The MCU expands its mythology and universe by going back to the beginning....of Earths' history. Here's my review of Marvel Studios' ETERNALS! #Eternals
The sell isn't Chris Pratt (although maybe that was the intention). The sell is that almost every single actor picked for that movie seems out of left field.
Thats true actually I still look for Chris bale , Benedict Cumberbatch, Chris Hemsworth ,hela actress ,Denzel Washington, jake Gyllenhaal and many other actors movies
Funny you felt the dc similarities….cause Jack Kirby created both the Eternals AND the New Gods from DC. As it stands, it appears that the New Gods are more popular amongst comic book readers (partly because there are more comics about them).
Plus I do think it strongly helps, at least speaking as a kid of the 90s/2000s, the Bruce Timm DC universe clearly explains and sets up who they are and why Darkseid is their enemy. It wasn’t Superman defeats Darkseid and the New Gods come out of nowhere.
My last Thought Experiment got me banned "Are you still a Grandchild if your Grandparents die" "Are you still a Sibling if your Siblings die" I'm morbid AF
I swear every comment I see says “I must be one of the few who loved it” haha.. I honestly feel like I’m in the few who agrees with the critics. The concepts were interesting, but the pacing was a total mess. Every other scene they seemed to add some new random subplot, and none of the payoffs felt like they had any weight since there was hardly any build. Spoiler: One example, what even was the point of the lead deviant? He gained a higher intelligence, had the ability to absorb the eternals powers, then just died. We already knew the celestials were ruthless, so he didn’t really add anything. There was already too much going on with so many characters, it would’ve been better to just not include it.
im surprised so many people in these comments are in love with the movie. i thought it sucked. so far only thing worth a damn in phase 4 has been wanda vision, loki, shang chi, no way home, hawkeye kind of and thats about it i think. id say dr strange movie will be unreal
Yes he did, even when the strongest eternal in the scene where he killed ajak by throwing her to the deviants, she even asked “why not just kill the deviants“ they were a distraction the whole time cause he knew the eternals would try to stop the celestials from blowing up the planet
This needed to be a tv series. Amazing Characters, great concepts, a twist that I legitimately didn't see coming... But some of the WORST pacing I've seen in a movie. Really shitty execution all around tbh. Also remember how Kingo just leaves for the climax, essentially betraying everyone, then comes back in the epilogue like everything is good? Fuck that guy
rule number 1 in EVERY movie with Angelina Jolie: she CANNOT be hurt or have any flaws, AJ's characters MIUST be Mary Sues. They tried to make her vulnerable and she even lost a fight to a guy--which is a NONO!! So to make up for it she gest to kill the baddie for reasons. End of story
They succeeded in making celestials feel big and scary , like I truly felt the immensity of their being. They could have wrapped all this up in a snap of a finger and not thought about it. I fear their return. They more powerful then anything we saw in the marvel universe
Couldn't agree more. I saw Arishem and was like, WOAH, another possible big-bad to throw into the mix of possible big-bads. So far Phase 4 is very much a Phase 1 Redux, in that everything so far is really just trying redefine the MCU as we've come to know it, which in-and-of-itself is not a bad thing, but I just wish that Marvel Studios would maybe swing for the fences a little more. Who know, maybe once Phase 4 is done, and Phase 5 starts, they'll be able to go even further with some of these interesting ideas, instead of falling back on formula too much.
It has to do with the mythological character Kingo is based on, kingu who is like a general / right hand man to tiamut, and in mythology kingu flees during the battle in which tiamut dies. All of their names are inspired by mythological figures and those figures stories greatly shape the plot and the character decisions of the movie.
Word. I was surprised by how much I liked Druig by the end. Plus, showing him fight expertly with that shotgun was dope. I like that he can still do some damage and play other roles without mind-control.
@@bladewolflq-84i86 that’s not true. I’m personally a big Holland fan. Also the Raimi characters are still a big deal because of those actors returning to play the character.
@@gamer3ed484 is true though, Homecoming or FFH trailers didnt broke any records and were forgettable SM movies, yet NWO trailer comes out with Molina Ock and Dafoe Goblin and the thing broke even Endgame records. If the next trailer shows Tobey with the suit again, bet your ass is gonna be the most hyped trailer in a CBM in the whole history.
@@austinhernandez2716 Read the comment like a fast talkin radio announcer: Come on we’ll go down to the big band hall and dance the loki after which have dinner of steak, champagne, potatoes, salad, a sundae and still have enough money left to skidoo our way home by trolley because it’s the 40’s and the war is over!
I've seen a lot of people torn on this movie, here's my thoughts: it wasn't bad, lots of cool concepts, but this does NOT have that much re-watchability
I just got out from a theater and it's bleh movie i'd rather watch Shang chi again heck i'd rather watch No Time To Die two times rather than watch Eternals
The writing was poor. Yes some of the concepts were cool but none of them were given the depth they needed. Also, the dialogue was terrible and there were some interesting subplots that were also super shallow and not given enough time despite the movie feeling like it went on five-ever
just saw it today on disney plus, and i had heard some not so great things about it and even heard it was the MCUs first flop, but i actually enjoyed it for what it was. it did feel very much like a justice league movie, despite the very similar characters, it had a more mature tone, and even does the whole gods wanting to be human thing too. the characters feel very human, except for the superman guy. i think things would of worked better if eternals was a series instead of a movie, i would of liked these characters fleshed out more. the whole deviant antagonist was kinda wasted, it was interesting that it kept evolving, but then wonder woman just kills it in the very end and thats the end of that story. i would have loved to see that story fleshed out more. overall 7/10 for me.
Better with the mustache CGI tho? 😂 Lol jk, DC have done movies with great visual effects too especially with The Dark Knight Trilogy which probably had a better CGI than this movie I guess
@@K0m30ng Aquaman alone solo's the entire MCU when it comes to CGI, dont get me wrong MCU has a respectable number of visually impressive movies, but Aquaman is just on an another level.
@@K0m30ng That CG mustache and Ugly Steppenwolf thing is outdone by Snyder Cut. Thank God Zack Snyder's Justice League happened and that movie is awesome and canon for me idc about Josshit league anymore
@@Razer5542 sean connery's spanish accent, lol. But I joke, I love that film flaws and all. Soundtrack has this Aladdin style art that's in the music video.
Well we got Jeremy talking philosophy out of this, that’s cool haha. Sounds like it’s caught between two worlds and people either wanted more of the other or they just haven’t got the blend right/the blend doesn’t mix
Are you saying their biggest conflict was deciding whether or not they should alter the evolution of a species/civilization, and that's why they haven't been active?
I actually really enjoyed it, more than other more recent marvel movies. I found that the fighting scenes felt intentional, I think a lot of times the MCU will just throw in fights because there hasn’t been one in 20 mins. But there wasn’t a lot of fighting in this movie. And it was cool seeing powers that we haven’t seen in the MCU before. I personally really enjoyed it i thought it still had it’s MCU stuff but was different enough.
What I understand so far about The Eternals is that there the equivalent to DCs Gods of New Genesis and Apokolips. They’re just OP super-powered aliens.
Because the same author created both, Jack Kirby, and in a meta way both the eternals and the new gods kind of complement each other since Kirby somewhat continued one story in the other.
@@satishchaudhary7301 Why would you pay to sleep in the theater? You must of been tired! Yeah you gotta interested in it to want to watch it. Did you watch a trailer before?
@@satishchaudhary7301 if you’re judging a character driven space opera on action movie standards you’re setting yourself up for disappointment. Nobody goes to watch bridesmaids expecting transformers then gets mad that there aren’t robot fights. Know what movie you’re going into, it helps with expectations. Dune was never supposed to be an action packed thrill ride.
I don't get the Dwayne Johnson side of things. Haven't seen a single good movie from him, unlike Reynolds who can be very entertaining, even in that Pikachu movie and I freaking hate Pokémon.
@@JoakimOtamaa as far as the quality of the movies to each their own but he's just very beloved overall as a person so people want to see everything he does,kinda like with Keanu Reeves too
@@JoakimOtamaa well i like quite a few of his movies,most are very silly and i think if that's what you're looking for it will probably work for you (very excited for Black Adam,hope that's a non silly one)
@@gustavoclarindo101 Yeah I liked some like The Mummy Returns, Scorpion King and that jungle one (Rundown? Not Jumanji) when I was a kid and watched WWE every Friday night. Jumanji was just okay imo. No reason to rewatch it for me.
When Game of Thrones was it's heights, the epic fight scenes or sex and violance don't grab my attention. I was more interested upon seeing the delivery of those great lines from the books by people in dark rooms about the human condition. I know this sounds ridicoules, but wanted from the Eternals to adapt the source material as weird science fiction way like how House of X and reimagined Marvel's mutants.
Just about your rant on human colonization of other worlds, there is a pretty low chance of humans actually reaching a habitable planet outside our system that isn’t 10s of light years away, and we would mostly be terraforming planets like Mars with minimal if any life that would be almost impossible to have it go to be a true civilization.
I love how deep and detailed this review got! Thanks a lot for going into it futher whilst still keeping it vague. It seems this turned out just how I expected it would though 😔.
Just saw this movie and I actually like it a lot. I mean it’s nothing spectacular but not near as bad as critics say it is. Really like most of the characters actually having their own personalities besides the main character, she was a bit one dimensional. Sprite or however her name is spelled was a great character. For the most part I like how the lore of eternals and celestials were portrayed in the movie.
@@raziphaz2219 I liked her character in the sense that she has a bit more depth about her compared to sersi and icarus. She’s stuck in a kids body and hates that and wants to be able to grow into an adult form. That and her Being jealous of sersi because she likes icarus. And I think the actress did a good job lol.
Loved that movie and hated it at the same time. I loved everything about it, but it just felt that little something was missing. Dr Manhattan is just great and Billy Crudup don’t get enough love. That guy is a legend
@@valeria262 The Watchmen is about men, life , humanity. Sometimes the good are bad Sometimes evil does win. In order to make a great future , someone has to get their hands dirty. Prime example is Police Officers. Love them or hate them, they face finding a child not breathing or having to shoot someone on a daily basis. Not every man or woman can sleep at night doing that. But that person may have just saved a lady from a deadly assault. Not all heroes wear capes. THE WATCHMEN
At this point the MCU is just mass produced repetitive generic action movies that are politically sterile and don't push any boundaries.... Basically just cinematic "meh" on repeat
Yeah even as a huge Marvel fan, I’ve been disappointed by the mediocrity they’ve been producing for the last 2 years. That’s bc endgame signaled the end of the story but it’s Disney so…
yeah i think they can get one more saga done before ppl start really losing interest. superhero fatigue is inevitable, espescially marvel fatigue. it's just a question of when.
The most boring movie in the MCU in the last 15 years. I thought The Legend of the 10 Rings will be boring, but I've enjoyed that movie way more than the Eternals.
I feel like movie reviewers aren't allowed to say an MCU movie is bad. Like bro most of what you said pointed to this movie being not good but you land on an ign 7.
@@HalJordan661 just did... I don't see the issue... It seems like the movie is borderline good... How is that a strange thing? Any RT score in the 60s and 70s shows ppl thought it was borderline good... The problem is that the MCU has been winning for so many years, ppl are hungry to see some chink in the armor... So they overreact whenever a movie isn't in the 80s or 90s... If Eternals turns out to not be that great, it won't be the first nor the last MCU movie ppl felt wasn't as good as it could be... But the fact remains ppl rather see MCU movies over any other franchise because they're consistently good... If they weren't, they would have already fallen off by the 3rd or 4th installment like most other franchises... We are 30 movies + shows in at this point and ppl are still hungry for more
Same.. but I realised even as great as it’s gonna be to see Tobey and Andrew again - i think if they won’t be in it much - - and if they are I think it’ll be mostly fan service as opposed to great writing.. not Trynna be a downer - just realistic - - Marvel fans went crazy when WandaVision’s finale didn’t meet their expectations 🤷♂️
@@firstlast9846 I agree marvel is actually quite limited as a company when it comes to creativity, let's face it if we were to name off marvel tropes a good bit of them will probably be in the movie.
To answers Jeremy's question, you showing up on that planet is part of it's history and so is you not showing up. What's done is done. Also, if you don't go, someone eventually will
Marvel introduced a team of not-super-famous characters gradually over the course of several movies, culminating in The Avengers. The Eternals are more obscure than the members of the Avengers, and were all thrown at us in one movie with a convoluted storyline/mythos. Such a waste of talented, charismatic actors.
Reviews like these always has me curious as to how much the studio heads interfered and said, "No, stick to the formula." Was really hoping it was Chloe Zhao doing a Marvel movie not just a Marvel movie directed by Chloe Zhao.
The part where you explained about we moving to other planets after we wasted our planet's resourses, it reamind me of something. 🤔 Oh yeah. Man of Steel. General Zod and His fellow kryptonians invaded Earth to try to terraform it into a new Krypton, because Krypton itself exploded because they wasted thier planet's resourses. "If Krypton lives again, what happens to Earth?" "The foundation has to be build on something".
My "hot take" on the comics Eternals is that the Ancient Astronauts/Aliens sci-fantasy stuff is a fun premise for a visually inventive comic book or movie, but trying to stuff it into the Marvel universe and superhero motifs in general (e.g the ancient demigod superhumans all run around in lycra/pleather jumpsuits, have secret civilian identities etc.) isn't necessarily the best idea. I'm curious to see how the movie executes that - if it feels like a sci-fantasy movie that happens to take place in the MCU (like Thor: Ragnarok) or a different kind of concept stuffed into a Marvel superhero mould.
A lot of people seem to have more of a problem with critics and the media discourse of this film than the film itself. I was surprised how little people liked it because I don’t follow these things. I just go to the cinema to have a good time
It’s interesting because Chloe Zhao actually got advice from Denis Villanueve (?) with his cinematography techniques on Dune. Tracks that The Eternals could be the one movie you’d love if you love Dune.
It is sad you are only watching Marvel movies. Step back and look how many great movies were made years ago or this year. Have you seen CODA for example?
Regarding the; "Should we move to another planet and potentially interfere with it's natural evolution" thought experiment, you could get around that by constructing artificial space habitats and asteroid colonies for your species to live in.
@@Magneticitist Lol. Who's to say a planet has a soon-to-be civilization anyways? Maybe it'll stay a bareen rock until we terraform and populate it ourselves. Guess we'd have to check first.
@@RacingSnails64 What I find most interesting about that convo is the realization we're never leaving this planet. Not while preserving what we think is some kind of respect for life. It's just not going to happen at a rate of billions of people producing babies and wanting pats on the back for it. Realistically a drastic paradigm shift will be needed in human society which will in turn allow human evolution. You know, transhumanism and all that. Turning is into super humans. Now, a few hundred thousand super humans can def leave this planet in a new world before our time runs out. What happens to the other billions though? They are shit out of luck. Ironic then trying to consider the future of life forms on other worlds not even formed into being yet.
Its* natural evolution. I don't know why people have such a hard time with possessive pronouns. They don't use apostrophes. Theirs, his, hers, ours, yours, whose, ITS.
I think Old Guard did a better job with the 'group of immortals who've been around since the beginning' premise. This group would totally have some conspiracy theorist tracking them through the ancient civilizations. And this is the world of Thor. Thor knew these guys. They should have been recruited into the Avengers by now. I also felt like the head Deviant didn't add a whole lot after he killed Gilgamesh. Like, the antagonist role switched from deviants to Icaris and made the deviant's presence a little superfluous. If he'd switched sides and started fighting with the others against Icaris, that would have been way more interesting. And the conflict felt so unsatisfying. I mean, either way they're condemning at least a planet's worth of people, earth or potential earths. Finding a way that saved everyone would have been much more satisfying. The powers were cool though. I especially loved Phestis, even though I didn't completely understand. Sersi reminded me so much of FMA, it made my little Ed-loving heart happy.
I'm trying to think of an epic tale of superpowered heroes that doesn't feel like the MCU... Oh, here's a thought! You should watch and review the AVATAR THE LAST AIRBENDER TV series.
@@alastor1227 or maybe it's so people can know the opinion of a trusted critic so they can make an informed decision about whether to buy a ticket to see the movie. Just a thought...
This is literally the worst Marvel movie I've ever seen other than Thor Love and Thunder. It has terrible acting, writing, VFX, green screen, plotting, and pretty much everything I can possibly think of. It is actually terrible.
It’s not like the Vikings and the Babylonians for example had contact with one another. They both built their mythologies around what they saw. And the Norse mythology is pretty different from the earth understanding of it since they’re all basicslly aliens
All mythologies are a thing in the marvel universe, but the Eternals actually formed alliances with different gods to serve as their proxies on Earth to humanity. So some stories in mythology involved the actual god involved, while other stories involved an eternal acting on behalf of that god.
I just saw it and its way better than most critics are making it out to be. They balance all the characters really well and do a good of explaining their complex history with humanity. I like that it felt different than a normal MCU movie, but fit into the universe just fine 😊
I’ve seen a few Marvel movies but I wouldn’t say I’m a Marvel person, if that makes sense. I never read the comics, even when I was a kid, so I know basically zip about the lore of the characters going in to these movies. I thought “Eternals” was okay but just okay. One practical criticism I have of the film is that it’s shot so dark. Sometimes, I could hardly see what was going on. I turned up the brightness on my phone and it still wasn’t any better, so it wasn’t my device. I hate when movies make you squint at everything like that. I respect the opinion of the poster above who said this would have been better as a series. I agree. I got the sense of some of the Eternals’ characters and others of them were just there and really didn’t have any character development at all. I know the same amount about as I did at the start of the film - namely, bupkis. On a personal note, I don’t appreciate that the only family unit they showed had two men and I certainly don’t appreciate seeing two men kissing. There was just no need for that. Yes, we all know gay couples exist. But, unless you’re in certain parts of New York City or San Francisco, let’s not act like you can’t turn the corner with running into them. Statistically, they’re not that large a portion of the population, so they don’t need to be in every single modern movie. That’s not representation; that’s pushing an agenda. I know adults see these movies but a whole bunch of kids watch them, too. Let their parents teach them what they want to teach them about human interactions and don’t try to insert that kind of thing as normative in an action movie. I do give the movie credit for the fact that there were no real villains in this and no easy answers. I suppose you could say the lead Deviant was the villain but, really, he was just as much a victim of circumstances as the rest of them. I wouldn’t go so far as to say “there are good people on both sides” but I think both Sersi and Ikaris had valid perspectives. Either path would lead to the death of someone so someone else could live and survive. These are deep questions and they don’t have easy answers. I wish the director had had the characters sit with those questions a little longer in favor of more Deviant punching.
I love how people are walking away with two different experiences with this film. Some are saying it’s the worst, others like me, the best (of Phase 4 specifically). But that’s not what gets me the most, It’s the people who go:”Oh this is so marvel formula” but also people who go “this isn’t marvel formula” I personally don’t get what the hell the marvel formula is that doesn’t just apply to any other movie with a protagonist and an antagonist, But…. Idk, i don’t understand this movie. I don’t even understand how It can be polarizing, in a world where we accepted Venom 1 and Venom 2 as a thing and gave that franchise money. I just don’t get it
I just finished the movie…my thoughts in a nutshell is this. The story beats are good, the characters on paper are good, the deep lore sounds interesting…. BUT this movie was rushed and that was honestly the biggest weakness. In one movie Marvel tried to - Introduce several characters that are meant to effect all of history - Introduce celestials, beings much older than even the stones - tries to be emotional despite how little we knew about the characters I honestly think this would’ve been great if it was split in two, part one being an intro to the celestials, how they’ve effected history, and having the main conflict being fighting deviants; and the second part being all the deaths, the emotion and the current story that was told (minus all the excess flashbacks, cause they’d be part of the first movie). This way we could’ve built actual attachment to the characters; for the more emotional and philosophical story the externals was trying to tell.
2 parts?? Hell no its not end game of whatever.. It was just really bad. Marvel need to stop with the to many happy scenes and all the “jokes”. What a terrible movie
I haven't seen the movie yet or anything so maybe they changed it up a bit but from what I know they are not older than the infinity stones. The stones are from before the big bang and initial creation of the universe which formed them into crystals, they are like primordial forces of the universe prior. The celestials came along way after them and are only responsible for being the first form of existence in the universe so to say they are older than the stones is to say they are older than the big bang. Technically Galactus is older than them also because he comes from the universe before this one(this universe was born from one before it)
@@Mazerunner95 so u just saying make Marvel to feel like DC? The jokes makes the marvel movies good. As an honest question do you think Marvel would do better if it had the tone of the batman movie?
The emotional tone is off in the first act until the Indian character arrives on screen. Before then I really could not stand Salma Hayek’s preachiness about loving humankind.
Eternals told us the entire mcu was a lie Thanos knows about the emergence since he’s half a deviant himself, right?Maybe wiping half of the universe is actually his way of stopping the emergenceWHICH MAKES HIM THE GOOD GUY
The entire movie is huge plot hole. So Celestials need to seed intelligent life to birth their kind but stood by somehow as Thanos wiped out half of life, then came back to completely wipe out the other half and all of existence?
@@KhanMann66 If that's so and he can't be honest about a movie he is reviewing then you can't really trust what he's saying can you? That's the problem with early access passes. You're basically the studios bitch and have no real choice but to give a good review and that kind of defeats the whole point of doing that damn thing in the first place.
Is it just me, or did dc with its 2 movies do more impact than the mcu with its 3 movies and 4 shows so far this year? (Not including no way home of course cause that will be awesome)
Meh. At this point, people are just trying to find the problems more then just have fun because people just cant deal with the concept of a franchise dominating for more then 10 years straight lol People tend to rebel against all compassing "things". Personally Im all in for the ride till the end ^^
@@claudegrenier3180 yeah, ok I’m trying to find issues with my favorite franchise of all time, assume what you want pall, but that’s not the case at all, I was saying I like quality over quantity, not that I hated the mcu
We reached a point where we no longer have the superhero genre, it already became the "MCU genre". And this can be good (given the big track record of good movies that they output), but it can also be bad because all MCU movies look the same and even though they are mostly good, it's getting tiresome to see the same thing over and over again...
I mean mostly all epics are subjected to “the hero’s journey” plot. Theres no real way to change the formula. Name a superhero movie that doesn’t do this. You see it as an MCU genre only bc they’re dominating their genre, not bc they’re following some exclusive formula. People get tired of things that are overly saturated and that’s perfectly fine. If it were DC churning out this many films, you’d say it’s the “DC genre”. Hell even Nolan gains more hate w each film by people who want to seem intellectual that you can tell not even a TDK universe would survive after long
I just wonder how MCU's cgi is getting worse all the time. Even Iron Man 1 still looks better than Black Panther, Civil War, Black Widow, Shang-Chi etc. Maybe a bit too much content this year so budget isn't big enough for 3-4 movies and 5 series? 2 MCU movies a year felt a bit much already when you're like me and also watched FOX' X-Men stuff and DC movies not to mention Netflix shows and those god awful CWTV DC properties I used to watch.
The last four MCU movies have been mediocre or bad, and a lot of people forget how shit the early MCU truly was. Half of the MCU is boring unwatchable garbage and always was.
Thats not true at all. Dc still makes movies/TV shows there are still movies/TV shows being made from indi comics as well. Just beacuse the mcu takes up a huge portion of the movies dosent mean that they are the only ones
@@richardmartinez5040 Yes, it's possible to change the formula. There are countless examples of superhero movies that don't follow the MCU genre and they did quite well: Nolan's Batman movies, Chronicle and Deadpool are just the most popular examples. MCU movies are looking the same because Marvel is playing safe with a formula that it's proven to work instead of trying something new.
I believe this will hands down be the most visually stunning film in the MCU. With Chloe Zhao’s signature nature shots in mind, and knowing that they shot largely on location.
personally i thought there was too much focus on romance. i didn’t need multiple long ass scenes telling me that the main FL had a romance with the main(?) ML. and that rush at the end broke everything the ML built for himself as a character.
Of course I thought of Superman and Flash, but I did not even Consider Loki! Since Loki learned from his mom, it would be awesome to find out Frida learned from Sprite! I LOVE this movie! The slow parts really speak to the ending and add to the story. Nothing is there just as filler.
Jeremy's anti colonization rant of (UNINHABITED planets) was so bad it makes me question not just this review, but his ability to form logical conclusions at all.
I think the idea is that if we find a planet that can sustain human life, at some point it will probably develop parallel to earths development, so are we stunting or halting that if we come and inhabit that planet.
I just wanna know how it expands the MCU lore and/or multiverse threads. If it’s important to watch on those grounds for other movies, or disposable like Captain Marvel.
If they keep close to the comics the eternals are tied to the celestials. Celestials are tied to the bigger cosmic ideas in the comics. Can’t speak to where they will go, but by including the celestials into this movie it opens the door for things like silver surfer, galactus, and other cosmic concepts in the comics. This movie will for sure feel slightly disconnected from the rest of the marvel, but in future as marvel dives deeper into fantastic four (upcoming), and the multiverse I think this movie will provide context.
@@parkerwhite7259 Are the celestials and cosmic characters/ideas connected to the multiverse ideas? Cause Guardians had some cosmic stuff with none of it connected to that, and I've never seen Galactus/Surfer connected to it.
I hope this is the start of people realizing the MCU formula and as a whole is starting to go stale, which is how I've felt since Infinity War. Lord knows I'll be the first in line to see No Way Home, GOTGvol3, Thor 4, Dr. Strange 2, but this whole thing needs more than that to elevate itself. I mean does it baffle anyone else's mind that the Blade reboot will not be rated R? This was all a cool concept in 2008-2012, now its wearing thin with a lack of risks/creativity.
He also captain marvel is the most powerful hero in the mcu. Then he started saying it’s Wanda and then the externals. He’s just creating hype for each installment is all
The MCU is stagnating in places for me. Black widow would genuinely have been good if it dropped the comicbook-ness. Shang chi was awesome for the first two acts then the third was far too CGI, boss battle. These movies are based of comics I get it, and they need to appeal to kids, but I really want an MCU movie that's more of a movie than comic book movie.
The irony there is that the comics tend to be more mature in the handling of their characters and stories compared to the MCU. Like the Shang-Chi comics don’t even have big fights with monsters like the movie did, they’re basically “James Bond meets Bruce Lee” kind of stories that focus more on grounded and realistic fights. So if anything, the issue is that they’re not enough like the comics that they’re based on.
@@ldiod4374 Fair point man. I think it's the age thing aswell. I'm 24 now when the MCU started I was 11. Movies don't slap the same way. Except Spiderman tho 😂
I've watched all of the trailers, and I don't know what ETERNALS is about either. Also, you still haven't done a review of *Transformers: War for Cybertron: Chapter 3: KINGDOM*
well going off the trailers it looks like Robb stark from game of thrones discovering he used to be a god or super hero and now he has to relearn how to fight to protect the earth while teaming up with a bunch of other gods . but the impression ironically his character isn't mentioned at all in this review.
Makkari is easily the best speedster I’ve ever seen in a movie or tv show, the slow mo scenes are overdone now so seeing someone run in real time and having big impact with their hits was so good to see, it’s a shame she’s probably the character we are the least likely to get more of. The deviant plot was a bit shit though, guy didn’t even have a name and wanted the same thing as the eternals in the end but Angelina Jolie ended the plot in about 2 seconds
Which struck me as kinda weird because he could heal himself before he morphed into final form. So y didn’t he just heal himself after being diced by Athena??
This movie is simultaneously hurt by being too much like an MCU movie and not enough like an MCU movie.
They are missing the heart and soul of Stan Lee since his passing. Just how I feel.
@@namsivad yeah marvel lost its mojo after infinity war
@@buttertoast1146 shangchi was good tho
@@PatrickGigachad final battle was eh
@@buttertoast1146 Nah, WandaVision was easily the best thing Marvel has ever done. Marvel had plenty of mediocre movies before Infinity War.
“The actors don’t sell movies”
The studios:”let’s make Chris Pratt mario”
The sell isn't Chris Pratt (although maybe that was the intention). The sell is that almost every single actor picked for that movie seems out of left field.
Mario > Chris Pratt proved
Thats true actually I still look for Chris bale , Benedict Cumberbatch, Chris Hemsworth ,hela actress ,Denzel Washington, jake Gyllenhaal and many other actors movies
Relevant actors sell movies , arnold and stallone are not relevant anymore
He's so cool
Funny you felt the dc similarities….cause Jack Kirby created both the Eternals AND the New Gods from DC. As it stands, it appears that the New Gods are more popular amongst comic book readers (partly because there are more comics about them).
Plus I do think it strongly helps, at least speaking as a kid of the 90s/2000s, the Bruce Timm DC universe clearly explains and sets up who they are and why Darkseid is their enemy. It wasn’t Superman defeats Darkseid and the New Gods come out of nowhere.
@Hate Myself Thank you for that break down art critic for the Guardian....lol
@UC4HPLsMg25FAQYojUwoL2Sg 😆 😆 👏🏿 that's exactly what im hearing BORING AS Fluck!!
@Hate Myself your funny dude. Lol. I'm scared to watch it. The trailers look boring for god sake. And im a massive comic book fan.
New gods are also more popular because the new gods are actually good and interesting unlike the eternals
I can't believe the badass husband from Train To Busan is now a Marvel god 😂
Not for too long, sadly.
Shit, THAT'S where I've seen him before!
HAHAHAHA yea he's Ma Dong Seok btw.
@@braderbrayan7412 I know that, in America he goes by the name of Don Lee
My friends called him korean captain america in that one scene in busan 🤣
"Me and my friends like to talk about thought experiments" - Yeah Jeremy I get high too
My last Thought Experiment got me banned
"Are you still a Grandchild if your Grandparents die"
"Are you still a Sibling if your Siblings die"
I'm morbid AF
You do realize you can think about things of that nature WITHOUT drugs, right?
That was my exact thought lol
@@palladiamorsdeus yeah, but usually better with drugs lol particularly psychedelics lol.
@@palladiamorsdeus the comment was clearly a joke
But yeah thought experiments can be fun to discuss with friends in general conversations
I swear every comment I see says “I must be one of the few who loved it” haha.. I honestly feel like I’m in the few who agrees with the critics.
The concepts were interesting, but the pacing was a total mess. Every other scene they seemed to add some new random subplot, and none of the payoffs felt like they had any weight since there was hardly any build.
Spoiler:
One example, what even was the point of the lead deviant? He gained a higher intelligence, had the ability to absorb the eternals powers, then just died. We already knew the celestials were ruthless, so he didn’t really add anything. There was already too much going on with so many characters, it would’ve been better to just not include it.
im surprised so many people in these comments are in love with the movie. i thought it sucked. so far only thing worth a damn in phase 4 has been wanda vision, loki, shang chi, no way home, hawkeye kind of and thats about it i think. id say dr strange movie will be unreal
Yes he did, even when the strongest eternal in the scene where he killed ajak by throwing her to the deviants, she even asked “why not just kill the deviants“ they were a distraction the whole time cause he knew the eternals would try to stop the celestials from blowing up the planet
These comments are paid. We all know this movie sucked
This needed to be a tv series. Amazing Characters, great concepts, a twist that I legitimately didn't see coming... But some of the WORST pacing I've seen in a movie. Really shitty execution all around tbh. Also remember how Kingo just leaves for the climax, essentially betraying everyone, then comes back in the epilogue like everything is good? Fuck that guy
rule number 1 in EVERY movie with Angelina Jolie: she CANNOT be hurt or have any flaws, AJ's characters MIUST be Mary Sues. They tried to make her vulnerable and she even lost a fight to a guy--which is a NONO!! So to make up for it she gest to kill the baddie for reasons. End of story
They succeeded in making celestials feel big and scary , like I truly felt the immensity of their being. They could have wrapped all this up in a snap of a finger and not thought about it. I fear their return. They more powerful then anything we saw in the marvel universe
Ultron with the stones l _ l
Batman can beat him up
Uncle
Ironman with prep time
Can definitely
Kill
Lucifer morningstar
@@uncle5486 hi zealot
Couldn't agree more. I saw Arishem and was like, WOAH, another possible big-bad to throw into the mix of possible big-bads. So far Phase 4 is very much a Phase 1 Redux, in that everything so far is really just trying redefine the MCU as we've come to know it, which in-and-of-itself is not a bad thing, but I just wish that Marvel Studios would maybe swing for the fences a little more. Who know, maybe once Phase 4 is done, and Phase 5 starts, they'll be able to go even further with some of these interesting ideas, instead of falling back on formula too much.
Karun and Kingo were carrying the whole movie and then they literally said "I do not want to participate in the final battle" and left.
It has to do with the mythological character Kingo is based on, kingu who is like a general / right hand man to tiamut, and in mythology kingu flees during the battle in which tiamut dies. All of their names are inspired by mythological figures and those figures stories greatly shape the plot and the character decisions of the movie.
Druig and Makkari are my two favorites. I want a nice spin off of those two going through the thousands of years together and apart.
then bring the money
Word. I was surprised by how much I liked Druig by the end. Plus, showing him fight expertly with that shotgun was dope. I like that he can still do some damage and play other roles without mind-control.
I liked their subtle relationship.
“Actors don’t sell movies”
Spider-Man No Way Home: *laughs in Spider-Verse*
Most of the hype for that movie comes from Tobey Spiderman and Sam Raimi characters, nobody gives a fuck about Holland.
@@bladewolflq-84i86 that’s not true. I’m personally a big Holland fan. Also the Raimi characters are still a big deal because of those actors returning to play the character.
@@gamer3ed484 is true though, Homecoming or FFH trailers didnt broke any records and were forgettable SM movies, yet NWO trailer comes out with Molina Ock and Dafoe Goblin and the thing broke even Endgame records.
If the next trailer shows Tobey with the suit again, bet your ass is gonna be the most hyped trailer in a CBM in the whole history.
@@bladewolflq-84i86 absolutely untrue.
@@KJ_1810 you just wait, the moment Tobey shows in the next trailer TH-cam is gonna explode.
He is gonna brake records
"The Loki" sounds like an old swing dance that was done in the 50s.
wut ?
Or staying in the shadows.
Swing died off in the 50s and got replaced by rock and roll. So more like the 40s
@@austinhernandez2716 Read the comment like a fast talkin radio announcer:
Come on we’ll go down to the big band hall and dance the loki after which have dinner of steak, champagne, potatoes, salad, a sundae and still have enough money left to skidoo our way home by trolley because it’s the 40’s and the war is over!
Low key loki does
I've seen a lot of people torn on this movie, here's my thoughts: it wasn't bad, lots of cool concepts, but this does NOT have that much re-watchability
So a meh movie
I would happily never watch it again.
I just got out from a theater and it's bleh movie i'd rather watch Shang chi again heck i'd rather watch No Time To Die two times rather than watch Eternals
the movie is shithouse
The writing was poor. Yes some of the concepts were cool but none of them were given the depth they needed. Also, the dialogue was terrible and there were some interesting subplots that were also super shallow and not given enough time despite the movie feeling like it went on five-ever
just saw it today on disney plus, and i had heard some not so great things about it and even heard it was the MCUs first flop, but i actually enjoyed it for what it was. it did feel very much like a justice league movie, despite the very similar characters, it had a more mature tone, and even does the whole gods wanting to be human thing too. the characters feel very human, except for the superman guy. i think things would of worked better if eternals was a series instead of a movie, i would of liked these characters fleshed out more. the whole deviant antagonist was kinda wasted, it was interesting that it kept evolving, but then wonder woman just kills it in the very end and thats the end of that story. i would have loved to see that story fleshed out more. overall 7/10 for me.
Hanging out with Jeremy irl
Expectations : Fun movie chat
Reality : What is life?
Jeremy is a smart guy... that's a flaw in the current day.
Which is still fun
4:57 Jeremy starts making me sad about The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
first thing I thought of too
"as flawed and human as... Inhumans"
Ha I see what you did there.
Glad you are capable of understanding the most basic of puns.
They wasted in humans
Lol
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Biggest burn you could give an mcu movie
"Dc did it better"
Better with the mustache CGI tho? 😂 Lol jk, DC have done movies with great visual effects too especially with The Dark Knight Trilogy which probably had a better CGI than this movie I guess
@@K0m30ng Aquaman alone solo's the entire MCU when it comes to CGI, dont get me wrong MCU has a respectable number of visually impressive movies, but Aquaman is just on an another level.
How better?...nothing to compare it with???....new gods?....is a no show...
DC did superheroine movie and Captain Marvel movie better than MCU.
@@K0m30ng That CG mustache and Ugly Steppenwolf thing is outdone by Snyder Cut. Thank God Zack Snyder's Justice League happened and that movie is awesome and canon for me idc about Josshit league anymore
“Immortals” oh man, now I want to see Highlander, sorry distractions
Hahaha damn, me too
What?
@@sprypinegames5390 love that Queen soundtrack
Now that is a great movie.
@@Razer5542 sean connery's spanish accent, lol. But I joke, I love that film flaws and all. Soundtrack has this Aladdin style art that's in the music video.
Well we got Jeremy talking philosophy out of this, that’s cool haha.
Sounds like it’s caught between two worlds and people either wanted more of the other or they just haven’t got the blend right/the blend doesn’t mix
@Anoneemus Noename: nobody cares what you think guy Lol 😂
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Dude we're going to get the DUNE sequel in 2023. It's happening man 🎉🎊
Are you saying their biggest conflict was deciding whether or not they should alter the evolution of a species/civilization, and that's why they haven't been active?
What he’s saying is….this isn’t the avengers, and these guys suck in comparison.
They should just Made them asleep for millenias and then woken up when Thanos flick his infinity Gauntlet
Sounds more like a Doctor Who plot than a "high concept" movie from Marvel until they decided to make it Marvel movie.
no. thats just a theme of it but during final act, its just gonna be basic mcu final cgi fight
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I actually really enjoyed it, more than other more recent marvel movies. I found that the fighting scenes felt intentional, I think a lot of times the MCU will just throw in fights because there hasn’t been one in 20 mins. But there wasn’t a lot of fighting in this movie. And it was cool seeing powers that we haven’t seen in the MCU before. I personally really enjoyed it i thought it still had it’s MCU stuff but was different enough.
What I understand so far about The Eternals is that there the equivalent to DCs Gods of New Genesis and Apokolips. They’re just OP super-powered aliens.
Funny you should say that, because Jack Kirby created the New Gods for DC and then went to Marvel and basically re-did them under the name Eternals.
They took nothing from the comic books so it might as well be something totally different
@@INRamos13 I hear Kirby wanted to do New Gods for Marvel and got turned down and then just went back to his idea when he went to DC.
Because the same author created both, Jack Kirby, and in a meta way both the eternals and the new gods kind of complement each other since Kirby somewhat continued one story in the other.
OP super-powered diverse aliens.
I think that was the most cohesive spoiler free review I’ve ever seen. Nicely done Mr. Jahns.
Honestly, I'll just watch Dune again, but in IMAX
If you are able to, watch it in Dolby it's is so crisp on screen and the weight of ships sounds really immerse you in the movie.
Watch Dune as much as possible so it has good numbers so the sequel gets made
sorry to say dune is the most boring movie i ever watched..i literally slept in theatre 3-4 times.
@@satishchaudhary7301 Why would you pay to sleep in the theater? You must of been tired! Yeah you gotta interested in it to want to watch it. Did you watch a trailer before?
@@satishchaudhary7301 if you’re judging a character driven space opera on action movie standards you’re setting yourself up for disappointment. Nobody goes to watch bridesmaids expecting transformers then gets mad that there aren’t robot fights. Know what movie you’re going into, it helps with expectations. Dune was never supposed to be an action packed thrill ride.
Richard madden needs to come back😢 he's too fly no pun intended lol like seriously I loved ikaris
Thor: Ragnarok was MCU in a different gear, but not far from the baseline. Just saying.
That movie was fun, that's what it did right. It might have been the funnest marvel movie.
@@ryanp5826 " It might have been the funnest marvel movie"
Unfortunately, that's also what's wrong.
@@MyZ001 "might" don't be so negative
@@MyZ001 true!
I honestly thought that movie was gonna be some serious Thor shit. quite unfortunate...
Twas fun tho yh
I feel like The Rock and Ryan Reynolds totally sell tickets tho
I don't get the Dwayne Johnson side of things. Haven't seen a single good movie from him, unlike Reynolds who can be very entertaining, even in that Pikachu movie and I freaking hate Pokémon.
@@JoakimOtamaa as far as the quality of the movies to each their own but he's just very beloved overall as a person so people want to see everything he does,kinda like with Keanu Reeves too
@@gustavoclarindo101 Yeah he seems like a great dude, I just don't like any of his movies. And he's not a bad actor.
@@JoakimOtamaa well i like quite a few of his movies,most are very silly and i think if that's what you're looking for it will probably work for you (very excited for Black Adam,hope that's a non silly one)
@@gustavoclarindo101 Yeah I liked some like The Mummy Returns, Scorpion King and that jungle one (Rundown? Not Jumanji) when I was a kid and watched WWE every Friday night. Jumanji was just okay imo. No reason to rewatch it for me.
When Game of Thrones was it's heights, the epic fight scenes or sex and violance don't grab my attention. I was more interested upon seeing the delivery of those great lines from the books by people in dark rooms about the human condition. I know this sounds ridicoules, but wanted from the Eternals to adapt the source material as weird science fiction way like how House of X and reimagined Marvel's mutants.
Just about your rant on human colonization of other worlds, there is a pretty low chance of humans actually reaching a habitable planet outside our system that isn’t 10s of light years away, and we would mostly be terraforming planets like Mars with minimal if any life that would be almost impossible to have it go to be a true civilization.
I love how deep and detailed this review got! Thanks a lot for going into it futher whilst still keeping it vague. It seems this turned out just how I expected it would though 😔.
Just saw this movie and I actually like it a lot. I mean it’s nothing spectacular but not near as bad as critics say it is. Really like most of the characters actually having their own personalities besides the main character, she was a bit one dimensional. Sprite or however her name is spelled was a great character. For the most part I like how the lore of eternals and celestials were portrayed in the movie.
can you explain why you liked sprite? I didn't think she was likable nor important
@@raziphaz2219 I liked her character in the sense that she has a bit more depth about her compared to sersi and icarus. She’s stuck in a kids body and hates that and wants to be able to grow into an adult form. That and her Being jealous of sersi because she likes icarus. And I think the actress did a good job lol.
“It’s not the actor who sells the ticket anymore, it’s the characters.”
Tell that to all the people upset that Zendaya isn’t in enough of Dune 😂
People like Zendaya?
@@theroebuck123456789 are you living under a rock?
I'd say she's in the movie too much.
@@samzilla567 i would agree😂 she not great
The wierd squinting girl? Don't think people are hyped over her.
I feel that whatever this movie is trying to say, Watchmen said it better.
Loved that movie and hated it at the same time. I loved everything about it, but it just felt that little something was missing. Dr Manhattan is just great and Billy Crudup don’t get enough love. That guy is a legend
Watchmen movie ain't even good lol
So you dont know what the movie was trying to say, but you do know watchmen said it better? That makes sense🙄
Watchmen as in the director's cut atleast. Not the theatrical cut
@@valeria262 The Watchmen is about men, life , humanity.
Sometimes the good are bad
Sometimes evil does win.
In order to make a great future , someone has to get their hands dirty. Prime example is Police Officers. Love them or hate them, they face finding a child not breathing or having to shoot someone on a daily basis.
Not every man or woman can sleep at night doing that. But that person may have just saved a lady from a deadly assault.
Not all heroes wear capes.
THE WATCHMEN
Jahns seems to be trying hard to find the positive side of this film, something that can keep him excited for the MCU.
He's trying to keep that early screening pass lol
This movie sounds like a flop but there's still plenty to be excited about in the mcu. We have Spiderman coming and shang chi was really good
@@twizms7362 Shang chi was really bad
@@twizms7362 Meh could care less about another Spider_man movie. This still sounds fun though.
@@Red-zh7vq it got rave reviews
Sadly the same for me
Dune was a star studded cast and I referred to them as "oh that's thanos, that's drax, that's polka dot man" etc.
And aquaman
Really? You need to watch more movies
Dune was so good to me.
That’s disrespectful to Dune and its characters . You should pay much more attention
@@kurkindal1234 yeah , was good to almost everyone I’ve seen
At this point the MCU is just mass produced repetitive generic action movies that are politically sterile and don't push any boundaries.... Basically just cinematic "meh" on repeat
They tried to take a risk with this movie since it’s different and unique
Yeah even as a huge Marvel fan, I’ve been disappointed by the mediocrity they’ve been producing for the last 2 years. That’s bc endgame signaled the end of the story but it’s Disney so…
@@akkibajaj705 Pfft yeah right.
@Onion Dark Knight that’s far from true
yeah i think they can get one more saga done before ppl start really losing interest. superhero fatigue is inevitable, espescially marvel fatigue. it's just a question of when.
The most boring movie in the MCU in the last 15 years. I thought The Legend of the 10 Rings will be boring, but I've enjoyed that movie way more than the Eternals.
I feel like movie reviewers aren't allowed to say an MCU movie is bad. Like bro most of what you said pointed to this movie being not good but you land on an ign 7.
Or maybe most actually liked it... There's always that...
@@cruzanassassin read Scott Menzel post on twitter
@@HalJordan661 just did... I don't see the issue... It seems like the movie is borderline good... How is that a strange thing? Any RT score in the 60s and 70s shows ppl thought it was borderline good... The problem is that the MCU has been winning for so many years, ppl are hungry to see some chink in the armor... So they overreact whenever a movie isn't in the 80s or 90s... If Eternals turns out to not be that great, it won't be the first nor the last MCU movie ppl felt wasn't as good as it could be... But the fact remains ppl rather see MCU movies over any other franchise because they're consistently good... If they weren't, they would have already fallen off by the 3rd or 4th installment like most other franchises... We are 30 movies + shows in at this point and ppl are still hungry for more
He clearly wants to wreck this film but wants his early access pass to stay valid. So do hard dissing.
@@KhanMann66 I've seen many ppl not like MCU stuff and still get early access... This conspiracy theory is washed
Jeremy and his friends should make a podcast about all their deep talks I would pay good money for that
he allready talks too much lol
Why?
We need more jeremy in oir life
like what deep talks? I can make one you give me your money?
5:45 That’s why at the end of “2010: The Year We Made Contact”, the Monolith told the humans to stay away from Jupiters moon.
Is that a movie?
@@arifulakash6239 yeah
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I don’t really care about Eternals
All I want is No Way Home!!!
According to rotten tomatoes you're not alone.
Bring on the spider-men! Toby maguire and Andrew garfield is where its at
Same
Same.. but I realised even as great as it’s gonna be to see Tobey and Andrew again - i think if they won’t be in it much - - and if they are I think it’ll be mostly fan service as opposed to great writing.. not Trynna be a downer - just realistic - - Marvel fans went crazy when WandaVision’s finale didn’t meet their expectations 🤷♂️
@@firstlast9846 I agree marvel is actually quite limited as a company when it comes to creativity, let's face it if we were to name off marvel tropes a good bit of them will probably be in the movie.
I consider mcu movies after endgame as a bonus. But I don't think I will be connected to it.
Marvel ends at Infinity War, we're better off if we leave it at "Thanos Won".
@@budthecyborg4575 but,why do u like such a tragic ending for such an epic franchise??
@@budthecyborg4575 no. Endgame.
MCU definitely peaked with the Infinity Saga. The Multiverse is doing well so far, but it won't have that same connection.
Same they aren't has essential of a watch now except for the new spiderman film imo
Hey Jeremy, if you enjoy movies that tackle the concept of immortality I’d highly recommend the independent movie “The Man From Earth”.
that movie was so good even tho it has aged terribly look wise
Beatiful film.
Don't watch the shit sequel, it craps all over the original movie and completely ruins its essence
I'm longing for dialog-heavy thought-provoking movie like that one. It was just sooo good.
best cheap movie ever
Squid Game was all Koreans but the story was awesome. Diversity doesn't mean good.
Ali was from Pakistan.
An all Korean cast is not diversity. A lot of nationalities and sexualities is diversity .
How is squid games diverse? It literally an all Korean cast.
To answers Jeremy's question, you showing up on that planet is part of it's history and so is you not showing up. What's done is done. Also, if you don't go, someone eventually will
This the most on point I’ve seen Jeremy in a LONG time!
"Could've been a masterpiece" You mean like DUNE, which was an actual masterpiece.
If WB green lights the sequel, the wait is going to maddening.
Honestly if the sequel never comes out, Dune is terrible and would only really be worth it to see it once for the visuals and sounds
@@yooooo8600 Vishuls gooood. Sound gooood. Story baaad.
@@losely451 controversial take; i hate denis villeneuve's colour, cinematography and concept work.
Meh…
Marvel introduced a team of not-super-famous characters gradually over the course of several movies, culminating in The Avengers. The Eternals are more obscure than the members of the Avengers, and were all thrown at us in one movie with a convoluted storyline/mythos. Such a waste of talented, charismatic actors.
Reviews like these always has me curious as to how much the studio heads interfered and said, "No, stick to the formula."
Was really hoping it was Chloe Zhao doing a Marvel movie not just a Marvel movie directed by Chloe Zhao.
I don't see why the hate? This movie was great and it has deep lore.
"Humanity at their worst is not all that humanity has to offer." I needed to hear that today. Thank you!
I mean, I had a human offer me ice cream the other day. I'm not even a child and he wasn't even a predator.
I would have loved to have seen Jeremy’s reaction when Dune Part Two was announced today.
I can imagine he passed out. I did.
Hopefully he'll make a video on that
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The part where you explained about we moving to other planets after we wasted our planet's resourses, it reamind me of something. 🤔
Oh yeah. Man of Steel.
General Zod and His fellow kryptonians invaded Earth to try to terraform it into a new Krypton, because Krypton itself exploded because they wasted thier planet's resourses.
"If Krypton lives again, what happens to Earth?"
"The foundation has to be build on something".
My "hot take" on the comics Eternals is that the Ancient Astronauts/Aliens sci-fantasy stuff is a fun premise for a visually inventive comic book or movie, but trying to stuff it into the Marvel universe and superhero motifs in general (e.g the ancient demigod superhumans all run around in lycra/pleather jumpsuits, have secret civilian identities etc.) isn't necessarily the best idea. I'm curious to see how the movie executes that - if it feels like a sci-fantasy movie that happens to take place in the MCU (like Thor: Ragnarok) or a different kind of concept stuffed into a Marvel superhero mould.
A lot of people seem to have more of a problem with critics and the media discourse of this film than the film itself. I was surprised how little people liked it because I don’t follow these things. I just go to the cinema to have a good time
Honestly, Dune was so refreshing to watch that I can't bring myself to watch Eternals. I'm kind of sick of marvel movies.
Same here but without the Dune nonsense
It’s interesting because Chloe Zhao actually got advice from Denis Villanueve (?) with his cinematography techniques on Dune.
Tracks that The Eternals could be the one movie you’d love if you love Dune.
Dune wasn't that good, tbh
Dune All Day 👏🏾
It is sad you are only watching Marvel movies. Step back and look how many great movies were made years ago or this year. Have you seen CODA for example?
Regarding the; "Should we move to another planet and potentially interfere with it's natural evolution" thought experiment, you could get around that by constructing artificial space habitats and asteroid colonies for your species to live in.
Do you avoid cleaning your kitchen counter just so bacteria can possibly build future civilizations? We're straight up swiping those space rocks.
I like the courtesy of going artificial but I wonder how sustainable the Wall-E route is
@@Magneticitist Lol. Who's to say a planet has a soon-to-be civilization anyways? Maybe it'll stay a bareen rock until we terraform and populate it ourselves. Guess we'd have to check first.
@@RacingSnails64 What I find most interesting about that convo is the realization we're never leaving this planet. Not while preserving what we think is some kind of respect for life. It's just not going to happen at a rate of billions of people producing babies and wanting pats on the back for it.
Realistically a drastic paradigm shift will be needed in human society which will in turn allow human evolution. You know, transhumanism and all that. Turning is into super humans. Now, a few hundred thousand super humans can def leave this planet in a new world before our time runs out. What happens to the other billions though? They are shit out of luck. Ironic then trying to consider the future of life forms on other worlds not even formed into being yet.
Its* natural evolution. I don't know why people have such a hard time with possessive pronouns. They don't use apostrophes. Theirs, his, hers, ours, yours, whose, ITS.
I think Old Guard did a better job with the 'group of immortals who've been around since the beginning' premise. This group would totally have some conspiracy theorist tracking them through the ancient civilizations. And this is the world of Thor. Thor knew these guys. They should have been recruited into the Avengers by now.
I also felt like the head Deviant didn't add a whole lot after he killed Gilgamesh. Like, the antagonist role switched from deviants to Icaris and made the deviant's presence a little superfluous. If he'd switched sides and started fighting with the others against Icaris, that would have been way more interesting.
And the conflict felt so unsatisfying. I mean, either way they're condemning at least a planet's worth of people, earth or potential earths. Finding a way that saved everyone would have been much more satisfying.
The powers were cool though. I especially loved Phestis, even though I didn't completely understand. Sersi reminded me so much of FMA, it made my little Ed-loving heart happy.
I'm trying to think of an epic tale of superpowered heroes that doesn't feel like the MCU...
Oh, here's a thought!
You should watch and review the
AVATAR THE LAST AIRBENDER
TV series.
Eh it was an okay TV show
@Anoneemus Noename no
I loved it, but more importantly, I think it has all the necessary elements for Jeremy to think it's Awesometacular. 😁
Best animation tv show!!
Last Air Bender was ok.
Actors do sell tickets. MCU sells itself. That said, my God, I'm over these movies.
Endgame is where MCU concluded for me
@@faraazkhan5078 I’ll wait for no way home to end the MCU in my life. Lol.
@@ricbon9581 dont forget guardians 3. The final movue with the guardians of the galaxy and of james gunn
So stop watching it lmao. "Man I'm so done with the MCU" why even pay attention to stuff about it? It's for attention
@@alastor1227 or maybe it's so people can know the opinion of a trusted critic so they can make an informed decision about whether to buy a ticket to see the movie. Just a thought...
This is literally the worst Marvel movie I've ever seen other than Thor Love and Thunder. It has terrible acting, writing, VFX, green screen, plotting, and pretty much everything I can possibly think of. It is actually terrible.
See? This is how the Mandela Effect works. Guarantee in the future people will say “i remember the movie called ‘The Eternals’”
I'm pretty sure it was going to be called that and then they removed the "The."
Many people crying over critics’ opinions and I don’t know why. Just judge the movie yourself.
That being said, this movie was disappointing
The Eternals inspired the different mythologies around the world… but the entire Norse mythology is actually a thing… how does that work?
Because Greek mythology actually exists too. Zeus is gonna be in Thor 4 courtesy of Russell Crowe.
It’s not like the Vikings and the Babylonians for example had contact with one another. They both built their mythologies around what they saw.
And the Norse mythology is pretty different from the earth understanding of it since they’re all basicslly aliens
It will be this until another retcon is needed for Marvel Hercules
Don't think about religion in comics. It'll melt your mind.
All mythologies are a thing in the marvel universe, but the Eternals actually formed alliances with different gods to serve as their proxies on Earth to humanity. So some stories in mythology involved the actual god involved, while other stories involved an eternal acting on behalf of that god.
Ths speedster beating the crap out of Icarus was 🔥 so good
I just saw it and its way better than most critics are making it out to be. They balance all the characters really well and do a good of explaining their complex history with humanity. I like that it felt different than a normal MCU movie, but fit into the universe just fine 😊
I’ve seen a few Marvel movies but I wouldn’t say I’m a Marvel person, if that makes sense. I never read the comics, even when I was a kid, so I know basically zip about the lore of the characters going in to these movies.
I thought “Eternals” was okay but just okay. One practical criticism I have of the film is that it’s shot so dark. Sometimes, I could hardly see what was going on. I turned up the brightness on my phone and it still wasn’t any better, so it wasn’t my device. I hate when movies make you squint at everything like that.
I respect the opinion of the poster above who said this would have been better as a series. I agree. I got the sense of some of the Eternals’ characters and others of them were just there and really didn’t have any character development at all. I know the same amount about as I did at the start of the film - namely, bupkis.
On a personal note, I don’t appreciate that the only family unit they showed had two men and I certainly don’t appreciate seeing two men kissing. There was just no need for that. Yes, we all know gay couples exist. But, unless you’re in certain parts of New York City or San Francisco, let’s not act like you can’t turn the corner with running into them. Statistically, they’re not that large a portion of the population, so they don’t need to be in every single modern movie. That’s not representation; that’s pushing an agenda. I know adults see these movies but a whole bunch of kids watch them, too. Let their parents teach them what they want to teach them about human interactions and don’t try to insert that kind of thing as normative in an action movie.
I do give the movie credit for the fact that there were no real villains in this and no easy answers. I suppose you could say the lead Deviant was the villain but, really, he was just as much a victim of circumstances as the rest of them.
I wouldn’t go so far as to say “there are good people on both sides” but I think both Sersi and Ikaris had valid perspectives. Either path would lead to the death of someone so someone else could live and survive. These are deep questions and they don’t have easy answers. I wish the director had had the characters sit with those questions a little longer in favor of more Deviant punching.
I love how people are walking away with two different experiences with this film. Some are saying it’s the worst, others like me, the best (of Phase 4 specifically).
But that’s not what gets me the most,
It’s the people who go:”Oh this is so marvel formula” but also people who go “this isn’t marvel formula”
I personally don’t get what the hell the marvel formula is that doesn’t just apply to any other movie with a protagonist and an antagonist,
But….
Idk, i don’t understand this movie. I don’t even understand how It can be polarizing, in a world where we accepted Venom 1 and Venom 2 as a thing and gave that franchise money. I just don’t get it
TBH these were the least spoiler-y story trailer of MCU history
@AJ Malaika - re: "TBH" = Do you always begin sentences with that meaningless To Be Honest?? Are you NOT honest ... All the time ?
"Actors don't sell tickets..."
Leo has entered the chat.
But leo doesnt take shit movie. Also the directors his involve with is what selling the movies. Leo and martin, leo and taratino etc...
@@mikepao5444 nah..
Who cares about Leo lol is this the 90s we have social media now we don’t need to go to cinema for an actor😂😂
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The was the first movie in my life where by the end I didn't remember any of their names
I just finished the movie…my thoughts in a nutshell is this.
The story beats are good, the characters on paper are good, the deep lore sounds interesting…. BUT this movie was rushed and that was honestly the biggest weakness.
In one movie Marvel tried to
- Introduce several characters that are meant to effect all of history
- Introduce celestials, beings much older than even the stones
- tries to be emotional despite how little we knew about the characters
I honestly think this would’ve been great if it was split in two, part one being an intro to the celestials, how they’ve effected history, and having the main conflict being fighting deviants;
and the second part being all the deaths, the emotion and the current story that was told (minus all the excess flashbacks, cause they’d be part of the first movie).
This way we could’ve built actual attachment to the characters; for the more emotional and philosophical story the externals was trying to tell.
2 parts?? Hell no its not end game of whatever.. It was just really bad. Marvel need to stop with the to many happy scenes and all the “jokes”. What a terrible movie
I haven't seen the movie yet or anything so maybe they changed it up a bit but from what I know they are not older than the infinity stones. The stones are from before the big bang and initial creation of the universe which formed them into crystals, they are like primordial forces of the universe prior. The celestials came along way after them and are only responsible for being the first form of existence in the universe so to say they are older than the stones is to say they are older than the big bang. Technically Galactus is older than them also because he comes from the universe before this one(this universe was born from one before it)
@@Mazerunner95 so u just saying make Marvel to feel like DC? The jokes makes the marvel movies good. As an honest question do you think Marvel would do better if it had the tone of the batman movie?
@@TheSmiles the jokes in guardians of the galaxy were good so in end game but in eternals is was just way to much “jokes”. Just a garbage movie..
The emotional tone is off in the first act until the Indian character arrives on screen. Before then I really could not stand Salma Hayek’s preachiness about loving humankind.
Eternals told us the entire mcu was a lie Thanos knows about the emergence since he’s half a deviant himself, right?Maybe wiping half of the universe is actually his way of stopping the emergenceWHICH MAKES HIM THE GOOD GUY
The entire movie is huge plot hole. So Celestials need to seed intelligent life to birth their kind but stood by somehow as Thanos wiped out half of life, then came back to completely wipe out the other half and all of existence?
I feel like you’re struggling to say something nice about this movie, and failing. Which tells me all I need. 😬
Dude wants his early access pass to stay valid.
@@KhanMann66 If that's so and he can't be honest about a movie he is reviewing then you can't really trust what he's saying can you?
That's the problem with early access passes. You're basically the studios bitch and have no real choice but to give a good review and that kind of defeats the whole point of doing that damn thing in the first place.
I feel like the movie would have been so much better is Sprite was the main antagonist. She was the only one that had strong motive to let earth die
Is it just me, or did dc with its 2 movies do more impact than the mcu with its 3 movies and 4 shows so far this year?
(Not including no way home of course cause that will be awesome)
Eh idk about that everyone was going crazy over Wanda vision and Loki when they were on. Especially week to week.
Meh. At this point, people are just trying to find the problems more then just have fun because people just cant deal with the concept of a franchise dominating for more then 10 years straight lol People tend to rebel against all compassing "things". Personally Im all in for the ride till the end ^^
@@claudegrenier3180 Or it's just not that good. ZL Justice League is the best comic book movie I've seen all year. By far!
@@claudegrenier3180 yeah, ok I’m trying to find issues with my favorite franchise of all time, assume what you want pall, but that’s not the case at all, I was saying I like quality over quantity, not that I hated the mcu
@@darkoale3299 lol I must disagree with that im afraid. ZS JL 🤮
Just seen it last night and I loved watching it, definitely felt different and I love the way they used their powers especially that speed scene😳🔥🔥🔥
We reached a point where we no longer have the superhero genre, it already became the "MCU genre". And this can be good (given the big track record of good movies that they output), but it can also be bad because all MCU movies look the same and even though they are mostly good, it's getting tiresome to see the same thing over and over again...
I mean mostly all epics are subjected to “the hero’s journey” plot. Theres no real way to change the formula. Name a superhero movie that doesn’t do this. You see it as an MCU genre only bc they’re dominating their genre, not bc they’re following some exclusive formula. People get tired of things that are overly saturated and that’s perfectly fine. If it were DC churning out this many films, you’d say it’s the “DC genre”. Hell even Nolan gains more hate w each film by people who want to seem intellectual that you can tell not even a TDK universe would survive after long
I just wonder how MCU's cgi is getting worse all the time. Even Iron Man 1 still looks better than Black Panther, Civil War, Black Widow, Shang-Chi etc. Maybe a bit too much content this year so budget isn't big enough for 3-4 movies and 5 series? 2 MCU movies a year felt a bit much already when you're like me and also watched FOX' X-Men stuff and DC movies not to mention Netflix shows and those god awful CWTV DC properties I used to watch.
The last four MCU movies have been mediocre or bad, and a lot of people forget how shit the early MCU truly was. Half of the MCU is boring unwatchable garbage and always was.
Thats not true at all. Dc still makes movies/TV shows there are still movies/TV shows being made from indi comics as well. Just beacuse the mcu takes up a huge portion of the movies dosent mean that they are the only ones
@@richardmartinez5040 Yes, it's possible to change the formula. There are countless examples of superhero movies that don't follow the MCU genre and they did quite well: Nolan's Batman movies, Chronicle and Deadpool are just the most popular examples.
MCU movies are looking the same because Marvel is playing safe with a formula that it's proven to work instead of trying something new.
I believe this will hands down be the most visually stunning film in the MCU. With Chloe Zhao’s signature nature shots in mind, and knowing that they shot largely on location.
lmao okay bot. keep commenting
@@kanseidorifto5367 I guess two comments isn’t very much, so you’re right I should continue commenting.
I was so lost I ended up falling asleep in the theater
personally i thought there was too much focus on romance. i didn’t need multiple long ass scenes telling me that the main FL had a romance with the main(?) ML. and that rush at the end broke everything the ML built for himself as a character.
This was easily in my top 10 MCU movies. So good
Absolutely
So what is the point of the avengers when you have the eternals?
7:05 "I feel like DC did this better"
That put a smile on my face
I'm a marvel fan but l agree
I feel like it's because we don't know these characters at all.. as opposed to Superman and the likes...
Of course I thought of Superman and Flash, but I did not even Consider Loki! Since Loki learned from his mom, it would be awesome to find out Frida learned from Sprite! I LOVE this movie! The slow parts really speak to the ending and add to the story. Nothing is there just as filler.
"The concept of Eternals is a lot more interesting than its execution" : the movie had been MCUfied
Jeremy's anti colonization rant of (UNINHABITED planets) was so bad it makes me question not just this review, but his ability to form logical conclusions at all.
I think the idea is that if we find a planet that can sustain human life, at some point it will probably develop parallel to earths development, so are we stunting or halting that if we come and inhabit that planet.
Liked it. Wish it didn’t over-explain. Some things too on-the-nose. Bad guy was unnecessary.
I just wanna know how it expands the MCU lore and/or multiverse threads. If it’s important to watch on those grounds for other movies, or disposable like Captain Marvel.
If they keep close to the comics the eternals are tied to the celestials. Celestials are tied to the bigger cosmic ideas in the comics. Can’t speak to where they will go, but by including the celestials into this movie it opens the door for things like silver surfer, galactus, and other cosmic concepts in the comics. This movie will for sure feel slightly disconnected from the rest of the marvel, but in future as marvel dives deeper into fantastic four (upcoming), and the multiverse I think this movie will provide context.
@@parkerwhite7259
Are the celestials and cosmic characters/ideas connected to the multiverse ideas? Cause Guardians had some cosmic stuff with none of it connected to that, and I've never seen Galactus/Surfer connected to it.
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I hope this is the start of people realizing the MCU formula and as a whole is starting to go stale, which is how I've felt since Infinity War. Lord knows I'll be the first in line to see No Way Home, GOTGvol3, Thor 4, Dr. Strange 2, but this whole thing needs more than that to elevate itself. I mean does it baffle anyone else's mind that the Blade reboot will not be rated R? This was all a cool concept in 2008-2012, now its wearing thin with a lack of risks/creativity.
came for the review,
stayed for the pondering scientific philosophy.
The only reason they did an eternals movie is because they fucked up with inhumans
Kevin feige called this the greatest marvel movie few months back...
Let that sink in
Dude, he will call that to every Marvel movie he's producing. He's a producer of course he's gonna praise his own work 😂
He made similar comments about Captain Marvel years ago and we see how that ended..
He also captain marvel is the most powerful hero in the mcu. Then he started saying it’s Wanda and then the externals. He’s just creating hype for each installment is all
@@TheFreshSoundsFlorida yeah.....THAT ONE
Ah yes , a producer marketing his movie , suprising .
The MCU is stagnating in places for me. Black widow would genuinely have been good if it dropped the comicbook-ness. Shang chi was awesome for the first two acts then the third was far too CGI, boss battle. These movies are based of comics I get it, and they need to appeal to kids, but I really want an MCU movie that's more of a movie than comic book movie.
The irony there is that the comics tend to be more mature in the handling of their characters and stories compared to the MCU. Like the Shang-Chi comics don’t even have big fights with monsters like the movie did, they’re basically “James Bond meets Bruce Lee” kind of stories that focus more on grounded and realistic fights. So if anything, the issue is that they’re not enough like the comics that they’re based on.
@@ldiod4374 Fair point man. I think it's the age thing aswell. I'm 24 now when the MCU started I was 11. Movies don't slap the same way. Except Spiderman tho 😂
I personally LOVED the movie and it didn’t feel like 2 and a half hours at all... I could totally watch it again and again
I've watched all of the trailers, and I don't know what ETERNALS is about either. Also, you still haven't done a review of *Transformers: War for Cybertron: Chapter 3: KINGDOM*
well going off the trailers it looks like Robb stark from game of thrones discovering he used to be a god or super hero and now he has to relearn how to fight to protect the earth while teaming up with a bunch of other gods . but the impression ironically his character isn't mentioned at all in this review.
It used to be The Eternals. So you weren't wrong. The title dropping the 'The' was a headline during the time there was no other movie news.
Makkari is easily the best speedster I’ve ever seen in a movie or tv show, the slow mo scenes are overdone now so seeing someone run in real time and having big impact with their hits was so good to see, it’s a shame she’s probably the character we are the least likely to get more of.
The deviant plot was a bit shit though, guy didn’t even have a name and wanted the same thing as the eternals in the end but Angelina Jolie ended the plot in about 2 seconds
Which struck me as kinda weird because he could heal himself before he morphed into final form. So y didn’t he just heal himself after being diced by Athena??
@@mr.winkie guess you cant heal getting your head cut into quarters
@@mr.winkie She went for the head
@@OGR-4394 oh. BrainKiller. 👍🏽👍🏽 Didn’t think that deeply about it.
Season 1 CW FLASH would like a word with u