You're mistaken thor for a conan the barbarian clone. Thor would be like orion. Both created by Jack Kirby designed to be more higher level immortals existing above supermen. *The original supes leaped buildings...he didn't fly until ten years later.
@@JakeRider-wc6ke Rune king thor oneshoted the Ones above in shadow who as shown in Loki agent of Asgard reside in the OUTSIDE which is above all outerversal layers of eternity (superflow, exospace, neutral zone , farshore, under space ,over space, etc)
Been waiting for this one, it's finally here. SUPERGOAT and Thor GOATINSON. These two characters are very similar in their fighting styles to be honest. They are raw machines who trust in their brute strength instead of using a lot of strategy but they don't need to, they simply beat most people in fiction with raw power and speed.
@@cactusblack5993not only that, their personalities matter too. Superman is a Boy Scout. He only goes to the extremes of absolutely necessary. He’s also regular human age so he takes things with greater consequences as he self consciously feels like a mortal man. Thor is a warrior already thousands of years old. His threshold for the extreme as well as his view of it will be a lot different, where the extreme for Supes might not even be the extreme to him. He also does not take every minute thing as seriously and is a little more about the grand scheme of things in his meathead kinda way due to his position as an ancient God, and current all father. Big evidence to this is when we vents his timelessness to Cap due to time being perceived differently to him vs mortals.
Superman: the Justice leagues banned me from the watch tower, i'm public enemy number one, and Darkseid sent me a thumbs up tweet?? WHAT THE HELLS GOING ON?! loki: *wheeze laughs and changes back to his usual form after disguising himself as superman.*
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 I’m not as knowledgeable about DC as I am Marvel, but I wouldn’t count Mysterio out too quickly. He has successfully tricked Wolverine into killing all of the X-Men before
I'm sorry I hate that story with a passion. Cul came out of nowhere as a character and made the already established jormungandrs existence in the verse needlessly confusing. I also automatically dislike any hulk form that's completely bald. It just makes him look like an ogre
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 Hulk was the let down of that story for me too but honestly it was worth it for the cool Thor, Cap, and Iron Man moments. It even inspired Endgame
@@takatotakasui8307ell I don't like Engame as much now that I see the movie in retrospect. I just want justice for my snek boy... *sobs* i'll give fear itself one thing though, the Juggernaught moments were pretty damn cool.
Hulk, cul were letdowns for me cuz bro hulk got an upgrade and still lost…. Like what? That’s the hulk….. hulk who fights Thor on the daily. Hulk who punches as hard as Thor lol
@@moonknight4053 actually, its been documented thor always holds back on hulk. This includes hax, etc and overall power output. Only "all out" was starship hulk
I always thought that Thor has more powerful rogues . I mean, Supes has more human villains like Luthor, The Toyman, Morgan Edge, etc. The only real ones to worry about are Mr. Myx, Doomsday and maybe Brainaic.
@@BmoreStaxx - Yes, and Darkseid too. But there are too many “Normal” humans like Lex, Morgan, etc . Is Thor able to resist telepathic attacks? I think that he has shown that he has been able to. If so, Brainiac shouldn’t be too much of a problem. The Cyborg Superman is one of my favorite villains, but I don’t see him beating Thor.
@@mrhrobinson - Definitely; but I think that outside of Mr. Myx, Thor has the more powerful Rogues Gallery due to Surtur (Especially with The Twilight Sword.).
Every vid where the sentry and the void is mentioned is a great vid. And agree the void is something Superman is willing to fight while the sentry would be like fighting a corrupted ally
I disagree w/ Superman being able to take the Void (invulnerable and matter manipulation) or Black Winter (an equivalent to the Great Darkness on a smaller level and because of Thor's power scale in that encounter). For that reason I want to argue Thor would be the capable against True Form Darkseid but he wiped the entire quintessence in one shot so that version and yellow lantern undead Darkseid probably washing. I also agree w Mangog tho 😂 Superman definitely hitting it with the s tier talk no jutsu lol. Solid list
I saw this question online and I wanted to see your take on it If superman and juggernaut were running/flying each other at full speed which one would come out on top
Yeah the problem with this is, even though Juggernaught has infinite momentum, he can't accelerate *nearly* as fast as superman can without outside help.
W vid i actually liked how you adressed the thor vs braniac battle. Also goon what is your take on garou being more skilled than batman because i honestly dont think thats true?
Wasn’t there something along the lines of the stars being like a symbol of divinity which is why Knull was somewhat stalled by the sun that Surfer created? I feel as though Superman, on a first encounter with Knull, would legit cook this man for a time with this heat vision since it’s literally concentrated solar energy iirc
Skurge, enchantress, Hela, fenrir, etc it’s cool see Thor have a huge list of rogues. But man bring them bk!! We need more villains for a lot of these marvel characters
Don't underestimate lokis Tomfuckery! Most of the mortal heroes struggle to keep up with Loki's antics unless they're one the top 10 smartest on the planet.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 I hear that, he’s definitely a tactical genius but Thor can just run his hammer through his nostrils and kill him anytime he wants
@@jamesthompson5287I mean whenever it's clearly loki. Loki's nit like in a hundred places at once, or a random animal, or disguisesed as one of his friends. Or doing all those things at once
Awesome video! I love this series. I would love to see a battle swap between the Dragonborn from Elder Scrolls and another comic book character. But tbh he really only has two main battles to pick so I don't see that happening lol. Anyway, this video is awesome. I'm looking forward to more in the future
I do have to disagree on the Superman vs Black Winter one because didn't Thor actually have to use Galactus as a bomb to destroy the Black Winter? I know that Galactus has low end feats, but he also has high ones as well, so it's only fair you use the high feats of some of the characters the same as the low feats. Yes Galactus is one of the biggest jobbers, which is why I think his high feats we should go by. I also read somewhere that the writers had made a Justice League tease in the beginning of the Black Winter run where it had showed Black Winter destroying their universe. I know it was not the true Justice League but I feel the writer was trying to say that is what would of happened if they were the Justice League, but even if we do not accept that I do not see a way Superman can win here.
here's my attemp at Goku fight superman's foes 1. Loses to world forger 2. Parasite getting the cell treatment 3. Lex Luthor if he gets prep time he wins otherwise, I think Goku got it. 4. Brainaic wins 5. Mr. Myx got isn't winning this fight but because of his nature, I can see Goku befriending him like he did with Zeno. 6. DARKSIDE IS. 7. Get the dragon balls 8. I think Goku could win with the evil containment wave or hakai 9. Lobo wins 10. Super boys yells at goku about how GT is better than Super 11. I think Goku beats Zod extreme diff 12. High-el goku win through spiritbomb 13. I think Goku wins the same way like Thor does 14. This bum losing 15. Mongel wins
Superman still holds back a lot when fighting doomsday and willing takes punches he could easily dodge think about it he with limitless stamina can break the bonds of infinity with pure flight, time travel, go 100s of trillions of miles before a heart beat then he definitely allowing doomsday to attack him who’s slow asf in comparison plus supes beat Mxy, World forger, god brainiac , and Tf darkseid with just his voice and you think he can’t handle knull 😂 lmfao
Going by the "wins" Superman has here, he HAS to be a low level reality warper or have massive control over energy & molecules manipulation to defeat Thor's villains. Over the years, it's been shown Thor has more powers to defeat his enemies than merely hitting them hard and moving fast.
Except he isn't, superman is just fast and strong and just punches his way out of stuff, but he doesn't have half the arsenal that Thor has, doesn't have the experience and intellect, Superman would lose 80% of these battles against Thor villains cuz he's not equipped and he has a serious disadvantage due to his weakness against magic, that would cost him greatly, There's no way superman is beating Surthur when he couldn't even scratch Trigon🤣
@@trinibad6318Superman is no mindless brawler and fought with his Thor for thousands of years . He is also MUCH Smarter dawg 😂 Bruh made tge dream machine from memory and thats just NEW 52 . He DOES have lots of abilities , he simply doesn't use them much cuz if his nature .
@@trinibad6318Bizarro killed Trigon 😐 AND became king of hell for a while . Im pretty sure magic isn't a factor here , since Source > most forms of Magic and Superman can contend with powers equal to or greater than that .
Ugh, the STP situation was a mess. Some people got off too easy cause too many people was focused on Seth. I think the power scaling community as a whole took an L on that one.
“Superman has a slightly EASIER road” when Thor a god has magic and Superman is weak against magic which, ALL OF THOR’s rogues master?! The CELESTIALS pimp slap most of the DC universe and Superman will just fly through them? Lmao. And the Serpent? You are confusing Jormungand with Odin’s brother. Two different serpents. And Superman DIES with the Midgard serpent. Point blank. Thor casually defeats Doomsday. A weak GALACTUS still scales way above Doomsday. Mangog easily destroys HunterPrey Doomsday whose strength isn’t on par nor his durability. Where was the Destroyer? Or does Superman just punch through this too? I find it funny you kept putting up Superman and his “Infinite hope” BS but just used base level Thor? Funny huh? Wonder why?
Bro there is no way Superman can beat gorr it took 3 Thor's young thor present thor and the all father thor still they can't defeat gorr....no way superman can beat three Thor's at a time no way @@BigSirSplash
@@BigSirSplash lmao you gotta make a video then and explain. Like how is he supposed to deal with Hisoka's bungee gum if he can't see it? Ain't no way he just walks in and solos them. Royal Gaurds especially, unless you use a high end version like the one who kicked the Specter.
@@bobopatchnosuke229 Becuse of nen Hax? Like those guys who Killua fought who could summon the darts, or all the new nen beast stuff in the new arc. Or Netero's big whechamacallit. How could most versions of Batman deal with that without prep? Tsuriednich could potentially perseption blitz and one shot him and he wouldn't even know what hit him.
The whole symbol of hope thing is kinda cool because it makes tangible the plot armor he’s always had. It is weird though because by that logic you can kind of argue nothing in fiction could ever defeat him, which we know is not true.
Hope scales above the Great Darkness which is equal to the Presence . Thsts why he believes it would beat most of these people standardly ( not including at FP and if Superman used his FP)
Some of these characters use magic Superman's second weakness I don't really see him beating some of these characters but at the same time I do. Hella mixed feeling here😂
Mid to high dif for both Silver Surfer and Galactus?! You have a lot of videos clowning both these guys, but can you actually do a video on their feats, because I would argue there are some instances were Silver Surfer would obliterate Superman, especially as he’s portrayed in vintage Silver Surfer comics.
@@BigSirSplash OK… that does make him look like a punk, BUT can’t the Silver Surfer travel half a million light years in rapid-fire succession, fly from one side of the universe to the other and visited/analysed every planet in multiple galaxies in a matter of hours, has enough raw strength to pulverize white dwarf stars and pull people/places/things from a supermassive black hole?! He also has cosmic energy/radiation manipulation (which is like everything-light, heat, plasma, etc.) and he basically can’t be detected by anyone with infrared vision. This is the same Silver Surfer that can fully recover from complete atomic destruction and has lived nearly 15 billion years. I just… think the scaling is off. And Superman has been beaten and slapped around from some clowns too. I just think Silver Surfer is underestimated is all.
@@BigSirSplash I’m not, like, an expert. Lol. But like, you know how you used to hate on Superman, and now you love him?! I would just like to see a little love for Silver Surfer. Is that too much to ask? I’m not saying that Superman wouldn’t beat him, but mid-difficulty?! Come on!
The fact he says the Celestials would lose to Supes is ridiculous.🙄😅 The Surfer will do a quick scan of Superman and literally drained the solar energy out of him. Any Celestials will do worst, they are high level reality warpers with absolute control of the fundamental forces of the universe. What is a purer physical fighter like Superman do to them....hit them really hard??? They technically do not even have physical bodies
@@BigSirSplash well ben grim have his own physical strength which isn’t the same as supes for example his solar reserves is his superpowers and without that he’d just die in space since he would just be human.
The people I want to see switch battles is Batman vs the flash villains The flash can take a super punch and he can catch up to villains like zoom That weather villain I forgot his name he can make a tsunami and you touch the water and your frozen and he can make the battle in freezing rain it’s just to much for Batman to deal with the flash would look at Batman villains and laugh the joker a crazy idiot with a gun 2 seconds fight over the Goblins he might take a minute
Toji Fushiguro ( Jujutsu Kaisen ) vs Batman ( no op batsuits or any crazy scaling that can get batman to universal or outer). Could the Sorcerer Killer kill The Batman?
Ya I see people say batman can beat green lantern throw hands with wonder woman but true scaling batman loses just like he would get stomped by itachi 😂
If you’re going by top tier fears and using plot armor, anyone can beat anyone. Normal supes couldn’t handle a celestial, surtur, galactus when he’s not hungry, etc. Thor doesn’t beat any of these guys unless he has the Odin force or plot armor either. Also supes is vulnerable to magic. Loki could easily conjure up kryptonite or red sun radiation, etc.
@@dwightbaldwin5500 Superman on his best day couldn't beat the Silver Surfer, and especially not Galactus. They can create various waves and forms of cosmic energy (including red sun waves) and transmutate matter just to name a few things. They could turn Superman's close into Kryptonite and blast him with red sun cosmic waves. Loki stabbing Superman with his magic knife is more deadly than he was given credit for.
Lemme save everyone the trouble: Superman wins all his fights, beats Knull, Black WInter, Galactus, God of Stories Loki..., Thor loses most his fights. "Technically argue" Superman was amped vs World Forger...are you serious? How many full pages of him sundipping? Lol, tf. I feel this is a lot of DC wank with Superman plot armor for win cons.
@@BigSirSplash - I can only recall one or two. And the one was in Siege, where Sentry went crazy (Or was taken over by the Void or something . I never understood The Void thing .), and basically wanted Thor to kill him.
I’m gonna be honest I don’t see Thor being able to take on current Superman’s enemies. I see him at least getting to Zod though. As for Supes I see him getting to Mangog and Skyfather level enemies of Thor.
@@robertrainford6754 doomsday folds thor in half. Darkseid pimp smacks thor casually in true form. Parasite either absorbs the odinforce by luck or gets one shotted. That's how parasite works. Superboy prime scales above Thor with ease and retcons his jaw. Thir dies embaressingly. World forger turns thor into a planet after one shooting him into dust. Mxy snaps his finger and turns thor into a flower or mxy creates a infinite number of Doomsdays with the ability to fly to gang up on thor. Thor dies horribly. Thor beats zod mid diff. Hel-el vs thor would be a mid diff fight in favor of thor. Thor vs Doombreaker, doombreaker turns thor into a pile of mush. Doombreaker is basically a sayjin on roids. Doombreaker instantly evolves while in battle and counters all of your powers. Is confirmed above doomsday and can fly and instantly grow whatever he needs to fight your powerset. Yea thor has his hands full and let's not even get into what imperiex would do to him.
@@cesaredits6726 Doomsday is a monster who early on was > true form darkseid and only got stronger from there. Please stop the downplay. There are no sources to justify doomsday downplay.
@allengeorge7989 sorry to say but you're not going to get through to a DC fan boy. Watch his other videos... he does nothing but ride dc like a pro pornstar
i think superman cant beat gorr mangog the black winter surtr and the celestials however thor should be able to beat doomsday and brainiac rest i agree with
Dude says Superman beating sentry, and you ain’t give no explanation for anyone at all, and remember the whole dc heroes couldn’t do nothing against the celestial giants that was eating the planet braniac brought them in
How would Superman beat the Silver Surfer with the power cosmic? He could literally strip the sun's power away from superman our blast him with various forms of red sun cosmic rays..... Galactus would be even worse...
Superman faced a superhuman being who can strip him of his power, it didn't work plus the power cosmic would probably amplify Superman, making him leagues more powerful. Superman absorbs energy in general, all types of energy except for magic and red sun radiation, not just the yellow sun.
Bruh you're basically saying Superman can solo Marvel Knull was team buster had celestial under his control. Sentry was a team buster went toe to toe with world breaker Hulk Void literally was stated to be able to kill the whole Marvel multiverse. But respect the video would love to have a debate all this is fun
Disagree with u on Thor v Doomsday. Doomsday is at his best fighting something that can’t kill him (as he’s died to it before). A war of attrition. Rune magic? The god last? That’s taking out doomsday splitlickity
J & B I was going back and forth with another fan and I couldn't help but wonder. What's your opinion on "The Flash" movie? Did you like it, hate it but I am sure you have an opinion. I love your channel Bro.
@@BigSirSplash LOL, it was so bad it will soon be on TV anyways. I thought they could have made better decisions to make the movie great but they fell short. It's not doing well at the box office.
400 likes in 17 hours? I feel like a bad bitch tbh
Baddest bitch on youtube 😂😂😂
Cause you are gang
Mxy will enjoy torturing Thor, Darkseid will attempt to brainwash Thor, lex gets the brakes beat off him
You're mistaken thor for a conan the barbarian clone.
Thor would be like orion.
Both created by Jack Kirby designed to be more higher level immortals existing above supermen.
*The original supes leaped buildings...he didn't fly until ten years later.
Would current Thor not completely shit stomp mxy?
@@Micklad2445current comic level thor stomps myx
@@bankhead832Explain how. Mix is High Outerversal
@@JakeRider-wc6ke Rune king thor oneshoted the Ones above in shadow who as shown in Loki agent of Asgard reside in the OUTSIDE which is above all outerversal layers of eternity (superflow, exospace, neutral zone , farshore, under space ,over space, etc)
I think Daredevil and Nightwing would be a cool swap
I’ve actually grown quite sick of hero A versus hero B battles a long time ago so this is actually quite refreshing.
Same with me.
Batman when he finds out Thor doesn't play games💀
Batman gets put in a pack by Thor
Been waiting for this one, it's finally here. SUPERGOAT and Thor GOATINSON. These two characters are very similar in their fighting styles to be honest. They are raw machines who trust in their brute strength instead of using a lot of strategy but they don't need to, they simply beat most people in fiction with raw power and speed.
90th better them not at all 😂
Superman has defeated plenty of enemies using his intellect. Read more Superman comics.
@@cactusblack5993 He doesn't need to use most of the time is my point, can't you read?
@@cactusblack5993not only that, their personalities matter too. Superman is a Boy Scout. He only goes to the extremes of absolutely necessary. He’s also regular human age so he takes things with greater consequences as he self consciously feels like a mortal man.
Thor is a warrior already thousands of years old. His threshold for the extreme as well as his view of it will be a lot different, where the extreme for Supes might not even be the extreme to him. He also does not take every minute thing as seriously and is a little more about the grand scheme of things in his meathead kinda way due to his position as an ancient God, and current all father. Big evidence to this is when we vents his timelessness to Cap due to time being perceived differently to him vs mortals.
Thor: YOU BURNED MY HOUSE TO THE GROUND!
Myx: lol yea
Superman: the Justice leagues banned me from the watch tower, i'm public enemy number one, and Darkseid sent me a thumbs up tweet?? WHAT THE HELLS GOING ON?!
loki: *wheeze laughs and changes back to his usual form after disguising himself as superman.*
Possible losses for Supes to me is Sentry, Mangog, Enchantress. Thor is able to break the world forger possibly draining the Odin force
Sentry is catching a fade against superman
It would be dope to see you start doing this with villians as well. Like Scarecrow and Mysterio for example
Hell yeah
Mysterio's in trouble. I feel like scarecrows pissed off more superheroes than vice versa.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 I’m not as knowledgeable about DC as I am Marvel, but I wouldn’t count Mysterio out too quickly. He has successfully tricked Wolverine into killing all of the X-Men before
Dope idea.
He did do villains
What if Captain America and Master Chief swapped fights?
Bump
Master Cheif dies. Cap thrives
I wanna see zemo sword fight master chief with an energy sword!
Master Chief does amazing just imagine stark upgrading Johns armor and gear
master chief would destroy red skull and winter soldier prolly
Love the respect for The Serpent. Fear Itself is so slept on.
I'm sorry I hate that story with a passion. Cul came out of nowhere as a character and made the already established jormungandrs existence in the verse needlessly confusing. I also automatically dislike any hulk form that's completely bald. It just makes him look like an ogre
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 Hulk was the let down of that story for me too but honestly it was worth it for the cool Thor, Cap, and Iron Man moments. It even inspired Endgame
@@takatotakasui8307ell I don't like Engame as much now that I see the movie in retrospect. I just want justice for my snek boy... *sobs* i'll give fear itself one thing though, the Juggernaught moments were pretty damn cool.
Hulk, cul were letdowns for me cuz bro hulk got an upgrade and still lost…. Like what? That’s the hulk….. hulk who fights Thor on the daily. Hulk who punches as hard as Thor lol
@@moonknight4053 actually, its been documented thor always holds back on hulk. This includes hax, etc and overall power output. Only "all out" was starship hulk
Apocalyse trades with Black Adam would be a good one!!!
I always thought that Thor has more powerful rogues . I mean, Supes has more human villains like Luthor, The Toyman, Morgan Edge, etc. The only real ones to worry about are Mr. Myx, Doomsday and maybe Brainaic.
... I left a list
and darkseid
@@BmoreStaxx - Yes, and Darkseid too. But there are too many “Normal” humans like Lex, Morgan, etc . Is Thor able to resist telepathic attacks? I think that he has shown that he has been able to. If so, Brainiac shouldn’t be too much of a problem. The Cyborg Superman is one of my favorite villains, but I don’t see him beating Thor.
Bizzaro, Mongul, Roz al Gor, and quite a few others would give thor issues.
@@mrhrobinson - Definitely; but I think that outside of Mr. Myx, Thor has the more powerful Rogues Gallery due to Surtur (Especially with The Twilight Sword.).
Every vid where the sentry and the void is mentioned is a great vid. And agree the void is something Superman is willing to fight while the sentry would be like fighting a corrupted ally
I disagree w/ Superman being able to take the Void (invulnerable and matter manipulation) or Black Winter (an equivalent to the Great Darkness on a smaller level and because of Thor's power scale in that encounter). For that reason I want to argue Thor would be the capable against True Form Darkseid but he wiped the entire quintessence in one shot so that version and yellow lantern undead Darkseid probably washing. I also agree w Mangog tho 😂 Superman definitely hitting it with the s tier talk no jutsu lol. Solid list
These nicknames fuckin hilarious too 😂🤣
Read darkcrisis comics you will know you answer, Superman is much more powerful than you think
What if Batman and Captain America swapped ops?
The picture of Superman stopping Thor mid swing breaks my heart.....*sigh*
JLA/Avengers?
Why?
Why tho?
Pretty accurate tbh
Looks dope to me
I really liked that you even pointed out how and why superman will go all out
Need that Thor World crossover with Mongol
That would be epicccccc, that'd be a great fight. I think Thor wins with mid-high difficultly.
I saw this question online and I wanted to see your take on it
If superman and juggernaut were running/flying each other at full speed which one would come out on top
My money's on the boy scout
Yeah the problem with this is, even though Juggernaught has infinite momentum, he can't accelerate *nearly* as fast as superman can without outside help.
Superman tbh.
Thing is superman has insane speed feats.
I think Superman is smart enough, to defeat, a charging Juggernaut, without destroying the universe!
my first time coming across your channel, this series idea is interesting. never seen anyone do anything like this.
Appreciate you!
@@BigSirSplash No problem man .
W vid i actually liked how you adressed the thor vs braniac battle. Also goon what is your take on garou being more skilled than batman because i honestly dont think thats true?
I Lowkey need to see that
If Black Panther and Batman Swapped Battles Video 💯
Hopefully someone pays for the video foreal 💪🏿. If not i will soon 🤣
Wasn’t there something along the lines of the stars being like a symbol of divinity which is why Knull was somewhat stalled by the sun that Surfer created? I feel as though Superman, on a first encounter with Knull, would legit cook this man for a time with this heat vision since it’s literally concentrated solar energy iirc
Skurge, enchantress, Hela, fenrir, etc it’s cool see Thor have a huge list of rogues. But man bring them bk!! We need more villains for a lot of these marvel characters
I’d say Thor loses to Loki most of the time only because Thor sees him as his brother and doesn’t want to pack him up
Don't underestimate lokis Tomfuckery! Most of the mortal heroes struggle to keep up with Loki's antics unless they're one the top 10 smartest on the planet.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55so basically guys like Dr. Doom or a powered up black panther
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 I hear that, he’s definitely a tactical genius but Thor can just run his hammer through his nostrils and kill him anytime he wants
@@jamesthompson5287I mean whenever it's clearly loki. Loki's nit like in a hundred places at once, or a random animal, or disguisesed as one of his friends. Or doing all those things at once
Awesome video! I love this series. I would love to see a battle swap between the Dragonborn from Elder Scrolls and another comic book character. But tbh he really only has two main battles to pick so I don't see that happening lol. Anyway, this video is awesome. I'm looking forward to more in the future
May do him and superman
@@BigSirSplash That would be super interesting. Superman vs Alduin would go crazy
I do have to disagree on the Superman vs Black Winter one because didn't Thor actually have to use Galactus as a bomb to destroy the Black Winter? I know that Galactus has low end feats, but he also has high ones as well, so it's only fair you use the high feats of some of the characters the same as the low feats. Yes Galactus is one of the biggest jobbers, which is why I think his high feats we should go by. I also read somewhere that the writers had made a Justice League tease in the beginning of the Black Winter run where it had showed Black Winter destroying their universe. I know it was not the true Justice League but I feel the writer was trying to say that is what would of happened if they were the Justice League, but even if we do not accept that I do not see a way Superman can win here.
Base Superman is above scaling
There is no way normal Clark beats Galen let alone BW. Thor had OF and power cosmic Amp He was multiversal in that arch
@@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester base Clark is boundless my bro
@rpond nope amped versions can do things base Clark gets clapped by Cosmics etc
@@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester 🤦♂️
here's my attemp at Goku fight superman's foes
1. Loses to world forger
2. Parasite getting the cell treatment
3. Lex Luthor if he gets prep time he wins otherwise, I think Goku got it.
4. Brainaic wins
5. Mr. Myx got isn't winning this fight but because of his nature, I can see Goku befriending him like he did with Zeno.
6. DARKSIDE IS.
7. Get the dragon balls
8. I think Goku could win with the evil containment wave or hakai
9. Lobo wins
10. Super boys yells at goku about how GT is better than Super
11. I think Goku beats Zod extreme diff
12. High-el goku win through spiritbomb
13. I think Goku wins the same way like Thor does
14. This bum losing
15. Mongel wins
If Doomsday can k!ll Superman Knull could . Most definitely!!! 👊 🌟
I mean Superman won't need time travel to pull off a punch with 3 different versions of himself, Thor had to time travel to do that.
Superman still holds back a lot when fighting doomsday and willing takes punches he could easily dodge think about it he with limitless stamina can break the bonds of infinity with pure flight, time travel, go 100s of trillions of miles before a heart beat then he definitely allowing doomsday to attack him who’s slow asf in comparison plus supes beat Mxy, World forger, god brainiac , and Tf darkseid with just his voice and you think he can’t handle knull 😂 lmfao
@@youngcactusjacklol he's not holding back against doomsday lol wtf he literally said multiple times he has gone all out when fight Doomsday lol
@@mostshenanigans that was against gorr not knull
Great video your underrated
What if Loki paid lobo to cause ragnarok
I feel that Superman should of lost 2 or more fights mainly the Celestials and Knull
No for real if poison ivy caught Superman slipping enchantresses definitely will
TBH, she used Kryptonite and Batman: Hush is over 20 years old. Superman is way more powerful now.
@@sorin-3510 but enchantresses is magic based her mind hax’s are definitely going to work
@@braedenmartin8596 Superman isn't weak against magic. It just does more damage than a normal attack.
@@sorin-3510 yeah and her mind haxs are magic based so they will be extra effective against Superman
Superman has snapped out of mind hax before , enchantress will get blitzed without even getting a chance to react.
I love this series it's so fun.
Thank you!
But can Jon Jones beat a Mountain Lion?
no
(Don’t worry, I’ll pay for the video this week)
Jon Jones with a shotgun can beat a Mountain Lion
Going by the "wins" Superman has here, he HAS to be a low level reality warper or have massive control over energy & molecules manipulation to defeat Thor's villains.
Over the years, it's been shown Thor has more powers to defeat his enemies than merely hitting them hard and moving fast.
Basically, yeah. What else would a man be to whom concepts like distance, time, length and width and other things have lost their meaning to?
Except he isn't, superman is just fast and strong and just punches his way out of stuff, but he doesn't have half the arsenal that Thor has, doesn't have the experience and intellect, Superman would lose 80% of these battles against Thor villains cuz he's not equipped and he has a serious disadvantage due to his weakness against magic, that would cost him greatly, There's no way superman is beating Surthur when he couldn't even scratch Trigon🤣
@@trinibad6318Superman is no mindless brawler and fought with his Thor for thousands of years .
He is also MUCH Smarter dawg 😂 Bruh made tge dream machine from memory and thats just NEW 52 .
He DOES have lots of abilities , he simply doesn't use them much cuz if his nature .
@@trinibad6318Bizarro killed Trigon 😐 AND became king of hell for a while .
Im pretty sure magic isn't a factor here , since Source > most forms of Magic and Superman can contend with powers equal to or greater than that .
Lobo and Thor being galactic buddies goes hard
Do what if Seth the programmer and edp switched battles
Lol I’d pay to see that video.
Ugh, the STP situation was a mess. Some people got off too easy cause too many people was focused on Seth. I think the power scaling community as a whole took an L on that one.
Seth washes and Edp is fat asf and does not have that dawg In him
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“Superman has a slightly EASIER road” when Thor a god has magic and Superman is weak against magic which, ALL OF THOR’s rogues master?!
The CELESTIALS pimp slap most of the DC universe and Superman will just fly through them? Lmao. And the Serpent? You are confusing Jormungand with Odin’s brother. Two different serpents. And Superman DIES with the Midgard serpent. Point blank.
Thor casually defeats Doomsday. A weak GALACTUS still scales way above Doomsday. Mangog easily destroys HunterPrey Doomsday whose strength isn’t on par nor his durability.
Where was the Destroyer? Or does Superman just punch through this too? I find it funny you kept putting up Superman and his “Infinite hope” BS but just used base level Thor? Funny huh? Wonder why?
Beating Gorr mid dif is Crazy gang
So is pushing back the Great Darkness beyond Creation. But superman did.
Shoutout to Hope> Great Darkness of Pariah but we draw the line at.... Gorr.
@@BigSirSplash did he do that mid dif
Bro there is no way Superman can beat gorr it took 3 Thor's young thor present thor and the all father thor still they can't defeat gorr....no way superman can beat three Thor's at a time no way @@BigSirSplash
Here's an idea for a video. Batman with prep time vs either the Phantom Troupe or the Royal Guard from Hunter x Hunter.
The fact you said batman needs prep for that. I might kill myself
Why does Batman need prep against HXH
@@BigSirSplash lmao you gotta make a video then and explain. Like how is he supposed to deal with Hisoka's bungee gum if he can't see it?
Ain't no way he just walks in and solos them. Royal Gaurds especially, unless you use a high end version like the one who kicked the Specter.
@@bobopatchnosuke229 Becuse of nen Hax? Like those guys who Killua fought who could summon the darts, or all the new nen beast stuff in the new arc. Or Netero's big whechamacallit. How could most versions of Batman deal with that without prep? Tsuriednich could potentially perseption blitz and one shot him and he wouldn't even know what hit him.
That What if sounds fun
How about what if the Rogues and the Sinister Six swapped?
cool video dude do you think you can retouch on namor and aquaman again maybe even in this style of where they swap rogues
Thor would bully tf outta lex, lex got nothin on him
Impossible man and mxy swapp fight next pls.
Good video and assessment overall.
Loki is a sorcerer supreme caliber magician plus he has very good fighting ability.
Marvel magic would give Superman the fight of his life
You should do one with Goku.
The whole symbol of hope thing is kinda cool because it makes tangible the plot armor he’s always had. It is weird though because by that logic you can kind of argue nothing in fiction could ever defeat him, which we know is not true.
Hope scales above the Great Darkness which is equal to the Presence .
Thsts why he believes it would beat most of these people standardly ( not including at FP and if Superman used his FP)
Great vid Splash!
Black Adam and Sentry
And there's number three-hundred. Whoo!
what if mongul invaded asguard
With the War world! It can be done
Hell yeah these videos are always dope
Some of these characters use magic Superman's second weakness I don't really see him beating some of these characters but at the same time I do. Hella mixed feeling here😂
Pretty sure one of superman‘s weaknesses is magic
It means not invulnerable to magic he’s nigh invulnerable to standard attacks
I found your channel through TrueUnderdawg
Let's see that war world what if
Mid to high dif for both Silver Surfer and Galactus?! You have a lot of videos clowning both these guys, but can you actually do a video on their feats, because I would argue there are some instances were Silver Surfer would obliterate Superman, especially as he’s portrayed in vintage Silver Surfer comics.
Vintage silver surfer got KOd in one punch by Ben Grimm, folded by one of the weakest versions of iron man and got dunked on by mexicans
@@BigSirSplash OK… that does make him look like a punk, BUT can’t the Silver Surfer travel half a million light years in rapid-fire succession, fly from one side of the universe to the other and visited/analysed every planet in multiple galaxies in a matter of hours, has enough raw strength to pulverize white dwarf stars and pull people/places/things from a supermassive black hole?! He also has cosmic energy/radiation manipulation (which is like everything-light, heat, plasma, etc.) and he basically can’t be detected by anyone with infrared vision. This is the same Silver Surfer that can fully recover from complete atomic destruction and has lived nearly 15 billion years. I just… think the scaling is off. And Superman has been beaten and slapped around from some clowns too. I just think Silver Surfer is underestimated is all.
@@fadingnebulous i was hoping you would name something that would help his case
@@BigSirSplash I’m not, like, an expert. Lol. But like, you know how you used to hate on Superman, and now you love him?! I would just like to see a little love for Silver Surfer. Is that too much to ask? I’m not saying that Superman wouldn’t beat him, but mid-difficulty?! Come on!
@@fadingnebulous how do i love superman? I just made a video discussing why hes annoying. People just say anything in here
Howbout a Luthor vs Doom swap?
Bump
Do superman really beat silver surfer? I mean like surfer can sense supes solar radiation and absorb it out of him. Surfer should win low diff.
Damn!!! Wait so Ben grimm>>>>>superman?
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO START A CHANNEL I LOVE YOUR SCALING
The fact he says the Celestials would lose to Supes is ridiculous.🙄😅
The Surfer will do a quick scan of Superman and literally drained the solar energy out of him. Any Celestials will do worst, they are high level reality warpers with absolute control of the fundamental forces of the universe.
What is a purer physical fighter like Superman do to them....hit them really hard??? They technically do not even have physical bodies
@@BigSirSplash well ben grim have his own physical strength which isn’t the same as supes for example his solar reserves is his superpowers and without that he’d just die in space since he would just be human.
@@jmartradioif antimonitor can’t do that to Superman then no celestial can
Great video analysis 🎉
Comic and MCU Hela is underrated. I think she would have folded Thanos as well in the MCU if he had to go to Asgard to get the Tesseract
He wouldn't have done that 😊
Even Thor is stronger on asgard imagine it not existing at all is why he gets his ass kicked so bad in endgame
The people I want to see switch battles is Batman vs the flash villains The flash can take a super punch and he can catch up to villains like zoom That weather villain I forgot his name he can make a tsunami and you touch the water and your frozen and he can make the battle in freezing rain it’s just to much for Batman to deal with the flash would look at Batman villains and laugh the joker a crazy idiot with a gun 2 seconds fight over the Goblins he might take a minute
Toji Fushiguro ( Jujutsu Kaisen ) vs Batman ( no op batsuits or any crazy scaling that can get batman to universal or outer). Could the Sorcerer Killer kill The Batman?
Ya I see people say batman can beat green lantern throw hands with wonder woman but true scaling batman loses just like he would get stomped by itachi 😂
The goat lobo was mentioned
What if hellstar remina from hellstar remina is in the Warhammer 40K universe ?
Myx could lose with the all speak being able to speak his name backwards. 8/10 Thor loses that
I don’t think you know the Thor villains too well. Most of them would run a train on Supes.
Word. Most scale above the source, & the great darkness from crisis & its avatars?
Dwight baldwin has changed the game.
If you’re going by top tier fears and using plot armor, anyone can beat anyone. Normal supes couldn’t handle a celestial, surtur, galactus when he’s not hungry, etc.
Thor doesn’t beat any of these guys unless he has the Odin force or plot armor either.
Also supes is vulnerable to magic. Loki could easily conjure up kryptonite or red sun radiation, etc.
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Superman on his best day couldn't beat the Silver Surfer, and especially not Galactus.
They can create various waves and forms of cosmic energy (including red sun waves) and transmutate matter just to name a few things.
They could turn Superman's close into Kryptonite and blast him with red sun cosmic waves. Loki stabbing Superman with his magic knife is more deadly than he was given credit for.
Superman would have a harder road because he is weaker to magic and Supernatural powers.
@@davidberry3738 supes beats those two jobbers pretty easy tf you talking about
Yes I would like to see Asgard vs war world
Let’s fucking gooooooo
Does anyone have the comic book. where Captain America gave Superman his shield an Thor gave him his Hammer
JLA/Avengers #4
Lemme save everyone the trouble: Superman wins all his fights, beats Knull, Black WInter, Galactus, God of Stories Loki..., Thor loses most his fights.
"Technically argue" Superman was amped vs World Forger...are you serious? How many full pages of him sundipping? Lol, tf. I feel this is a lot of DC wank with Superman plot armor for win cons.
The Sentry is a THOR villain? What? Hela is really only powerful in her realm.
Yeah Thor has had multiple battles
@@BigSirSplash - I can only recall one or two. And the one was in Siege, where Sentry went crazy (Or was taken over by the Void or something . I never understood The Void thing .), and basically wanted Thor to kill him.
Who told you that definitely not true she can kill anyone with a touch even outside her realm
Black Panther and Aqua man battle swap?
I’m gonna be honest I don’t see Thor being able to take on current Superman’s enemies. I see him at least getting to Zod though. As for Supes I see him getting to Mangog and Skyfather level enemies of Thor.
Thor is more op than most of Superman’s enemies at base.
@@robertrainford6754 doomsday folds thor in half.
Darkseid pimp smacks thor casually in true form.
Parasite either absorbs the odinforce by luck or gets one shotted. That's how parasite works.
Superboy prime scales above Thor with ease and retcons his jaw. Thir dies embaressingly.
World forger turns thor into a planet after one shooting him into dust.
Mxy snaps his finger and turns thor into a flower or mxy creates a infinite number of Doomsdays with the ability to fly to gang up on thor. Thor dies horribly.
Thor beats zod mid diff.
Hel-el vs thor would be a mid diff fight in favor of thor.
Thor vs Doombreaker, doombreaker turns thor into a pile of mush. Doombreaker is basically a sayjin on roids. Doombreaker instantly evolves while in battle and counters all of your powers. Is confirmed above doomsday and can fly and instantly grow whatever he needs to fight your powerset.
Yea thor has his hands full and let's not even get into what imperiex would do to him.
@@cesaredits6726 1.Your spelling is horrible.
2.Thor gets shitstomped by doomsday.
@@cesaredits6726 Doomsday is a monster who early on was > true form darkseid and only got stronger from there. Please stop the downplay. There are no sources to justify doomsday downplay.
@@mel-el5862 Thor slams parasite what drugs are you on and prime would win high diff
God of stories Loki definitely would be a different case
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how the hell can superman beat blackwinter bro u are out of mind?
Bro has black winter above GED amped darkseid?
Word.
@@BigSirSplash bro do u think black winter is just a universe eater? he is the true death in marvel
@allengeorge7989 sorry to say but you're not going to get through to a DC fan boy. Watch his other videos... he does nothing but ride dc like a pro pornstar
Both great both goted both powerful
Great vidoe
I like both characters, they are dope.
Deadpool and Deathstroke would be really cool!
what about rune king thor and whatever the strongest superman is
i think superman cant beat gorr mangog the black winter surtr and the celestials however thor should be able to beat doomsday and brainiac rest i agree with
He’s proven time and time again he can actually
What about Martian Manhunter/Gladiator,Sentry,Blue Marvel?????
Dude says Superman beating sentry, and you ain’t give no explanation for anyone at all, and remember the whole dc heroes couldn’t do nothing against the celestial giants that was eating the planet braniac brought them in
I have multiple superman videos
You saw superman neg the great darkness and action comic#1054?
Supes can definitely beat a unstable sentry and the void . But stable sentry Is completely different story
Batman and Black Panther swap would be interesting as well
Doomsday mangog swap would be cool
It does sound cool, but I just realized Doomsday has waaay more ops than mangog does
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 yeah but mangog literally feeds off of anger which is a bad matchup for doomsday
Red Hood & MoonKnight?
YO loved the vid man! You finished reading one piece yet?
Im around 1000
12:35 had me laughing
next do John Wick and Trigon
How would Superman beat the Silver Surfer with the power cosmic? He could literally strip the sun's power away from superman our blast him with various forms of red sun cosmic rays..... Galactus would be even worse...
Superman faced a superhuman being who can strip him of his power, it didn't work plus the power cosmic would probably amplify Superman, making him leagues more powerful. Superman absorbs energy in general, all types of energy except for magic and red sun radiation, not just the yellow sun.
Bruh you're basically saying Superman can solo Marvel Knull was team buster had celestial under his control. Sentry was a team buster went toe to toe with world breaker Hulk Void literally was stated to be able to kill the whole Marvel multiverse. But respect the video would love to have a debate all this is fun
Great job on doomsday and true Darkseid and lobo
What if Archangel and Hawkman swapped fights???
Disagree with u on Thor v Doomsday. Doomsday is at his best fighting something that can’t kill him (as he’s died to it before). A war of attrition. Rune magic? The god last? That’s taking out doomsday splitlickity
God of stories Loki would give no fucks.
J & B I was going back and forth with another fan and I couldn't help but wonder. What's your opinion on "The Flash" movie?
Did you like it, hate it but I am sure you have an opinion. I love your channel Bro.
I didnt see that shit and barely anyone went to see it.
@@BigSirSplash LOL, it was so bad it will soon be on TV anyways. I thought they could have made better decisions to make the movie great but they fell short. It's not doing well at the box office.