The Rise and Fall of Spencer Rattler: Film Breakdown of What REALLY Happened
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This week’s film breakdown analyzes the rise and fall of ex-Oklahoma Quarterback Spencer Rattler. Rattler was the Heisman favorite heading into the 2021 season, but then things swung wildly out of control. In the middle of his 6th game Rattler was benched and he never started for Oklahoma again. What happened? Why did Lincoln Riley bench him? This week’s episode uses the all-22 coaches film to analyze ex-Oklahoma Quarterback Spencer Rattler’s wild 2021 season.
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I think sometimes incredible talent needs to be paired with a willingness to be coached. For example, Josh Rosen is pretty gifted but even in college he ignored the coaches and has never really developed into the player that people projected.
Yep
And he looks like fucking big bird
Why I don't get the Jalen Hurts slander 🤷🤦
@@Stickystuck8 he seems very coachable with great leadership skills, which i didnt know about because i didnt pay too much attention to him in college
@@Stickystuck8 nfl doesnt like black qbs its known. I am a fan of hurts and the hate him,lamar, and kyler all get is ridiculous
This dude is the Carson Wentz of college football. Take what the defense gives you, kid.
😂😂
The Mahomes play style doesn’t work for everyone 🤷🏽♂️
@@connorberglund7032 he the Great Value Pat Mahomes
being a chiefs fan from Oklahoma you could imagine my frustration over the past year.
NO SHIT!!!🤣😂🤣 Rattler needs to learn what a check down is lol. Someone call the Palmer brothers!
His mental is my biggest question on him, he knows his talent better than anybody but is he willing to take steps to ensure that talent has a strong foundation to succeed? Who knows at this point but I hope so, all of these problems you talked about are very much fixable and he could be a freak at the NFL level.
I’m very excited to see this. He oddly reminds me of manziel. Not in a good way. Indecisive on easy throws, but will break the pocket and let it rip vs tight coverage. But with better arm talent and less athletic
Aesthetically he actually reminds me of a more skittish Derek Carr. Similar in the way they look when they move and ELITE arm talent. Carr's arm is incredibly underrated
@@AlexRollinsNFL that’s a great aesthetic comparison
Manziel could throw lol watch his last season
@@kingtaylor201 yeah I know. He actually could throw well. Tbh , I think Spencer throws even better. I’m no guru but yeah…. But Spencer gets rattled too often. Plus manziel did have just abo it as manny crappy throws as Spencer, but he had mike Evans and if I’m not mistaken another 6’4 receiver or two
@@YardratZ yeah rattler def better. i mean manziel threw some of the craziest passes that mike evans would just moss a 4v1 or sum like that
My favorite quote is “the season was painful in every sense of the word”. Why yes it was Alex😂 great breakdown, love the vids!
Truth
Sorry CJ, it was brutal to watch brother! Appreciate it
Ohh no my team only went 10-2 boohoo.
@@_gamepoint_ and? Had too much talent to have almost every game be that close. In all honesty it felt like our team was playing like a 6-6 team
Be the man, Spencer, thousands of Gamecock fans are behind you
Rattler had some bad turnovers but it was clear that after Caleb Williams played a few games the issue with the offense wasn't the QB it was mainly the Offensive Line and lack of run game. Which Williams being a Natural runner did help open things up more but definitely didn't help enough to finish the season. As OU lost 2 games and almost lost 4 with Williams starting at QB
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Thank you so much!
He seems like he has Grown and matures tremendously in his Micd up video! I love his energy and leadership vibes. I think he's gonna do great at USC
I had to sub lol I love the way you ended this vid.
Thanks Zion!
Spencer Rattler is the least coachable college football player since Tate Martell.
Haha doin Spencer like that, Tate is down BAD
They reminded me of one another on 'QB1: Beyond the Lights'. Arrogant and entitled.
Good point bringing up his technique and footwork. Sometimes, a coach shouldn't adapt to the QB but should make the QB adapt. Especially with a guy as talented as Rattler. Adapting to him will only worsen the issues at hand already.
Yes! I think it's so hard for college coaches cause usually those issues don't really pop up in college, so it's like do you want to sacrifice some of the short term to improve the player in the long term where they won't still be in the program?
As a lifetime OU fan and a 5 year coach this is a good breakdown, even if I'm seeing it two months late still wanted to comment.
One of the big thing my family talked about that kept Rattler down was his lack of leadership skills. There was a energy with the team when Williams came in and each time they put Rattler back in it would die. I doubt that his offense were fans of his so that subconscious effort threshold would kick in hard which compounded with his own poor performance.
Great analysis
Thank you brother!
His NFL dreams are in jeopardy if he doesn't fix his personality
This was great 👍🏼
Thanks Pops!
He’s an entitled player. Frustrating when egos get in the way of a talent’s success.
Antonio Brown and Le’Veon Bell are perfect examples… had they stopped acting like children they may have won a Super Bowl with Big Ben, instead neither are starters anymore and got beaten up and battered going to lesser teams.
@@davidwillis8623 what are you talking about AB left for a better team and got a ring lmao
@@davidwillis8623 AB got a ring lol. Pittsburgh wasn't winning one. Defense wasn't good enough when the offense was humming and Big Ben's arm gave out when the defense was finally decent
@@EZR725 pitt was capable of winning a SB they had the number 1 D a few years back
@@moalston4203 Like how back? Because Ben Roburger wasn't the same QB who was willing to adapt with changes in the offense which is why the Steelers pass attack ain't shit. Didn't help their O-line was poo poo as well.
The studied his film and has high completion percentage problems of short passers. Smother the short stuff with man and don't allow a streaking bomb to get through the secondary, he also seems to panic and looks deep because he's not scoring. His attempts and TDs are way down, probably because he is being managed and not converting 3rd downs.
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This was bound to happen with his attitude. JD deserved more
Can’t wait to watch this Alex! Rattler was a fun prospect to watch before his decline in college! Maybe Caleb can do better at OU.
Caleb transferred
@@Aaron-wq3jz he did? Where to? I don’t follow too much college football news, I know Rattler left because that was big headlines, but where did Caleb go?
@@secretsquirrel8797 to USC
@@secretsquirrel8797 USC lol
TH-cam just got everyone snitchin 🤣
Great video, as always. To me, Rattler is a prime example of the pitfalls today's upcoming star athletes face. They get a ton of attention early on (way too early) and that can lead to inflated egos, unwillingness to be coached or mentored and believing their own hype. I think we need to remember, too, all the outside factors that can mess with a player's head: family and friends seeing dollar signs, agents trying to worm their way in, HS and college boosters interfering and applying pressure, etc.
All I know is, when I was Rattler's age I was a clueless doofus but didn't know that I was, I thought I had things figured out. A guy in his position isn't just playing for his future, but he's got a stupid number of people burdening him with their expectations. It can't be easy.
But, to me, I don't see how this guy could possibly make any kind of impact in the NFL.
Thanks Alf, and thanks for the thoughtful comment. Especially with social media there is less of a spot light for playing the position the "correct" way. There was some crazy Tik Tok from a few years ago where Rattler 360 spins and rips a hole shot into the end zone. Looks sweet, but that translates 0 unfortunately
And yeah, I was a doofus too brother!
@@AlexRollinsNFL Bruh. I was living in Dallas at the time. (Right by Arlington) Rattler was TRASH in that Texas game. Can't put this weight on Lincoln Riley. Hopefully he'll do better at South Carolina.
As a lifelong sooner fan I want to thank Spencer Rattler for some of the greatest moments in Oklahoma football history. I also sincerely wish him the best at South Carolina. And can't wait to see him do his thing on Sundays
He ain't making it to the NFL.
Oooooo. This should be a good one 😮
Hope he turns it back into a rise. He's been resilient. I'd like to see him be successful in the NFL. We'll see.
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New video needed, rise and fall and then rise again of spencer rattler !!!!
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I wonder to what extent--if any--trying to emulate the "out of structure" playmaking of Patrick Mahomes contributed to Rattler's failings.
I think the NFL will be chasing the next Mahomes for years and pay severely for it
@@AlexRollinsNFL I think that you are correct. Banking on finding a player who can transcend the structure of a play is foolhardy. If you happen to be lucky enough to find such a rare player, then take advantage of the rare opportunity, but be aware that the vast majority of wannabes will fail with potentially devastating results.
I’m not so sure that chasing the next Mahomes is such a bad thing. The key is to get a guy who is good out of structure, but also able to play in structure. This is why Allen, Mahomes, and Herbert are so great. Even Joe Burrow (not an athletic monster like the previous 3 QBs I mentioned) is incredible when under pressure. Off structure ability helps quarterbacks, but you also need to be able to play in structure.
@@jarretberenson1214 I'd argue that Mahomes primarily won out of structure in college so it's dangerous to target QB prospects similar to him. Herbert won primarily in structure, but as you said he can create out of it too. I don't think we should be chasing the next Josh Allen, he was the extreme outlier of all outliers
@@AlexRollinsNFL Thank you for responding. That is a fair point. Herbert, Mahomes, and Allen were also in tremendous situations during their development. I’m sure that Trevor Lawrence and Zach Wilson wished they had a strong offensive line and Hill, Kelce, Diggs, Allen, Williams, or even Ekeler to throw to.
reminds me of malik henry from last chance u
Why does everybody want to be Bret Favre? Even Favre said he didn't know shit as a young QB, which means he was relying on luck to pull him through. That's not a good game plan.
if you can pull it off how much would owners and GM's pay to play for them? ask Pat and Josh, Everyones looking for the next Pat and Josh.
@@tvtda1 few will ever get them so they should be realistic and game plan around what strengths and weaknesses their players have
Playbook are hard asl to remember and learn especially NFL offenses a lot of them were jus throwing it to the open person or roll out and make some happen works til you at least learn the offense and how to read defenses look at Mahomes and Allen
@@tvtda1 Neither of them are trying to be Favre.
@@smokert5555 ehhh, They play the same style... Pat has Farve skills, Josh passes in a farve playstyle.
This is literally Russell Wilson in Sean Paytons offense. Wild.
Being a lineman by trade I shy away from being too critical of a QB because the fundamentals of the position have always been slightly beyond my understanding. I love this breakdown because you explain what is supposed to be done and even with not understanding how to time up a 5-7 step drop I can see that dude's footwork is non-existent.
Thanks Evan! Yeah, but it's hard to say how much of that was on Riley
“Epically fail”😭😂
I don’t know anything about Rattler. I just know going from top-rated quarterback to benched at your college is a bad turn of events.
Pretty ballsy to go to the SEC after flaming out, that's a different brand of football.. Seriously one of the most gifted arms I've ever seen
@@AlexRollinsNFL Shane Beamer is coaching, arm talent wise, the best QB South Carolina has ever had. Gonna be interesting to see, Rattler opens up their playbook immensely.
He's going to flourish in South Carolina.. Just watch.. And this is coming from an OU fan
I hope so!
Look at what Caleb Williams did tho after Spencer. He was only more successful because he was way more mobile. Both refused to take the open pass. Always the deep bomb
Can we get a breakdown of what went differently between sec championship and natty game
Not sure how much non draft college stuff I'll be diving into, but I'll put it on the list!
U had me at nickel Bradey skeet gate
I think Rattler is going to do a lot better at SC and surprise a lot of people. Riley was one foot out the door since the 3rd game, so it's no surprise he wasn't doing well.
I think so too.. draft was so weak this year at QB tho i wonder if it wasnt a mistake staying an extra year with such a weak QB class that just went through the draft. However, that extra year of experience usually bodes well when getting to the NFL as you are more experienced in situation.. See Justin Herbert, he even said his senior year made all the difference. I see him blowing up his draft stock and going pretty high this year. Wont go above Bryce or CJ but prob will be 3rd or 4th QB to go.
Also, knowing Lincoln was decided on leaving by the 3rd game, I believe he was searching for a moment to try Caleb out, to see what he has in him, so he could become a superstar, and be forever indebted to Lincoln for giving him a chance thus making him follow Lincoln to the school he chose a 100% guarantee.
Spencer was better than Caleb statistically and had Oklahoma undefeated this year. Their only losses came with Caleb at the helm and were caused by his mistakes. Cant help but wonder if they wouldnt have made the CFP with Spencer. After all, he had come back from losing in the first half and coming back for the win in the 2nd half literally every game that season. Being a 2nd year starter, any HC would've rode or died with Spencer in that Texas game regardless of his performance in said game unless he had performed poorly all year leading up to that game(See DJ ugialeilei) except Spencer didnt. He was on pace to do better than he had the year prior. Something is fishy, and if he never gets drafted.. Lincoln likely will be why and he literally ruined the kids chances to make the NFL if he doesnt ball out this year. Which I believe he will. Its just if he doesnt..
Nope. Sorry, he's just not good with decision making, which goes a long way. I dont care if you can throw a 70 yard pass.
@@BigstickNick - no pun intended, but Spencer definitely gets rattled easily. If he's in a game that he's not supposed to win and there's no pressure, his decision making is way better. His first year at Oklahoma he had something to prove and he was motivated to keep the starting job.
What most people are not getting is that Lincoln Riley had one foot out the door the entire season. Although the players probably didn’t know, that had to affect the team
Built bars forever!!!
As a Gamecock fan im going to blindly ignore all of this. No offense Alex. If he sucks ill come back in a year and join in lol
I feel you John! 😂
SPENCER RATTLER IS ACTUALLY A QUARTERBACK HE WAS ON MY MY MADDEN FRANCHISE
Can we get an update video? I saw he ended the last season pretty well.
he still sucks, that is the update lmao
Might want to Update the VID. This kid just tossed 6 TD's
Awe
I got bashed for predicting this when he came out as starter. What I said of predicament was related to how people look for the next who ever of his appearance alone. Now, Im sure those who bashed me has moved on from their mancrush of thinking he is next Maholmes and Im not a fan of either..
The dude should be watching this!
Riley only failed in convincing Rattler the necessary/needed off-field game-plan homework would also earn credits towards graduation thanks to the Education Dept. knowing their 'role.' Student-athlete, anyone? Regardless, without Rattler's demise the 'backup QB turns superstar'-storyline doesn't happen that glorious day in the Cotton Bowl. What a game!!!
My favorite team (Nebraska Cornhuskers) pursued this guy in the transfer portal. Thank god we didn’t get him. The Huskers are atrocious enough without a quarterback so blind
I hope he does well at carolina, but coming to the SEC is definitely not going to be any easier for him....
That's what I'm worried about. You gotta respect him for making the leap there
@@AlexRollinsNFL .....true, i think having beamer there helped with that transition...familiarity is always a good thing....but it will be interesting to see how he handles the improvement in defense across the board....
He looked like he was crying the first clip lol
Dang that's sad
I hope he makes a come back Ed
I feel like the same immature and cocky qb is gonna show up at South Carolina and struggle more than he did at OU. South Carolina doesn’t have the level of weapons as OU, is in the SEC, and hasn’t had a stable winning coach since Steve Spurrier was there
We dont have the level of weapons? Are you sure?
70 percent completion percentage for a career and 15-2 record as a starter .... I think a lot more went into the decline
My fear is that this is a picture of Trey Lance. It's going to be a long season if the Niners dump Jimmy G.
Are you sure you're not me? Trey is.. questionable
the sooners lost 2 out of 3 season games to end the regular season. there were other problems, protection issues make it hard to be comfortable and make reads
I agree! The protection was shoddy at best, that's why they tried to call so many deep PA shot with 7 and 8 blockers
Let's remember, Rattler left OU first. Then Riley left and took Williams with him. Now we see that Williams is probably going to be a first rounder, but I think Rattler has more potential. He grew allot at SC and even though he still made mistakes, he had to work with that O line they had. Everyone thinks a Heisman is the tell all be all for players, but if you look at it historically it is a death sentence for most QB's, Very few QB's have had an impressive NFL career after winning the Heisman.
it wwas ;itt sad to see may be he back
i think he would've still ended up the 1st QB of the board this year honestly, i'm waiting to see which dude thats avaliable is definitely better than spencer. Thats how bleh this current class is as draft prospects. He's risking a lot entering the fray next year... next year is gonna be insane, class quality, and hes part of the reason but still... tough crowd to stand out in next season.
In the SEC too! I kinda respect it though, he's seeking out the highest level of competition. It's make or break for him this year
@@AlexRollinsNFL CJ is That guy, Bryce has more buzz, DJ is bigger, Will Levis, Cam Ward, and Bo Nix have more upside. Casey Thompson, Jaren Hall, and Jake Haener are just as if not more productive and prolific. Cam Rising and JT and Kedon will all have their say as well and Spencer has fallen somewhere inbetween and could go anywhere from QB1 to the last guy of this group, with how things shake out. its gonna be some of the most fun times of our lives as fans of this position.
Baker, Kyler, and Caleb all played the same way escaping the pocket for no reason. Specifically Kyler because he struggles to see the middle of the field
HES PRETTY GOOD IN MY MADDEN FRANCHISE
This is how most fans think and it's why the quality of the game in college and NFL has went down.
15-2 as a starter doesn’t sound like a Fall for anyone. Especially completing 70% of passes. 🤔🤔
He got benched and had to transfer schools though
@@AlexRollinsNFL The QB who took over lost to OSU. You call it down fall but in reality Oklahoma didn’t do any better with Caleb. I meant Rattler won his conference championship.
For my own entertainment I hope he plays well at SC but I could care less about his success specifically after seeing how he acted in high school. Hopefully his character has turned around behind the scenes.
Submarine-scribble-e
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He will be a backup in the XFL
He was given the keys to the Ferrari and crashed straight into a wall.
Some
7:56 #3 Just threw a lineman.
This happened to max Browne too he was filthy in hs
Yeah rattler made some terrible mistakes. But the inconsistent effort to maintain the run game. Oline was bad which gives the QB ghosts. Felt he needed to run when pressure wasn't there as you said. Also contributed to bad footwork in the pocket as well. But looking at Caleb Williams regression over the season you have to question Lincoln Riley. Last but not least the team as a whole was not disciplined. Not held accountable and lacked leadership.
Lord, his footwork is awful. You just hope he'll be able to work on his issues and light it up with SC. I remember predicting, just like anyone else I guess, for him to be the next great thing in College Football before his first starting season.
Great video!
Thanks TLC! Yeah, it's horrible, and that's also on Riley. I think because he changed his scheme to accommodate Rattler's flaws, it made things even worse. Can't improve your footwork if the system has abandoned an emphasis on it
This was Zach Wilson pre injury
I remember when I was thinking this kid was gonna be the next Patrick Mahommes
With OU joining the SEC, do you think they have a chance of being at least being good in a conference that tough?
With both Rattler AND Williams gone to different teams as well as Lincoln Riley it wouldn't be a shock to see a dip in quality.
As of right now though they'd be okay. The scary part is how it'll affect recruiting.
Baylor and Oklahoma State have done well in recent years and you never know when TCU will randomly contend for the title themselves. If Oklahoma has a down year now, even if it's not THAT bad they could definitely finish third or even fourth in their conference.
Right now incoming recruits have questions about whether or not Oklahoma can hold up in the SEC with Riley gone. Questions can be overcome, but if Oklahoma struggles those questions become doubts and the players WILL go elsewhere just as the team enters a tougher conference.
The upcoming seasons will decide whether Oklahoma maintains its status as a top tier program, or if (like Texas) they wind up pretending their old glories mean they're anything other than a C level team for the foreseeable future.
They lost their coach and QB, it's going to be incredibly challenging
Lol. Geezus.
@Bolby Ballinger spoken like someone that's 100% clueless
@@AlexRollinsNFL 🤣🤣🤣🤣right
Low expectations for this guy. Never understood why ppl were high on him in the beginning
The classic case of someone just not being as good as advertised.
Have you seen some of the videos where he's doing the 360 degree spins and then throwing missiles? Pretty incredible, but translatable? So far naw
@@AlexRollinsNFL Watched Manziel do basically the same thing. Then teams just start rushing 3 or 4/run simulated pressures and its just game over.
@@dabbingtoast7743 hi
@@dabbingtoast7743 manziel was a ton better than rattler especially with athleticism and pocket awareness
I think he’ll have a great year at South Carolina.
I hope so!
This didn't age well
His ego is his downfall
5:06 lets be honest though this is a play made by the WR not the QB
Ahh it's Marcus mariota the college years
The defenses only get better in the NFL with virtually every player all conference.
Had to be one of the worst seasons of OU football in awhile. Lincoln Riley is the reason Spencer wasn’t better, man had his foot out the door.
Nah Spencer's played a part as well. Lincoln can't physically go out there and make him perform, spencer was just lazy and entitled. He finally got exposed
“then they started playing football”
Spencer Rattler...he's a qb that you either love or hate...
Boom. It's better to make the mistakes now in College than make them in the NFL. Keep that chip on your shoulder, and prove the world wrong!!
Exactly.Rooting for Rattler next season.
Love it brother! You're 100 right
Spencer Rattled
Even tho he’s shown himself to be a cocky douche, I hope this experience has humbled him a bit and he comes back better.
that right there.
Malik Henry vibes?? I read that Rattler was playing because he enjoyed begin the QB and all the perks that it brings alongside than playing football.
Honestly, if he is having footwork problems then that is the fault of Lincoln and the QB coach for not working with it on him.
How do you know they didn’t try
@@brianmyers4444 theres saying something to him, and then actually focusing on it with a player. As a coach, I know a player will ok you to death and never change until you make it a focus with them. And its clear they didnt do that.
This is giving me anxiety lol. What the hell happened??
Basically he went from the Heisman favorite in 2021 to getting benched half way through the year, then he transferred. TLDR some crashing and burning happened
Imo, it’s like watching someone who thinks it’s like Madden.
😂
He looks like that kind of dude that does the wrong things and then blame someone else.
Last straw was probably him blaming a fart on Riley
This is a PERFECT analysis of what Spencer does wrong every game. He never thinks damn this isn't working how can I get better. He's content with just being a college player. I see no NFL aspirations. Very good video. He's doing the same thing at Carolina now.
He still a kids crazy how we put each other down maybe he just need a different system
Who else is here after we upset Clemson and Tennessee