One of the most beauty ones. Beside the voice of the guns and the great little army. I feel guilty cause I'm an Argentine infantry soldier but I love British military marches as much I love the British people. May God repair our relationship that we the humans do not keep in the order we are supposed to. Reconciliation now. ¡Viva la Patria! And God save the Queen!
Played show with the Royal Marines in Arnham around 1967. We Americans enjoyed their droll humor as we practiced for the NATO Taptoe, Played baritone many times as we carried our martyrs to the cemetary.
Playing this for the first time in the Ashford Concert Band (Kent, UK) tonight in preparation for Nov. 11th. I'm on bass clarinet. Lovely piece of music.
Performed by the U.S. Marine Band during the funeral procession for President John F. Kennedy from Washington D.C. to Arlington National Cemetery , November 1963.
This march was dedicated to the first hundred thousand killed,. It was virtually the entire regular army. Lord Kitchener then had to establish conscription, and quickly train a new army. If anything, the new conscripts suffered evenly a higher casualty rate than the regulars (which is to be expected when there are very few men with combat experience, and that goes for newer officers which led them. Critics back home said that Field Marshall Sir Douglas Haig's (commander in chief of the forces in combat) strategy was to cause the Germans to use up all their ammo by it being absorbed in the British soldiers' chests. Not amusing, but most soldiers charging the enemy machine gun nests, were charging upright, and that is where the German machine guns were aimed.
It was written, I think it was actually during the First World War, after the first 100,000 men had been killed around 1915 (basically the bulk of the professional standing army had been annihilated), hence the name 'Vanished Army' March.
Correct. 4/5th of the original BEF would be killed or wounded between August and December 1914. Alford lost many, many friends in the opening blows of the Great War. For the old professional army, it was apocalyptic, and one of the reasons John French broke down in tears when he ordered the army to turn around and go back into battle at the Miracle of the Marne, knowing what it meant.
Excellent performance of a good Alford March! Very interesting tempo variations, they lend personality to the performance, and sound like they could be authentic.
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This march was among the tunes played in the funeral cortege of Sir Winston Churchill in 1965. The somber tone is appropriate, and is enhanced by the minor key.
The Bass Clarinet part of this was a fresh kind of hell- We're at the top of our register almost the whole thing. Regardless, an excellent piece! Even a little fun, aside from the busted chops-
so glad to not hear this performed at a faster tempo! I almost cringe when Alford's marches are played at MM=120-126-132. I believe they lose much of their rhythmic flavor. Dotted rhythms are not as effective at MM=126-132. I've done research, and supposedly Alford himself often conducted some of his marches at 112-120. I can see that with 'Holyrood' or 'Standard of St. george' or 'HM Jollies' ... but NOT this one, or the majority.
MusicPro1 I whole heartedly agree with you. A march is not a race to the other end. Can you imagine marching all day at 120+ p/m? The poms know this with many of their marches at 96 p/m
A march is a style, not necessarily a tempo. historically, armies marched at a variety of cadences from as slow as 70 paces per minutes, up to 140 for light infantry (or 160 for the Gurkhas!) American Marches like those by Sousa tend to work well at 120, whilst most British marches tend to call for a more stately tempo around 108-112.
Does anyone on here know any good English folk music? (By English, I don't mean the language. I honestly have a hard time deciding between calling the British, well, British, or English, and would LOVE it if someone would clear it up for me.)
+Jessica Bray Dear Jessica,In truth the English get a bit of a raw deal from the other British,that is Scots,Welsh, even Irish.Scientifically, modern DNA research shows little difference except that the English DNA shows more evidence of the Saxon invasion in about 400 AD.I think it is English folk music that you are at a loss to find,as it has not been reinvented in fairly modern times, as have the others.Sea shanties are one example,the traditional pirate having a west country accent!Look up Border Morris too,then there is Greensleeves,The Lincolshire poacher,Lillybolero,On Ilkley Moor,De ye ken John Peel, all on You tube and often many of these are played by the Royal Marines or British Army bands,as we have regional regiments,.
Colin Norman Thank you, I will follow your recommendations, and appreciate the information! It's quite interesting actually. Do you happen to know any good books or websites to help expand on it, and on the history of England? I've been told to read Simon Schama, but would love to have more to go on, as his books are hard to get where I live.
Dear Jessica,I found a book on the English Heritage website,they are an organisation that looks after many ancient monuments here. ALSO WIKIPEDIA,was very helpful.English history is so long,Ithink you are interested in the period about 400 AD when the Romans withdrew,and what happened afterwards.The DNA evidence is new but can be searched for,notably there is no archaeolgical evidence of any genocide at the period of Anglo Saxon invasions.Like the Normans,later,they probably simply took over as a warrior aristocracy,married or seized the prettiest women and soon produced a generation with Anglo Saxon fathers and Britonic mothers.Over many years they did force back the Romano British into the west,Wales And Cornwall,.Later still uder attack from Vikings the English nation was formed,Alfred the Great,his daughter Aethelflaed,lady of the Mercians,and his illegitemate grandson Athelstan completing the process.They continually fought Wales and Scotland but ot was much later under aking called Edward 1st that they really attacked.Castles were built to surround Wales,and Edward was called the hammerer of the Scots, who succesfully resisted,see Braveheart the film,although it is not quite historically correct.Hope this helps Colin
One of the most beauty ones. Beside the voice of the guns and the great little army. I feel guilty cause I'm an Argentine infantry soldier but I love British military marches as much I love the British people. May God repair our relationship that we the humans do not keep in the order we are supposed to. Reconciliation now. ¡Viva la Patria! And God save the Queen!
Agreed!
Played show with the Royal Marines in Arnham around 1967. We Americans enjoyed their droll humor as we practiced for the NATO Taptoe, Played baritone many times as we carried our martyrs to the cemetary.
Playing this for the first time in the Ashford Concert Band (Kent, UK) tonight in preparation for Nov. 11th. I'm on bass clarinet. Lovely piece of music.
Performed by the U.S. Marine Band during the funeral procession for President John F. Kennedy from Washington D.C. to Arlington National Cemetery , November 1963.
medford briggs yes and at this tempo ...... Perfect
This march was dedicated to the first hundred thousand killed,. It was virtually the entire regular army. Lord Kitchener then had to establish conscription, and quickly train a new army. If anything, the new conscripts suffered evenly a higher casualty rate than the regulars (which is to be expected when there are very few men with combat experience, and that goes for newer officers which led them. Critics back home said that Field Marshall Sir Douglas Haig's (commander in chief of the forces in combat) strategy was to cause the Germans to use up all their ammo by it being absorbed in the British soldiers' chests. Not amusing, but most soldiers charging the enemy machine gun nests, were charging upright, and that is where the German machine guns were aimed.
Absolutely spiffing.
It was written, I think it was actually during the First World War, after the first 100,000 men had been killed around 1915 (basically the bulk of the professional standing army had been annihilated), hence the name 'Vanished Army' March.
I heard a few years back that the name actually had something to do with Lawrence of Arabia, and the vanished army was a tactic of his.
@@merpyf2471 They were killed in action.
Correct. 4/5th of the original BEF would be killed or wounded between August and December 1914. Alford lost many, many friends in the opening blows of the Great War.
For the old professional army, it was apocalyptic, and one of the reasons John French broke down in tears when he ordered the army to turn around and go back into battle at the Miracle of the Marne, knowing what it meant.
A masterpiece of musical flavours. Reminds me of my service as a young bandsman in the Band of the Curragh Command, especially being from Tipperary
Excellent performance of a good Alford March! Very interesting tempo variations, they lend personality to the performance, and sound like they could be authentic.
This is one of Kenneth J Alford's greatest marches .
THEY NEVER DIE!!!
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@Miles Isaac yup, been using InstaFlixxer for months myself =)
Thanks harrybeef...Great memories...
This march was among the tunes played in the funeral cortege of Sir Winston Churchill in 1965. The somber tone is appropriate, and is enhanced by the minor key.
For me, it's Euph heaven.
The Bass Clarinet part of this was a fresh kind of hell- We're at the top of our register almost the whole thing. Regardless, an excellent piece! Even a little fun, aside from the busted chops-
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my school played this for our advanced band festival (:
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Ominous
The Marine band played this during President Reagan’s funeral procession to the capitol rotunda; A fine choice if I do say so myself.
No country can beat OUR ROYAL MARINES.SO Very Very PROUD.
There was a Persian army that vanished in the desert.
so glad to not hear this performed at a faster tempo! I almost cringe when Alford's marches are played at MM=120-126-132. I believe they lose much of their rhythmic flavor. Dotted rhythms are not as effective at MM=126-132. I've done research, and supposedly Alford himself often conducted some of his marches at 112-120. I can see that with 'Holyrood' or 'Standard of St. george' or 'HM Jollies' ... but NOT this one, or the majority.
MusicPro1 I whole heartedly agree with you. A march is not a race to the other end. Can you imagine marching all day at 120+ p/m? The poms know this with many of their marches at 96 p/m
If it's not written to be played at 120 is it really a march?
A march is a style, not necessarily a tempo. historically, armies marched at a variety of cadences from as slow as 70 paces per minutes, up to 140 for light infantry (or 160 for the Gurkhas!) American Marches like those by Sousa tend to work well at 120, whilst most British marches tend to call for a more stately tempo around 108-112.
@@chungoid6702 more like a dirge if gets any slower
We always play Holyrood at a reduced tempo. It's a march that deserves a certain swagger!
Does anyone on here know any good English folk music? (By English, I don't mean the language. I honestly have a hard time deciding between calling the British, well, British, or English, and would LOVE it if someone would clear it up for me.)
+Jessica Bray Dear Jessica,In truth the English get a bit of a raw deal from the other British,that is Scots,Welsh, even Irish.Scientifically, modern DNA research shows little difference except that the English DNA shows more evidence of the Saxon invasion in about 400 AD.I think it is English folk music that you are at a loss to find,as it has not been reinvented in fairly modern times, as have the others.Sea shanties are one example,the traditional pirate having a west country accent!Look up Border Morris too,then there is Greensleeves,The Lincolshire poacher,Lillybolero,On Ilkley Moor,De ye ken John Peel, all on You tube and often many of these are played by the Royal Marines or British Army bands,as we have regional regiments,.
Colin Norman Thank you, I will follow your recommendations, and appreciate the information! It's quite interesting actually. Do you happen to know any good books or websites to help expand on it, and on the history of England? I've been told to read Simon Schama, but would love to have more to go on, as his books are hard to get where I live.
Dear Jessica,I found a book on the English Heritage website,they are an organisation that looks after many ancient monuments here. ALSO WIKIPEDIA,was very helpful.English history is so long,Ithink you are interested in the period about 400 AD when the Romans withdrew,and what happened afterwards.The DNA evidence is new but can be searched for,notably there is no archaeolgical evidence of any genocide at the period of Anglo Saxon invasions.Like the Normans,later,they probably simply took over as a warrior aristocracy,married or seized the prettiest women and soon produced a generation with Anglo Saxon fathers and Britonic mothers.Over many years they did force back the Romano British into the west,Wales And Cornwall,.Later still uder attack from Vikings the English nation was formed,Alfred the Great,his daughter Aethelflaed,lady of the Mercians,and his illegitemate grandson Athelstan completing the process.They continually fought Wales and Scotland but ot was much later under aking called Edward 1st that they really attacked.Castles were built to surround Wales,and Edward was called the hammerer of the Scots, who succesfully resisted,see Braveheart the film,although it is not quite historically correct.Hope this helps Colin
+Colin Norman Thank you again. I enjoy corresponding with you! You wouldn't mind if I shot you an email sometime, would you?
+Jessica Bray So long as you realise that I am an ol.d aged pensioner
Want to hear what instruments not blending sounds like? Play along with a Bb Tenorhorn. Sad face.
Too slow n got boring
Sorry, this is absolutely the correct tempo for this march. It isn't Sousa, my friend.
@@omniryx1 American marches are different to British ones, that is true
I mean this is used for military funerals sooo