Totally didnt give any context. It was a danish artist who wanted to protest how badly artists were payed by museums (because the pay is SHIT). He was commisioned by a danish museum to make a piece for them. He asked them for 84k in cash as a part of the piece. The museum thought they were getting a physical piece, instead they Got a brilliant conceptual piece. The artist had taken the money that was supposed to be Used for the piece, and simply ran off. What was left was a blank canvas. People who shit on modern art refuse to find context for anything. Instead, yall are just stuck up on old facist beliefs about beuty and what art Can be.
@@BlueSorcerer You dorks throw around the word "fascist" so much that it has lost all its meaning. Not that you were using it correctly to begin with, but man... what an embarrassing post.
When I was younger someone told me that modern art is all about the idea, not the execution and that made modern art make sense. Then a few years ago someone told me that modern art is mainly a way for the wealthy to launder their money and that made modern art make way more sense.
well idk why the artists would care about why the artists would care especially because the rich only pay them a commision and then later on let some art critic overprice it. Zero chance any of that money is making back to the artist
@soberstoners7610 eh, I get it. I've seen some stuff that I thought was really great. A lot of the artists are in it for the right reasons, but one of the main things about it all is that there is no right reasons. Art is an can be anything. even if it's just a money laundering scheme you could still say that that is a very clear representation of the world and times we live in. I don't know, if you go in thinking "is it art?" Then you've already ruined your experience. It's kind of an embrace of the idea that it's all what you get from it.
Contemporary artists are like the guy who's a checkout bagger at a grocery store, but puts "Goods Management and Transportation Specialist" on their resume. 55% confidence, 44% audacity, 1% artistic skill.
True. But I'd argue that all three characteristics exist within all artists *who put their work out for consumption... The ratios definitely vary- Especially the percentage of artistic skill- But it takes all three things to do it
Not always, I’d argue performance artists kinda lean more into this, but a lot of artists I’ve known have a ton of learned skills in things like ceramics and painting that take years to actually get good at, and a lot of them are pretty chill and normal people. The stuff you’re talking about tends to become more of an issue with highly successful artists (financially speaking) who buy into their own hype. Also, not coming at u specifically, but the trend of calling artists unskilled is kinda pretentious atp too
I remember the glasses one was actually a prank/experiment. Some guy just decided at an art gallery to see what would happen if he left his glasses on the floor like it was an exhibition.
I stupidly did fine art as my university course, I lasted 2 years and dropped out in the 3rd. Sad thing is? I liked drawing when I went in, I haven’t picked up a pencil or a pen since and that was 6 years ago now. Some of the most pretentious, stuck up people, students & staff I’ve ever had to sadly meet.
I went to college initially to get a BFA degree, and after three years came to the conclusion that most contemporary "fine art" was all just a bunch of pretentious bullshit. After realizing that this would never translate to an actual career that would put a roof over my head, I switched to graphic design.
I remember when back in like 2017 me, my brother and my older sister went to this art gallery (in Finland). Most of the so called art there was 💩 I particularly remember one where there was a ladder and in front of the ladder was some man figurine made of clay, with it's mouth open. There were punch of pretentious looking people staring at it like it was some groundbreaking, glorious thing. When they saw that we were shaking our heads while trying to hold in our laughter, they looked at us like we were some ignorant plebeians, it was hilarious!
toddlers can also unconsciously express themselves through drawing and coloring randomly. they do it all the time. but when a grown adult does it suddenly its 50 million? Where's these toddler's paychecks at?
A toddler artist's paycheck would be a loving parent's appreciation for their little creations ❤ I have a little one, almost a year old; every time she is creative I feel a sense of pride well up inside my chest ❤ I hope you've experienced, or will experience such a feeling! It's so rewarding ❤❤❤
It legit is. Some of the best artists out there are enormous trolls, even back during the Renaissance. A perfect example is a rich prick buying Banksy art (a STREET artist who is aggressively anti-consumerist) that automatically shredded itself when it sold.
Partially. They realized that a certain demographic of people was spending millions on trivial nonsense to launder money. So they took the opportunity. I’m sure it was unintentional for some, but I bet most knew what they were doing.
as someone who also went to art school (wish I didn't, but I was dumb and 17 when I decided to go), once we had a student exhibit where a student covered a chair completely in kraft cheese whiz. Not a single inch of that chair was uncovered, and it stunk up the room completely, but my professor kept going on about how "revolutionary" it was or whatever. Same exhibit, another student recorded a conversation between her and her neglectful mother, and played it over gameplay footage of two Sims talking. It was incredibly uncomfortable to sit thru, and professor kept insisting it was "her animation" even though it was CLEARLY Sims footage. I'm glad I transferred out for the following semester
I did fine arts, the hardest part was dealing with the myopic, nacissistic, chronic masturbating idealiots who took themselves way too seriously. You've thrown a blanket over a stack of used tires, you're not changing the world Ignatius! Anyway, I digress, for one of my assignments I went to the art Gallery for inspiration. There was a room that was being repainted by tradesmen (contractors), I know this was the case because when I got to the gallery these guys were setting up drop sheets & ladders & setting down paint buckets, then they went to lunch. I ended up spending the better part of an hour watching people gawk at the room wondering what the installation meant & taking pictures. I stood closely hearing the more learned art connoisseurs explain the symbology of the items on display to their friends. These pearls of wisdom exclaimed louder than required to enlighten the other watchers staring into the gaping maw of banality. It was an ode to the possibilities of the creative mind, a critique on censorship of the arts, a mournful tribute to the temporary nature of modern art, etc, etc. It was hillarious but I couldn't blame them, the room next door had a step ladder with glasses of water on it.
idk people shit on Ono too hard man. If you ever do any digging no one is pissed at her, and like really she is just expressing herself. People blame her for the break up of the Beatles but that is ridiculous and there are so many factors that lead to the end of the Beatles. I hate to say it but a lot of it is sexism, and I dont throw that word around lightly like extremist feminists do. Everyone does goofy stuff but when she does it it’s pretentious and she gets shit for it. Idk knowing what she has been through with watching the love of her life get brutally murdered and taken away from her right before her eyes, holding his cold body as he dies. She has never re married either. idk. give yoko ono a fucking break
@@sexdeathfashionshe is the reason John Lennon magnified into a piece of shit. She’s the reason he was a deadbeat to his son Julian and why Paul McCartney had to step in to fill that role for Julian. She’s the one who kept his ego inflated, which led him to assume more and more control of the Beatles name without input from the other members. You can defend her all you want but her and Lennon were pieces of shits who tried to be a symbol of love and freedom all the while enjoying the privileges of upper class society.
I think people blaming Yoko is wrong, Lennon was his own person. I disagree though that she can just do what she wants on performances. I mean what she was doing made what Chuck Berry was doing irrelevant as you couldn't hear his stuff, or the rest of the band.
@@sexdeathfashion no she didnt end the beatles that claim is silly, however she doesnt seem like a nice person she did some pretty awful stuff to one of lenons sons after his death forgot which one but look in to it if youre intressted. besides that she does seem pretty pretentious to me not silly fun.
I love the really small, quick memes the editor puts in, like when he says "Paris" at 18:49 and like one second of "fine distinguished gentlemen of African descent in Paris" plays
I am an art professor & honestly if you can bullshit a concept you can be a fine artist. Wild but the whole career of being an artist is about gaslighting the viewers into thinking your work is ~DEEP AND UNIQUE~
Got a bachelors in fine art over 10 years ago and it’s true. As long as you can write well you can bullshit it. You could do a dot on a piece of paper and if you write well enough and reference enough artists you’ll pass.
It actually has very little to do with what the artist says, its about what the "art world" says it means and they are one's bullshiting everyone, not the artists themselves.
I went to art school and once my professor went to this huge art gallery and put an empty soda can on the floor in the way it looked like it was part of the exhibition. People started gathering around the soda can, taking pictures and arguing about the meaning behind it. And I think it says a lot about this whole deal w fine arts.
Yeah thats all noise music, its all just a big fuck you and i love it. Check out gerogerigegege, they released a “album” full of broken cassettes in a box and told you to shake it to “make your own album” its funny as shit i love them
2:21 Glasses Left behind was actually a test, some guy looked at all the garbage on display and thought these people are so up their own asses, that if he put his glasses on the gerund they would be dumb enough to think it was art, and it worked. A similar experiment was done at a college, a professor showed his students a painting and asked them to tell why it was brilliant, they all gave him word salad answers, then he revealed the painting was just a photo of his apron. Modern art is proof, their is a sucker born every minute.
@@Arum638 it's not "the professor said it was a pollock painting and everyone believed it", it's "the professor said it was a brilliant piece and everyone retroactively gave it meaning". the thing being proven wasn't that you can say something was made by someone it wasn't, it was that a lot of these people only engage superficially and say stuff to sound smart instead of actually having opinions or seeing real meaning.
That professor was not trying to prove contemporary art is bullshit, nor that art lovers are fools. He was testing their artistic sensibilities, being able to talk about art and theorize. This obviously went over your head and the heads of everyone in this comment section.
lol the "shrink wrap" is 100% a fetish object. I had a ... friend who wired up his house with a sort of central vacuum so he could put himself in the vac bed silently. (He also had a dead man's switch so the vac stayed on as long as his finger was pressing the trigger.)
Vac beds are HUGE on the bondage scene, but the way it was portrayed in the art is significantly less lewd, all the participants are clothed and most vac beds are solid black.
If I remember correctly it was someone who just placed their glasses by the wall and stepped away to stare at it. After a crowd started to gather, he walked up and put his glasses back on and walked away. 😂
I remember in art school this one dude did a really cool renaissance tier pen and pencil drawing with angels and stuff. The teacher and the rest of the class were disinterested even though he was the most skilled person in the class because they didn't get any message from it.
Well i mean skill has very little meaning in my opinion because art is so subjective to begin with. You can be skillfull at a specific style but if you don't do anything unique with that style what are you really bringing to the table meaning wise.
@@junebug9841 5userdfgliytfjyxduf75dkyrdci.ub htutfutf,utxc.lugj,b nbgv Now that was pretty unique wasn't it. Arfully typed that with some beautiful motion with the fingers on my right hand. Look at the meaning I brought to the table Im so unique
Art performances are so bizzare…one video that still haunts me to this day, whenever I think about contemporary art, is a video where a girl struggles to open a can of spaghetti-os cuts open the crotch of her pants and then shoves the pasta up inside her. All while a whole room watches with mixed expressions and takes pictures. I believe the video is still on TH-cam….
The duct tape banana is my roman empire. If anyone's art belongs in a museum, Papa Meat's ABSOLUTELY deserves a spot. Not only is it skilled and profound, but traumatizing children is extremely funny
@@woecelto be fair it’s designed to garner empathy from the viewer. The piece is designed to show despite how much we try to hold ourselves together we will fall apart and stop functioning altogether in the end. Regardless of how much we try to lengthen our time we all have a the same ending (in the open ended sense where end means death, and not the specific type of death that befalls a person). So yeah, we can relate to that very well on an existential level. But I agree wholeheartedly it’s wild to think I can feel so deeply for a robot that was built to die, and look that way - but we personify everything because it’s how we can most relate to the world around us.
@@H3_remixthe dumb part is it’s not designed with that in mind, the original artist said it was about immigration, he just got lucky and happened to make a piece that can be attributed with an idea that deep
I love this story from the Netherlands where a modern artist reported to the police that their piece of modern art that was on display in a park was stolen. It turned out that the 'thieves' were park cleaners who thought that the artwork was litter and so they threw it in a dumpster.
@@MaxPopp-ej7fxi thought I was going crazy, I knew I had remembered that weird performance of the dude hitting the metal pole with a cane taped to him. Glad to know I didn't imagine it.
I’m just glad I’m not the only one who thinks these ppl are awesome con artist. That old man with the buckets goes home and laughs while counting money of fools.
@@Oscar-b5b4x Pretty sure they meant for the robot to represent a totalitarian regime desperately trying to keep people from leaving the country. They fucked it up real bad and made an art piece of working yourself to death for nothing. I love this planet.
24:50 "You don't directly drink the water from the sink because you think it is dirty. Then you don't eat the apple until it cleaned, but you will eat the apple after you clean it by the sink water." - Chris Hu
12:55 this video was genuinely wiped completely from my brain i don't even remember where i saw it but having that forcefully pulled out of the memory vault was jarring
The saddest part about the hydraulic system that was cleaning its own oil so it wouldn’t die- is that initially it was also programmed to wave and engage with patrons and would have to balance the interactions with gathering the oil. But as time went on and the machine lost more and more fluid, it had to spend less time waving and dancing and more time cleaning, until it ultimately had to cut out engaging with the audience all together in order to survive. And it eventually stopped anyway. An intense piece.
I remember going to the museum of contemporary art in London. It was filled with weird random color goopy paintings and also a signed toilet. I had so much fun trying to interpret each painting with my friends. I made exaggerated gestures and used big words. It went so far that a couple asian tourists looked at me as if i actually knew wtf i was talking about. So there is definitely some fun to be found in this weird shit
As someone who is about to graduate next week with my Masters of Fine Arts - contemporary art is the absolute dumbest thing. Teaching my students to just make cool shit and present it with confidence
Contemporary art has been by far the most memorable to me, and has affected me more than any other art form simply because it is completely unrestricted in its medium, and is therefore freer than any other art form to express and convey its message. There is bad art, but the reason you see more bad contemporary art is because you are contemporary. Had you lived in the 1700s, you would have seen all the bad 1700s art that is forgotten and unseen now.
@@rakelodakel time to accept objectivity means more than what is taught in higher education in regards to what is and isn't ok. Bad art exists and is prolific in affluent and higher class circles, whilst in education you'll believe you're part of this enlightened upper caste - the second you graduate you'll re-join the rest of us unwashed scum in the real world and realise that objective ugliness and deconstruction is a demoralising factor employed against the common person by those on high.
What is wild about the Robot arm isn't so much that it's trying to clean up the pool. But I remember it on a reddit post: "No piece of art has ever emotionally affected me the way this robot arm piece has. It's programmed to try to contain the hydraulic fluid that’s constantly leaking out and required to keep itself running...if too much escapes, it will die so it's desperately trying to pull it back to continue to fight for another day. Saddest part is they gave the robot the ability to do these 'happy dances' to spectators. When the project was first launched it danced around spending most of its time interacting with the crowd since it could quickly pull back the small spillage. Many years later... (as you see it now in the video) it looks tired and hopeless as there isn't enough time to dance anymore.. It now only has enough time to try to keep itself alive as the amount of leaked hydraulic fluid became unmanageable as the spill grew over time. Living its last days in a never-ending cycle between sustaining life and simultaneously bleeding out... (Figuratively and literally as its hydraulic fluid was purposefully made to look like it's actual blood). "The robot arm finally ran out of hydraulic fluid in 2019, slowly came to a halt and died "
yeah idk about the whole immigration thing, but the hopelessness and monotony it makes people feel is definitely real, what I also think is interesting is how we as humans give this machine human emotions, and most people feel like the machine is sad or we're sad for it, just another interesting layer
I found the answer to this. The arm is a KUKA model KR180 R3100 K. It has a footprint of 800mm x 830mm and a weight of approximately 1168kg, costing $19.000. it is rated to lift 180kg but can lift 230kg at most. It‘s ambient temperature during operation is 10 °C to 55 °C. It‘s controller is a KR C4 It could fit in a large enough home, given it has enough room.
Modern art is a rich people loop hole for the most part. And everyone is basically in it together, very rare is it an actual "new upsommung artist" that hasn't been planted there by someone rich and got hyped up to make their work worth money. Then if they get a piece worth something they can donate it and count it as a charitable tax write off especially if the art in question was worth millions. So to everyone trying to break into it either keep dreaming, find someone rich that you can pull this scheme off with or get so good and so much exposure you can't be denied your place.
@@MoreReds it'd be easier to set them up to win the lottery. Everyone gets a good check and status to a degree. That's long term money. Why would they want the shortest end of the stick when they can drag it on for years at a time?
@@starsalior4503 it's to the best of my recollection and I have no reason to lie to strangers on the internet. If you have an interjection, just make it. Isn't that what the comment section is for? I'm just some guy on the internet so you can take it with as few grains of salt as you can but I didn't try to benefit myself in any way and it doesn't do anything for me. I wanted more to emphasize the message at the end because it is a cruel industry to enter with high hopes and no idea how to claim their possition in that world. There are alot of factors but I'm not going to write you a 2 page exam paper on my stance. Use the comment section and get the convo of this going. I'm always down to see someone elses point of view or experience and I'm pretty sure there are going to be people looking for reads, they might learn something.
@@starsalior4503 it's to the best of my recollection and lying to strangers on the internet does nothing for me. If you have an interjection just speak up it's what the comment section is here for. I'm not about to shoot down anyones experiences because we're all just randoms on the internet so you can take as many grains of salt as you'd like and it wouldn't bother anyone.
As someone who's actually going to school for art, it's a real slap in the face when people with no real skill make thousands off of their "art." I've been practicing my craft for seven years, but these people will quickly upstage real artists.
only because we let them and don't want to "hurt feelings" or be contentious with the correct assessment that most of this is trash, pushed by vapid and vacuous trash heaps. Like when you don't immediately tell someone their affinity for and adherence to astrology shit or crystals is stupid and has no effect on anything.... Seems harmless, until you realize that if you don't give them the real deal, do you really even care about them?
drummer here that was deep into solo snare performance in high school; i recommend checking out "Asventuras" by Alexej Gerassimez for some "experimental" snare goodness that is genuinely musical and very cool to listen to. its on youtube
I think that people are buying not because they like the performance or the art piece, but because they just want the guy to stop jumping, leaning on moving mud, crumpling paper, beating the shit out of a table or something else which could cause an injury. It's basically begging but with extra steps.
The Ryobi drill vs Milwaukee drill bit had me in stitches. I’ve worked with both visiting their manufacturing ops in Guangzhou. They’re under the same parent company and manufacture their tools at the same factory anyway lol
The prerequisite to be an artist now is not the talent and hard work to hone your craft, but the sheer audacity and fart-sniffing self-aggrandizement to consider be one.
I love whoever edits these videos, at 21:31 papa says “Paris” and they added a half second of Kanye’s “gentlemen in Paris” it’s the little things that kill me in these videos
I think DuChamp’s “Le Fountain” was remarkable in the fact that it was done in 1917 not 1940, doing something like this was beyond unheard of at the time and he still followed the artistic guidelines of the gallery space which was “whatever you bring us no matter how good or bad it is we will hang it up and display it” and DuChamp went bet and scribbled his name on a urinal. It’s art in the way that defiance itself is art, it’s a statement that even the things you see every day can be art even if you piss in it. It also says that what i see in art is not exactly what you would see but its art regardless. Like for 1917 that was mind blowing. It was meme art before meme art. You gotta respect that.
He also never said it was “good” art, just that it was in fact art. Easy to take that for granted now but at the time even impressionist art and the like was considered “not real art” because it wasn’t a picture of a fucking apple or something. Art was also considered to be for the bourgeois not the common people, so to take something as lowly and common and purely utilitarian as a urinal, and call that art, was also a statement about who art was for
With the buckets of sand that topple under their own weight, that sounds like a great metaphor that you write into a book about geopolitical turmoil or that a character recites in a revolutionary fantasy novel, not an entire standalone art piece.
The Ryobi sneaker drills were displayed until some guy in a green sweater ran in, said something about 'teaching them to learn to walk on land', and threw them into an aquarium.
There’s something cathartic about one of your favorite contemporary artists tearing apart lazy and/or snobby artist projects lol. Sucks when the faux deep art exhibits overshadow genuinely talented modern artists. ALSO if anyone wants an example of awesome contemporary art, Ron Mueck does crazy hyper-realistic giant sculptures.
I would be genuinely interested in hearing you talk more about contemporary/ modern art that you are super into. Some performances art pieces are so rad. Thanks as always for the amazing video.
13:30 so many years ago I saw parts of this "performance" but the video I knew stopped after the guy pulled out the cane flute thing. I feel so blessed to finally see more of that "performance"
as an artist i can very confidently say that 90% of these are just things the artists made bc they thought it was cool and then they just slapped those insane descriptions on later to make whatever they did look somewhat meaningful
I completely agree. Although I do think it’s fun to make the work first and then figure out what it means after you can take a step back from it. But yeah, a lot of these could be chalked up to BS 😅
I’m a big Beksinski fan. He’s created some of the most harrowing and dark works of art I’ve seen. His experience under Nazi and Soviet control in his home country of Poland really adds layers to the art. His use of Prussian blue in some of his art is made from the same chemicals used in the gas chambers in concentration camps. Other artists I’d recommend are: Otto Dix, John Martin, Vladimir Kush, Heironymous Bosch, MC Escher, Gustav Dore, and Bruegel
I left artschool due to being expected to fork out $5,000 to pay for the bronze we were going to use in the second year even though we were given a month of notice to pay it (like we weren't told until we got the form and how to pay). This was literally in the first two months of art school, like I get they probably had to order it but only gave us a month to pay for it, didn't mention it beforehand. I as pretty bummed at first knowing there was no way I could pay. I had literally been able to pay to go by getting a student loan... So no way I could afford the extra $5,000. I quickly realised you had to be from a well off/wealthy family to afford going there sadly, and my mum as hard as she worked for us was still just making below minimum wage so there was no way I wanted to ask her for help. I had been so excited to go, it was literally one of if not the top art school in the country to get into and I was one of three of the people accepted from my state that year out of hundreds of applicants, I was so proud of myself and so excited only to have it blow up in my face with that single month to get $5,000 together unexpectedly (like there was no mention of this at all and no way to arrange to pay it off either). I kept going to classes for the month leading up to it to see if it was something I really wanted to do so if I really did want to go I would try my best to figure out how to pay. Well I think it turned out to be a blessing in disguise. I quickly realised how pretentious and honestly bullshit it all was. They were very much into fine art there and one class we had to go around and look at all the art installations and ponder their meaning, then write down our thoughts and present it to the teacher. I kept thinking to myself lmao maybe they just thought it would look cool/pretty but would make up some BS to fit what was wanted from us. Then there was one where we had to just create something. So I just used matchsicks and a hot gluegun and stuck them together in a sort of pattern, both sides mirroring eachother because I thought it might look pretty, it ended up looking kind of like a double helix. When I finished my teacher was like "Wow, I love the way you used negative space and used it to bring the whole piece together." I literally had other students come over and compliment it and I was sitting there thinking to myself "all I did was glue matchsticks together in diamond and square patterns... and just mirrored it on the other side... because I thought it might look cool..." Yeah, after that I realised it may not be the place for me, even though I loved making art the mindset expected and the reason why you did what you did was just completely different to how I decided to do things. And it all seemed like bull to me. So probably lucky I couldn't afford the bronze because that way when I left I was able to basically pay the whole loan back without a buttload of interest later on XD
28:07 the “art” is the machine arm is leaking hydraulic fluid that makes the arm move, is the equivalent of a human being hooked up to a machine that drains the blood and pours it onto the floor and the person has to scoop it up into an area that will collect the blood and pump into into the person or they will die from the blood loss.
I'm finishing my BFA this week and going into my MFA and HOH BOY I love that one of my fave animators is covering a topic I deal with multiple times a week. I openly hate the pretentious, which y'all can guess how that's going with being in the art school system. I'm finishing a 5 minute animatic for one class (basically a butt ton of physical labor) and in one of my art history discussion classes, my professor brought up Haim Steinbach's Supremely Black (google it and be disappointed). It was EXCRUTIATING watching my classmates try to intellectualize it- mainly because these are smart people who were able to make it sound much smarter than it is. I eventually just said that we should move on because bullshit artists depend on intelligent people to validate them. This wouldn't be an issue except they're taking up time and space from real artists who both have good art and smart things to say. I'd rather discuss the many other great works of art (even contemporary ones!) in the limited class time I'm paying thousands for. TL;DR Being in the fine arts field, I'm so glad you're talking about this because I believe the only way to get rid of these bullshitters is by challenging them. Truth is, they don't stand a chance against real/good artists and they know it. Call em on it.
Can’t Help Myself is my favorite art piece. I wasn’t aware of what it actually represented/the meaning behind it until watching this video. When I first saw it it it genuinely made me emotional and tear up. I related it to my personal struggle with metal health/drug addiction. In the way that you’re constantly trying to clean up the mess your life has become but it’s continually a struggle. If it’s not one thing, it’s another. It’s one thing after another. Sad shit I know but in October I’ll be clean and sober 5 years baby! But man when I heard the artists intended it to represent immigration i immediately thought of my great grandparents and made me emotional all over again. Both from Mexico and lived through the Mexican Revolution as kids. They met, got married and decided to immigrate to the U.S. Grandfather immigrated first and went back to Mexico to visit my grandmother periodically. He went first to start building a foundation I guess you could say. Like get a job, save money, find a place tp live. After 5 years my grandma finally immigrated and joined him but she had gotten pregnant shortly before so she crossed the Rio Grande with her new baby. They ended up having 6 kids. Unfortunately, they ended up getting tuberculosis at the same time. They had to go to a sanitarium. Their kids had to be put in foster care. My grandmother recovered and went on to live into her 80’s. My grandfather did not. He died in the sanitarium. My grandmother ended up a single mother of 6. My grandfather was the one who worked and made all the money while she raised the children. She collected her kids from foster care and worked her ass off with very little help to support her and her 6 kids. Never in my life will I work as hard as those two! ❤️
For one of my high school classes I had ap art history and we learned about contemporary art everything past the 1900s is bs like the man bitting and scratching a chocolate box and considering it art and another work of a woman who was just obsessed with dots and orgys
@@Pragabond I tend to type fast and I don’t feel like rewriting things so it looks like a mess the answer to that is no I’m not having a stroke but I do have occasional seizures and spasms because I am a weird little boy
Papa Meat is one the best channels TH-cam has to offer truly. I cant get enough of this content. I dont know your name Papa Meat dude but you are awesome. The world needs many more people like you.
Fun fact: most modern art exists for the purpose of money laundering Fun fact 2: The guy whose “art piece” is a dead shark keeps having to kill new sharks because the old one rots. Fun fact 3: Urinals, chairs, and most other objects taken and presented without change are indeed art(as the design of 3D, everyday objects is some of the most complex and iterative in any industry), but the designer is almost never the one submitting it as art and so they are never credited :(
I feel like the deeper the meaning you try to staple to contemporary art the less it means. You can absolutely do silly things for art, but embracing the silly somehow feels more substantial.
“This comment is about how humans and governments are fragile and how small we really are and look how deep we are!” - basically every modern “””art””” piece.
Every time i see something from Pollock, my first thought is: "That guy musta been *angry*, mood" i kinda empathize with just throwing paint at a canvas until your anger and pain makes something of it, especially with how much stuff he's gone through in his personal life
The SECOND I saw the guy walk out at 12:43 and saw that menacing stare I knew what was gonna happen 😭 I saw that clip a long time ago and remember cackling like a seal. It’s so unhinged and the fact that it was performance art is the cherry on top.
I just wanted to say, as far as art goes, you Papa Meat and Junji Ito have always been the two people I look up to the most with my art. You both have an amazing talent for body horror and giving fear a new name with story lines being incredibly unique and fascinating. Thank you for helping me accept my love of body horror artwork and pursuing on my journey of making my own.
I think my favourite modern artist is Zdzislaw Beksinski, his art is just so sick and just the way he draws beings and these messed up, hellish worlds is so cool
I had to do a little project about Beksinski in high school for my teacher (she wasn’t very nice tbh) but I was also able to look at Beksinski’s art. Fantastic stuff, truly.
@Tiger10002 Taking a look at your channel, it's just gameplay videos and tiktok re-uploads, how is a professional camera going to help for either of those things?
Like over ten years ago now, there was a guy who had sold a series of pieces titled The Purple Squirt. He would do live paintings before a gallery observers too. There would be cheese and wine served I'm sure.
One Art thats very underappriciated is culinary art. What other kind of art is more relevant than something that you can actively consume. You experience the art like no other. Plus, eating is just an incredible experience.
even that can get out of hand. like pretentious food people? the WORST. "heres this $1,000 meal thats just chopped liver of a drunk goose with some red sauce and disgustingly bitter wine"
@LewdsandComix I think there is a very widespread misconception on how fine dining works. Yes, there are places where you can order a $1000 steak, but those are pretentious restaurants with obvious reviews with lower ratings, you wont see them with a michelin star. Most restaurants let you order an entire meal consisting of 10-20 dishes for a whole cost, I paid around $200 for 6 dishes at an Indian restaurant in Nashville, and it was the best food I've had in my entire life. The high cost is because they use the best ingredients in the entire world, literally flying in certain ingredients weekly. I'm a chef so ik how stupidly expensive restaurants are to run, especially fine dining. The average restaurant charges x3 the value of anything. A lot do a lot more than that.
Man, these captchas are getting sophisticated. I haven't seen the puzzle piece yet, but I can tell there's no way some machine could manage that Herculean task.
I just got the “The Shrink” part and dude that is not a new thing it’s literally just like this weird kink where people get sealed in layers of latex and have a tube to breathe.
Sun Yuan und Peng Yu (the people who made “can’t help myself”) have another piece of art where they brought the dead corpse of Siamese twin babies and injected the babies with their own blood, then later one of them fed liposuctioned human fat and fed it to a baby/child corpse. They made the art after they got married.
My go-to way to evaluate art is to gauge the intent and the execution of an artwork. It's so easy to tell if art is pretentious if you don't feel effort in how it's executed. You can feel the intent of a Pollock or a Rothko because of the execution (yes, seemingly random paint on canvas can still make you feel things), but I don’t know about a Signer.
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just watched the art vid to then see
you here, crazy
5:22 they're wax sculptures
The guy with the pole😂
I'm literally wearing my Metallica t-shirt as I watch this.
you forgot the art piece called "Take the Money and Run" which is just a straight up blank canvas and is worth $84k
didn't that guy get sued for fraud?
Totally didnt give any context. It was a danish artist who wanted to protest how badly artists were payed by museums (because the pay is SHIT). He was commisioned by a danish museum to make a piece for them. He asked them for 84k in cash as a part of the piece. The museum thought they were getting a physical piece, instead they Got a brilliant conceptual piece. The artist had taken the money that was supposed to be Used for the piece, and simply ran off. What was left was a blank canvas.
People who shit on modern art refuse to find context for anything. Instead, yall are just stuck up on old facist beliefs about beuty and what art Can be.
@@BlueSorcerer You dorks throw around the word "fascist" so much that it has lost all its meaning. Not that you were using it correctly to begin with, but man... what an embarrassing post.
@@BlueSorcererwow your so smart 👏 you just love money laundering.
@@BlueSorcererhe literally stole someone’s money and called it art it’s funny if nothing else
When I was younger someone told me that modern art is all about the idea, not the execution and that made modern art make sense. Then a few years ago someone told me that modern art is mainly a way for the wealthy to launder their money and that made modern art make way more sense.
Maybe the artists make it for one reason and the rich buy it for the other reason.
well idk why the artists would care about why the artists would care especially because the rich only pay them a commision and then later on let some art critic overprice it. Zero chance any of that money is making back to the artist
@@clarkmichaels822 yeah, wasn't so much trying to criticize the artists, just it's an explanation of why some of it sells for so much.
@soberstoners7610 eh, I get it. I've seen some stuff that I thought was really great. A lot of the artists are in it for the right reasons, but one of the main things about it all is that there is no right reasons. Art is an can be anything. even if it's just a money laundering scheme you could still say that that is a very clear representation of the world and times we live in. I don't know, if you go in thinking "is it art?" Then you've already ruined your experience. It's kind of an embrace of the idea that it's all what you get from it.
Even with the idea explanation it's worthless. Making something for someone else's interpretation is lazy. Good art has intention and meaning.
Shit. I should cover myself in paint, set some canvases on some stairs, and fall down it. I'll call it "The Fall of Mankind".
Literally do it. Get that bag lmao
This is actually fire tho
Don’t even need the paint if you fall just right
And you my friend, are the modern artists now. 👏👏👏
Holy shit go for it
"Art can be whatever you want it to be"
Some folks have taken that to the extreme
and that's absolutely fine.
it's just for money laundering, even the creators know this ain't art
*h a r s h n o i s e m u s i c*
@@Senorcyborg No, it's not fine.
Looking at you, Colonel Sanders. with your particular taste in anime.
Contemporary artists are like the guy who's a checkout bagger at a grocery store, but puts "Goods Management and Transportation Specialist" on their resume. 55% confidence, 44% audacity, 1% artistic skill.
100% concentrated power of will
True. But I'd argue that all three characteristics exist within all artists *who put their work out for consumption... The ratios definitely vary- Especially the percentage of artistic skill- But it takes all three things to do it
Not always, I’d argue performance artists kinda lean more into this, but a lot of artists I’ve known have a ton of learned skills in things like ceramics and painting that take years to actually get good at, and a lot of them are pretty chill and normal people. The stuff you’re talking about tends to become more of an issue with highly successful artists (financially speaking) who buy into their own hype. Also, not coming at u specifically, but the trend of calling artists unskilled is kinda pretentious atp too
You're not qualified to judge artistic skill if you agree with any point made within this video.
I remember the glasses one was actually a prank/experiment. Some guy just decided at an art gallery to see what would happen if he left his glasses on the floor like it was an exhibition.
Genius
That giant child being held was more art than that man smacking butter with a microphone.
Actually got me thinking
sorry to break it to you bud but thats not a man
@@KarasuuX It's Jewish, so it most likely will try to be at some point. 🏳️⚧️
I stupidly did fine art as my university course, I lasted 2 years and dropped out in the 3rd. Sad thing is? I liked drawing when I went in, I haven’t picked up a pencil or a pen since and that was 6 years ago now.
Some of the most pretentious, stuck up people, students & staff I’ve ever had to sadly meet.
Your videos are fine art to me
I went to college initially to get a BFA degree, and after three years came to the conclusion that most contemporary "fine art" was all just a bunch of pretentious bullshit. After realizing that this would never translate to an actual career that would put a roof over my head, I switched to graphic design.
@@c_huntermcWell at least ya pivoted to something that'll feed ya, nice.
man i can feel the pain from your comment already. same with film school for me, just straight up stay away from any art related school shit
I remember when back in like 2017 me, my brother and my older sister went to this art gallery (in Finland). Most of the so called art there was 💩 I particularly remember one where there was a ladder and in front of the ladder was some man figurine made of clay, with it's mouth open. There were punch of pretentious looking people staring at it like it was some groundbreaking, glorious thing. When they saw that we were shaking our heads while trying to hold in our laughter, they looked at us like we were some ignorant plebeians, it was hilarious!
toddlers can also unconsciously express themselves through drawing and coloring randomly. they do it all the time. but when a grown adult does it suddenly its 50 million? Where's these toddler's paychecks at?
A toddler artist's paycheck would be a loving parent's appreciation for their little creations ❤ I have a little one, almost a year old; every time she is creative I feel a sense of pride well up inside my chest ❤ I hope you've experienced, or will experience such a feeling! It's so rewarding ❤❤❤
I kid you not the argument of modern arts lovers is that it’s better because artists use a different part of their brain then the babies.
@@henotic.essenceLike a little snack or toy store for them! Turn in ur cool little art and get a reward! Would be so cool
It feels like the fine art world is made up of trolls and investors who don't realize they're being trolled.
And the trolls don't realize that the investors are money launderers, and know full well that the art pieces are near worthless garbage.
It legit is. Some of the best artists out there are enormous trolls, even back during the Renaissance.
A perfect example is a rich prick buying Banksy art (a STREET artist who is aggressively anti-consumerist) that automatically shredded itself when it sold.
Partially. They realized that a certain demographic of people was spending millions on trivial nonsense to launder money. So they took the opportunity. I’m sure it was unintentional for some, but I bet most knew what they were doing.
*they're
@@Arum638 thats because it broke halfway, banksy fucked up and made it a metaphor instead of a protest
as someone who also went to art school (wish I didn't, but I was dumb and 17 when I decided to go), once we had a student exhibit where a student covered a chair completely in kraft cheese whiz. Not a single inch of that chair was uncovered, and it stunk up the room completely, but my professor kept going on about how "revolutionary" it was or whatever.
Same exhibit, another student recorded a conversation between her and her neglectful mother, and played it over gameplay footage of two Sims talking. It was incredibly uncomfortable to sit thru, and professor kept insisting it was "her animation" even though it was CLEARLY Sims footage. I'm glad I transferred out for the following semester
That sounds horrific
So it‘s literally a place full of dumbasses? Good to know.
peak../.
Art school sounds like a bunch of deranged lunatics gathered in one place💀
A Sims mod which updated all the conversations into the arguments between her and her mother sounds kind of lit tbh
I did fine arts, the hardest part was dealing with the myopic, nacissistic, chronic masturbating idealiots who took themselves way too seriously. You've thrown a blanket over a stack of used tires, you're not changing the world Ignatius! Anyway, I digress, for one of my assignments I went to the art Gallery for inspiration. There was a room that was being repainted by tradesmen (contractors), I know this was the case because when I got to the gallery these guys were setting up drop sheets & ladders & setting down paint buckets, then they went to lunch. I ended up spending the better part of an hour watching people gawk at the room wondering what the installation meant & taking pictures. I stood closely hearing the more learned art connoisseurs explain the symbology of the items on display to their friends. These pearls of wisdom exclaimed louder than required to enlighten the other watchers staring into the gaping maw of banality. It was an ode to the possibilities of the creative mind, a critique on censorship of the arts, a mournful tribute to the temporary nature of modern art, etc, etc. It was hillarious but I couldn't blame them, the room next door had a step ladder with glasses of water on it.
His parents named him _Ignatius._ He never had a chance.
It's a reference @@kattastic9999
Papa meat is probably one of the few people that have put their fine arts major into an actual use, this channel is art
His is very talented.checkout his other channel called meatcanyon.
@@Psartz i guarantee you every single person that is here came from his fist channel lol
Yo retro, just in case someone doesn't know, why not plug like Psartz did..? Maybe they got here off of a listicle algorithm, yeah? 😉👍
I came from creep cast then got put on meatcanyon- might love this guy more than Wendi now
@@retrogamer5835 i came from creepcast so...
1:40 Yoko Ono making dolphin sounds into a microphone and infuriating the other band members will never not be hilarious.
idk people shit on Ono too hard man. If you ever do any digging no one is pissed at her, and like really she is just expressing herself. People blame her for the break up of the Beatles but that is ridiculous and there are so many factors that lead to the end of the Beatles. I hate to say it but a lot of it is sexism, and I dont throw that word around lightly like extremist feminists do. Everyone does goofy stuff but when she does it it’s pretentious and she gets shit for it. Idk knowing what she has been through with watching the love of her life get brutally murdered and taken away from her right before her eyes, holding his cold body as he dies. She has never re married either. idk. give yoko ono a fucking break
@@sexdeathfashion i only know yoko ono from the soundtrack of rushmore. this makes her even better. let her do what she wants!!!!
@@sexdeathfashionshe is the reason John Lennon magnified into a piece of shit. She’s the reason he was a deadbeat to his son Julian and why Paul McCartney had to step in to fill that role for Julian. She’s the one who kept his ego inflated, which led him to assume more and more control of the Beatles name without input from the other members. You can defend her all you want but her and Lennon were pieces of shits who tried to be a symbol of love and freedom all the while enjoying the privileges of upper class society.
I think people blaming Yoko is wrong, Lennon was his own person. I disagree though that she can just do what she wants on performances. I mean what she was doing made what Chuck Berry was doing irrelevant as you couldn't hear his stuff, or the rest of the band.
@@sexdeathfashion no she didnt end the beatles that claim is silly, however she doesnt seem like a nice person she did some pretty awful stuff to one of lenons sons after his death forgot which one but look in to it if youre intressted. besides that she does seem pretty pretentious to me not silly fun.
I love the really small, quick memes the editor puts in, like when he says "Paris" at 18:49 and like one second of "fine distinguished gentlemen of African descent in Paris" plays
was looking to see if anyone else noticed this it was so brief
I am an art professor & honestly if you can bullshit a concept you can be a fine artist. Wild but the whole career of being an artist is about gaslighting the viewers into thinking your work is ~DEEP AND UNIQUE~
Where do you teach
Gaslighting? Not really bro
Got a bachelors in fine art over 10 years ago and it’s true. As long as you can write well you can bullshit it. You could do a dot on a piece of paper and if you write well enough and reference enough artists you’ll pass.
It actually has very little to do with what the artist says, its about what the "art world" says it means and they are one's bullshiting everyone, not the artists themselves.
If you can bullshit a concept and* surround yourself with rich ‘yes men’
I went to art school and once my professor went to this huge art gallery and put an empty soda can on the floor in the way it looked like it was part of the exhibition. People started gathering around the soda can, taking pictures and arguing about the meaning behind it. And I think it says a lot about this whole deal w fine arts.
God your professor was a heck of troll. Lol. 😂😂😂
The snare drum got me soo good. It was like a shitpost
Yeah thats all noise music, its all just a big fuck you and i love it. Check out gerogerigegege, they released a “album” full of broken cassettes in a box and told you to shake it to “make your own album” its funny as shit i love them
i nearly died laughing
2:21 Glasses Left behind was actually a test, some guy looked at all the garbage on display and thought these people are so up their own asses, that if he put his glasses on the gerund they would be dumb enough to think it was art, and it worked.
A similar experiment was done at a college, a professor showed his students a painting and asked them to tell why it was brilliant, they all gave him word salad answers, then he revealed the painting was just a photo of his apron.
Modern art is proof, their is a sucker born every minute.
@@Arum638prageru sucks and shouldn’t be trusted anyways
@@Arum638 it's not "the professor said it was a pollock painting and everyone believed it", it's "the professor said it was a brilliant piece and everyone retroactively gave it meaning". the thing being proven wasn't that you can say something was made by someone it wasn't, it was that a lot of these people only engage superficially and say stuff to sound smart instead of actually having opinions or seeing real meaning.
Between modern art and wine tasting scammers be makin that bag
The fact that you're talking about it though means it's art
That professor was not trying to prove contemporary art is bullshit, nor that art lovers are fools. He was testing their artistic sensibilities, being able to talk about art and theorize. This obviously went over your head and the heads of everyone in this comment section.
lol the "shrink wrap" is 100% a fetish object. I had a ... friend who wired up his house with a sort of central vacuum so he could put himself in the vac bed silently. (He also had a dead man's switch so the vac stayed on as long as his finger was pressing the trigger.)
Vac beds are HUGE on the bondage scene, but the way it was portrayed in the art is significantly less lewd, all the participants are clothed and most vac beds are solid black.
It’s also very derivative of cable to Touro blade movies. He did it better
That person was 100% you
Brother?
I require the *heavy* flamer.
For the metal heads, the song at 23:49 is Sajo by Phalanx. certified banger! had to use a chrome extension called "AHA music finder" .
you're an angel.
And the snippet at 15:04 (Sad Spongebob) is from "Reasons for waiting" on the 1969 Stand up album by Jethro Tull, I love Prog music
You've done us all service!
Only reason I came to the comments was to return this to you. 👑
o7 salute, thanks for saving the hour or 2 it would've taken for me to find it man
I like how some random guy dropped his glasses and they rush to take photos cause they think its a part of the exhibit
If I remember correctly it was someone who just placed their glasses by the wall and stepped away to stare at it. After a crowd started to gather, he walked up and put his glasses back on and walked away. 😂
A part
Art piece of the century
@@A_Wild_Dyzzynow that’s art of trolling
actual bots LOL
I remember in art school this one dude did a really cool renaissance tier pen and pencil drawing with angels and stuff. The teacher and the rest of the class were disinterested even though he was the most skilled person in the class because they didn't get any message from it.
Well i mean skill has very little meaning in my opinion because art is so subjective to begin with. You can be skillfull at a specific style but if you don't do anything unique with that style what are you really bringing to the table meaning wise.
@@junebug9841 5userdfgliytfjyxduf75dkyrdci.ub htutfutf,utxc.lugj,b nbgv
Now that was pretty unique wasn't it. Arfully typed that with some beautiful motion with the fingers on my right hand. Look at the meaning I brought to the table Im so unique
@@junebug9841 fine art isnt unique
Even if he was an amateur he still be a skill artist.
@@junebug9841 You're looking for meaning in something that has none. It's all in your head.
Art performances are so bizzare…one video that still haunts me to this day, whenever I think about contemporary art, is a video where a girl struggles to open a can of spaghetti-os cuts open the crotch of her pants and then shoves the pasta up inside her. All while a whole room watches with mixed expressions and takes pictures. I believe the video is still on TH-cam….
What
Whats the name?
This isn't even art it's just self harm. Girl needs help :/
@@tapestapes0 Interior Semiotics
@@mahouhobo3855man's did his research 😂😂
The duct tape banana is my roman empire. If anyone's art belongs in a museum, Papa Meat's ABSOLUTELY deserves a spot. Not only is it skilled and profound, but traumatizing children is extremely funny
Part 2: th-cam.com/users/liveD4jknDW1y5s?si=vkExXP5pewl5yni1
Theres a picture of the buyer of the art piece eating the same banana
@@Chrissywhissyno
@Chrissywhissy i thought some one just walked up and ate it of the wall
YOOOOOOOOO
I love your music
"Can't Help Myself" is the only piece of contemporary art that has moved me. For some reason, it just breaks me down man.
It’s interesting how humans can empathize with almost anything, even a giant steel robot arm
@@woecelto be fair it’s designed to garner empathy from the viewer. The piece is designed to show despite how much we try to hold ourselves together we will fall apart and stop functioning altogether in the end. Regardless of how much we try to lengthen our time we all have a the same ending (in the open ended sense where end means death, and not the specific type of death that befalls a person). So yeah, we can relate to that very well on an existential level. But I agree wholeheartedly it’s wild to think I can feel so deeply for a robot that was built to die, and look that way - but we personify everything because it’s how we can most relate to the world around us.
@@H3_remixok WOW
@@H3_remixthe dumb part is it’s not designed with that in mind, the original artist said it was about immigration, he just got lucky and happened to make a piece that can be attributed with an idea that deep
it's a shame the artists behind it are so unethical
I love this story from the Netherlands where a modern artist reported to the police that their piece of modern art that was on display in a park was stolen. It turned out that the 'thieves' were park cleaners who thought that the artwork was litter and so they threw it in a dumpster.
18:22 with charcoal it’s art. With crayons 🖍️ it’s a 15 minute time out in the corner 😭.
30:29 Papa Meat: "If you're thinking about going to art school..."
The 4% of your fans watching: *shatters into dust artistically*
He cut a piece of the video out it’s only 28 minutes now
@@MaxPopp-ej7fxi thought I was going crazy, I knew I had remembered that weird performance of the dude hitting the metal pole with a cane taped to him. Glad to know I didn't imagine it.
I’m just glad I’m not the only one who thinks these ppl are awesome con artist. That old man with the buckets goes home and laughs while counting money of fools.
Fun fact about the hydraulic fluid machine is that it's not hydraulic. It is electric. Did all that for nothing.
Wow.... Honestly that makes it even more sad 😢
No but you don’t understand… it’s about immigration apparently
@@Oscar-b5b4x lol what?
Yeah, hydraulic oil needs to be kept dry and dirt free or it can cause damage. Also it is replaced once in a while.
@@Oscar-b5b4x Pretty sure they meant for the robot to represent a totalitarian regime desperately trying to keep people from leaving the country. They fucked it up real bad and made an art piece of working yourself to death for nothing. I love this planet.
We need more heckling at these art shows. The only thing that would make it real art is some dude in the back yelling “YOU SUCK!”
24:50
"You don't directly drink the water from the sink because you think it is dirty. Then you don't eat the apple until it cleaned, but you will eat the apple after you clean it by the sink water."
- Chris Hu
That was good though
12:55 this video was genuinely wiped completely from my brain i don't even remember where i saw it but having that forcefully pulled out of the memory vault was jarring
Classical art is about the art, modern art is about the artist.
No. It’s all money laundering
I agree except i think classical art is both
Are we ignoring romantisisme and realism, those movements were literaly abt the artist
@@jay4387romanticism was during the early 20th century right? Like the 30s and 40s? Or was it late 18th century?
💯
The saddest part about the hydraulic system that was cleaning its own oil so it wouldn’t die- is that initially it was also programmed to wave and engage with patrons and would have to balance the interactions with gathering the oil. But as time went on and the machine lost more and more fluid, it had to spend less time waving and dancing and more time cleaning, until it ultimately had to cut out engaging with the audience all together in order to survive. And it eventually stopped anyway. An intense piece.
I love that peice.
I remember going to the museum of contemporary art in London. It was filled with weird random color goopy paintings and also a signed toilet.
I had so much fun trying to interpret each painting with my friends.
I made exaggerated gestures and used big words. It went so far that a couple asian tourists looked at me as if i actually knew wtf i was talking about.
So there is definitely some fun to be found in this weird shit
If the shrink-wrap malfunctions that's a terrifying way to die
>do stupid shit
>describe it with big words
>???
>profit
3:23 "IGORS" theme, a really nice choice its these subtle details you throw in that make me appreciate your channel and hard work.
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As someone who is about to graduate next week with my Masters of Fine Arts - contemporary art is the absolute dumbest thing. Teaching my students to just make cool shit and present it with confidence
Contemporary art has been by far the most memorable to me, and has affected me more than any other art form simply because it is completely unrestricted in its medium, and is therefore freer than any other art form to express and convey its message.
There is bad art, but the reason you see more bad contemporary art is because you are contemporary. Had you lived in the 1700s, you would have seen all the bad 1700s art that is forgotten and unseen now.
@@rakelodakelI know you felt so skibidi typing this
@@rakelodakel time to accept objectivity means more than what is taught in higher education in regards to what is and isn't ok. Bad art exists and is prolific in affluent and higher class circles, whilst in education you'll believe you're part of this enlightened upper caste - the second you graduate you'll re-join the rest of us unwashed scum in the real world and realise that objective ugliness and deconstruction is a demoralising factor employed against the common person by those on high.
I mean, presenting "cool stuff with confidence" is where contemporary art comes from. That's all these people are doing.
@@Maddie-123-p88 I did
The absolute state of "modern art" is perfectly encapsulated by the "sands of time" being recorded in portrait mode.
What is wild about the Robot arm isn't so much that it's trying to clean up the pool. But I remember it on a reddit post:
"No piece of art has ever emotionally affected me the way this robot arm piece has. It's programmed to try to contain the hydraulic fluid that’s constantly leaking out and required to keep itself running...if too much escapes, it will die so it's desperately trying to pull it back to continue to fight for another day. Saddest part is they gave the robot the ability to do these 'happy dances' to spectators. When the project was first launched it danced around spending most of its time interacting with the crowd since it could quickly pull back the small spillage. Many years later... (as you see it now in the video) it looks tired and hopeless as there isn't enough time to dance anymore.. It now only has enough time to try to keep itself alive as the amount of leaked hydraulic fluid became unmanageable as the spill grew over time. Living its last days in a never-ending cycle between sustaining life and simultaneously bleeding out... (Figuratively and literally as its hydraulic fluid was purposefully made to look like it's actual blood). "The robot arm finally ran out of hydraulic fluid in 2019, slowly came to a halt and died "
I've heard it was electric powered but still the message is powerful... until the artists said it was about immigration which makes 0 sense
yeah idk about the whole immigration thing, but the hopelessness and monotony it makes people feel is definitely real, what I also think is interesting is how we as humans give this machine human emotions, and most people feel like the machine is sad or we're sad for it, just another interesting layer
Is the robotic arm for sale? How well do you think it will fit in a living room?
I found the answer to this.
The arm is a KUKA model KR180 R3100 K. It has a footprint of 800mm x 830mm and a weight of approximately 1168kg, costing $19.000. it is rated to lift 180kg but can lift 230kg at most.
It‘s ambient temperature during operation is 10 °C to 55 °C. It‘s controller is a KR C4
It could fit in a large enough home, given it has enough room.
Okay, now I’m really sad :(
Modern art is a rich people loop hole for the most part. And everyone is basically in it together, very rare is it an actual "new upsommung artist" that hasn't been planted there by someone rich and got hyped up to make their work worth money. Then if they get a piece worth something they can donate it and count it as a charitable tax write off especially if the art in question was worth millions. So to everyone trying to break into it either keep dreaming, find someone rich that you can pull this scheme off with or get so good and so much exposure you can't be denied your place.
Wouldn't it just be easier to donate for a tax write off? Like mail a check or put this whole "scheme" together..
crazy how you made this all up
@@MoreReds it'd be easier to set them up to win the lottery. Everyone gets a good check and status to a degree. That's long term money. Why would they want the shortest end of the stick when they can drag it on for years at a time?
@@starsalior4503 it's to the best of my recollection and I have no reason to lie to strangers on the internet. If you have an interjection, just make it. Isn't that what the comment section is for? I'm just some guy on the internet so you can take it with as few grains of salt as you can but I didn't try to benefit myself in any way and it doesn't do anything for me. I wanted more to emphasize the message at the end because it is a cruel industry to enter with high hopes and no idea how to claim their possition in that world. There are alot of factors but I'm not going to write you a 2 page exam paper on my stance. Use the comment section and get the convo of this going. I'm always down to see someone elses point of view or experience and I'm pretty sure there are going to be people looking for reads, they might learn something.
@@starsalior4503 it's to the best of my recollection and lying to strangers on the internet does nothing for me. If you have an interjection just speak up it's what the comment section is here for. I'm not about to shoot down anyones experiences because we're all just randoms on the internet so you can take as many grains of salt as you'd like and it wouldn't bother anyone.
I too have dropped my snare drum on the ground before and got sounds I never thought a snare drum could make.
As someone who's actually going to school for art, it's a real slap in the face when people with no real skill make thousands off of their "art." I've been practicing my craft for seven years, but these people will quickly upstage real artists.
only because we let them and don't want to "hurt feelings" or be contentious with the correct assessment that most of this is trash, pushed by vapid and vacuous trash heaps. Like when you don't immediately tell someone their affinity for and adherence to astrology shit or crystals is stupid and has no effect on anything.... Seems harmless, until you realize that if you don't give them the real deal, do you really even care about them?
what is a real artist?
I blame the people who give highly conceptual substance over style art attention more than the people who make the art
@@TrainerGoldAltYou create something that can't be easily replicated by an untrained person
@@TrainerGoldAltoh shut up don’t be like that.
drummer here that was deep into solo snare performance in high school; i recommend checking out "Asventuras" by Alexej Gerassimez for some "experimental" snare goodness that is genuinely musical and very cool to listen to. its on youtube
Sounds like something an alternate would say!
@@christianlowman2698 don't think it does hoss!!
I think that people are buying not because they like the performance or the art piece, but because they just want the guy to stop jumping, leaning on moving mud, crumpling paper, beating the shit out of a table or something else which could cause an injury. It's basically begging but with extra steps.
The Ryobi drill vs Milwaukee drill bit had me in stitches. I’ve worked with both visiting their manufacturing ops in Guangzhou. They’re under the same parent company and manufacture their tools at the same factory anyway lol
Man as an art student it is wild to see some of the bizarre pretentious post-modern slop that gets into a gallery and becomes successful lol
The prerequisite to be an artist now is not the talent and hard work to hone your craft, but the sheer audacity and fart-sniffing self-aggrandizement to consider be one.
The robot trying to clean up the oil reminds me of a man trying to hold in his own intestines from spilling out.
I love whoever edits these videos, at 21:31 papa says “Paris” and they added a half second of Kanye’s “gentlemen in Paris” it’s the little things that kill me in these videos
Gentleman in Paris I love that Kanye made it so difficult for everyone to talk about that song.
I was hoping someone else noticed lol
Lmaaooo I peeped that too came to the comments to see if anyone else noticed there’s one at 18:50 too😂😂
I love that there’s some love for load and reload, I love that album and I never see people talk about it
I think DuChamp’s “Le Fountain” was remarkable in the fact that it was done in 1917 not 1940, doing something like this was beyond unheard of at the time and he still followed the artistic guidelines of the gallery space which was “whatever you bring us no matter how good or bad it is we will hang it up and display it” and DuChamp went bet and scribbled his name on a urinal. It’s art in the way that defiance itself is art, it’s a statement that even the things you see every day can be art even if you piss in it. It also says that what i see in art is not exactly what you would see but its art regardless. Like for 1917 that was mind blowing. It was meme art before meme art. You gotta respect that.
He also never said it was “good” art, just that it was in fact art. Easy to take that for granted now but at the time even impressionist art and the like was considered “not real art” because it wasn’t a picture of a fucking apple or something.
Art was also considered to be for the bourgeois not the common people, so to take something as lowly and common and purely utilitarian as a urinal, and call that art, was also a statement about who art was for
With the buckets of sand that topple under their own weight, that sounds like a great metaphor that you write into a book about geopolitical turmoil or that a character recites in a revolutionary fantasy novel, not an entire standalone art piece.
"The formless form" "The dance of creation that leads to nothingness"
That's some JRPG shit right there.
DANXE WITH ME LOIS! DANCE THEBDANCE OF LIFE!
I also got a BFarts in illustration. It does wonders for my job as a supervisor at an electrical supply warehouse.
Do you all call it Bfarts on purpose as a joke or what 😂
How r u even qualified to be a supervisor
It's doing wonders for me as a pizza delivery driver as well 😌
@@D9t-p8w yes
@@Sluglove I learned how to scam people in art school and tricked them into making me the boss
The Ryobi sneaker drills were displayed until some guy in a green sweater ran in, said something about 'teaching them to learn to walk on land', and threw them into an aquarium.
Last night I awoke in the dead of night, flung out of bed, and began inventing machines
There’s something cathartic about one of your favorite contemporary artists tearing apart lazy and/or snobby artist projects lol. Sucks when the faux deep art exhibits overshadow genuinely talented modern artists.
ALSO if anyone wants an example of awesome contemporary art, Ron Mueck does crazy hyper-realistic giant sculptures.
I would be genuinely interested in hearing you talk more about contemporary/ modern art that you are super into. Some performances art pieces are so rad. Thanks as always for the amazing video.
Its even more sad, that liquid is its "blood"(hydrolic fluid) it has to collect said pool while slowly bleeding out and losing pressure.
The concept was pretty cool but if I remember correctly, the artist lied as he couldn't get it working without electric motors
12:01 the face he makes after trying his best to say "indefinableness" and then getting immediately sucker punched by "flagrancy" just destroyed me
I think they removed that part. The vid is shorter now. I was drinking a milkshake and almost spit it out, then choked on it
13:30 so many years ago I saw parts of this "performance" but the video I knew stopped after the guy pulled out the cane flute thing. I feel so blessed to finally see more of that "performance"
I really enjoyed this video. I’d love to see more videos of you talking about contemporary and modern art.
as an artist i can very confidently say that 90% of these are just things the artists made bc they thought it was cool and then they just slapped those insane descriptions on later to make whatever they did look somewhat meaningful
I completely agree. Although I do think it’s fun to make the work first and then figure out what it means after you can take a step back from it. But yeah, a lot of these could be chalked up to BS 😅
I’m a big Beksinski fan. He’s created some of the most harrowing and dark works of art I’ve seen. His experience under Nazi and Soviet control in his home country of Poland really adds layers to the art. His use of Prussian blue in some of his art is made from the same chemicals used in the gas chambers in concentration camps.
Other artists I’d recommend are: Otto Dix, John Martin, Vladimir Kush, Heironymous Bosch, MC Escher, Gustav Dore, and Bruegel
I left artschool due to being expected to fork out $5,000 to pay for the bronze we were going to use in the second year even though we were given a month of notice to pay it (like we weren't told until we got the form and how to pay). This was literally in the first two months of art school, like I get they probably had to order it but only gave us a month to pay for it, didn't mention it beforehand. I as pretty bummed at first knowing there was no way I could pay. I had literally been able to pay to go by getting a student loan... So no way I could afford the extra $5,000. I quickly realised you had to be from a well off/wealthy family to afford going there sadly, and my mum as hard as she worked for us was still just making below minimum wage so there was no way I wanted to ask her for help. I had been so excited to go, it was literally one of if not the top art school in the country to get into and I was one of three of the people accepted from my state that year out of hundreds of applicants, I was so proud of myself and so excited only to have it blow up in my face with that single month to get $5,000 together unexpectedly (like there was no mention of this at all and no way to arrange to pay it off either). I kept going to classes for the month leading up to it to see if it was something I really wanted to do so if I really did want to go I would try my best to figure out how to pay. Well I think it turned out to be a blessing in disguise. I quickly realised how pretentious and honestly bullshit it all was. They were very much into fine art there and one class we had to go around and look at all the art installations and ponder their meaning, then write down our thoughts and present it to the teacher. I kept thinking to myself lmao maybe they just thought it would look cool/pretty but would make up some BS to fit what was wanted from us. Then there was one where we had to just create something. So I just used matchsicks and a hot gluegun and stuck them together in a sort of pattern, both sides mirroring eachother because I thought it might look pretty, it ended up looking kind of like a double helix. When I finished my teacher was like "Wow, I love the way you used negative space and used it to bring the whole piece together." I literally had other students come over and compliment it and I was sitting there thinking to myself "all I did was glue matchsticks together in diamond and square patterns... and just mirrored it on the other side... because I thought it might look cool..." Yeah, after that I realised it may not be the place for me, even though I loved making art the mindset expected and the reason why you did what you did was just completely different to how I decided to do things. And it all seemed like bull to me. So probably lucky I couldn't afford the bronze because that way when I left I was able to basically pay the whole loan back without a buttload of interest later on XD
28:07 the “art” is the machine arm is leaking hydraulic fluid that makes the arm move, is the equivalent of a human being hooked up to a machine that drains the blood and pours it onto the floor and the person has to scoop it up into an area that will collect the blood and pump into into the person or they will die from the blood loss.
That sounds mental as hell, honestly
I'm finishing my BFA this week and going into my MFA and HOH BOY I love that one of my fave animators is covering a topic I deal with multiple times a week. I openly hate the pretentious, which y'all can guess how that's going with being in the art school system. I'm finishing a 5 minute animatic for one class (basically a butt ton of physical labor) and in one of my art history discussion classes, my professor brought up Haim Steinbach's Supremely Black (google it and be disappointed). It was EXCRUTIATING watching my classmates try to intellectualize it- mainly because these are smart people who were able to make it sound much smarter than it is. I eventually just said that we should move on because bullshit artists depend on intelligent people to validate them. This wouldn't be an issue except they're taking up time and space from real artists who both have good art and smart things to say. I'd rather discuss the many other great works of art (even contemporary ones!) in the limited class time I'm paying thousands for.
TL;DR Being in the fine arts field, I'm so glad you're talking about this because I believe the only way to get rid of these bullshitters is by challenging them. Truth is, they don't stand a chance against real/good artists and they know it. Call em on it.
The snare drum dude sounds like a rave when your in the bathroom
Art is so simple nowadays,
tape+banna
Sand+bucket
umbrella+ bucket
Table+rocket
Man with long hair+ drums+ bad mic+ audience
Can’t Help Myself is my favorite art piece. I wasn’t aware of what it actually represented/the meaning behind it until watching this video. When I first saw it it it genuinely made me emotional and tear up. I related it to my personal struggle with metal health/drug addiction. In the way that you’re constantly trying to clean up the mess your life has become but it’s continually a struggle. If it’s not one thing, it’s another. It’s one thing after another. Sad shit I know but in October I’ll be clean and sober 5 years baby! But man when I heard the artists intended it to represent immigration i immediately thought of my great grandparents and made me emotional all over again. Both from Mexico and lived through the Mexican Revolution as kids. They met, got married and decided to immigrate to the U.S. Grandfather immigrated first and went back to Mexico to visit my grandmother periodically. He went first to start building a foundation I guess you could say. Like get a job, save money, find a place tp live. After 5 years my grandma finally immigrated and joined him but she had gotten pregnant shortly before so she crossed the Rio Grande with her new baby. They ended up having 6 kids. Unfortunately, they ended up getting tuberculosis at the same time. They had to go to a sanitarium. Their kids had to be put in foster care. My grandmother recovered and went on to live into her 80’s. My grandfather did not. He died in the sanitarium. My grandmother ended up a single mother of 6. My grandfather was the one who worked and made all the money while she raised the children. She collected her kids from foster care and worked her ass off with very little help to support her and her 6 kids. Never in my life will I work as hard as those two! ❤️
Dude I love Load and ReLoad, Outlaw Torn and Bleeding Me are bangers.
For one of my high school classes I had ap art history and we learned about contemporary art everything past the 1900s is bs like the man bitting and scratching a chocolate box and considering it art and another work of a woman who was just obsessed with dots and orgys
Are you having a stroke because I can NOT make sense of this
"a art work from of a bitten"?
Wat?
@@Pragabond I tend to type fast and I don’t feel like rewriting things so it looks like a mess the answer to that is no I’m not having a stroke but I do have occasional seizures and spasms because I am a weird little boy
The best part about art is that it’s whatever you believe it to be. There’s no field more individualistic in its perception. It’s just amazing
Thats autism...
Papa Meat is one the best channels TH-cam has to offer truly. I cant get enough of this content. I dont know your name Papa Meat dude but you are awesome. The world needs many more people like you.
Fun fact: most modern art exists for the purpose of money laundering
Fun fact 2: The guy whose “art piece” is a dead shark keeps having to kill new sharks because the old one rots.
Fun fact 3: Urinals, chairs, and most other objects taken and presented without change are indeed art(as the design of 3D, everyday objects is some of the most complex and iterative in any industry), but the designer is almost never the one submitting it as art and so they are never credited :(
I feel like the deeper the meaning you try to staple to contemporary art the less it means. You can absolutely do silly things for art, but embracing the silly somehow feels more substantial.
“This comment is about how humans and governments are fragile and how small we really are and look how deep we are!”
- basically every modern “””art””” piece.
the shrink wrap idea is kinda cool...but it needs NAKED STRIPPERS INSIDE. (You know ..for art.)
(ILL DO IT)
Every time i see something from Pollock, my first thought is: "That guy musta been *angry*, mood"
i kinda empathize with just throwing paint at a canvas until your anger and pain makes something of it, especially with how much stuff he's gone through in his personal life
Idk if this adds anything for you- but Polluck was consistently Piss Drunk every time he made one of those splatter paintings
The SECOND I saw the guy walk out at 12:43 and saw that menacing stare I knew what was gonna happen 😭 I saw that clip a long time ago and remember cackling like a seal. It’s so unhinged and the fact that it was performance art is the cherry on top.
Exactly what I thought 😭
21:57 dude I freaking love piss Christ I’m glad another artist likes it too
2:37 damn hunter lookin buff back in the day (circa 1978)
Fuckin snacc
The swinging bucket and galaxy paintings are much better (imo) then anything you shown today.
Every peice of art I would make would be described as "idk, I thought it would be neat."
I just wanted to say, as far as art goes, you Papa Meat and Junji Ito have always been the two people I look up to the most with my art. You both have an amazing talent for body horror and giving fear a new name with story lines being incredibly unique and fascinating. Thank you for helping me accept my love of body horror artwork and pursuing on my journey of making my own.
I think my favourite modern artist is Zdzislaw Beksinski, his art is just so sick and just the way he draws beings and these messed up, hellish worlds is so cool
I had to do a little project about Beksinski in high school for my teacher (she wasn’t very nice tbh) but I was also able to look at Beksinski’s art. Fantastic stuff, truly.
I mean, Beksinski died 20 years ago, with most of his work being at least from the 80s and 90's, I don't know how accurate is to call him "modern"
Read the whole wiki page on Francis bacon (1561) before realizing there was another Francis bacon (1909) who was an artist
12:32 That is how you summon Slaanesh right there. All you need is to paint the performers purple and you got a Daemonette.
Yes 😂. Good point.
Thank you, Mr Pringle
Nah
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@Tiger10002 Taking a look at your channel, it's just gameplay videos and tiktok re-uploads, how is a professional camera going to help for either of those things?
Like over ten years ago now, there was a guy who had sold a series of pieces titled The Purple Squirt. He would do live paintings before a gallery observers too. There would be cheese and wine served I'm sure.
One Art thats very underappriciated is culinary art. What other kind of art is more relevant than something that you can actively consume. You experience the art like no other. Plus, eating is just an incredible experience.
even that can get out of hand. like pretentious food people? the WORST. "heres this $1,000 meal thats just chopped liver of a drunk goose with some red sauce and disgustingly bitter wine"
@LewdsandComix I think there is a very widespread misconception on how fine dining works. Yes, there are places where you can order a $1000 steak, but those are pretentious restaurants with obvious reviews with lower ratings, you wont see them with a michelin star. Most restaurants let you order an entire meal consisting of 10-20 dishes for a whole cost, I paid around $200 for 6 dishes at an Indian restaurant in Nashville, and it was the best food I've had in my entire life. The high cost is because they use the best ingredients in the entire world, literally flying in certain ingredients weekly. I'm a chef so ik how stupidly expensive restaurants are to run, especially fine dining. The average restaurant charges x3 the value of anything. A lot do a lot more than that.
ok, I'll do you one better and I'll eat the Mona Lisa
I don’t know if you’re kidding or not but you’re scaring the hoes
The best pieces of art in the world are my wifes home-cooked meals.
As soon as I saw the metal pole dancing I knew exactly what motion on particular guy was gonna do with his hips. Love that clip
Man, these captchas are getting sophisticated. I haven't seen the puzzle piece yet, but I can tell there's no way some machine could manage that Herculean task.
I just got the “The Shrink” part and dude that is not a new thing it’s literally just like this weird kink where people get sealed in layers of latex and have a tube to breathe.
Papa mentioned it 🫡
That shrink wrap stuff looks like the beginning of a SAW trap dude....
Sun Yuan und Peng Yu (the people who made “can’t help myself”) have another piece of art where they brought the dead corpse of Siamese twin babies and injected the babies with their own blood, then later one of them fed liposuctioned human fat and fed it to a baby/child corpse. They made the art after they got married.
WHAT .
My go-to way to evaluate art is to gauge the intent and the execution of an artwork. It's so easy to tell if art is pretentious if you don't feel effort in how it's executed. You can feel the intent of a Pollock or a Rothko because of the execution (yes, seemingly random paint on canvas can still make you feel things), but I don’t know about a Signer.