The charter school I went to was created by parents who were fed up with the public schools and to make a long story short, my class was the top class in Colorado.
Good for you and the parents, but I'm sorry your anecdotal story is not representative of country as a whole, Charter schools do not outperform public schools, and many kids are left behind. I would be pro charter if they had to do the following: Well regulated 1) can't deny acceptance to anyone, everyone must be served (this is the standard the public school system has faced), 2) Can't expel students without probable cause, 3) Must contain similar facilities as public schools, gymnasiums, arts and sports programs etc.. If they follow all these rules, then the public school system would welcome the challenge. But again, right wingers believe in the fantasy that un-regulated capitalism which has destroyed the middle class, sent manufacturing jobs overseas, was the cause of the 2008 financial crisis is somehow always the correct solution. Data and facts prove them wrong everytime.
Nice! I'm currently studying physcial education in college. My goal is to eventually start a charter school. When I was in highschool literally everyday students would Beat each other up and then come back 10 days later and do it again.
I go to a charter school, it's project based, since I've taken extra classes freshmen year second semester of my senior year I only have to take three classes, since moving to a charter project based school my grades have improved. The traditional public school however doesn't work for me, there's to many students so when I ask for help I don't always get it. My charter school is great, and I'm going into my senior year. I've been going to a charter school for three years.
I don't mind charter schools. i just thing they need regulation to keep them from causing harm. Look at Florida, Pennsylvania and Ohio charters. There are good ones but their are also for to many scam schools just in it for the profit. Their is curoption in the public school system but percentage wise charters are far worse.
first off it don't matter if it's free a working poor family needs a bus system. at the end of the day it will take funding from public schools.vocher systems demand a certain level of ability thus taking good students and justifying budget cuts to less preforming schools.
@@kratominspector628 There is always a way to get private school payed for without paying for it yourself and also I attend a charter school that is far away from my house, and I just carpool with my friend. There's always other alternatives.
A Charter school saved my life when I was going through a difficult depression. I was a very good/model student at my public school with advanced classes and so on. But depression disrupted my life. I was allowed to go to a charter school and I was able to recover and continue my life.
A lot of "top-performing" charter schools change or even give students answers to state tests and that is why they look like theyre performing so well even if they are not
Charter schools demonstrate quite effectively that the problem with public education isn't lack of funds; it is a lack of competent caring teachers, excessive regulations, and an incompetent and bloated administration. Realistically, if you eliminated 80% of the regulations, laid of the bulk of administrators, fired the incompetent teachers, and took half the savings to pay for better materials and to give teachers a raise, most public education would be superior and lower cost.
HappySqrl Walk a mile in the shoes of both a Charter school teacher and Public School teacher. See how your perspective changes. I've taught 6 years in the public school system. Every year I meet someone who has left Charter school because of how corrupt it was. They are "For-Profit" scammers that fail to perform any better than public schools and overwork their teachers who realize it's not worth it. So they leave.
I'm all for charter schools. I went to 3 different high schools. The charter schools are less likely to pursue a regressive agenda and I was able to turn bring my terrible 2.6 gpa into a 3.8. At my public school since I have depression and mild Aspergers I was in the general special ed program just so that the school got more funding and I feel way behind in work. Being disadvantaged I had to teach myself algebra and Latin (Latin being a miracle since I'm no savant). When I switched to charter everything went reverse and I was being taught and understanding calculus with several learning disabilities and can read very basic Early English. If it weren't for the charter school, that is free, I would have failed high school. Yes I changed my school ethics but at least 50% goes to the charter school; I could go on.
charter schools dont compete through education, they overwhelmingly compete with the aesthetic of their schools, because that is the largest empirical factor that parents cite when choosing a school because its the most visible. This is why the "competition' that we see in cities like New Orleans is just marketing. Also competition is cool until you oversaturate the market creating a a massively deregulated bubble waiting to pop with any number of lawsuits. Also the biggest issue with the public education system is funding, this is important because while it is true that charters r in urban low income areas, and perform decently in these areas, they drain money from the public schools around them, and these schools arent able to recoup 80% of the costs becuase most of them are fixed, such as electricity, infrastructure, and water, that further hurts the public schools around them which overwhelmingly have the disabled and harder to work with students that charters threw back onto public schools, which is why their attrition rates are terrible, and even when their attrition rates are relatively fairer, they dont backlog their schools, meaning even though they had 100 students at the beginning of the year, they end up with 30 students that are cherry picked to be high performers. On top of that in most states it takes 3 years before charters are required to release report cards to the statistcs used by major studies to test the effectiveness for the state, so failing charters schools choose to either divest and get bough out by larger charters or fold, forcing these students back on the public system. AND then on top of all fo that, in cities like new Orleans becuase they overwhelmingly r unwilling to pay teachers a fair salary they hire first year out college graduates and teachers with little to no experience and and the turnover rate is astronomical because they are unwilling to pay them after they get experience, this results in the uberization of the teacher industry and deprofessionalizes it. This contributes to the teacher shortage which is already a crisis in the US, and because they overwhelmingly prevent unionization, teachers cant get fair wages, and wages are critical to teacher and ultimately student success. Privatization may be good, but some oversight, and checks and balances on charters that operate in the greyzone between private and public MUST occur. Their has already been reports of financial fraud and embezzlement upwards of 200 million dollars by charters in the US, this has to stop. When you put profits over education, you hurt the students that are most in need of help, this idea that EVERYTHING can be privatized is absolutely terrible, the public school monopoly was not perfect but much better in so far as it was democratically controlled.
My son went to a year round charter school, they wore uniforms to keep kids from being distracted with labels and name brands. They had a small staff to child ratio 1 teacher/ 25 students, they had foreign language programs , not just the usual Spanish and French, but Italian, German, Swahili, and 2 more I can't remember. They were a preforming arts school prek- 8th grade with band and reading sheet music starting at 3rd grade instead of 6th grade like most schools, ballet, choir, and a study abroad program. They had opposition from the county schools, and haters tried to stop the school from the beginning, but they survived, and are doing well. I am VERY glad I sent him to a charter school, they even made teachers stay after school and tutor students for the end of grade tests (eog) as it's called.
25 kids to a classroom isn't a low ratio. Public schools must abide by DESE in my state and caps all classroom at 20 and that is still too high in my opinion. And as for teachers staying after school to tutor, well that's far from unique. Every teacher I know, and as a 16 year veteran of teaching I know several, stays after school at the very least one hour to help any student that needs it, and though it is more rare, there are some that come in early to help students that can't stay after school for help.
I hated attending a charter school 1st-8th grade. We wore a button down and tacky tie every day, social constrictions prevented us from ever having fun, 'our' athletics forced us to join with other schools and leagues we weren't supposed to be a part of, we ALWAYS had homework unlike other local schools, and punishments were always swift and harsh. Then I got to hs and I excelled in everything. Then I got to undergrad and excelled in everything. Now I am in medical school and, well, its just hard for everyone. While I still hate my elementary and middle school it prepared me for the future well beyond some of my public school peers.
You had a dress code, rules, and had to play against teams you didnt want to- this doesnt sound like anything bad. Your lack of fun more than likely came from being a kid in school.
icidagod937 I thought you were explaining that it was "just a big meme" that you appreciate the hard part of your childhood after you grow up, and was confused because I never heard of this meme before I read his name
Went to charter school in 7-8th grade. I had an incredible experience even though it was in a poorer area with not so great schools. Definitely one of the highlights of my education.
I have several family members who work in public education, and the thing that I remember hearing about when I was in school and even now is the constant unfunded mandates that come from the state. "Student have to get x number of minutes of fresh air per day." "Students need to get x number of minutes of sunlight per day." "Students need to engage in x number of minutes of physical activity per week." "Students should not be getting more than x number of grams of fat per meal." "Students should not have access to vending machines that contain only sugar laden beverages in locker rooms." This kind of nonsense coming down from local, state and federal government causes a diversion of resources, both time and money, from educating students. Additionally, the focus on standardized teaching and testing has actually hurt students. Many schools have cut art and music programs to make time for subjects that students will be tested on. Even history programs, which are often left off of these tests, have been cut. For a while the local union had a clause in the contract that all meetings take place during the school day so that teachers did not need to come in early or stay late, which again pulls the teacher out of the classroom and interrupts instruction of the students. Are charter schools perfect? No. Is the public education system broken? Oh Yeah. Can we fix it by just throwing money at the problem? Pretty clearly no, seeing as we've been trying to do just that since the 1980's.
Your states didn't make those mandates your local education boards did. Fresh air and activity don't cost a thing. Duh. When your country creates redlined unresourced areas with poverty trauma and malnourished children, then you do have to throw money at the school. You have created handicapped children with development issues that will last a lifetime.
I went to a charter school for 3 years. Now that I go to a public school, I can say I’ve loved public school so much more. Charter schools (at least mine) are MUCH less regulated. I felt like I didn’t learn much during my 3 years at the charter because of less regulation and certain rules and regulations that would’ve been enforced in public school. There is a reason why students need more regulations and rules. I am doing great here at my public school that I go to now (it is a high school). I’ve learned so much more than I ever have at my years at the charter school. I love public school, and I would never send my children to a charter school. While public schools have more enforced regulations, there is a good reason behind them resulting in me having way better grades, and learning so much more. That’s why I will always support public schools.
But if a charter school doesn't offer a good education, it will fail. The regulation is people not thinking it's a good school and deciding to send their kids elsewhere.
@@izdatsumcp And that is why a number of charter schools change or even give students state test answers so the school looks like it is performing well even if it is not
Why would you even send your children to schools at this point, they're made to produce factory workers, and teach kids just to memorize data just so they can regurgitate it on a test later, without first teaching them how to properly use logic reasoning and critical deductive thinking. I'd be able to educate my child better by myself but i guess many people don't have the time and relly on schools, it's sad
When you don't even have the time to make sure you spelled "rely" correctly, I worry about your ability to teach children. And considering your two "sentences" are mostly just run ons and all that jazz, I don't think you'd be well qualified, even to teach in a public school.
Yes, because I cannot find any reason why a Company will hire an entirely homeschooled kid, This is the 21st century, where qualifications actually matter, not the 19th century where you can get hired as an electric engineer if you only studied third grade with a brilliant mind.
I just think it's funny that he talked about being able to teach his kids better than a public school, then proceeds to make easily-fixed grammar and spelling mistakes.
Mr Trugglez I believe you can still take the qualification test even though you are homeschooled and get your elementary/highschool diploma from it. At least in my country it works that way
Folks I’m a sophomore in a Massachusetts public high school. It sucks, not gonna lie. Everyone cheats on everything and makes honor roll. The school gets money that we have no clue where it goes. Our athletic facilities are some of the worst I’ve ever seen. Our current public education system is a joke. A joke that unfortunately doesn’t produce enough educated and ready to work Americans. Our faculty are more concerned with safe spaces and raising awareness for LGBTQ (ya know, because they have it so tough in Massachusetts) than the learning of students. Removing prom king and queen for a “gender neutral” title or making males and females wear the same gown color where they previously wore different colors isn’t going to make us prepared for the world that awaits.
TheShowGamer27 They're even worse in my Massachusetts Charter School. Our so called "teachers" have called me privileged because I'm white, straight and male. Whenever I contribute to a discussion in class that goes against my teacher's opinion I get shut down and sent to the principals office. This isn't a learning environment, it's a place where they feed you propaganda and force their ideology down your throat. There's no learning here.
American Patriot damn that’s rough, when politics are mixed with education not much good can come out. Don’t tell me that I’m “privileged” don’t tell me what to think, just give me my diploma so I can leave because they don’t want me there and I don’t want to be there
School choice (as in most everything else) is a very good thing, for parents are supposed to be in control of their child and his/her education, NOT the government.
TheFew TheProud So the goverment pays your kid's schooling but you are the one who chooses everything? No, "while you live under my roof you live under my rules"
@@losada4852 no. You can have the free education (public schools) the payed education (private schools) or education costing the parents time (home school)
We had a very similar system in Chile, growing and getting better grades and acomplishments but the Bachelet socialist goverment came and closed those schools, because they wanted to level the education, as always,...... down
I used to go to a charter school from my 6th to 9th grade, then I went to a public school at 10th grade. From my personal experience, the charter school was way better because teachers were actually good at teaching and coursework was reasonably rigorous. However, the public school that I went to had horrible teachers that either didn't understand the subject at all, would only talk about current events, or just simply were bad at teaching the subject in general. Everyone in this public school is Democrat, so I kind of feel left out. Right now, I'm taking AP Statistics in my 12th grade year, and I have literally no idea what the teacher is saying, so I have to go to Khan Academy just so I can actually understand the concepts. Charter schools are awesome, but public schools suck.
I go to a charter school, I will say they are amazing, but not for any social reason, there's lots of awkward silences and it's not the best thing, but educationally, it's Amazing!!!!
I used to go to a public school k-5,in my charter middle school,I got bullied for having acne scars and being quiet in each class,I’m saying that I hate charter schools,public schools are always lit
I've heard horror stories from my mom who was a substitute teacher in my school district. She was subbing for a class one day when she jokingly mentioned duct tape and the kids stared in horror at her and told her of a teacher who duct taped a kid to a chair. Her punishment? 3 week suspension. And that was after the parents found out from their kids. The school had no idea until the parents called. This is why we need school choice so kids aren't subjected to this kind of crap!
Reminds me of what happened to the slightly mentally disabled son of someone I know. They did pretty much the same thing to him because he wasn't behaving properly.
It isn't necessarily a question on whether public schools are better in a specific county, it's whether a school system can provide a base amount of information to every student in the country. A private system alone doesn't necessarily guarantee this. Also, the barrier to entry for establishing and running a school would make a private system eventually like an oligopoly, or in the worst case a situation like the cable companies, where specific organizations run counties or cities without competition due to their ability to strangle competition that could be potentially better for the students, but not the organization.
I’m going from a public to charter school, In about a week. I’ve been hearing good things about it, so I’m excited, the reason for going to a charter is bc I’m moving and there is a charter school closer than the public schools in my area.
We yanked our kids out of public school and now we joke about the quality education they got. Everything is better than public school, if Westboro Baptist started a school that would still be better than public school.
A few years ago I went to a charter school called Montessoi (If you haven't heard of it look it up its freaking awesome) this year I'm transferring to another Charter school and I'm so excited!
Education is not something that should involve market competition. In competition there are winners and losers, and there should not be students who receive a much worse education than others. Nearly all American citizens pay taxes and there is no reason the tax dollars should be spent to benefit one American's child more than another. Charter schools are often run by companies and often require a LOTTERY to see which students get into the school. Students should not have to bet their chances on getting into a business to get a good education. Public schools are closing down due to these money machines, which is leaving parents and students in even worse situations than before. There is SO much money being put into these charter schools, so if Betsy DeVos and these other politicians really cared about student's education, they'd seek to put the money into actually fixing the problems with public schools. A major problem with public schools is that a main funding source is property taxes, which creates a system where neighborhoods with rich houses get rich schools and poor people are left with less funding due to the neighborhood they live in. I think the funding sources should be reorganized so that all the funding for schools comes from the state, who distributes the funding to schools evenly. There can be plently of money for every student to learn, without this competition business nonsense that is causing worse education to poorer people (the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer).
I'm from Minnesota and I went to a charter middle school and it was great there. We kept the school somewhat part of the public schools but it wasn't like you got in by location it was either by grades, had family who went there, or for me pure luck.
Public schools in the States used to be very good...50 years ago. The institutions changed and for the worse. Politics, bureaucracy, and Unions have wrecked it.
I'm latino and I attended a charter school. I found it to be so much better than a regular public school. There was a limited number of students per school and grade, allowing the teachers to really know your name and help you stand out as your own person. Instead of a prison like you are "only a number" public school. In my school I was able to attend almost every Friday school trips. I went to visit broadway shows, other states, many museums, and visit restaurants from other countries to experience the food. Thanks to my charter school I did many things I never thought I would do.
Problem is if the Charter school only focusses on bringing in the best test results that doesn't mean they are the best for students. So while good test results sure can be a good sign for a school succeeding it isn't always the best sign of quality education.
TheGlobali did you get offended when you learned charter schools don't subscribe to the church of social justice? Lol come back when you actually understand what education is
That's literally everyone's critique of public school systems- what makes you say Charter schools are the same? They perform better, but that doesnt mean that's all they care about.
My charter school wanted to show off how diverse it's student body was. It was weird, the valedictorian was not the person with the best grades and test scores. It was the person with the biggest sob story. About 1/2 the students had better test scores and grades.
I can say that homeschooling through a charter school has afforded my two grade school children the freedom to choose and flourish in areas that they are personally drawn to while still meeting state standards in general coriculem. They are also free from what has become here on the left coast an indoctrination system of " group think " and what is obviously a social engineering experiment that has specific molding of thought and identity. What I see as a marxists move toward a generation of dummied down social justice warriors.
Cyber charter schools are also amazing and tuition free, just do a Google search for ones in your state! The school provides a printer, laptop, materials for every class, including gym and art class supplies, all i had to provide was printer paper and pencils. The school also gives us money towards a class that we can do locally, like swimming, pottery, whatever we choose. I took my son out of regular public school and put him in an online school towards the end of the school year in April. He was so happy that he didn't have to deal with bullying in 1st grade and he was able to to use the same apps that his previous school also provided for them. He logs in everyday and does a little bit of writing and a lot of his work through his laptop which the school is loaning to us. We upload his completed papers to his teacher. He gets to see his classmates and teacher in a cyber class and they were all able to meet in person at one of the many events the school holds. This charter school doesnt push social justice issues like they did in my son's public school. The teachers are nice and every class that they have is recorded. I love it so much! His school even gives me $35 month towards internet during the school year.
I Completely agree.I'm hoping to get my younger son into a charter school after this school year. Last year was much worse than usual in terms of open propaganda in my sons' classes, events, and school gatherings which included intolerance of differing views, inciting panic in students over illegal immigrant issues (talking to the kids about their friends and classmates being taken away.) and general but blatant rudeness and judgement towards those leaving the public schools to be homeschooled or going to private or charter schools. The principal's graduation speech was peppered with identity politics and downing those families leaving public schools. If they don't want to push parents to send kids elsewhere perhaps they should tone down the political rhetoric and act like they want to teach children the things essential to their thriving in the real world.
My experience with a charter school was throwing extracurriculars like band or sports out the window cuz they wouldn't get funded, having long school days ending at 4:11 unlike public schools which ended at 2:45, and luckily getting a good school with people who actually have personality. Oh and y'all dont wanna hear bout the food 💀
As a public school teacher I am opposed to charter schools. Since they are less regulated, the a prone to enter into shady enrollment practices to boost their scores. I principal I know commented that the local charter school would dump their low performing students on the community school a month before standardized testing. Thus the charter school would look artificially better while the community school looks worse.
RUSSELL STERN What you just said is the equivalent of saying "as a wolf I am opposed to giving weapons to lambs." Charter schools are more accountabile, efficient, and tailored to specific types of students, but you honestly don't like them because they threaten your job.
I went to a character school that was more creative and arts based and in many ways prepped you for college better (block scheduling, more unique electives) it saved me and many many other students from being high school drop outs. It gets criticized from traditional circles because of its more laid back approach to rules (call teachers and staff by their first name, no desks just tables in classrooms, less strict dress code) but the graduation rate there tops the more traditional schools in the district. Some students need a more strict structure and that’s fine but like the video infers, not 1 size fits all.
There is a HUGE issue with charter schools that conservatives overlook: the schools think they can do whatever they want (and for the most part, they can). This means they can ignore the needs of students, for example, I was forced to leave a charter school because I wouldn't complete an assignment that went against my moral values. They told me I can either fail the assignment, or leave the school. In public schools, this would never happen, because their are protections for the students. In private schools, it would also never happen, because the school is a business interested in keeping customers. But charter schools have no financial or legal obligation to protect their student's interests.
I still don't think education should be a "competition", but improving education is very important, I think the government should increase the education budget and that might help improvement
Why are we even talking about this? School is a waste of time; every one of my peers saw it more like a place to meet friends, not a place for "education". Besides, what good was it for us to constantly learn about "box and whisker plots"?
gcHK47 then how do you learn medical science, engineering, law, political science, art, mathematics (for science, and mathematicians), and cooking arts?
My Charter School and the one I went to before moving are so much better with academics but the sports are often lacking so it all really depends on what you're going for. Also I went to a Florida public school for a semester and HATED it, but there's no denying the school spirt and sports are usually way better.
Bennett Floyd how do you know it's a fraction of the cost. If it was that cheap then why are there lotteries for kids to get in? You have these low income kids with all there hopes on a bingo ball, crying when they don't get in. The public money should go to public schools not charter schools that pretend to be public.
Because public schools waste their money on inflated Administrations. Charter schools run streamlined and don't have the same corruption and kickbacks that the public schools do with unions and liberal lawmakers.
Daniel, you're exactly right. Public schools are full of high-paid administrators and staff that do nothing to educate the students. Just how many freaking Assistant Principals does a school need? Geez
A large study - which accounted for selection other biases - show that charter schools have done better than traditional schools. That should settle the discussion. "Taking money from traditional schools" argument is nonsense. It is ultimately students that we care for and not the schools.
While a lot of this may be true, some charter schools are terrible, but get by through wining and dining state officials. Harmony Charter schools are a good example of this. I personally know two people that worked for them and the level of shadiness with them is astounding. There was a documentary going around a couple of years ago called Killing ED that went around a couple of years ago that delves into this. This is just one bad example though. I live down the street from a very highly regarded charter that opened up and we're considering sending our kid to. My point is, treat charters like you would any other school; do your research on them and make sure your kids will get the best possible education.
The reason why charter schools have better test results is because the kids are FORCED to work their asses off. Who would've thought that working more gets you better test results.
A lot of "top performing" charter schools change or even even students the answers to state tests so the school looks like it is performing really well even if it is not
Government shouldn't even be in the education business. they need to stop taking half our income and let us see to our own children's education. it took about all we could do financially but private school and home school is how we did it.
Jannik poor stay poor and the rich stay rich is the kind of argument that socialists (communist fascist) love, because it allows for bigger government, higher taxes and more regulations in order to "evenly" distribute wealth.
Russ Cherry that's fine but how do you propose a poor family pays for school then? Or what would be in place of public schools? I get your point but how would you fix it?
Jannik To get out of a poor household is this: 1) finish high school 2) don't get babies out of wedlock 3) hold down a job 4) put 30% into savings, 50% into necessities, and 20% into whatever
Well, public school didn't necessarily 'prepare' me for the real world. However, I did learn super useful stuff like pi equations, and the distance to the moon. lol
I graduated out of a charter school. After 2 years in a public HS, I was a few credits short to be able to graduate if I continued at the public. At the charter school, I was able to knock out geometry and algebra 2 in less than 1 semester, math being my strong point, and then spend the extra time focusing on my weak points. I finished almost a quarter early and based on the value I put in education, I am sure I would have ended up with a G.E.D. at best, had I stayed in public school.
While the number of charter schools may have risen, the success rate hasn't necessarily changed. This has lead to many students having a less than optimal education when, after a few weeks or months in, the school closes and the students have to move to a different school with potentially different standards or regulations. This quote from John Oliver sums it up: The problem with letting the free market decide when it comes to kids is that kids change faster than the market. And by the time it’s obvious the school is failing, futures may have been ruined.
i went to a charter school in georgia for all of elementary school and the education was great and part of why i went there was for speech and hearing therapy. it helped a lot. however, in the fifth grade the school lost a lot of teachers and the education lacked. overall the school was good and focused on each child but the school was kinda unorganized as such. i found that when i switched over to public school, i enjoyed it better. oh and we also wore uniforms all the time but it prevented bullying so that was a plus! we also had many classes taught like music, spanish, computer science, art, etc. we also had many great field trips and we had many school visitors like the cnn anchor carl azuz.
From my personal experience, I have learned that at my local charter school I attended, the teachers were often incorrect; like when my history teacher said the French and Indian War was the French vs the Indians. Lack of regulations also lead to the school not having to answer to a higher being enabling them to do as they please; whether it benefited the students or not. Also, lack of funding tremendous affected the students which took away opportunities, from such students, that my current public school does give students.
You missed the part where charter schools don't have to accept everyone, pay their teachers less, and often do not hold to national standards and can teach religious doctrine. This is an unfair representation of the debate.
I liked the video but, I would be careful about choosing a charter school. I had a family member teach at a charter school and it was one of the worst experiences in their career. This was because the school was run by a private corporation. This corporation ran the school terribly money-wise. They were extremely corrupt. They eventually got their charter revoked because they were illegally distributing funds to some of their other school sites that were economically better off to build up super high tech campuses, while leaving the schools in the poor areas high and dry. This caused some expenses to just fall off. For example, every once in a while the company that prepared lunches wasn't paid and the students went without food. Eventually when the charter was revoked every child got dumped back into the public school system, which some might argue is the worse option (such as this video). I know this is probably not common in charter schools; I would just warn parents, (and teachers looking for work) to research charter schools before they put their child in them, just like they would with a public school. Always check out the management.
Charter schools are essentially private schools using public funding. As BAD as the public school system is, charter schools only make it worse. They get to pick and choose their students (usually based on grades) and kick out any students not "performing up to their standards." All this does is artificially inflate their numbers by direct manipulation of the system. They get to keep their best-performing students, and send the others back to their zoned schools. I'm sure that the students who are IN a charter school love it, but for the taxpayers and parents/ students who can't get in, charters schools are a fraud, a lie, and a drain on an already stressed public system. We should dump charter schools. If parents want to pay for a private school, let them do so in the free market, but don't force taxpayers to subsidize some kids to go to what is essentially a private school, while their own children are not even allowed into the elitist system they create. Charter schools are a pretty band-aid on a broken system. Either have a public education system or don't, but stop lying to parents about the benefits of a system that will probably not allow their children in, while at the same time forcing them to pay for it.
Most (if not all- I cant confirm they all do) states have laws that forbid charter schools from denying a student access to their programs. The only exceptions are if the amount of students exceeds the amount people the program can handle. This idea that they're a walled garden while also using taxpayer money is false. If a parent/guardian submits an application for a student within the proper filing windows, they will be accepted. "Either have a public education system or don't, but stop lying to parents about the benefits of a system that will probably not allow their children in, while at the same time forcing them to pay for it." This simply doesnt happen.
Actually I had terrible grades lol. And I was accepted into a charter school. To be honest at the time I was a little miserable. There was much homework, unlike friends in public schools had. Punishments were harsh and just annoying. But there was also good. I got to go to school trips almost every Friday lol I been to broadway shows, many museums, other countries food restaurants, other states. And it really overall prepared me for life I think, compared to those in public schools, I think it worked out in my favor.
Dan Baker really? We just went to a charter school meet and greet, as others said you are so wrong. Most specialize in children with poor grades to help them improve. Charter schools allow us to home school with very little Intervention. most parents don't want the responsibility of teaching their children like mine it was a time for escape...
Dan Baker You have no clue what you are talking about. Charter schools do not pick students and aren't selective. What is happening is that teachers who do not perform are simply fired! They only take the best teachers! So students do wonderfully!
I think it's not that "Oh you're poor you get less." It's: "We're paying so much in taxes (rich families), we deserve to send our kids to good schools." So they get more.
Because conservatives are so mad at unions in general that they would rather undermine public education for the purpose of playing politics. You're right, it would be so much easier to just fix the public schools that we already have, instead of forcing them to crumble when money is diverted to charter schools.
+Ohad_Klopman Fix them how? More funding? We've spent gross amounts of money per student with diminishing returns, other countries are far more cost-effective with better results. More standardized teaching? We've tried that with Common Core. Having read through some of the CC textbooks, it's embarrassingly bad. Fire the bad teachers and improve teaching quality? The unions won't let us. Sure, conservatives do generally dislike the teaching unions because they are so politically active and overwhelming Leftist. (My wife's a teacher and I get an NEA magazine from them every couple months because we're forced to pay dues. They are extremely vocal about their political leanings.) But regardless, I don't see how you can avoid the fact that the unions have created a logjam to maintain a form of labor monopoly. Like with all unchallenged monopolies, quality dips, prices soar. Forget politics, until that logjam is broken, things won't improve.
went to a charter school for my last yr and a half of high school. Every student there loved it, these were all kids that were kicked out of public schools for not attending or for failing every subject. The whole school was about 150 students, so every kid knew every kid. The city was trying to shut it down in 2002 for "funding" reasons (at that time it was the only charter school in the borough and called "the last chance school" if you got kicked out of there you were done w/ h.s. no other public school in the city would admit you.) The teachers and the students were friends, the whole school was a family of sorts, and when that decision came down, the students and every teacher alerted the news media that there was going to be a walk out. we got three news vans to come cover it with interviews with teachers and students that made it onto tv. Every student but 1 that was there my senior year graduated, the one that didn't was taken to a mental hospital to be treated for schizophrenia, he had gone off his meds a few months back and it got to the point where the school had to remove him at that time, he was 3 credits away from graduation, but did graduate in January, but he ended up committing suicide quite soon afterwards. ( I know all this about him because he was one of my 3 best friends at that school.) This "last chance school" for "the worst of the worst" kids changed so many of their lives for the better. Charter schools are amazing, they made a lot of kids love going to school.
A friend of mine got new teacher of the year for 8th grade science but was back serving tables because some other teacher with more seniority came back from a 6 year vacation and took his job
I'm currently a Junior at the new California School of the Arts. We're a charter school that started this school year and a sister school to the critically acclaimed Orange County School of the Arts. I honestly wish I went to a charter school way earlier in my years of education. Most public schools are riddled with lazy teachers, outdated teaching techniques, and a lack of unity between students. All the public schools I went to from K-10 were hostile learning environments and made me (and fellow students) not want to be at school. I got straight A's not because I pushed myself or meaningfully learned the content; I simply learned to regurgitate the masses of information that teachers fed us when it was time for the test. If public schooling ever wants to be taken seriously, radical changes need to be made.
In the uk we have private , grammar and comprehensive . Private is the same as yours , grammar are for those who pass their "11+" (exams at the age of 11) and comprehensive are for those who do not pass.
Ive been going to the same charter school here in Phoenix since 1st grade, and our school is one of the best in the city, state, and even the whole country. Nearly everyone I’ve met at my school is incredibly smart, and I’ve met kids going to public schools that know much less for the same classes. At our school, the standard level classes are the equivalent of Honors classes at other schools. Charter schools need to be national and I think every schools needs to go to one.
The video continue to compare charters to public schools. Charters are public schools. The comparison should be charter as opposed to traditional schools.
First 200 years of the United States (1620-1820) America was nearly universally educated through homeschooling, so I wouldn't say "historically" education had been between public and private schools until 1991
Also I commonly hear about charter schools having “smaller class sizes” mine at least (Steele Canyon High School) often had classes over 40 students each in 2015
Yes. The RIGHT charter school is better. Way better. Im amazed at my kids school. Im jealous they werent around when I was in school. As a matter of fact I am learning things as I do homework with my kids. Lol Screw public schools.
The charter school I went to was created by parents who were fed up with the public schools and to make a long story short, my class was the top class in Colorado.
AWESOME. Good job.
That's awesome! Some charters are great and others are not. But to say that all charters are better than all public schools is absurd
wait, i don't know if i was in the top class, but same..
Good for you and the parents, but I'm sorry your anecdotal story is not representative of country as a whole,
Charter schools do not outperform public schools, and many kids are left behind.
I would be pro charter if they had to do the following: Well regulated
1) can't deny acceptance to anyone, everyone must be served (this is the standard the public school system has faced),
2) Can't expel students without probable cause,
3) Must contain similar facilities as public schools, gymnasiums, arts and sports programs etc..
If they follow all these rules, then the public school system would welcome the challenge. But again, right wingers believe in the fantasy that un-regulated capitalism which has destroyed the middle class, sent manufacturing jobs overseas, was the cause of the 2008 financial crisis is somehow always the correct solution. Data and facts prove them wrong everytime.
Nice! I'm currently studying physcial education in college. My goal is to eventually start a charter school. When I was in highschool literally everyday students would Beat each other up and then come back 10 days later and do it again.
I go to a charter school, it's project based, since I've taken extra classes freshmen year second semester of my senior year I only have to take three classes, since moving to a charter project based school my grades have improved. The traditional public school however doesn't work for me, there's to many students so when I ask for help I don't always get it. My charter school is great, and I'm going into my senior year. I've been going to a charter school for three years.
The Angry Pitbull I'm quite happy for you!
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I don't mind charter schools. i just thing they need regulation to keep them from causing harm. Look at Florida, Pennsylvania and Ohio charters. There are good ones but their are also for to many scam schools just in it for the profit. Their is curoption in the public school system but percentage wise charters are far worse.
In Canada in our gifted and talented program it’s all project based. To get in you have score high enough on a test
Wow!! I used to go to a charter school and I didn't really like it, so I go to a public school. I am in 6th grade.
At this point, charter schools, private schools, and homeschooling would be the better alternative.
the poor will be left to rot it's not a good alternative
@@kratominspector628 there are some charter schools that are for free.
first off it don't matter if it's free a working poor family needs a bus system. at the end of the day it will take funding from public schools.vocher systems demand a certain level of ability thus taking good students and justifying budget cuts to less preforming schools.
@@kratominspector628 they also give free bus rides
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There is always a way to get private school payed for without paying for it yourself and also I attend a charter school that is far away from my house, and I just carpool with my friend. There's always other alternatives.
A Charter school saved my life when I was going through a difficult depression. I was a very good/model student at my public school with advanced classes and so on. But depression disrupted my life. I was allowed to go to a charter school and I was able to recover and continue my life.
Icon Panik how does a charter school have anything to do with your depression? Could you expand upon how it saved you from being depressed?
@@teejay89656 Kinda, it's usually for the kids who are not so good in class and who are depressed or have anxiety.
How does that help depression?
@@teejay89656 probably had more attention from the staff on a personal level
@@vinny3163 because charter school has fewer students so the person maybe understood the work easier
So schools without teacher's unions and heavy-handed government requirements actually allow teachers to teach. Who would've known?
A lot of "top-performing" charter schools change or even give students answers to state tests and that is why they look like theyre performing so well even if they are not
@@MP-ef9yo Boom
I am taking Criminal Justice at a charter school. School choice rocks!!!
Charter schools demonstrate quite effectively that the problem with public education isn't lack of funds; it is a lack of competent caring teachers, excessive regulations, and an incompetent and bloated administration.
Realistically, if you eliminated 80% of the regulations, laid of the bulk of administrators, fired the incompetent teachers, and took half the savings to pay for better materials and to give teachers a raise, most public education would be superior and lower cost.
Getting rid of public sector unions would solve most of those problems.
HappySqrl Walk a mile in the shoes of both a Charter school teacher and Public School teacher. See how your perspective changes. I've taught 6 years in the public school system. Every year I meet someone who has left Charter school because of how corrupt it was. They are "For-Profit" scammers that fail to perform any better than public schools and overwork their teachers who realize it's not worth it. So they leave.
HappySqrl getting free money from the government does that to people. That's why Bernie Sanders would have been disastrous
Thank you, someone finally said it.
Amen!!!
I'm all for charter schools. I went to 3 different high schools. The charter schools are less likely to pursue a regressive agenda and I was able to turn bring my terrible 2.6 gpa into a 3.8. At my public school since I have depression and mild Aspergers I was in the general special ed program just so that the school got more funding and I feel way behind in work. Being disadvantaged I had to teach myself algebra and Latin (Latin being a miracle since I'm no savant). When I switched to charter everything went reverse and I was being taught and understanding calculus with several learning disabilities and can read very basic Early English. If it weren't for the charter school, that is free, I would have failed high school. Yes I changed my school ethics but at least 50% goes to the charter school; I could go on.
its hard to take away money from public schools when the school board and union takes most of the money anyways
Competition is awesome
charter schools dont compete through education, they overwhelmingly compete with the aesthetic of their schools, because that is the largest empirical factor that parents cite when choosing a school because its the most visible. This is why the "competition' that we see in cities like New Orleans is just marketing. Also competition is cool until you oversaturate the market creating a a massively deregulated bubble waiting to pop with any number of lawsuits. Also the biggest issue with the public education system is funding, this is important because while it is true that charters r in urban low income areas, and perform decently in these areas, they drain money from the public schools around them, and these schools arent able to recoup 80% of the costs becuase most of them are fixed, such as electricity, infrastructure, and water, that further hurts the public schools around them which overwhelmingly have the disabled and harder to work with students that charters threw back onto public schools, which is why their attrition rates are terrible, and even when their attrition rates are relatively fairer, they dont backlog their schools, meaning even though they had 100 students at the beginning of the year, they end up with 30 students that are cherry picked to be high performers. On top of that in most states it takes 3 years before charters are required to release report cards to the statistcs used by major studies to test the effectiveness for the state, so failing charters schools choose to either divest and get bough out by larger charters or fold, forcing these students back on the public system. AND then on top of all fo that, in cities like new Orleans becuase they overwhelmingly r unwilling to pay teachers a fair salary they hire first year out college graduates and teachers with little to no experience and and the turnover rate is astronomical because they are unwilling to pay them after they get experience, this results in the uberization of the teacher industry and deprofessionalizes it. This contributes to the teacher shortage which is already a crisis in the US, and because they overwhelmingly prevent unionization, teachers cant get fair wages, and wages are critical to teacher and ultimately student success. Privatization may be good, but some oversight, and checks and balances on charters that operate in the greyzone between private and public MUST occur. Their has already been reports of financial fraud and embezzlement upwards of 200 million dollars by charters in the US, this has to stop. When you put profits over education, you hurt the students that are most in need of help, this idea that EVERYTHING can be privatized is absolutely terrible, the public school monopoly was not perfect but much better in so far as it was democratically controlled.
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My son went to a year round charter school, they wore uniforms to keep kids from being distracted with labels and name brands. They had a small staff to child ratio 1 teacher/ 25 students, they had foreign language programs , not just the usual Spanish and French, but Italian, German, Swahili, and 2 more I can't remember. They were a preforming arts school prek- 8th grade with band and reading sheet music starting at 3rd grade instead of 6th grade like most schools, ballet, choir, and a study abroad program. They had opposition from the county schools, and haters tried to stop the school from the beginning, but they survived, and are doing well. I am VERY glad I sent him to a charter school, they even made teachers stay after school and tutor students for the end of grade tests (eog) as it's called.
Rebecca Lucas sort of how my charter school is but it’s 6-12th grade
And would all charter schools be like that?
Man, there's no way on earth I would go to a school that forces uniforms
Noah S. Then stay in your school where kids focus more on fashion than education.
25 kids to a classroom isn't a low ratio. Public schools must abide by DESE in my state and caps all classroom at 20 and that is still too high in my opinion. And as for teachers staying after school to tutor, well that's far from unique. Every teacher I know, and as a 16 year veteran of teaching I know several, stays after school at the very least one hour to help any student that needs it, and though it is more rare, there are some that come in early to help students that can't stay after school for help.
I hated attending a charter school 1st-8th grade. We wore a button down and tacky tie every day, social constrictions prevented us from ever having fun, 'our' athletics forced us to join with other schools and leagues we weren't supposed to be a part of, we ALWAYS had homework unlike other local schools, and punishments were always swift and harsh. Then I got to hs and I excelled in everything. Then I got to undergrad and excelled in everything. Now I am in medical school and, well, its just hard for everyone. While I still hate my elementary and middle school it prepared me for the future well beyond some of my public school peers.
You had a dress code, rules, and had to play against teams you didnt want to- this doesnt sound like anything bad. Your lack of fun more than likely came from being a kid in school.
Just a big meme I appreciate all of the 'bad stuff' now, prepared me for the real world.
icidagod937 I thought you were explaining that it was "just a big meme" that you appreciate the hard part of your childhood after you grow up, and was confused because I never heard of this meme before I read his name
icidagod937 not all schools do that I go to one where we can wear whatever we want just no short shorts nothing revealing etc etc
Anne Cochran Again, I am grateful for it now as it set me up for success.
Went to charter school in 7-8th grade. I had an incredible experience even though it was in a poorer area with not so great schools. Definitely one of the highlights of my education.
I have several family members who work in public education, and the thing that I remember hearing about when I was in school and even now is the constant unfunded mandates that come from the state. "Student have to get x number of minutes of fresh air per day." "Students need to get x number of minutes of sunlight per day." "Students need to engage in x number of minutes of physical activity per week." "Students should not be getting more than x number of grams of fat per meal." "Students should not have access to vending machines that contain only sugar laden beverages in locker rooms." This kind of nonsense coming down from local, state and federal government causes a diversion of resources, both time and money, from educating students.
Additionally, the focus on standardized teaching and testing has actually hurt students. Many schools have cut art and music programs to make time for subjects that students will be tested on. Even history programs, which are often left off of these tests, have been cut. For a while the local union had a clause in the contract that all meetings take place during the school day so that teachers did not need to come in early or stay late, which again pulls the teacher out of the classroom and interrupts instruction of the students.
Are charter schools perfect? No. Is the public education system broken? Oh Yeah. Can we fix it by just throwing money at the problem? Pretty clearly no, seeing as we've been trying to do just that since the 1980's.
Your states didn't make those mandates your local education boards did. Fresh air and activity don't cost a thing. Duh. When your country creates redlined unresourced areas with poverty trauma and malnourished children, then you do have to throw money at the school. You have created handicapped children with development issues that will last a lifetime.
School choice: let good schools get the dollars. If the union blob schools are really better, then they'll succeed without monopolization!
watchdealer11 i disagree
We've used private school and homeschool for our children. It's been such a great blessing to avoid watered down government schools!
I loved my charter school so much, I met most of my friends there, and I gained many of my current skills.
Han Solo solo boy
How much fees
How much fees are paid for charter schools
I went to a charter school for 3 years. Now that I go to a public school, I can say I’ve loved public school so much more. Charter schools (at least mine) are MUCH less regulated. I felt like I didn’t learn much during my 3 years at the charter because of less regulation and certain rules and regulations that would’ve been enforced in public school. There is a reason why students need more regulations and rules. I am doing great here at my public school that I go to now (it is a high school). I’ve learned so much more than I ever have at my years at the charter school. I love public school, and I would never send my children to a charter school. While public schools have more enforced regulations, there is a good reason behind them resulting in me having way better grades, and learning so much more. That’s why I will always support public schools.
But if a charter school doesn't offer a good education, it will fail. The regulation is people not thinking it's a good school and deciding to send their kids elsewhere.
@@izdatsumcp And that is why a number of charter schools change or even give students state test answers so the school looks like it is performing well even if it is not
@@MP-ef9yo lies
@@izdatsumcp its the truth
@@MP-ef9yo union fabrications if anything
Why would you even send your children to schools at this point, they're made to produce factory workers, and teach kids just to memorize data just so they can regurgitate it on a test later, without first teaching them how to properly use logic reasoning and critical deductive thinking. I'd be able to educate my child better by myself but i guess many people don't have the time and relly on schools, it's sad
When you don't even have the time to make sure you spelled "rely" correctly, I worry about your ability to teach children. And considering your two "sentences" are mostly just run ons and all that jazz, I don't think you'd be well qualified, even to teach in a public school.
Billy Russom its a youtube comments section, not a bloody spelling test.
Yes, because I cannot find any reason why a Company will hire an entirely homeschooled kid, This is the 21st century, where qualifications actually matter, not the 19th century where you can get hired as an electric engineer if you only studied third grade with a brilliant mind.
I just think it's funny that he talked about being able to teach his kids better than a public school, then proceeds to make easily-fixed grammar and spelling mistakes.
Mr Trugglez I believe you can still take the qualification test even though you are homeschooled and get your elementary/highschool diploma from it. At least in my country it works that way
If it weren't for charter schools, my cousin would be stuck in an inner city public school.
Folks I’m a sophomore in a Massachusetts public high school. It sucks, not gonna lie. Everyone cheats on everything and makes honor roll. The school gets money that we have no clue where it goes. Our athletic facilities are some of the worst I’ve ever seen. Our current public education system is a joke. A joke that unfortunately doesn’t produce enough educated and ready to work Americans. Our faculty are more concerned with safe spaces and raising awareness for LGBTQ (ya know, because they have it so tough in Massachusetts) than the learning of students. Removing prom king and queen for a “gender neutral” title or making males and females wear the same gown color where they previously wore different colors isn’t going to make us prepared for the world that awaits.
So true. I am a sophomore in Maryland, and it is about the same for us.
TheShowGamer27 They're even worse in my Massachusetts Charter School. Our so called "teachers" have called me privileged because I'm white, straight and male. Whenever I contribute to a discussion in class that goes against my teacher's opinion I get shut down and sent to the principals office. This isn't a learning environment, it's a place where they feed you propaganda and force their ideology down your throat. There's no learning here.
American Patriot damn that’s rough, when politics are mixed with education not much good can come out. Don’t tell me that I’m “privileged” don’t tell me what to think, just give me my diploma so I can leave because they don’t want me there and I don’t want to be there
Holy crap, I was actually thinking of moving to Massachusetts. Your post just changed my mind.
Kyle Hutchings if you do DO NOT move to western mass. It sucks here and it will take a while to turn this region around
School choice (as in most everything else) is a very good thing, for parents are supposed to be in control of their child and his/her education, NOT the government.
TheFew TheProud
So the goverment pays your kid's schooling but you are the one who chooses everything?
No, "while you live under my roof you live under my rules"
@@losada4852 no. You can have the free education (public schools) the payed education (private schools) or education costing the parents time (home school)
Jay Kemme actuly most kids in japan end up dropping out. soooooo
We had a very similar system in Chile, growing and getting better grades and acomplishments but the Bachelet socialist goverment came and closed those schools, because they wanted to level the education, as always,...... down
respect to Friedman friend
I go to a charter school and I love it :)
Same
I used to go to a charter school from my 6th to 9th grade, then I went to a public school at 10th grade. From my personal experience, the charter school was way better because teachers were actually good at teaching and coursework was reasonably rigorous. However, the public school that I went to had horrible teachers that either didn't understand the subject at all, would only talk about current events, or just simply were bad at teaching the subject in general. Everyone in this public school is Democrat, so I kind of feel left out. Right now, I'm taking AP Statistics in my 12th grade year, and I have literally no idea what the teacher is saying, so I have to go to Khan Academy just so I can actually understand the concepts. Charter schools are awesome, but public schools suck.
I go to a charter school, I will say they are amazing, but not for any social reason, there's lots of awkward silences and it's not the best thing, but educationally, it's Amazing!!!!
I used to go to a public school k-5,in my charter middle school,I got bullied for having acne scars and being quiet in each class,I’m saying that I hate charter schools,public schools are always lit
What does "lit" mean? Is "lit" a marketable or intellectual competence?
I've heard horror stories from my mom who was a substitute teacher in my school district. She was subbing for a class one day when she jokingly mentioned duct tape and the kids stared in horror at her and told her of a teacher who duct taped a kid to a chair. Her punishment? 3 week suspension. And that was after the parents found out from their kids. The school had no idea until the parents called. This is why we need school choice so kids aren't subjected to this kind of crap!
Reminds me of what happened to the slightly mentally disabled son of someone I know. They did pretty much the same thing to him because he wasn't behaving properly.
That’s terrible but how do charter schools solve that problem?
It isn't necessarily a question on whether public schools are better in a specific county, it's whether a school system can provide a base amount of information to every student in the country. A private system alone doesn't necessarily guarantee this. Also, the barrier to entry for establishing and running a school would make a private system eventually like an oligopoly, or in the worst case a situation like the cable companies, where specific organizations run counties or cities without competition due to their ability to strangle competition that could be potentially better for the students, but not the organization.
Does a bear shit in the woods?
checkmate
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Correct. A bear shits wood
Yes it can and will dumb ass
I’m going from a public to charter school, In about a week. I’ve been hearing good things about it, so I’m excited, the reason for going to a charter is bc I’m moving and there is a charter school closer than the public schools in my area.
We yanked our kids out of public school and now we joke about the quality education they got.
Everything is better than public school, if Westboro Baptist started a school that would still be better than public school.
A few years ago I went to a charter school called Montessoi (If you haven't heard of it look it up its freaking awesome) this year I'm transferring to another Charter school and I'm so excited!
Excuse me do you learn languages separately from the projects they give you? Thanks
Anything is better than today's Public Schools.
Education is not something that should involve market competition. In competition there are winners and losers, and there should not be students who receive a much worse education than others. Nearly all American citizens pay taxes and there is no reason the tax dollars should be spent to benefit one American's child more than another. Charter schools are often run by companies and often require a LOTTERY to see which students get into the school. Students should not have to bet their chances on getting into a business to get a good education. Public schools are closing down due to these money machines, which is leaving parents and students in even worse situations than before. There is SO much money being put into these charter schools, so if Betsy DeVos and these other politicians really cared about student's education, they'd seek to put the money into actually fixing the problems with public schools. A major problem with public schools is that a main funding source is property taxes, which creates a system where neighborhoods with rich houses get rich schools and poor people are left with less funding due to the neighborhood they live in. I think the funding sources should be reorganized so that all the funding for schools comes from the state, who distributes the funding to schools evenly. There can be plently of money for every student to learn, without this competition business nonsense that is causing worse education to poorer people (the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer).
I'm from Minnesota and I went to a charter middle school and it was great there. We kept the school somewhat part of the public schools but it wasn't like you got in by location it was either by grades, had family who went there, or for me pure luck.
Public schools in the States used to be very good...50 years ago. The institutions changed and for the worse. Politics, bureaucracy, and Unions have wrecked it.
Depends on teachers and accountability
Not all charters or private schools have great teachers either.
I'm latino and I attended a charter school. I found it to be so much better than a regular public school. There was a limited number of students per school and grade, allowing the teachers to really know your name and help you stand out as your own person. Instead of a prison like you are "only a number" public school.
In my school I was able to attend almost every Friday school trips. I went to visit broadway shows, other states, many museums, and visit restaurants from other countries to experience the food. Thanks to my charter school I did many things I never thought I would do.
Charter schools are better because one of the charter schools I went to had this one teacher who actually taught us about life
Eura poohead, so are Charter Schools better?
Problem is if the Charter school only focusses on bringing in the best test results that doesn't mean they are the best for students.
So while good test results sure can be a good sign for a school succeeding it isn't always the best sign of quality education.
TheGlobali so how do you measure success?
TheGlobali did you get offended when you learned charter schools don't subscribe to the church of social justice? Lol come back when you actually understand what education is
That's literally everyone's critique of public school systems- what makes you say Charter schools are the same? They perform better, but that doesnt mean that's all they care about.
My charter school wanted to show off how diverse it's student body was. It was weird, the valedictorian was not the person with the best grades and test scores. It was the person with the biggest sob story. About 1/2 the students had better test scores and grades.
Jeremiah Sams
You can measure success by seeing how many students are able to get into higher education or land jobs/careers in the workforce.
Wait, WHAT do charter school do that public schools don't? I missed it...
Fewer regulations and possible specialisations for students.
Omg Bob I like the fact that you enjoy the same content that I do xDDD
I can say that homeschooling through a charter school has afforded my two grade school children the freedom to choose and flourish in areas that they are personally drawn to while still meeting state standards in general coriculem.
They are also free from what has become here on the left coast an indoctrination system of " group think " and what is obviously a social engineering experiment that has specific molding of thought and identity.
What I see as a marxists move toward a generation of dummied down social justice warriors.
@@tjmooremusic coriculem? bruh
Cyber charter schools are also amazing and tuition free, just do a Google search for ones in your state! The school provides a printer, laptop, materials for every class, including gym and art class supplies, all i had to provide was printer paper and pencils.
The school also gives us money towards a class that we can do locally, like swimming, pottery, whatever we choose.
I took my son out of regular public school and put him in an online school towards the end of the school year in April. He was so happy that he didn't have to deal with bullying in 1st grade and he was able to to use the same apps that his previous school also provided for them. He logs in everyday and does a little bit of writing and a lot of his work through his laptop which the school is loaning to us. We upload his completed papers to his teacher. He gets to see his classmates and teacher in a cyber class and they were all able to meet in person at one of the many events the school holds.
This charter school doesnt push social justice issues like they did in my son's public school. The teachers are nice and every class that they have is recorded. I love it so much! His school even gives me $35 month towards internet during the school year.
I Completely agree.I'm hoping to get my younger son into a charter school after this school year. Last year was much worse than usual in terms of open propaganda in my sons' classes, events, and school gatherings which included intolerance of differing views, inciting panic in students over illegal immigrant issues (talking to the kids about their friends and classmates being taken away.) and general but blatant rudeness and judgement towards those leaving the public schools to be homeschooled or going to private or charter schools. The principal's graduation speech was peppered with identity politics and downing those families leaving public schools. If they don't want to push parents to send kids elsewhere perhaps they should tone down the political rhetoric and act like they want to teach children the things essential to their thriving in the real world.
My experience with a charter school was throwing extracurriculars like band or sports out the window cuz they wouldn't get funded, having long school days ending at 4:11 unlike public schools which ended at 2:45, and luckily getting a good school with people who actually have personality. Oh and y'all dont wanna hear bout the food 💀
Home schooling is the only option
I go to a charter preparatory school and I only have to go twice a week. There are 17 students per class and the teachers are decent. Plus it's free!
As a public school teacher I am opposed to charter schools. Since they are less regulated, the a prone to enter into shady enrollment practices to boost their scores. I principal I know commented that the local charter school would dump their low performing students on the community school a month before standardized testing. Thus the charter school would look artificially better while the community school looks worse.
how are you a teacher with that grammar?
RUSSELL STERN What you just said is the equivalent of saying "as a wolf I am opposed to giving weapons to lambs." Charter schools are more accountabile, efficient, and tailored to specific types of students, but you honestly don't like them because they threaten your job.
I went to a character school that was more creative and arts based and in many ways prepped you for college better (block scheduling, more unique electives) it saved me and many many other students from being high school drop outs. It gets criticized from traditional circles because of its more laid back approach to rules (call teachers and staff by their first name, no desks just tables in classrooms, less strict dress code) but the graduation rate there tops the more traditional schools in the district. Some students need a more strict structure and that’s fine but like the video infers, not 1 size fits all.
I attend a charter school, I love it there! :)
There is a HUGE issue with charter schools that conservatives overlook: the schools think they can do whatever they want (and for the most part, they can). This means they can ignore the needs of students, for example, I was forced to leave a charter school because I wouldn't complete an assignment that went against my moral values. They told me I can either fail the assignment, or leave the school. In public schools, this would never happen, because their are protections for the students. In private schools, it would also never happen, because the school is a business interested in keeping customers. But charter schools have no financial or legal obligation to protect their student's interests.
So i guess a charter school is like a private school i norway. Seems like it any way. Same trend here allso.
I still don't think education should be a "competition", but improving education is very important, I think the government should increase the education budget and that might help improvement
Why are we even talking about this? School is a waste of time; every one of my peers saw it more like a place to meet friends, not a place for "education". Besides, what good was it for us to constantly learn about "box and whisker plots"?
gcHK47 then how do you learn medical science, engineering, law, political science, art, mathematics (for science, and mathematicians), and cooking arts?
Tyler Fishman what about a lawyer?
Tyler Fishman should a lawyer not have to go to school
That's how your friends see iy, not you.
My Charter School and the one I went to before moving are so much better with academics but the sports are often lacking so it all really depends on what you're going for. Also I went to a Florida public school for a semester and HATED it, but there's no denying the school spirt and sports are usually way better.
I'm all for school choice but don't give public school money to a supposed "public" school that doesn't have to play by public school guidelines.
Bennett Floyd how do you know it's a fraction of the cost. If it was that cheap then why are there lotteries for kids to get in? You have these low income kids with all there hopes on a bingo ball, crying when they don't get in. The public money should go to public schools not charter schools that pretend to be public.
Because public schools waste their money on inflated Administrations. Charter schools run streamlined and don't have the same corruption and kickbacks that the public schools do with unions and liberal lawmakers.
Bennett Floyd
Somebody get this man a medal.
Another teacher.
Daniel, you're exactly right. Public schools are full of high-paid administrators and staff that do nothing to educate the students. Just how many freaking Assistant Principals does a school need? Geez
A large study - which accounted for selection other biases - show that charter schools have done better than traditional schools. That should settle the discussion.
"Taking money from traditional schools" argument is nonsense. It is ultimately students that we care for and not the schools.
Outside a defense name me something the private sector doesn't do better than the government
While a lot of this may be true, some charter schools are terrible, but get by through wining and dining state officials. Harmony Charter schools are a good example of this. I personally know two people that worked for them and the level of shadiness with them is astounding. There was a documentary going around a couple of years ago called Killing ED that went around a couple of years ago that delves into this. This is just one bad example though. I live down the street from a very highly regarded charter that opened up and we're considering sending our kid to. My point is, treat charters like you would any other school; do your research on them and make sure your kids will get the best possible education.
17 public school teachers, or their spouses dislike this video.
Are they charter teachers? Cause they ARE public schools.
Haha I am glad I went to an actual public school not the bible-belt charter shit hole.
The reason why charter schools have better test results is because the kids are FORCED to work their asses off. Who would've thought that working more gets you better test results.
A lot of "top performing" charter schools change or even even students the answers to state tests so the school looks like it is performing really well even if it is not
Government shouldn't even be in the education business. they need to stop taking half our income and let us see to our own children's education. it took about all we could do financially but private school and home school is how we did it.
Russ Cherry but the poor stays poor and rich stays rich, there was no chance to move between social status. You might as well establish casts.
Jannik poor stay poor and the rich stay rich is the kind of argument that socialists (communist fascist) love, because it allows for bigger government, higher taxes and more regulations in order to "evenly" distribute wealth.
Russ Cherry that's fine but how do you propose a poor family pays for school then? Or what would be in place of public schools? I get your point but how would you fix it?
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Perhaps poorer families could get vouchers that would make it easier for them to pay for the education that they want for their kids?
Jannik
To get out of a poor household is this:
1) finish high school
2) don't get babies out of wedlock
3) hold down a job
4) put 30% into savings, 50% into necessities, and 20% into whatever
Well, public school didn't necessarily 'prepare' me for the real world. However, I did learn super useful stuff like pi equations, and the distance to the moon. lol
our principal told us charter schools promote segregation smh
I graduated out of a charter school. After 2 years in a public HS, I was a few credits short to be able to graduate if I continued at the public. At the charter school, I was able to knock out geometry and algebra 2 in less than 1 semester, math being my strong point, and then spend the extra time focusing on my weak points. I finished almost a quarter early and based on the value I put in education, I am sure I would have ended up with a G.E.D. at best, had I stayed in public school.
While the number of charter schools may have risen, the success rate hasn't necessarily changed. This has lead to many students having a less than optimal education when, after a few weeks or months in, the school closes and the students have to move to a different school with potentially different standards or regulations. This quote from John Oliver sums it up:
The problem with letting the free market decide when it comes to kids is that kids change faster than the market. And by the time it’s obvious the school is failing, futures may have been ruined.
i went to a charter school in georgia for all of elementary school and the education was great and part of why i went there was for speech and hearing therapy. it helped a lot. however, in the fifth grade the school lost a lot of teachers and the education lacked. overall the school was good and focused on each child but the school was kinda unorganized as such. i found that when i switched over to public school, i enjoyed it better. oh and we also wore uniforms all the time but it prevented bullying so that was a plus! we also had many classes taught like music, spanish, computer science, art, etc. we also had many great field trips and we had many school visitors like the cnn anchor carl azuz.
Incoming "But muh Commie Core"
From my personal experience, I have learned that at my local charter school I attended, the teachers were often incorrect; like when my history teacher said the French and Indian War was the French vs the Indians. Lack of regulations also lead to the school not having to answer to a higher being enabling them to do as they please; whether it benefited the students or not. Also, lack of funding tremendous affected the students which took away opportunities, from such students, that my current public school does give students.
Can you make a video about the republican establishment next?
*GÊLAWDÊOWŠ* Might as well be the whole party. I probably should’ve just said the establishment
There is one about Democrat Establishment: th-cam.com/video/bPblzhUzTeg/w-d-xo.html
We can't have charter schools because than no 1 will be stupid enough to go see an Adam Sandler movie. Lol.
You missed the part where charter schools don't have to accept everyone, pay their teachers less, and often do not hold to national standards and can teach religious doctrine. This is an unfair representation of the debate.
All those things are good except teachers being paid less, which is indifferent.
Can a video be made putting Montessori and Charter schools against each other? I would like to know the pros and cons
These type of videos are schools just looking for more students
???? PragerU isn't a school.
Jacob Snarr: Who said it was a school? I didn't! It was a statement in general
I misunderstood due to your poor grammar. "These type of videos is just a school" makes no sense whatsoever.
Jacob Snarr: You must've forgot to read the complete sentence...
Jacob Snarr: I've spelled everything in the sentence correctly! I've even reworded it to a better understanding point!
I liked the video but, I would be careful about choosing a charter school. I had a family member teach at a charter school and it was one of the worst experiences in their career. This was because the school was run by a private corporation. This corporation ran the school terribly money-wise. They were extremely corrupt. They eventually got their charter revoked because they were illegally distributing funds to some of their other school sites that were economically better off to build up super high tech campuses, while leaving the schools in the poor areas high and dry. This caused some expenses to just fall off. For example, every once in a while the company that prepared lunches wasn't paid and the students went without food. Eventually when the charter was revoked every child got dumped back into the public school system, which some might argue is the worse option (such as this video). I know this is probably not common in charter schools; I would just warn parents, (and teachers looking for work) to research charter schools before they put their child in them, just like they would with a public school. Always check out the management.
Charter schools are essentially private schools using public funding. As BAD as the public school system is, charter schools only make it worse. They get to pick and choose their students (usually based on grades) and kick out any students not "performing up to their standards." All this does is artificially inflate their numbers by direct manipulation of the system. They get to keep their best-performing students, and send the others back to their zoned schools. I'm sure that the students who are IN a charter school love it, but for the taxpayers and parents/ students who can't get in, charters schools are a fraud, a lie, and a drain on an already stressed public system. We should dump charter schools. If parents want to pay for a private school, let them do so in the free market, but don't force taxpayers to subsidize some kids to go to what is essentially a private school, while their own children are not even allowed into the elitist system they create. Charter schools are a pretty band-aid on a broken system. Either have a public education system or don't, but stop lying to parents about the benefits of a system that will probably not allow their children in, while at the same time forcing them to pay for it.
Most (if not all- I cant confirm they all do) states have laws that forbid charter schools from denying a student access to their programs. The only exceptions are if the amount of students exceeds the amount people the program can handle. This idea that they're a walled garden while also using taxpayer money is false. If a parent/guardian submits an application for a student within the proper filing windows, they will be accepted.
"Either have a public education system or don't, but stop lying to parents about the benefits of a system that will probably not allow their children in, while at the same time forcing them to pay for it."
This simply doesnt happen.
Actually I had terrible grades lol. And I was accepted into a charter school. To be honest at the time I was a little miserable. There was much homework, unlike friends in public schools had. Punishments were harsh and just annoying. But there was also good. I got to go to school trips almost every Friday lol I been to broadway shows, many museums, other countries food restaurants, other states. And it really overall prepared me for life I think, compared to those in public schools, I think it worked out in my favor.
Dan Baker really? We just went to a charter school meet and greet, as others said you are so wrong. Most specialize in children with poor grades to help them improve. Charter schools allow us to home school with very little
Intervention. most parents don't want the responsibility of teaching their children like mine it was a time for escape...
Nearly every charter school uses a lottery system for entry as most states have laws against cherry picking students.
Dan Baker You have no clue what you are talking about. Charter schools do not pick students and aren't selective. What is happening is that teachers who do not perform are simply fired! They only take the best teachers! So students do wonderfully!
I’m going to a charter school now, the school is A rated from the state of Arizona.
Why shouldn't poor families benefit from the same good school districts rich families can simply move into?
I think it's not that "Oh you're poor you get less." It's: "We're paying so much in taxes (rich families), we deserve to send our kids to good schools." So they get more.
watchdealer11 free-market capitalism will decide the type of education in the future.
Because conservatives are so mad at unions in general that they would rather undermine public education for the purpose of playing politics. You're right, it would be so much easier to just fix the public schools that we already have, instead of forcing them to crumble when money is diverted to charter schools.
+Ohad_Klopman Fix them how? More funding? We've spent gross amounts of money per student with diminishing returns, other countries are far more cost-effective with better results. More standardized teaching? We've tried that with Common Core. Having read through some of the CC textbooks, it's embarrassingly bad. Fire the bad teachers and improve teaching quality? The unions won't let us.
Sure, conservatives do generally dislike the teaching unions because they are so politically active and overwhelming Leftist. (My wife's a teacher and I get an NEA magazine from them every couple months because we're forced to pay dues. They are extremely vocal about their political leanings.) But regardless, I don't see how you can avoid the fact that the unions have created a logjam to maintain a form of labor monopoly. Like with all unchallenged monopolies, quality dips, prices soar. Forget politics, until that logjam is broken, things won't improve.
Ohad Klopman why should we fund a system that teaches feminist propaganda and makes radical communists?
These colorful and music filled videos make the Prageru videos alot better. Im liking it
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went to a charter school for my last yr and a half of high school. Every student there loved it, these were all kids that were kicked out of public schools for not attending or for failing every subject. The whole school was about 150 students, so every kid knew every kid. The city was trying to shut it down in 2002 for "funding" reasons (at that time it was the only charter school in the borough and called "the last chance school" if you got kicked out of there you were done w/ h.s. no other public school in the city would admit you.) The teachers and the students were friends, the whole school was a family of sorts, and when that decision came down, the students and every teacher alerted the news media that there was going to be a walk out. we got three news vans to come cover it with interviews with teachers and students that made it onto tv. Every student but 1 that was there my senior year graduated, the one that didn't was taken to a mental hospital to be treated for schizophrenia, he had gone off his meds a few months back and it got to the point where the school had to remove him at that time, he was 3 credits away from graduation, but did graduate in January, but he ended up committing suicide quite soon afterwards. ( I know all this about him because he was one of my 3 best friends at that school.) This "last chance school" for "the worst of the worst" kids changed so many of their lives for the better. Charter schools are amazing, they made a lot of kids love going to school.
Aww, poor wittle pubwic schools don't wike a wittle competition?
A friend of mine got new teacher of the year for 8th grade science but was back serving tables because some other teacher with more seniority came back from a 6 year vacation and took his job
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I'm currently a Junior at the new California School of the Arts. We're a charter school that started this school year and a sister school to the critically acclaimed Orange County School of the Arts. I honestly wish I went to a charter school way earlier in my years of education. Most public schools are riddled with lazy teachers, outdated teaching techniques, and a lack of unity between students. All the public schools I went to from K-10 were hostile learning environments and made me (and fellow students) not want to be at school. I got straight A's not because I pushed myself or meaningfully learned the content; I simply learned to regurgitate the masses of information that teachers fed us when it was time for the test. If public schooling ever wants to be taken seriously, radical changes need to be made.
Before i watch:
He is going to praise charter schools cause MUH COMMIE PUBLIC
Gary Slovenskov public schools suck
The video didn't once mention that.
Feel free to actually watch the content before you create an imaginary opposition.
Switched from public to charter and I love it!
Very Nice Job with those Animations !
In the uk we have private , grammar and comprehensive . Private is the same as yours , grammar are for those who pass their "11+" (exams at the age of 11) and comprehensive are for those who do not pass.
Ive been going to the same charter school here in Phoenix since 1st grade, and our school is one of the best in the city, state, and even the whole country. Nearly everyone I’ve met at my school is incredibly smart, and I’ve met kids going to public schools that know much less for the same classes. At our school, the standard level classes are the equivalent of Honors classes at other schools. Charter schools need to be national and I think every schools needs to go to one.
The video continue to compare charters to public schools. Charters are public schools. The comparison should be charter as opposed to traditional schools.
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Anyone who counted them? No? Just me? Well I can assure that they are exactly 7000...
I've Only Been To Public Schools!
First 200 years of the United States (1620-1820) America was nearly universally educated through homeschooling, so I wouldn't say "historically" education had been between public and private schools until 1991
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Teachers unions tried shouting down success academy a charter school in new york and the charter school won
Going to a charter school is like winning the lottery everybody wants in but most can't.
Also I commonly hear about charter schools having “smaller class sizes” mine at least (Steele Canyon High School) often had classes over 40 students each in 2015
This is the shortest 5-minute PragerU video I've ever seen.
All schools should be charter schools.
Yes. The RIGHT charter school is better. Way better. Im amazed at my kids school. Im jealous they werent around when I was in school. As a matter of fact I am learning things as I do homework with my kids. Lol
Screw public schools.