Portland biking gets some help from big data - Detours S. 2 Ep. 7

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  • Portland is improving city biking with the help of Strava, a fitness app. But are the app's users biasing city planning?
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  • @afterpanic1429
    @afterpanic1429 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This entire season on Detours is awesome !

  • @MarshallSteeves
    @MarshallSteeves 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Portland's finally getting some attention!

  • @nbalagopal
    @nbalagopal 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was hoping to see some details on how they use the data to improve the city. This video doesn't seem to add anything to its own preview version.

    • @brusselmkg
      @brusselmkg 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is some information here that you might find interesting : wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Strava
      data.glasgow.gov.uk/lv/dataset/journey-statistics-by-cyclists-who-use-strava (The data points used to heat the map were between 2013-01-01 to 2013-12-31 )
      bikeportland.org/2014/04/30/a-closer-look-at-stravas-heat-map-for-the-portland-region-105280

    • @bretatvs
      @bretatvs 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I agree, the video went no where from the first initial explanation.

  • @MrVeloiBike
    @MrVeloiBike 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Go Portland!

  • @tiagocastro2827
    @tiagocastro2827 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great example of how we can benefit from big data to improve our lives

  • @FerMartin
    @FerMartin 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nicely done, good job!

  • @EtiennePlaneix
    @EtiennePlaneix 10 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Just look at the Netherlands, you will find many answers there.

    • @TheTimvdh
      @TheTimvdh 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes, thats so right

    • @stijndries7832
      @stijndries7832 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, Netherlands!

    • @MrInk113
      @MrInk113 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      The land of the billion bikes :D

    • @BlueBetaPro
      @BlueBetaPro 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And Denmark.

  • @Johnyboy775
    @Johnyboy775 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The argument that Strava has 50% commuters, therefore all economic classes are (mostly) represented is a falacy. Smartphone penetration levels are far from 100% of the population and they show a disparity between the rich and the poor. Since Strava needs this device to allow the loging of rides, their is an initial economic barrier to the use of the product that the very poor cannot pass.

    • @Zhiloreznik
      @Zhiloreznik 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well having a bike is a barrier to entry. Actually wanting to ride a bike is a barrier to entry. Living in a city is a barrier to entry. Being a human is a barrier to entry. You do not need 100% of the people using the thing to get good data. No one has perfect data but Strava data is way better then no data. Also making an inference to that old tired wealth disparity argument is unnecessary.

    • @radone97
      @radone97 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is a fair point and it is one that is touched on in such a more meaningful way in The Verge Detours episode set in Kansas City about Google Fiber. Just because the bike app technology is there does not mean there is also a representative sample of those who might be biking and also might have smartphones and also might be interested in tracking their bike routes for commutes more so than health and fitness purposes. Giving the Strava exec voice at the end about so-called mythbusting is super disappointing. It is a fair point: who is going to benefit most? Is it the woman who works for ODoT, her friends and users of Strava? Probably. Are there those who will be hurt by it. YES. By dedicating the resources to the "Good" by way of the argument "Let's not let the 'Perfect' be the enemy of the 'Good'" is just such a tremendously irresponsible thing for a public servant to say.

  • @eSKAone-
    @eSKAone- 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice track at the end :) Name?

  • @bryanbeh
    @bryanbeh 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish more people around the world rode bicycles.

  • @TheTimvdh
    @TheTimvdh 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    people who live in the USA,
    I just want to point out the fact that your infrastructure is worthless , it is old and dilapidated and anything but safe . but come to the Netherlands and see how to build roads, cycle paths , railways , bridges, stations .
    a look at this : America is so great and modern? I still think not so do something about it .
    Exploderende olietreinen in de VS
    and in my city light a vast network of dedicated bike paths , you can still learn from . look , here everything comes together :
    Spoorzone Helmond
    you're welcome and sucses with the development of your 2nd world country.

  • @landyrane
    @landyrane 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ore-gone - anyone else here it?

    • @chris.dillon
      @chris.dillon 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard it. He's from SF. :P Did you say "here" on purpose? :D
      Btw, it's ore-e-gun for anyone out there. ;)

  • @GoodFriendsForever
    @GoodFriendsForever 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wished I lived in a bike friendly city. In houston its too damn hot and everyone drives a car

  • @Zhiloreznik
    @Zhiloreznik 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why would you use use Strava for commuting? You are not going to get much KOMs on your trusted steel city racer :)

  • @meKevinWalsh
    @meKevinWalsh 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not look at all cell phones to get bike data? I understand that Google buys anonymized location data of cell phones in order to populate its traffic conditions on Google Maps. It seems relatively simple to construct behavior profiles (acceleration, speed, location) to identify which phones are being carried by bikes and use that data instead of using a subset of people that use a particular app. Can someone check my logic on that?

  • @MariyanZarev
    @MariyanZarev 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    If 50% are commuters then why don't you have any challenges for the people that do not go on 150+ mile rides or do not climb mountains?

  • @EBTSarge
    @EBTSarge 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I used to ride bikes a lot when I was a kid, then I grew up and got a car.

  • @excitizen
    @excitizen 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    i thought it was Big Data

  • @skilmer
    @skilmer 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    orygone

  • @DominicLondon
    @DominicLondon 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cycling not biking!

    • @JasonSolomon1990
      @JasonSolomon1990 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      whats the difference?

    • @DominicLondon
      @DominicLondon 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jason Solomon Biking is a stupid word when cycling sounds so much better.

    • @DominicLondon
      @DominicLondon 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Matthew Lyons Fair point, but in the UK we refer to it as cycling.

  • @zubair7487
    @zubair7487 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't care

  • @kartd0092661
    @kartd0092661 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    first