Pauli Spinors: Just Geometry, Not Quantum Magic!

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  • @EccentricTuber
    @EccentricTuber  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There's a short quiz to test your retention/understanding: quizwithit.com/start_thequiz/1723220806250x216672769950089200

  • @michaeldfarmer
    @michaeldfarmer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    I’m a vehement supporter of adopting geometric algebra as the consensus approach to teaching and researching physics and engineering. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge in this accessible way! It’s people like you who will give the next generation access to this incredible tool. 🙏🙏🙏

    • @KipIngram
      @KipIngram 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Could not agree more, and have felt this way ever since I discovered geometric algebra. At least after I got over the anger of never having had it taught to me in school.

  • @ImaGonnar
    @ImaGonnar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Oh we cooking! TY my guy 👨‍🍳

    • @EccentricTuber
      @EccentricTuber  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ImaGonnar 🍽️🍷🫡

  • @chrisjager5370
    @chrisjager5370 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I wish I had learned Geometric Algebra before Relativity, QM, Maxwell's Equations.

  • @TymexComputing
    @TymexComputing 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I remember from adv. physics that there were some Dirac spinors - not necessarily Pauli spinors but it doesnt matter how you call it - more important is how it behaves :)

    • @EccentricTuber
      @EccentricTuber  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Dirac spinors (Righthanded & Lefthanded Weyl spinors) are basically the relativistic equivalent of Pauli spinors :)

  • @utof
    @utof 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ah, Memes, Minecraft music, and Math. the holy M trinity. subbed

  • @tadeums
    @tadeums 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    simple and insightful explanation

  • @alanthayer8797
    @alanthayer8797 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well put & explained my boy

  • @TheJara123
    @TheJara123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonderful man. Thanks

  • @ckpioo
    @ckpioo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    amazing!, this could definitely play a part in my "pocket universe" (a simulation of a universe where i can control physics)

  • @mastershooter64
    @mastershooter64 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Minecraft music! Nice!

  • @douginorlando6260
    @douginorlando6260 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Geometric Algebra requires hours of teaching and examples to get an intuitive feel. It does look like a powerful branch of math to understand/model any real world system that deals with angular momentum or torque (both mechanical and in EM fields/radiation). I see the value and concur with other commenters who want geometric algebra to be included up front in college level STEM.

  • @scottychen2397
    @scottychen2397 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is excellent . The proclaimed principle itself could be considered nothing other than the use of vectors to speak of the Minkowski - state of the quantum particle system in question . …
    The use of this kind of Moduli space in the sense of a PDE has many meanings associated to it : so an excellent video.
    To clear up the confusion one may have surrounding such a thing .

  • @waynesaban2607
    @waynesaban2607 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Damn math goblins.

  • @Globbo_The_Glob
    @Globbo_The_Glob 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool vid, love GA. Mind sharing some reseoruces for the link between the "quantumness" and geometry you mention around 14mins?

    • @EccentricTuber
      @EccentricTuber  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The paper in the description has a brief mention of that, and also this video th-cam.com/video/Zk6YnJpbhOo/w-d-xo.html by one of the paper's co-authors.

  • @TheOneMaddin
    @TheOneMaddin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I thought spinors are pretty easy things, being elements of the spin group which double covers the orthogonal group. But I get confused if people introduce these bases.

    • @EccentricTuber
      @EccentricTuber  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Something that's not actively promoted is that there are different definitions of spinors. One is a "classical spinor," which is an element of a spin group as you said. That's the rotor in this video. Another is an element of a minimal left ideal, called an "algebraic spinor." That's when you multiply the rotor by the projector, which is equal to the bisector times the projector. The last, and least used (because it's only truly valid in 3 dimensions), is the "operatorial spinor," which is an element of an even subalgebra.

  • @KaliFissure
    @KaliFissure 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video. 👍
    I came across this form in my explorations and it seems like it is prefect for spinors.
    A radially symmetric single sided closed surface. A symmetric Klein bottle.
    The two regions are joined at a point of catastrophe. Joining minima and maxima.
    Surface(cos(u/2)cos(v/2),cos(u/2)sin(v/2),sin(u)/2),u,0,2pi,v,0,4pi
    And notice that 2pi only covers one region, that one needs 4pi to complete the surface. Electron half spin. We see an electron, for 360° but INSIDE the electron, on the other side of time/infinity is a positron to balance it. So 720° total. 🖖

  • @millamulisha
    @millamulisha 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Connections to quaternions and how to explain bispinors? Octonions maybe?
    I know there’s some connection between SU(2) and SO(3), is there a similar ‘trick’ to connect SU(3) to SO(4)?
    Great video, new to learning geometric algebra. Thanks! 🙏

    • @EccentricTuber
      @EccentricTuber  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      This algebra (the APS: G(3) ) is isomorphic to complexified quaternions, and the even subalgebra of the APS is isomorphic to quaternions! SU(2) is the "double cover" of SO(3), which basically means that for every transformation element in SO(3), there are two elements in SU(2) that represent the same transformation. There, unfortunately, is no trick to connect SU(3) and SO(4). They are both their own things!
      Glad you liked the video!

    • @Ivan___Cunha
      @Ivan___Cunha 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      SU(3) and SO(4) are quite different groups. But SU(2)×SU(2) has a double cover over SO(4) in a similar way.

    • @millamulisha
      @millamulisha 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EccentricTuber I’m reading this paper, ‘Some recent results for SU(3) and Octonions within the Geometric Algebra approach to the fundamental forces of nature’ by Lasenby. Some interesting stuff in there. Maybe you can make more sense of it than me. 😅

    • @EccentricTuber
      @EccentricTuber  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@millamulisha Funny you bring that up! I've actually been reading it myself! Maybe I'll make a video eventually 🤙🤙

  • @strict_asianbroccoli2023
    @strict_asianbroccoli2023 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is this related to mohrs circle for stress and strain at all???

  • @narutouzumaki2157
    @narutouzumaki2157 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @roneyandrade6287
    @roneyandrade6287 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really want to start getting my PhD now

    • @EccentricTuber
      @EccentricTuber  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@roneyandrade6287 Same, but alas: money 😭

    • @roneyandrade6287
      @roneyandrade6287 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @EccentricTuber holy hecks, that's so me. Big L for us non privilege people 😢

    • @EccentricTuber
      @EccentricTuber  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@roneyandrade6287 Maybe someday for both of us!

  • @joshonperc
    @joshonperc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what happened to Nyrþik?

    • @EccentricTuber
      @EccentricTuber  หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a good question! It's just not a good language. I made it while I was first learning to conlang, so it has tons of flaws.

  • @chuckaway6580
    @chuckaway6580 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not done with the video, but isn't plane based geometric algebra just the exterior algebra of the dual space?

    • @EccentricTuber
      @EccentricTuber  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's related, but it's the Clifford algebra "extension".

  • @BingoDan936
    @BingoDan936 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Q. What is the difference between left spin and right spin?
    A. The direction in which the particle is moving in relation to the field in which it moves.
    Magnetism is spiral.
    Put the cork on the screw it spins in one direction.
    Take the cork off the screw it spins in the opposite direction.
    There is only one cork.

    • @bjornfeuerbacher5514
      @bjornfeuerbacher5514 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "The direction in which the particle is moving in relation to the field in which it moves."
      No, that has nothing to do with spin. Where did you get that idea from? Spin is related to _angular_ momentum, whereas the direction into which a particle moves is simply related to _momentum_ itself.
      "Magnetism is spiral."
      What is that supposed to mean? And what does all of that have to do with corks?

    • @BingoDan936
      @BingoDan936 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bjornfeuerbacher5514 Yes. Magnetic Spiral Fields.
      Particles, like photons, follow the spiral magnetic field.

    • @bjornfeuerbacher5514
      @bjornfeuerbacher5514 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BingoDan936 You didn't answer any of my questions and ignored my corrections. Typical, like a true crackpot.
      "Magnetic Spiral Fields."
      Again: What is that supposed to mean?
      "Particles, like photons, follow the spiral magnetic field."
      That contradicts almost everything we know from at least 100 years of experiments with electromagnetic fields and photons. Get an education!

  • @Miparwo
    @Miparwo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your content gets hidden below the subtitles.

    • @EccentricTuber
      @EccentricTuber  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Miparwo That's a bummer, maybe turning off subtitles temporarily is the way to go, then?

    • @Miparwo
      @Miparwo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EccentricTuber for non english speakers, telling apart different english accents is difficult, and reading the subtitles is necessary.

    • @EccentricTuber
      @EccentricTuber  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Miparwo I understand, don't worry. I was just proposing that maybe a solution is to read the subtitles but then pause the video so you can temporarily turn off subtitles to be able to see the slide better. In the future I'll try to not take up the whole slide.

    • @2fifty533
      @2fifty533 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      this is more of a youtube issue than anything

  • @anywallsocket
    @anywallsocket 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The lack of symmetry of your rotating circle is triggering but thanks otherwise

    • @EccentricTuber
      @EccentricTuber  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lol it's called "I can't be bothered to learn proper animation techniques"

    • @Scapeonomics
      @Scapeonomics 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EccentricTuber What's funny is how GA has seen a renaissance of use in animations due to its simplicity

  • @TheOneMaddin
    @TheOneMaddin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you allowed to use the minecraft background music in your video?

  • @virtualknight5669
    @virtualknight5669 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😂

  • @EricDMMiller
    @EricDMMiller 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let's go all the way and apply this reasoning to physics. What is being bisected?

    • @EccentricTuber
      @EccentricTuber  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EricDMMiller The angle between the spin axis and the spin direction, as demonstrated in the video with a and c