When I was younger someone told me that modern art is all about the idea, not the execution and that made modern art make sense. Then a few years ago someone told me that modern art is mainly a way for the wealthy to launder their money and that made modern art make way more sense.
well idk why the artists would care about why the artists would care especially because the rich only pay them a commision and then later on let some art critic overprice it. Zero chance any of that money is making back to the artist
@soberstoners7610 eh, I get it. I've seen some stuff that I thought was really great. A lot of the artists are in it for the right reasons, but one of the main things about it all is that there is no right reasons. Art is an can be anything. even if it's just a money laundering scheme you could still say that that is a very clear representation of the world and times we live in. I don't know, if you go in thinking "is it art?" Then you've already ruined your experience. It's kind of an embrace of the idea that it's all what you get from it.
Totally didnt give any context. It was a danish artist who wanted to protest how badly artists were payed by museums (because the pay is SHIT). He was commisioned by a danish museum to make a piece for them. He asked them for 84k in cash as a part of the piece. The museum thought they were getting a physical piece, instead they Got a brilliant conceptual piece. The artist had taken the money that was supposed to be Used for the piece, and simply ran off. What was left was a blank canvas. People who shit on modern art refuse to find context for anything. Instead, yall are just stuck up on old facist beliefs about beuty and what art Can be.
@@BlueSorcerer You dorks throw around the word "fascist" so much that it has lost all its meaning. Not that you were using it correctly to begin with, but man... what an embarrassing post.
The saddest part about the hydraulic system that was cleaning its own oil so it wouldn’t die- is that initially it was also programmed to wave and engage with patrons and would have to balance the interactions with gathering the oil. But as time went on and the machine lost more and more fluid, it had to spend less time waving and dancing and more time cleaning, until it ultimately had to cut out engaging with the audience all together in order to survive. And it eventually stopped anyway. An intense piece.
Contemporary artists are like the guy who's a checkout bagger at a grocery store, but puts "Goods Management and Transportation Specialist" on their resume. 55% confidence, 44% audacity, 1% artistic skill.
True. But I'd argue that all three characteristics exist within all artists *who put their work out for consumption... The ratios definitely vary- Especially the percentage of artistic skill- But it takes all three things to do it
Not always, I’d argue performance artists kinda lean more into this, but a lot of artists I’ve known have a ton of learned skills in things like ceramics and painting that take years to actually get good at, and a lot of them are pretty chill and normal people. The stuff you’re talking about tends to become more of an issue with highly successful artists (financially speaking) who buy into their own hype. Also, not coming at u specifically, but the trend of calling artists unskilled is kinda pretentious atp too
@@spankyjeffro5320anyones allowed to judge anything, thats how these kinds of contemporary art get valued so high, from the average person critiquing it
idk people shit on Ono too hard man. If you ever do any digging no one is pissed at her, and like really she is just expressing herself. People blame her for the break up of the Beatles but that is ridiculous and there are so many factors that lead to the end of the Beatles. I hate to say it but a lot of it is sexism, and I dont throw that word around lightly like extremist feminists do. Everyone does goofy stuff but when she does it it’s pretentious and she gets shit for it. Idk knowing what she has been through with watching the love of her life get brutally murdered and taken away from her right before her eyes, holding his cold body as he dies. She has never re married either. idk. give yoko ono a fucking break
@@sexdeathfashionshe is the reason John Lennon magnified into a piece of shit. She’s the reason he was a deadbeat to his son Julian and why Paul McCartney had to step in to fill that role for Julian. She’s the one who kept his ego inflated, which led him to assume more and more control of the Beatles name without input from the other members. You can defend her all you want but her and Lennon were pieces of shits who tried to be a symbol of love and freedom all the while enjoying the privileges of upper class society.
I think people blaming Yoko is wrong, Lennon was his own person. I disagree though that she can just do what she wants on performances. I mean what she was doing made what Chuck Berry was doing irrelevant as you couldn't hear his stuff, or the rest of the band.
@@sexdeathfashion no she didnt end the beatles that claim is silly, however she doesnt seem like a nice person she did some pretty awful stuff to one of lenons sons after his death forgot which one but look in to it if youre intressted. besides that she does seem pretty pretentious to me not silly fun.
I love the really small, quick memes the editor puts in, like when he says "Paris" at 18:49 and like one second of "fine distinguished gentlemen of African descent in Paris" plays
I went to art school and once my professor went to this huge art gallery and put an empty soda can on the floor in the way it looked like it was part of the exhibition. People started gathering around the soda can, taking pictures and arguing about the meaning behind it. And I think it says a lot about this whole deal w fine arts.
It legit is. Some of the best artists out there are enormous trolls, even back during the Renaissance. A perfect example is a rich prick buying Banksy art (a STREET artist who is aggressively anti-consumerist) that automatically shredded itself when it sold.
Partially. They realized that a certain demographic of people was spending millions on trivial nonsense to launder money. So they took the opportunity. I’m sure it was unintentional for some, but I bet most knew what they were doing.
I remember the glasses one was actually a prank/experiment. Some guy just decided at an art gallery to see what would happen if he left his glasses on the floor like it was an exhibition.
I stupidly did fine art as my university course, I lasted 2 years and dropped out in the 3rd. Sad thing is? I liked drawing when I went in, I haven’t picked up a pencil or a pen since and that was 6 years ago now. Some of the most pretentious, stuck up people, students & staff I’ve ever had to sadly meet.
I went to college initially to get a BFA degree, and after three years came to the conclusion that most contemporary "fine art" was all just a bunch of pretentious bullshit. After realizing that this would never translate to an actual career that would put a roof over my head, I switched to graphic design.
I remember when back in like 2017 me, my brother and my older sister went to this art gallery (in Finland). Most of the so called art there was 💩 I particularly remember one where there was a ladder and in front of the ladder was some man figurine made of clay, with it's mouth open. There were punch of pretentious looking people staring at it like it was some groundbreaking, glorious thing. When they saw that we were shaking our heads while trying to hold in our laughter, they looked at us like we were some ignorant plebeians, it was hilarious!
I did fine arts, the hardest part was dealing with the myopic, nacissistic, chronic masturbating idealiots who took themselves way too seriously. You've thrown a blanket over a stack of used tires, you're not changing the world Ignatius! Anyway, I digress, for one of my assignments I went to the art Gallery for inspiration. There was a room that was being repainted by tradesmen (contractors), I know this was the case because when I got to the gallery these guys were setting up drop sheets & ladders & setting down paint buckets, then they went to lunch. I ended up spending the better part of an hour watching people gawk at the room wondering what the installation meant & taking pictures. I stood closely hearing the more learned art connoisseurs explain the symbology of the items on display to their friends. These pearls of wisdom exclaimed louder than required to enlighten the other watchers staring into the gaping maw of banality. It was an ode to the possibilities of the creative mind, a critique on censorship of the arts, a mournful tribute to the temporary nature of modern art, etc, etc. It was hillarious but I couldn't blame them, the room next door had a step ladder with glasses of water on it.
I love this story from the Netherlands where a modern artist reported to the police that their piece of modern art that was on display in a park was stolen. It turned out that the 'thieves' were park cleaners who thought that the artwork was litter and so they threw it in a dumpster.
lol the "shrink wrap" is 100% a fetish object. I had a ... friend who wired up his house with a sort of central vacuum so he could put himself in the vac bed silently. (He also had a dead man's switch so the vac stayed on as long as his finger was pressing the trigger.)
Vac beds are HUGE on the bondage scene, but the way it was portrayed in the art is significantly less lewd, all the participants are clothed and most vac beds are solid black.
as someone who also went to art school (wish I didn't, but I was dumb and 17 when I decided to go), once we had a student exhibit where a student covered a chair completely in kraft cheese whiz. Not a single inch of that chair was uncovered, and it stunk up the room completely, but my professor kept going on about how "revolutionary" it was or whatever. Same exhibit, another student recorded a conversation between her and her neglectful mother, and played it over gameplay footage of two Sims talking. It was incredibly uncomfortable to sit thru, and professor kept insisting it was "her animation" even though it was CLEARLY Sims footage. I'm glad I transferred out for the following semester
I’m just glad I’m not the only one who thinks these ppl are awesome con artist. That old man with the buckets goes home and laughs while counting money of fools.
The duct tape banana is my roman empire. If anyone's art belongs in a museum, Papa Meat's ABSOLUTELY deserves a spot. Not only is it skilled and profound, but traumatizing children is extremely funny
24:50 "You don't directly drink the water from the sink because you think it is dirty. Then you don't eat the apple until it cleaned, but you will eat the apple after you clean it by the sink water." - Chris Hu
I remember in art school this one dude did a really cool renaissance tier pen and pencil drawing with angels and stuff. The teacher and the rest of the class were disinterested even though he was the most skilled person in the class because they didn't get any message from it.
Well i mean skill has very little meaning in my opinion because art is so subjective to begin with. You can be skillfull at a specific style but if you don't do anything unique with that style what are you really bringing to the table meaning wise.
@@junebug9841 5userdfgliytfjyxduf75dkyrdci.ub htutfutf,utxc.lugj,b nbgv Now that was pretty unique wasn't it. Arfully typed that with some beautiful motion with the fingers on my right hand. Look at the meaning I brought to the table Im so unique
If I remember correctly it was someone who just placed their glasses by the wall and stepped away to stare at it. After a crowd started to gather, he walked up and put his glasses back on and walked away. 😂
toddlers can also unconsciously express themselves through drawing and coloring randomly. they do it all the time. but when a grown adult does it suddenly its 50 million? Where's these toddler's paychecks at?
A toddler artist's paycheck would be a loving parent's appreciation for their little creations ❤ I have a little one, almost a year old; every time she is creative I feel a sense of pride well up inside my chest ❤ I hope you've experienced, or will experience such a feeling! It's so rewarding ❤❤❤
@@henotic.essenceI was going to say, I think children’s art is such a sweet and special snapshot of a moment in time. Kids are so pure in their expression too, they draw something just because they think it. They don’t judge their artistic ideas, they just do it.
I am an art professor & honestly if you can bullshit a concept you can be a fine artist. Wild but the whole career of being an artist is about gaslighting the viewers into thinking your work is ~DEEP AND UNIQUE~
Got a bachelors in fine art over 10 years ago and it’s true. As long as you can write well you can bullshit it. You could do a dot on a piece of paper and if you write well enough and reference enough artists you’ll pass.
It actually has very little to do with what the artist says, its about what the "art world" says it means and they are one's bullshiting everyone, not the artists themselves.
@@MaxPopp-ej7fxi thought I was going crazy, I knew I had remembered that weird performance of the dude hitting the metal pole with a cane taped to him. Glad to know I didn't imagine it.
2:21 Glasses Left behind was actually a test, some guy looked at all the garbage on display and thought these people are so up their own asses, that if he put his glasses on the gerund they would be dumb enough to think it was art, and it worked. A similar experiment was done at a college, a professor showed his students a painting and asked them to tell why it was brilliant, they all gave him word salad answers, then he revealed the painting was just a photo of his apron. Modern art is proof, their is a sucker born every minute.
@@Arum638 it's not "the professor said it was a pollock painting and everyone believed it", it's "the professor said it was a brilliant piece and everyone retroactively gave it meaning". the thing being proven wasn't that you can say something was made by someone it wasn't, it was that a lot of these people only engage superficially and say stuff to sound smart instead of actually having opinions or seeing real meaning.
That professor was not trying to prove contemporary art is bullshit, nor that art lovers are fools. He was testing their artistic sensibilities, being able to talk about art and theorize. This obviously went over your head and the heads of everyone in this comment section.
12:55 this video was genuinely wiped completely from my brain i don't even remember where i saw it but having that forcefully pulled out of the memory vault was jarring
I remember going to the museum of contemporary art in London. It was filled with weird random color goopy paintings and also a signed toilet. I had so much fun trying to interpret each painting with my friends. I made exaggerated gestures and used big words. It went so far that a couple asian tourists looked at me as if i actually knew wtf i was talking about. So there is definitely some fun to be found in this weird shit
Yeah thats all noise music, its all just a big fuck you and i love it. Check out gerogerigegege, they released a “album” full of broken cassettes in a box and told you to shake it to “make your own album” its funny as shit i love them
@@woecelto be fair it’s designed to garner empathy from the viewer. The piece is designed to show despite how much we try to hold ourselves together we will fall apart and stop functioning altogether in the end. Regardless of how much we try to lengthen our time we all have a the same ending (in the open ended sense where end means death, and not the specific type of death that befalls a person). So yeah, we can relate to that very well on an existential level. But I agree wholeheartedly it’s wild to think I can feel so deeply for a robot that was built to die, and look that way - but we personify everything because it’s how we can most relate to the world around us.
@@H3_remixthe dumb part is it’s not designed with that in mind, the original artist said it was about immigration, he just got lucky and happened to make a piece that can be attributed with an idea that deep
drummer here that was deep into solo snare performance in high school; i recommend checking out "Asventuras" by Alexej Gerassimez for some "experimental" snare goodness that is genuinely musical and very cool to listen to. its on youtube
That giant clay sculpture’s meaning to me, as a ceramic artist, expresses your art pushing you away and your love and tenacity working against it to make it love you and become a piece of Fine Art.
The industrial robot was really interesting to me too because I’m also a mechanical engineer and if I could have made a living creature out of metal that would be it. With a known flaw that it has to always correct, it’s like the airplane industry using all their money to fly safely.
The Ryobi drill vs Milwaukee drill bit had me in stitches. I’ve worked with both visiting their manufacturing ops in Guangzhou. They’re under the same parent company and manufacture their tools at the same factory anyway lol
@@Oscar-b5b4x Pretty sure they meant for the robot to represent a totalitarian regime desperately trying to keep people from leaving the country. They fucked it up real bad and made an art piece of working yourself to death for nothing. I love this planet.
The prerequisite to be an artist now is not the talent and hard work to hone your craft, but the sheer audacity and fart-sniffing self-aggrandizement to consider be one.
With the buckets of sand that topple under their own weight, that sounds like a great metaphor that you write into a book about geopolitical turmoil or that a character recites in a revolutionary fantasy novel, not an entire standalone art piece.
Modern art is a rich people loop hole for the most part. And everyone is basically in it together, very rare is it an actual "new upsommung artist" that hasn't been planted there by someone rich and got hyped up to make their work worth money. Then if they get a piece worth something they can donate it and count it as a charitable tax write off especially if the art in question was worth millions. So to everyone trying to break into it either keep dreaming, find someone rich that you can pull this scheme off with or get so good and so much exposure you can't be denied your place.
@@MoreReds it'd be easier to set them up to win the lottery. Everyone gets a good check and status to a degree. That's long term money. Why would they want the shortest end of the stick when they can drag it on for years at a time?
@@starsalior4503 it's to the best of my recollection and I have no reason to lie to strangers on the internet. If you have an interjection, just make it. Isn't that what the comment section is for? I'm just some guy on the internet so you can take it with as few grains of salt as you can but I didn't try to benefit myself in any way and it doesn't do anything for me. I wanted more to emphasize the message at the end because it is a cruel industry to enter with high hopes and no idea how to claim their possition in that world. There are alot of factors but I'm not going to write you a 2 page exam paper on my stance. Use the comment section and get the convo of this going. I'm always down to see someone elses point of view or experience and I'm pretty sure there are going to be people looking for reads, they might learn something.
@@starsalior4503 it's to the best of my recollection and lying to strangers on the internet does nothing for me. If you have an interjection just speak up it's what the comment section is here for. I'm not about to shoot down anyones experiences because we're all just randoms on the internet so you can take as many grains of salt as you'd like and it wouldn't bother anyone.
Art performances are so bizzare…one video that still haunts me to this day, whenever I think about contemporary art, is a video where a girl struggles to open a can of spaghetti-os cuts open the crotch of her pants and then shoves the pasta up inside her. All while a whole room watches with mixed expressions and takes pictures. I believe the video is still on TH-cam….
I think that people are buying not because they like the performance or the art piece, but because they just want the guy to stop jumping, leaning on moving mud, crumpling paper, beating the shit out of a table or something else which could cause an injury. It's basically begging but with extra steps.
As someone who's actually going to school for art, it's a real slap in the face when people with no real skill make thousands off of their "art." I've been practicing my craft for seven years, but these people will quickly upstage real artists.
only because we let them and don't want to "hurt feelings" or be contentious with the correct assessment that most of this is trash, pushed by vapid and vacuous trash heaps. Like when you don't immediately tell someone their affinity for and adherence to astrology shit or crystals is stupid and has no effect on anything.... Seems harmless, until you realize that if you don't give them the real deal, do you really even care about them?
As someone who is about to graduate next week with my Masters of Fine Arts - contemporary art is the absolute dumbest thing. Teaching my students to just make cool shit and present it with confidence
Contemporary art has been by far the most memorable to me, and has affected me more than any other art form simply because it is completely unrestricted in its medium, and is therefore freer than any other art form to express and convey its message. There is bad art, but the reason you see more bad contemporary art is because you are contemporary. Had you lived in the 1700s, you would have seen all the bad 1700s art that is forgotten and unseen now.
@@TheTealPrince time to accept objectivity means more than what is taught in higher education in regards to what is and isn't ok. Bad art exists and is prolific in affluent and higher class circles, whilst in education you'll believe you're part of this enlightened upper caste - the second you graduate you'll re-join the rest of us unwashed scum in the real world and realise that objective ugliness and deconstruction is a demoralising factor employed against the common person by those on high.
I would be genuinely interested in hearing you talk more about contemporary/ modern art that you are super into. Some performances art pieces are so rad. Thanks as always for the amazing video.
as an artist i can very confidently say that 90% of these are just things the artists made bc they thought it was cool and then they just slapped those insane descriptions on later to make whatever they did look somewhat meaningful
I completely agree. Although I do think it’s fun to make the work first and then figure out what it means after you can take a step back from it. But yeah, a lot of these could be chalked up to BS 😅
13:30 so many years ago I saw parts of this "performance" but the video I knew stopped after the guy pulled out the cane flute thing. I feel so blessed to finally see more of that "performance"
I genuinely like the Joann Bourgeois one. Even if you don’t care about the message, it’s satisfying to watch him climb up the stairs, fall, and then seamlessly bounce up to resume walking up the stairs. It’s like cartoon physics brought to real life.
There’s something cathartic about one of your favorite contemporary artists tearing apart lazy and/or snobby artist projects lol. Sucks when the faux deep art exhibits overshadow genuinely talented modern artists. ALSO if anyone wants an example of awesome contemporary art, Ron Mueck does crazy hyper-realistic giant sculptures.
The Ryobi sneaker drills were displayed until some guy in a green sweater ran in, said something about 'teaching them to learn to walk on land', and threw them into an aquarium.
I love whoever edits these videos, at 21:31 papa says “Paris” and they added a half second of Kanye’s “gentlemen in Paris” it’s the little things that kill me in these videos
Man, these captchas are getting sophisticated. I haven't seen the puzzle piece yet, but I can tell there's no way some machine could manage that Herculean task.
What is wild about the Robot arm isn't so much that it's trying to clean up the pool. But I remember it on a reddit post: "No piece of art has ever emotionally affected me the way this robot arm piece has. It's programmed to try to contain the hydraulic fluid that’s constantly leaking out and required to keep itself running...if too much escapes, it will die so it's desperately trying to pull it back to continue to fight for another day. Saddest part is they gave the robot the ability to do these 'happy dances' to spectators. When the project was first launched it danced around spending most of its time interacting with the crowd since it could quickly pull back the small spillage. Many years later... (as you see it now in the video) it looks tired and hopeless as there isn't enough time to dance anymore.. It now only has enough time to try to keep itself alive as the amount of leaked hydraulic fluid became unmanageable as the spill grew over time. Living its last days in a never-ending cycle between sustaining life and simultaneously bleeding out... (Figuratively and literally as its hydraulic fluid was purposefully made to look like it's actual blood). "The robot arm finally ran out of hydraulic fluid in 2019, slowly came to a halt and died "
yeah idk about the whole immigration thing, but the hopelessness and monotony it makes people feel is definitely real, what I also think is interesting is how we as humans give this machine human emotions, and most people feel like the machine is sad or we're sad for it, just another interesting layer
I found the answer to this. The arm is a KUKA model KR180 R3100 K. It has a footprint of 800mm x 830mm and a weight of approximately 1168kg, costing $19.000. it is rated to lift 180kg but can lift 230kg at most. It‘s ambient temperature during operation is 10 °C to 55 °C. It‘s controller is a KR C4 It could fit in a large enough home, given it has enough room.
I feel like the deeper the meaning you try to staple to contemporary art the less it means. You can absolutely do silly things for art, but embracing the silly somehow feels more substantial.
“This comment is about how humans and governments are fragile and how small we really are and look how deep we are!” - basically every modern “””art””” piece.
Please talk about "I can't help myself" aka that robot arm that is constantly bleeding out. That is one of the few modern art exhibits that actually had meaning for me and hits hard in the feels.
The SECOND I saw the guy walk out at 12:43 and saw that menacing stare I knew what was gonna happen 😭 I saw that clip a long time ago and remember cackling like a seal. It’s so unhinged and the fact that it was performance art is the cherry on top.
I just wanted to say, as far as art goes, you Papa Meat and Junji Ito have always been the two people I look up to the most with my art. You both have an amazing talent for body horror and giving fear a new name with story lines being incredibly unique and fascinating. Thank you for helping me accept my love of body horror artwork and pursuing on my journey of making my own.
I’m a big Beksinski fan. He’s created some of the most harrowing and dark works of art I’ve seen. His experience under Nazi and Soviet control in his home country of Poland really adds layers to the art. His use of Prussian blue in some of his art is made from the same chemicals used in the gas chambers in concentration camps. Other artists I’d recommend are: Otto Dix, John Martin, Vladimir Kush, Heironymous Bosch, MC Escher, Gustav Dore, and Bruegel
I just got the “The Shrink” part and dude that is not a new thing it’s literally just like this weird kink where people get sealed in layers of latex and have a tube to breathe.
I saw the banana on TikTok like five months ago and boy did I rant about modern art in my “should video games be considered art” topic discussion for school.
Sun Yuan und Peng Yu (the people who made “can’t help myself”) have another piece of art where they brought the dead corpse of Siamese twin babies and injected the babies with their own blood, then later one of them fed liposuctioned human fat and fed it to a baby/child corpse. They made the art after they got married.
Papa Meat is one the best channels TH-cam has to offer truly. I cant get enough of this content. I dont know your name Papa Meat dude but you are awesome. The world needs many more people like you.
I respect the goofy-ahh drill shoes because it's like a representation of wandering, and maybe machines failing to fill the position of humanity, and the Umbrella over the bucket representing some idea of sheltering ourselves from being fufilled in life. Maybe like a representaion of the fear of failure so you may never try or in an effort to protect yourself or ego, you dont pursue what would boast it. Idk. Like those ones in a weird way. And the robot with fluid.
28:07 the “art” is the machine arm is leaking hydraulic fluid that makes the arm move, is the equivalent of a human being hooked up to a machine that drains the blood and pours it onto the floor and the person has to scoop it up into an area that will collect the blood and pump into into the person or they will die from the blood loss.
@Tiger10002 Taking a look at your channel, it's just gameplay videos and tiktok re-uploads, how is a professional camera going to help for either of those things?
I'm finishing my BFA this week and going into my MFA and HOH BOY I love that one of my fave animators is covering a topic I deal with multiple times a week. I openly hate the pretentious, which y'all can guess how that's going with being in the art school system. I'm finishing a 5 minute animatic for one class (basically a butt ton of physical labor) and in one of my art history discussion classes, my professor brought up Haim Steinbach's Supremely Black (google it and be disappointed). It was EXCRUTIATING watching my classmates try to intellectualize it- mainly because these are smart people who were able to make it sound much smarter than it is. I eventually just said that we should move on because bullshit artists depend on intelligent people to validate them. This wouldn't be an issue except they're taking up time and space from real artists who both have good art and smart things to say. I'd rather discuss the many other great works of art (even contemporary ones!) in the limited class time I'm paying thousands for. TL;DR Being in the fine arts field, I'm so glad you're talking about this because I believe the only way to get rid of these bullshitters is by challenging them. Truth is, they don't stand a chance against real/good artists and they know it. Call em on it.
The funny part about all these obscure art pieces is that it’s not so much about why, but why not. Hey as long as someone is entertained or can even laugh at it then I guess it has some sort of meaning or purpose.
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just watched the art vid to then see
you here, crazy
5:22 they're wax sculptures
The guy with the pole😂
I'm literally wearing my Metallica t-shirt as I watch this.
When I was younger someone told me that modern art is all about the idea, not the execution and that made modern art make sense. Then a few years ago someone told me that modern art is mainly a way for the wealthy to launder their money and that made modern art make way more sense.
Maybe the artists make it for one reason and the rich buy it for the other reason.
well idk why the artists would care about why the artists would care especially because the rich only pay them a commision and then later on let some art critic overprice it. Zero chance any of that money is making back to the artist
@@clarkmichaels822 yeah, wasn't so much trying to criticize the artists, just it's an explanation of why some of it sells for so much.
@soberstoners7610 eh, I get it. I've seen some stuff that I thought was really great. A lot of the artists are in it for the right reasons, but one of the main things about it all is that there is no right reasons. Art is an can be anything. even if it's just a money laundering scheme you could still say that that is a very clear representation of the world and times we live in. I don't know, if you go in thinking "is it art?" Then you've already ruined your experience. It's kind of an embrace of the idea that it's all what you get from it.
Even with the idea explanation it's worthless. Making something for someone else's interpretation is lazy. Good art has intention and meaning.
you forgot the art piece called "Take the Money and Run" which is just a straight up blank canvas and is worth $84k
didn't that guy get sued for fraud?
Totally didnt give any context. It was a danish artist who wanted to protest how badly artists were payed by museums (because the pay is SHIT). He was commisioned by a danish museum to make a piece for them. He asked them for 84k in cash as a part of the piece. The museum thought they were getting a physical piece, instead they Got a brilliant conceptual piece. The artist had taken the money that was supposed to be Used for the piece, and simply ran off. What was left was a blank canvas.
People who shit on modern art refuse to find context for anything. Instead, yall are just stuck up on old facist beliefs about beuty and what art Can be.
@@BlueSorcerer You dorks throw around the word "fascist" so much that it has lost all its meaning. Not that you were using it correctly to begin with, but man... what an embarrassing post.
@@BlueSorcererwow your so smart 👏 you just love money laundering.
@@BlueSorcererhe literally stole someone’s money and called it art it’s funny if nothing else
Shit. I should cover myself in paint, set some canvases on some stairs, and fall down it. I'll call it "The Fall of Mankind".
Literally do it. Get that bag lmao
This is actually fire tho
Don’t even need the paint if you fall just right
And you my friend, are the modern artists now. 👏👏👏
Holy shit go for it
That giant child being held was more art than that man smacking butter with a microphone.
Actually got me thinking
sorry to break it to you bud but thats not a man
@@KarasuuX It's Jewish, so it most likely will try to be at some point. 🏳️⚧️
"Art can be whatever you want it to be"
Some folks have taken that to the extreme
and that's absolutely fine.
it's just for money laundering, even the creators know this ain't art
*h a r s h n o i s e m u s i c*
@@Senorcyborg No, it's not fine.
Looking at you, Colonel Sanders. with your particular taste in anime.
The saddest part about the hydraulic system that was cleaning its own oil so it wouldn’t die- is that initially it was also programmed to wave and engage with patrons and would have to balance the interactions with gathering the oil. But as time went on and the machine lost more and more fluid, it had to spend less time waving and dancing and more time cleaning, until it ultimately had to cut out engaging with the audience all together in order to survive. And it eventually stopped anyway. An intense piece.
I love that peice.
Contemporary artists are like the guy who's a checkout bagger at a grocery store, but puts "Goods Management and Transportation Specialist" on their resume. 55% confidence, 44% audacity, 1% artistic skill.
100% concentrated power of will
True. But I'd argue that all three characteristics exist within all artists *who put their work out for consumption... The ratios definitely vary- Especially the percentage of artistic skill- But it takes all three things to do it
Not always, I’d argue performance artists kinda lean more into this, but a lot of artists I’ve known have a ton of learned skills in things like ceramics and painting that take years to actually get good at, and a lot of them are pretty chill and normal people. The stuff you’re talking about tends to become more of an issue with highly successful artists (financially speaking) who buy into their own hype. Also, not coming at u specifically, but the trend of calling artists unskilled is kinda pretentious atp too
You're not qualified to judge artistic skill if you agree with any point made within this video.
@@spankyjeffro5320anyones allowed to judge anything, thats how these kinds of contemporary art get valued so high, from the average person critiquing it
1:40 Yoko Ono making dolphin sounds into a microphone and infuriating the other band members will never not be hilarious.
idk people shit on Ono too hard man. If you ever do any digging no one is pissed at her, and like really she is just expressing herself. People blame her for the break up of the Beatles but that is ridiculous and there are so many factors that lead to the end of the Beatles. I hate to say it but a lot of it is sexism, and I dont throw that word around lightly like extremist feminists do. Everyone does goofy stuff but when she does it it’s pretentious and she gets shit for it. Idk knowing what she has been through with watching the love of her life get brutally murdered and taken away from her right before her eyes, holding his cold body as he dies. She has never re married either. idk. give yoko ono a fucking break
@@sexdeathfashion i only know yoko ono from the soundtrack of rushmore. this makes her even better. let her do what she wants!!!!
@@sexdeathfashionshe is the reason John Lennon magnified into a piece of shit. She’s the reason he was a deadbeat to his son Julian and why Paul McCartney had to step in to fill that role for Julian. She’s the one who kept his ego inflated, which led him to assume more and more control of the Beatles name without input from the other members. You can defend her all you want but her and Lennon were pieces of shits who tried to be a symbol of love and freedom all the while enjoying the privileges of upper class society.
I think people blaming Yoko is wrong, Lennon was his own person. I disagree though that she can just do what she wants on performances. I mean what she was doing made what Chuck Berry was doing irrelevant as you couldn't hear his stuff, or the rest of the band.
@@sexdeathfashion no she didnt end the beatles that claim is silly, however she doesnt seem like a nice person she did some pretty awful stuff to one of lenons sons after his death forgot which one but look in to it if youre intressted. besides that she does seem pretty pretentious to me not silly fun.
I love the really small, quick memes the editor puts in, like when he says "Paris" at 18:49 and like one second of "fine distinguished gentlemen of African descent in Paris" plays
was looking to see if anyone else noticed this it was so brief
I went to art school and once my professor went to this huge art gallery and put an empty soda can on the floor in the way it looked like it was part of the exhibition. People started gathering around the soda can, taking pictures and arguing about the meaning behind it. And I think it says a lot about this whole deal w fine arts.
God your professor was a heck of troll. Lol. 😂😂😂
It feels like the fine art world is made up of trolls and investors who don't realize they're being trolled.
And the trolls don't realize that the investors are money launderers, and know full well that the art pieces are near worthless garbage.
It legit is. Some of the best artists out there are enormous trolls, even back during the Renaissance.
A perfect example is a rich prick buying Banksy art (a STREET artist who is aggressively anti-consumerist) that automatically shredded itself when it sold.
Partially. They realized that a certain demographic of people was spending millions on trivial nonsense to launder money. So they took the opportunity. I’m sure it was unintentional for some, but I bet most knew what they were doing.
*they're
@@Arum638 thats because it broke halfway, banksy fucked up and made it a metaphor instead of a protest
I remember the glasses one was actually a prank/experiment. Some guy just decided at an art gallery to see what would happen if he left his glasses on the floor like it was an exhibition.
Genius
It was staged
I stupidly did fine art as my university course, I lasted 2 years and dropped out in the 3rd. Sad thing is? I liked drawing when I went in, I haven’t picked up a pencil or a pen since and that was 6 years ago now.
Some of the most pretentious, stuck up people, students & staff I’ve ever had to sadly meet.
Your videos are fine art to me
I went to college initially to get a BFA degree, and after three years came to the conclusion that most contemporary "fine art" was all just a bunch of pretentious bullshit. After realizing that this would never translate to an actual career that would put a roof over my head, I switched to graphic design.
@@c_huntermcWell at least ya pivoted to something that'll feed ya, nice.
man i can feel the pain from your comment already. same with film school for me, just straight up stay away from any art related school shit
I remember when back in like 2017 me, my brother and my older sister went to this art gallery (in Finland). Most of the so called art there was 💩 I particularly remember one where there was a ladder and in front of the ladder was some man figurine made of clay, with it's mouth open. There were punch of pretentious looking people staring at it like it was some groundbreaking, glorious thing. When they saw that we were shaking our heads while trying to hold in our laughter, they looked at us like we were some ignorant plebeians, it was hilarious!
I did fine arts, the hardest part was dealing with the myopic, nacissistic, chronic masturbating idealiots who took themselves way too seriously. You've thrown a blanket over a stack of used tires, you're not changing the world Ignatius! Anyway, I digress, for one of my assignments I went to the art Gallery for inspiration. There was a room that was being repainted by tradesmen (contractors), I know this was the case because when I got to the gallery these guys were setting up drop sheets & ladders & setting down paint buckets, then they went to lunch. I ended up spending the better part of an hour watching people gawk at the room wondering what the installation meant & taking pictures. I stood closely hearing the more learned art connoisseurs explain the symbology of the items on display to their friends. These pearls of wisdom exclaimed louder than required to enlighten the other watchers staring into the gaping maw of banality. It was an ode to the possibilities of the creative mind, a critique on censorship of the arts, a mournful tribute to the temporary nature of modern art, etc, etc. It was hillarious but I couldn't blame them, the room next door had a step ladder with glasses of water on it.
His parents named him _Ignatius._ He never had a chance.
It's a reference @@kattastic9999
I love this story from the Netherlands where a modern artist reported to the police that their piece of modern art that was on display in a park was stolen. It turned out that the 'thieves' were park cleaners who thought that the artwork was litter and so they threw it in a dumpster.
lol the "shrink wrap" is 100% a fetish object. I had a ... friend who wired up his house with a sort of central vacuum so he could put himself in the vac bed silently. (He also had a dead man's switch so the vac stayed on as long as his finger was pressing the trigger.)
Vac beds are HUGE on the bondage scene, but the way it was portrayed in the art is significantly less lewd, all the participants are clothed and most vac beds are solid black.
It’s also very derivative of cable to Touro blade movies. He did it better
That person was 100% you
Brother?
I require the *heavy* flamer.
as someone who also went to art school (wish I didn't, but I was dumb and 17 when I decided to go), once we had a student exhibit where a student covered a chair completely in kraft cheese whiz. Not a single inch of that chair was uncovered, and it stunk up the room completely, but my professor kept going on about how "revolutionary" it was or whatever.
Same exhibit, another student recorded a conversation between her and her neglectful mother, and played it over gameplay footage of two Sims talking. It was incredibly uncomfortable to sit thru, and professor kept insisting it was "her animation" even though it was CLEARLY Sims footage. I'm glad I transferred out for the following semester
That sounds horrific
So it‘s literally a place full of dumbasses? Good to know.
peak../.
Art school sounds like a bunch of deranged lunatics gathered in one place💀
A Sims mod which updated all the conversations into the arguments between her and her mother sounds kind of lit tbh
I’m just glad I’m not the only one who thinks these ppl are awesome con artist. That old man with the buckets goes home and laughs while counting money of fools.
The duct tape banana is my roman empire. If anyone's art belongs in a museum, Papa Meat's ABSOLUTELY deserves a spot. Not only is it skilled and profound, but traumatizing children is extremely funny
Theres a picture of the buyer of the art piece eating the same banana
@@Chrissywhissyno
@Chrissywhissy i thought some one just walked up and ate it of the wall
YOOOOOOOOO
I love your music
I can't tell if my post is getting deleted or if youtube is bugging
Papa meat is probably one of the few people that have put their fine arts major into an actual use, this channel is art
His is very talented.checkout his other channel called meatcanyon.
@@Psartz i guarantee you every single person that is here came from his fist channel lol
Yo retro, just in case someone doesn't know, why not plug like Psartz did..? Maybe they got here off of a listicle algorithm, yeah? 😉👍
I came from creep cast then got put on meatcanyon- might love this guy more than Wendi now
@@retrogamer5835 i came from creepcast so...
24:50
"You don't directly drink the water from the sink because you think it is dirty. Then you don't eat the apple until it cleaned, but you will eat the apple after you clean it by the sink water."
- Chris Hu
That was good though
I remember in art school this one dude did a really cool renaissance tier pen and pencil drawing with angels and stuff. The teacher and the rest of the class were disinterested even though he was the most skilled person in the class because they didn't get any message from it.
Well i mean skill has very little meaning in my opinion because art is so subjective to begin with. You can be skillfull at a specific style but if you don't do anything unique with that style what are you really bringing to the table meaning wise.
@@junebug9841 5userdfgliytfjyxduf75dkyrdci.ub htutfutf,utxc.lugj,b nbgv
Now that was pretty unique wasn't it. Arfully typed that with some beautiful motion with the fingers on my right hand. Look at the meaning I brought to the table Im so unique
@@junebug9841 fine art isnt unique
Even if he was an amateur he still be a skill artist.
@@junebug9841 You're looking for meaning in something that has none. It's all in your head.
I like how some random guy dropped his glasses and they rush to take photos cause they think its a part of the exhibit
If I remember correctly it was someone who just placed their glasses by the wall and stepped away to stare at it. After a crowd started to gather, he walked up and put his glasses back on and walked away. 😂
A part
Art piece of the century
@@A_Wild_Dyzzynow that’s art of trolling
actual bots LOL
"The formless form" "The dance of creation that leads to nothingness"
That's some JRPG shit right there.
DANXE WITH ME LOIS! DANCE THEBDANCE OF LIFE!
toddlers can also unconsciously express themselves through drawing and coloring randomly. they do it all the time. but when a grown adult does it suddenly its 50 million? Where's these toddler's paychecks at?
A toddler artist's paycheck would be a loving parent's appreciation for their little creations ❤ I have a little one, almost a year old; every time she is creative I feel a sense of pride well up inside my chest ❤ I hope you've experienced, or will experience such a feeling! It's so rewarding ❤❤❤
I kid you not the argument of modern arts lovers is that it’s better because artists use a different part of their brain then the babies.
@@henotic.essenceLike a little snack or toy store for them! Turn in ur cool little art and get a reward! Would be so cool
I saw a kid drawing of a white cat in a glass that looked like a glass of milk. it was called a glass of meowlk and that kid should be paid I think
@@henotic.essenceI was going to say, I think children’s art is such a sweet and special snapshot of a moment in time. Kids are so pure in their expression too, they draw something just because they think it. They don’t judge their artistic ideas, they just do it.
I am an art professor & honestly if you can bullshit a concept you can be a fine artist. Wild but the whole career of being an artist is about gaslighting the viewers into thinking your work is ~DEEP AND UNIQUE~
Where do you teach
Gaslighting? Not really bro
Got a bachelors in fine art over 10 years ago and it’s true. As long as you can write well you can bullshit it. You could do a dot on a piece of paper and if you write well enough and reference enough artists you’ll pass.
It actually has very little to do with what the artist says, its about what the "art world" says it means and they are one's bullshiting everyone, not the artists themselves.
If you can bullshit a concept and* surround yourself with rich ‘yes men’
For the metal heads, the song at 23:49 is Sajo by Phalanx. certified banger! had to use a chrome extension called "AHA music finder" .
you're an angel.
And the snippet at 15:04 (Sad Spongebob) is from "Reasons for waiting" on the 1969 Stand up album by Jethro Tull, I love Prog music
You've done us all service!
Only reason I came to the comments was to return this to you. 👑
o7 salute, thanks for saving the hour or 2 it would've taken for me to find it man
30:29 Papa Meat: "If you're thinking about going to art school..."
The 4% of your fans watching: *shatters into dust artistically*
He cut a piece of the video out it’s only 28 minutes now
@@MaxPopp-ej7fxi thought I was going crazy, I knew I had remembered that weird performance of the dude hitting the metal pole with a cane taped to him. Glad to know I didn't imagine it.
2:21 Glasses Left behind was actually a test, some guy looked at all the garbage on display and thought these people are so up their own asses, that if he put his glasses on the gerund they would be dumb enough to think it was art, and it worked.
A similar experiment was done at a college, a professor showed his students a painting and asked them to tell why it was brilliant, they all gave him word salad answers, then he revealed the painting was just a photo of his apron.
Modern art is proof, their is a sucker born every minute.
@@Arum638prageru sucks and shouldn’t be trusted anyways
@@Arum638 it's not "the professor said it was a pollock painting and everyone believed it", it's "the professor said it was a brilliant piece and everyone retroactively gave it meaning". the thing being proven wasn't that you can say something was made by someone it wasn't, it was that a lot of these people only engage superficially and say stuff to sound smart instead of actually having opinions or seeing real meaning.
Between modern art and wine tasting scammers be makin that bag
The fact that you're talking about it though means it's art
That professor was not trying to prove contemporary art is bullshit, nor that art lovers are fools. He was testing their artistic sensibilities, being able to talk about art and theorize. This obviously went over your head and the heads of everyone in this comment section.
>do stupid shit
>describe it with big words
>???
>profit
3:23 "IGORS" theme, a really nice choice its these subtle details you throw in that make me appreciate your channel and hard work.
RIDIN ROUND TOWN THEY GONE FEEL THIS ONE🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
12:55 this video was genuinely wiped completely from my brain i don't even remember where i saw it but having that forcefully pulled out of the memory vault was jarring
I too have dropped my snare drum on the ground before and got sounds I never thought a snare drum could make.
I remember going to the museum of contemporary art in London. It was filled with weird random color goopy paintings and also a signed toilet.
I had so much fun trying to interpret each painting with my friends.
I made exaggerated gestures and used big words. It went so far that a couple asian tourists looked at me as if i actually knew wtf i was talking about.
So there is definitely some fun to be found in this weird shit
We need more heckling at these art shows. The only thing that would make it real art is some dude in the back yelling “YOU SUCK!”
The absolute state of "modern art" is perfectly encapsulated by the "sands of time" being recorded in portrait mode.
The snare drum got me soo good. It was like a shitpost
Yeah thats all noise music, its all just a big fuck you and i love it. Check out gerogerigegege, they released a “album” full of broken cassettes in a box and told you to shake it to “make your own album” its funny as shit i love them
i nearly died laughing
@@mona6317 Hanatarash, too. They did the ultimate shitpost with a bulldozer 😂😂😂
"Can't Help Myself" is the only piece of contemporary art that has moved me. For some reason, it just breaks me down man.
It’s interesting how humans can empathize with almost anything, even a giant steel robot arm
@@woecelto be fair it’s designed to garner empathy from the viewer. The piece is designed to show despite how much we try to hold ourselves together we will fall apart and stop functioning altogether in the end. Regardless of how much we try to lengthen our time we all have a the same ending (in the open ended sense where end means death, and not the specific type of death that befalls a person). So yeah, we can relate to that very well on an existential level. But I agree wholeheartedly it’s wild to think I can feel so deeply for a robot that was built to die, and look that way - but we personify everything because it’s how we can most relate to the world around us.
@@H3_remixok WOW
@@H3_remixthe dumb part is it’s not designed with that in mind, the original artist said it was about immigration, he just got lucky and happened to make a piece that can be attributed with an idea that deep
it's a shame the artists behind it are so unethical
I love that there’s some love for load and reload, I love that album and I never see people talk about it
drummer here that was deep into solo snare performance in high school; i recommend checking out "Asventuras" by Alexej Gerassimez for some "experimental" snare goodness that is genuinely musical and very cool to listen to. its on youtube
Sounds like something an alternate would say!
@@christianlowman2698 don't think it does hoss!!
Classical art is about the art, modern art is about the artist.
No. It’s all money laundering
I agree except i think classical art is both
Are we ignoring romantisisme and realism, those movements were literaly abt the artist
@@jay4387romanticism was during the early 20th century right? Like the 30s and 40s? Or was it late 18th century?
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That giant clay sculpture’s meaning to me, as a ceramic artist, expresses your art pushing you away and your love and tenacity working against it to make it love you and become a piece of Fine Art.
The industrial robot was really interesting to me too because I’m also a mechanical engineer and if I could have made a living creature out of metal that would be it. With a known flaw that it has to always correct, it’s like the airplane industry using all their money to fly safely.
If the shrink-wrap malfunctions that's a terrifying way to die
The Ryobi drill vs Milwaukee drill bit had me in stitches. I’ve worked with both visiting their manufacturing ops in Guangzhou. They’re under the same parent company and manufacture their tools at the same factory anyway lol
I unironically love the drills rotating in shoes.
Imagine turning a corner into an alley to find a pair of shoes rolling vaguely in your direction.
The robot trying to clean up the oil reminds me of a man trying to hold in his own intestines from spilling out.
Fun fact about the hydraulic fluid machine is that it's not hydraulic. It is electric. Did all that for nothing.
Wow.... Honestly that makes it even more sad 😢
No but you don’t understand… it’s about immigration apparently
@@Oscar-b5b4x lol what?
Yeah, hydraulic oil needs to be kept dry and dirt free or it can cause damage. Also it is replaced once in a while.
@@Oscar-b5b4x Pretty sure they meant for the robot to represent a totalitarian regime desperately trying to keep people from leaving the country. They fucked it up real bad and made an art piece of working yourself to death for nothing. I love this planet.
The prerequisite to be an artist now is not the talent and hard work to hone your craft, but the sheer audacity and fart-sniffing self-aggrandizement to consider be one.
18:22 with charcoal it’s art. With crayons 🖍️ it’s a 15 minute time out in the corner 😭.
With the buckets of sand that topple under their own weight, that sounds like a great metaphor that you write into a book about geopolitical turmoil or that a character recites in a revolutionary fantasy novel, not an entire standalone art piece.
I really enjoyed this video. I’d love to see more videos of you talking about contemporary and modern art.
Modern art is a rich people loop hole for the most part. And everyone is basically in it together, very rare is it an actual "new upsommung artist" that hasn't been planted there by someone rich and got hyped up to make their work worth money. Then if they get a piece worth something they can donate it and count it as a charitable tax write off especially if the art in question was worth millions. So to everyone trying to break into it either keep dreaming, find someone rich that you can pull this scheme off with or get so good and so much exposure you can't be denied your place.
Wouldn't it just be easier to donate for a tax write off? Like mail a check or put this whole "scheme" together..
crazy how you made this all up
@@MoreReds it'd be easier to set them up to win the lottery. Everyone gets a good check and status to a degree. That's long term money. Why would they want the shortest end of the stick when they can drag it on for years at a time?
@@starsalior4503 it's to the best of my recollection and I have no reason to lie to strangers on the internet. If you have an interjection, just make it. Isn't that what the comment section is for? I'm just some guy on the internet so you can take it with as few grains of salt as you can but I didn't try to benefit myself in any way and it doesn't do anything for me. I wanted more to emphasize the message at the end because it is a cruel industry to enter with high hopes and no idea how to claim their possition in that world. There are alot of factors but I'm not going to write you a 2 page exam paper on my stance. Use the comment section and get the convo of this going. I'm always down to see someone elses point of view or experience and I'm pretty sure there are going to be people looking for reads, they might learn something.
@@starsalior4503 it's to the best of my recollection and lying to strangers on the internet does nothing for me. If you have an interjection just speak up it's what the comment section is here for. I'm not about to shoot down anyones experiences because we're all just randoms on the internet so you can take as many grains of salt as you'd like and it wouldn't bother anyone.
Art performances are so bizzare…one video that still haunts me to this day, whenever I think about contemporary art, is a video where a girl struggles to open a can of spaghetti-os cuts open the crotch of her pants and then shoves the pasta up inside her. All while a whole room watches with mixed expressions and takes pictures. I believe the video is still on TH-cam….
What
Whats the name?
This isn't even art it's just self harm. Girl needs help :/
@@tapestapes0 Interior Semiotics
@@mahouhobo3855man's did his research 😂😂
I think that people are buying not because they like the performance or the art piece, but because they just want the guy to stop jumping, leaning on moving mud, crumpling paper, beating the shit out of a table or something else which could cause an injury. It's basically begging but with extra steps.
As someone who's actually going to school for art, it's a real slap in the face when people with no real skill make thousands off of their "art." I've been practicing my craft for seven years, but these people will quickly upstage real artists.
only because we let them and don't want to "hurt feelings" or be contentious with the correct assessment that most of this is trash, pushed by vapid and vacuous trash heaps. Like when you don't immediately tell someone their affinity for and adherence to astrology shit or crystals is stupid and has no effect on anything.... Seems harmless, until you realize that if you don't give them the real deal, do you really even care about them?
what is a real artist?
I blame the people who give highly conceptual substance over style art attention more than the people who make the art
@@TrainerGoldAltYou create something that can't be easily replicated by an untrained person
@@TrainerGoldAltoh shut up don’t be like that.
As someone who is about to graduate next week with my Masters of Fine Arts - contemporary art is the absolute dumbest thing. Teaching my students to just make cool shit and present it with confidence
Contemporary art has been by far the most memorable to me, and has affected me more than any other art form simply because it is completely unrestricted in its medium, and is therefore freer than any other art form to express and convey its message.
There is bad art, but the reason you see more bad contemporary art is because you are contemporary. Had you lived in the 1700s, you would have seen all the bad 1700s art that is forgotten and unseen now.
@@TheTealPrinceI know you felt so skibidi typing this
@@TheTealPrince time to accept objectivity means more than what is taught in higher education in regards to what is and isn't ok. Bad art exists and is prolific in affluent and higher class circles, whilst in education you'll believe you're part of this enlightened upper caste - the second you graduate you'll re-join the rest of us unwashed scum in the real world and realise that objective ugliness and deconstruction is a demoralising factor employed against the common person by those on high.
I mean, presenting "cool stuff with confidence" is where contemporary art comes from. That's all these people are doing.
@@Emojicat-k9 I did
Pls do more videos on art! It’s very fun watching you talk about things you know a lot about
12:01 the face he makes after trying his best to say "indefinableness" and then getting immediately sucker punched by "flagrancy" just destroyed me
I think they removed that part. The vid is shorter now. I was drinking a milkshake and almost spit it out, then choked on it
I would be genuinely interested in hearing you talk more about contemporary/ modern art that you are super into. Some performances art pieces are so rad. Thanks as always for the amazing video.
Dude I love Load and ReLoad, Outlaw Torn and Bleeding Me are bangers.
as an artist i can very confidently say that 90% of these are just things the artists made bc they thought it was cool and then they just slapped those insane descriptions on later to make whatever they did look somewhat meaningful
I completely agree. Although I do think it’s fun to make the work first and then figure out what it means after you can take a step back from it. But yeah, a lot of these could be chalked up to BS 😅
13:30 so many years ago I saw parts of this "performance" but the video I knew stopped after the guy pulled out the cane flute thing. I feel so blessed to finally see more of that "performance"
I genuinely like the Joann Bourgeois one. Even if you don’t care about the message, it’s satisfying to watch him climb up the stairs, fall, and then seamlessly bounce up to resume walking up the stairs. It’s like cartoon physics brought to real life.
There’s something cathartic about one of your favorite contemporary artists tearing apart lazy and/or snobby artist projects lol. Sucks when the faux deep art exhibits overshadow genuinely talented modern artists.
ALSO if anyone wants an example of awesome contemporary art, Ron Mueck does crazy hyper-realistic giant sculptures.
The Ryobi sneaker drills were displayed until some guy in a green sweater ran in, said something about 'teaching them to learn to walk on land', and threw them into an aquarium.
Last night I awoke in the dead of night, flung out of bed, and began inventing machines
Every peice of art I would make would be described as "idk, I thought it would be neat."
Man as an art student it is wild to see some of the bizarre pretentious post-modern slop that gets into a gallery and becomes successful lol
I also got a BFarts in illustration. It does wonders for my job as a supervisor at an electrical supply warehouse.
Do you all call it Bfarts on purpose as a joke or what 😂
How r u even qualified to be a supervisor
It's doing wonders for me as a pizza delivery driver as well 😌
@@D9t-p8w yes
@@Sluglove I learned how to scam people in art school and tricked them into making me the boss
The snare drum dude sounds like a rave when your in the bathroom
I love whoever edits these videos, at 21:31 papa says “Paris” and they added a half second of Kanye’s “gentlemen in Paris” it’s the little things that kill me in these videos
Gentleman in Paris I love that Kanye made it so difficult for everyone to talk about that song.
I was hoping someone else noticed lol
Lmaaooo I peeped that too came to the comments to see if anyone else noticed there’s one at 18:50 too😂😂
Art is so simple nowadays,
tape+banna
Sand+bucket
umbrella+ bucket
Table+rocket
Man with long hair+ drums+ bad mic+ audience
Man, these captchas are getting sophisticated. I haven't seen the puzzle piece yet, but I can tell there's no way some machine could manage that Herculean task.
What is wild about the Robot arm isn't so much that it's trying to clean up the pool. But I remember it on a reddit post:
"No piece of art has ever emotionally affected me the way this robot arm piece has. It's programmed to try to contain the hydraulic fluid that’s constantly leaking out and required to keep itself running...if too much escapes, it will die so it's desperately trying to pull it back to continue to fight for another day. Saddest part is they gave the robot the ability to do these 'happy dances' to spectators. When the project was first launched it danced around spending most of its time interacting with the crowd since it could quickly pull back the small spillage. Many years later... (as you see it now in the video) it looks tired and hopeless as there isn't enough time to dance anymore.. It now only has enough time to try to keep itself alive as the amount of leaked hydraulic fluid became unmanageable as the spill grew over time. Living its last days in a never-ending cycle between sustaining life and simultaneously bleeding out... (Figuratively and literally as its hydraulic fluid was purposefully made to look like it's actual blood). "The robot arm finally ran out of hydraulic fluid in 2019, slowly came to a halt and died "
I've heard it was electric powered but still the message is powerful... until the artists said it was about immigration which makes 0 sense
yeah idk about the whole immigration thing, but the hopelessness and monotony it makes people feel is definitely real, what I also think is interesting is how we as humans give this machine human emotions, and most people feel like the machine is sad or we're sad for it, just another interesting layer
Is the robotic arm for sale? How well do you think it will fit in a living room?
I found the answer to this.
The arm is a KUKA model KR180 R3100 K. It has a footprint of 800mm x 830mm and a weight of approximately 1168kg, costing $19.000. it is rated to lift 180kg but can lift 230kg at most.
It‘s ambient temperature during operation is 10 °C to 55 °C. It‘s controller is a KR C4
It could fit in a large enough home, given it has enough room.
Okay, now I’m really sad :(
I feel like the deeper the meaning you try to staple to contemporary art the less it means. You can absolutely do silly things for art, but embracing the silly somehow feels more substantial.
“This comment is about how humans and governments are fragile and how small we really are and look how deep we are!”
- basically every modern “””art””” piece.
Please talk about "I can't help myself" aka that robot arm that is constantly bleeding out. That is one of the few modern art exhibits that actually had meaning for me and hits hard in the feels.
I love the look of "Why?" @12:10
"You know I'm illiterate. Why would you put such big words in my script?"
As soon as I saw the metal pole dancing I knew exactly what motion on particular guy was gonna do with his hips. Love that clip
Its even more sad, that liquid is its "blood"(hydrolic fluid) it has to collect said pool while slowly bleeding out and losing pressure.
The concept was pretty cool but if I remember correctly, the artist lied as he couldn't get it working without electric motors
The SECOND I saw the guy walk out at 12:43 and saw that menacing stare I knew what was gonna happen 😭 I saw that clip a long time ago and remember cackling like a seal. It’s so unhinged and the fact that it was performance art is the cherry on top.
Exactly what I thought 😭
I just wanted to say, as far as art goes, you Papa Meat and Junji Ito have always been the two people I look up to the most with my art. You both have an amazing talent for body horror and giving fear a new name with story lines being incredibly unique and fascinating. Thank you for helping me accept my love of body horror artwork and pursuing on my journey of making my own.
I agree Load and Reload are great. Outlaw Torn is still one of my favorites.
I’m a big Beksinski fan. He’s created some of the most harrowing and dark works of art I’ve seen. His experience under Nazi and Soviet control in his home country of Poland really adds layers to the art. His use of Prussian blue in some of his art is made from the same chemicals used in the gas chambers in concentration camps.
Other artists I’d recommend are: Otto Dix, John Martin, Vladimir Kush, Heironymous Bosch, MC Escher, Gustav Dore, and Bruegel
I just got the “The Shrink” part and dude that is not a new thing it’s literally just like this weird kink where people get sealed in layers of latex and have a tube to breathe.
Papa mentioned it 🫡
7:20 I like how they didn’t know whether to clap or not, really sums up the sentiment of this entire video
I saw the banana on TikTok like five months ago and boy did I rant about modern art in my “should video games be considered art” topic discussion for school.
The swinging bucket and galaxy paintings are much better (imo) then anything you shown today.
The machine scooping the oil was pretty neat.
That shrink wrap stuff looks like the beginning of a SAW trap dude....
Sun Yuan und Peng Yu (the people who made “can’t help myself”) have another piece of art where they brought the dead corpse of Siamese twin babies and injected the babies with their own blood, then later one of them fed liposuctioned human fat and fed it to a baby/child corpse. They made the art after they got married.
WHAT .
Papa Meat is one the best channels TH-cam has to offer truly. I cant get enough of this content. I dont know your name Papa Meat dude but you are awesome. The world needs many more people like you.
Roman needs to collab with Ryosuke, get him one of those rocket tables for the snare performance. Now that's something i'd want to witness lol
12:32 That is how you summon Slaanesh right there. All you need is to paint the performers purple and you got a Daemonette.
Yes 😂. Good point.
I respect the goofy-ahh drill shoes because it's like a representation of wandering, and maybe machines failing to fill the position of humanity, and the Umbrella over the bucket representing some idea of sheltering ourselves from being fufilled in life. Maybe like a representaion of the fear of failure so you may never try or in an effort to protect yourself or ego, you dont pursue what would boast it. Idk. Like those ones in a weird way. And the robot with fluid.
bruh its drill with shoe on it, not that deep
2:37 damn hunter lookin buff back in the day (circa 1978)
Fuckin snacc
28:07 the “art” is the machine arm is leaking hydraulic fluid that makes the arm move, is the equivalent of a human being hooked up to a machine that drains the blood and pours it onto the floor and the person has to scoop it up into an area that will collect the blood and pump into into the person or they will die from the blood loss.
That sounds mental as hell, honestly
Mad respect points to papa meat for knowing who Daughters is (was? Not sure if they're still a band)
Thank you, Mr Pringle
Nah
@Tiger10002 Taking a look at your channel, it's just gameplay videos and tiktok re-uploads, how is a professional camera going to help for either of those things?
I'm finishing my BFA this week and going into my MFA and HOH BOY I love that one of my fave animators is covering a topic I deal with multiple times a week. I openly hate the pretentious, which y'all can guess how that's going with being in the art school system. I'm finishing a 5 minute animatic for one class (basically a butt ton of physical labor) and in one of my art history discussion classes, my professor brought up Haim Steinbach's Supremely Black (google it and be disappointed). It was EXCRUTIATING watching my classmates try to intellectualize it- mainly because these are smart people who were able to make it sound much smarter than it is. I eventually just said that we should move on because bullshit artists depend on intelligent people to validate them. This wouldn't be an issue except they're taking up time and space from real artists who both have good art and smart things to say. I'd rather discuss the many other great works of art (even contemporary ones!) in the limited class time I'm paying thousands for.
TL;DR Being in the fine arts field, I'm so glad you're talking about this because I believe the only way to get rid of these bullshitters is by challenging them. Truth is, they don't stand a chance against real/good artists and they know it. Call em on it.
The funny part about all these obscure art pieces is that it’s not so much about why, but why not. Hey as long as someone is entertained or can even laugh at it then I guess it has some sort of meaning or purpose.