Prowler Miles isn't a villain, he's a vigilante. Rewatch the entire earth 42 sequence. There's a lot of foreshadowing for other villains. Arron loved his brother and he wouldn't turn Miles into a villain to honor him. Plus his spider sense didn't go off.
I was kind of thinking whatever mission Aaron was asking miles about (I think it was made to sound like a robbery?) might be something like them going there because they know it’s where the sinister 6 will be and they’re actually going to stop them.
I'll need to watch again, but remember this isn't our Aaron or Miles. It's not like 1610 and 42 have a shared history and then the timeline split. They're completely different universes, as different as 616 or 67. Aaron-1610 loved his brother. Aaron-42? We don't know, but anything's possible. My personal theory is that Aaron is the Kingpin. He gave up his Prowler moniker, that makes me think he has a new one. I suspect Fisk killed Jefferson, and so Aaron killed Fisk and took over as the new Kingpin, raising Miles as the new Prowler.
New rockstar did a video on Earth 42. Check it out. But to me this movie spins the narrative that Miles is to blame for everything going wrong the next movie has to correct this.
I have a theory that all the spider society is actually Miguel covering up his mistake, he did the daughter thing, broke the universe, and he has been trying to patch it up for years, but the problems keep escalating, he needs more help, so he recruits more people, and all of it is to fix his one big mistake.
Maybe. Like he pointed out in the video though, you see effects very similar to a collider explosion during the backstory sequence, so it's possible that universe was going to be destroyed anyway, and Miguel simply misread the situation as being his fault.
I think the truth is Miguel Is an anatomy because he isn’t even a real Spider-Man he didn’t get bit by a spider he got powers thru an explosion and he doesn’t even have webs or anything like that I don’t think he even has spider sense as he couldn’t sense that vulture was gonna blast him miles was gonna blast him
Oh so when Miguel breaks a canon event, it's his mistake, but when Miles does it, he is "finding his path"? I'm not a miles hater, but I definitely understand where Miguel is coming from.
I saw new rockstars theorize that Miles G and Aaron might not necessarily be evil or villians, but gritty heroes in a world ran by villians. i think this is interesting.
Would be an interesting twist, and also possibly resolve that conflict without using up too much screen time so that more time can be given to resolving the waring sides in Spider Society and The Spot.
I agree, especially when you see the Sinister Six Cartel run New York. I imagine Miles here has the same role as the Tinkerer in the Miles Morales game. Turns bad and does bad things to pick away at and take down an unnecessary evil.
I think it’d be really cool if Prowler Miles joins Miles and the Web Warriors. Since we have now seen a villain take on Miles and Peter, I wanna see Gwen as one of the Sinister Six. In one universe she becomes Green Goblin. She also has been Carnage in the Dawn of the clone saga, if memory serves correct. She has also been Gwenom that served the Matt Murdock of her universe. She has a multitude of Gwen Stacy-Spider-Man villain clone hybrids in her newest run. There is a bunch of villains they could make her and fighting her could have such an impact on Miles who is currently pissed at her.
Prowler Miles literally says “no YOUR dad is going to die.” He very quickly accepted the fact that people in different universes aren’t the same person.
Which is 100% correct. They're not the same person or people. The Bad Guys are Fisk, Wanda and Miguel who believed they can just come in and steal the lives of their Multiversal counterparts. It doesn't end well and is inherently unethical. They're in separate realities living a different kind of life for a reason! Be it for the better or for the worse they're NOT the ones you love. Unless they're knowledgeable about the Multiverse and are Consenting to a Relationship...That isn't theft but cooperation at that point.
The thing with Miguel is, that wasn't his family. Miguel hasn't had to make a sacrifice as Spider-Man. It was a tragedy to him, but if he wasn't there as he shouldn't have been. He still would've been Spider-Man. Also, this Miguel is still addicted to Rapture.
Miles makes me love being black and speaking Spanish so much !Hes such good representation for black and Latino people. His Jordan’s , where’s he’s from, his family , everything. I got chills from every part of the movie. And the end when he met himself ( with a Puerto Rican accent jaja) it was so fire. Love him so much ! Best multiverse movie and I love Wanda lol.
I think that a lot of us are thinking that earth-42 Peter was supposed to get bit, but from the flashback we saw that it was going for earth-42 Miles. The films show that the spider sense is attuned with the multiverse somehow (Gwen knowing that Miles was in the wrong universe) and spider people can literally sense who else had spider powers via a feeling. Once it was captured, It didn’t bite the scientists that captured it. And once it broke out of containment, I’m sure that if the spider was going after Peter, it could have found him. Instead, the spider seemed to really have gone out of its way to bite 1610 Miles in the first film as it knew it had to bite A Miles, it just ended up biting the one of the wrong universe.
Yup - it's an extended metaphor for how kids in RL can grow up to be model citizens or criminals depending on the people and environment around them. Miles-42 has an unstable family, bad role models and a city full of crime, so it's more likely for him to break bad.
What flashback showed the spider going for Miles in 42? They flashed back to other Miles getting bit but I don't remember seeing Miles in 42 at all until the end.
Yeah it was pretty cool how he kinda told miles how to break out of the force field prison by reminding him to use his palms and not fingers guess he really didn’t believe in authority
So if the Miles of Earth 42 was supposed to become spider man, then was the Earth 1610 Miles supposed to have his dad die and become the Prowler. In other words, were the events supposed to happen in the opposite universe, and then they did?
I highly doubt it. Not only does Earth 42 not have a Spiderman like our Miles universe did which is why it became a wasteland. The fact that the same number that is on the spider is hidden throughout the first movie multiple times before it even bit Miles, it leads me to believe our Miles was always supposed to be bit.
@A GTL I don't think so because it seems to be that every universe can only have 1 spider man and Peter Parker. "Blonde/Chase" Edition was the Spiderman of Earth 1610
No, if the spider never left Earth 42 then both Earth 42 and Earth 1610 would have spider man’s in them and would be safe. Miles on Earth 1610 wouldn’t turn into the prowler as his dad wouldn’t die fighting crime (as the blonde haired Spider-Man would still be alive).
Saw this movie last night with my dad, And I said "This is the best Multiverse movie I've seen since MultiVerse of Madness" Also who loved it when Spider Man 2099 named droped Dr Strange?
Multiverse Of Madness only disappointed me because it seemed like they just used Doctor Strange title to get views. It was as more like a Scarlet Witch movie
@I’m not blind but I love blindfolds my gripe with that movie is I feel they forced to many horror themes, without making it a horror film. So it seemed awkward
@I’m not blind but I love blindfolds my gripe with that movie is I feel they forced to many horror themes, without making it a horror film. So it seemed awkward
I actually think alt Miles and Miguel parallel each other. They are both well-intentioned extremists who try to do the right thing but use questionable tactics.
I bet alternate miles is going to have a brief altercation with our miles but then they will find common ground. And alternate miles might die saving our miles from spot. Or our Miles might find a way to get the 42 spider and give alternate miles the dna to restore the timeline. There was a part in the movie where Miles noticed the deceased spider 42 sitting in Spots apartment and I know thats some type of forshadowing
There are no "Timelines" in this movie, they both just switched destinies. The Spider from Earth-42 is dead, getting it and doing something to it won't do anything for Earth-42 Miles.
@@windghost2 the timelines are the parallel realities with different outcomes. The alternate reality is supposed to have a spider man but there isn’t, instead there was a timeline w both peter and miles as spiderman which is why peter died. My original thought was if Miles got alternate miles to become spiderman that would restore his destiny and stop the damage caused by miles being an anomaly. I no longer believe this tho
What I’d like to know is how our Miles can even HAVE a canon event.. when he wasn’t supposed to be Spider-Man to begin with!? Some serious holes in 2099’s story here.. excited to see how it plays out!
I think one thing that is being overlooked with Miguel (2099 Spidey) is his need to feed. It’s very subtle and not really touched on but he is stopped by the helicopter in the air when he’s about to bite Vulture and then when Miles walks in on him, we see him taking an injectable serum. Miles states that Miguel doesn’t sound like a Spiderman and I think this is going to come to the fore front in the final film. I think Miguel will miss a dose or will give in to his stress and bite someone. Could be Miles, could be alter Miles but Miguel isn’t ‘just some regimented Spiderman’ he has a very serious hunger and it’s going to come out.
I think that was drugs. He was having withdrawals. Certain drugs can cause someone to be a control freak. And rupture might be a super advanced version of those drugs
Miguel is different from the other Spider-Man as his story is not the same he didn’t get bit by a spider.he was addicted to drugs in a company and tried to cure his addicted with a chemical.his boss blew up the lab with Miguel in it and all the chemicals changed Miguel’s dna.making him like a spider vampire.
I storngly believe everyone is going to be distracted with Miles' Dad, Spot, Prowler Miles, Team Gwen VS Team Miguel that i feel like somehow Miles' mom might be the one to die just like in the comics. Just theorizing of course
Nah... I think Miles saves everyone saying F the cannon... we make our own way. He's been saying it for two movies now and that's the theme. Creating his own path. He already lost his Uncle what more suffering should he endure. It's equivalent to losing Uncle Ben.
@@viclavar9298it’s a spider-man movie bro lol they can’t save everyone…remember that they will need to add some sadness in the movie somebody will definitely die.the mom is kinda playing an uncle ben role giving miles a lot of life advice so she possibly might die.
@@princebealalthe3rd732 Somebody already did die. Miles already suffered a loss with his uncle. I think if someone dies it will be Spidey 2099 sacrificing himself for being so wrong about everything.
These have been the best big-screen comic book adaptations I've ever seen. I know "Beyond" is going to be incredible. I just want more Sun Spider please!!!!
Can anyone explain how Spot knows exactly that Miles’ dad is Jeff? He wants to eliminate everything Miles loves but i’m just wondering how he knows who Miles’ dad is.
I think The Spot really don't know the connection of Jeff and Spiderman except that Spiderman cares for him more so he is on the quest of hurting anyone who is close to Spiderman's heart
The main problem w Miguel Ohara actual theory is gwen left to team with him vausing her dad not to be captain... these rvents happened because they become captain signaling their death. Now technically miguel caused another anamoly in which should have destroyed her universe. So he is wrong. His dad doesnt need to die. And what if the time line where the prowler miles was the dad they saw that was supposed to die. Since his spider alone was linked to earth 42....
You know what I don't get? In the first movie, the others said that Aaron dying was Miles's one big tragedy. Now suddenly, it ALSO has to be someone else close to him?
The chief of the police department always has to die it’s a canon event and Miles dad is the chief of the police department which is why Gwen was happy when her dad told her that he quit it has nothing to do with him being miles dad just that he is chief and he needs to die unless he quits (which he won’t)
Uncle Ben wasn’t a police chief tho…jus a major figure in Peter’s life. I thought his (meaning Miles’) uncle passin was that too tho…🤷🏾♂️ But…comic book movies…lol 🤷🏾♂️
@@marcrichardson517He also wasn't peters dad on a police force 😅. I think they are both the canon events. Just like one happens to one and not the other. Like uncle Ben dies and maybe Peter's dad would have been on the force and became captain and died, but he doesn't have parents so. Or maybe it different cuz he's miles and not a peter. Hell idk I wanna know forreal now to 😅
Also…in the Toby verse (yeah…I’m callin it that…lol 🤷🏾♂️)…what police chief even died?!? & should THEY have been a Spider Man?!? Yeah…answers are needed on this theory…lol 🤷🏾♂️
I still think that madame web should make an appearance in beyond the multiverse because she made more if an impact of either helping or changing some of spiderman's destiny.
I think Miguel is sort of like Rick from Rick and Morty limiting them to a certain part of the multiverse aka the Spiderverse where their sacrifice connects them through what he calls “canon events” when evil Morty escapes the part of the multiverse where Rick is a genius and he’s an idiot he’s going beyond that multiverse. I think beyond the Spiderverse will be going beyond the limited part of the multiverse where they lose someone to become Spider-Man. Maybe Miguel needs these spidermen to lose someone to create the network of the Spiderverse so he can use that as a cover to find universes where his wife and daughter exist because he couldn’t travel to them without their DNA routing them to their universe
I thought that the spider from Earth 42 was supposed to bite that universe's Peter. Miles is an anomaly because, like Gwen, he's the only other version of himself that's a Spider-man. Universe's 42 is in such dissaray because there was no Peter to ever become Spider-man
Nah, the Spot's flashback of taking the spider for the test, shows the spider crawling towards e42 miles. You can tell cause of the same dreads, and the spider was in visions academy.
Same. I don't believe Miles saving the police chief in Pravitr's dimension is what caused it to collapse. It was ALREADY collapsing because the spot was just there. I think Miguel might have jumped to conclusions a bit. Hopefully not out right lying.
Looking forwrd to seeing the characters in Live action on Beyond. I think theh take the "cop out" and just use the voice actors as their initial counterparts. Rarher than recast someone they'd use in a Live action movie.
I would prefer if Miles wasn't supposed to be Spider-man in 42. Like in the multiverse, he is the only Miles that is Spider-man, to make him more of an anomaly. He probably will since they do show 42 Miles when Spot is talking about the spider, but I really hope we get to see an evil Peter Parker there too, like he is the "Legit" business' man scientific Kingpin, so they each get a evil them to fight.
This is how I understood things as well. Not that the 42 spider was suppose to go to Miles but that not only is Miles an anomoly that he got a spider from another universe but that he is an anomoly because there is not supposed to be a Miles Spiderman in any universe. Like he most likely was meant to become The Prowler or something.
@@phamtomK9exactly, i was about to comment that i understood it just like you, don't get why most think it was miles the one supossed to become spiderman. he is an anomaly, it wouldn't make any sense
When miles meet spider-man and there spider sense trigger the background behind miles it was prowlers color scheme then it turn to spider-man color signifying the change of fate
But, he [Miles G.] wasn't supposed to get bit. If he was and that was a "canon event" his universe would of collapsed. It didn't, meaning he was always going to become the Prowler there. If it didn't get sucked out of his universe, Miles G. probably would have noticed and squished the spider before getting bit LoL. But again, as the movie insists cannon events must happen or the universe collapses and 42 wasn't collapsing, he is meant to become the Prowler there.
@@viclavar9298 I'm using only what the movie says. They spent 2 hours telling us they do, so we are supposed to believe they do. Otherwise it's bad storytelling LoL.
@@philipjay2099 not bad storytelling, maybe biased storytelling, or a biased narrator - miguel could either be lying about the canon events and what leads to the universe collapsing or he actually doesnt know and has been acting on this misinfo the entire time
I kinda wish that Miles was the only Miles Spider-Man, that's how I interrupted it, that the spider was supposed to bite Peter Parker but jumped universes and bit miles. Very brilliant movie!
My theory is the prowler is the hero of that universe without spiderman that why the mom talking to Mile in that manner was pure belief she already know her son is prowler.
I think Miguel is sort of like Rick from Rick and Morty limiting them to a certain part of the multiverse aka the Spiderverse where their sacrifice connects them through what he calls “canon events” when evil Morty escapes the part of the multiverse where Rick is a genius and he’s an idiot he’s going beyond that multiverse. I think beyond the Spiderverse will be going beyond the limited part of the multiverse where they lose someone to become Spider-Man. Maybe Miguel needs these spidermen to lose someone to create the network of the Spiderverse so he can use that as a cover to find universes where his wife and daughter exist because he couldn’t travel to them without their DNA routing them to their universe
@@Stonecoldinsummer any universe including a spider? They said this in comics. The beyonder’s home world is outside the multiverse The spot universe is outside the multiverse. The utopian parallel is outside the multiverse Detective comics is outside the multiverse. The weaver is outside the multiverse
5:30 Evil Miles might get a watch from one of the spiders during a fight. But then the spiders will just deny him access. Like what happened to Gwen. She can travel now because Hobart was stealing little bits of tech from Miguel and building his own watches. Earth-42 doesn’t have that level of tech, so Prowler miles won’t be able to build his own watches. So that theory seems dead on arrival.
I don't think they specified that Miles would become Spider-Man in Earth 42, Miguel says the spider wasn't meant for Miles in Earth 1610 because it was from 42, so it's very possible that Earth 42 has a Peter that was supposed to get bit and evil Miles still probably wouldn't have happened.
I think you got one plot point slightly mixed up. Maybe there was some blink-and-you-miss-it dialogue that contradicts this, but my takeaway is that the spider that bit Miles was supposed to have bitten Universe 42's Peter Parker, not Miles like you said (a few times) in this video. That's why Spiderman never existed there; because the spider that was meant to bite him was pulled into Miles's universe instead.
Yeah I agree with you. I think that 1610 Miles was not supposed to be a spider man. Him becoming spiderman required 1610 peter parker to die to correct this.
I think the anomaly and canon event thing here are totally unrelated. They said Miguel's universe was destroyed because he took the place of another universe's version of himself. At the end of the What If series, the Watcher took the Black Widow from the universe where Ultron won and let her stay in a universe where their Black Widow died. If replacing your dead self in another universe would be such an issue, wouldn't the Watcher of all people know what would happen?
Has anyone considered that if Spider 42 stayed where it was meant to and gave powers to Miles 42, that he likely would have still become a bad guy? Earth 42 had no Peter Parker Spiderman, so there was no Spiderman before Miles for that Miles to look up to. He might have become a Spiderman but he would have still been influenced by his Uncle Aaron and instead of becoming the Prowler he would have just become an evil Spiderman.
Voss had a cool theory. We don’t know if Miles G is bad yet. He could just be tryna get by outside the law in that universe. And with how unruly it is and the “sinister six cartel” running things he might actually be a good guy
On rewatch Miles from Earth 42 is NOT a bad guy, but a vigilante. His dad was ki!led in his universe and leaving him with no Spider-Man turned Miles-42 into a Batman figure dishing out his brand of justice.
The only downside I can see coming from this movie…now the creative team HAS to stick the landing. After the first two movies being critically and audience acclaimed outings, the pressure is immense. I think they will nail it though. Part three is just a continuation of the second movie and has to already be planned out and maybe even finished. They just have to keep it under wraps until next year. The minds behind the Spiderverse haven’t given us any reason to doubt them thus far.
i mean a lot of this film was set up for the next one and it was still insane. i think the third one will undoubtedly be the absolute best of the trilogy
What I wonder, is if Miles being bitten was an anomoly to begin with, then who's to say that Jefferson Davis is destined to die? Surely that would mean that the universe Miles is from has accepted Miles as NOT being an anomoly for him to have canon events too? Otherwise then Jeff might be completely fine. Plus Gwen's dad resigns before she can have the police captain death canon event so either that means it was never going to happen for her OR Miguel himself causes an anomoly and diverted her canon event by ever showing up into her life.
@@1LowkeyMF I have a theory that she was the one to allow our miles to get the powers viewing him as more worthy than 42 miles Yes Kingpin was the one that resulted the spider coming but she let it all unfold instead of getting involved
@@MegaMaster1021 I like tht theory and since the next movie is BEYOND the spider verse, madam Webb knows the beyonder so who knows maybe we see one or both of them
I am in awe of the stunning beauty this movie has. One thing I also want to point out SPOILER ALEET: Miguel keeps telling Miles he is the anomaly but 1. Didn’t literally create an anomaly to get his family. 2. If Kingpin from Miles’s universe hadn’t had created the first multiverse blip along with the Spit bringing in spider 42 miles wouldn’t have been bit or went back to the subway that lead to Parker’s death. 3. Universe 42 may not have. Spider-Man but it wasn’t miles fault he isn’t an anamoly eventually Peter A would have retired and eventually Miles would have been bitten. I really feel for our miles but it’s going to make it so much sweeter when he realizes his full worth and potential and Miguel realizes he was the wrong one the whole time and the spot created himself. Making a spiderman club should literally be a blip in the timeline your meddling with the multiverse
did it say in the movie that the spider was meant for evil miles? because i thought the movie said that spider man in evil miles died because he didnt have powers
Curious why you assume Miles from Dimension 42 was supposed to be Spider-Man and not Peter Parker from that dimension. I would've thought PP becomes Spider-Man and creates a timeline where Uncle Aaron still becomes Prowler.
Sooo, since the theme of this movie was kind of a fate vs. Free will Story, I would be honestly surprised, if Miguel ends up being right about the spiderverse and canon events. I think, the next movie will reveal that canon events don't have to happen. Or, more likely, the canon event doesn't have to happen, just a canon event has to. Maybe, as long as the spiderman of the univeverse prevents it, it wont collapse. Like Gwens. I think her Dad should have died in the museum but, because of her action, he didn't. Instead, she revealed her identity to him, creating an altered canon event. They fought and later reconsiled, making her grow as a Spiderwoman. Thus a canon event. Peter B. or Miguel did say that Canon Events don't have to be negativ. Like every Spieder(wo)man finding their MJ, Gwen, Peter, Miles etc. Similarly I pretty sure that the Spidergang will safe Miles Dad, maybe his Mother will be in danger at the same time safed by 42 Miles, ending in 1610 Miles revealing to his parents his identity. Which than brings the whole family story full circle and, in them accepting and still loving him make him finally leaving the duality of SpidermanXMiles behind and by that creating an alternate Canonevent. Or they all just die. Who knows at this point😂
what about Gwen's cannon event . what I think is Gwen's cannon event was disabled because she went with Miguel to the spider society caused her father to quit his job which means Gwen's dad won't die. that's when Gwen knew that their story didn't have to go that way so she helped miles
Correct me if I'm wrong, but we don't know that Prowler Miles was supposed to become Spiderman in Earth 42 (at least within the Spiderverse), it could have been Peter Parker-42 or someone else entirely.
If you compare Spider-Man: No Way Home to Spiderman Across The Spider-Verse. There are actually bit similarity in story telling with characters. For Example, Dr.Strange tries to protects the reality by stopping villains from Multiverse and also fights Tom's Spiderman. In across the spider verse Miguel O Hara tries to stop miles and also be will try to protect realities in the Web of Life and Destiny which is very similar to Dr.strange character arc
I believe that Earth-42 Miles is not like any Prowler that is a villain, he's more likely a vigilante. More likely he became the Prowler because he discovered his Uncle Aaron's secret and maybe his father was killed while saving someone and he ask his Uncle to train him so that he can hunt down who's responsible to his fathers death and thus he became a vigilante
I think prowler miles will first pose as OG Miles once he meets Gwen’s team and pretend until he can get close enough to kill one of them for their bracelet (my money is on either spider punk or India) and then use it to try and save his alter dad.
I'm convinced they leave little intentional mistakes in these vids. For instance, calling the Tinkerer "The Thinker" to drive up the number of comments. (Because people can't help correcting others) touché worked on me.
Maybe incursions can be thought of like bad ideas damaging the belief of the viewer on the universe they are witnessing. When so many different writers make different choices that doesnt follow a very believable line of thought, then different ideas start to forceably take over or an incursion. This will damage or break the reality that the viewer's need. If less people believe then less people watch, then they cant make their next movie/game/idea/universe.
There was the scene of the Universe 42 Spider about to bite Universe 42 Miles when Johnny Ohnn (aka Johnny 'ohnn' the Spot) teleported it to Miles Morales universe. If you included that clip, it would've been perfect
Interesting we are getting this and the flash both dealing with parents Having to pass away to save the universes or incursions etc happen, I love it and ive loved both movies!
Now, it makes sense why Miles got bitten by the spider because it was about to choose the Earth 42 variant. The spider didn't realize it was in a different universe.
This endin…was SOOOO dope!!! Miles meetin him, Gwen comin 2 get him w/the old team AND Miguel still lookin 4 him w/Spot STILL on his mission?!? MAN…can’t wait til 2026…lol 🤷🏾♂️
Is Gwen Wrong?? an absolute point takes place even when whatever is done differently, as shown in 'What If' Doctor Strange episode. Christine Palmer died in every scenario, even though doctor strange made different choices. HERE TOO Captain Stacy made different choice, will that save him?? Could miles father be saved?? And why was Miguel O'Hara hesitant to onboard Gwen to his team??
I dont think miles from earth 42 is as evil as we thought he might be, but a bait to make us think he is. The reason i think this is the fact that 42 miles' father is dead, now how or who killed is a mystery, but in the background you can hear jj talk about the sinister 6 cartel and that may be the reason why jeff is dead because we know he wouldnt stand to let villains get away with it. With jeff dead, miles of 42 becomes the prowler with his uncle aiding him in getting revenge.
I think miles's prowler is going to be like batman esque character, fightining criminals at night and finding ways to take care of the cartel. Would makes sense, because the first thing he ask's is whether miles 1610 father is alive?
Your the first TH-camrs to highlight how the canon events and absolute events are pretty much the same. I think that Miguel is gonna do the same as Supreme strange
Maybe this is all in the timeline. Similar to Loki looking for who's in charge but not realizing he's only been a pawn in the grand scheme of things. Had miles not known about the multiverse, the death of his dad would of made him quit being spiderman?...
That’s actually how it happened in the comics, one earth was destroyed before it was supposed to be, and it’s set up a chain reaction which led to the collapse of the Multiverse.
I think that miles is going to be stuck in 42 and the new crew is going to team up to fight prowler (potentially the others, remember the radio was talking about a cartel or whatever I can't remember.) Evil miles will fight against miles and the other spider "band" who come in to help miles, but I think because miles knows himself best... He is somehow going to convince the prowler miles to help and turn into the hero of 42. I would imagine this is don't by Aaron dying once again; making this evil miles uncle death and although he wasn't bitten, he is still supposed to be the hero.
Maybe Miguel is so hell-bent on stopping miles because his universe is a central part of a branch of the spider verse, meaning that if his specifically goes down then it totally destabilizes the whole web because of where it is specifically located within it.
You keep saying that Miles Morales of earth 42 was supposed to be Spider-Man, but Miguel O’Hara said it was supposed to be a Peter Parker. I’m not sure how either one of you could know.
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3:27 “not to throw shade”? what’s are you, a drag queen? a black woman? chill out.
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Hi Screecrush, can you make theories what happened Kang decide attack Spider Verse
3rd movie is entitled Beyond the Spiderverse. 5:05
you spelt miles wrong
rewatching the first movie is soooo much more enjoyable knowing how much is actually subtly being foreshadowed
they didnt foreshadow anything, they went back and retconned the new story into fitting into the original one
@@patwalsh1045 tomato tomoto
@@patwalsh1045 you could say that about anything ever then
@@patwalsh1045 mix of both
@@patwalsh1045ok so what about the spider that bit miles being glitchy
Prowler Miles isn't a villain, he's a vigilante. Rewatch the entire earth 42 sequence. There's a lot of foreshadowing for other villains. Arron loved his brother and he wouldn't turn Miles into a villain to honor him. Plus his spider sense didn't go off.
I was kind of thinking whatever mission Aaron was asking miles about (I think it was made to sound like a robbery?) might be something like them going there because they know it’s where the sinister 6 will be and they’re actually going to stop them.
I'll need to watch again, but remember this isn't our Aaron or Miles. It's not like 1610 and 42 have a shared history and then the timeline split. They're completely different universes, as different as 616 or 67. Aaron-1610 loved his brother. Aaron-42? We don't know, but anything's possible.
My personal theory is that Aaron is the Kingpin. He gave up his Prowler moniker, that makes me think he has a new one. I suspect Fisk killed Jefferson, and so Aaron killed Fisk and took over as the new Kingpin, raising Miles as the new Prowler.
@@davidbjacobs3598 Also a solid theory. So many possibilities.
New rockstar did a video on Earth 42. Check it out. But to me this movie spins the narrative that Miles is to blame for everything going wrong the next movie has to correct this.
Still kinda weird that Gangsta Miles kinda looks like he has gone breaking bad though
I have a theory that all the spider society is actually Miguel covering up his mistake, he did the daughter thing, broke the universe, and he has been trying to patch it up for years, but the problems keep escalating, he needs more help, so he recruits more people, and all of it is to fix his one big mistake.
Maybe. Like he pointed out in the video though, you see effects very similar to a collider explosion during the backstory sequence, so it's possible that universe was going to be destroyed anyway, and Miguel simply misread the situation as being his fault.
Nah Miguel only duck up was try a be happy
I think the truth is Miguel Is an anatomy because he isn’t even a real Spider-Man he didn’t get bit by a spider he got powers thru an explosion and he doesn’t even have webs or anything like that I don’t think he even has spider sense as he couldn’t sense that vulture was gonna blast him miles was gonna blast him
Came up with the same thing - his hatred of Miles being the original anomaly messing everything up seems like some _pretty_ hard projecting.
Oh so when Miguel breaks a canon event, it's his mistake, but when Miles does it, he is "finding his path"? I'm not a miles hater, but I definitely understand where Miguel is coming from.
I saw new rockstars theorize that Miles G and Aaron might not necessarily be evil or villians, but gritty heroes in a world ran by villians. i think this is interesting.
An interesting theory, seeing as Earth-42 miles was supposed to be spiderman
There are hints of this in the colors of Earth - 42, including the fact that NY is subject to a curfew presumably subject to martial law.
Would be an interesting twist, and also possibly resolve that conflict without using up too much screen time so that more time can be given to resolving the waring sides in Spider Society and The Spot.
I agree, especially when you see the Sinister Six Cartel run New York. I imagine Miles here has the same role as the Tinkerer in the Miles Morales game. Turns bad and does bad things to pick away at and take down an unnecessary evil.
I think it’d be really cool if Prowler Miles joins Miles and the Web Warriors. Since we have now seen a villain take on Miles and Peter, I wanna see Gwen as one of the Sinister Six. In one universe she becomes Green Goblin. She also has been Carnage in the Dawn of the clone saga, if memory serves correct. She has also been Gwenom that served the Matt Murdock of her universe. She has a multitude of Gwen Stacy-Spider-Man villain clone hybrids in her newest run. There is a bunch of villains they could make her and fighting her could have such an impact on Miles who is currently pissed at her.
Prowler Miles literally says “no YOUR dad is going to die.” He very quickly accepted the fact that people in different universes aren’t the same person.
Yeah, I feel like Prowler Miles already sees the stark difference between the two of them.
Which is 100% correct. They're not the same person or people. The Bad Guys are Fisk, Wanda and Miguel who believed they can just come in and steal the lives of their Multiversal counterparts. It doesn't end well and is inherently unethical. They're in separate realities living a different kind of life for a reason! Be it for the better or for the worse they're NOT the ones you love. Unless they're knowledgeable about the Multiverse and are Consenting to a Relationship...That isn't theft but cooperation at that point.
@@flamesofchaos13Miguel stole life?
@@flamesofchaos13 Miguel didn't really steal his counterparts life, he was already dead so he just replaced him but you already know how that ends
The thing with Miguel is, that wasn't his family. Miguel hasn't had to make a sacrifice as Spider-Man. It was a tragedy to him, but if he wasn't there as he shouldn't have been. He still would've been Spider-Man.
Also, this Miguel is still addicted to Rapture.
I explained that last part to my sister. It causes control issues and that is why Miguel isn’t thinking straight
He still lost his family in his universe that's why he went to another in the first place.
I thought him turning into Spider-Man caused him to lose his addiction
Yeah that part was why I was like why didn’t the TVA come for him then🧐
he lost his family in his original universe, why do you think he tried to replace his version who died?
Miles makes me love being black and speaking Spanish so much !Hes such good representation for black and Latino people. His Jordan’s , where’s he’s from, his family , everything. I got chills from every part of the movie. And the end when he met himself ( with a Puerto Rican accent jaja) it was so fire. Love him so much ! Best multiverse movie and I love Wanda lol.
I think that a lot of us are thinking that earth-42 Peter was supposed to get bit, but from the flashback we saw that it was going for earth-42 Miles. The films show that the spider sense is attuned with the multiverse somehow (Gwen knowing that Miles was in the wrong universe) and spider people can literally sense who else had spider powers via a feeling. Once it was captured, It didn’t bite the scientists that captured it. And once it broke out of containment, I’m sure that if the spider was going after Peter, it could have found him. Instead, the spider seemed to really have gone out of its way to bite 1610 Miles in the first film as it knew it had to bite A Miles, it just ended up biting the one of the wrong universe.
I thought Miguel said that earth-42 was supposed to be the Spiderman also.
How spider 42 went to earth 1610?
@@Princestation103 The scientist that became the spot used the collider to pull it there.
Yup - it's an extended metaphor for how kids in RL can grow up to be model citizens or criminals depending on the people and environment around them. Miles-42 has an unstable family, bad role models and a city full of crime, so it's more likely for him to break bad.
What flashback showed the spider going for Miles in 42? They flashed back to other Miles getting bit but I don't remember seeing Miles in 42 at all until the end.
Hobie is him! Through out the movie! No one knew how smooth he was guiding Miles.
hobie not hobbi
Yeah it was pretty cool how he kinda told miles how to break out of the force field prison by reminding him to use his palms and not fingers guess he really didn’t believe in authority
He's him
So if the Miles of Earth 42 was supposed to become spider man, then was the Earth 1610 Miles supposed to have his dad die and become the Prowler. In other words, were the events supposed to happen in the opposite universe, and then they did?
Yes
I highly doubt it. Not only does Earth 42 not have a Spiderman like our Miles universe did which is why it became a wasteland. The fact that the same number that is on the spider is hidden throughout the first movie multiple times before it even bit Miles, it leads me to believe our Miles was always supposed to be bit.
@A GTL I don't think so because it seems to be that every universe can only have 1 spider man and Peter Parker. "Blonde/Chase" Edition was the Spiderman of Earth 1610
@@ChaostheKid06 except 616 had Peter, mayday, Ben. That is three spiders not one
No, if the spider never left Earth 42 then both Earth 42 and Earth 1610 would have spider man’s in them and would be safe. Miles on Earth 1610 wouldn’t turn into the prowler as his dad wouldn’t die fighting crime (as the blonde haired Spider-Man would still be alive).
Honestly I really hope that Beyond the Spiderverse doesn’t go anywhere near the MCU and Kang, there’s really no point of it
They really can’t, that’s marvel studios this is sony with characters marvel created.
unfortunately there's a chance that they will tbh
Totally agree. Let this be it's own thing
@@wyattdavis1971 I also agree
Lmao hate to break it too you but it will eventually happen and it you guys will grovel in hate whilst the rest of us love every second of it 😂
Saw this movie last night with my dad, And I said "This is the best Multiverse movie I've seen since MultiVerse of Madness" Also who loved it when Spider Man 2099 named droped Dr Strange?
Multiverse Of Madness only disappointed me because it seemed like they just used Doctor Strange title to get views. It was as more like a Scarlet Witch movie
@I’m not blind but I love blindfolds my gripe with that movie is I feel they forced to many horror themes, without making it a horror film. So it seemed awkward
@I’m not blind but I love blindfolds my gripe with that movie is I feel they forced to many horror themes, without making it a horror film. So it seemed awkward
If you feel like Multiverse of Madness is the best Multiverse movie, wait till you watch Everything Everywhere All At Once !
@@jjstarrprodI heard it's also a really good movie. And I'm gonna watch it someday.
I honestly like to think Prowler Miles is a dark hero, like Miguel. He and Aaron both fight for the city, but not in the heroic ways 1610 Miles would
I actually think alt Miles and Miguel parallel each other. They are both well-intentioned extremists who try to do the right thing but use questionable tactics.
I bet alternate miles is going to have a brief altercation with our miles but then they will find common ground. And alternate miles might die saving our miles from spot. Or our Miles might find a way to get the 42 spider and give alternate miles the dna to restore the timeline. There was a part in the movie where Miles noticed the deceased spider 42 sitting in Spots apartment and I know thats some type of forshadowing
I mean wasn’t there a part where it showed more than one spider with 42 on it???im not sure but I think I did see that
There are no "Timelines" in this movie, they both just switched destinies. The Spider from Earth-42 is dead, getting it and doing something to it won't do anything for Earth-42 Miles.
@@windghost2 the timelines are the parallel realities with different outcomes. The alternate reality is supposed to have a spider man but there isn’t, instead there was a timeline w both peter and miles as spiderman which is why peter died. My original thought was if Miles got alternate miles to become spiderman that would restore his destiny and stop the damage caused by miles being an anomaly. I no longer believe this tho
@@Solooshin Oh well then my mistake.
@@windghost2 to each his own bruv no mistake
What I’d like to know is how our Miles can even HAVE a canon event.. when he wasn’t supposed to be Spider-Man to begin with!? Some serious holes in 2099’s story here.. excited to see how it plays out!
I think one thing that is being overlooked with Miguel (2099 Spidey) is his need to feed. It’s very subtle and not really touched on but he is stopped by the helicopter in the air when he’s about to bite Vulture and then when Miles walks in on him, we see him taking an injectable serum.
Miles states that Miguel doesn’t sound like a Spiderman and I think this is going to come to the fore front in the final film. I think Miguel will miss a dose or will give in to his stress and bite someone. Could be Miles, could be alter Miles but Miguel isn’t ‘just some regimented Spiderman’ he has a very serious hunger and it’s going to come out.
I think that was drugs. He was having withdrawals. Certain drugs can cause someone to be a control freak. And rupture might be a super advanced version of those drugs
Miguel is different from the other Spider-Man as his story is not the same he didn’t get bit by a spider.he was addicted to drugs in a company and tried to cure his addicted with a chemical.his boss blew up the lab with Miguel in it and all the chemicals changed Miguel’s dna.making him like a spider vampire.
@@ked49 When Miguel injects himself, you can see teeths like a spider or something else, he is injecting powers to himself
I storngly believe everyone is going to be distracted with Miles' Dad, Spot, Prowler Miles, Team Gwen VS Team Miguel that i feel like somehow Miles' mom might be the one to die just like in the comics. Just theorizing of course
Nah... I think Miles saves everyone saying F the cannon... we make our own way. He's been saying it for two movies now and that's the theme. Creating his own path. He already lost his Uncle what more suffering should he endure. It's equivalent to losing Uncle Ben.
@@viclavar9298it’s a spider-man movie bro lol they can’t save everyone…remember that they will need to add some sadness in the movie somebody will definitely die.the mom is kinda playing an uncle ben role giving miles a lot of life advice so she possibly might die.
@@princebealalthe3rd732 Somebody already did die. Miles already suffered a loss with his uncle. I think if someone dies it will be Spidey 2099 sacrificing himself for being so wrong about everything.
@@viclavar9298 spot already is at miles universe i think when miles returns all he will see despair as the universe is collapsing
These have been the best big-screen comic book adaptations I've ever seen. I know "Beyond" is going to be incredible. I just want more Sun Spider please!!!!
Can anyone explain how Spot knows exactly that Miles’ dad is Jeff? He wants to eliminate everything Miles loves but i’m just wondering how he knows who Miles’ dad is.
Explosion gave him a vision of the future
I think he’s nearly an omniscient being so he just knows.
15:32 to 15:44
It was implied pretty heavily that both Spot and Mile's consciousnesses are intertwined.
I think The Spot really don't know the connection of Jeff and Spiderman except that Spiderman cares for him more so he is on the quest of hurting anyone who is close to Spiderman's heart
The main problem w Miguel Ohara actual theory is gwen left to team with him vausing her dad not to be captain... these rvents happened because they become captain signaling their death. Now technically miguel caused another anamoly in which should have destroyed her universe. So he is wrong. His dad doesnt need to die. And what if the time line where the prowler miles was the dad they saw that was supposed to die. Since his spider alone was linked to earth 42....
You know what I don't get? In the first movie, the others said that Aaron dying was Miles's one big tragedy. Now suddenly, it ALSO has to be someone else close to him?
The chief of the police department always has to die it’s a canon event and Miles dad is the chief of the police department which is why Gwen was happy when her dad told her that he quit it has nothing to do with him being miles dad just that he is chief and he needs to die unless he quits (which he won’t)
Uncle Ben wasn’t a police chief tho…jus a major figure in Peter’s life. I thought his (meaning Miles’) uncle passin was that too tho…🤷🏾♂️
But…comic book movies…lol 🤷🏾♂️
@@marcrichardson517He also wasn't peters dad on a police force 😅. I think they are both the canon events. Just like one happens to one and not the other. Like uncle Ben dies and maybe Peter's dad would have been on the force and became captain and died, but he doesn't have parents so. Or maybe it different cuz he's miles and not a peter. Hell idk I wanna know forreal now to 😅
@@cjjackson2423 my bad…I 4got a word & corrected it. But yeah…I’m right there witcha…✊🏾
Also…in the Toby verse (yeah…I’m callin it that…lol 🤷🏾♂️)…what police chief even died?!? & should THEY have been a Spider Man?!?
Yeah…answers are needed on this theory…lol 🤷🏾♂️
I still think that madame web should make an appearance in beyond the multiverse because she made more if an impact of either helping or changing some of spiderman's destiny.
She be better be included somehow 😅
I think Miguel is sort of like Rick from Rick and Morty limiting them to a certain part of the multiverse aka the Spiderverse where their sacrifice connects them through what he calls “canon events” when evil Morty escapes the part of the multiverse where Rick is a genius and he’s an idiot he’s going beyond that multiverse. I think beyond the Spiderverse will be going beyond the limited part of the multiverse where they lose someone to become Spider-Man. Maybe Miguel needs these spidermen to lose someone to create the network of the Spiderverse so he can use that as a cover to find universes where his wife and daughter exist because he couldn’t travel to them without their DNA routing them to their universe
I thought that the spider from Earth 42 was supposed to bite that universe's Peter. Miles is an anomaly because, like Gwen, he's the only other version of himself that's a Spider-man. Universe's 42 is in such dissaray because there was no Peter to ever become Spider-man
Nah, the Spot's flashback of taking the spider for the test, shows the spider crawling towards e42 miles. You can tell cause of the same dreads, and the spider was in visions academy.
I have a theory that Miguel either isn't telling the complete story of the collapse of his universe or he doesn't know the complete story
Same. I don't believe Miles saving the police chief in Pravitr's dimension is what caused it to collapse. It was ALREADY collapsing because the spot was just there. I think Miguel might have jumped to conclusions a bit. Hopefully not out right lying.
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Hank Pim: And we can learn a lot from these ants
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Looking forwrd to seeing the characters in Live action on Beyond. I think theh take the "cop out" and just use the voice actors as their initial counterparts. Rarher than recast someone they'd use in a Live action movie.
Majority of fans want the goodie actors for live action.
I would prefer if Miles wasn't supposed to be Spider-man in 42. Like in the multiverse, he is the only Miles that is Spider-man, to make him more of an anomaly. He probably will since they do show 42 Miles when Spot is talking about the spider, but I really hope we get to see an evil Peter Parker there too, like he is the "Legit" business' man scientific Kingpin, so they each get a evil them to fight.
This is how I understood things as well. Not that the 42 spider was suppose to go to Miles but that not only is Miles an anomoly that he got a spider from another universe but that he is an anomoly because there is not supposed to be a Miles Spiderman in any universe. Like he most likely was meant to become The Prowler or something.
@@phamtomK9exactly, i was about to comment that i understood it just like you, don't get why most think it was miles the one supossed to become spiderman. he is an anomaly, it wouldn't make any sense
@@phamtomK9 it showed the spider going to bite miles
I really want Spider Weaver to be given story and have her be voiced by Amber Midthunder.
Also want Spidersman and Web-Weaver.
Omg I love Doug he asks the question we wanna know like what skin care product you use 😂🐶
Oh awesome! You finally got some footage of Doug actually giving you a high-five! 😄👍
🟣When miles goes to his doppelgänger’s room he wears his hoodie which is purple instead of red foreshadowing his counterpart is the Prowler 🟣
“He’s evil beyond redemption.” Bwa hahahaha Almost did a spit take with that one.
People jumping to the conclusion that Earth Miles is evil is low key prejudice. There’s nothing he’s done to make that definitive deduction.
When miles meet spider-man and there spider sense trigger the background behind miles it was prowlers color scheme then it turn to spider-man color signifying the change of fate
Yes.
Beyond the Spider-Verse will be filled with Surprises the story might play out differently then what people will expect.
I hope we get to see some backstory to earth 42 miles becoming prowler
But, he [Miles G.] wasn't supposed to get bit. If he was and that was a "canon event" his universe would of collapsed. It didn't, meaning he was always going to become the Prowler there. If it didn't get sucked out of his universe, Miles G. probably would have noticed and squished the spider before getting bit LoL. But again, as the movie insists cannon events must happen or the universe collapses and 42 wasn't collapsing, he is meant to become the Prowler there.
Or canon events don't really collapse the universe... something else does :)
@@viclavar9298 I'm using only what the movie says. They spent 2 hours telling us they do, so we are supposed to believe they do. Otherwise it's bad storytelling LoL.
@@philipjay2099 except if you watch the movie, mumbatin collapsed prior to miles saving sting. And newueva collapsed a while after Miguel arrived
@@ked49 Except, you still have to go by what they tell us, or there's no point to watching any movie.
@@philipjay2099 not bad storytelling, maybe biased storytelling, or a biased narrator - miguel could either be lying about the canon events and what leads to the universe collapsing or he actually doesnt know and has been acting on this misinfo the entire time
I kinda wish that Miles was the only Miles Spider-Man, that's how I interrupted it, that the spider was supposed to bite Peter Parker but jumped universes and bit miles. Very brilliant movie!
I got the same impression, in that the 42 spider wasn't even supposed to go a Miles and that Miles is not supposed to be Spiderman in any universe.
It showed it about to bite miles, are you blind?
@@ked49 are you a jerk that will only be touched by one woman, your mother, your entire life? Yes.
My theory is the prowler is the hero of that universe without spiderman that why the mom talking to Mile in that manner was pure belief she already know her son is prowler.
What do you think will happen in part 3?
Miles’ dad will die
I think Miguel is sort of like Rick from Rick and Morty limiting them to a certain part of the multiverse aka the Spiderverse where their sacrifice connects them through what he calls “canon events” when evil Morty escapes the part of the multiverse where Rick is a genius and he’s an idiot he’s going beyond that multiverse. I think beyond the Spiderverse will be going beyond the limited part of the multiverse where they lose someone to become Spider-Man. Maybe Miguel needs these spidermen to lose someone to create the network of the Spiderverse so he can use that as a cover to find universes where his wife and daughter exist because he couldn’t travel to them without their DNA routing them to their universe
Spiderman 2099 is a part of the inheritors maybe?
We get 90s spidey
Live action miles with at least Tobey and Andrew
You got something wrong, every universe has a Spider-Man. America was from a place outside of the main multiverse.
How do you define the main multiverse though?
@@Stonecoldinsummer any universe including a spider? They said this in comics.
The beyonder’s home world is outside the multiverse
The spot universe is outside the multiverse.
The utopian parallel is outside the multiverse
Detective comics is outside the multiverse.
The weaver is outside the multiverse
@@ked49 ah, sorry, I was putting it in MCU multiverse parameters in my head
What if spot travels not just through the multi-verse but time as well? What if he kills prowler/miles' father in universe 42?
5:30 Evil Miles might get a watch from one of the spiders during a fight. But then the spiders will just deny him access. Like what happened to Gwen. She can travel now because Hobart was stealing little bits of tech from Miguel and building his own watches. Earth-42 doesn’t have that level of tech, so Prowler miles won’t be able to build his own watches. So that theory seems dead on arrival.
Here's hoping for a 90s spider man cameo. And i think miles prime might end up staying in the current dimension w/o his dad
there was a 90s spiderman cameo.
The Prowler Suit In Spiderman:Miles Morales hits so much harder after this movie 💯
Just went back to put It on
I don't think they specified that Miles would become Spider-Man in Earth 42, Miguel says the spider wasn't meant for Miles in Earth 1610 because it was from 42, so it's very possible that Earth 42 has a Peter that was supposed to get bit and evil Miles still probably wouldn't have happened.
Yeah I think people are just making that up.
Loved evil Miles. I noticed his absence quite and quickly and I predicted the Miles Prowler twist while they were on the stairs.
I think you got one plot point slightly mixed up. Maybe there was some blink-and-you-miss-it dialogue that contradicts this, but my takeaway is that the spider that bit Miles was supposed to have bitten Universe 42's Peter Parker, not Miles like you said (a few times) in this video. That's why Spiderman never existed there; because the spider that was meant to bite him was pulled into Miles's universe instead.
Yeah I agree with you. I think that 1610 Miles was not supposed to be a spider man. Him becoming spiderman required 1610 peter parker to die to correct this.
It literally fucking showed the spider about to bite miles when it was teleported
@@sabotooth you miss understood everything
I think the anomaly and canon event thing here are totally unrelated. They said Miguel's universe was destroyed because he took the place of another universe's version of himself. At the end of the What If series, the Watcher took the Black Widow from the universe where Ultron won and let her stay in a universe where their Black Widow died. If replacing your dead self in another universe would be such an issue, wouldn't the Watcher of all people know what would happen?
Interested in figuring out what that green fluid is that Miguel injected into his shoulder was.
Has anyone considered that if Spider 42 stayed where it was meant to and gave powers to Miles 42, that he likely would have still become a bad guy?
Earth 42 had no Peter Parker Spiderman, so there was no Spiderman before Miles for that Miles to look up to.
He might have become a Spiderman but he would have still been influenced by his Uncle Aaron and instead of becoming the Prowler he would have just become an evil Spiderman.
Voss had a cool theory.
We don’t know if Miles G is bad yet. He could just be tryna get by outside the law in that universe. And with how unruly it is and the “sinister six cartel” running things he might actually be a good guy
I actually think that prowler miles isnt necessarily bad, he goes against and tries to fight with the sinister 6 cartel
On rewatch Miles from Earth 42 is NOT a bad guy, but a vigilante. His dad was ki!led in his universe and leaving him with no Spider-Man turned Miles-42 into a Batman figure dishing out his brand of justice.
The only downside I can see coming from this movie…now the creative team HAS to stick the landing. After the first two movies being critically and audience acclaimed outings, the pressure is immense. I think they will nail it though.
Part three is just a continuation of the second movie and has to already be planned out and maybe even finished. They just have to keep it under wraps until next year. The minds behind the Spiderverse haven’t given us any reason to doubt them thus far.
i mean a lot of this film was set up for the next one and it was still insane. i think the third one will undoubtedly be the absolute best of the trilogy
What I wonder, is if Miles being bitten was an anomoly to begin with, then who's to say that Jefferson Davis is destined to die? Surely that would mean that the universe Miles is from has accepted Miles as NOT being an anomoly for him to have canon events too? Otherwise then Jeff might be completely fine.
Plus Gwen's dad resigns before she can have the police captain death canon event so either that means it was never going to happen for her OR Miguel himself causes an anomoly and diverted her canon event by ever showing up into her life.
Does anyone else find it odd that there isn't a mention of Madame Web
You think she would play a role in all of this
I honestly thought she would pop up in tht one scene wen he’s being shown the web of life or how the spider universes connect
@@1LowkeyMF I have a theory that she was the one to allow our miles to get the powers viewing him as more worthy than 42 miles
Yes Kingpin was the one that resulted the spider coming but she let it all unfold instead of getting involved
I was wondering the same thing. I think we'll see her in the next film. That's my theory, of course
I was hoping seeing her in this movie but maybe in the next one!
@@MegaMaster1021 I like tht theory and since the next movie is BEYOND the spider verse, madam Webb knows the beyonder so who knows maybe we see one or both of them
I am in awe of the stunning beauty this movie has. One thing I also want to point out SPOILER ALEET: Miguel keeps telling Miles he is the anomaly but 1. Didn’t literally create an anomaly to get his family. 2. If Kingpin from Miles’s universe hadn’t had created the first multiverse blip along with the Spit bringing in spider 42 miles wouldn’t have been bit or went back to the subway that lead to Parker’s death. 3. Universe 42 may not have. Spider-Man but it wasn’t miles fault he isn’t an anamoly eventually Peter A would have retired and eventually Miles would have been bitten. I really feel for our miles but it’s going to make it so much sweeter when he realizes his full worth and potential and Miguel realizes he was the wrong one the whole time and the spot created himself. Making a spiderman club should literally be a blip in the timeline your meddling with the multiverse
did it say in the movie that the spider was meant for evil miles? because i thought the movie said that spider man in evil miles died because he didnt have powers
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Curious why you assume Miles from Dimension 42 was supposed to be Spider-Man and not Peter Parker from that dimension. I would've thought PP becomes Spider-Man and creates a timeline where Uncle Aaron still becomes Prowler.
Sooo, since the theme of this movie was kind of a fate vs. Free will Story, I would be honestly surprised, if Miguel ends up being right about the spiderverse and canon events. I think, the next movie will reveal that canon events don't have to happen. Or, more likely, the canon event doesn't have to happen, just a canon event has to. Maybe, as long as the spiderman of the univeverse prevents it, it wont collapse. Like Gwens. I think her Dad should have died in the museum but, because of her action, he didn't. Instead, she revealed her identity to him, creating an altered canon event. They fought and later reconsiled, making her grow as a Spiderwoman. Thus a canon event. Peter B. or Miguel did say that Canon Events don't have to be negativ. Like every Spieder(wo)man finding their MJ, Gwen, Peter, Miles etc. Similarly I pretty sure that the Spidergang will safe Miles Dad, maybe his Mother will be in danger at the same time safed by 42 Miles, ending in 1610 Miles revealing to his parents his identity. Which than brings the whole family story full circle and, in them accepting and still loving him make him finally leaving the duality of SpidermanXMiles behind and by that creating an alternate Canonevent.
Or they all just die. Who knows at this point😂
what about Gwen's cannon event . what I think is Gwen's cannon event was disabled because she went with Miguel to the spider society caused her father to quit his job which means Gwen's dad won't die. that's when Gwen knew that their story didn't have to go that way so she helped miles
Correct me if I'm wrong, but we don't know that Prowler Miles was supposed to become Spiderman in Earth 42 (at least within the Spiderverse), it could have been Peter Parker-42 or someone else entirely.
No it literally was shown when they took the spider out of that universe it was behind miles morales☠️
So it was most definitely gonna bite him
I honestly don't remember this scene..
If you compare Spider-Man: No Way Home to Spiderman Across The Spider-Verse.
There are actually bit similarity in story telling with characters.
For Example, Dr.Strange tries to protects the reality by stopping villains from Multiverse and also fights Tom's Spiderman. In across the spider verse Miguel O Hara tries to stop miles and also be will try to protect realities in the Web of Life and Destiny which is very similar to Dr.strange character arc
I believe that Earth-42 Miles is not like any Prowler that is a villain, he's more likely a vigilante. More likely he became the Prowler because he discovered his Uncle Aaron's secret and maybe his father was killed while saving someone and he ask his Uncle to train him so that he can hunt down who's responsible to his fathers death and thus he became a vigilante
He's a lot like the Punisher, a violent vigilante. Not a villain but an antagonist in the beginning.
I think prowler miles will first pose as OG Miles once he meets Gwen’s team and pretend until he can get close enough to kill one of them for their bracelet (my money is on either spider punk or India) and then use it to try and save his alter dad.
I'm convinced they leave little intentional mistakes in these vids. For instance, calling the Tinkerer "The Thinker" to drive up the number of comments. (Because people can't help correcting others) touché worked on me.
Maybe incursions can be thought of like bad ideas damaging the belief of the viewer on the universe they are witnessing. When so many different writers make different choices that doesnt follow a very believable line of thought, then different ideas start to forceably take over or an incursion. This will damage or break the reality that the viewer's need. If less people believe then less people watch, then they cant make their next movie/game/idea/universe.
5:06, Beyond*** The Spiderverse
There was the scene of the Universe 42 Spider about to bite Universe 42 Miles when Johnny Ohnn (aka Johnny 'ohnn' the Spot) teleported it to Miles Morales universe.
If you included that clip, it would've been perfect
Interesting we are getting this and the flash both dealing with parents Having to pass away to save the universes or incursions etc happen, I love it and ive loved both movies!
0:00 Best Joke of a Movie like that
You ment beyond instead of across @5:08
I got to say best cliffhanger in years for any movie
Yeah hands down
Now, it makes sense why Miles got bitten by the spider because it was about to choose the Earth 42 variant. The spider didn't realize it was in a different universe.
The Spider society vs the TVA
Hmmm…one wonders if now being in God Mode if The Spit becomes The Beyonder…
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This endin…was SOOOO dope!!!
Miles meetin him, Gwen comin 2 get him w/the old team AND Miguel still lookin 4 him w/Spot STILL on his mission?!?
MAN…can’t wait til 2026…lol 🤷🏾♂️
Ima be damn near 30 but fuck it, lol
@@FreshPrincex4 I’ll be near 50 STILL lookin 4ward 2 it too…lol
ive never watched the first movie so i decided to watch it today with the new movie and it was amazing
Is Gwen Wrong?? an absolute point takes place even when whatever is done differently, as shown in 'What If' Doctor Strange episode.
Christine Palmer died in every scenario, even though doctor strange made different choices. HERE TOO Captain Stacy made different choice, will that save him?? Could miles father be saved??
And why was Miguel O'Hara hesitant to onboard Gwen to his team??
BEST SPIDER-MAN MOVIE EVER
5:06 - No, dude, read the image on the screen, The 3rd movie is "BEYOND The Spider-verse."
seeing as community is the whole reason we have Miles is so fitting using that clip in this video
I dont think miles from earth 42 is as evil as we thought he might be, but a bait to make us think he is. The reason i think this is the fact that 42 miles' father is dead, now how or who killed is a mystery, but in the background you can hear jj talk about the sinister 6 cartel and that may be the reason why jeff is dead because we know he wouldnt stand to let villains get away with it. With jeff dead, miles of 42 becomes the prowler with his uncle aiding him in getting revenge.
the spot wad such a goofy guy and the weekly villain but ends up as one of the biggest threats the the multiverse
I think miles's prowler is going to be like batman esque character, fightining criminals at night and finding ways to take care of the cartel. Would makes sense, because the first thing he ask's is whether miles 1610 father is alive?
More Punisher than Batman. Batman won't kill but I suspect Miles Prowler might.
@@etinarcadiaego7424 but i dont think they would show that, they might imply it. But when we see him, he may not be killing folks.
I'm curious why people are so desperate for Miles to be a good guy in 42. It's more interesting if he's not.
Prowler Miles saves Spider Morales's father. The only way to have your cake and eat it too is to have two cakes... I mean, Mileses.
Your the first TH-camrs to highlight how the canon events and absolute events are pretty much the same. I think that Miguel is gonna do the same as Supreme strange
Maybe this is all in the timeline. Similar to Loki looking for who's in charge but not realizing he's only been a pawn in the grand scheme of things. Had miles not known about the multiverse, the death of his dad would of made him quit being spiderman?...
That’s actually how it happened in the comics, one earth was destroyed before it was supposed to be, and it’s set up a chain reaction which led to the collapse of the Multiverse.
I think that miles is going to be stuck in 42 and the new crew is going to team up to fight prowler (potentially the others, remember the radio was talking about a cartel or whatever I can't remember.) Evil miles will fight against miles and the other spider "band" who come in to help miles, but I think because miles knows himself best... He is somehow going to convince the prowler miles to help and turn into the hero of 42. I would imagine this is don't by Aaron dying once again; making this evil miles uncle death and although he wasn't bitten, he is still supposed to be the hero.
Anyone realize there are 2 ps4 Spider-Men ? One where 3 spider-Men point at each other and then the one from the games
Game 1 + 2
THANKS for this!!!!
Too much Spider… ah, a spider!!!
The Spider-Verse is no more.
Maybe Miguel is so hell-bent on stopping miles because his universe is a central part of a branch of the spider verse, meaning that if his specifically goes down then it totally destabilizes the whole web because of where it is specifically located within it.
The spider that bit miles wasn't suposed to bite earth 42 miles it was suposed to bite earth 42 peter parker!!!
You keep saying that Miles Morales of earth 42 was supposed to be Spider-Man, but Miguel O’Hara said it was supposed to be a Peter Parker. I’m not sure how either one of you could know.
It showed us 42 miles with the spider
@@ked49 it’s not explicit