17:00 if you think there’s a secret room on an empty room just use mr me wherever and if there is one he’ll open it! Idk if you’ve watched Rick and Morty but Mr Me is a reference to Mr Meeseeks so he basically does anything he can grab pickups you can’t reach, open any closed door whether it is a boss trap room, a normal room which is closed during a fight or even the mega satan door and even fight if you aim him at a boss! Anything you can think of he’ll probably be able to do it, thus being a q3, don’t just focus on stealing items
I usually feed all my defensive items to Jacob, and offensive to eseau, since you can move Jacob around, you can always position him to block shots from hitting eseau
You can min max with J&E. Take damage ups with the one with the higher tear rate and tears up with the one, who has the higher damage. Damage output = damage per tear * number of tears This will automatically optimally scale to: You find a lot of damage ups at the beginning -> giving them all to jacob -> Jacob & Hitbox or: You find a lot of tears up at the beginning -> giving them all to Esau -> Hitbox & Esau or: something in between -> more balanced Note that something can be objectively optimal, but subjectively suboptimal, as you have to adapt and don't rely on preferences. Also because Jacob starts out with more luck, luck based effects should generally go to Jacob, especially the ones, that are damage independant (Razor Apple is damage dependant, so even if Jacob has higher luck, Esau might make the higher damage output. Little horn on the other hand is damage independant and therefore should go to the one with the higher luck, most often Jacob) Luck ups should go to one character (most probably Jacob) Also GO ALTPATH, as you'll get double the amount of items, than you'd usually would. The only reason not to, is the time limitation with Hush, as getting there on time with altpath might be harder. But other than that, you should always go altpath with J&E and consider restarting, when not having a key on the first/second floor to go to downpour/dross. As you already know, Angel deals are generally more preferrable, but you struggled a lot with not getting hit (which is reasonable as Jacob and Esau). At 33:57 taking the mark with Jacob would grant him a non-red heart, increasing your chance of seeing another devil room. #of tears for Jacob per second are 3 (Tears stat at 3) and for Esau 4 * 1.05 = 4.20, which means Esau would be preferrable to get a damage up BUT realistically not all 4 tears are gonna hit. I'd expect 2.5 tears to hit on average, i.e. 2.5 * 1.05 = 2.6 (not exactly, but just doing quick calculations in the head). So the mark could be preferrable for Jacob instead + giving him a black heart.
Splitting enemies like Fistula aren't very good to use bombs against, as the bomb damage is instantaneous, so the first 'layer' gets all of the damage, then it splits and the smaller splits are still at full health
15:48 I recommend using Ehwaz in rooms where they weren't enemies since the blood/guts decals can be confusing when looking for decorative tiles
just reenter the room
17:00 if you think there’s a secret room on an empty room just use mr me wherever and if there is one he’ll open it! Idk if you’ve watched Rick and Morty but Mr Me is a reference to Mr Meeseeks so he basically does anything he can grab pickups you can’t reach, open any closed door whether it is a boss trap room, a normal room which is closed during a fight or even the mega satan door and even fight if you aim him at a boss! Anything you can think of he’ll probably be able to do it, thus being a q3, don’t just focus on stealing items
You should try The Binding of Isaac, the first one.
I usually feed all my defensive items to Jacob, and offensive to eseau, since you can move Jacob around, you can always position him to block shots from hitting eseau
You can min max with J&E. Take damage ups with the one with the higher tear rate and tears up with the one, who has the higher damage. Damage output = damage per tear * number of tears
This will automatically optimally scale to: You find a lot of damage ups at the beginning -> giving them all to jacob -> Jacob & Hitbox
or: You find a lot of tears up at the beginning -> giving them all to Esau -> Hitbox & Esau
or: something in between -> more balanced
Note that something can be objectively optimal, but subjectively suboptimal, as you have to adapt and don't rely on preferences.
Also because Jacob starts out with more luck, luck based effects should generally go to Jacob, especially the ones, that are damage independant (Razor Apple is damage dependant, so even if Jacob has higher luck, Esau might make the higher damage output. Little horn on the other hand is damage independant and therefore should go to the one with the higher luck, most often Jacob)
Luck ups should go to one character (most probably Jacob)
Also GO ALTPATH, as you'll get double the amount of items, than you'd usually would. The only reason not to, is the time limitation with Hush, as getting there on time with altpath might be harder. But other than that, you should always go altpath with J&E and consider restarting, when not having a key on the first/second floor to go to downpour/dross.
As you already know, Angel deals are generally more preferrable, but you struggled a lot with not getting hit (which is reasonable as Jacob and Esau). At 33:57 taking the mark with Jacob would grant him a non-red heart, increasing your chance of seeing another devil room. #of tears for Jacob per second are 3 (Tears stat at 3) and for Esau 4 * 1.05 = 4.20, which means Esau would be preferrable to get a damage up BUT realistically not all 4 tears are gonna hit. I'd expect 2.5 tears to hit on average, i.e. 2.5 * 1.05 = 2.6 (not exactly, but just doing quick calculations in the head). So the mark could be preferrable for Jacob instead + giving him a black heart.
9:28 experimental treatment decreases the cap to 4.5 or increases it to 5.5 if you’re lucky which you weren’t 😂
Next, you should work on a Discord
I would join that instantly
count me in, too
14:30 yes, there is not a better way, but if you’re giving everything to one of them then it’s objectively better for it to be Essau
Splitting enemies like Fistula aren't very good to use bombs against, as the bomb damage is instantaneous, so the first 'layer' gets all of the damage, then it splits and the smaller splits are still at full health
Got your First Video recommended like 3 or 4 days ago. Have watched many hours since then!
You should got alternate floors. You can pick up both items in treasure room.
hey just bought the membership dude you deserve all the support, also if you make a discord server I would join
Thank you so much!!! ❤️🧼 a discord server is on my to do list 🧼
soapy do you know when the next stream might be I don’t want to miss it
Is there any items which you can get early that would be especially op for Jacob&Esau, chat?
New soapy vid yaaaaaaaaa
how many hours in game do you have at this point?
Ily soapy just joined as a member
Ily2 🧼❤️ thank you so much!!!
@OatmealSoap 🧼🥣
amayzing
This characters sucks sooo much, it was a mistake to ut it in the game
Hold r until you get a good item as jacob and esau
Nah