How to ProPress Copper Pipes (Pros & Cons) | GOT2LEARN
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- In this video, i'll show you all you need to know about using the Pro Press system, why you would want to use it and so much more.
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Architect here. We use this system in Germany for 25+ years on copper, stainless steel and galvanized steel piping. Never encountered a leak and very easy to use.
Pressfittings on steel pipes have been used in Europe since 1969. Pressfittings for steel are similar to this made of copper. Viega adapted the steel pressfittings to copper in 1995.
Are you using Viega or? I have used once Hertz fittings and I am not been satisfied with it. You can remove metal part from fittings and make mistake during pressing. I was using it on alupex. In Croatia I was doing with alupex but in England because of rats I'm using copper.
eaglevision993 hey thanks! Architect here, learning about using this system for my own home. Very glad to get your note of confidence.
Please I want come to America to study plumbing who are know you any cuminaty college in usa
@@maradona-xf4mc NO . Stay where you are .
As a professional plumber of 20 years, this tool is indispensable. I use it a lot and is great for emergency repairs. No need to wait around for pipes to drain. Love this tool!
So are you recommended to buy this tool
@@eddye4833 yup
@@eddye4833 yes
@@eddye4833 if you're doing a lot of copper and aren't working by the hour it's a lifesaver
I bought 4 sets of a different brand for my guys to have. Spent almost 5 grand but after they got the hang of it they paid for themselves in a week.
What do you think about shark bite?
the fact that you can use it on a line full of water is the biggest selling point imo... great for repair work
Couple of tips for these Pro Press tools:
If your battery dies mid press, absolutely do not move the tool while changing the battery. If the tool moves even a little, and you try to press again, that fitting will leak.
For your marks for slip couplings, take either a stop coupling or a 90 to get your mark then press your slip to that mark.
And dont press connections too close together, especially 1 1/2 pipe and up. The press actually crimps the pipe as well and if you press fittings too close together it'll have a higher chance of leaking.
All good advice here, thanks a lot for your input!!!
1/2" to 2" it is important to keep the hexagonal deformation on the press. 2-1/2" to 4" it doesn't matter. Milwaukee won't feather and will reset, Rigid tools you can feather the press
I've used the Pro Press system, at my job, since 2002. You cannot beat it!
I recall a particular incident, where I had to replace a leaking 1.25 gate valve, in a system where the water could NOT be shut down. I cut the valve off (took a huge soaking) slid the new valve onto the pipe, in the open position, so it wouldn't blow-off, and crimped that puppy on...shut valve, cleaned up water...DONE!
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I just purchased a Rothenberger ProPress. The experience has been 110% positive. The very first job was 1-1/4" copper in a high rise building where the water just wouldn't stop coming. I got soaked from head to toe doing the job as the water poured out from above, but, the job got done! (the building manager said the last plumber just stood around for four hours and waited for the building to drain, which added $600 to his bill, and at the end-of-the day the pinholes still weren't fixed) I installed two Tees and two couplings in about 30mins which is 1/4 of the time it would take to solder.
The only drawback so far is my supplier keeps very low inventory of Propress fittings for 1" and up. Hopefully that changes as they continue to catch on in Canada.
That's awesome, I love hearing positive stories like yours. If you do alot of that stuff, it'll pay for itself after 2 or 3 jobs, than it's easy money for you ;)
Problem is, their is a rubber o ring, that o ring will fail , rubber corrode. Now try getting that tool in tight places,
Rothenberger is propress?
It's great if you're a plumbing/ HVAC contractor. It's a huge savings in labor costs. Being a mechanical insulation contractor, though, these systems increase my overall material and labor costs by 12-15% .(Mostly labor) Every fitting has to be oversized. On soldered piping the pipe insulation would squeeze right over the coupling fitting. (Every 10 feet) on mains. Now we have to oversize the insulation by one size to fit over the fitting decreasing output substantially. On chilled water systems these oversized fittings need to painted with a vapor barrier mastic to prevent sweating. To all you contractors out there, take care of your subs.
Great point that’s commonly overlooked
your plumbing videos are absolutely the best on the Internet! I really appreciate all the hard work and dedication to detail you do for these presentations.
Thanks a million Doug, really appreciate it 🤗
this guys a dork
The best and honest presentation .
Top notch video- the cutaway shots, the detail views, the ‘mistake’ shots, the repeated connections, sound on !, ,lots of examples too.
You are natural teacher sir.
Thank you for appreciating my videos! Thats what i do it for!
@@Got2Learn Thank you for great videos! Unlike others, your videos are always worth the time wasted on TH-cam commercials :)
I agree top notch cut away and examples
Under the list of pros & cons , you overlooked 1 very important factor.
Safety!
Transportation of flammable gas bottles incorrectly can be hazardous, if not fatal if not done correctly. I still remember news worthy articles of plumbing vans exploding like a land mine in my local news paper when I was an aprentice , being pointed out by my father , as he read the paper on a Sunday morning.
Lets not take that for granted.
Very true, thanks for adding that!
We have soldered copper plumbing that is almost 125 years old in our old farm hours....no problems. I wonder if those rubber O-rings will do as well....
That is neither here nor there i have had soldered joints leak after 5 years and i have sharkbites that have not leaked in 10. so there is always room for problems is all i am saying. You can always get a bad joint with solder press or push to connect.
Great video. I use a REMS AKKU Press. The 1/2" inch (15mm) fittings are competitively priced against other fittings such as pushfit, but the price jumps when the size is 3/4" (22mm). Not a tool for tight areas such as under kitchen sinks, but REMS sell a 45 degree head to allow better access. A very neat finish which is secure and leak free, with no heat required.
Yes indeed, not for under sink applications but great for so many other things, specially with that 45 degree adaptor ;)
Milwaukee pro-press kit $2000 for 1 inch to 1/2 inch pipes! Out of reach for most of us weekend warriors with a leaky pipe or a new bathroom! Your video's are the best!
With the cost of plumbers in my area, it will pay for itself in a couple of jobs!
It is spendy but considering what plumbers charge it looks like if you crimp about 24 fittings this tool will pay for itself. You can also buy a used one and then sell it, you might even make money on the tool.
Been using the "Mega-press" for BIP about 5yrs now. So fast, easy prep for the helper, and i dont have to lug a threader onto a rooftop!
Amazing product, gonna make a video about it this summer 🤘
as a bonus,
You can turn the propress fittings BUT if you do more than a 1/4 turn you must recrimp
It is recommended to keep certain distances between 2 fittings ( refer to the viega specs )
It is recommended to keep a certain distance between the propress joint and the copper weld you will do if you do any ( flush valves, soldered 3/8" valves ) refer to the viega specs
It is recommended to crimp couplings on 2 different axis as to try to keep the copper line as straight as possible.
AND take your time, sometimes in small areas YOU must precrimp certain fittings or else you wont have access with the propress gun to crimp them.
always have to repress propress after rotation, every single time no matter what
@robpendola5888 if I remembrr correctly it's past 1/4 turn. It was written in the ridgid / viega manual . Sometimes there is a slight movement in the crimp which is normal.
@@TheBostonstapler If you purposely rotate it,then you have to repress Viega ProPress fittings every time. Unlike MegaPress Viega fittings which are a natural swing joint. Never rotate a ProPress fitting under pressure, don't put a wrench on the fittings, and keep that hexagonal press shape. I can't speak for other press fittings, only Viega which is ProPress. I am a technical trainer for Viega
@robpendola5888 I understand, but it happens once in a while the fitting even when crimped, there is a tiny bit of movement in it. What I'm saying is that this is normal.
Like these videos. Very informative, educational and always to the point. No excessive narration or filler.
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I use to work at a place where we repaired Hot Water/Heating systems.. We had a Pro Press and I really was impressed. It works well in tight quarters. Also Is was it was great when there was water in the lines .. Downside is the price.. But the company paid for it. All in all I think it’s awesome
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About a year ago I rented this tool from a local company to use on a commercial system. It worked great and I would recommend it.
Absolutely!
Thanks
As a plumbing contractor for over 20 years, I can tell you this tool (I prefer the M12, it's smaller), can be a life saver. However, like any other tool it's NOT the silver bullet. Fittings DO leak when not crimped properly and many times you cannot get the tool in tight spots, also the very first fitting I crimped leaked! The tool was brand new and didn't work properly, so I had to have it serviced. It would have costs $826.00!! But luckily Milwaukee fixed under warranty at NO cost. Overall, I love it, but still have to solder sometimes.
Yeah Vinny, it has it's ups and downs, but when you need it, it's fun to have ;) thx for passing by ;)
"$826.00!!" for servicing the tool?See this people?This is why I rag on milwaukee.On top of all of the money this poor guy spent on that milwaukee press tool it failed him and if it hadn't been because the press tool was still under warranty this poor guy would have had to spend "826.00!!" that he probably needs for other things such as food and such.
@@nelsonechevarria7009 I know right? You can buy a new one with no jaws or battery for close to that price.
Nelson Echevarria Poor guy? He must not be that poor if he can afford a specialty tool like a propress. He invests in his future and his livelihood. With the time and money that tool makes and saves you, you can fork out $826.00
It’s not chump change but it’s not a lot in the great scheme of things. It is BS how it failed on the first use but nothing is perfect and the percentage that this happens to must be very low.
@@alexveitia6909 Yes,I say "poor guy" because what if the company hadn't given the guy a new press tool or fixed the one he bought from them in the first place?As far as "With the money that tool makes and saves you,you can fork out $826.00" that is debateable because I recently bought not one but two press tools from China,the first press tool cost me $1,120.00 and the second press tool which is more compact and comparable to rigid's rp-200b which is the one that I wanted in the first place cost me $910.00.I'm a home owner but back in the day when I was young I learned plumbing from licensed contractors and licensed plumbers.Now I do my own home repairs if and when ever possible and I also occasionally do repairs for people that I know.My point which you clearly missed is how insanely expensive milwaukee and rigid sell their press tools for,have you taken a look at how insanely expensive the press jaws are as well?I have used my press tools already and I will say that the press tools are a great asset and time saver but there is no reason what so ever for companies such as milwaukee and rigid to fleece people especially when they have their press tools made in China then have the press tools shipped here to the U.S. and rip people off.rigid press tools come with a lifetime warranty but the lifetime warranty comes with humongus catches and considering that the press tool costs $2,500.00 and up plus how insanely expensive extra press jaws are I call total bullshit on both rigid and milwaukee."Oh,I have milwaukee/rigid press tool."So big fucking whoop what?Do you think your pipes give a shit what brand press tool you have or where you bought the press tool from?"Oh,you have to buy viega press fittings.",another horse drawn cart of pure unadulterated bullshit because I bought JW copper press fittings and they're just as good as the "viega copper press fittings" without the extra "viega" cost.I learned long ago and the hard way that expensive doesn't always mean that you get the most for your hard earned money.You mention SharkBite and I'm glad that you did because although SharkBite fittings are good I would not trust SharkBite fittings enough to install them in a wall then close the wall up.Maybe the SharkBite company has changed their policy but at no time have I ever read or heard that SharkBite fittings are meant as a permanent repair solution.Thanks for sharing.
I’m a plumbing and heating apprentice and studying level 3. I’ve never done pressfit looks ok but I’d still prefer solder but my new employers use this method. Good video to learn from 👍
Congrats! Yeah ProPress is slowly taking the lead but a lot of companies still solder their copper, but it's good to know how to do both, cheers!
How long do the o-rings last?
Great video. DIY homeowner here and I'm about to pull the trigger on one of these for two upcoming hybrid water heater installations that involve repiping. Expensive it is but it will save me a lot of headaches and stress... DIY not to save money but to do it right.
Nothing wrong with DIY as long as you do the correct research and know when you are out of your depth
@@lewis94uk The only time you are out of your depth is when you give up.
The tool is expensive but considering what plumbers charge its actually one of the easiest tools to pay for itself. One or two jobs and its paid for, that and you can buy a used one and then sell it for what you paid. Or just rent one if available.
Not our fittings but that doesn't take away anything from this being a really great video! Kudos. ☺
Buddy of mine just came today to fix some copper pipes in front of my house he used this same method I was blown away how fast everything was done makes me want to get into plumbing 😂
You would think a plumber would charge less considering the job can be done very fast now but they use the tool as an excuse to charge more.
A plumber came to do some emergency furnace work in my basement. His sharp eye spotted a bad copper fitting on my water heater, which I would have normally done myself, but he was there so I asked him to do it. He used the Ridgid version. The repair went so fast I didn't believe he could have been done. So he showed me the ProPress and it blew me away. I had never heard of it. I wanted one, but when I saw the prices I almost passed out. But I did find a hand tool, a hydraulic press for 1", 3/4", 1/2" for the DYI guys. Got good reviews. So if you're still drooling over the Milwaukee or Dewalt, like I am, the hydraulic hand tool smoothed me out like my morning Oxycontin. But I'm still dreaming that Milwaukee or Dewalt will give me one of theirs, like the
DEWALT DCE200M2K 20V.
What hydraulic hand tool did you buy? I'd love to get one of those
Excellent informative video! We used pro-press on some 1-1/4 copper chiller lines that carry glycol/water mix. No problems after several years yet.
Awesomeeeee 🤩🤩🤩
As long as the mix isnt too pure i had a whole house leak
We use less than 50%@@Linetworks
This is absolutely the best plumbing channel 👍
Wow, I feel very special right now :)
@@Got2Learn You do explain this, and most plumbing techniques, very well! 👍
This machine is really great
You and Roger are the best plumbing video channels. Thank you for all the free content
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Awesome video man I been really interested in this sytem, just recently got my m12 Milwaukee pex expander and really love that think ill stick to that for now but this definitely would be really handy for certain jobs that have to be done in copper.
I absolutely love pro press. I use it mostly on commercial property’s for the simple fact that most business can’t go long with out water. It’s such a time saver. If at all possible can you do a review on pro pressing gas lines? Thanks and thanks again for another awesome video.
Pro press is awesome man, thx again for the comment Richie!!!
Please don't use this on a house. They have made repairs on mine super expensive as a home gamer.
@@kennethcargill3512 why is that
I appreciate how well you explain everything! Love watching your videos! Thanks!
I love the tool
It’s not for everything, but is a life saver in certain situations
Has gotten me home at a reasonable hour several days by being able to transition to pex to temporary the water on for a customer after my guys chip through a line at the end of a day. Always happens on the ones the customer is living in the remodel
Hehe yeah true ;)
Propress is a game changer. Even of you only ever press on pex adapters any professional plumber knows it is worth every penny.
It sure is ;)
Truth is nothing is better than a soldering job done by a professional
I want one of these so bad. I’m not a plumber but i love tools and ever since I saw a plumber use one I want one
Excellent presentation. I had heard about this new system. I have sweated many pipes and made every mistake mentioned. The verbal and video presentation was clear and about the best youtube learning video I have ever seen.
Wow, thank you so much Charles, I really appreciate that, have a great evening!!!
Great video! I'm shopping for a propress gift for my plumbing husband. Thanks
Been using these for 10 years and swear by them, had a handful of leaks over thousands of presses, obviously takes the skill out of it but when you're pressing up to 108mm it's nice to have that peace of mind.
What skill, soldering? My 11years old granddaughter can solder pipes stop trying to make it sound like rocket science
I use a Uponor tool with press heads depending on each use; Uponor for flex pipe, viega or vsh for copper, bonfix for copper to flex etc. Works great and is a lot less expensive to buy. The brand Uponor is a sister brand of Makita.
Uponor products ARE great, and it does seem to be a case of "you get what you pay for" (it's pricey).
I'm not quite sure what you're on about, Uponor is a Finnish publicly traded company that manufactures pipe systems, and is in no way related to Makita. Uponor might have tools made by Makita rebranded for their use.
It would have been very helpful if you had given a web link or price as some sort of indicator because "a lot less expensive to buy" makes no sense without some sort of reference point for comparison.If you earn $250,000.00 per year and I only earn say $50,000.00 per year then your phrase "a lot less expensive to buy" is not going to mean the same thing to me as it does to you.I Iooked up that "Uponor" and from what I saw as far as the pricing of their press tools they are just as insanely priced as Milwaukee and Rigid press tools are.Look at this,for one set of 1/2" uponor replacement inserts they want $225.95.: www.supplyhouse.com/Wirsbo-Uponor-D6270500-1-2-Replacement-Insert-for-MLC-Mulitpress-Manual-Press-Tool-10972000-p that's just for one 1/2" set of inserts,and those inserts are only for a manual pressing tool,if they charge that much for a set of 1/2" inserts I'd hate to see how much they charge for the manual press tool itself,are they smoking crack-cocaine?To Milwaukee's credit they only charge $175.99 for a Milwaukee 1/2" m18 standard copper press jaw.: www.supplyhouse.com/Milwaukee-49-16-2650-1-2-M18-Standard-Copper-Press-Jaw You must be earing plenty big money to be able to call any of that "a lot less expensive to buy".
Ive had my propress for 1 year already and absolutely love it. You don't need to calibrate it frequently, and I can use it while water is on if I need to. I can just press on a ball valve, close the valve, and good to go. No leak, everything is great. Spent $3k for all my attachments, and tool. And any issues, Milwaukee will be able to replace or fix for free.
It's 50,000 cycles before the calibration
@@Got2Learn I've had it for a year and have done more than 50k cycles. Haven't got it calibrated once.
That’s a great tool!! You are the best plumber ever in the whole job site!!!!!!!
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Never seen one, not that I'm a plumber anyway. I'm convinced they could clamp that using a hand bolt-cutter type device rather than a $$$$ battery tool. Not like you couldn't squeeze copper when you could break hardened steel. Just a thought, personally I'd prefer to solder fittings.
Nice, informative video...like your others. One point you don't address that other videos skip, too: The cleaning of the outside of the pipe. While I guess it's not necessary, I'd still feel better if the outer surface of the adjoining pipe contacting the fitting was wiped down with SOMETHING before the rubber mates with it. Certainly couldn't hurt and wouldn't take all that long, either. Strange.
As a plumber for a day... yes.. I am a master plumber.... I love this. In fact, I bought the Dewalt Expansion tool and all uponor fittings and now uponor makes these press fittings so I bought some to convert from copper to pex before I rip it all out and just run pex from the main line (when I get to that, I am not sure but I want to replumb the house with a tankless heater and manifold)
Clearest videos and no beating around the bush! BEST kudos to you.
Thanks 👍!!!!!!
@@Got2Learn My pleasure, do you have videos on how to remove the Propress fittings? Thank you!
@@artyzinn7725 you can't remove them ;)
propress is a godsend for commercial work. Just pressed in a 3 inch valve for a hotel in no time. If i had to solder it would have been a pain the ass overhead 12 feet up.
Exactly!
We used this on 4" for a bit of the mains on a hotel we did. Pretty cool stuff. PS you can rent the tool for large jobs and return it when you are done.
Yeah that's also a good option.
thank you for SHOWING what it does. That other plumbing youtuber (Roger Wakefield) just talked about it and never showed how it works, just kept the thing in its case, and blabbed on and on.
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Awesome video! Never seen or heard about this type of system before. Very informative! Love the cut fittings for good demonstration.
Glad you enjoyed it John, thank you!!!
As DIYer I love these new tools and fitting coming out. I enjoy taking on plumbing projects but always hated soldering. I'm not bad at it but sometimes the work area is too tight and seems too dangerous for a blow torch. Hopefully the price comes down after a couple years. Great video!
Yeah pro press is the way to go for so many reasons, thx for your comment Mike ;)
I have a small section of fiberglass welding blanket i use when i have to solder in a tight spot to protect the surroundings.
If you are a DYI'r don't use this. Buy Expansion Pex
that’s what soldering blankets are for
Rental is 156$ for a day at sunbelt.
Edit* I saw the dewalt kit.
Very informative. Wondering how long pro-press fittngs are expected to last?
i've had to replace leaking copper fittings and had to drain the whole system on 2 different occasions. the water just kept flowing and flowing and flowing, lol. not saying i would shell out the money for this very expensive tool if i had to do it again, but it's great to know there is something like this available out there in case i need it for a non-emergency or a big job that pays for it, thank you for making the video!
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Soldering a wet pipe easy and super cheap at the day old bread store.
Create a ball out of white bread after preparing the pipe and fitting shove the bread ball up the pipe as a stop. Once the job is done and water is back on pull the aerator from and faucets in that line and run the water for 5 minutes all the bread will dissolve into the water replace aerators and your done.
In NYC we still use copper lines as per city regulations. However im seeing more of these crimp systems being implemented. I'm still a fan of soldered connection, but you can't argue with the speed and convenience of a crimp fitting.
Yeah the speed is it's strongest point.
Thank you! Extremely enlightening and well done. I think “Professional” is the correct word!
Got my first job tomorrow with the pro press really appreciate the content.
Good day,
this looks amazing, I know you said that the pro press can be used in an industrial setting ,the crimp can withstand air pressure ( even hospital oxygen tanks,i assume) of about 200PSI which is roughly 13.7 bar for us.
In an industrial setting at which soldering is dominant, especially in the medical gas oxygen cylinder system in hopspitals that use condensers & vaporisers connections using Cu pipe.
in your opinion could this be acceptable in that environment?
Thanks,
Wow, your video quality is absolutely monstrously gigantic.
Your attention to detail is huge, your informativeness is astounding.
8:25 what's that big grey thing?
Hehe, thank you very much. The grey thing is a torpedo level ;)
A torpedo level
Helpful information, thank you for sharing !!
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Great Video!! Excellent thorough Review and demonstration . Thank You for this effort
Glad it was helpful!
Good explaiation. Thorough, complete and to the point. No wasted time.
Glad you liked it!
Thank you, don't forget to share, it really helps the channel!
I dont even do plumbing but this is one of my fav channels LOL
Woooohooooo thanks 🤘🤘🤘
I never realized how bad i was at soldering water pipes, until i had to solder caps from removing hot water coil. Definitely failed on soldering, so i pulled out company's propress. Lol!!
Hvacr tech. 0 leaks from brazing.
Or you could have used ball valves with comppression fittings or SharkBite caps if it was a temporary thing.
"Smoke 'em if ya got 'em."
Now that you mention it I'm going to have to install ball valves,unions and a bypass line from my hot water coil pipe because the hot water coil is piped to the cold water inlet on my water heater so if my hot water coil ever gets clogged I'm going to need ball valves to shut off the water to the hot water coil,unions to disconnect the hot water coil and a bypass line to divert the water from the hot water coil directly to my water heater until I can order a new hot water coil for my boiler.Gee,isn't owning a home loads of fun?NOT!!!On the bright side,if you can call it that,a new hot water coil for my boiler would only cost me $250.00 (last time I checked.) plus the shipping and tax,that's if I do the work myself.If I call a contractor or plumber to do the work I don't even want to discuss it or think about it because it gives me a terrible headache and a big pain in the wallet.
Great review you covered all my questions in one take!⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Thank you for the video, our shop has been using press for a few years, some love it, some hate it.
Yeah not everyone likes the idea, but for some it's a life changer :)
@@Got2Learn I do not like it for everyday use but it can be a game changer on shut downs.
Yes, exactly!!
Kid from germany here: Im working since 6 months and in any application/construction sotw we habe never ever seen anybody not use propress. I asked why we dont solder things and they told me that in germany we dont solder things since more than 10 years
@Maximus Decimus Meridius i hope ur not right bcuz that will be alot of work :D
Maximus Decimus Meridius actually Europe has been using press fittings since about 1956. They are warrantied for 50 years.
@Maximus Decimus Meridius job Security my friend just like THE new cars.
Nice tool, I guess it's better than soldering in the residual flux in the water supply after soldering.
You're lucky. Here in the US propress is expensive. We still have to solder fittings. It sucks.
If you are just doing a few fittings and want to keep it simple just use swagelok or yor-lok tube fittings. Fittings are a little expensive but the ease of installing is very nice. You don't need fancy equipment - just some wrenches.
Are those similar to compression fittings?
@@Got2Learn Yes they are compression fittings
great job demonstrating the use of the tool, I don't like soldering copper so now I will just crimp it!
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Have a propress at work. Fast, simple, and makes a rigid connection. We use them for weld gas supply, steam condensate, and water works at the plant.
Thank you, I feel less prepared to do this job myself now. lol Plumbers are expensive and you never know when or if they will have time.
Yea see this in all plumbers. Its good. We even do some in the sprinkler side. Never done one myself tho
Wow, the fact that you needn't drain the pipes is a great feature. This looks like a great way to install systems.
Thank you for this video! Had these put in on a job and they leaked at the valve. Replacing these are a total pain. So if they last forever, great. But when they need work I'd prefer the old solder which is much more flexible.
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Could you solder both sides of a fitting if it failed? Probably a code violation or something huh..
@@digi3218 yes, code violation 💯
Solid point.
Thank you ,I learned new stuff today
Thanks buddy!!
Aaaaand another good video! Keep 'em coming! Soon 75k!
Thanks Dimitri, I prefer saying 100k soon ;)
Very nice video and I like how you cut the pipes as a cutaway to show the inside
Thanks man, quality over quantity :)
Ordered mine this week, can’t wait to get it into the field!!
Same here, went with Ridgid though.
Very helpful and interesting tutorial even though I may not have the chance to use it.
Thank you so muchhh!!!
Great vid, had never seen these before until last year. A contractor installed them and there were 6 very very small leaks which sealed themselves after a few weeks and remain dry. Contractor was called back but said that sometimes some water "shelters" in the fittings :-)
Hmmm....interesting.
never had a drip yet.
Thank you so much, ill be using it in a few minutes for my job ❤🎉thanks for the great video and the awesome explanation ❤❤
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Been waiting for this one!
Sweet!
Watching this video again I just noticed that the JW brand copper press elbows have more of a sweep than the viega copper press elbows,that's interesting considering that the viega copper press elbows cost more than the JW brand copper press elbows.
Been using ProPress system for years on copper fuel runs in the gas industry. All fittings used are marked in yellow for gas. So for no leaks after running miles of copper lines. Time will tell how long the O-rings last. I've worked in the gas utility business for over 35 years and I can tell you I have seen companies come and go based on the idea of the next best invention or product. In other words one failure and one lawsuit and a system like this could be history.
Well said.
The explanation is clear enough, great job!
Thank you very much! !
You're welcome, greetings from Hesperia Ca. USA
Been using pro press to do some runs at my house lately, with a hand crimper, so easy to do
I'm not a plumber, but the longevity of the o-ring would worry me in any work I had done in my house. It's similar to a compression fitting, using a tool instead of a nut. I wonder if a variant just using the copper fitting itself would work? It would have to be redesigned to have a ring that could be compressed onto the pipe, or maybe use a separate copper olive.
A lot of people have the same opinion as you, but little do people know, is that EPDM o-rings have been used on submarines in the military for years now and they are also used on every car's braking system, so we basically depend on these o-rings every day without even knowing it. This is why Pro Press fittings are reliable and are ok to use, there should be no worries. If you soldered the joint for example, it would also start leaking after 40-50 years, just like the o-ring, they are just quicker to install :)
@@Got2Learn A properly soldered joint will last the lifetime of the pipe. EDPM is petroleum based and will last about 50+ years...maybe.
These o-rings are EDPM. Then again, copper pipe should last 50+ years. So it's a wash. Something will give.
I just had a spigot replaced and the plumber used these fittings to come from the riser. I had NEVER heard of these and was only aware of soldering for my all copper house piping. He was in and out VERY quickly. But I am still a little bit concerned about the O ring wearing out. I guess only time will tell and lawyers, if or when they deteriorate. It might be good to come up with a metal O ring material that is exactly the right size and soft enough or flexible to 'weld' to the pipe when under pressure and crimped. Check with Area 51 which might have it.
Maybe you can solder after its installed?
Awesome video. Straight forward and covers everything
Check around for different brand of fittings, here in Europe normal residential size fittings are around 3-4 EUR each if you go for the brand name Geberit Mapress stuff, some like Sahna are even cheaper.
Looking at this I really wonder if a good old copper compression fitting will not have a longer life.... And also does not require a hot work permit. I would use those only for copper repair, for anything new, I am an Uponor Propex Expander guy.....
Fittings have just a 10 year guarantee...
@@bjornmarley5670 Depends on the quality: The FORGE™ range of DZR brass screwed, flared & compression fittings are perfect for potable water, natural & LP gas applications. All fittings are fully compliant to AS3688, carry the Watermark approval and are backed by the FORGE™ 25 Year Lifetime warranty.
German plumber here with 25 years of experience. Pressing is the absolute standard over here for water, gas and heating pipes.
I can´t remember exactly when we started pressing, but I think at least for the last 20 years. Other companies started using it even earlier. It is an absolute game changer, and I think it´s cheaper for the customer than soldering or brazing, because of the time saved. We also use this bender, th-cam.com/video/dE00xW0Wn0k/w-d-xo.html , also saves a HUGE amount of time.
pressen ist das einzig wahre
Hi Nostra the German Plumber I have so many questions about euro plumbing particularly on drains and venting. Im moving to Hungary towards the end of this year. Are you willing to help? 15 yrs plumbing an gas in Ontario. Email is Joeforty40@hotmail.com
How long to the joints last (o-ring failure)?
@@danlux4954 I just checked a few posts in German Forums, and one guy knows of a press fitting from 1970 (!) that is still ok.
Most of the time the copper pipe starts to leak before the o ring does.
@@nostradumbass4984 cool, I have a building that is 80+ years and one that is 130+ years and majority of the sweated plumbing is good.
Excellent video! Thank you for making this for people.
My pleasure Ken, I really enjoy doing so :)
Really great video. I had never heard of Pressing pipe and this explained it really well. Thanks!
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Pro Press systems work slick as snot, although the fittings are expensive!
yes, but the speed is worth the extra cost.
The tool is pretty expensive but if i have lot of jobs to do,I would buy it. There are some installation spots, we definitely we need it
Love these videos. Extremely informative and useful. Thank you
You are so welcome!!!
Very helpful. Thank you for your time making the videos. Dave
My pleasure :)
Great video..I work on Hvac systems and wouldn't trust a tool like this on those systems but plumbing system looks good but I dont do enough to justify the cost
Thanks! Yeah, for big plumbing contracts this tool is awesome ;)
25 years ago I was using these already. In Europe, that is.
It's probably considered a novelty in a country where houses are made out of cardboard.
as an european plumber these videos are like a timecapsule back to my apprenticeship in the early 2000's. half of what he's doing is either completely illegal (edit. illegal where i live. I'm sure it is up to code where he lives) or obsolete :) Seems like a nice guy though, and good at his job
@@kartoffelsaek In Germany plumbers have to know more about physics than the average physics student at any US university.
@@jacquesmertens3369 you seems like a proud european but US still have more invention than the whole euro combine
This is the best channel for plumbing I have learned so much. If you did an electrical channel for residential I would love you.
Thank you so much! Great video ✌🏼