Switching from DJI to Walksnail Avatar - My setup, tweaks and range / penetration test

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  • DJI are the kind of company who want to sell you something every year or two, and that bugs me, i also recently discovered whoops and you just cant do it with DJI, so i was cautious and got myself a set of Caddx Walksnail Avatar goggles, a BetaFPV Meteor 75 and three pro v2 VTXs for my 5 inch kwads.
    Taken me a long time to switch things over but man am i happy. For me in every way its better than my v1 DJI, same latency, way better video, and super comfy so its i'm chuffed.
    Made a lot of changes to the goggles including antennas, straps, foam and more so i made a video along the way. Hope you can put up with my dull voice rambling but any questions let me know.
    I'm not a Walksnail fanboy i still think o3 is better video quality - not by much, and i get why lot of people will stick with them, i also have no intention of stopping using my GoPro, so for me this is my weapon of choice!
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    ----- My Kwads ------
    Frame : TBS Source One V5 5"
    VTX: Caddx Walksnail Avatar
    Motors: T-Motor Velox 2307 1950kv
    Props: Gemfan SBANG
    RX/TX: TBS Tracer Nano
    Battery: Tattu FunFly 1300 6S / Speedy Pizzas 1200 6S
    FC: SucceX-E F7
    ESC: SucceX Mini 45A
    Camera: Caddx Walksnail Avatar Pro angle 25 degrees
    Camera: GoPro 5 (mostley) & 9 @ 25 degrees sometimes using ND filters
    Radio: TBS Mambo Ethix
    Goggles: Caddx Walksnail Avatar
    BetaFPV Meteor 75 Walksnail Edition ELRS
    Motors: BetaFPV 1102 18000KV
    Battery: BT2.0 450mAh 1S 30C
    Frame: Meteor75 Micro Brushless Whoop Frame
    Props: 40mm 3-Blade Propellers
    FC&ESC: F4 1S 5A FC
    VTX: 1S Walksnail Avatar Mini HD VTX
    Camera: Wanlksnail Avatar Nano Camera
    Radio: TBS Mambo Ethix & Radiomaster Micro ELRS
    Goggles: Caddx Walksnail Avatar
    ------ Non Quad Video Stuff ------
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  • @humbertocortes68
    @humbertocortes68 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    But....many people talk it bad range and penetration power...how you do for avoid it???🤔

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s a fair question and I was very nervous as well, that’s why I didn’t sell my dji until I’d had them for a bit.
      I think the penetration on WS at 1200 is better than dji at 700 def, so I have upped my power, but at 1200 and the trueRC patch and omnis I fly everything the same as I have before. I don’t know but I think the old ws firmware was crap 🙃 I love it as it is today. What are you currently using?

    • @humbertocortes68
      @humbertocortes68 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@genericfpv Thanks...I currently use dji at 1200mw with the latest mjolnir antennas, but I'm not satisfied with the penetration and range in certain structures and areas with trees. I congratulate you on your courage to experiment. It is a good reference and contribution for others in this complicated world of FPV

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Complicated is the right word, if you are already on dji and using mjolnir nothing to gain stick as you are, o3 may do better with goggles 2 but real world all 3 are really close. The mjolnir looks AWESOME thanks again for the watch!

    • @KrotowX
      @KrotowX ปีที่แล้ว

      During collecting info about Walksnail I came to conclusion that stock omni antennas bundled with first Avatar google batches, was the largest reason of bad penetration. Recently Avatar googles started to came with new omni antennas named "Red Bird". These perform much better. Red Bird antennas are also available separately in RC shops. Also you can use another better LHCP omni antenas instead of stock ones. And I'm pretty sure that DJI Mjolnir antennas will perform much better than stock ones on Avatar googles as well.

    • @humbertocortes68
      @humbertocortes68 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KrotowX thx. Very good info for begining on this new fpv system.

  • @NathansHVAC
    @NathansHVAC ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I converted to dji o3. I previously used V1 and V2. O3 is amazing detail. Even at the edge of signal, the detail is true HD crisp clear compared to highly compressed blur.

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว

      Good stuff 🤘

    • @sunsetpark_fpv
      @sunsetpark_fpv ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "highly compressed blur" 🤣

    • @babc142
      @babc142 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And when you go over the edge, you'll never recover your video link, because O3 drops into low power mode upon link loss 💩

    • @jotham123
      @jotham123 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@babc142I found that out the hard way. big turn off .. does WS suffer the same fate?

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว

      It def recovers in bandos, or if someone plugs in on you as I found out this weekend 😒 you can turn standby off which is like pit mode

  • @BMFPV
    @BMFPV ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great review! Very informative! Think I'm going to go for the scout HD goggles at some point, those Walksnail whoops are getting irresistible 👍

  • @kingkieck
    @kingkieck ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm still running analogue, but feel its almost time for me to upgrade. I continue to be heavily undecided on which system to choose over the 3 upgrades. Thanks for shedding a lil light on the matter.

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s so tough, because Im mad on whoops it was the only option, if I only flew 5” would be much tougher choice 😬

  • @KrotowX
    @KrotowX ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks about Walksnail capability demonstration. I'm now in switching from DJI to Walksnail due to lighter VTX, 1S VTX availability for my whoops, better compatibility with Betaflight and less fear to become kicked out when DJI will replace their ecosystem to something new and incompatible again.
    Seen few Avatar HD Pro camera videos with evening flying - that is exactly what I want :) Visibility seems better than Vista Polar camera have.

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah since this video my love for WS has only got more! Cheers

  • @batmojuice5704
    @batmojuice5704 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice tip about the tape on the SD card. That was my biggest gripe about the goggles.

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว

      I’d love to take the credit but someone I stole it from someone else, no idea why WS didn’t improve that but hope they do on the next version! Cheers

  • @DrFrantic77
    @DrFrantic77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Welcome bro, still love Walksnail

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s ace, def happy 👍 cheers for the watch!

  • @Magneticitist
    @Magneticitist ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yea.. I think the O3 maybe has the best handling of penetration but when it comes to low lighting situations it doesn't much matter cause you can't hardly see anything.

    • @ogpennywise
      @ogpennywise ปีที่แล้ว

      I also think O3 has the best aperture for night time. I get decent video out of it at night. But my Cat camera still is better.

  • @sunsetpark_fpv
    @sunsetpark_fpv ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Makes me happy to see someone converting FROM DJI instead of TO DJI 😎
    Very good advertisement for the power of the Walksnail system.

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah still no regrets switching, cant see me going back, had some issues but they have all been me and soldering, i do think the vistas are bombproof but i love the goggles and 1s and it simply not being dji, getting a v3 1s vtx in next few days and sounds like will be more sturdy, cheers!

    • @ogpennywise
      @ogpennywise ปีที่แล้ว

      I have put all of my WS stuff on the shelf and am converting everything to O3.
      It's that much better.

  • @crazicat
    @crazicat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Went with Walksnail system with Fatshark goggles as my first digital after flying analog for years. Am very happy I picked WS. Have NewBeeDrone HD02 foam and Foxeer antennas on goggles and factory antennas on VTXs, works great for me.

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ooh I’ll checkout the NBD foam thanks, only think not quite right currently thanks

    • @mrmagoo600
      @mrmagoo600 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How did the latency effect you when you went from analogue on the fat sharks to walksnail

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mrmagoo600 I still have my fat sharks and fly analog weekly (whoops), I’m lucky I cannot tell the difference with latency between any digital vs analog. In the goggles it shows you latency and between 22-30 I cannot feel it even when fast and proxy, above 35 it’s horrible but in the same way you feel a spot for signal you do the same on digital and you know where the bad spots are and don’t fly there. Dji/walksnail range in a bando is infinitely better and the thing I struggled with going to digital was not being able to hear the motor/throttle and getting that feedback I missed it but have adjusted now. Still love putting on my fat sharks but digital is crazy good and hard to come back from!

    • @mrmagoo600
      @mrmagoo600 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@genericfpv wicked thanks man
      I’ve only every flown anlog, HDO2s, foxeer T-Rex with 1500tv, 3ms screen to screen (so the specs say) the image is really good. Unify Evo as I like the audio, on 800mw. Im generally happy with it. Considering and searching considering again if I want to switch, it’s between HDZ or Walksnail. Walksnail wins I think for image and penetration, HDZ for low latency feel which will be closer to what I currently fly, but because I’ve never flown a digital system of any type apart from a couple minutes once of DJI out in front of myself in a car park different rates etc the image looked as good as anlog I wasn’t able to get good enough perspective for it so I can’t speak how digital truly feels.
      IDK 🤷‍♂️ I’ll keep investigating 😂
      Thanks again man appreciate the feedback

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mrmagoo600 no worries, if you are at drone fest or about the midlands have a fly of mine if I see you 🤘

  • @Simofly
    @Simofly 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Switched too from dji to avatar one year ago! Subscribed 👍 I don’t like dji commercial policies even if the system is better ( but it’s not night and day lately ) , O3 is still a compromise if you want to use it as an action cam to record footage or you are flying in dark spots imo

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe new WS goggles tomorrow 👀 - the vtx they announced last week is marked as 4k compatible, the gap for WS and o3 getting smaller! Cheers

    • @Simofly
      @Simofly 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@genericfpv yes ! eager to see what are they working at with this new goggles ! Hope that will use two TX antenna instead of one ….

  • @FATSNAIL-FPV
    @FATSNAIL-FPV ปีที่แล้ว

    On the vtx: lollipop 4+
    Goggles: TrueRC stubbies/ the set of patches you had on and TrueRC stubbies on top.
    Happy with WS so far, but the v1 vtx's sometimes just die.
    Still have to instal a v2 with pro cam and use the solder pads, as the v1 plug connection sometimes bends the prongs if you're not carefull.
    Also the usb u can ad to the v2 is a smart idea, to bad they didn't have it built in but maybe they'll come up with a V3 vtx that is internal usbc.
    Ditched analog for Walksnail first, and got HDzero fir racing and whoops, happy with both so far.
    Only flying for 2 years now lol.

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WS and HDzero - dream team 🤤 def gonna get some lollipops def sound much better!

  • @itzjoeylo4501
    @itzjoeylo4501 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Avatar is superior in low light situations, I love my Walksnail.

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Coming from Dji vista….. I miss nothing! 🤘🏻

  • @matthacker2043
    @matthacker2043 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for the solid review/comparison.

  • @derivas007
    @derivas007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    for me the only one reason i didint buy walksnail is that is not inclued with rx protocol like dji 03 did!!so you need to add extra tx...i priest they are going to integrate elrs protocole directly

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve recently switched to elrs, if they did integrate I would go mental, would be amazing!

  • @mark6302
    @mark6302 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i have WS and HDZ I like both

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lucky I’d love to try HDZ, the goggles look crazy good

  • @Braincho
    @Braincho หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video. Are those old goggles of Walksnail - the dominator if I remember correctly? What would you say about goggles X? Also is it possible to have analog module on Walksnail so i can use my old whoops with them(don't want to keep analog goggles and have 2 pairs - I want to have just one to fit all my needs)

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  หลายเดือนก่อน

      thanks! yes these are the original fatshark/walksnail googles and i still love them and had no issues since making this video, i have a friend with the X and hes very happy and had no problems, being transparent the internet has videos of people saying they have issues - but i haven't met one in the flesh, so im sure no smoke without fire but i "think" it was more on the early release, they changed the heat sink on ones they have been shipping recently. Analog yes you can get a module for the X but there are def some downsides to it, biggest is no DVR recording :( personally i still have a dedicated goggles for whoops, while its good you can - its too compromised for me. No analog at all possible on my version of the goggles - only the X. thanks

    • @Braincho
      @Braincho หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@genericfpv Thank you for quick respond and honest opinion!
      Would like to ask you what type of analog goggles you use and what would you recommend me to get or better to switch to Walksnail and keep(use) old crap box for analog? I'm currently using EV800D Eachine box goggles. they are kind of nice, but I have some link(range/penetration) issues, at least i think so. If you have 15-20sec spare to look at my video to see what kind of video signal I have from how far(I'm next to the car) th-cam.com/video/PzZEpc87bfI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=z5yZfJNVNd2pwjUn&t=24 ( at around 0:40 you can see how far I was flying) (Eachine TX526 VTX), and help me out with advice on how to fix my problem, make better connection or new goggles I guess( not the top end... budget is a bit of a factor here)
      Thanks!

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Braincho very tough to answer, for me i fly bandos so penetration is first. So walksnail and DJI are 1st choice for me, but ive really got into whoops so i need lightweight and range isnt a issue so analog/hdz is perfect. so for me i have just got the HDZ goggles but you can pickup any skyzone or fatsharks for great prices now. it doesn't look like your setup is bad, not sure buying high end analog goggles and antennas would change it much - trees would do the same on my hdz - but digital wouldn't be a issue and keep going. It would be wrong for me to say x/y/z but it could boil down to how far do you want to fly away from yourself, i never go far as im gonna crash doing flippy flops 😅 a lot of my choices have been more about comfort/enjoyment. would it make you a better pilot etc. you seem like your having fun, and a lot of pilots going back to analog. Good problems to have and wish i could say "just buy this"

    • @Braincho
      @Braincho หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@genericfpvThank you for your time to stay here and explain it all!
      When I just fly around, I don't need to go far, but sometimes I want to go into some wild beautiful nature - low hills, lakes, rivers, forest, etc... there I will need some range and penetration. That's why I was wondering if I should go Walksnail system for 3.5"-5" to have good video performance and better look of what you actually see to enjoy it more, but have some module foe analog so I don't buy separate expensive goggles just for whoops(or use my old box for whoops). The plan B was to get at high side of analog for everything... so still didn't decide it(not sure which way worth it). Or DJI goggles V2 with analog module, but they don't sell it anymore , hard to find, and not sure if I want them second hand... Thanks again! Have a good one!

  • @slaughtercarterfpv1336
    @slaughtercarterfpv1336 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really thinking about switching as well

  • @FS_Performance
    @FS_Performance หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you like DJI or Walksnail more? I am thinking about switching from Walksnail to DJI...

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  หลายเดือนก่อน

      its personal preference and what you fly, DJI is great, i have no intentions of going back and i love all the new stuff walksnail bring out, i have WS whoops, up to 2w long range VTXs and they are half the price of o3. That said vistas are bomb proof and o3 is super pretty so its just different🤷‍♀

  • @vladimirtalijan
    @vladimirtalijan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah, I'm switching to no name Amazon dashcam too :D :D

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      savage burn, i'll rethink my choices now thank you

    • @ThunderFarter
      @ThunderFarter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What do you have against walksnail lol xD

  • @divingfalconfpv4602
    @divingfalconfpv4602 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want to make the switch. I have walksnail and dji. But moonlight is out of stock. The goggles x out of stock. The VRx needs to be moddified for good patches. Stock walksnail antennas arent that good

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      just checked on banggood and they are in stock on there it that helps? but stock does seem low on them :(

    • @divingfalconfpv4602
      @divingfalconfpv4602 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @genericfpv yea but liek aliexpress they will say in stock. Say you'll get it in 6 days. But u order and it never ships.

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@divingfalconfpv4602 ah didnt know that! hope you find some :)

    • @divingfalconfpv4602
      @divingfalconfpv4602 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @genericfpv I'll try with cheaper things. Then cancel after like 6days if it doesn't auto refund. But afraid to risk with expressive. And banggood has given me problems with refunds in past. So I usually try to not order from there. I go with aliexpress

  • @ThunderFarter
    @ThunderFarter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey I have goggles X as you but I updated my device and it said the same device firmware

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      had that happen on VTXs and its always becuase i've used the wrong sky/ground file or the SD card has been bit funny and i formatted it and then its worked. If it works i think it deletes the bin file so if its still on the card after a reboot it means its the wrong file. not sure if that helps?

    • @ThunderFarter
      @ThunderFarter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@genericfpv Yeah I misread the manual I just clicked on the pairing button whilst I needed to hold it for 8 seconds, but there is like an update everyday it feels like lol

  • @garethjones1
    @garethjones1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Next system for me will be this. Can I also ask where that spot is you were flying? Subbed. Cheers.

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hey cheers for the watch! yeah the spot is in Coventry - i went last week and they have started to demolish it 😔

  • @yaronskp
    @yaronskp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are a great pilot! What about lag? You seem to fly very fast without an issue... Do you change rates for it or just adjusted over time?

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you very much 😀 coming from dji v1 and vistas there is no difference, same everything 😀 I think the older firmware had lag but it’s gone in recent versions, I also got best antennas I could just in case!

    • @yaronskp
      @yaronskp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@genericfpv what antennas do you use?

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      TrueRC patch (square) and omni (black) they come in a bundle and advertised for walksnail I got mine from hobbyrc in the UK (where I am)

  • @CaptainKazi
    @CaptainKazi ปีที่แล้ว

    nice low light comparison!

  • @romomahbob
    @romomahbob ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love walksnail system. The penetration maybe dji better than ws. But the ws latency more stable and solid IMO

  • @Ardenup
    @Ardenup ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dji v1's analog?

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I was running dji v1 but nothing analog in this video

  • @chewyflies8297
    @chewyflies8297 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video broski.

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks bud! Looking forward to flying with you again soon 🤘🏻

  • @neilfpv
    @neilfpv ปีที่แล้ว

    This is amazing! I'm now interested in Avatar. Is it ok if you can upload a raww DVR recording from your walksnail goggles into Google Drive? Thanks a lot for doing this.

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Defo good idea, with the new race mode I’m gonna do a new video and cap card. I’ll try and uploads a raw for you in the next few days 👌🏻

    • @neilfpv
      @neilfpv ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks a lot@@genericfpv ! Are you happy with the Walksnail? Do you miss anything from your previous DJI goggles?

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@neilfpv very happy, and that’s a good question…. Maybe miss being able to watch my mates in my goggles, but as time going by I can watch other WS pilots once audience mode is better (it’s not stable currently). And it would be nicer when there is a bit more content on YT how to’s etc but that’s changing and fast. WS isn’t perfect, none of them are, but I am very happy and no regrets. Are you on Dji now?

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/T50iWKPOHTY/w-d-xo.html raw from dronefest, raw link in description. only quick clip but you get the idea :) if you want a longer one it will be another week or so sorry

  • @DRONEPOISON
    @DRONEPOISON ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video brother

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks man, means a lot I’m a fan of your vids! I’d Love to fly those pipes and pumps 🤘🏻

    • @DRONEPOISON
      @DRONEPOISON ปีที่แล้ว

      @@genericfpv sweet brother, glad to have ya brother, your welcome to rip with me anytime!

  • @jasonsuffolk
    @jasonsuffolk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im put off walksnail whoops because of the 3.1v video cut off,i hear especially on a 1s if you throttle hard and the power is getting low video cuts off ?

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      On my older packs after at the end of the pack it has happened twice, but when I’m HARD freestyle on old batteries. I’ve done 2 videos since this on WS whoops, one called igow4 and other about Racemode. I have a 1s 75mm which is amazing but if I want to go hard hard I still go for my 65mm analog it’s a different beast 😂 cheers

    • @jasonsuffolk
      @jasonsuffolk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@genericfpv what 75mm whoop do you have?

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jasonsuffolk Betafpv 75 walksnail, but over 6 months I’ve changed the motors to rcinpower 27kv which was easy swap as on plugs, and an ultra light canopy which was pretty easy swap, it’s about 8g lighter than stock and power to weight is much better. Flys really nice 👌🏻 what are you flying now?

    • @jasonsuffolk
      @jasonsuffolk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi,I'm flying a flywoo Explorer with dji 03 on,it's amazing i love it but want a small whoop for winter flying indoors and out a bit,thinking about getting a 75mm just not sure what yet

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@jasonsuffolk if you want to do proper flippy flops indoors then analog, if you want to cruise about indoors in crispy HD and dont want the horrible static then you can do a LOT on WS, i fly 50/50 indoors bewteen them. WS are coming out with new goggles in the next few weeks and suggests has built in analog which would be amazing. Annoyingly all 4 systems have their place and want our money :D

  • @drcobb84
    @drcobb84 ปีที่แล้ว

    so my dilemma is i got an Avata with the DJI Goggles 2, (not the V2) it looks crisp etc. but the main reason im wanting to get into full manual fpv is the range etc. do you have an opinion/experience with the Goggles 2, the advantage of getting something with the 03 is that i wouldnt have to buy goggles for a hobby im just getting into.
    keep up the awesome vids in the mean time

    • @zuldanfpv4634
      @zuldanfpv4634 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you want to do long range flying then you need Walksnail, HDZero or Analog. DJI limit the range you can fly.

    • @drcobb84
      @drcobb84 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zuldanfpv4634 ahh that sort of answers it for me the. Haha. Thank you for the reply

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว

      As zuldan says long range DJI has hard limits…. That said it is a long way, you’ll need some serious gear first. Lot of wing pilots use o3 fine. Do you have a range you are aiming for? And how many units as o3 gets expensive quickly

    • @drcobb84
      @drcobb84 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@genericfpv ahhh just anything better than my avata really. About 500m goggles start to lose signal quickly. Really just after 2km if that.

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว

      500m should be no problems, most standard 5” kwads will do 1-2km easily in open spaces easily. Trees kill range so maybe try flying but higher? Search on YT for “dji o3 long Range” some guy does 7km up a mountain! So I think your issue may be more environment/quad than goggles

  • @johnrosner8964
    @johnrosner8964 ปีที่แล้ว

    The avatars aren't too bad they have their advantages. I think you should have tried the DJ. I integrals. They are in much better goggle and the DJ I Our 3 system is it's a lot better than the avatars. The intent is on the integrals are not removable but you don't need better antennas. They work on par with the axis. I know because I have all 3 sets of goggles but it's OK 2nd best isn't too bad.

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว

      I can’t do DJI as I fly whoops, and I have tried the goggles 2, they are awesome but I needed to fly different size stuff. O3 is great, great time to be in FPV so many good options! Thanks for the watch

  • @zuldanfpv4634
    @zuldanfpv4634 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Subbed! Tip - If you want to get rid of grass smearing then run 720/100 at 50mb. Only problem with 50mb is if you fly with a lot of people the signal might interfere with other systems.

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that was YT compression it was pin sharp while I was editing 😂 I’m flying 720 but haven’t tried 50 yet so will thanks

    • @zuldanfpv4634
      @zuldanfpv4634 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@genericfpv All good. I didn’t notice any smearing in your video. Just a tip in case you ever get it in the future. I can’t see any video difference between 25mb and 50mb other than the improvement with grass smearing :)

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome thanks 🤘🏻

  • @Vousie
    @Vousie ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did you do the range/penetration test? I only saw a low-light test. And on the goggle DVR I saw no breakup at all, which is a bit odd too.

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว

      it was the same time as the low light, i went up 3 floors and about 100m, as comparison my friend on analog cannot fly past floor 1 and about 75m. 5:20 & 5:55 is where the signal drops. The way walksnail and dji record the footage is there is no breakup but you get latency and then it catches up on its self, in the goggles we see it as a stutter/lag. on the dvr it records all the frames in order so there is no lag/anything to see. the only way to actually see what i see is it i recorded it with a capture card. the bad spot happened on both dji and ws so neither did better or worse. and it was flyable because i was expecting it, thats the area i go to to stress test stuff, it fail safes on tracer in the same spot. Crossfire handles it no problems and yet to try ELRS there.
      I have a capture card so i will try and record it soon as now you mentioned it, thats good to see/compare, thanks

    • @Vousie
      @Vousie ปีที่แล้ว

      @@genericfpv I've seen recordings from DJI & Walksnail. They don't just "stutter and lag". They also get digital break up - like the bitrate has suddenly dropped to less than TH-cam's 240p mode. Then some streaking too. Your video has none of that, which was really strange.

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Vousienot too sure what to say, i don't get that. I was at dronefest and people were plugging in and i got blasted out, in the 2-3 seconds it did go to YT 240 pixelation before going totally black and crashing but when im flying normally on own or with mates i never see that. It was the same for DJI pilots. I got a capture card recently and im going to use that on the goggle in the next few weeks to do a video on race mode. I'll go to the same spot and recreate so you can see what it looks like in the goggles and i wont edit that part so you can see the range etc :)

    • @Vousie
      @Vousie ปีที่แล้ว

      @@genericfpv Have a look at some of Joshua Bardwell's range tests with Walksnail and DJI - they both do it in his videos, so it's really strange if you're not seeing it.

    • @ogpennywise
      @ogpennywise ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm guessing the few people "switching" to WS have actually gotten good units? The rest of us chumps are suffering from smeary images and low range.
      I wonder how they are QCing this stuff. If at all....

  • @verdi6092
    @verdi6092 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the only reason im switcing from g2 o3s to avatar... The nite cam

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว

      I do loads of night flying so def one for me, lot of dark bandos as well 🤘🏻

  • @lowkeyfpv
    @lowkeyfpv ปีที่แล้ว

    Yay!! I’m in a de video!!!! 😊

  • @ogpennywise
    @ogpennywise ปีที่แล้ว

    I've seen more videos in the last two months about people switching to WS from DJI, but haven't seen an increase in actual WS videos. Is that because everyone is just saying that because they are getting free stuff to review? Or are they just forgetting to record when they go out flying with all this WS gear?
    I find it strange that so many people have "switched" yet we have very few videos backing up these "actions".
    I find it more plausible that you are all eating crow after touting such an inferior product as good. WS should still be under testing, it is alpha at best. HDZ is closer to beta than WS but still under development. The image and range are horrible, especially on WS.
    But I do look forward to seeing some quality images come out of WS, I have yet to do so, and I have 5 WS quads.
    Just finished watching your video, and like all WS videos, mine included, it is barely better than almost all analog offerings. And analog has better penetration.

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว

      the more videos you watch on a subject the more YT recommends them to you 😐glad you have setups you like, happy flying

  • @fpvsmurf
    @fpvsmurf ปีที่แล้ว

    Only thing i don't like is they feel too curved on my face. The sales for them seem low...i was all in when they released and got rid of DJI.

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think (no actual idea) maybe sales are better as I’m seeing more people with them, but I still see more analog and Djibouti for sure

    • @ogpennywise
      @ogpennywise ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, those WS goggles are way too uncomfortable. A different, or alternative, foam padding would have been nice. But that would have added another 100 bucks to the price.

    • @fpvsmurf
      @fpvsmurf ปีที่แล้ว

      I used my nbd dji foam on them and its much better. I just had to get used to it...

  • @aloeisthestuff9622
    @aloeisthestuff9622 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have to look like you just came from a Homeless encampment to have one of these?

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว

      Encampment? Nah we are free range, classy comment judging people I’m sure you are the pinnacle of looks, brains, dress sense etc. consider me educated and I’ll go think about my life choices 😪

  • @mateuszpachulski6211
    @mateuszpachulski6211 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am finally ready to move to digital system but i have no idea which one :s lots of people are saying DJI o3 is the killer of everything else :s maybe u can help me out with the decision?

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching! Sadly I can’t 🫤 it’s such a personal thing, o3 is better video but walksnail is more flexible and damn good video still. What type of flying do you do?

    • @mateuszpachulski6211
      @mateuszpachulski6211 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@genericfpv i mainly do freestyle but also cruising around with a cinewhoop cinebot 30 also love my tinywhoop at home plus i got a toothpick 3 inch :p all analog as for now how about penetration like going inside of building isn't DJI o3 a winner 🏆?

    • @mateuszpachulski6211
      @mateuszpachulski6211 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@genericfpv i honestly think I will be fine with walksnail i am also happy with analog quality of the image but i am at the point of getting an upgrade i still can fly tinywhoops on analog no problems with that

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sounds like walksnail, I just got my ws whoop down to 30g and I have so much fun with it I’m playing IGOW and loving it. So far bando penetration is same as a vista so I’m happy, maybe o3 slightly better, but marginal. The cost and flexibility of WS is why I switched, stupid addictive hobby/life style 🤑

    • @mateuszpachulski6211
      @mateuszpachulski6211 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@genericfpv hahaha totally addictive :p can u tell me how much of a bigger difference the o3 is regards bando? Also what made u say sounds like a walksnail?:p thanks for all ur answers btw really helpful!

  • @riofpv
    @riofpv ปีที่แล้ว

    Try the O3 bro!

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i have, all my mates have it, doesn't fit on a whoop, great system but not the one for me :)

  • @lawrencewilson6498
    @lawrencewilson6498 ปีที่แล้ว

    😊

  • @kanaposd
    @kanaposd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't believe these reviews! JI on Vichy's head, I bought myself a new G and an avatar - an avatar of shit with a bunch of problems. The picture will be liked only by those who have just switched from analogue .. the quality of communication even with third-party antennas is nonsense. Barely sold them.

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not a review, load of friends asked me how I got on so made this video. Walksnail not for everyone but glad you found right system for you, cheers

    • @jimmytheriot8978
      @jimmytheriot8978 ปีที่แล้ว

      You must of got a bad set , I own all three systems and only fly walksnail now , I've been out 7miles so far with walksnail no problem

    • @zuldanfpv4634
      @zuldanfpv4634 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My Walksnail system (using Goggles) works perfectly.

    • @kanaposd
      @kanaposd ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimmytheriot8978 the fact is that this is not an isolated case, the units burn out, the connection is hoarse .. if you are satisfied that the freeze is where the ji has a clear picture - use it, I know that I hardly sold this shit. And many of my acquaintances, having played, also got rid of them. Perhaps you fly in the fields and forests, but where there is even the slightest radio interference, they hoot.

    • @jimmytheriot8978
      @jimmytheriot8978 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah!

  • @JaydenLawson
    @JaydenLawson ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome. Also on the Walksnail train and won't be buying DJI

  • @OneLovePsych
    @OneLovePsych ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro you should’ve upgraded to the V2 or integra. Never seen ANYONE move from DJI to Walksnail in my life, that’s insanity.

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤷‍♂️ can’t get o3 whoops, not ones I can freestyle. I’m happy with it and fly all same spots as mates on o3. Cheers for the watch ❤

    • @fpvsmurf
      @fpvsmurf ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm another. I dropped DJI for walksnail ...long ago! Initially walksnail was lackluster..has gotten waaay better.

    • @zuldanfpv4634
      @zuldanfpv4634 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’ve seen a ton of people move from DJI to Walksnail. It’s more common than you think.

    • @Kaz-ni5ym
      @Kaz-ni5ym ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Two words: tiny whoops

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Kaz-ni5ym 100% - im doing IGOW and learning so much (and in crunch HD) thanks bud!

  • @siniestrorave
    @siniestrorave 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    DHI sucks!!! walksnail is awesome and 4 all!!!

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i don't wanna get tribal - but yeahhhhhhhhhhh :D

  • @siniestrorave
    @siniestrorave ปีที่แล้ว

    Walksnail is awesome, DJI sucks!

    • @genericfpv
      @genericfpv  ปีที่แล้ว

      😁i do agree - but i think its still an awesome system, any of us are lucky to be flying any of the systems! i put my mates v2 goggles on again the other day and i had forgotten how big the screens are like imax, but then i put mine back on and forgot about it right away again :P cheers

    • @siniestrorave
      @siniestrorave ปีที่แล้ว

      @@genericfpv DJI es muy caro y no tienen 1S, no vale la pena. Walksnail esta creciendo y les va a abarcar todo el mercado, es cuestion de tiempo...nadie compra DJI ya salvo que no sepa nada