5 test hence the payout😂😂
You want to try seeing it from an Irish supporter's perspective and that elusive; getting past the quarter-finals of every frikn RWC that there ever was,😉🤣ffsks! Yet I fully understand your present frustrations and sense that, as a New Zealander, you are not alone in your "ire". The stubborn use of players constantly being selected out of their specialist roles is hard to understand, plus selecting Reece at all. Reece is no doubt great at practice and is superb at Super Rugby, but up against the big fish he is not, imo. Leon's leaving the coaching team, before going to SA, has done no good, least of all for player morale, no matter the bs at glossing it over.
He has a lot of debutants in the team - replace TJ and Cane and you have even less experience. I would have to say that the losses would be even worse. Somewhere someone has to acknowledge that the ABs are coming off 15 years of having the best players in the world and they don't have that luxury currently. They're going to have to build that talent pool back up and to just assume that another coach will cruise in and win with a group of debutants and a weakened talent pool is wishful thinking. This will just create more chaos and confusion and only make the rebuilding process much longer. Stick with Scott Robertson and give him the support he deserves and I reckon the ABs will be fearsome within 2 years. Ditch him and you're looking at at least 6 years of problems as another coach comes in and also doesn't get results, you going to fire him too? We've seen various scenarios where rugby unions have kept firing their coaches for not performing and its taken years and years for them to recover.
@@KernowekTim I agree about playing players out of position - it has to stop, it is not working. And yeah Sevu Reece is just not a threat at that level. He is a major threat when he gets space but all the defensive systems have figured that out about the ABs and their space is being shut down very effectively. I think they need to go back to their giant winger formula. I think it would work in the current environment.
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Old Irish supporter: For the first time in over fifty years it pains me to say that I've less than minimal interest in this year's Bledisloe Cup. It's pointless me going into it deeper than that, other than to give yous some hint as to why I think the craic there is as flat as a witches tit, for me: The stubborn insistance to continually play Reiko Ioane and Ardie Savea out of position, when there are men in the squad who are specialists in those two respective positions. And it doesn't stop with those two players, again, in my opinion...Anyroadup, It's the Springbok vs Pumas clash that whets my interest. The best rugby side on the planet vs the 'Great up-setters'. C'mon the Springboks!🏴☠☘👍. God bless, to all.
Yeh too much complacency, the All black legacy is being ruined with scott Robinson, Rieko ione jordie Barret etc theyre to skinny they aint breaking no tackles, too much skinny guys in the back line, theres tennis players in the back line 90 kg 6'1-6'3 guys in the back line, thats a major weakness wait and see
If we lose the first game against Aus then there will be some serious head scratching for Nz rugby. Lose both and that would draw the line for razor. I think majority of our fans including myself would lose all hope in our future if we lose that bledisloe cup
So frustrating hearing Razor talk about not converting attacking opportunities into tries. The fact is, it is an indicator of the conservative selection policy he's implemented, especially in the midfield. The Jordie/Rieko pairing yes has it's good moments but continually fails to deliiver quality distribution, timely service and the creativity required to unlock the full potential of our outside backs. Albeit against Fiji, the beauty of the ALB/Proctor combo was in its simplicity and fearlessness - no nonsense crashball from ALB coupled with Proctors daring odd-ball play resulting in a dangerous and unpredictable picture for the opposition defence. It is the style of rugby that is in our DNA and which properly resonates with kiwis.
Also a mention too of Reece and Telea's poor form. One if not both need to go (though I can only realistically see one going). There are three other deserving wings that are in form at the moment - Narawa, Tavatavanawai and Kini Naholo. Razor has often bought up the necessity for "versatility" in the playing group and currently has two underperforming specialist wingers. Narawa is currently demonstrating his playmaking at centre for BOP in the NPC so of course can now cover three positions (wing, fullback, centre). Tavatavanawai also can play both wing and centre too. I hope Razor has the sense to reward the brilliant form shown by these players.
Go Aussie!
I can’t understand why you’d roll out your least experience players off the bench to close out a game that’s in the balance and don’t have the time on the clock to make mistakes . Wouldn’t you start them where they have time and mistakes can be caught up on the score board .. and then bring experience on who are used to the pressure and less likely to make mistakes to close the last 20 out .
Australia gonna cause an upset
There's more chance of you having a sore stomach to cause an upset in your undies than the Wobblies beating the ABs.😂
@@rogue_luko😂😂😂😂😂
@@rogue_luko 😂
@@rogue_luko 🤣🤣... a great weekend of 🏉 on the horizon... Enjoy
I have to say that is highly unlikely. While the ABs are rebuilding and will take another year or two to be at full potential the Wallabies have serious problems with depth. When the two props came off against Argentina the Pumas literally tore them apart. They went through James Slipper like a wet paper bag and he is coming up to becoming the most capped player in Australian history. In all 5 top rugby countries he would not have had a career at test level. The depth isn't there at the moment. It would be great if Joe builds it back up and Australia become a major force once more but right now my prediction is - the Aussies will hang on for a "decent" loss in Sydney and get smashed in Wellington. The only other possibility is that the Aussies also get smashed in Sydney, I doubt it but it's definitely a possible scenario. The only reason I say that is that the ABs are not yet seasoned finishers. They are leaving points on the field but that won't last forever.
Lest be brutally honest. If We do lose against aussie on Saturday. Razor must go!!! Because the great all black legacy has been disgraced by his lacklustre results
Pumas smashed aussies. How can all blacks lose ?😂😂😂.
All blacks played close games vs boks and aussies are poor team vs all blacks.
All blacks will destroy them.
All blacks will trash them.
Patience, patience young Jedi. There's plenty to like about this AB's. It'll all come together!
Chill dude. In one year you will see.
@@DwayneTate-p3i yep, time. Tides and moons. We're not going to win everything and there is no silver bullet. Let's support these guys as they go up against very good competition. We'll lose some, so be it.
Seems repetitive to me - probably we need a 10 that can actually get the backs going properly with consistent passing . Otherwise the northern tour teams will be licking there lips.
Hopefully if the ABs get the win Razor will be more adventurous in the selections for the next game.
Bledisloe Cup, Bledisloe cup, bledisloe cup. Is there a more one sided and boring cup in world rugby?
Let’s be honest the Aussie don’t have what it takes . I think it will be painful for Aus
Yes unfortunately true we have no real leaders and none of the spirited do or die attitude...like years past...Loliseo is a real dud
Will not be surprised if aussie are leading at half time but doubt they can sustain it for 80
Cooked
If tosi has opportunity , why Razor doesnt give their opportunity to Bell, Hotham, Proctor ?
Stop with Aumua , perenara , ALB, reece !
New coach time already, and definitely if we lose to Australia right????
Wana c hotham. Hes quick and doesent get charged down
Aussie aussie aussie the kiwis are in town. Hope they dont ridicule razor like poor fozzie when they lose..? What a fickle kiwi lot.😂😂😂😂
Pumas smashed aussies with more 60 pts...imagine vs all blacks 😂😂😂
Pumas beat allblacks mate
😂😂😂😂
They are gonna beat the Aussies by a long way coming from a Bok fan
I can tell that the boys don't seem to be in the game half the time major problem for you to razor
Hahaha Razor must go, bring back foz if we lose get your pitch forks string him up. Gee's what weak toxic supporters. Embarassing. Let's go Razor best of luck today ABs forever Win or Lose.
AB fans still living in 2011-2015 era.
To b honest losing my zest for ab's.not sure on razor.same xcuses each test we lose.not finishing in latter stages.cane and tj still being picked after boks test.why.they not here by end of yr.razors record.4 wins out of 7 tests.lost the freedom cup,first time in 15yrs😂lost rugby championship,lost to argies for second time in nz😂argies put their biggest score on us in history also.😂first time in 25yrs we havent scored a try against a boks team.😂sacked his assistant coach after 5 test hence the payout😂😂
You want to try seeing it from an Irish supporter's perspective and that elusive; getting past the quarter-finals of every frikn RWC that there ever was,😉🤣ffsks! Yet I fully understand your present frustrations and sense that, as a New Zealander, you are not alone in your "ire". The stubborn use of players constantly being selected out of their specialist roles is hard to understand, plus selecting Reece at all. Reece is no doubt great at practice and is superb at Super Rugby, but up against the big fish he is not, imo. Leon's leaving the coaching team, before going to SA, has done no good, least of all for player morale, no matter the bs at glossing it over.
He has a lot of debutants in the team - replace TJ and Cane and you have even less experience. I would have to say that the losses would be even worse. Somewhere someone has to acknowledge that the ABs are coming off 15 years of having the best players in the world and they don't have that luxury currently. They're going to have to build that talent pool back up and to just assume that another coach will cruise in and win with a group of debutants and a weakened talent pool is wishful thinking. This will just create more chaos and confusion and only make the rebuilding process much longer. Stick with Scott Robertson and give him the support he deserves and I reckon the ABs will be fearsome within 2 years. Ditch him and you're looking at at least 6 years of problems as another coach comes in and also doesn't get results, you going to fire him too? We've seen various scenarios where rugby unions have kept firing their coaches for not performing and its taken years and years for them to recover.
@@KernowekTim I agree about playing players out of position - it has to stop, it is not working. And yeah Sevu Reece is just not a threat at that level. He is a major threat when he gets space but all the defensive systems have figured that out about the ABs and their space is being shut down very effectively. I think they need to go back to their giant winger formula. I think it would work in the current environment.