Nuno Espirito Santo reacts to strong Nottingham Forest statement amid frustration towards PGMOL
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Nottingham Forest manager Nuno Espirito Santo reacts to Nottingham Forest' strong statement amid frustration towards PGMOL.
This following their 2-0 defeat to Everton where the club feel they should have received 3 penalties.
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respect to all the Everton fans here that are saying nuno is right to call these refs out , you are true football fans
I'm an everton fan Tom and the standard of refereeing and var is a joke mate, we were very lucky today, good luck to forest👍
@@Antarmy2 im a red , but i will always call good good , and what you lot are saying is right and good that you do
@@tomfinney3416 go easy on us in the Derby tom😁 dreading it.
@@Antarmy2 do not get relegated , the derby match is special we need you to stay up
Well done to Nottingham Forest for calling this out,the standard of referee’s and VAR this season has been absolutely abysmal.Every club should follow,if nothing is done it will only continue to get worse,the game has become unwatchable at times this season because of the poor officiating.
but of course, Notts Forest will get panned for daring to speak such heresey. Week in week out we see managers biting their tongues for fear of being fined for daring to question the perfection that is VAR. FA Cup semi-finals - Coventry (played brilliantly) get awarded a penalty yet the day before, in exactly the same circumstances, Chelsea were denied. Its the interpretation and inconsistency that is pissing so many people off. It is ruining the game.
@footyfan1248 100%. Neville and Carragher sounded like politicians earlier on sky. Least Saha told the truth its an absolute shambles
I'm a Everton Fan and even I agree penalties.. teams need to start walking off the pitch. Clubs are in charge clubs generate the wealth. They need to start coming together and standing up against the PGMOL
well said toffee from a red
Neutral, all three were definitely pens. How not even ONE was given is insane.
The VAR official was a Luton fan and the club petitioned prior to the game to change it… and they refused. You can’t make up that level of corruption.
Because they have to save Everton , they deduct points from them , but try hard to keep them in the league, cause if they fall to championship it will be big roar , that they where deducted but ones like Chelsea and Man City mainly were untouched
@@majkelinho4444forest were also deducted points
@@majkelinho4444 🤣🤪
Cheers, it's f-ing obvious to anybody outside of Everton fans today how corrupt it is
I’m an Everton fan, and we’ve had a ton of very questionable decisions against us. But everybody knows however if we were playing Man City they would have been awarded 3 penalties no question
As a City fan. You’re absolutely correct. IMO, the referees do take into account not only the occasion but the club. The sad fact is anyone who is objective and true knows Nott’m Forest should’ve had at least 1 penalty.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@ACsPianoCorner You are not a City fan at all if your lying about the club like that.
exactly, i remember last season rodri literally handlers the ball to control it and nothing given it’s insane
@@iflgames3245so doku kung fu kick on Diaz wasn’t a pen??
As an Everton fan, I'm relieved. 2 clear pens, 1 debatable, I do feel for Forest. All I can say is we've been on the receiving end all season and its about time we got a bit of luck. But not because of incompetence bordering on criminal and at the expense of another club fighting for survival.
I’m actually starting to believe there’s corruption with all these dodgy decisions
100%
I’m a Wolves fan lol so I’ve been seeing this corruption since game day 1
@@Chaz474You lot suffered the worst.... 😂😂😂😂😂
I’ve been saying this for a while. It’s easy to pick on the smaller teams. Get them to deduct points. Nothing is happening to Man City 115 so called charges.
@@jaysenjohn304 yeah because everyone knows the people forget quickly about smaller teams, but if it was liverpool, city etc not a chance
Outrageous, all 3 were penalties - Ashley Young's face after each one gave it away, he knew he got away with a few there!
As a Derby fan, these are definitely penalties, not for the first time either, I would hate to watch football with VAR live, especially watching Coventry today celebrating then losing on Penalties, crazy 😮
Cheers, Coventry robbed so hard.
This is the probably the best opportunity for other clubs to join in and support NFFC claims. PGMOL and VAR are shite. Needs a whole scale overhaul
No.
It's not a question of quality and making mistakes.
If it was other clubs could get involved as you say to push for reform and improvement.
But Forest have now accused the VAR official & PGMOL of match fixing.
Forest need to back that up with evidence so there can be a proper Police investigation.
If they can't, they stand alone in taking punishment for undermining the integrity of the game.
@@M-E_123Luton and nottingham are directly competing for safety. Stuart atwell was in VAR today and he is openly a luton fan. That means there is bias with his decision making. If there is bias in his decisio making then the match isn’t fair. It quite literally becomes a 12vs11. Is that not enough proof
@xnlyxn9862 Luton, Forest and Everton were directly competing for relegation.
I haven't seen any explanation for why fixing the game for Everton to win, instead of Forest or a draw (especially when giving those penalties would have led to cards, sending off, suspensions, which could affect other games Everton will play).
And I haven't seen any evidence he's a Luton fan.
If Forest believes that the match has been fixed, they need to stop messing around and make a complaint to the police.
Not just post threatening statements on twitter throwing out accusations.
When somebody like Nuno makes these claims, they have to be taken seriously. I have so much respect for him as a man and coach. As a Villa fan, Anthony Taylor has always been a shocking referee, Stuart Atwell worse, but then so is the standard of English referees. The PL should seriously consider bringing in foreign refs until a decent standard can be re-established. Good luck, Forest. You'll need it.
VAR and PGMOL are either corrupt or not fit for purpose. What needs to happen is the clubs need to call them out and threaten the league if it’s allowed to carry on. Bent as 9 bob notes the lot of them
Just watch Webb and that puppy Owen’s show, he can’t even be truthful after the fact
@@Youafool500 I know, absolute disgrace and they are damaging the people’s game. Imagine if the fans said no enough is enough and boycotted a match weekend! Maybe then they would listen. I’m sick and tired of corruption everywhere and don’t want in football. Garry Neville should be fired for what he said on Sly Sports yesterday.
If Jamie Carragher is your poster boy for "Classiness", you need to reassess your life choices.
Facts
Yeah. Him gossin out the car window. Class
Absolutely bang on!
Fair play to Forest. These corrupt PGMOL officials need to be stopped. Football is dead. Fans need to boycott games.
All 3 you can say penalty the fact not even one was given is disgraceful 🤦♀️
Is there a more blatently corrupt job done on a team this season? A Luton fan was VAR ref and waved off three stone wall penalties including one that woulda been a straight red to help keep his side in the division! You can’t make this corruption up! 🎉🎉🎉
I'm a neutral and a certified USSF referee, only the last one was a "stone wall" penalty. The first one would have been a bit soft and the second one is 50/50 imho.
That last one, though, quite egregious....terrible non-call...
@@mydancinglife730As a certified ref, tell me what the odds of a ref making all 3 calls against a certain team. While you are at that, explain why Michael Oliver didn't go to his monitor to review the handball incident in the man city and Chelsea game last night 🤣.
Can you tell me what difference it makes that it was a Luton fan in VAR because im struggling to see one. I am an everton fan and you should of had 2 penalties but surely a luton fan wants a draw from this game or even a forest win?
How are "Fans" of ANY team given the responsibility of making VAR decisions ? It's bad enough having current referees with club bias's, it's makes it impossible to be neutral
Just saw the highlights, can understand why they’re not happy, then I realised the referee was Anthony Taylor, the biggest incompetent in world football
And a luton fan 😂🤦♀️ forest found out days previously amd complained to get him off var and the Premier league didn't care, and then this so corrupt. You could forgive the 1 pen. But 3 is just so blatant.
Good on Forest.. villa fan here... Im having good season but i know how some clubs get treated... Its about time something got said... Surely a nice new stadium like Everton's can't be unveiled in the EFL? Just saying..
Who ever is signing off on these two episodes of points deductions doesn't think so. More broadly there is a problem across the board with penalties and VAR. Not just Everton and the stadium. That's rubbish!
everton have been on the wrong end of var since it came in ffs, btw you'll be back in the EFL when emery goes to utd
@@lennon1482 Everton have a lot of problems that won't be fixed overnight but they won't be going down this year! Have a look at the NF Tweet today. I have never read anything like it! The best stadium in The Premiership is waiting.
Sky is part of the reason football is here. Never calling out crap refs like Oliver and Taylor.
Luton fan here, can only applaud him for speaking out, so many bad decisions have gone to benefit certain top teams this season, with var it's inexcusable! As much as I am glad with this result, I do feel your pain!
Outrageous reffing,VAR not worth a w_nk ,
The game is gone, the league we fell in love with has been sold, too bad
I hate football now it’s been taken over by women as well it’s done forget about it now the game will
Never be the same hate this world hate football
@@Jim-on6zu hahaha sound like me capitalism its all well and good but without regulation and competition (sky or tnt thats it) you get what football has turned into.
@@nffclaceyThen support a team in the National league or lower
There is football outside the PL the EFL,National league, National league North and South, regional leagues
My wife's boyfriend said they were definitely pens.
Bra
Hey! Did I tell you to use youtube? Now your wife is gonna be mad at me for letting you use the wifi. Go back to the van.
Yeah. I say the most ridiculous things after my girlfriend makes me a super sandwich
Yeah, my Dad's boyfriend said that too
welshhibby - what does your girlfriend's husband think?
Forest and Everton- both clubs have had points taken away from them this season...Man City with I think 115 charges against them ZERO so far and still being investigated by whomever ...does not seem right to me, looks like the fix is in Man City way too big to fail maybe
not to say Chelsea spend like 600 mill and still no charges
Whenever you make comments like this you expose how low your IQ is. Why not try and do some reading at least to find out instead of ranting on TH-cam about 115 every weekend.
The guy who did the VAR also scored the garcia fight 112-112
😂😂😂😂
People have had a enough
All football fans support Nottingham forest but match fixing in the PL is almost impossible to stop. Money is power unfortunately
Not all football fans!
Some fans remember how forest got to the PL via corrupt refereeing...
@@fionadelahunty369 ? really never got that impression when we went up
Nuno is a class manager..
Spoke with honuur and integrity 👏🏿
A Luton fan as a var official in Forrset relegation battle game..😮😑🤐🤔🙄dodgy!!!
someone made the decision to say yes its ok to appoint a Luton fan as a var official in this game...100% FIX Corruption
I can't see that points deduction appeal going too well after putting out a statement essentially calling VAR officials cheats. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if they now found another reason to charge them.
Finally a club with Cojones!
Wolves have done it many times this season, nobody listens….
Possibly the worst standards in refereeing and decisions in years this season. Not only in the Premier League
Forest fan here... Don't ignore the fact we were shite....
Eyes don't lie, sadly your right!
In football you can be shite and still win. If there'd 3 penalties youre deserved, then that's 3 good chances to get away with one.
Being shite doesn't negate three penalty decisions that should have gone your way.
Not all forest fans are shite. I’m not
Sorry if we don’t play like Liverpool. Forest till I die.
The interviewer is determined to wind him up,shes lousy im afraid
She is terrible
Be careful, you might end up with riot police kicking your door down
Pathetic
Now you know how we feel. 💙
We’ve had it all season mate
@@Woodsy2 we've had it since var came in
Cheating is cheating don't you want a fair game or just other teams to get robbed because your team has been robbed.
Its all rigged, and gary neville calling forest disgusting for the tweet just shows hes a snake
Twitter admin starting World Var III
Well done 👏🏻
You win this comment thread
With city avoiding punishment and the awful standard of referees we have today the premier league is seeming more and more corrupt. Bring on the super league, football is dying 🤦♂️
look back at the home game versus Burnley then, Forest!! And the Burnley goal disallowed that went in YOUR FAVOUR!! Selective memory as usual.
A true gentleman & a genuine guy Nuno. Wish he and NFC stay up.
Can you ask him what his plan was when our midfield was being completely dominated and what he did to do this? Yes they were pens and yes they were hard done by but the club, PGMOL and sky sports should stop creating this narrative. I miss the days when football was a game.
We need a regulatory committee for the PGMOL,any governing body that is not held accountable for its actions are a dictatorship and it should not be allowed in a massive game like football. It is an absolute disgrace.
Heartfelt interviewer, what is her name?
As a Wolves fan I can completely get what Forest and a few other clubs(including ourselves) are up against. My overriding sentiment is scrap VAR until it’s better developed and fit for purpose. At the moments it’s far from that.
So Nottingham complained about the VAR ref being a opposition fan. And then 3 blatant pens...WOW
im an everton fan. but im with forest with this one at least 2 should have been given
Reyna's wasn't a pen
Am i the only one that finds the interviewers voice is so calming to listen to?
Ashley Young's touches were not heavy and the hand was not intentional.
Most annoying are the too soft penalties. Modern football is so fast that you can't penalise every minor "kick" or the ball touching unintentionally an arm. Otherwise the games will be all about "penalty shoot-outs".
100%. None of them are even talking points 15-20 years ago. Overanalysing every single decision sucks the joy out the game
Eliminate VAR. We have the same controversies we had before VAR. So what is the point? At least the referees had the excuse that they couldn't see the plays again. So what is the excuse for VAR f...ups? Corruption.
That's always been my point about VAR. It's like you're being shafted twice every time a bad decision goes against you.
the VAR operators don't want to criticise the ref because the ref becomes less credible if he criticised
These VAR guys are just hopeless.
Remember liverpool vs Tottenham game, liverpool vs Arsenal game, liverpool vs Man city game. Just too poor to say the least. It costed liverpool a number of points and only refeerers giving apologies when a team has lost of colossal points to win a league title. Nottingham can be relegated with a single point when they a supposed to survive with 2 points. It's a shame. Refeerers need to change their attitudes, not just because they are highly protected. Replays must be introduced if a team has lost because of bad officiating
Forest really are up against it. I would be fuming if I was a forest fan. As football fans we cant sit back and allow such things to continue. Its an absolute disgrace.
First of all well done Everton. Showed class and got the rub of the green. Been a tough season as a Forest fan genuinely feels like we have been slapped with decisions every other game.
Young's first nibble was near identical to the one on DCL at Bournemouth, which wasn’t given and should have been, the handball was near identical to Michael Keane's at Anfield, which was given - correctly according to the appalling rules, wrongly if you’re a traditionalist - and the Odoi one was clumsy and while I can’t slate the ref for not seeing it in real time it should have been picked up by VAR who must have been on a smoke break or having a shite or something. I genuinely sympathise with Forest 💙
Why would he be angry at Ashley Young tho?
Bring back the Anglo Italian Cup. Forest should be competing in that next season
We're with you Nottingham Forest. These refs and VAR officials aren't infallible and need to be held accountable for their actions
An Everton fan here and along with Forest we've suffered from horrendous descions so I get the frustration but if yhe corruption didn't exist within the whole top 6 PL Dick Masters and the PGMOL all so they can have the best chance of success, to scrap replays only to please teams in Europe the whole system is fukd..!!
Was at the game as a toffee but he’s right! It happens to Everton most weeks but that doesn’t excuse the shocking way the Prem is wrong in almost every respect.
EFC & NFFC should never have accepted points deductions unless ALL teams were punished at the SAME time for pure fairness alone
Hope we both stay up
Pgmol and var are a disgrace to best league in the world.3 clear cut penalties there(efc fan)
You’re not Man City. The PGMOL and FA won’t let Forest get away with challenging them.
Why does the premier league not want Nottingham Forest there? It seems a fair question because they certainly seem to be doing everything possible with the officiating on the pitch to help them go back down. I'd love to know what the club has done to piss them off so much. The bias against Forest is so transparent. It's sad to see; for the cub, the supporters, the city and not least of all for football.
The straw that broke the camel's back. Kudos to NES and Forest for having the courage and actually standing up for themselves. The system is failing the lesser elite big-name teams such as them and Everton to name a few who keep getting constantly cheated out of decisions which go only the way of the Big 6. The apologies are thin and it is clear as crystal that this is corruption against the lesser big name clubs in the Premier League.
The integrity of this division and the officiating, decision making and lack of accountability by the referees in charge of matches in this division is simply embarrassing. If referees like Mike Dean, Anthony Taylor and Paul Tierney did their jobs properly and did them in a 50/50 manner instead of a 90 against 10, they wouldn't be subjected to some much hate and abuse, but they simply do not learn and this is why they get abused.
Well done Forest 👏 ... Corrupt PGMOL rightly needs to GO 💯 ..
When their is no accountability, you can do what you like (VAR)
When the stakes are so high and people are paid as professionals, everything need to be fair.
They are more concerned about the tweet, than PGMOL that's bringing the game into disrepute.
Forest didn't play well enough. Kicking the ball full pelt at an opponent from 1 foot away and it striking their arm isn't handball.
Except when it happened to Wan Bisakka two hours later, and was given.😂😂😂😂😂
Don't worry Utd and Liverpool pundits will be along to tell you everything is all right with var.
Add in the handball decision on Saturday City v Chelsea. It seemed like a pen, but it definitely touched him, so why was a corner not given? The rules need clarification and it seems like referees are not the best people to be in charge of VAR. What a mess!
The first pen decision is 50/50. i think its a pen but VAR not overruling the decision made on the field isn't that unusual. The other 2 were awful and should 100% be asking the ref to take another look at it.
Is this interviewer tryna wind him up or what 😑who are these people
Its sky never ask a decent question no insight, journalism from the likes off the bbc sky itv mainstream media died along time ago
If you watch most championship games, the refereeing sub-standard seems as if it's deliberate so they can bring VAR into that and all football eventually.
Been going on all year.... certain clubs get the decisions there way especially the top six or the richest....
It's nuts if Attwell is a Luton fan and in charge of VAR for this match. It's like when Michael Oliver was reffing matches that decided top 4 last season. Ridiculous
All the decisions going for City....and against Forest. Next week's Forest v City game should be fun....
Everyone complains about VAR but not some of the worse things
He's a good man,,,he was great at wolves,,,I hope forest stay up,,,,VAR is so bad for the game and is open to abuse and or incompetency !
After watching the FA Cup semi today. Coventry fans should Question the VAR decission.
Could John Textor be right in his assumptions???? Damnnnnn!
The statement is correct
Everton fan here, at least two of those penalties should definitely have been given, possibly all three, been a strange strange season, there has been games were so many decisions went against us an it seems like an agenda, today it looked like that against forest
the level of corruption is insanity 2 of 3 were clear pens the one was borderline but they have been given for less if this was man city they’d be given ever single penalty
First arsenal then wolves then liverpool then chelsea and now nottingham. Its now effecting the title race, cup competitions and relegation.
Neville trying to defend VAR is embarrassing, must be on the payroll, Saha was right, that statement has to be put on social media because people need to start holding VAR accountable, Neville trying to say, the way it should be done is the manager should just say a few words after the match and "embarrass" VAR that way, nothing happens
What should happen is the VAR official should have to do a post match interview, with a monitor, and talk through each VAR decision they had made during the game, they should have to explain why they made that decision, if VAR refs know that that's what they'll have to do if they make dodgy decisions you'll start seeing alot more accurate one's
Worse Refereing in this League "Premiere League"
referees can cost clubs millions with wrong decisions , they should not have the final say , esp if they are wrong , managers are right to protest bad reffing decisions , it can affect their future , but to complain sees managers penalised that is wrong
Problem we have here, is forest will probably get punished for this while the Ref and VAR officials continue without any punishment or investigation the into why a Luton fan was in VAR for this game.
Well done Nottingham Forrest , the standard of refereeing is disgusting , the offside against Liverpool especially, and how nothing has been done after that considering teams are in a title charge and could finish on equal points is ridiculous
Sack the women asking questions
It looks they want Luton to stay up from what I'm seeing or burnly
The club's should've come together after the Spurs v Liverpool PGMOL debacle. They'd f'cked up big time & if the clubs had gone after them then, we might have changed things but typically things went tribal & the opportunity was lost.
About time. If Chelsea owners and Poch had anything about them or actually cared they'll send in a complaint along with Liverpool and Arsenal.
Giving Everton some relief for taking the points cut..should also hope ManCity don't win the League title and cut them 50pts and the much needed break Pep wants for his team
I do not get why there is such a backlash against Nottingham Forest for speaking their mind? Are PGMOL the IDF or something? can no one say anything against them without these dirty tricks?
ENGLISH PREMIER LEAGUE IS FINISHED NOW. THERE ARE NO MORE STANDARD LIKLE BEFORE. ALL THE VAR AND REFEREES ARE BOUGHT BY BIGGER TEAM...
I still say again like before,the person who came up with this Var drama destroyed the game by at least 65% because it’s a human being behind the camera and can make any decision based on his mind in case he’s got any bias against any team. He’s still the same person who tells the referee that no need to check
It is sad to see good managers looking so disappointed not at his teams performance or result but at decisions by the referee that have decided a game 😢
there needs to be a independent inquiry into corruption
If Forrest go down without the point deductions the Premier League won't have to deal with further legal appeals.
The same moron pundits who are saying this is disgraceful are the same as commentators who see a punch up and say "these aren't scene we want to see" when in reality all fans are loving it.
Forest are totally right here and it's nice that Everton fans are supporting them
Ive lost count of the bad decisions weve had against us this season, we lost point's in a few games due to blatent offsides and pens not given. Im an evertonian by the way.
Doesn’t surprise me at all. They gave Liverpool the ball back in the 99th minute from a deadball that was ours and we just kick it upfield for a draw… but it wouldnt suit the run in and the hype of the title race would it. We had Boly produce an outstanding challenge and get a straight red in Nunos first game. It’s unreal. Minimum 6pts dropped just from refs if we are being generous.