Doesn't matter much. From here it's clear which is stronger, that's the purpose. In practice, almost nobody would just stand doing nothing while being blasted by the blue gas. Dvalin would be quick to fall, either way, so any shield should do.
Keep in mind, when layla gets all 4 stars on her shield, its fortified with 24% shield strength and thats just one of her passives. Its a mini zhongli shield, albeit without the pure damage resistance from all sources but still a damn good shield
Keep in mind it would be much harder to reach that amount of hp with Diona than it would with Layla or Zhong. Diona’s shield is like paper compared to Layla’s
But she has heal! and bow! I like archers they can reach far-away places I'd love to have an archer in every team also someone who can cut trees. like layla. but also bow characters hehe
@@relax2413 News flash: Layla is a 4 star while Zhongli is not just a 5 star, but also an archon. Of course his shield will be better. However, Layla is the next best shielder after him, and she’s the best shielder in freeze teams (if you don’t care about heals which personally I wouldn’t since Layla shield + freeze is enough to survive)
As a ganyu main without zhongli, Layla is better than diona, her cryo application makes so that you always get 15% crit rate from the resonance and gives ganyu charge attack buff at c4
ganyu alone can handle the cryo application by herself, she apply a ton of cryo with her CA, burst and e, but yea layla can be better than diona if u can maintain the shield and freeze time, morgana doesnt need that much healing and ganyu burst doesnt cost that much, layla can be a shielderx sub dps, ganyu with 20% cryo dmg bonus from her burst can help layla deals more dmg
@@ribish6036 1. if u running hama then go for melt, and slap all hp for layla 2. if u are playing freeze then craft prototype, ganyu burst is a must when play ganyu freeze, and hama
My thoughts on the whole Diona vs Layla situation is a different line of thinking. I've read most of the comments and yes, Zhongli and Diona are currently the best utility shielders in the game. BUT... the issues i have with both of these two is gameplay. Idk if its just me, but when you play Genshin enough you tend to run into either mechanical or server interruptions. Whether this is due to server ping or input during an enemy or environment interruption i'm not sure, but there is nothing worst holding E down and it not being registered as a hold E. This ruins gameplay and interrupts the gaming experience. That is why I generally hold both Thoma and Layla above Diona and C0 Zhongli any day of the week (except mono Geo teams). Just smoother gameplay. There is nothing more satisfying than tapping E and then Q and swapping characters. Yes they both have problems with stacking shield, especially Thoma, but that's a skill issue. It means i'm playing bad, that can be improved. When you hold E down and it doesn't register, for whatever reason, that can not be improved. This is why, i personally have both Zhongli and Diona benched. Maybe if I got Zhongli's constellation that turns it into a tap E, it would fix my issue with him. However, i don't see that as worthy investment compared to getting a brand new 5 star or 5 star dps constellations.
Ah yes, if you not used to doing it, any cases that provide bad network or not so supportive device will ruin your hold e diona. You can't directly hold e, should wait several times
Utility wise Diona C6 is better. Reduce stamina, EM boost and healer. Its just without sacrificial bow her shield isn't 100% up and you need ER for her. Her shield is also weaker but she has good particles from holding E. Layla has stronger shield and better cryo application and attack boost at c4. Plus lower ER so you can focus on HP more. Zhongli better utility overall, 100% shield uptime and his damage absorbtion is for all elements and physical damage so its very strong, has shred and his burst deals a lot of damage if build correctly (mine does around 100k as a burst support shielder). But he is a 5* I don't see the need for Layla since Diona already works really well for melt ganyu and my perma freeze team already keeps everything frozen in abyss. But for those who do not have a reliable shielder Layla is a good option especially at c4. Her shield is cryo shield though so keep in mind its stronger against cryo but weaker against pyro.
@@weltrweltz still not worth it. Even when people get her, they will still want Zhongli, anyway, then she'll get replaced with more useful unit. She's exist for fun variation, just like Candace, Sayu, Dori, etc.
if i will be basing on her previous skill showcase, layla advantage asidef from a stronger shield is her ability to do continuous cryo application for cryo related reactions… melt and freeze teams will celebrate!!!
Pretty sure Diona's shield also provides increase in movement speed and decrease in stamina consumption. With sac bow Diona's shield is 90-100% uptime. Also, Diona's burst provides em and debuffs enemies. Overall I think Layla is the best cryo sword character that's released in Sumeru
Another diona lover?...we talking bout Shield here not your passives or constellations...if your diona could tank Better than layla, then i had say these are for granted, But a Shielder should tank the DMG, that's enough ...no need for anything else.
I want layla but i already have diona in my team. I think i'm not pulling for her cuz they're basically the same lol. I also need battery for my team so diona is a perfect choice. Besides i'm guaranteed so i dont want to risk- but If layla can heals i might be risking some wishes tho
My Zhongli's sheild was indestructable even when he was at 25k hp cause i built him to be a burst dps. He did awful dmg so I'm rebuilding him now but I'm not that concerned with theprotection since it's always good.
The damage is dealt to the shield is based on the DEF of the active user. so I t wouldve been better if you have the same character tanking the atks. but good video
У ноэлль отвратительный кулдаун щита, только церемониальный двуручный меч помогает это компенсировать, и то ближе к р5 и этот меч хорош исключительно только в перезарядке элементального навыка, а в статах защиты и других карманных комфортных единицах измерениях подойдут мечи и получше. Но спору нет, если ноэлль носить со вторым гео ви команде + залить ей прилично защиты - у неё очень мощный щит но кулдаун щита всё портит для меня
@@franzjackson7625 about that my C6 Zhongli heals so is he a bad shielder too? and Diona's burst isn't just for heals. It also adds EM on c6 and slows enemies attack within its range.
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Whats your layla build?
The real shield tester is dvalin's breath
А мне казалось, что гео-волна геогипостазиса
But zhongli instantly created the geo hypostase shield
Doesn't matter much. From here it's clear which is stronger, that's the purpose.
In practice, almost nobody would just stand doing nothing while being blasted by the blue gas. Dvalin would be quick to fall, either way, so any shield should do.
@@lilikitigachalife3722 ну хз,хз щит моего деда может вытянуть куб, а вот дыхание нет. Ну тут скорее я что-то не то делаю
@@miheyto Моего хватает на пять секунд под прямым дыханием Давалина, а вот на Кубе - только два.
Keep in mind, when layla gets all 4 stars on her shield, its fortified with 24% shield strength and thats just one of her passives. Its a mini zhongli shield, albeit without the pure damage resistance from all sources but still a damn good shield
How to get 4 stars
@@rolex51341 star appears every 1.3 second or you can use a character skill to gain 2 stars at once. So basically 2 skills will give you 4 stars
I laughed at the credits. Wasn't expecting itto be so straight to the point
Keep in mind it would be much harder to reach that amount of hp with Diona than it would with Layla or Zhong. Diona’s shield is like paper compared to Layla’s
But she has heal! and bow! I like archers they can reach far-away places I'd love to have an archer in every team
also someone who can cut trees. like layla. but also bow characters hehe
@@LotusKitty also she have auto aim :))))
@@error6998 Oh yeah, she does!
except when her burst goes all the way in the other direction for no reason lmao but otherwise heheh yeah
Layla's shield is paper compared to Zhongli.
Geo shield + way better base stats.
@@relax2413
News flash: Layla is a 4 star while Zhongli is not just a 5 star, but also an archon. Of course his shield will be better. However, Layla is the next best shielder after him, and she’s the best shielder in freeze teams (if you don’t care about heals which personally I wouldn’t since Layla shield + freeze is enough to survive)
He is the archon. Never will have a character to surpass him in shield protection
@awso the beta? No
5.2 citlali - 😂😎
Zhongli's passive strengthen his shield when it receives dmg.
the archon stays strong !
As a ganyu main without zhongli, Layla is better than diona, her cryo application makes so that you always get 15% crit rate from the resonance and gives ganyu charge attack buff at c4
in this video something is bad,i think dionas shield is lvl 6,my diona only 30,002 of hp with shield lvl 8 can survive to the attack
ganyu alone can handle the cryo application by herself, she apply a ton of cryo with her CA, burst and e, but yea layla can be better than diona if u can maintain the shield and freeze time, morgana doesnt need that much healing and ganyu burst doesnt cost that much, layla can be a shielderx sub dps, ganyu with 20% cryo dmg bonus from her burst can help layla deals more dmg
@@fansim6110 I'm running hamayumi I can't use burst or it'll affect my damage
@@fansim6110 f2p players have troubles in everything
@@ribish6036 1. if u running hama then go for melt, and slap all hp for layla 2. if u are playing freeze then craft prototype, ganyu burst is a must when play ganyu freeze, and hama
My thoughts on the whole Diona vs Layla situation is a different line of thinking. I've read most of the comments and yes, Zhongli and Diona are currently the best utility shielders in the game.
BUT... the issues i have with both of these two is gameplay. Idk if its just me, but when you play Genshin enough you tend to run into either mechanical or server interruptions. Whether this is due to server ping or input during an enemy or environment interruption i'm not sure, but there is nothing worst holding E down and it not being registered as a hold E. This ruins gameplay and interrupts the gaming experience.
That is why I generally hold both Thoma and Layla above Diona and C0 Zhongli any day of the week (except mono Geo teams). Just smoother gameplay. There is nothing more satisfying than tapping E and then Q and swapping characters. Yes they both have problems with stacking shield, especially Thoma, but that's a skill issue. It means i'm playing bad, that can be improved. When you hold E down and it doesn't register, for whatever reason, that can not be improved. This is why, i personally have both Zhongli and Diona benched. Maybe if I got Zhongli's constellation that turns it into a tap E, it would fix my issue with him. However, i don't see that as worthy investment compared to getting a brand new 5 star or 5 star dps constellations.
Ah yes, if you not used to doing it, any cases that provide bad network or not so supportive device will ruin your hold e diona. You can't directly hold e, should wait several times
The REAL shield tester - azhdaha's stomping.
Utility wise Diona C6 is better. Reduce stamina, EM boost and healer. Its just without sacrificial bow her shield isn't 100% up and you need ER for her. Her shield is also weaker but she has good particles from holding E.
Layla has stronger shield and better cryo application and attack boost at c4. Plus lower ER so you can focus on HP more.
Zhongli better utility overall, 100% shield uptime and his damage absorbtion is for all elements and physical damage so its very strong, has shred and his burst deals a lot of damage if build correctly (mine does around 100k as a burst support shielder). But he is a 5*
I don't see the need for Layla since Diona already works really well for melt ganyu and my perma freeze team already keeps everything frozen in abyss. But for those who do not have a reliable shielder Layla is a good option especially at c4. Her shield is cryo shield though so keep in mind its stronger against cryo but weaker against pyro.
I forgot Diona provides movement speed too
being honest i'm scared if Layla it's good because I don't want issues with Yae and Childe and My wishes
Same man
She's not that good. Besides shield and cryo application for freeze team. An easy skip for most
@@naikou3611 I hope we can get it like 3.6 or something
@@naikou3611, she has the best shield in the game, after zhongli.
@@weltrweltz still not worth it. Even when people get her, they will still want Zhongli, anyway, then she'll get replaced with more useful unit. She's exist for fun variation, just like Candace, Sayu, Dori, etc.
if i will be basing on her previous skill showcase, layla advantage asidef from a stronger shield is her ability to do continuous cryo application for cryo related reactions… melt and freeze teams will celebrate!!!
Yap
Pretty sure Diona's shield also provides increase in movement speed and decrease in stamina consumption. With sac bow Diona's shield is 90-100% uptime. Also, Diona's burst provides em and debuffs enemies. Overall I think Layla is the best cryo sword character that's released in Sumeru
@thorru not really, you can build her and she's functional in any team that diona function. But overall utility, I'd say Diona is a better unit
Layla also has 100% uptime tho, and better dmg. She's better shielder and DPS, Diona better overall utility.
we still don't have a weapon for Layla, yet she already has full 100% skill uptime and can use Millelith while Diona can't
Another diona lover?...we talking bout Shield here not your passives or constellations...if your diona could tank Better than layla, then i had say these are for granted,
But a Shielder should tank the DMG, that's enough ...no need for anything else.
I want layla but i already have diona in my team. I think i'm not pulling for her cuz they're basically the same lol. I also need battery for my team so diona is a perfect choice. Besides i'm guaranteed so i dont want to risk- but If layla can heals i might be risking some wishes tho
good choice bro. pulling for 4star can ruin ur acc. always aim for 5star.
Yeah never try pull for 4 stars I learned from my mistakes / primos lol
just give her a chance to come, do ten pull and thats it.
@@NanomouZ nahh i got heizou at 60th pulls and ill never aim for 4 star again unless i want the 5 star, i'll get her in her 2nd rerun
@@NanomouZ sounds like a good plan too.
I'll stick with Diona since she give more utility like heal
Rmb before zhongli got his buff and his shield was worse than Noelle’s? How times have changed
My Zhongli's sheild was indestructable even when he was at 25k hp cause i built him to be a burst dps. He did awful dmg so I'm rebuilding him now but I'm not that concerned with theprotection since it's always good.
The damage is dealt to the shield is based on the DEF of the active user. so I t wouldve been better if you have the same character tanking the atks.
but good video
Thanks 😄
Cryo against pyro:
Хорошо бы сравнить ещё с Ноэлль. У кого будет второй щит в игре?
У ноэлль отвратительный кулдаун щита, только церемониальный двуручный меч помогает это компенсировать, и то ближе к р5 и этот меч хорош исключительно только в перезарядке элементального навыка, а в статах защиты и других карманных комфортных единицах измерениях подойдут мечи и получше.
Но спору нет, если ноэлль носить со вторым гео ви команде + залить ей прилично защиты - у неё очень мощный щит но кулдаун щита всё портит для меня
Какая бы лайла не была, Моракса ей никогда не заменить
Гений.
Проблема чжуна что он один
Layla's build is much straightforward than diona. Diona is really weird with her bonus cryo dmg enhancement.
that outro tho 🤣
I was surprised by the outro😅🤣
Layla va a ser del mismo nivel que un zhongli c0 por el tema de que los 4* tiene constelaciones más fáciles de sacar que un 5*
Нет, у Чжун Ли щит сильнее, даже без конст. Были проведены расчёты в интернете.
영상속 3캐릭터가 전부 방어력이 동일한 상태가 맞겠죠?
쉴드는 방어력 영향도 있기때문에 완벽한 테스트는 방어력이 동일한 상태로 진행해야 하지 않나요?
4 stars have a limit to shields I think
Where is Thomas and Noelle?
my diona c0 30,002 hp can survive to all atacks ,w
tf with the comparation
Different enemy levels
Хороший вопрос был ли щит дионы с долгой ешкой, или с быстрой...
Очевидно с долгой, быстрый уже бы кончился до ракет
@@nationalgeografic7687 возможно...
@@nationalgeografic7687 не кончился бы
Zhongli will alway be the best shield character….mostly because he a god and geo
No other shilder will beat zhonglis shield
for 4 star shielder layla is very nice
Логично, что у Чжун ли щит мощнее, он же 5* 🤨
Layla c3 will make her shield as good as zhongli
best shield is Iframe
Dude, zhongli is next level, no any current support shield character can match him, but diona still has advantage to heal and shield all party members
Tbf a shielder that needs healing to compare means she has a bad shield
I prefer diona for my melt ganyu than layla
once zhongli c6 nothing in the entire game can kill you 🔥🔥
Well yes but zhongli is... You know... Geo
Whereas Diona and Layla are cryo.
Cryo Will Always open more composition variety
@@franzjackson7625 about that my C6 Zhongli heals so is he a bad shielder too? and Diona's burst isn't just for heals. It also adds EM on c6 and slows enemies attack within its range.
Zhongli se queda con el mejor escudo nadie lo compara
У меня лайла выдерживает атаки руиника, просто она у вас слабая
I have a question so if i pull zhongli on c0 will i have rapix shield?
Doesn’t Zhongli shield activate at c2?
but are the talent's level the same?
Yap, level 10
Zhongli: amateurs
Diona C6 is literally
So Zhongmid is just an overpriced Layla lmao xD
dont forget thoma
Try Noele 3000 DEF.
Talent level???
Talent e skill nya lv berapa aja bang?
Mentok semua
*Nice*
pretty sure it isnt even possible to get that much hp on diona and layla(unless you're using the key on layla)
Ясно, норм собири диону, моя диона у которой 30к хп выдерживает щит
Talent?
10
Zongli have best shield
deity is deity
He is a archon, 😍
Layla >>>> Diona
Thoma?
Zhongli is still the best shielder😎😁
Noelle >>>>>
zhongli still better
Of course, he is 5*! If he were worse, people would stop pulling him🤷🏻♀
Archon ❤
A 5 star who’s the Geo Archon having a better shield? Wooow such a shocker ☠️☠️
And he should be. He's a 5 star and an archon.
what kind of dummass is that?!?