If they brought back the 1 hit SRAW on attack choppers I think it would event things up - in 2016 it was the only way to stop AirBound and Phireball stomping everyone
4:56 starts talking about how you can never miss a target with predictable movement with practice 5:02 misses transport kekw. JK just found it amusing that you missed at that time not actually throwin shade
easy answer => teamwork, two engineers with stingers or igla can END the fun for helis. Even on shanghai with all the buildings, a two man commando drop on the roofs on the ennemy side can do the trick just fine. Every single time I see an attack helis with 100+ kill all i can think is "what the fck are the engineers doing ?", then I take my trusty aa boomstick and 10 min after that the heli domination is over ....
Honestly a good boat captain can end that shit on this map with a tv, or if you use the aa gun kit with passive radar you can one-shot choppers with right combo
im not a fan of the bf5 rearming system, i prefer the bf4 one tbh, but i do think the attack heli is way overtuned and is way too opressive in the right hands
How dare you give them th idea to make i more realistic, like the infantry on the ground. Give me unlimited SRAW rds and ill turn the sky to spaghetti around an attack helicopter. Haha
That dude aliti 308 bragging on that kill like it wasn’t a lucky shot and a right place right time situation. That’s what happens when someone stretches themselves out with being a bit TOO aggressive. 😂
Actually in real life Helicopters the US was developing in the 80's were becoming so good that the other branches of the military like the airforce stopped their development for awhile. The AH-56 Cheyenne was cancelled because the Airforce basically said it was taking away from their job. Eventually the Apache came out and was pretty good but they have realized now that the Cheyenne design was probably better.
I'm more proud of being that guy that kills these guys with an rpg tow or three times in a round and the third kill almost always causes a rage quit. I can see how you're flying nice and easy and it's not as hard to RPG helis as people think.
When I used to play BF4 a lot, I would usually watch out for RPG’s because RPG’s are the best method of taking out the really good attack helicopters pilots imo since they can catch you off guard easily if you aren’t aware. Good pilots will always keep a keen eye out for RPG’s and dodge them if they are fired towards you. Ending a pilots kill streak with an RPG just feels so satisfying and whenever I’m flying and I get RPG’d out of my heli, I have nothing but respect for that player.
@@nothing2see315 yeah I definitely agree! Unfortunately on console BF4 is very outdated compared to the recent Battlefield games. I wish they would update the performance on console. But on the bright side BF2042 is coming out and if it turns out to be really good that will keep me occupied.
One kill for each frame of the average fps with the 3080 ;) Amazing killstreaks man. The AH is definitely in a league of its own. Just a sidenote worth mentioning, is that the AH really shines ALOT on Seige of Shanghai making it extremely good (I´m NOT trying to look down on you xD ) where as many/most of the other maps doesn't share the same amount of cover as this one.
Wait till my 5950x arrives :D The AH is also definitely best on shanghai, but almost any other map can be farmed to 150+ easily. Rogue can actually be better than siege sometimes imo.
AH only shines on this map because there are no other air vehicles or aa, plenty of cover too to avoid stingers tows tvs etc... However skilled heli duo's should be able to take on any map. Hanger 21 by far is the hardest map to fly on (it only has two points for cover, and is very open, + jets + stingers), but is extremely rewarding if done right. Dawnbreaker has everything but has more cover than siege, however because the jets cant access infantry they will always and only go for air vehicles. AH really comes down to the skill of the pilot, and his ability to deal with different situations.
I think having such a great large skill sealing is good, it offers long term motivation. I think it would help to reduce the damage values of the attack helis weapons. Say, you have to hit a tow and a good part of your zunis to kill another heli, or, alternatively, two consecutive tows. This would mean that you would have to be very cinsistent with your shots, again, rewarding skilled players.
The gunner setup in the video is the best, that thermal optic lights all the infantry players up on the screen and makes finding and killing them super easy
The Viper is definitely a favorite of mine! Besides what you covered, I like the fact that you can get to and from any position very quickly. So it's fast, and hits hard at the same time. I also use it quite a bit to actually grab flags after clearing out an area; just one less thing for the team to do.
I think the only way to really balance the attack heli is with a nerf to flight mechanics like you mentioned and a resupply system where you don't have unlimited secondary ammo like TOWs and TVs
I like the way they implement it accept for one aspect. Midair reloading. I mis the old BF2 days when you had to hover/land at a controlled helipad to rearm. Likewise jets had to fly along the runway/carrier deck. Vehicles could only rearm from LAVs that had a LMG ammo player in them or a ammo truck at the main base. So you had to manage ammo but could resupply inBruce field all be it at a greater risk.
I could never master piloting the attack heli and left that to my mate cause I was an amazing gunner. But the scout heli was where it was at I loved causing jet mains to rage quit cause they can't shoot me down as my squad was awesome at keeping me alive as well getting kills of their own. I hope this kind of teamwork returns in bf6.
@@ry_an. absolute horseshit. Telling me because it's more along the lines of what it's really like it's too much? Regular mode is for the ones who can't handle not having their hands held while playing the game. If your getting sniped you probably need to stop what your doing and change it up.
@@mulisha0351 battlefield isn’t supposed to be realistic. Hardcore is boring for any one who actually likes playing the game instead of trying your best to pretend it’s real life.
this is why Recon's PLD should stay OP If you missed this, PLD are your saviour to assist other launchers on locking without worry about heli's flares or ECM
@@SilkOCE Well at the very least I recognize the IlIlIlIlIl-style name. There could be lots of them though. FPSG doesn't ring a bell. Usually TBG or turtles or whatever server is full. West coast.
It might but I think rearm points have been proven to be a very bad concept in bf5. In every instance it promotes players sitting back near it. E.g. dogfights often get taken back to rearm and AA interrupts, this makes people less inclined to DF. Tanks also sit on rearm points and snipe from spawn a lot of the time. What's stopping an attack heli doing the same I guess
@@SilkOCE Depends on how to the rearm points are put in, having a little spot that you can just fly over , i never cared for. Having the classic BF1942 style of having a airstrip or heli pad to go land on to get out and repair while the heli is rearming was always fun. Thats part of the problem with what you showed in your gameplay footage. Infinite ammo. I hope BF6 doesnt lose its sandbox feel but gets quite larger maps. Large enough to have air strips and main bases that aircraft and vehicles set out from, but need to return to to repair and rearm. Not as much of a logistical nightmare as hell let loose, or a meatball fest as current battlefields
I know this vid Is a bit old but a few days ago my team got entirely wrecked by a attackheli playing solo swapping seats. Was the very first time I experienced it
So let me get this straight... the pilot wasn’t the one gunning? I’m just blown away by the coordination between gunner and pilot. So fluid - just like real life
Pilot and Gunner could balance it, requiring two players in the attack helo? One for flying and marking/spotting and the other to fire weapon systems? It's a tough problem to resolve. Limited ammo and needing to land at a base, aircraft carrier, etc. to restock missiles, rounds, etc. might also limit their effective up-time. Love the game-play mate, keep at it!
I had rounds where the enemy attack chopper was also destroying on siege, but most of the time they lost because they only farm for kills and dont go for objectives...
Insane gameplay 🔥 I find the AH a tricky one as it's really only OP on Shanghai where there's no jets or AA to slow it down. Obviously a good pilot & gunner will still do well on other maps but you can at least tone down the r*ping that Shanghai brings 😂
@@SilkOCE farmable yes, but the utter domination of it is greatly reduced on maps like Golmud and Lancang with smart AA play and possibly a good stealth jet pilot on the other side. I've tonned on Shanghai, Dawny and Rogue but never quite managed on Golmud or Lancang.
I used to play lots of BF4 on the PS4 attack heli on siege of Shanghai was the best as dodging round the buildings and doing tricks cause the inf was to dumb to use lock on missiles was fun as good nostalgia thanks for the video
Easiest way to fix the broken attack heli? Do not let it repair midflight. Do not let it rearm midflight. Nerf ECM Cooldown by upping it a few extra seconds. Remove TV Missiles or nerf their damage. Decrease it's armour a little bit. Alternatively, add AA to the map.
Number one thing that kills me if I'm in one with a good pilot or gunner is dusting. Especially on 30Hz servers, a lot of gunner 30mms will fail to reg on enemy attack helis, as well as TVs.
I used it a lot and I fully acknowledge thermal vision is way too OP in BF4. It needed to be nerfed during the game early life cycle. Something like 2 seconds of thermal follow by 10 seconds of cooldown seems fair to me. Even in tanks I used it to see everything from hidden enemies to hidden C4 and AT mines. It was an easy exploit that should not have lasted. Hopefully they nerf it in BF6 if the game will have it.
@@SilkOCE I agree with that as well. Range nerf past 200 m. I didn't have a problem with the potential of long kill streak with a heli in BF4 since it was all skill gap related. Besides most of the people you were killing were rooftop campers. Although I didn't think unlimited ammo should have existed. Anti air weapons were abundant but of course not very effective on maps with a lot of cover like this one. Hopefully they will get it right in BF6 but we've been hopeful for a long time lol. BF1 had it worst, planes were OP and anti air was stationary. They didn't add anti air weapons for assault and support so late in the game.
honestly i both love and hate heli pilots bc one they give a challenge and two they are so fucking annoying but me and my squad figured out something the easiest way to kill a good heli pilot is with the AA mine and patience, in my team of 5 theres always a medic ammo and 3 engineers all equipped with AA mines we see a heli make him get close and boom all 3 of them place it at the same time. with enough patience we can make the heli pilot get out of the match bc his KD will go down
Usually Another thing that can help if ur far enaugh away is to just use a soflam/tlm on them , Ur essentially painting a giant target for your team labeled "shoot here" which makes them retreat most of the time if not die if u manage to lock them after they used ecm It doesnt kill them but it stops them from raping ur entire team
Impressive gunning bro. I pilot very well but have gotten out of the loop after 2 years of not playing. What are your tips for dodging TV missiles? The tradeoff is not to lose too much altitude bear in mind.
Vehicles in BF4 desperately needed nerfed, fighting any vehicle on the ground was near impossible with sound whoring and IR vision. Attack heli was even more broken though, might as well leave if someone is using it to this degree
Honestly, the attack helicopter isn't hard to counter on Shanghai. If you are familiar with the routes and movement attack helicopters take, you can wait on a building along one of those routes with a SMAW. Usually isn't too hard of a shot.
I think the scout heli is in a good place. The attack chopper is op but the average joe isn’t coming in contact with a good flight crew too often. Usually mid to beginner pilots. Even then the attack chopper can be countered but it takes a equally skilled attack helicopter or a tow. A good AA RCB can also give you a run for your money.
I do think that because the game is really old now, that a lot of what remains of the player base are the really high skill ceiling players. I remember when Battlefield 4’s life cycle was fresh it wasn’t common to see insane players breaking massive kill streaks.
I have mastered the AA to a point where only a very skilled attack jet player can kill me from the air and i can pretty much dominate the entire sky in golmud railway (except for stealth jet because you can't even hit it) and enemies usually resort to jihadi jeeps to kill me
Have you come across teams consisting mostly of players running the Dice skin that makes them invisible to thermal vision? I play in NA east coast, and you can expect 1/3 of players coming across equipped with that. Sometimes you can't tag them with Q either.
Commenting a bit late now but about the power of the chopper I would say it is a bit too much? Yeah if you're horrible at it you're going to die and any competent jet or tank player can deal with them but when you're against a really good chopper pilot they'll essentially never die all game. Especially on Dawnbreaker and Shanghai where they can hide and out manoeuvre anything even thinking about killing it. Really good jet players can still be brought down by even mediocre players but I've rarely ever seen a good chopper pilot be taken down by general players it's next to impossible to deal with them on certain maps. Especially since Shanghai doesn't give you AA too. Edit: I'm not complaining honestly I do love the chopper and it's nice doing well in it but it is insane compared to every other vehicle.
The attack heli is considered OP on siege of shanghai simply because people forget that they have LAVs, and they waste their time with lock-ons. It's very easy to TOW the attack heli on siege cause the majority of the time the pilot flies in a predictable manner. (so that his gunner can farm). 8:02 It takes a ridiculous amount of skill to TOW top-downing jets. Cosair is a really good pilot, and here he was having a hard time against rookie jets pilots. th-cam.com/video/9SjieF8GsRo/w-d-xo.html All you have to do is pull back while flying in random directions, you won't get hit by a single heli TOW.
Lavs are good to kill the heli, but if you die to it once then you'll just remember to kill the lav every time it spawns which is ez. And yes it's not that getting hit by a heli tow is common but the fact that it can deny a top down strafe so easily is pretty insane
Attack helicopters need to be susceptible to small arms fire. The average infantry is completely helpless/useless against them. But if they took some damage when I pump a 100 round lmg mag into it while it's hovering right overhead shredding my squad......it might help.
After all my friends quit BF4, all I do with the attack heli is pilot it. Better to play cautiously with a bad gunner than be nearly guaranteed to crash or charge the enemy AA with a bad pilot.
I disagree on the heli being overpowered. This map, it does really good because there's no AA and only one heli to deal with. Even then, it takes a long time to get good enough at to not get shot down. 2 man crews with comms are way more effective as well. I think it's definitely extremely powerful, as it should be, but I don't think it's overpowered. I do think it would be more balanced if it didn't kill tanks so fast, we agree there. The only problem I see is that, in its current state, it is fun to use. It won't be so fun to use, and will be a pretty boring vehicle if you can't do really well in it.
@@SilkOCE same goes on Xbox. The attack heli community was outrageously strong, I could name ten pilots who I reckon would have been near unstoppable in any other server, but in our one or two servers it was always close fighting.
Took em to the Domination Station
Gotta take em to the station
“Ahhehhhh Get to da choppa!” 🚁💣☢️
ridin' on the pain train
Ayyy, that Atili dude getting one lucky shot off and then spending the rest of the round trying to get recognition for it xd
That one shot was the only amount of testosterone that guy has ever felt, gotta let him have his bone right?
Even at the end he be like " remember my name" like he might remember your name if you did more than brag about a single kill all game
he was so fkn annoying about it lmao
no one else was able to
I know lol like no one gives a shit
I swear chopper gunner in this game is just as op as the killstreak on cod and I love it
Yeah it's absolutely fucked
Its better than the actual pilot seat
or villar perrosa in domination before they took it out of the mode in BF1
lol and they should not fix it, just add in some Raytheon Lockheed Power Armors with APS and ionizing cloud scalar rays, for something to fight back.🤪
Remember when gunner had countermeasures as well on bf3?
I thought there would be way more salt in the chat
For some reason they weren't as mad in the chat but they were all busy with the lil stingers
@@SilkOCE bet they got timed out lol
It's a wonder those rockets didn't just go through ecm like they do with me ;-;
If they brought back the 1 hit SRAW on attack choppers I think it would event things up - in 2016 it was the only way to stop AirBound and Phireball stomping everyone
That guy being big headed killing you 😂😂 well you have to give them a fighting chance right.
4:56 starts talking about how you can never miss a target with predictable movement with practice 5:02 misses transport kekw. JK just found it amusing that you missed at that time not actually throwin shade
Hahahaha yeah I realised that but yeah it is what it is
I was looking for this comment XD
Also 7:10 "Let's say aircraft are giving your team problems"
Honestly I've always thought it would've been better to give the tows to the gunner, and give the pilot lock on ground attack missiles instead
easy answer => teamwork, two engineers with stingers or igla can END the fun for helis. Even on shanghai with all the buildings, a two man commando drop on the roofs on the ennemy side can do the trick just fine. Every single time I see an attack helis with 100+ kill all i can think is "what the fck are the engineers doing ?", then I take my trusty aa boomstick and 10 min after that the heli domination is over ....
Honestly a good boat captain can end that shit on this map with a tv, or if you use the aa gun kit with passive radar you can one-shot choppers with right combo
Or one tank round
just use the tow launcher or learn to fly the chooper urself so you can contest.
In a jet its skill, Your domination of maps while fighting other jets is glorious
But in an attack chopper on Shanghai...even i've gone 170-1 before.
would you Pilot for me? (i main gunner)
@@fabinator4865 He probably is one too ;)
"265-1" imagine dying lmfao xDdddddd
Bruh 😂😂
Invert the numbers and that's me.
Meanwhile, Zavod has a mobile AA to shoot down aircraft that can't kill it back.
@@saivishwath3773 yo same
@@iPlayOnSpica zavod has a littlebird to kill armor that can't kill it back
"200 or uninstall silk" LOL
I saw it lmao
26:30 "How to report spawn campers?" this dude can't be real...
How they fix it? Simple!
Not get repaired in middle of the air
Not get rearmed in middle of the air
Maybe limited fuel to hover around
im not a fan of the bf5 rearming system, i prefer the bf4 one tbh, but i do think the attack heli is way overtuned and is way too opressive in the right hands
How dare you give them th idea to make i more realistic, like the infantry on the ground. Give me unlimited SRAW rds and ill turn the sky to spaghetti around an attack helicopter. Haha
I mean if there is someone this good in a heli none of that would matter look at planes in bf5
Look at cows in the field
@@gl3618 what are they doing out there
Mans thought he was the shit over one kill.
That dude aliti 308 bragging on that kill like it wasn’t a lucky shot and a right place right time situation. That’s what happens when someone stretches themselves out with being a bit TOO aggressive. 😂
Dude was desperately trying to get Silk’s attention lmao
Actually in real life Helicopters the US was developing in the 80's were becoming so good that the other branches of the military like the airforce stopped their development for awhile. The AH-56 Cheyenne was cancelled because the Airforce basically said it was taking away from their job. Eventually the Apache came out and was pretty good but they have realized now that the Cheyenne design was probably better.
I'm more proud of being that guy that kills these guys with an rpg tow or three times in a round and the third kill almost always causes a rage quit. I can see how you're flying nice and easy and it's not as hard to RPG helis as people think.
Yeah we definitely get killed by SMAWs often
@@SilkOCE You're alot better than the guys I see on console though and they're usually 50-4 by the end of a round, not 128-0.
When I used to play BF4 a lot, I would usually watch out for RPG’s because RPG’s are the best method of taking out the really good attack helicopters pilots imo since they can catch you off guard easily if you aren’t aware. Good pilots will always keep a keen eye out for RPG’s and dodge them if they are fired towards you.
Ending a pilots kill streak with an RPG just feels so satisfying and whenever I’m flying and I get RPG’d out of my heli, I have nothing but respect for that player.
@@lejenddairy I’m over 3000 hours I never stopped playing it, BF4 is GOAT
@@nothing2see315 yeah I definitely agree! Unfortunately on console BF4 is very outdated compared to the recent Battlefield games. I wish they would update the performance on console. But on the bright side BF2042 is coming out and if it turns out to be really good that will keep me occupied.
the timing of when you were talking about tow missles
Wait when I said TVs are easy then miss an easy shot?
@@SilkOCE yup hahaha
Honestly I love watching bf4 TH-camrs im so glad I found ur channel. You give me ravic vibes but the opposite cause he's a infantry main I think
Yeah Ravic is great at infantry and I'm glad you enjoyed! More BF4 to come :D
@@SilkOCE ooo nice I look forward to those :)
One kill for each frame of the average fps with the 3080 ;)
Amazing killstreaks man. The AH is definitely in a league of its own.
Just a sidenote worth mentioning, is that the AH really shines ALOT on Seige of Shanghai making it extremely good (I´m NOT trying to look down on you xD ) where as many/most of the other maps doesn't share the same amount of cover as this one.
Wait till my 5950x arrives :D
The AH is also definitely best on shanghai, but almost any other map can be farmed to 150+ easily. Rogue can actually be better than siege sometimes imo.
@@SilkOCE UNLIMITED POWAAAAA!!!!
AH only shines on this map because there are no other air vehicles or aa, plenty of cover too to avoid stingers tows tvs etc... However skilled heli duo's should be able to take on any map. Hanger 21 by far is the hardest map to fly on (it only has two points for cover, and is very open, + jets + stingers), but is extremely rewarding if done right. Dawnbreaker has everything but has more cover than siege, however because the jets cant access infantry they will always and only go for air vehicles. AH really comes down to the skill of the pilot, and his ability to deal with different situations.
I think having such a great large skill sealing is good, it offers long term motivation. I think it would help to reduce the damage values of the attack helis weapons. Say, you have to hit a tow and a good part of your zunis to kill another heli, or, alternatively, two consecutive tows. This would mean that you would have to be very cinsistent with your shots, again, rewarding skilled players.
Bf4 never gets old, mad flying from your pilot, pure class from the both of you
The gunner setup in the video is the best, that thermal optic lights all the infantry players up on the screen and makes finding and killing them super easy
The Viper is definitely a favorite of mine! Besides what you covered, I like the fact that you can get to and from any position very quickly. So it's fast, and hits hard at the same time. I also use it quite a bit to actually grab flags after clearing out an area; just one less thing for the team to do.
tbf im not a super big fan of the attack helis either.
they're just ridiculously good if you know where to hide with them
Yep they're definitely broken especially on SoS
I love how the moment you talk about hitting your TV rocket, it just casually missed the transport 😂🥲
4:58 perfect timing with the background footage.
Amazing man.
I just play bfv did not try the old bf
But you make my excited to try it
Good job silk 🔥
Thanks! BF4 is definitely still a fun game to come back to once in a while but I'm playing BF5 most of the time.
Just put Fliegers in BF6. They give any lvl 6 noob the ability to take down a skilled pilot with little to no learning curve.
Thank god we have lock-ons again (can't believe i'm saying this LOL)
Glad you are back in Battlefield Silk!
I think the only way to really balance the attack heli is with a nerf to flight mechanics like you mentioned and a resupply system where you don't have unlimited secondary ammo like TOWs and TVs
I like the way they implement it accept for one aspect. Midair reloading. I mis the old BF2 days when you had to hover/land at a controlled helipad to rearm. Likewise jets had to fly along the runway/carrier deck. Vehicles could only rearm from LAVs that had a LMG ammo player in them or a ammo truck at the main base. So you had to manage ammo but could resupply inBruce field all be it at a greater risk.
I could never master piloting the attack heli and left that to my mate cause I was an amazing gunner. But the scout heli was where it was at I loved causing jet mains to rage quit cause they can't shoot me down as my squad was awesome at keeping me alive as well getting kills of their own. I hope this kind of teamwork returns in bf6.
Scout is really fun too
play it on hardcore where your targets are not marked and you will find its not op at all but actually much harder to get kills with
Hardcore is lame, low health, no spotting, everyone just camps. Especially with the snipers that one shot everywhere
@@ry_an. absolute horseshit. Telling me because it's more along the lines of what it's really like it's too much? Regular mode is for the ones who can't handle not having their hands held while playing the game. If your getting sniped you probably need to stop what your doing and change it up.
@@mulisha0351 battlefield isn’t supposed to be realistic. Hardcore is boring for any one who actually likes playing the game instead of trying your best to pretend it’s real life.
Fun fact: Reinforesed Frame (15% less Explosive Damage) will let you survive a Fliegeefaust Burst
this is why Recon's PLD should stay OP
If you missed this, PLD are your saviour to assist other launchers on locking without worry about heli's flares or ECM
It’s so cool knowing that I have flown against you and have come out victorious but have died many times before learning from you
Hey I think I see you around all the time! I always enjoy trying to play the dodge tv/tow minigame in my transport heli.
You play on FPSG?
@@SilkOCE Well at the very least I recognize the IlIlIlIlIl-style name. There could be lots of them though. FPSG doesn't ring a bell. Usually TBG or turtles or whatever server is full. West coast.
@@lizardizzle I think a lot of people use this kind of name. I've never really played NA servers on battlefield
@@SilkOCE Yeah, that'd be why then! Oh well. Good gunnin'!
If you master the attack heli with your friend you are basically the God of that game that can strike anyone down.
Dude, spotting was disgusting in bf4. So glad they removed it! Can’t wait to see silk dominating in bf6
Hahahaha you bet. Can't wait to figure that game out
If i wasn't the only one pressing Q on my team i might actually rack up some kills
@Chandler Russell there already is
Would needing to go to a re-arm point like with BFV take the edge off the attack heli?
It might but I think rearm points have been proven to be a very bad concept in bf5.
In every instance it promotes players sitting back near it. E.g. dogfights often get taken back to rearm and AA interrupts, this makes people less inclined to DF.
Tanks also sit on rearm points and snipe from spawn a lot of the time. What's stopping an attack heli doing the same I guess
@@SilkOCE Fair call.
@@SilkOCE Depends on how to the rearm points are put in, having a little spot that you can just fly over , i never cared for. Having the classic BF1942 style of having a airstrip or heli pad to go land on to get out and repair while the heli is rearming was always fun. Thats part of the problem with what you showed in your gameplay footage. Infinite ammo. I hope BF6 doesnt lose its sandbox feel but gets quite larger maps. Large enough to have air strips and main bases that aircraft and vehicles set out from, but need to return to to repair and rearm. Not as much of a logistical nightmare as hell let loose, or a meatball fest as current battlefields
I know this vid Is a bit old but a few days ago my team got entirely wrecked by a attackheli playing solo swapping seats. Was the very first time I experienced it
sometimes you can smaw switchseaters
@@SilkOCE when u have the skill for it maybe yes, but I kinda suck with the launchers lol.
DID U ENJOY YOUR 3D AIMBOOSTER EXPERIENCE?
Aimbooster 3d with tv missile mod is really good imo
that feel when you do 160 kills in attack heli but you still lose the match because the other team was playing the objective
I swear to god this looks like an AC-130 attacking a tribal village with nothing but fucking sticks god damnn..
So let me get this straight... the pilot wasn’t the one gunning? I’m just blown away by the coordination between gunner and pilot. So fluid - just like real life
happy to see your gameplay again, love it
Thanks for sticking around man, more bf5 coming soon
Pilot and Gunner could balance it, requiring two players in the attack helo? One for flying and marking/spotting and the other to fire weapon systems? It's a tough problem to resolve. Limited ammo and needing to land at a base, aircraft carrier, etc. to restock missiles, rounds, etc. might also limit their effective up-time. Love the game-play mate, keep at it!
lol kinda boring for the pilot tho. Maybe a nerf to the ecm and heli weapon arsenal would be better.
I had rounds where the enemy attack chopper was also destroying on siege, but most of the time they lost because they only farm for kills and dont go for objectives...
Insane gameplay 🔥
I find the AH a tricky one as it's really only OP on Shanghai where there's no jets or AA to slow it down. Obviously a good pilot & gunner will still do well on other maps but you can at least tone down the r*ping that Shanghai brings 😂
If you fly smart though, it's very farmable on any other map though
That’s why I like snaking the attack boat and mount my AA missiles on it. People don’t realize it’s me until it’s too late. Lol
@@SilkOCE farmable yes, but the utter domination of it is greatly reduced on maps like Golmud and Lancang with smart AA play and possibly a good stealth jet pilot on the other side. I've tonned on Shanghai, Dawny and Rogue but never quite managed on Golmud or Lancang.
I love how that kid keeps bragging that he killed u 🤣 like relax bud that’s his one kill on u, anyways sick vid man! Keep it up 💯
Silk u r insane im speechless
I used to play lots of BF4 on the PS4 attack heli on siege of Shanghai was the best as dodging round the buildings and doing tricks cause the inf was to dumb to use lock on missiles was fun as
good nostalgia thanks for the video
Thanks for watching yeah lockons simply don't work they need SMAWs
Easiest way to fix the broken attack heli?
Do not let it repair midflight.
Do not let it rearm midflight.
Nerf ECM Cooldown by upping it a few extra seconds.
Remove TV Missiles or nerf their damage.
Decrease it's armour a little bit.
Alternatively, add AA to the map.
I love that as soon as the bf 2042 dropped there is more people play bf4
Number one thing that kills me if I'm in one with a good pilot or gunner is dusting. Especially on 30Hz servers, a lot of gunner 30mms will fail to reg on enemy attack helis, as well as TVs.
just found this video and holy shit i had no idea it was you in that heli, holy shit its crazy that i still remember this match
Do you have more chopper games on your channel? They're one of the rare breeds people don't love to use
Not that many I have one that's titled like "91 kills in 8 min" from ages ago
What’s the instrumental in the intro? Sounds wonderful 🔥
I really hope that bf6 is like bf4. and i agree if a good player in a vehicle can roll teams
I used it a lot and I fully acknowledge thermal vision is way too OP in BF4. It needed to be nerfed during the game early life cycle. Something like 2 seconds of thermal follow by 10 seconds of cooldown seems fair to me. Even in tanks I used it to see everything from hidden enemies to hidden C4 and AT mines. It was an easy exploit that should not have lasted. Hopefully they nerf it in BF6 if the game will have it.
I think thermal could just have the range massively reduced.
@@SilkOCE I agree with that as well. Range nerf past 200 m. I didn't have a problem with the potential of long kill streak with a heli in BF4 since it was all skill gap related. Besides most of the people you were killing were rooftop campers. Although I didn't think unlimited ammo should have existed. Anti air weapons were abundant but of course not very effective on maps with a lot of cover like this one. Hopefully they will get it right in BF6 but we've been hopeful for a long time lol. BF1 had it worst, planes were OP and anti air was stationary. They didn't add anti air weapons for assault and support so late in the game.
hey silk, your mum called and said its time to let someone else play with the aircraft.
honestly i both love and hate heli pilots bc one they give a challenge and two they are so fucking annoying but me and my squad figured out something
the easiest way to kill a good heli pilot is with the AA mine and patience, in my team of 5 theres always a medic ammo and 3 engineers all equipped with AA mines we see a heli make him get close and boom all 3 of them place it at the same time. with enough patience we can make the heli pilot get out of the match bc his KD will go down
Usually Another thing that can help if ur far enaugh away is to just use a soflam/tlm on them , Ur essentially painting a giant target for your team labeled "shoot here" which makes them retreat most of the time if not die if u manage to lock them after they used ecm
It doesnt kill them but it stops them from raping ur entire team
I think implementing bf5s refill ammo system would help balance. The reload on those guns are crazy.
Impressive gunning bro. I pilot very well but have gotten out of the loop after 2 years of not playing. What are your tips for dodging TV missiles? The tradeoff is not to lose too much altitude bear in mind.
Another awesome video, I love it keep up the awesome work!!!👌
Vehicles in BF4 desperately needed nerfed, fighting any vehicle on the ground was near impossible with sound whoring and IR vision. Attack heli was even more broken though, might as well leave if someone is using it to this degree
Well its because your team isn't using engineer the right why and your team sucks in vechales
Honestly, the attack helicopter isn't hard to counter on Shanghai. If you are familiar with the routes and movement attack helicopters take, you can wait on a building along one of those routes with a SMAW. Usually isn't too hard of a shot.
Wow!!! Really amazing, do u use joystick?
Ever heard of fearless mantis ? Was a gun I used to run with along time ago. Best scout pilot I've ever seen
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I'd be hella mad lol it takes a whole damn team to stop that chopper
I have come across normal-player many times during my games and he is an absolute machine in any vehicle (especially jets)
I think the scout heli is in a good place. The attack chopper is op but the average joe isn’t coming in contact with a good flight crew too often. Usually mid to beginner pilots. Even then the attack chopper can be countered but it takes a equally skilled attack helicopter or a tow. A good AA RCB can also give you a run for your money.
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I do think that because the game is really old now, that a lot of what remains of the player base are the really high skill ceiling players. I remember when Battlefield 4’s life cycle was fresh it wasn’t common to see insane players breaking massive kill streaks.
I'm surprised nobody busted out the iglas. As soon as I die by heli, I make it my job to destroy them and ruin their match 😂
Heli Gunner seat or 1960s black and white TV? You decide
Not wrong
Normal player is such an insane player, there is nothing that man can't fly or drive and top leaderboards in
True farmer
This is why I play locker
I have mastered the AA to a point where only a very skilled attack jet player can kill me from the air and i can pretty much dominate the entire sky in golmud railway (except for stealth jet because you can't even hit it) and enemies usually resort to jihadi jeeps to kill me
Have you come across teams consisting mostly of players running the Dice skin that makes them invisible to thermal vision? I play in NA east coast, and you can expect 1/3 of players coming across equipped with that. Sometimes you can't tag them with Q either.
LOL sometimes half of OCE is running that skin
This Is why Shangai needs an AA vehicle even with 20 engineers with iglas AND stingers a good Heli Pilot does this.
Commenting a bit late now but about the power of the chopper I would say it is a bit too much?
Yeah if you're horrible at it you're going to die and any competent jet or tank player can deal with them but when you're against a really good chopper pilot they'll essentially never die all game. Especially on Dawnbreaker and Shanghai where they can hide and out manoeuvre anything even thinking about killing it.
Really good jet players can still be brought down by even mediocre players but I've rarely ever seen a good chopper pilot be taken down by general players it's next to impossible to deal with them on certain maps. Especially since Shanghai doesn't give you AA too.
Edit: I'm not complaining honestly I do love the chopper and it's nice doing well in it but it is insane compared to every other vehicle.
Yes it's op for sure
I have actually managed to take down a heli by jumping my vehicle into it. Then the guy spent the next match hunting me down 😂.
The attack heli is considered OP on siege of shanghai simply because people forget that they have LAVs, and they waste their time with lock-ons. It's very easy to TOW the attack heli on siege cause the majority of the time the pilot flies in a predictable manner. (so that his gunner can farm).
8:02 It takes a ridiculous amount of skill to TOW top-downing jets. Cosair is a really good pilot, and here he was having a hard time against rookie jets pilots. th-cam.com/video/9SjieF8GsRo/w-d-xo.html
All you have to do is pull back while flying in random directions, you won't get hit by a single heli TOW.
Lavs are good to kill the heli, but if you die to it once then you'll just remember to kill the lav every time it spawns which is ez. And yes it's not that getting hit by a heli tow is common but the fact that it can deny a top down strafe so easily is pretty insane
I hate the AC on Shanghai, there's no default anti-air, and spamming Iglas or stingers is pointless when pilots seat switch. Nice vid.
Silk is an amazing player, but you'll never convince me helicopters aren't way overpowered in this game.
“Tight bars little man”
Attack helicopters need to be susceptible to small arms fire. The average infantry is completely helpless/useless against them. But if they took some damage when I pump a 100 round lmg mag into it while it's hovering right overhead shredding my squad......it might help.
that aliti were salty af lol
Very cool if I do say so myself, also the chat seems filled with absolutely great people
is there footage from normal-player's pov? their moves were crazy!
Not from this game but I'm uploading a huge siege game with a different pilot soon
@@SilkOCE awesome. Looking forward to it!
1:18 ??? someone explain
I run fire extinguisher so when we get disabled I hop into pilot seat and put out the fire
That's ridiculous. You utter beast
Cheers man
We need more pilots like you in real life
After all my friends quit BF4, all I do with the attack heli is pilot it. Better to play cautiously with a bad gunner than be nearly guaranteed to crash or charge the enemy AA with a bad pilot.
I disagree on the heli being overpowered. This map, it does really good because there's no AA and only one heli to deal with. Even then, it takes a long time to get good enough at to not get shot down. 2 man crews with comms are way more effective as well. I think it's definitely extremely powerful, as it should be, but I don't think it's overpowered.
I do think it would be more balanced if it didn't kill tanks so fast, we agree there.
The only problem I see is that, in its current state, it is fun to use. It won't be so fun to use, and will be a pretty boring vehicle if you can't do really well in it.
What internet do you have? and what PC?
shanghai needed an maa to slow these heli killstreaks
23:30 true
:)
Spy has a bit of a point here though. We are all forced into the same server, there's absolutely no cherry picking like NA, you just gotta git gud.
@@SilkOCE same goes on Xbox. The attack heli community was outrageously strong, I could name ten pilots who I reckon would have been near unstoppable in any other server, but in our one or two servers it was always close fighting.