Edit: A few people have expressed(with good intentions) that I was too harsh on Raziel. I explain my reasoning here: th-cam.com/users/postUgkxrhgvdN-PKp_i6mDz5lofcDQLIeJ3g3D5 I did not intend to post this on Luca Kaneshiro's birthday... Anyways happy birthday to my favorite God Tier trap. FOLLOW MY TWITCH!! I STREAM 3 TIMES A WEEK THERE AND ON TH-cam(THIS CHANNEL)! www.twitch.tv/mujinofficial JOIN FOR UNHINGED ANONYMOUS! discord.gg/Mujin EVERY SINGLE ONE OF MY LINKS: linktr.ee/Mujin THANK YOU FOR WATCHING!!!! ❤
I mean, 80% of their male vtubers are clowns, and I'm willing to bet that the remaining 20% are just better at hiding their skeletons. It's not surprising to anyone with at least a half functional brain.
Lots of misinformation here the company did offer Selen to stay if she reflected and apologised She didn't and threatened them legally is why she got kicked out So where's the favouritism?
Vox "There's no favoritism in Nijisanji" Akuma. clearly shows how they favor luxiem cause the boys brings in money but right now the opposite is happening☠
the company did offer Selen to stay if she reflected and apologised She didn't and threatened them legally is why she got kicked out So where's the favouritism?
what's crazy is how he made us think differently of the relationship he has with his family. Back when I watched him, I'd see those clips of his mom being sweet to Luca (giving him food during stream), him showing how protective he was of his mom (the stories he'd tell), and the wholesome relationship he was with particularly his younger brother. so now idk what to think, were these wholesome moments all a facade? or was the whole "abusing" thing just a lie so that raziel would be there to give him comfort and eventually get emotionally attached to him (for purely manipulation)?
youre so right. when I watched him he seemed to care so much about his mom and would tell stories that did seem very real but after this video and learning about how much stuff he lied about to get her attention, I start to wonder if they are fake too.
Selen: Makes a lot of projects out her own pocket and gets fired for MV. Luca: Disclosure of information, Hiring third party, multiple breaches of contract. GETS REWARDED. Vox Akuma: ThErE's No FaVoRiTiSm In NiJiSaNjI 🤡
The reason why she didn't stop being his friend is that well, emotional manipulators make you feel bad for your own emotions. He intentionally used his mom to make her feel bad enough to not bring it up ever again
I can tell that as a woman I'm also weak to emotional attack but... She looks too dumb... Like I'm sorry to say that and we obviously don't know how their entire interaction went but she just seemed so pitifully dumb... Again, I'm sorry...
To add to the employee message about Luca saving his job, that employee (Yoshitaka Fumoto) is now the lead/executive of Nijisanji's overseas operations. Which means that this guy is covering Luca's ass and probably why he hasn't been terminated while others have been fired for much less
Luca: Constantly breaks the rules, breaches the contract and is a genuine piece of shit Nijisanji: i sleep Selen: Decides to add livers, including ones that resigned from the company, in her music video Nijisanji: REAL SHIT Edit: ...why the hell did i get so many likes on this comment good lord 💀💀
@@samuelclayhills3298not really when ninisanji favoritism doesnt count male or female.like they treat other male talent like shit then treat the blue dragon good.
Incompetent people who'd be immature or obedient enough on a leash? Not to be rude to the very... VERY few good livers there, but they can be a bit, pon when it comes to choosing words.
Releasing this video on Luca's birthday (April 10) is savage💀 Niji official Twitter just birthday greeted him too. Looks like Niji not gonna do anything for their favorites.
it is VITAL to understand that the mental processes behind being attached to an abuser is NOT rational. for many people, particularly women, emotional connections tends to override acknowledging a loved ones “obvious” abusive behavior. it is so easy to to look at Raziel’s lack of immediate action from an outside perspective and criticize her for doing so. while i understand that, her situation is something that is very difficult to understand if you haven’t experienced something similar as well. she likely felt an emotional obligation to him, especially because shes “the only one he’s comfortable telling” and its very clear he took advantage of her people pleasing mentalities. raziel is not at fault here and it breaks my heart to see there are people who blame this woman who has already endured horrible statements from the FANS OF HER ABUSER. that is a UNIQUELY PAINFUL situation and raziel should be receiving nothing but support for her bravery for exposing the hidden danger that man was.
I do feel bad for Raziel and man, it was stated that she did consult a psychologist. Like consulting one means you'd talk things out to realize the behavior that currently impairs your decision-making and this could pave solutions to change yourself. Idk what happened there but that means it didn't work for her since she went back for Luca. If only she realized sooner and if only there were people who actually approached and talked to her about it earlier. I'm not saying it's her fault but she did made a mistake along the way. The sad thing is that she didn't realize that and she kept staying. But at least right now, she's aware of it and I hope she gets better along the way. And I'm pretty sure a lot of people are with her right now. She's very brave.
And this is the mentality that breeds women to be victims. Dont listen to this bullshit no one controls your emotions and the worst thing you could ever do to yourself is not take responsibility for the things you do to yourself. Raz also took the action ALL vicrims of abuse should and seeked help but even after that help she still stayed. No one else can convince you to stay but you and i know that 100% because i was in an actual mentality abusive relationship and i know at the end of the day how hard it is to leave an abuser, but it was still my fucking choice to stay. Because if you dont take responsibility and learn from your actions youre going to be abused again because you let it happen to yourself. You can be a victim and still take responsibility for your abuse at the same time and both perspectives are true at the same exact time. Its not your fault it happened but just because its not your fault doesnt mean you should let it happen.
Yeah, it was so weird how he was constantly stopping to make fun of her for not leaving like he didn’t know how manipulative abusers work. There’s so much victim blaming in this video, it’s baffling.
you really siding with a groomer is crazyy She groomed Luca when he was underaged (while she was already married too) after Luca kicked her out she always tried her best to badmouth Luca, and you really believed everything she put out there??/ All i am seeing is a desperate attempt to tarnished a ex's reputation
Yall would be shocked to find out how many toxic people like this exists in real life and how absolutely unhinged they, their victims, and their audiences are.
I've been a volunteer mod for a big TH-camr that is a pretty shitty person but everyone to this day thinks is an amazing guy, so nothing surprises me anymore. It all comes out eventually. It's just so much easier to hide in online then irl.
@@GummyDinosaursify Bro expose them wtf are you waiting for. SOMEONE steps out to make it all come out, if you're the only one who knows then you could be the only hope to getting a horrible person off of their platform and influence.
You forgot an important bit: The exec that personally thanked Luca for saving his career got promoted to an even higher position within Anycolor. Luca will NEVER get terminated because he has quite literally a big fish protecting him. He's done far more and worse than Zaion and Selen and they're the ones that got the axe for... Not toeing the line?
In this video, Mujin spent the most time pointing and laughing at raz instead of criticizing luca. I know he made a longer post to explain, but it's still clear that Mujin doesn't understand abuse and low self-worth. Im glad he doesn't have to deal with it, but some do. Why put an abuser and her on the same level by saying there aren't any clear good/bad guys here? She made mistakes, and it's fine to point them out, but to me, this looks like a woman who had issues with self-worth, conflict resolution, and boundary-setting, which all speak to intense people pleasing behavior. She mentioned a history of abuse in the past, so it's possible she learned to be a self-destructive people-pleaser in her youth. She had enough anxiety and depression that she even considered suicide. She needs therapy, yes, but not ridicule. I see some of my past in her actions and though she's very misguided, making a person who is used, abused, and doesn't have the self-worth to see themselves out of it doesn't deserve being the butt of a joke. She was so desperate to be needed, to have a friend, that she devalued herself enough to put up with abuse. How does that put her on the same level with Luca?
One thing that was not mentioned in this video, was the fact said Luca 2024 Birthday merch, showed a signature. The issue? The signature looked VERY different then the signatures in the 2022 and 2023 Birthday merch. And Raziel mentioned she would do the signatures for him before she left. The more time passes, the more it turns out the Raziel document is true.
That's me with Vox. Like, I avoided his adult Asmr streams like fire but outside of that he seemed so entertaining and....elegant? ( and I loved his art) And then he does that black screen video and it's like my rose tinted glasses cracked on my face I unsubbed from all of them at this point, no one is safe bet in that company. ( I main Bladie too, good choice)
I still hold out hope for Shu, Rosemi, Scarle, Ren, maybe Aia, maybe Reimu, maybe Ver, and maybe Vivi and Kunai. The ones I've lost hope for are, well, basically everyone else except Ike, Fulgur, Maria, Vanta and Zali.
She didn't leave him because the point of manipulation is to make you feel stuck in this relationship although you're not. Your entire life revolves around the manipulator. Poor girl, I'm sad and tired for her really.
@@Neoflares I think we don't know her well enough to say whether they're susceptible to that type of manipulation or not. There are a lot of reasons someone who is an adult can be susceptible to that. Either they never encountered it before, so they never had to learn the tools against it, or maybe they have had these types of relationships all their lives and it's normal so they just don't have the experience getting away. Or they have super unhealthy ways to cope with this type of relationship and coast through on those, never trying any better.
Im not an abuse victim and although it was stupid that Raziel still didnt leave it doesn't take me one or two braincells to think "Hey! How is she being blamed for this? Shes the one being manipulated" or atleast thats what my last 2 braincells thought I mean the rest dont wanna be included in this shit
As a victim also, I spent 4 years being abused by someone and he knew exactly how to keep me in the relationship. Usually, he would guilt me or tell me how he was struggling to deal with the loss of his brother who died from cancer, or when his mom was abusing him so he put his frustration onto me. He always worded these things for me to sympathize and immediately comfort him, despite how he always did it to stray away from all the abuse he did to me a moment before. The only reason I ever realized all of it was wrong was when I had someone else outside of the relationship tell me that what I told them of my experience with my bf was not normal and not ok. In fact, I didn't know it was abuse at all. That's how bad the manipulation was - that's why I never left. I didn't know it wasn't normal. And perhaps, it was the same for Raziel.
First of all, we are seeing the incidents all at once. In real time, this took place over a long period of time. I’m sure that in between these, he was nice or toned down to where she developed an feeling of “well sometimes he just acts out”. A classic “you don’t know him like I do” mentality. I would imagine she also felt sorry for him due to how he claimed his mother was abusive and she felt like she’d be “abandoning” him. People really don’t get how hard it can be to get away from an abusive relationship.
@@zipfling11 I read both of your comments, and it reads as though you're both in full agreement? Correct me if I'm wrong. Invisibli: "I'm not an abuse victim, and although it was stupid Raziel still didn't leave, it doesn't take a genius to think 'She was manipulated; it's unfair she's being blamed for this.'" You: "'I don't know anything, but you're wrong and I'm right' It may seem easy to leave an abusive relationship to some, but you don't know how it feels." Hope that may clear things up?
OH HELL NAH 😭 Bro i hope shes okay for now, i was about get into luca and his fan base but OML, THIS JUST BROKE MY JAW AND 360 SPIN MY HEAD AND MY BRAIN YELLLING OUT "LUCA WTF"
Tbf raziel was his groomer, their dynamic only changed since luca joined niji meaning he is now in more power in the relationship (fame, money, larger friend circles) and the relationship changed into luca manipulating and using her while it used to be the opposite back then. Don't really know the raziel deserve better part as she is also disgusting(you can see her past records) but i think we can agree that its a toxic relationship that needs to stop.
@@ДарьяДарина-ж5к I dont know about you but to me that is still grooming. 18 is still in last year of highschool or just graduated, they're still not that different or more mature than still being in school yet. 20 and 26 is okay but 18 and 24 is still....eh...red flag. Not to mention raziel and java was interacting in an inappropriate way while raziel is married.
Nah More Like Vampire Luca Sucks the Victim Blood Extremely Fresh and Make Raziel his Favourite Slave and Almost Used to the point She Dies on all fronts and accounts , until major big event that backstabs her then she wakes up too late all accumulation stacking damage have been done and beyond restoring toxic relationship was the last straw , i mean he used her like aka joker and harley quinn after she showed signs of breaking down and he doubledown on that , lastly full nuclear from Raziel which yes she had all times she could ended the toxic friend BS Relationship was long gone at that time , he knows but she does not , slaving her way for luca for a complete meltdown and full on nuclear
I know there were a lot of laughs because the situation is ridiculous, but man, all I could hear from this whole situation is just a mess of an abusive relationship. It's definitely not the usual love relationship, but an abusive relationship is an abusive relationship. Like, holy fuck.
They were both pretty awful people, stop martyrising her, she released ALL the messages so all of it was aired out fairly. I don't know why people have to pick a side. You don't. You can be appalled by two things equally.
@@signumxmagnumno it did not really look like that it felt as if he was emotionally manipulating by saying his parents are abusive making her feel bad for him and that she was the only good person he knew and he was pretty good at manipulating her guilt trapping and gaslighting
@@Kalavani-vz2cz Even if he guilt tripping her, she wouldn't be around him if she doesn't have any feeling herself. There's no way they were "friend" only with that kind of relationship for years, even after trying to distance and doing therapy, the first thing she do is going to him.
@@signumxmagnum you literally cannot just tell someone to get out of a toxic relationship there is a lot of things that go on behind the screens that we don't know how bad the manipulation was we do not have any idea what was going on remember this document is probably a bit simplified
As someone who's been with a very toxic ex and who abused me till I was a mental trainwreck. He manipulated me into staying, he would constantly switch between being toxic and giving me all his love which lead to me being very dependent of him. I stayed... for 2 years... he made me feel bad for everything he's done. And to this day blames me for, for example, not leaving. (he even blamed me for cheating). Yes, narcissistic/ manupilative/ toxic people, they won't let you leave. I can't imagine how scared she must have been. I felt like my ex would ruin my life if I left. Small update for anyone who cares: We broke up about 1,5 month ago and I had to actually block him to detach myself. I've been doing better than ever since. I met some other guys who care about me and I'm going to meet with more friends:) (I felt restricted to do so in my relationship)
@@moneythailand1149 Me too! I actually got another boyfriend in the meanwhile but he ended up being a creep so we broke up too. I've been doing great though, been going out and meeting new people. How are you?
im so glad your romantic life has taken a change for the better :'D you did yourself a big favor and i am so proud of you for that. I wish for a happy and lasting relationship with your new significant other!!!
@@cloudwalker9572 also she attempted unalive and she was getting massive amount of hate and death threats. There is no way she is evil as Vox or Luca, no way she’s comparable to them.
@@cloudwalker9572 he also was not afraid to nuke an entire gen, cause he knows they'll be a problem in the future. but still made sure there was no hard feelings. cause well... it was been a long time now, and I barely heard any drama that came from the Chinese branch of hololive.
Nah, dude. Good information but horrible take. She's an abuse victim. Abuse victims are at high risk for repeat abuse. The vulnerability that leads to this kind of captive abuse usually starts young.
They are at a high risk for repeated abuse because they never take responsibility for their part in the abuse so they never learn how to keep themselfs from being abused. I was mentality abused by family and lovers, and in none of these situations did i pass off 100% of the blame to the abuser, because i CHOSE to stay. When the mass public is aware of a subject such as mental abuse and there are options for help EVERYWHERE, even just a google search to look up common patterns of mental abuse you cant plead ignorance to the responsibility of your own well being. If someone told me they are gonna punch me and the face, and i dont leave them alone or move away, me getting punched is my fault. The first time someones abused its not their fault how could they have seen it, but if its over and over and you know what it looks like its your fault and building this victimhood blanket is only going to make more abused people because everyones being taught that its only the abuser fault not the victims. You can be a victim and still have something be your fault it happens all the time. Live with it just like everyone else.
Yeah he kept laughing like she was ridiculous but when you get manipulated like this it is very serious and i deeply disrupts your ability to value yourself without that person and your self-dependability. Toxic relationships are notable because they are so damaging and the victim cannot leave. If they judge the situation properly and leaving was painless and easy they would, but that's not how these relationships work.
@@dizzy2445 as someone who's had multiple people close to me sustain years of abuse and refuse help at every turn while standing by their abuser, there's a point where empathy runs out and the weakness becomes wickedness
I made a mistake with making myself too attached to Luca.. My heart incredibly hurts and I am so upset of what he's done to raziel. I can't believe I got manipulated by his so-called "nice" personality.. I hope I get to hear his side of the story, rn I really believe raziel rn
@@moxie6293 What are you even talking about? Well of course celebrity fans are delusional. Literally all popular figures, especially streamers, are acting, none of their personality is actually real. Did you actually expect anything else?
@@Malakai__WeLoveYouMafumafu god im only subscribed to Fulgur and Uki at this point as they both seem like comfort streamers with mature characters, i would feel like im stabbed in the heart if it turned out to be opposite
The victim blaming is crazy. On average it takes about 7 times for someone to attempt to leave an abusive relationship before they really can. The lack of empathy for Raziel is actually criminal
@@trappedfan5206 that’s not an excuse. Men should have empathy for women, as they should have empathy for everyone. There are plenty men in this world who do, there’s no excuse for other men who don’t
It has really bothered me when he said there is no good or bad in such situation because then he is just making her look bad for having a good heart for someone who doesn't deserve it, he is right about it that it's wrong and should have left long time ago, it's wrong to be naive all the time but it doesn't mean she is bad as luca
Leaving a toxic relationship, especially if they have isolated you, is not as easy as "Oh just leave". That is king of very insensitive thing to say, even if leaving is the correct action. You said it yourself, they are both not mentally well.
I think it is worth noting that she is the only narrator here. I do not trust the whole of the framing going on here. I think they are both messed up. She was an adult in a relationship when she started this with an 18yr old? Doesn't stand up to the smell test.
@@titheproven954 Yeah, for sure, a single source of information is rarely reliable and she doesn't seem all that innocent. But 20 y.o. is barely adult, a lot of people still tend to make mistakes at that age, hec older peole ar not imune to mistakes and manipulation either, that part is normal. Not to mention it isn't clear what her background was, at least from this video or I skipped it...
@@kitycheeha She was 6 years older at those ages it is a rather large gap and the mentality of a 18year old boy vs a 24 year old women is not nothing. I just think it is something a lot of people are just glossing over
I think the reason why Raziel stayed friends with Luca is because sometimes people are too nice and often easily manipulated. Raziel probably felt like she was ruining a long lasting friendship by cutting herself off from Luca since they had been friends since 2018 and had a "decent" relationship with him since then. I bet at first she was only helping Luca with his duties at Nijisanji but she kept doing them so much that Luca could not function without her help and therefore made her feel obligated to help him with everything. I mean, I thought I would deal with a toxic friendship like a normal person would but I couldn't break myself off of her because we had been friends since 4th grade. She would make me join social media that I never was supposed to have (I was 11), show me porn (still 11), force me to watch a video of a girl throwing up and eating it, (again, 11), and show me a picture of dead little kid after I said I never wanted to see it (you guessed it, 11). I hated how I felt when she would do this but I couldn't bring myself to end our friendship because we had been through a lot together and we had been friends for over 2 years. I understand how Raziel felt because I felt the same thing. Proud of her for finally breaking off 🥳 Edit: But I also forgot to mention, Raziel isn't totally in the right. She's made pretty bad decisions during her friendship with Luca. Why as an adult was she okay with a 17-18 year old being so close to her and so obsessed with her. Morally, it should have set off many alarms. Acting as if it was normal and okay made the situation worse. It enables him to think it's okay to act like this with Raziel and normalizes his behavior with herself, that bleeding onto his behavior in relationships with other people (Now he thinks its cool to harass people). Doesn't change that Luca is an absolute jerk, but Raziel isn't that innocent as people say.
Please correct me if I’m wrong but the touching himself thing happened not that long into their friendship, right? no way would I know that someone touched themselves to me without my consent and I act like nothing happened. I have a very close friend and if I knew he did that I literally would never even be able to think of him without being disgusted. I hate to use this, but she is in fact older and she should’ve made her boundaries known and maybe even block him since it was an online friendship (ik sometimes it’s hard to know if you’re being manipulated/abused BUT I think this would make anyone want to cut that person off). She saw him develop that codependent toxic friendship, but instead of saying something to her then partner (if she did, that partner would’ve probably told her to stop talking to him), she leaned into the obsessed 18 year old and they both turned toxic. I obviously have no way of knowing but I’m wondering if she, too, turned obsessed/possessive towards him or was it just him. I’m not a fan of how people think one is horrible while the other is innocent. Both seem pretty bad and toxic to one another, and they should’ve ended their friendship long ago. I also don’t like how she went back to him and didn’t like when he ignored her when she said she didn’t want to be friends anymore, that part confused me. Oh and one thing that actually pissed off was how she publicized his abuse and who/what that abuse(r) was, it wasn’t her trauma to say at all. Him being abused doesn’t accuse what he did, so her bringing that up was very unnecessary imo. Sorry for ranting, but seeing how you have an experience with a “friendship” like that, I hope you can give me your perspective and correct me. Sorry if I came across as rude/uneducated
@@maryam-nusa my ex friend and i had been friends since 4th grade and we had been acquainted in 3rd grade and we became closer due to our mutual friends. i didnt want to break off because we had been friends for a while and made memories with eachother. we were also still friends with the same people so if i did break off it wouldve been awkward. she made me do stuff that i wasnt allowed to and i did it because i liked her and wanted to still be her friend. and yeah both of them are far from innocent but there is going to be the one person who started it. for me i believed that i wasnt in the wrong but looking back i did whatever she wanted and basically let her know that what she was doing to me was okay which it was def not. shes friends with horrible people now.
@@maryam-nusa (TW: opinion)this was so well said. people are so blinded by her opinion and own issues that they're not seeing that she's a grown ass woman who can make her own decisions. the fact that she still stayed after ALL OF THIS is by then her own doing. I'm not justifying what Luca did either, but clearly they are incompatible as friends and never will be anything more than that. as for the original commenter (yugoify) you were literally a kid when that all happened, raziel is a grown woman and you were a minor who could easily be influenced. that comparison doesn't make any sense at all. You were not developed enough to realize the issue. take it from me, I got rid of 2 long year friendships of mine and I'm still a minor myself, near adult years but still young enough to know my own self worth. and I understand people have different tolerances to mental abuse but trust me when I say despite everything I've been through as a person it was hard for me too but I still managed. She had so many chances, AS AN ADDULLTTT may I add, talking to Luca when he was still young himself may I add again, to find an opening to escape. especially when he offered. long story short they were never meant to be friends. period. both of them are in the wrong here, even if raziel was a victim she shouldn't have stooped this low because clearly it was her who was also emotionally attached.
@@lost_to_time. yeah, shit like this makes me fear for putting trust in Uki and Vox (my oshis of Niji En)- especially because everyone in the niji en community keeps bringing Vox into this 🤪
@@matsu5010 honestly, i always got like weirdish vibes from luca, but i think it's just cause i didn't like the way he said pog constantly 💀 call me an edgy 14 year old (i was then) but it annoyed me and threw me off. As my boss would say "childish vs. childlike? which one are you being?" and it always came across really childish, which does have its market, but making dirty jokes with vox akuma is not that market (not shading vox, he's my oshi)
@@grape._.panta. I guess to me it just felt charming and a bit silly, I never got creepy vibes but now I wish I had. I haven’t been super into vtubers in the past months but I still liked them, but all of this is shocking, Ike is genuinely my last hope and even I don’t know if he’s in the clear 😭
I’m assuming the reason she didn’t leave is because she pity him for the abuse and probably made excuses for his behavior it could also be a white knight complex as well I honestly can’t blame her Edit: In THAT department I’m not taking any sides not sure if I will at any point
no, I'm not taking her side. I'm taking no one's side lmaoo. that said, having finished watching the video, I believe she should have talked to someone about it and thus, pulled herself away from him early on.
@@eneorthat's the thing tho. These types of people will try to isolate you from your social circles so you have no one but them to rely on That's why many victims of emotional manipulators don't feel confident that they could leave. They think "they're the only person I have left", not realizing they're the reason they have no one else
@@spectre9340 Yep. Very common for victims to literally push away everyone else without realizing it till there is no one else. Maladaptive schemas tend to play a role.
There is a reason why victims seldom leave their abusers. They were/are being emotionally manipulated. The same has happened here as well, it was established early on in their relationship with the abusive mother. Furthermore, abusers search for their potential victims, usually more empathetic people, who are prone to put the well being of others above their own, due to their own circumstances (trauma, family education, etc). Putting blame on her for "why are you not leaving/stopping contact with him" is the worst part of this video. The fault is entirely on the abuser for being a gigantic, manipulative, stinking pile of shit.
But at the same time Leave him Victim blaming isnt cool. But normalizing that isnt well either. People should be made more aware to not fall into such manipulative traps. Sympathizing with her is ok. Glorifying what she did is not which is what im seeing some places. What she did should be copied. People like Luca SHOULD be removed from contact lists immediately. Post the touching dong stuff
@@the8bitclicker_193 Those cases aren't solved by moving your mouse and clicking block. You're acting like she's chained to Luca's bed in Australia or some shit lol
You need to go easier on Raziel. Constantly going “she should’ve ended their friendship” “why would she do this” “I don’t know why, was he holding a gun to her head” really undermines the effects of manipulation. It’s literally text book. You feel like that person relies on you, you care about them, and failure to do what they want equals to abandoning them and might end up with them hurt- or at least that’s how the manipulation makes you think. You’re literally blaming HER for HIS manipulation
He gave her an exit, I understand manipulation is hard to get through but she is an adult with her own mind to think for herself. Anyone could see the situation and the fact no one she knew around her helped her out goes to show her environment was horrible. That in its self isn't her fault but what mujin saying if you even listened was that he felt bad for her, but there were many openings to know her self worth and leave the situation. It's so hard, and I understand that, but i've seen and been in a similar situation myself to know that there is always a way out. It may take some time, but eventually it'll be over with. With her coming out with this document to begin with means she hasn't yet moved on from the situation and the fact she brought public eye on it instead of just leaving it and never talking to Luca again, the situation escalated. If I were raziel, I would want to leave it all behind and move on with my life, if she really wanted to tell someone how she felt she could have told someone close to her or a therapist. there were so many better ways to handle this situation and I don't believe this was the right choice, the internet is a horrible place and the internet is how this ALL started, going back to the same place again was foolish.
@@tartyjuice of course there’s always a way out, and she did break off contact eventually from my understanding, but nobody should be making fun of a victim before they managed to get out of their abusive situation. Besides, not all manipulation is malevolent. I don’t believe Luca himself was malevolent in their relationship, he seems to have been desperate and had some deeply unhealthy tendencies which ended up hurting both him and the people around them. It’s easier to leave when the situation is black and white like we see it from an observer’s viewpoint, but I’m sure that there was way more to their friendship than the bad parts. Besides, people are different. I for one am way more vulnerable to manipulation and codependency, because I’m a highly empathetic person, and I sometimes feel like setting boundaries for myself is a form of betrayal. A lot of things can factor in, like self esteem issues or social isolation etc etc. All in all. Of course she should’ve left. But I get why she didn’t. You can’t laugh at someone stuck in a bad situation even if they could’ve avoided it the same way you can’t laugh at someone who got hit by a car when they could’ve been more careful. Sure, they could’ve done things differently, but ultimately it’s them who suffered the most. Besides, the only person who should be blamed for this is Luca. Yeah, she could’ve left, but he’s the one who hurt her, and blaming her kind of excuses him. (Also. Her coming out with the document is the best thing she could’ve done, in my opinion. It’s closure, and also serves as a warning to not give your trusts to someone undeserving of it)
@stareyesfujiiEveryone is the asshole at this point. Luca is at fault, Nijinisanji is at fault, and so is Raziel to an extent. Btw she wasn’t married but in a long term committed relationship before Luca
manipulation, the goal is to make you dependable of them, she was isolated so she only had him. it can be hard for victims to leave. You shouldn't judge Raziel for "staying", it's easier when you know the pattern to leave, i recommend you research on the subject to understand more the psychology of the victim.
@georgebootoo4026 for real. Long term relationship, but your girl rp's with some gay-baiting guy and leaves you for him. Yeah, he dodged a bullet with this for sure.
thank you for summing up the document, but jeez man, chill with the victim blaming, yes this is a weird situation, yes in hindsight you may say she had many chances, but we really don't know how it really was do we
Want to add something, yes, she is a groomer (Luca was a minor when she approached him). That doesn't mean she was abbused by him, no one deserves to be a victim in any way.
the laughing while stating the obvious "just leave him" just hurt... when you're in abuse you cant just leave considering multiple times that you've been manipulated, i think you actually need help to get out of that situation... its hard leaving out of your own will. i feel sorry for her but it is true that she is at fault as well. she should've start detaching from him and completely cut it off the moment they talked about to lessen their contact from each other. hoping raziel gets recovery soon and luca owns up to all this twisted stuff he caused... though im not expecting anymore.
No literally and it’s making me mad.. It’s like people don’t understand basic sociology. It’s manipulation for a reason- she even stated it evolved into a codependent type of manipulation?? I’m glad she was able to remove herself from the situation *at all.* It takes a lot of mental strength when you’re depressed to overcome shit like this because you sympathize with the other person heavily because they’re also in a personally fucked situation. And that’s literally only the tip of the iceberg. There’s so much more complexity to manipulative relationships than what other people skew their focus to and it’s actually mind boggling that it’s not common knowledge apparently.
It was all virtual, it's not like she was scared for her life, in the real world. She has serious mental health issue, in her situation is was insanely easy to just stop. Sometimes it's hard because your whole entourage will hear about it and something virtual can affect your whole life BUT this wasn't one of those time, it's actually that easy: just drop him. Yet she chose to keep doing this. They're both weirdos
@@legacymse7095 How ignorant do you have to be to read all of the above commnents and still say this? Ae you aware of what manipulation is? grooming, codepencies, financial abuse etc. Oh yeah, that little girl on discord talking to a thirty man could have just stopped being friends with him! Oh yeah, this emotionally manipulated woman could have easily left this situation because its online, its not like Luca used trauma-bonding to make her feel responsible for him and exploited her empathy! Seriously, literally ANYTHING can affect your entire life, especially other humans, and you dont even have to know what they look like. I hope you'll eventually reconsider your values and morals if you genuinely think like this.
35:55 I was in a toxic friendship, always with unaliving thought, etc. and it’s really not easy to just go. She was, sad to say, completely gone and obsessed. I was in a toxic friendship for almost 10 years, leaving is not just a quick thing to do and can cause a great danger to one mental health
I feel bad for Shu and Ike. Ike clearly wasn't comfortable doing the black 15 minute stream and sounded like he'd just cried (even said the stream was a bad idea if I recall) and Shu's just there trying to be his old self and translate for the corps (even if bad) from English to Japanese and vice versa. I just hope they know where they stand and manage to keep and open mind despite being in the favoured wave, though I think these two can, but still I hope they stay safe.
Here we can once again see how hard it is to leave a toxic relationship when you're constantly being guilt tripped and trauma dumped. Blaming her in the way you do feels kinda off. But yeah, toxic relationships need to be ended faster, but very often they are kept going because manipulation works.
Sometimes you can tell when someone hasn't been part of one or seen one when they say stuff like this, because the thing is, the red flags are obvious in hindsight but we're literally seeing the aftermath and the full picture, of course we see it NOW. Because Raziel saw it and is showing us her own, painful realization that she was used and spat out by Luca when convenient for him.
It varies from person to person but if I was in her place no amount of guilt trip would stop me from leaving that kind of friendship ngl. She was smart enough to put boundaries at first but not smart enough to leave when she had the chance. If she needed someone for comfort she probably has other friends right? Idk much about her or she can make new friends (good friends who actually care) so it's questionable why she just didn't leave.
@@SapphireYuna It was literally mentioned in the video that he had managed to isolate her from her friends. And yeah, everyone thinks that they would manage to see the red flags and leave, I'm 99% sure so did Raziel before all this happened.
@@SapphireYunathe signs came to her time and time again. He breached her trust from years on end. I know plenty of empathetic people who may fall for the trap but they wont choose the stay after a few problem..especially like the touching dong incident
@@pluggedfinn-bj3hn I kinda skip through some part so I probably missed it. But ye like you said it is easier said than done. It's hard to say what'd actually happen if I was in her place. I'll say tho I have experience getting people like them to their knees (just have some experience going around and dealing with bad people, don't ask why I used to do that) but ye I doubt he'd give up easily. Well what I'm saying is unless someone physically threatened me I'm definitely fighting back. At the very least it's nice that people can't blackmail me with something because I don't have anything important that needs to be kept secret. I probably shouldn't be proud of this but I've forced a lot of people to their limits lol sorry it's kinda funny remembering their reactions. Bad people ofc some of them hurt my friend back then. Sorry it's little out of topic. It kinda reminded me of my friend's situation from the past and I just decided to let it out.
I would have enjoyed this documentary if you weren’t laughing your ass off. What Raziel experienced, I believe can still be regarded as sexual assault. It was horrifying and confusing because everything is happening so fast. For you to continuously laughing at her situation is not okay, it’s disrespectful and very unsympathetic towards her as a victim. This is disappointing.
Well she was 6 years older than him and didn't say anything about him beating himself even when she has a boyfriend. Luca is definitely in the wrong but she's not completely innocent either. Mind u this is from her perspective so she can be leaving out details.
esp the last part where he was like you had multiple chances to leave and didnt, so its consensual?/ LIKE WHAT. NO? BC SHE DIDNT LEAVE DOESNT MAKE IT CONSENSUAL THATS CRAZY
yknow funny enough I expected a drama like this to eventually happen given I used to play vrchat back in 2016 and vrchat dramas happened so commonly especially with TH-camrs given that vr really blurs the lines and filters peoole usually put on when making content. When vtubing became popular in my head i was thinking itd only be a matter before they swap over to vrchat and then the chaos would ensue. Boy was i right lol this is like deja vu but its funnier that it happened to nijisanji considering their current track record of shit happening 😭
The revolutionary Luxiem Wave consisting of 1. Shu Yamino 2. Ike Eveland (who does everything aslong as he can stay close to his japanese Oshis) 3. Dox (there is no favoritism in Nijisanji EN) Akuma 4. The guy that took his lore too literaly and 5. The one who got away / the smartest of them all
@tonythong5352 Well, if that happens NijiEN might be over altogether. The Selen drama hit them hard and since it's mainly the english talents who cause Nijisanji problems it would be wisest to shut that part down entirely.
ok here’s the thing right, you talking about the fact she would’ve left multiple times was actually getting uncomfortable at one point. abuse victims find it really hard to leave the abuser themself as they get too emotionally attached to the abuser so raziel was not at fault at all. raziel seems highly empathic which can be the reason she never left luca because she pitied him
She is absolutely at fault. This wasn't a physical relationship. I do agree if someone is actively living with an abuser then sure it's harder to leave, but this was over DISCORD! That makes it 10000x easier to cut contact. She is a grown woman and needs to take responsibility.
@@JewJitSuSixty9 see you don’t get how bad attachment issues can get. and she obv had SEVERE attachment issues. it’s easy to get attached to people online too. no matter how shitty the person is. stop blaming the victim.
@@JewJitSuSixty9 I ernestly ask you to be humble, leave any assumptions at the door and investigate this topic. Abusive relationships are notable because the victim usually can leave physically but that is rarely ever the primary thing keeping them in the relationship. You have to make the psychological connection that you are being mistreated. Abusive relationships usually have a web of logic and reasons to prevent someone from leaving "what if he kills himself" "what if his mother hurts him and he needs my help" "what if he dies and it's my fault because I wasn't there to help him" they manufacture guilt and reliance and it's not unheard of for an older person to be manipulated by a younger person specifically because they aren't aware the power dynamic is capable of shifting like that (usually the older person turns out to be a few years behind developmentally and/or in terms of emotional maturity, but especially in this case you are not guaranteed wisdom/protection from abuse by the age of 24 and by that age your brain hasn't even fully developed yet.) TLDR: Abuse is only so notable because the primary barrier in leaving the relationship is not usually physical but mental. Investigate the topic and you will be surprised at the sheer amount of people stuck in toxic/abusive online relationships. I truly and humbly want you to take this to heart
i appreciate this video as someone who's only really heard of these people in passing for providing just the right amount of context & detail to follow along. still, the way you talk about abuse is extremely callous and frankly disturbing. 'who knows, they're both mentally unwell' is an embarrassingly stupid takeaway - of course she was mentally unwell, she was being abused! the thing that often causes mental illness! HUH?!?! a good rule of thumb is to evaluate abuse not based on who's acting weirder, but on tangible harm done to each other. luca has cost this girl her privacy, her health, her job (multiple times!), potentially her relationship, and her right to human decency, apparently, if you're comfortable making funny stock photo edits of an experience that almost cost her her life. alternatively, she has cost luca nothing, and instead gave him her utmost support however she could - up to and including doing his damn job. if only for your own safety, please reevaluate how you think of these things, because they DO happen to normal people and if we act like they don't, then we will be next.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 *🌐 The Vtuber community, especially Nijisanji, has been embroiled in controversies, with the latest involving Luca Kaneshiro.* 00:25 *🚨 Luca's involvement with a married woman led to a series of toxic events, including leaked internal protocols and personal misconduct.* 02:02 *🌟 Luca Kaneshiro was part of the Luxium wave, a group of male Vtubers who changed the perception of male Vtubers in the industry.* 03:22 *💬 Before becoming Luca, he was known as Java, involved in VR chat communities, notorious for pretending to be a female.* 04:33 *🎮 Java's interactions in VR chat led him to meet Raziel, a VR chat streamer, sparking a complex relationship that continued into the Vtuber world.* 05:29 *🔍 Raziel exposed Luca's problematic behavior, including harassment and unethical conduct, supported by leaked Nijisanji contracts.* 09:13 *🤖 Luca's manipulative behavior included inappropriate actions during VR chats, disregarding clear boundaries, and exploiting personal trauma.* 12:40 *🔒 Despite experiencing manipulation and harassment, Raziel continued to support Luca, managing his streaming career and community.* 15:25 *⚠️ During Nijisanji auditions, Luca engaged in harassment on Twitter, creating fake accounts, yet still got accepted into Nijisanji's English male Vtuber wave.* 18:09 *💼 Raziel provided significant support to Luca, even creating content for his streams, highlighting Nijisanji's lack of support for their talents.* 19:07 *💍 The "Ring Fit Adventure incident" showcased Luca's discomfort with his chat's behavior, which often turned sexual during his streams.* 20:41 *🛡️ Luca Kaneshiro immediately sides with a donor over his moderator, causing panic and misunderstandings.* 21:09 *💔 Despite Luca's tweet supporting his moderators, Raziel faced doxxing, harassment, and threats.* 22:04 *🔄 Luca's content shifted towards "boyfriend experience" due to fixation on viewer count and frustration with Raziel's lack of engagement.* 23:22 *📈 Luca's jealousy of other VTubers' attention led to ego searching, fan interaction, and a focus on pandering content.* 24:45 *💰 Luca's payment methods to Raziel were irregular and included random payments without a proper contract or invoicing.* 25:14 *📜 Luca's chat rules were bizarre, reflecting a lack of clear communication and professionalism.* 26:09 *✍️ Raziel's extensive contributions to Luca's career, including writing lore and even forging his signature, raise questions about authenticity and professionalism.* 27:17 *🏢 Internal leaks reveal questionable communication practices within Nijisanji, including leakages of private messages and lack of PR training.* 28:42 *🚫 Luca's mismanagement and lack of leadership role contradict Nijisanji's expectations and contribute to internal conflicts.* 31:02 *⚠️ Allegations of harassment and bullying within Nijisanji highlight potential systemic issues and management failures.* 32:40 *🔚 Despite ongoing toxicity, Raziel struggles to cut ties with Luca, leading to further emotional distress and isolation.* 35:52 *🤔 Both Raziel and Luca exhibit concerning behavior, emphasizing the need for professional help and distancing from each other.*
I don't like the lack of empathy that you have for Raziel. I feel like you are down playing what she went through. It's extremely hard to leave an abusive friendship. Especially when you are being manipulated and feel like you are being relied on. Whether it is you being relied on for your mental health, or them opening up to you about situations whether they are real and fake. You have a bond and connection with the person. Which in this case they've been friends for years which makes it even harder. There is a reason that it takes such a long time to leave. Raziel seems highly empathetic which makes it even harder than it already is. I don't mean to offend or try to seem like I'm being mean. However I feel very uncomfortable that you are laughing at abuse. Abuse is never something which you should laugh at.
Ngl, I’m only halfway through the video and I have to ask if this guy knows how abusive relationships work? He just keeps talking about Raz as if she could’ve easily left Luca. The victim blaming isn’t cool, abuse works because the abuser is able to isolate their victim and make them think they only have their abuser to rely on. They make use of how much of a nice person their victim is to guilt trip them ect. to make the, stay with them for as long as possible.
dude he was 18 she was 24. He might have even been younger when they met. She had a boyfriend, so why was she in a dating RP server in the first place? It just doesn’t make sense. Why did she stay? He was a friend and she had no real reason to be hanging out with him like that and helping him like that. It’s not like they knew each other in irl or she couldn’t make other friends or anything.
@@sweetpea11jesus, reread the original comment again. she felt extremely bad for her friend, she is very empathetic. and at a point when shit got bad she has already been too attached and she didn’t wanna leave him in a difficult situation. Age doesn’t really matter here. You can be manipulated at any age and you can be a manipulator at any age.
Hi! Something I would like to mention is that abuse victims often find it very, very difficult to cut off relations with the perpetrators abusing them, being subjected to extensive manipulation, and especially in this case, emotional torment. It's not easy for them to just, /get out of it/, they are usually not in the greatest mental headspace, and if they lack external support, this issue is especially prevalent.There is so much to understand when it comes to these cases, sure, she might not have had anyone physically tying her to Luca, but it is very apparent from this document that he's manipulated her into forming a highly codependent relationship with him, much of her livelihood was probably also tied to him, seeing as how she had worked extensively for him for a period of time. So I would like people to please exercise a bit more sensitivity when speaking about their experiences :D
I had to pause every few minutes, I love the video.. it's just Lucas's actions 😭 It's making me guffaw and cry at the same time. Raziel's like a Momager 😭
What a time to drop this bombshell. No matter the occasion, every kind of truth is warranted to be put out. In the words of hex, the truth certainly did set something free that day in VRChat 🗿
Note, truma dumping doesnt immidiately means someone is trying to manipulate. Sometimes they might just take time to feel comfertable to sudenly open up about stuff. Or maybe they just communicate like this. Dont immidiately assume that this means something bad. I know a bunch of ny autistic folks usually opporate like this and we aint tryna manipulate shit we just tryna talk. 8:52 was very uncalled for in that regard. Uncool. :
love your videos but constantly talking about how "she shouldve left" got a bit uncomfortable ngl. i was in a similar situation once, its really hard to leave when people pin it so that everything seems to be your fault. great coverage of this situation outside of that though, Aster catching a stray near the end was pretty funny
It's one thing to not know about intricate dynamics of abusive relationships but by god the amount of times you're perpetrating someone that is clearly not mentally well - ESPECIALLY after getting confirmation that Raziel's mental health has been declining - as simply 'unwilling' to leave and victimblaming while making fun of it is insane. I wish you nothing but success though if you continue being insensitive you'll sooner than later end up on a video like this
You make good points however two things - first, lots of women call their friends “love” and “baby”, it’s not that uncommon even in platonic relationships. Also manipulative people manipulate you into staying, that’s sort of the point of the manipulation. Being shocked that she stayed is missing the point.
No offense, but it’s actually very hard to leave a toxic relationship, even when the signs are all right there for people not involved in it, when you’re actually part of the relationship and you’ve been conditioned to think a certain way, your brain will latch itself to any and all excuses to keep being in it. Yeah, they both have issues, yeah, they need professional help, but let’s not be TOO neutral on the situation. Luca is in the wrong, period, if the alleged toxic friendship is true (I can buy it being just a friendship. I call my friends “baby” and “love” ironically, and toxic friendships are actually harder to spot than toxic relationships from my experience, because there’s the expectation that best friends also treat each other like crap). I do not hope for anyone to ever have this kind of relationship in their life. It sucks. It also sucks when you finally manage to live and the response is “well you should have left earlier” THAT’S WHAT MANIPULATION DOES TO YOU!
I'm actually so disgusted that this whole time I thought his just a pretty chill guy. I'm not a hardcore vtuber fan but I do watch some clips of other vtubers and just thinking about Luca being in my youtube "liked videos" disgusts me immensely.
When I clicked this, I didn't expect this to be about people I knew. Met Java back on VRchat. I left VRC after a while so lost contact with him. Those two definitely had chemistry back in Gator days. Didn't realise the stuff about his family was manipulating...
The one thing I didn't like about this whole thing is how Mujin kept saying the fact that Raziel could have left at any time. She quite literally can't. She's not you. You didn't see and feel what she had. You simply cannot use reason against emotional actions because that's trying to solve irrationality with logic. It cannot work. You can give a reason as to why, but you can't reason why they should've. Now, I'm not saying she shouldn't have left, but it irks me when people say that kind of thing. You don't know what people go through until you experience it yourself. You don't simply read a person's biography and say "He/She should've done this." There's a context for everything, and people are dismissing it in favor of seeing what they only see. Because whether they're bad or not, no one sees what it's like to be that other person. Sorry Mujin, I like you but this is one of those times where I say "nah this ain't it bruh" Source: look at every other abusive relationships: SkyDoesMinecraft, MikoNeko, VenusianRapper, etc.
Exactly, it doesn’t matter what you would have done or how you would have felt, the whole point is that everyone reacts differently, feels guilt/pressure differently and that’s why abusive people pick and choose their victims. If you were someone who could just up and leave, kept your friends, didn’t cave to ridiculous demands and guilt tripping they wouldn’t choose you. Saying “so and so could have done this” just doesn’t take into account the thousands of aspects affecting the situation that you can’t possibly know or comprehend. No one will ever truly know what it was like how much they break it down, that’s why you can empathise instead of throwing around should’ve could’ve would’ve scenarios, it’s pointless and feels insulting.
She quite literally could. Weather she WOULD is different. Keep in mind she is an adult and he was 18 when they met in a "dating" RP chat. That alone would make most adults go "nope" the whole thing is sus from the start for BOTH of them. Seems more like two messed up people finding each other and being messed up together.
I know she shouldve left, but thats difficult for people in abisive relationships. So while I agree they should do whats best for them and leave the situation, we should also be more understanding when they have a hard time coming to that conclusion for themselves, then actively leaving thier abuser
Edit: Yeah. Yeah that sounds like her friendship with Luca was so toxic that she felt like she had to be there for him because of the manipulation he was doing to her. Been here to my dismay. I think the main reason Raziel might not have distanced herself from Luca after he just did something without her consent might have been due to shock and maybe even justification on her end. It's very common that people do this when in toxic situations and given that Luca trauma dumped on her, she was likely afraid of what could happen if she called him out on his behavior. In her mind at the time it might have felt like she'd be kicking him while he's already down. That's my take on it as I once had a friendship turned toxic where I tried to justify the antagonizing my former friends were doing to me.
It can be hard to cut contact in a toxic friendship, especially when one person shows signs of consistent emotional distress. I had a falling out with a friend many years ago who I shared many interests with and had a lot of fun talking to. Hoever after a year or so of friendship they began to had repeatedly lash out, express feelings of worthlessness and bemoan that I would "leave" them like everyone else had. They would even repeatedly bring up, admittedly mild, fetishes they had in conversation. When I finally did cut contact after they lashed out in a disrespectful way at a post I made on a public platform, I explicitly told them not to contact me and if/when I wanted to try and patch things up I would approach them. It lasted maybe a month before they started following me on other social media platforms, replying to my posts and generally acting like things were fine. After they started sending me game codes as gifts, it still took encouragement from friends to convince me to just outright block them. Many of us, IME mostly women, are socialized to be "understanding" and "empathetic" and to give people chances over and over and over at our own expense. It's not always easy to just tell someone to fuck off.
I really enjoy mujins content but this video is actually killing me.. his victim blaming is actually crazy here 😭 Other comments explain it better than me but she was being manipulated and isolated by Luca, laughing and saying she could've left is so disrespectful and not needed.. I know mujin laughs alot in his videos but there's a time where you just don't laugh at this kind of shit? Thought that was kind of obvious. Just had to comment this because the victim blaming in this video made me pissed
I like your videos and your humor, Mujin, i don't mean to offend you, i just feel somewhat uncomfortable with you laughing at the manipulated victim, joking about it, i know you aren't a bad person, and that this is your type of humor, im just scared that it will influence others to laugh at manipulation cases and dont understand it, sorry if you feel offended, it wasn't my intention
It's their style of presentation, it's a cliche. The laugh isn't a laugh, it's part of the script's tone (haha you know, haha get this, etc.). I agree that it's a bad fit and a bad look, should have modified the script for this one.
She finally escaped his grasp when she almost unsubscribed herself, but then she decided to message him when she finally had a chance to move on. She even left her long term boyfriend for him. She was clear on her boundaries from the start but still decided to give him an inch. Manipulated or not, she had all the chances given to her to cut him off but decided not to. You cannot not just laugh and shake your head with that, like bro, the red flags are all over the place, but I guess if you are a woman, you are not accountable for all your bad choices in life.
Honestly, toxic relationships are rrally complicated, and even if an outsider see it as just "go away, it's obviously bad" for a person who for a lot of reasons, which can start from their family, the people they interact, and more reasons, do it incredibly hard to see. As a person who scaped from an abusive family, even if they do to you unspokable things, you still love them, you still don't want to leave them, and that's insane! But that's what manipulation does, that's what emotional dependence does. I think that you weren't right when talking about this in specific, you were wrong. This is written with no intentions of hate, just to mention something that other people in this comment seccion does because it is a seeious topic that's it as simple as it seems.
Edit: A few people have expressed(with good intentions) that I was too harsh on Raziel. I explain my reasoning here: th-cam.com/users/postUgkxrhgvdN-PKp_i6mDz5lofcDQLIeJ3g3D5
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Damn bro, kinda harsh 😂
Maybe its just fate
oh wow that's just a coincidence that might be nuclear
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LMAO
You might as well call it both a birthday AND graduation gift.
Selen: gets fired immediately
Luca: broke the rules but is not fired
Vox: there is no favoritsm in Nijisanji
There is no War on Ba Sing Se.
Of course there isn't. They treat every boy the same.
@@kabob0077 I was gonna say that😂
You could probably list off the ones that went indie or re debut as someone else
I love my family - nijisanji
"There is no Easter bunny
There is no Tooth Fairy
And there is no favoritism in nijisanji"
-Tighten/Titan, Megamind 2010
Perfect 👌
THAT MEANS THERE IS AN EASTER BUNNY
there is no war in ba sing se
WAIT HIS NAME IS TIGHTEN, NOT TITAN?!?!
25:50 at this point she is " the real luca". He is just the voice actor
"Before Luxiem, Male Vtubers were purely seen as a joke"
Meanwhile two of the Luxiem bois now became a whole circus all by themselves.
Who is the second?
@@potmki6601 vox, lmao
I mean, 80% of their male vtubers are clowns, and I'm willing to bet that the remaining 20% are just better at hiding their skeletons. It's not surprising to anyone with at least a half functional brain.
@@luvview4887what did he do?
@@urlocalroachgabbiwait, you don't know?! I hope you're not part of his "fans"😮
"There is no favoritsm in Nijisanji" has the same energy as "There is no war in Ba Sing Se"
It’s also giving “Fire Lord Ozai loves his son”
Please- 💀💀💀
same vibes as "Nothing happened in June 4th 1989"
Lots of misinformation here
the company did offer Selen to stay if she reflected and apologised
She didn't and threatened them legally is why she got kicked out
So where's the favouritism?
Makes me think of "There are no faces"
Vox "There's no favoritism in Nijisanji" Akuma. clearly shows how they favor luxiem cause the boys brings in money but right now the opposite is happening☠
i just love to see it
nijisanji is so messed up that looking at this seems absolutely normal
Poor Shu needs to get out ASAP. 😭
I'm afraid about how's the real personality of the rest of luxiem 😭
the company did offer Selen to stay if she reflected and apologised
She didn't and threatened them legally is why she got kicked out
So where's the favouritism?
what's crazy is how he made us think differently of the relationship he has with his family. Back when I watched him, I'd see those clips of his mom being sweet to Luca (giving him food during stream), him showing how protective he was of his mom (the stories he'd tell), and the wholesome relationship he was with particularly his younger brother.
so now idk what to think, were these wholesome moments all a facade? or was the whole "abusing" thing just a lie so that raziel would be there to give him comfort and eventually get emotionally attached to him (for purely manipulation)?
youre so right. when I watched him he seemed to care so much about his mom and would tell stories that did seem very real but after this video and learning about how much stuff he lied about to get her attention, I start to wonder if they are fake too.
Great point. Though there may be some truth in them because children learn from their surroundings.
There's one of Luca's The Walking dead stream where his mom was yelling i
In the background and calling luca to do soemthing.
Yeah i remember his mom being super sweet woman, i think he used his mum as an excuse to manipulate her
@@Buffporktimestamp?
Selen: Makes a lot of projects out her own pocket and gets fired for MV.
Luca: Disclosure of information, Hiring third party, multiple breaches of contract. GETS REWARDED.
Vox Akuma: ThErE's No FaVoRiTiSm In NiJiSaNjI 🤡
Bros before 304s.
There's no favoritism in Ba Sing Se
What leftism does to a mf
@@9ipalvin858 1
@@guts2787 So, you're saying Selen is a 304? What the fk is even your logic??? Have you just escaped a mental ward???
LUCA DID WHAT
sipping tea while sum of yall spill it in my replies 👁️👁️
Well he is a criminal in lore and now in irl lore to
my honest reaction as well
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY
Yeah i already dislike him for the minecraft stuff but like that? It is worse
My exact words when i saw the title 😭
why do all of my comfort streamers just like do this to me YOU HAD ONE JOB 😭🙌
That's hyunjin in your profile right? No worries Stray kids are enough to comfort us 😭❤️
NAH CAUSE HE LITERALLY GIT ME INTO VTUBING
Even with the drama he’s dealing rn, just stick with indies like Kenji man 😭
@@sagemiracle2674 REAL 😭
@@theia-3- I LOVE KENJI
who wouldve guessed that giving a bunch of awkward weirdos fame power and anonimity would end in a trainwreck
Honestly
ACTUALLY BRO 😭
You would be suprised how many there are in TH-cam.
At least they have part-time highschool kids managing the whole thing. What could go wrong?
So the majority of big TH-camrs then, and they aren't even anonymous.
The reason why she didn't stop being his friend is that well, emotional manipulators make you feel bad for your own emotions. He intentionally used his mom to make her feel bad enough to not bring it up ever again
I can tell that as a woman I'm also weak to emotional attack but... She looks too dumb... Like I'm sorry to say that and we obviously don't know how their entire interaction went but she just seemed so pitifully dumb... Again, I'm sorry...
Yeah I can confirm as someone who was once in a toxic friendship that's something that does happen.
@@semideadnat Yep. Also Lilia pfp? Oo
@@lovelysakurapetalsyt GODDAMINT I'VE BEEN SPOTTED AGAIN FOR MY PFP
@@semideadnat Lilia is one of my favorite characters, I'll always spot him
this lady single-handedly create his image, saved his whole personality, and of course, make him famous
To add to the employee message about Luca saving his job, that employee (Yoshitaka Fumoto) is now the lead/executive of Nijisanji's overseas operations. Which means that this guy is covering Luca's ass and probably why he hasn't been terminated while others have been fired for much less
Good lord 😮
And yet somehow there is "no Favoritism in Nijisanji"
It's almost comical how villainous Niji is jesus
real ayyylmao tho
@@KeirnothVT Niji is Jesus? I don’t think so!
Luca: Constantly breaks the rules, breaches the contract and is a genuine piece of shit
Nijisanji: i sleep
Selen: Decides to add livers, including ones that resigned from the company, in her music video
Nijisanji: REAL SHIT
Edit: ...why the hell did i get so many likes on this comment good lord
💀💀
Misogyny
@@kristen2693 eh its more person problems vs attacking the company you are apart of.
Based and redpilled.
@@samuelclayhills3298not really when ninisanji favoritism doesnt count male or female.like they treat other male talent like shit then treat the blue dragon good.
Am a huge fan of luca, I didn't know that he would do all of this...
Okay like THANK GOD Mysta graduated before any of this😭
no now i feel bad for shu because he's the only good one in luxiem 😭
@@azuralights shu is a saint amongst them all💜😞
For real- THANK GOD HE SAVED HIMSELF AT LEAST T_T
same w Kyo, like, he dodged a missile
@@azuralightshow about ike?
When you are a low to no moral company it does mostly attracts the same people, they employ.
Yeah, they're those only type of people who can survive
100% Agreed
cant say im surprised
Thats the truth!!
Incompetent people who'd be immature or obedient enough on a leash? Not to be rude to the very... VERY few good livers there, but they can be a bit, pon when it comes to choosing words.
Releasing this video on Luca's birthday (April 10) is savage💀
Niji official Twitter just birthday greeted him too. Looks like Niji not gonna do anything for their favorites.
Damn
I’m watching this on my birthday, your comment scared tf out of me.
@@starlightrai16th April? Nice. Happy Birthday although this comment is totally out of topic 🤐
@@Invisibli_ty I was scared that I shared a bday with the dude.
it is VITAL to understand that the mental processes behind being attached to an abuser is NOT rational. for many people, particularly women, emotional connections tends to override acknowledging a loved ones “obvious” abusive behavior. it is so easy to to look at Raziel’s lack of immediate action from an outside perspective and criticize her for doing so. while i understand that, her situation is something that is very difficult to understand if you haven’t experienced something similar as well.
she likely felt an emotional obligation to him, especially because shes “the only one he’s comfortable telling” and its very clear he took advantage of her people pleasing mentalities. raziel is not at fault here and it breaks my heart to see there are people who blame this woman who has already endured horrible statements from the FANS OF HER ABUSER. that is a UNIQUELY PAINFUL situation and raziel should be receiving nothing but support for her bravery for exposing the hidden danger that man was.
I do feel bad for Raziel and man, it was stated that she did consult a psychologist. Like consulting one means you'd talk things out to realize the behavior that currently impairs your decision-making and this could pave solutions to change yourself. Idk what happened there but that means it didn't work for her since she went back for Luca. If only she realized sooner and if only there were people who actually approached and talked to her about it earlier.
I'm not saying it's her fault but she did made a mistake along the way. The sad thing is that she didn't realize that and she kept staying. But at least right now, she's aware of it and I hope she gets better along the way. And I'm pretty sure a lot of people are with her right now. She's very brave.
And this is the mentality that breeds women to be victims. Dont listen to this bullshit no one controls your emotions and the worst thing you could ever do to yourself is not take responsibility for the things you do to yourself. Raz also took the action ALL vicrims of abuse should and seeked help but even after that help she still stayed. No one else can convince you to stay but you and i know that 100% because i was in an actual mentality abusive relationship and i know at the end of the day how hard it is to leave an abuser, but it was still my fucking choice to stay. Because if you dont take responsibility and learn from your actions youre going to be abused again because you let it happen to yourself. You can be a victim and still take responsibility for your abuse at the same time and both perspectives are true at the same exact time. Its not your fault it happened but just because its not your fault doesnt mean you should let it happen.
Yeah, it was so weird how he was constantly stopping to make fun of her for not leaving like he didn’t know how manipulative abusers work.
There’s so much victim blaming in this video, it’s baffling.
True but like it does indeed get to a point tho
you really siding with a groomer is crazyy
She groomed Luca when he was underaged (while she was already married too)
after Luca kicked her out she always tried her best to badmouth Luca, and you really believed everything she put out there??/
All i am seeing is a desperate attempt to tarnished a ex's reputation
Yall would be shocked to find out how many toxic people like this exists in real life and how absolutely unhinged they, their victims, and their audiences are.
I've been a volunteer mod for a big TH-camr that is a pretty shitty person but everyone to this day thinks is an amazing guy, so nothing surprises me anymore. It all comes out eventually. It's just so much easier to hide in online then irl.
Who is it if you don't mind me asking? Unless obviously you don't feel comfortable sharing.
@@GummyDinosaursify Yo expose the name
Real. It’s important to recognize how hard it is to leave in this situation lol
@@GummyDinosaursify Bro expose them wtf are you waiting for. SOMEONE steps out to make it all come out, if you're the only one who knows then you could be the only hope to getting a horrible person off of their platform and influence.
The word Nijisani and Vtuber just don’t mix well together anymore, even if somehow this situation is resolved
the relationship between these two is chernobyl levels nuclear toxic it just kept getting more and more unhinged
You forgot an important bit:
The exec that personally thanked Luca for saving his career got promoted to an even higher position within Anycolor.
Luca will NEVER get terminated because he has quite literally a big fish protecting him. He's done far more and worse than Zaion and Selen and they're the ones that got the axe for... Not toeing the line?
Yeah, that protection is only going to last until the company starts getting dragged into courts.
Luca will never get terminated until the company runs out of funds lmao.
This reminds me of commoner girl × asshole CEO short dramas. What a trainwreck.
Average Korean CEO romance manhwa
@@noharaheilige435 we should be glad that it's a korean CEO manhwa rather than the chinese ones
@@Bread_bread01based
In this video, Mujin spent the most time pointing and laughing at raz instead of criticizing luca. I know he made a longer post to explain, but it's still clear that Mujin doesn't understand abuse and low self-worth. Im glad he doesn't have to deal with it, but some do. Why put an abuser and her on the same level by saying there aren't any clear good/bad guys here? She made mistakes, and it's fine to point them out, but to me, this looks like a woman who had issues with self-worth, conflict resolution, and boundary-setting, which all speak to intense people pleasing behavior. She mentioned a history of abuse in the past, so it's possible she learned to be a self-destructive people-pleaser in her youth. She had enough anxiety and depression that she even considered suicide. She needs therapy, yes, but not ridicule. I see some of my past in her actions and though she's very misguided, making a person who is used, abused, and doesn't have the self-worth to see themselves out of it doesn't deserve being the butt of a joke. She was so desperate to be needed, to have a friend, that she devalued herself enough to put up with abuse. How does that put her on the same level with Luca?
That’s true
One thing that was not mentioned in this video, was the fact said Luca 2024 Birthday merch, showed a signature. The issue? The signature looked VERY different then the signatures in the 2022 and 2023 Birthday merch. And Raziel mentioned she would do the signatures for him before she left.
The more time passes, the more it turns out the Raziel document is true.
just a grammar note, it's *than, not *then.
But you're right I never noticed that.
OUT OF EVERYONE I EXPECTED LUCA WAS THE LAST PERSON I COULD THINK ABOUT DOING THIS!!??? 😶
all blade mains are good people, respect.
That's me with Vox.
Like, I avoided his adult Asmr streams like fire but outside of that he seemed so entertaining and....elegant? ( and I loved his art)
And then he does that black screen video and it's like my rose tinted glasses cracked on my face
I unsubbed from all of them at this point, no one is safe bet in that company.
( I main Bladie too, good choice)
@@karolinabuba575what was the context of the black screen vid
@@amari7782 "We didn't bully Selen" "There is no favouritism in Nijisanji" "Graduation is always an option" "We can't believe Selen betrayed us"
I still hold out hope for Shu, Rosemi, Scarle, Ren, maybe Aia, maybe Reimu, maybe Ver, and maybe Vivi and Kunai. The ones I've lost hope for are, well, basically everyone else except Ike, Fulgur, Maria, Vanta and Zali.
Raziel was literally playing Needy Streamer Overload, IRL. Lmao.
She didn't leave him because the point of manipulation is to make you feel stuck in this relationship although you're not. Your entire life revolves around the manipulator. Poor girl, I'm sad and tired for her really.
But I mean she had an out knowing what he did wrong but stayed it really isn't hard to cut people off
i may be labled a nijisister but ...shes a 30 something year old woman
Bruh raziel groomed him. Of course she won't left.
@@Neoflares I think we don't know her well enough to say whether they're susceptible to that type of manipulation or not. There are a lot of reasons someone who is an adult can be susceptible to that.
Either they never encountered it before, so they never had to learn the tools against it, or maybe they have had these types of relationships all their lives and it's normal so they just don't have the experience getting away. Or they have super unhealthy ways to cope with this type of relationship and coast through on those, never trying any better.
until you dig deep enough to see the things she did in the past
As an abuse victim its really hard to leave a toxic relationship when the abuser is not mentally stable
Im not an abuse victim and although it was stupid that Raziel still didnt leave it doesn't take me one or two braincells to think "Hey! How is she being blamed for this? Shes the one being manipulated" or atleast thats what my last 2 braincells thought I mean the rest dont wanna be included in this shit
exactly this must’ve been so hard for both you and Raziel.
As a victim also, I spent 4 years being abused by someone and he knew exactly how to keep me in the relationship. Usually, he would guilt me or tell me how he was struggling to deal with the loss of his brother who died from cancer, or when his mom was abusing him so he put his frustration onto me. He always worded these things for me to sympathize and immediately comfort him, despite how he always did it to stray away from all the abuse he did to me a moment before. The only reason I ever realized all of it was wrong was when I had someone else outside of the relationship tell me that what I told them of my experience with my bf was not normal and not ok. In fact, I didn't know it was abuse at all. That's how bad the manipulation was - that's why I never left. I didn't know it wasn't normal. And perhaps, it was the same for Raziel.
First of all, we are seeing the incidents all at once. In real time, this took place over a long period of time. I’m sure that in between these, he was nice or toned down to where she developed an feeling of “well sometimes he just acts out”. A classic “you don’t know him like I do” mentality.
I would imagine she also felt sorry for him due to how he claimed his mother was abusive and she felt like she’d be “abandoning” him.
People really don’t get how hard it can be to get away from an abusive relationship.
@@zipfling11 I read both of your comments, and it reads as though you're both in full agreement? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Invisibli: "I'm not an abuse victim, and although it was stupid Raziel still didn't leave, it doesn't take a genius to think 'She was manipulated; it's unfair she's being blamed for this.'"
You: "'I don't know anything, but you're wrong and I'm right' It may seem easy to leave an abusive relationship to some, but you don't know how it feels."
Hope that may clear things up?
OH HELL NAH 😭 Bro i hope shes okay for now, i was about get into luca and his fan base but OML, THIS JUST BROKE MY JAW AND 360 SPIN MY HEAD AND MY BRAIN YELLLING OUT "LUCA WTF"
At this point, Luca wasn't freeloading. THIS IS JUST BORDERLINE PLAGIARISM. Like seriously, Raziel deserves so much better.
nah she was her slave
Tbf raziel was his groomer, their dynamic only changed since luca joined niji meaning he is now in more power in the relationship (fame, money, larger friend circles) and the relationship changed into luca manipulating and using her while it used to be the opposite back then. Don't really know the raziel deserve better part as she is also disgusting(you can see her past records) but i think we can agree that its a toxic relationship that needs to stop.
@@ainocj173 they were 18 and 24 when they met
@@ДарьяДарина-ж5к I dont know about you but to me that is still grooming. 18 is still in last year of highschool or just graduated, they're still not that different or more mature than still being in school yet. 20 and 26 is okay but 18 and 24 is still....eh...red flag. Not to mention raziel and java was interacting in an inappropriate way while raziel is married.
Nah More Like Vampire Luca Sucks the Victim Blood Extremely Fresh and Make Raziel his Favourite Slave and Almost Used to the point She Dies on all fronts and accounts , until major big event that backstabs her then she wakes up too late all accumulation stacking damage have been done and beyond restoring toxic relationship was the last straw , i mean he used her like aka joker and harley quinn after she showed signs of breaking down and he doubledown on that , lastly full nuclear from Raziel which yes she had all times she could ended the toxic friend BS Relationship was long gone at that time , he knows but she does not , slaving her way for luca for a complete meltdown and full on nuclear
I know there were a lot of laughs because the situation is ridiculous, but man, all I could hear from this whole situation is just a mess of an abusive relationship. It's definitely not the usual love relationship, but an abusive relationship is an abusive relationship.
Like, holy fuck.
Sounds like she had a parasocial relationship with him. And clearly He knows how to play it on his hand.
They were both pretty awful people, stop martyrising her, she released ALL the messages so all of it was aired out fairly.
I don't know why people have to pick a side. You don't. You can be appalled by two things equally.
@@signumxmagnumno it did not really look like that it felt as if he was emotionally manipulating by saying his parents are abusive making her feel bad for him and that she was the only good person he knew and he was pretty good at manipulating her guilt trapping and gaslighting
@@Kalavani-vz2cz Even if he guilt tripping her, she wouldn't be around him if she doesn't have any feeling herself. There's no way they were "friend" only with that kind of relationship for years, even after trying to distance and doing therapy, the first thing she do is going to him.
@@signumxmagnum you literally cannot just tell someone to get out of a toxic relationship there is a lot of things that go on behind the screens that we don't know how bad the manipulation was we do not have any idea what was going on remember this document is probably a bit simplified
It sounds a little tone deaf when you're laughing and saying "she should have just left"
It was the “He gave her cancer” part that really got me… like, bro, time and place
As someone who's been with a very toxic ex and who abused me till I was a mental trainwreck.
He manipulated me into staying, he would constantly switch between being toxic and giving me all his love which lead to me being very dependent of him.
I stayed... for 2 years... he made me feel bad for everything he's done. And to this day blames me for, for example, not leaving. (he even blamed me for cheating).
Yes, narcissistic/ manupilative/ toxic people, they won't let you leave.
I can't imagine how scared she must have been.
I felt like my ex would ruin my life if I left.
Small update for anyone who cares: We broke up about 1,5 month ago and I had to actually block him to detach myself. I've been doing better than ever since.
I met some other guys who care about me and I'm going to meet with more friends:) (I felt restricted to do so in my relationship)
I'm glad for you. Hopefully your new boyfriend will be kind & a lovely person that can heal you from your ex.
@@moneythailand1149
Me too! I actually got another boyfriend in the meanwhile but he ended up being a creep so we broke up too.
I've been doing great though, been going out and meeting new people.
How are you?
im so glad your romantic life has taken a change for the better :'D you did yourself a big favor and i am so proud of you for that. I wish for a happy and lasting relationship with your new significant other!!!
Meanwhile at COVER:
*Yagoo sipping tea while wondering what to do with all his merch*
That's why hololive will always be the best of all
holopro also got holostars if there are ppl that still crave male vtubers
Yagoo's smart man, he kicked out Rushia with a good reason before she started her downward spiral.
@@cloudwalker9572 also she attempted unalive and she was getting massive amount of hate and death threats.
There is no way she is evil as Vox or Luca, no way she’s comparable to them.
@@cloudwalker9572 he also was not afraid to nuke an entire gen, cause he knows they'll be a problem in the future. but still made sure there was no hard feelings.
cause well... it was been a long time now, and I barely heard any drama that came from the Chinese branch of hololive.
Nah, dude. Good information but horrible take. She's an abuse victim. Abuse victims are at high risk for repeat abuse. The vulnerability that leads to this kind of captive abuse usually starts young.
They are at a high risk for repeated abuse because they never take responsibility for their part in the abuse so they never learn how to keep themselfs from being abused.
I was mentality abused by family and lovers, and in none of these situations did i pass off 100% of the blame to the abuser, because i CHOSE to stay. When the mass public is aware of a subject such as mental abuse and there are options for help EVERYWHERE, even just a google search to look up common patterns of mental abuse you cant plead ignorance to the responsibility of your own well being. If someone told me they are gonna punch me and the face, and i dont leave them alone or move away, me getting punched is my fault. The first time someones abused its not their fault how could they have seen it, but if its over and over and you know what it looks like its your fault and building this victimhood blanket is only going to make more abused people because everyones being taught that its only the abuser fault not the victims. You can be a victim and still have something be your fault it happens all the time. Live with it just like everyone else.
Yeah he kept laughing like she was ridiculous but when you get manipulated like this it is very serious and i deeply disrupts your ability to value yourself without that person and your self-dependability.
Toxic relationships are notable because they are so damaging and the victim cannot leave. If they judge the situation properly and leaving was painless and easy they would, but that's not how these relationships work.
29:50 "I don't call my friends love" *Sweats Englishly*
Fr😂
"no good guy or bad guy" well that's fucking wrong. Luca is clearly in the wrong even if raziel kept coming back
the victim blaming here was nuts, the laughing about it too was super... just weird and mean
literally the comment i was looking for thank you I was loosing my mind nO bAD guY tf???
@@dizzy2445 as someone who's had multiple people close to me sustain years of abuse and refuse help at every turn while standing by their abuser, there's a point where empathy runs out and the weakness becomes wickedness
And Raziel isn't the bad guy for being a creep that's preying on teenagers?
@@dizzy2445
Deserved, honestly
I can't believe it Vox and Luca were my absolute favorites, I'm so upset
LUCA???? I WOULDVE NEVER GUESSED SOMETHING WOULD BE INVOLVED WITH HIM...?😨😨😨
DUDE SAME???
luca is loco
I made a mistake with making myself too attached to Luca.. My heart incredibly hurts and I am so upset of what he's done to raziel. I can't believe I got manipulated by his so-called "nice" personality.. I hope I get to hear his side of the story, rn I really believe raziel rn
@@moxie6293 What are you even talking about? Well of course celebrity fans are delusional. Literally all popular figures, especially streamers, are acting, none of their personality is actually real. Did you actually expect anything else?
@@bloddrinkeraka and TH-cam comments are cruel
The statement “It’s always the ‘wholesome’ ones who have the most skeletons in their closet” is becoming truer every day with this Niji EN situation.
fr, i hope that ike and shu dont have any controversies, I love them too much. and noctyx, love them too i hope they arent doing any shady shit
@@Malakai__WeLoveYouMafumafu god im only subscribed to Fulgur and Uki at this point as they both seem like comfort streamers with mature characters, i would feel like im stabbed in the heart if it turned out to be opposite
Except Rosemi
I give people obsessed with "wholesomeness" a wide fucking berth honestly.
@@0reas0n but uki is racist 😭😭 i used to love that man but the racism towards the westerners is really rude even if i'm not white.
The victim blaming is crazy. On average it takes about 7 times for someone to attempt to leave an abusive relationship before they really can. The lack of empathy for Raziel is actually criminal
Mujin is a man after all, they are notorious for having close to none empathy towards women.
@@trappedfan5206 that’s not an excuse. Men should have empathy for women, as they should have empathy for everyone. There are plenty men in this world who do, there’s no excuse for other men who don’t
Had to unsubscribe because of this vid. This whole video was so uncomfortable and full of victim blaming…
It has really bothered me when he said there is no good or bad in such situation because then he is just making her look bad for having a good heart for someone who doesn't deserve it, he is right about it that it's wrong and should have left long time ago, it's wrong to be naive all the time but it doesn't mean she is bad as luca
Both are equally disgusting af
Leaving a toxic relationship, especially if they have isolated you, is not as easy as "Oh just leave". That is king of very insensitive thing to say, even if leaving is the correct action. You said it yourself, they are both not mentally well.
literally my thoughts. it was kind of hard to watch with him saying “but she still didn’t leave, i don’t know why!” 🥲
The amount of gaslighting Luca did to her made her second guess about leaving him.
I think it is worth noting that she is the only narrator here. I do not trust the whole of the framing going on here. I think they are both messed up. She was an adult in a relationship when she started this with an 18yr old? Doesn't stand up to the smell test.
@@titheproven954 Yeah, for sure, a single source of information is rarely reliable and she doesn't seem all that innocent. But 20 y.o. is barely adult, a lot of people still tend to make mistakes at that age, hec older peole ar not imune to mistakes and manipulation either, that part is normal. Not to mention it isn't clear what her background was, at least from this video or I skipped it...
@@kitycheeha She was 6 years older at those ages it is a rather large gap and the mentality of a 18year old boy vs a 24 year old women is not nothing. I just think it is something a lot of people are just glossing over
Mujin may not be pregnant but he always delivers.
I sure hope he isn’t pregnant , I don’t think Luca would like it…
@@mitsu-um1cwIs Mujin White as well? If he is that'll be 2 people that hate him
*cough* Uki
@@mitsu-um1cw Lmao!!
@@mitsu-um1cwhey Luca doesn’t like pregnant woman. He didn’t say anything about pregnant men!
@@dawnthenightlightfury1195 TRUE THO HAHA
I think the reason why Raziel stayed friends with Luca is because sometimes people are too nice and often easily manipulated. Raziel probably felt like she was ruining a long lasting friendship by cutting herself off from Luca since they had been friends since 2018 and had a "decent" relationship with him since then. I bet at first she was only helping Luca with his duties at Nijisanji but she kept doing them so much that Luca could not function without her help and therefore made her feel obligated to help him with everything. I mean, I thought I would deal with a toxic friendship like a normal person would but I couldn't break myself off of her because we had been friends since 4th grade. She would make me join social media that I never was supposed to have (I was 11), show me porn (still 11), force me to watch a video of a girl throwing up and eating it, (again, 11), and show me a picture of dead little kid after I said I never wanted to see it (you guessed it, 11). I hated how I felt when she would do this but I couldn't bring myself to end our friendship because we had been through a lot together and we had been friends for over 2 years. I understand how Raziel felt because I felt the same thing. Proud of her for finally breaking off 🥳
Edit: But I also forgot to mention, Raziel isn't totally in the right. She's made pretty bad decisions during her friendship with Luca. Why as an adult was she okay with a 17-18 year old being so close to her and so obsessed with her. Morally, it should have set off many alarms. Acting as if it was normal and okay made the situation worse. It enables him to think it's okay to act like this with Raziel and normalizes his behavior with herself, that bleeding onto his behavior in relationships with other people (Now he thinks its cool to harass people). Doesn't change that Luca is an absolute jerk, but Raziel isn't that innocent as people say.
Please correct me if I’m wrong but the touching himself thing happened not that long into their friendship, right? no way would I know that someone touched themselves to me without my consent and I act like nothing happened. I have a very close friend and if I knew he did that I literally would never even be able to think of him without being disgusted. I hate to use this, but she is in fact older and she should’ve made her boundaries known and maybe even block him since it was an online friendship (ik sometimes it’s hard to know if you’re being manipulated/abused BUT I think this would make anyone want to cut that person off). She saw him develop that codependent toxic friendship, but instead of saying something to her then partner (if she did, that partner would’ve probably told her to stop talking to him), she leaned into the obsessed 18 year old and they both turned toxic. I obviously have no way of knowing but I’m wondering if she, too, turned obsessed/possessive towards him or was it just him. I’m not a fan of how people think one is horrible while the other is innocent. Both seem pretty bad and toxic to one another, and they should’ve ended their friendship long ago. I also don’t like how she went back to him and didn’t like when he ignored her when she said she didn’t want to be friends anymore, that part confused me. Oh and one thing that actually pissed off was how she publicized his abuse and who/what that abuse(r) was, it wasn’t her trauma to say at all. Him being abused doesn’t accuse what he did, so her bringing that up was very unnecessary imo.
Sorry for ranting, but seeing how you have an experience with a “friendship” like that, I hope you can give me your perspective and correct me. Sorry if I came across as rude/uneducated
I think she reacted with a “tend and befriend” response when he crossed a line and she didn’t know how to react.
@@maryam-nusa my ex friend and i had been friends since 4th grade and we had been acquainted in 3rd grade and we became closer due to our mutual friends. i didnt want to break off because we had been friends for a while and made memories with eachother. we were also still friends with the same people so if i did break off it wouldve been awkward. she made me do stuff that i wasnt allowed to and i did it because i liked her and wanted to still be her friend. and yeah both of them are far from innocent but there is going to be the one person who started it. for me i believed that i wasnt in the wrong but looking back i did whatever she wanted and basically let her know that what she was doing to me was okay which it was def not. shes friends with horrible people now.
@@maryam-nusa (TW: opinion)this was so well said. people are so blinded by her opinion and own issues that they're not seeing that she's a grown ass woman who can make her own decisions. the fact that she still stayed after ALL OF THIS is by then her own doing. I'm not justifying what Luca did either, but clearly they are incompatible as friends and never will be anything more than that. as for the original commenter (yugoify) you were literally a kid when that all happened, raziel is a grown woman and you were a minor who could easily be influenced. that comparison doesn't make any sense at all. You were not developed enough to realize the issue. take it from me, I got rid of 2 long year friendships of mine and I'm still a minor myself, near adult years but still young enough to know my own self worth. and I understand people have different tolerances to mental abuse but trust me when I say despite everything I've been through as a person it was hard for me too but I still managed. She had so many chances, AS AN ADDULLTTT may I add, talking to Luca when he was still young himself may I add again, to find an opening to escape. especially when he offered. long story short they were never meant to be friends. period. both of them are in the wrong here, even if raziel was a victim she shouldn't have stooped this low because clearly it was her who was also emotionally attached.
@@tartyjuice With every offense. Majority of abuse victims keep coming back before they finally leave. Adults can be manipulated just like minors.
i feel so bad for all the lucubs who placed their loyalty into luca 😭 this must be like- a fucking roller coaster for them. 😭
It is I’m like borderline in denial, I’m not exaggerating when I say I did not expect this AT ALL 😭
Luca was my favorite VTuber for a while...knowing that he did all these things is just like a "oh goodness gracious" moment.
@@lost_to_time. yeah, shit like this makes me fear for putting trust in Uki and Vox (my oshis of Niji En)- especially because everyone in the niji en community keeps bringing Vox into this 🤪
@@matsu5010 honestly, i always got like weirdish vibes from luca, but i think it's just cause i didn't like the way he said pog constantly 💀 call me an edgy 14 year old (i was then) but it annoyed me and threw me off. As my boss would say "childish vs. childlike? which one are you being?" and it always came across really childish, which does have its market, but making dirty jokes with vox akuma is not that market (not shading vox, he's my oshi)
@@grape._.panta. I guess to me it just felt charming and a bit silly, I never got creepy vibes but now I wish I had. I haven’t been super into vtubers in the past months but I still liked them, but all of this is shocking, Ike is genuinely my last hope and even I don’t know if he’s in the clear 😭
I’m assuming the reason she didn’t leave is because she pity him for the abuse and probably made excuses for his behavior it could also be a white knight complex as well
I honestly can’t blame her
Edit: In THAT department I’m not taking any sides not sure if I will at any point
Almost tempted to dm luca photos of pregnant transgender men, his two fears combined
from what im understanding is that, she was being emotionally manipulated hence why she didn't leave earlier.
i might be wrong though.
no, I'm not taking her side. I'm taking no one's side lmaoo.
that said, having finished watching the video, I believe she should have talked to someone about it and thus, pulled herself away from him early on.
@@eneor I really side with her in the first messages but oh my god...i-i don't know what to say anymore 😅
Its codependency. Both have issues imo
@@eneorthat's the thing tho. These types of people will try to isolate you from your social circles so you have no one but them to rely on
That's why many victims of emotional manipulators don't feel confident that they could leave. They think "they're the only person I have left", not realizing they're the reason they have no one else
@@spectre9340 Yep. Very common for victims to literally push away everyone else without realizing it till there is no one else. Maladaptive schemas tend to play a role.
There is a reason why victims seldom leave their abusers. They were/are being emotionally manipulated. The same has happened here as well, it was established early on in their relationship with the abusive mother.
Furthermore, abusers search for their potential victims, usually more empathetic people, who are prone to put the well being of others above their own, due to their own circumstances (trauma, family education, etc).
Putting blame on her for "why are you not leaving/stopping contact with him" is the worst part of this video. The fault is entirely on the abuser for being a gigantic, manipulative, stinking pile of shit.
Sums up Niji and its livers
But at the same time
Leave him
Victim blaming isnt cool.
But normalizing that isnt well either.
People should be made more aware to not fall into such manipulative traps.
Sympathizing with her is ok. Glorifying what she did is not which is what im seeing some places.
What she did should be copied. People like Luca SHOULD be removed from contact lists immediately. Post the touching dong stuff
@@aritrasaha441 that's easier said than done
source: look at other cases of abusive relationships
This would not be a cause of Stockholm syndrome
@@the8bitclicker_193 Those cases aren't solved by moving your mouse and clicking block. You're acting like she's chained to Luca's bed in Australia or some shit lol
You need to go easier on Raziel. Constantly going “she should’ve ended their friendship” “why would she do this” “I don’t know why, was he holding a gun to her head” really undermines the effects of manipulation. It’s literally text book. You feel like that person relies on you, you care about them, and failure to do what they want equals to abandoning them and might end up with them hurt- or at least that’s how the manipulation makes you think. You’re literally blaming HER for HIS manipulation
I think you meant Raziel(?), as Java is Luca's past life
@@ElRatten. Yes thank you!
He gave her an exit, I understand manipulation is hard to get through but she is an adult with her own mind to think for herself. Anyone could see the situation and the fact no one she knew around her helped her out goes to show her environment was horrible. That in its self isn't her fault but what mujin saying if you even listened was that he felt bad for her, but there were many openings to know her self worth and leave the situation. It's so hard, and I understand that, but i've seen and been in a similar situation myself to know that there is always a way out. It may take some time, but eventually it'll be over with. With her coming out with this document to begin with means she hasn't yet moved on from the situation and the fact she brought public eye on it instead of just leaving it and never talking to Luca again, the situation escalated. If I were raziel, I would want to leave it all behind and move on with my life, if she really wanted to tell someone how she felt she could have told someone close to her or a therapist. there were so many better ways to handle this situation and I don't believe this was the right choice, the internet is a horrible place and the internet is how this ALL started, going back to the same place again was foolish.
@@tartyjuice of course there’s always a way out, and she did break off contact eventually from my understanding, but nobody should be making fun of a victim before they managed to get out of their abusive situation. Besides, not all manipulation is malevolent. I don’t believe Luca himself was malevolent in their relationship, he seems to have been desperate and had some deeply unhealthy tendencies which ended up hurting both him and the people around them. It’s easier to leave when the situation is black and white like we see it from an observer’s viewpoint, but I’m sure that there was way more to their friendship than the bad parts.
Besides, people are different. I for one am way more vulnerable to manipulation and codependency, because I’m a highly empathetic person, and I sometimes feel like setting boundaries for myself is a form of betrayal. A lot of things can factor in, like self esteem issues or social isolation etc etc.
All in all. Of course she should’ve left. But I get why she didn’t. You can’t laugh at someone stuck in a bad situation even if they could’ve avoided it the same way you can’t laugh at someone who got hit by a car when they could’ve been more careful. Sure, they could’ve done things differently, but ultimately it’s them who suffered the most.
Besides, the only person who should be blamed for this is Luca. Yeah, she could’ve left, but he’s the one who hurt her, and blaming her kind of excuses him.
(Also. Her coming out with the document is the best thing she could’ve done, in my opinion. It’s closure, and also serves as a warning to not give your trusts to someone undeserving of it)
@stareyesfujiiEveryone is the asshole at this point. Luca is at fault, Nijinisanji is at fault, and so is Raziel to an extent.
Btw she wasn’t married but in a long term committed relationship before Luca
NEW MUJIN VIDEO WAKE UP BABY
Yes honey
This video posted when I just woke up LOL
What a weird relationship you have with Mujin /s (get it?)
wish he made a video about the Doki and Vivi situation
manipulation, the goal is to make you dependable of them, she was isolated so she only had him. it can be hard for victims to leave. You shouldn't judge Raziel for "staying", it's easier when you know the pattern to leave, i recommend you research on the subject to understand more the psychology of the victim.
Dont feel bad for her, feel bad for her ex boyfriend, hopefully he found a better girl.
@georgebootoo4026 for real. Long term relationship, but your girl rp's with some gay-baiting guy and leaves you for him. Yeah, he dodged a bullet with this for sure.
@@georgebootoo4026 I'm pretty sure he was her husband, even carzier
@@banji7612 he wasn’t. Just a long-term boyfriend
WHICH is still pretty bad
thank you for summing up the document, but jeez man, chill with the victim blaming, yes this is a weird situation, yes in hindsight you may say she had many chances, but we really don't know how it really was do we
Want to add something, yes, she is a groomer (Luca was a minor when she approached him). That doesn't mean she was abbused by him, no one deserves to be a victim in any way.
those leaks alone is enough to violate NDA.. if luca still wasn't fired after this I'm gonna be so disappointed
the laughing while stating the obvious "just leave him" just hurt... when you're in abuse you cant just leave considering multiple times that you've been manipulated, i think you actually need help to get out of that situation... its hard leaving out of your own will. i feel sorry for her but it is true that she is at fault as well. she should've start detaching from him and completely cut it off the moment they talked about to lessen their contact from each other. hoping raziel gets recovery soon and luca owns up to all this twisted stuff he caused... though im not expecting anymore.
What a weak ass lol 😂. Just fucking block him lol 😂.
No literally and it’s making me mad.. It’s like people don’t understand basic sociology. It’s manipulation for a reason- she even stated it evolved into a codependent type of manipulation?? I’m glad she was able to remove herself from the situation *at all.* It takes a lot of mental strength when you’re depressed to overcome shit like this because you sympathize with the other person heavily because they’re also in a personally fucked situation. And that’s literally only the tip of the iceberg. There’s so much more complexity to manipulative relationships than what other people skew their focus to and it’s actually mind boggling that it’s not common knowledge apparently.
It was all virtual, it's not like she was scared for her life, in the real world. She has serious mental health issue, in her situation is was insanely easy to just stop.
Sometimes it's hard because your whole entourage will hear about it and something virtual can affect your whole life
BUT this wasn't one of those time, it's actually that easy: just drop him. Yet she chose to keep doing this. They're both weirdos
@@legacymse7095 How ignorant do you have to be to read all of the above commnents and still say this? Ae you aware of what manipulation is? grooming, codepencies, financial abuse etc. Oh yeah, that little girl on discord talking to a thirty man could have just stopped being friends with him! Oh yeah, this emotionally manipulated woman could have easily left this situation because its online, its not like Luca used trauma-bonding to make her feel responsible for him and exploited her empathy! Seriously, literally ANYTHING can affect your entire life, especially other humans, and you dont even have to know what they look like. I hope you'll eventually reconsider your values and morals if you genuinely think like this.
@@legacymse7095 youre a weirdo for victim blaming. learn some empathy
bruh i wish u had more tactic n empathy when speaking abt serious situations like abuse.
for real, i love his videos but it feels like that
Ngl the way he delivered this makes me uncomfortable.
Bro, i didn't know someone who got the best innocent mask as a Vtuber since then finally going in Character as a criminal (literally💀)
bro the girl was abused she felt trapped no way of escaping thats why she was friends with him she was abused
35:55 I was in a toxic friendship, always with unaliving thought, etc. and it’s really not easy to just go. She was, sad to say, completely gone and obsessed. I was in a toxic friendship for almost 10 years, leaving is not just a quick thing to do and can cause a great danger to one mental health
The man took his criminal persona a little too seriously it seems...
Only way nijisanji can win this, is to have their own drama channel to harvest their own drama.
I feel bad for Shu and Ike. Ike clearly wasn't comfortable doing the black 15 minute stream and sounded like he'd just cried (even said the stream was a bad idea if I recall) and Shu's just there trying to be his old self and translate for the corps (even if bad) from English to Japanese and vice versa. I just hope they know where they stand and manage to keep and open mind despite being in the favoured wave, though I think these two can, but still I hope they stay safe.
This is literally 37 minutes of comedy and stupidity, hell the whole document feels like a fever dream 💀💀💀💀
Here we can once again see how hard it is to leave a toxic relationship when you're constantly being guilt tripped and trauma dumped.
Blaming her in the way you do feels kinda off. But yeah, toxic relationships need to be ended faster, but very often they are kept going because manipulation works.
Sometimes you can tell when someone hasn't been part of one or seen one when they say stuff like this, because the thing is, the red flags are obvious in hindsight but we're literally seeing the aftermath and the full picture, of course we see it NOW. Because Raziel saw it and is showing us her own, painful realization that she was used and spat out by Luca when convenient for him.
It varies from person to person but if I was in her place no amount of guilt trip would stop me from leaving that kind of friendship ngl. She was smart enough to put boundaries at first but not smart enough to leave when she had the chance. If she needed someone for comfort she probably has other friends right? Idk much about her or she can make new friends (good friends who actually care) so it's questionable why she just didn't leave.
@@SapphireYuna It was literally mentioned in the video that he had managed to isolate her from her friends. And yeah, everyone thinks that they would manage to see the red flags and leave, I'm 99% sure so did Raziel before all this happened.
@@SapphireYunathe signs came to her time and time again. He breached her trust from years on end. I know plenty of empathetic people who may fall for the trap but they wont choose the stay after a few problem..especially like the touching dong incident
@@pluggedfinn-bj3hn I kinda skip through some part so I probably missed it. But ye like you said it is easier said than done. It's hard to say what'd actually happen if I was in her place. I'll say tho I have experience getting people like them to their knees (just have some experience going around and dealing with bad people, don't ask why I used to do that) but ye I doubt he'd give up easily. Well what I'm saying is unless someone physically threatened me I'm definitely fighting back. At the very least it's nice that people can't blackmail me with something because I don't have anything important that needs to be kept secret. I probably shouldn't be proud of this but I've forced a lot of people to their limits lol sorry it's kinda funny remembering their reactions. Bad people ofc some of them hurt my friend back then. Sorry it's little out of topic. It kinda reminded me of my friend's situation from the past and I just decided to let it out.
I would have enjoyed this documentary if you weren’t laughing your ass off. What Raziel experienced, I believe can still be regarded as sexual assault. It was horrifying and confusing because everything is happening so fast. For you to continuously laughing at her situation is not okay, it’s disrespectful and very unsympathetic towards her as a victim.
This is disappointing.
Yes! I’ve been saying the same thing in my replies on this video. Why tf is he laughing as sexual harassment?? Tf?
Right!! It's very..odd.
Well she was 6 years older than him and didn't say anything about him beating himself even when she has a boyfriend. Luca is definitely in the wrong but she's not completely innocent either. Mind u this is from her perspective so she can be leaving out details.
@Juffrou_ffoorie So she didn't reinforce her boundaries largely because she was being manipulated and that somehow means she's also to blame?
esp the last part where he was like you had multiple chances to leave and didnt, so its consensual?/ LIKE WHAT. NO? BC SHE DIDNT LEAVE DOESNT MAKE IT CONSENSUAL THATS CRAZY
yknow funny enough I expected a drama like this to eventually happen given I used to play vrchat back in 2016 and vrchat dramas happened so commonly especially with TH-camrs given that vr really blurs the lines and filters peoole usually put on when making content. When vtubing became popular in my head i was thinking itd only be a matter before they swap over to vrchat and then the chaos would ensue. Boy was i right lol this is like deja vu but its funnier that it happened to nijisanji considering their current track record of shit happening 😭
The revolutionary Luxiem Wave consisting of
1. Shu Yamino
2. Ike Eveland (who does everything aslong as he can stay close to his japanese Oshis)
3. Dox (there is no favoritism in Nijisanji EN) Akuma
4. The guy that took his lore too literaly
and
5. The one who got away / the smartest of them all
Man, at this point, I dread that we might get some Shu scandal soon.
@tonythong5352 Well, if that happens NijiEN might be over altogether. The Selen drama hit them hard and since it's mainly the english talents who cause Nijisanji problems it would be wisest to shut that part down entirely.
I was crying when Mysta left nijisanji but now I’m so glad he did
dox akuma goodnighttt 😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏
Pls not Shu ;-;
ok here’s the thing right, you talking about the fact she would’ve left multiple times was actually getting uncomfortable at one point. abuse victims find it really hard to leave the abuser themself as they get too emotionally attached to the abuser so raziel was not at fault at all. raziel seems highly empathic which can be the reason she never left luca because she pitied him
She is absolutely at fault. This wasn't a physical relationship. I do agree if someone is actively living with an abuser then sure it's harder to leave, but this was over DISCORD! That makes it 10000x easier to cut contact. She is a grown woman and needs to take responsibility.
@@JewJitSuSixty9 see you don’t get how bad attachment issues can get. and she obv had SEVERE attachment issues. it’s easy to get attached to people online too. no matter how shitty the person is. stop blaming the victim.
@@JewJitSuSixty9 I ernestly ask you to be humble, leave any assumptions at the door and investigate this topic. Abusive relationships are notable because the victim usually can leave physically but that is rarely ever the primary thing keeping them in the relationship.
You have to make the psychological connection that you are being mistreated. Abusive relationships usually have a web of logic and reasons to prevent someone from leaving "what if he kills himself" "what if his mother hurts him and he needs my help" "what if he dies and it's my fault because I wasn't there to help him" they manufacture guilt and reliance and it's not unheard of for an older person to be manipulated by a younger person specifically because they aren't aware the power dynamic is capable of shifting like that
(usually the older person turns out to be a few years behind developmentally and/or in terms of emotional maturity, but especially in this case you are not guaranteed wisdom/protection from abuse by the age of 24 and by that age your brain hasn't even fully developed yet.)
TLDR: Abuse is only so notable because the primary barrier in leaving the relationship is not usually physical but mental. Investigate the topic and you will be surprised at the sheer amount of people stuck in toxic/abusive online relationships. I truly and humbly want you to take this to heart
WHAT IN SEVEN STAGE OF HELL IS GOING ON
the more you think about it, nijisanji office is real life The Boys parody
poor raziel. he had her wrapped around his finger, exploiting her kind nature.
ETA: codependency is one hell of a drug
I’d suggest diving into some more info before assuming. There are twitter accounts of raziel getting exposed
i appreciate this video as someone who's only really heard of these people in passing for providing just the right amount of context & detail to follow along. still, the way you talk about abuse is extremely callous and frankly disturbing. 'who knows, they're both mentally unwell' is an embarrassingly stupid takeaway - of course she was mentally unwell, she was being abused! the thing that often causes mental illness! HUH?!?! a good rule of thumb is to evaluate abuse not based on who's acting weirder, but on tangible harm done to each other. luca has cost this girl her privacy, her health, her job (multiple times!), potentially her relationship, and her right to human decency, apparently, if you're comfortable making funny stock photo edits of an experience that almost cost her her life. alternatively, she has cost luca nothing, and instead gave him her utmost support however she could - up to and including doing his damn job. if only for your own safety, please reevaluate how you think of these things, because they DO happen to normal people and if we act like they don't, then we will be next.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 *🌐 The Vtuber community, especially Nijisanji, has been embroiled in controversies, with the latest involving Luca Kaneshiro.*
00:25 *🚨 Luca's involvement with a married woman led to a series of toxic events, including leaked internal protocols and personal misconduct.*
02:02 *🌟 Luca Kaneshiro was part of the Luxium wave, a group of male Vtubers who changed the perception of male Vtubers in the industry.*
03:22 *💬 Before becoming Luca, he was known as Java, involved in VR chat communities, notorious for pretending to be a female.*
04:33 *🎮 Java's interactions in VR chat led him to meet Raziel, a VR chat streamer, sparking a complex relationship that continued into the Vtuber world.*
05:29 *🔍 Raziel exposed Luca's problematic behavior, including harassment and unethical conduct, supported by leaked Nijisanji contracts.*
09:13 *🤖 Luca's manipulative behavior included inappropriate actions during VR chats, disregarding clear boundaries, and exploiting personal trauma.*
12:40 *🔒 Despite experiencing manipulation and harassment, Raziel continued to support Luca, managing his streaming career and community.*
15:25 *⚠️ During Nijisanji auditions, Luca engaged in harassment on Twitter, creating fake accounts, yet still got accepted into Nijisanji's English male Vtuber wave.*
18:09 *💼 Raziel provided significant support to Luca, even creating content for his streams, highlighting Nijisanji's lack of support for their talents.*
19:07 *💍 The "Ring Fit Adventure incident" showcased Luca's discomfort with his chat's behavior, which often turned sexual during his streams.*
20:41 *🛡️ Luca Kaneshiro immediately sides with a donor over his moderator, causing panic and misunderstandings.*
21:09 *💔 Despite Luca's tweet supporting his moderators, Raziel faced doxxing, harassment, and threats.*
22:04 *🔄 Luca's content shifted towards "boyfriend experience" due to fixation on viewer count and frustration with Raziel's lack of engagement.*
23:22 *📈 Luca's jealousy of other VTubers' attention led to ego searching, fan interaction, and a focus on pandering content.*
24:45 *💰 Luca's payment methods to Raziel were irregular and included random payments without a proper contract or invoicing.*
25:14 *📜 Luca's chat rules were bizarre, reflecting a lack of clear communication and professionalism.*
26:09 *✍️ Raziel's extensive contributions to Luca's career, including writing lore and even forging his signature, raise questions about authenticity and professionalism.*
27:17 *🏢 Internal leaks reveal questionable communication practices within Nijisanji, including leakages of private messages and lack of PR training.*
28:42 *🚫 Luca's mismanagement and lack of leadership role contradict Nijisanji's expectations and contribute to internal conflicts.*
31:02 *⚠️ Allegations of harassment and bullying within Nijisanji highlight potential systemic issues and management failures.*
32:40 *🔚 Despite ongoing toxicity, Raziel struggles to cut ties with Luca, leading to further emotional distress and isolation.*
35:52 *🤔 Both Raziel and Luca exhibit concerning behavior, emphasizing the need for professional help and distancing from each other.*
Thank you bro✊🏻
tysm, you're a godsend for making this
@@mythicdreamx for all the people who have ADHD lmao like me
I don't like the lack of empathy that you have for Raziel. I feel like you are down playing what she went through. It's extremely hard to leave an abusive friendship. Especially when you are being manipulated and feel like you are being relied on. Whether it is you being relied on for your mental health, or them opening up to you about situations whether they are real and fake. You have a bond and connection with the person. Which in this case they've been friends for years which makes it even harder. There is a reason that it takes such a long time to leave. Raziel seems highly empathetic which makes it even harder than it already is. I don't mean to offend or try to seem like I'm being mean. However I feel very uncomfortable that you are laughing at abuse. Abuse is never something which you should laugh at.
Bro- Mujin was just recapping the situation. Don’t send hate to H I M !
Ngl, I’m only halfway through the video and I have to ask if this guy knows how abusive relationships work? He just keeps talking about Raz as if she could’ve easily left Luca. The victim blaming isn’t cool, abuse works because the abuser is able to isolate their victim and make them think they only have their abuser to rely on. They make use of how much of a nice person their victim is to guilt trip them ect. to make the, stay with them for as long as possible.
dude he was 18 she was 24. He might have even been younger when they met. She had a boyfriend, so why was she in a dating RP server in the first place? It just doesn’t make sense. Why did she stay? He was a friend and she had no real reason to be hanging out with him like that and helping him like that. It’s not like they knew each other in irl or she couldn’t make other friends or anything.
@@sweetpea11jesus, reread the original comment again. she felt extremely bad for her friend, she is very empathetic. and at a point when shit got bad she has already been too attached and she didn’t wanna leave him in a difficult situation. Age doesn’t really matter here. You can be manipulated at any age and you can be a manipulator at any age.
Him laughing throughout the entire video really rubs me the wrong way
@Kiasae i really don't feel bad for either party considering that lady is still fucking weird for grooming and he's just as weird too
Favoritism in Nijisanji benefiting Luca? POG!!!
Hi! Something I would like to mention is that abuse victims often find it very, very difficult to cut off relations with the perpetrators abusing them, being subjected to extensive manipulation, and especially in this case, emotional torment. It's not easy for them to just, /get out of it/, they are usually not in the greatest mental headspace, and if they lack external support, this issue is especially prevalent.There is so much to understand when it comes to these cases, sure, she might not have had anyone physically tying her to Luca, but it is very apparent from this document that he's manipulated her into forming a highly codependent relationship with him, much of her livelihood was probably also tied to him, seeing as how she had worked extensively for him for a period of time. So I would like people to please exercise a bit more sensitivity when speaking about their experiences :D
I had to pause every few minutes, I love the video.. it's just Lucas's actions 😭 It's making me guffaw and cry at the same time. Raziel's like a Momager 😭
What a time to drop this bombshell. No matter the occasion, every kind of truth is warranted to be put out. In the words of hex, the truth certainly did set something free that day in VRChat 🗿
Note, truma dumping doesnt immidiately means someone is trying to manipulate. Sometimes they might just take time to feel comfertable to sudenly open up about stuff. Or maybe they just communicate like this. Dont immidiately assume that this means something bad. I know a bunch of ny autistic folks usually opporate like this and we aint tryna manipulate shit we just tryna talk. 8:52 was very uncalled for in that regard. Uncool. :
love your videos but constantly talking about how "she shouldve left" got a bit uncomfortable ngl. i was in a similar situation once, its really hard to leave when people pin it so that everything seems to be your fault. great coverage of this situation outside of that though, Aster catching a stray near the end was pretty funny
It's one thing to not know about intricate dynamics of abusive relationships but by god the amount of times you're perpetrating someone that is clearly not mentally well - ESPECIALLY after getting confirmation that Raziel's mental health has been declining - as simply 'unwilling' to leave and victimblaming while making fun of it is insane.
I wish you nothing but success though if you continue being insensitive you'll sooner than later end up on a video like this
This.
You make good points however two things - first, lots of women call their friends “love” and “baby”, it’s not that uncommon even in platonic relationships. Also manipulative people manipulate you into staying, that’s sort of the point of the manipulation. Being shocked that she stayed is missing the point.
Bro why was the married woman hanging out with an 18yr old in the first place?? Ik he aint clean but noone in this situation is right like wtf.
She was never married, only had a bf.
@@Kaito-Ipn bro she stated that the reason for her divorce was Luca
Good research but the tone is insufferable imo i feel like ive had to power through it.
No offense, but it’s actually very hard to leave a toxic relationship, even when the signs are all right there for people not involved in it, when you’re actually part of the relationship and you’ve been conditioned to think a certain way, your brain will latch itself to any and all excuses to keep being in it. Yeah, they both have issues, yeah, they need professional help, but let’s not be TOO neutral on the situation. Luca is in the wrong, period, if the alleged toxic friendship is true (I can buy it being just a friendship. I call my friends “baby” and “love” ironically, and toxic friendships are actually harder to spot than toxic relationships from my experience, because there’s the expectation that best friends also treat each other like crap).
I do not hope for anyone to ever have this kind of relationship in their life. It sucks. It also sucks when you finally manage to live and the response is “well you should have left earlier” THAT’S WHAT MANIPULATION DOES TO YOU!
I'm actually so disgusted that this whole time I thought his just a pretty chill guy. I'm not a hardcore vtuber fan but I do watch some clips of other vtubers and just thinking about Luca being in my youtube "liked videos" disgusts me immensely.
When I clicked this, I didn't expect this to be about people I knew. Met Java back on VRchat. I left VRC after a while so lost contact with him. Those two definitely had chemistry back in Gator days.
Didn't realise the stuff about his family was manipulating...
The one thing I didn't like about this whole thing is how Mujin kept saying the fact that Raziel could have left at any time. She quite literally can't.
She's not you. You didn't see and feel what she had. You simply cannot use reason against emotional actions because that's trying to solve irrationality with logic. It cannot work.
You can give a reason as to why, but you can't reason why they should've.
Now, I'm not saying she shouldn't have left, but it irks me when people say that kind of thing. You don't know what people go through until you experience it yourself. You don't simply read a person's biography and say "He/She should've done this." There's a context for everything, and people are dismissing it in favor of seeing what they only see.
Because whether they're bad or not, no one sees what it's like to be that other person.
Sorry Mujin, I like you but this is one of those times where I say "nah this ain't it bruh"
Source: look at every other abusive relationships: SkyDoesMinecraft, MikoNeko, VenusianRapper, etc.
Exactly, it doesn’t matter what you would have done or how you would have felt, the whole point is that everyone reacts differently, feels guilt/pressure differently and that’s why abusive people pick and choose their victims. If you were someone who could just up and leave, kept your friends, didn’t cave to ridiculous demands and guilt tripping they wouldn’t choose you. Saying “so and so could have done this” just doesn’t take into account the thousands of aspects affecting the situation that you can’t possibly know or comprehend. No one will ever truly know what it was like how much they break it down, that’s why you can empathise instead of throwing around should’ve could’ve would’ve scenarios, it’s pointless and feels insulting.
this
It felt mean spirited
She quite literally could.
Weather she WOULD is different. Keep in mind she is an adult and he was 18 when they met in a "dating" RP chat. That alone would make most adults go "nope" the whole thing is sus from the start for BOTH of them.
Seems more like two messed up people finding each other and being messed up together.
Agreed
I know she shouldve left, but thats difficult for people in abisive relationships. So while I agree they should do whats best for them and leave the situation, we should also be more understanding when they have a hard time coming to that conclusion for themselves, then actively leaving thier abuser
This company is beyond help with how deep the hole this cespool of a company dug themselves
Edit: Yeah. Yeah that sounds like her friendship with Luca was so toxic that she felt like she had to be there for him because of the manipulation he was doing to her. Been here to my dismay.
I think the main reason Raziel might not have distanced herself from Luca after he just did something without her consent might have been due to shock and maybe even justification on her end. It's very common that people do this when in toxic situations and given that Luca trauma dumped on her, she was likely afraid of what could happen if she called him out on his behavior. In her mind at the time it might have felt like she'd be kicking him while he's already down. That's my take on it as I once had a friendship turned toxic where I tried to justify the antagonizing my former friends were doing to me.
It can be hard to cut contact in a toxic friendship, especially when one person shows signs of consistent emotional distress. I had a falling out with a friend many years ago who I shared many interests with and had a lot of fun talking to. Hoever after a year or so of friendship they began to had repeatedly lash out, express feelings of worthlessness and bemoan that I would "leave" them like everyone else had. They would even repeatedly bring up, admittedly mild, fetishes they had in conversation. When I finally did cut contact after they lashed out in a disrespectful way at a post I made on a public platform, I explicitly told them not to contact me and if/when I wanted to try and patch things up I would approach them. It lasted maybe a month before they started following me on other social media platforms, replying to my posts and generally acting like things were fine. After they started sending me game codes as gifts, it still took encouragement from friends to convince me to just outright block them. Many of us, IME mostly women, are socialized to be "understanding" and "empathetic" and to give people chances over and over and over at our own expense. It's not always easy to just tell someone to fuck off.
I really enjoy mujins content but this video is actually killing me.. his victim blaming is actually crazy here 😭
Other comments explain it better than me but she was being manipulated and isolated by Luca, laughing and saying she could've left is so disrespectful and not needed.. I know mujin laughs alot in his videos but there's a time where you just don't laugh at this kind of shit? Thought that was kind of obvious.
Just had to comment this because the victim blaming in this video made me pissed
RIGHT??? I felt so uncomfortable 🫠
she was practically cheating on her boyfriend that’s why other comments are going at her.
@@sweetpea11 she's still a victim my dude 🔥
Raziel just accepting Luca beating his meat, even though she knows it's wrong, sounds like something you would see on some hanime lmao
I like your videos and your humor, Mujin, i don't mean to offend you, i just feel somewhat uncomfortable with you laughing at the manipulated victim, joking about it, i know you aren't a bad person, and that this is your type of humor, im just scared that it will influence others to laugh at manipulation cases and dont understand it, sorry if you feel offended, it wasn't my intention
It's their style of presentation, it's a cliche. The laugh isn't a laugh, it's part of the script's tone (haha you know, haha get this, etc.). I agree that it's a bad fit and a bad look, should have modified the script for this one.
i agree. its uncomfortable if he keeps laughing at the sign of abuse
she isn't completely innocent either, looking at the comments below her tweets. so i guess that explains his attitude torwards her
theyre both terrible but acting so ignorant about how badly people can be manipulated by someone is so 😭 ???
She finally escaped his grasp when she almost unsubscribed herself, but then she decided to message him when she finally had a chance to move on. She even left her long term boyfriend for him. She was clear on her boundaries from the start but still decided to give him an inch. Manipulated or not, she had all the chances given to her to cut him off but decided not to. You cannot not just laugh and shake your head with that, like bro, the red flags are all over the place, but I guess if you are a woman, you are not accountable for all your bad choices in life.
Whole thing went from funny to disgusting to funny again then immediately disgusting again, i was left speechless after the video 💀
Same fr
Honestly, toxic relationships are rrally complicated, and even if an outsider see it as just "go away, it's obviously bad" for a person who for a lot of reasons, which can start from their family, the people they interact, and more reasons, do it incredibly hard to see. As a person who scaped from an abusive family, even if they do to you unspokable things, you still love them, you still don't want to leave them, and that's insane! But that's what manipulation does, that's what emotional dependence does. I think that you weren't right when talking about this in specific, you were wrong. This is written with no intentions of hate, just to mention something that other people in this comment seccion does because it is a seeious topic that's it as simple as it seems.