I am come from Hong Kong,many people in HK hate the protesters and the rioters,please don't believe them which said Hong Kong should be independent from China.They are full of lies
I saw this clip before seeing it again from Nate. I love the critical and logical questions from Shaun. Masterful interviewing techniques, without sounding bias.
This is a programme called “Hard-talk”, the main point of this programme is questioning intensively to the participant, in other to show the idea of the participant in other perspective. So that's why he enquire him harshly. I think there is no problem for that, in fact Mr. Yeung did a great job there.
The BBC host: You are asking for what you are never given by the British. Alvin Yeung😨: What am I doing Why am I here 港英时期港督都是英国排出的,英国人处处像主人,连阿三都因为跟英国人当奴才早,可以欺负香港人,香港人妥妥的三等公民-------------哪来的民主?港独真是贱货!!
BBC has made a frank presentation; and no matter how Alvin Yang insists and repeats his disagreement, he cannot change the fact that there are only 28 years left, and the riots and chaos only ruin Hong Kong!
3:46 (It = universal suffrage ) “You never have it up to the British.” “You were asking of China what you were never given by the British.” Thanks BBC.
So we will fight for it. Just someone didnt gave the right to us didnt mean we shouldnt have the right, we all believe that it should be a better system for Hong Kong and a way to lead China towards true democracy.
Tony Au No offense but I think the right you are seeking for is not that necessary today. The biggest problem is how to make Hongkong go up again. The major issue ahead is the monopoly of real estate, etc. Think about it, if you guys develop this city in peace without these bad riots for several years, u will become the group who can reach the level to get these rights and improve those social problems in Hongkong. And if, in 2047, democracy makes Hongkong stable and prosperous again, Chinese government will definitely not do much interruption to Hongkong. How could a country want to change the system of its best city so badly at a price of its great achievements. If u have done the best to make yourselves better and thus to make the city better rather than raised riots, no one would interfere your pursuits of your right
@Shelly Lloyd I am not quite sure whether you've seen how they fight for their freedoms by sacrificing someone else's rights. For example, attacking a number of police stations, committing arsons at some streets, damaging someone's parents' graves, beating a taxi driver, not letting the others go for work when they claimed for striking, and too many other thingies to count.
How does protesting make a place no longer unique? I don't know what you're implying but let me remind you that money or economics has nothing to do with uniqueness
After watching this, I went back to the basic law. Under article 45, the Chinese government did not promise universal suffrage. It is only an "aim" ...an aim is not a guarantee and does not need to be met. Even so, under article 158... the law is under the interpretation of the Chinese government (PRC) … therefore, what they are fighting for doesnt have much ground. All you can say is that protesters misinterpreted the law. Currently being in HK, what Mr Yeung is saying is false. They are not only asking for 2 things. The protest is asking for 5 demands.
@@andychenghk79 Yes, that's one of the most ridiculous parts. And it might be one of the solutions they showed how they 'protect' those young people and thrill them to do more crimes for them.
Is it really reasonable to demand the withdrawal of an extradition bill that can enable the convict that murdered his pregnant girlfriend and stuffed the body in a suitcase get trialed for his crimes? Or do hk people just embrace crimes and violence of all sorts (the riots)?
They obviously don't care about the victim or the crimes, they just want to advance their political agenda. The bill is just an excuse for them to do so.
and that is why fake news is so dangerous. i keep having to explain to friends & colleagues the origins of this extradition bill is a young lady being murdered in taiwan, and the boyfriend flying back to hk--which would require his extradition for taiwanese authorities to prosecute him & conduct a full investigation a majority of uninformed onlookers think this extradition bill is communist china trying to legalize extrajudicial kidnappings to harvest hong kong people's precious organs or to imprison/kill/silence political dissidents. when i ask them for a source they show me epoch times, voice of america, twitter, youtube, china uncensored, falun gong
I don't understand why they're pulling China into this though. This was originally a proposal made by the Hong Kong government to extradite criminals between Taiwan, Macao & China. Hong Kong has been known to be a safe haven for criminals for quite some time & the withdrawal of the extradition bill isn't helping. The guy that killed his girlfriend has yet to undergo trial for this case & the mom of the victim has demanded justice 😔
During the 70s, HongKong was much better of than their mainland cousins and had that superiority complex that still persist till this day which isn’t helpful to assimilate them back the mainland. As an oversea Chinese, it is really disgusting to see Alvin and his kind can accept the colonial rules which their ancestors rebel against. Learned to have self respect and dignity
"Those youngsters are no longer listening, not listening to Carrie Lam, and not listening to people like you either", woh...what an amazing criticism reflecting the real situation...well done, BBC!
Why should we listen to authority but not having our own thoughts? Listening only works when opinions comes into consensus and listeners agrees that there is actually a real and fair solution for the problems
cocky cookie you could have your own thoughts, without violating others’ freedom, threatening others’ lives. See what happened today in the airport. It’s crime. Do think a second the justice won’t come to crime committed by crowds.
Ren Lu As far as I know, only the Cultural Revolution is a conflict between young people and the masses, and China has already acknowledged that mistake. A All Chinese people know that it is wrong because the Chinese government does not intend to cover up history and call it the right one. As for the 5.4 Movement, it was because of the failure of China at the Paris Peace Conference and the signing of an unequal treaty with Japan. The 5.4 Movement will not attack civilians. Comparing the 5.4 Movement with the dogs that attack ordinary people in Hong Kong is simply an insult to everyone's IQ.
Ren Lu You said that the Chinese government attacked ordinary people in Hong Kong? Hahahaha Chinese government even don't send the People's Liberation Army. The Chinese government is far away because they know that some people will frame them violence against Hong kong people. Now there isn't a video on the whole network about the Chinese government's do something in Hong Kong. Are you dreaming here or are you thinking about it? The two people one is Chinese tourist and one reporter from the Global Times. They are only beated for one reason, that is, they are mainland Chinese and they are not in line with those protesters. If this is called the reason for their being beaten, then I am ashamed of Hong Kong’s so-called democracy. If they are beaten because they are spies (unfortunately there is no evidence, but they think) then this is the law enforcement department’s job, those protesters have no law enforcement power to deal with privately, and you support this kind of behavior, which is a shame for you. If you are Chinese, shame for you. If you are not Chinese, I suggest you shut up because you have no rights. And get out from my comments.
As a Chinese people who lived in the UK, I can't believe that BBC will give any truth about Hong Kong as they did in any other countrit, but this time this dude spoke the truth to the world also to the Hong Kong guy, : the right you asked British government never give you why China government need to do that? Dad abandon the Disappointing ex-Son.
Before watching the video, I thought the interview was going to be biased where the interviewer would agree with everything Mr. Yeung had to say. It's actually the opposite and I have so much respect for Sean. He did his research on the matter and he knows when facts are being manipulated. Well-done and thank you BBC for this!!
@@carr16k a lawyer with blind eyes. He cannot understand the rule of law otherwise he would understand any law should apply to everyone including the rioters and not just the police officers, and government whom he claimed abuse their powers. He should fight it in the right way, and if he doesn't believe the law anymore why is he still practising as a lawyer in Hong Kong?
buddy, wake up, not valid anymore about the unique position of HK as the international financial centre. HK is unique because it was designed so. if it is not functioning well per design, there will come plan B.
Funny when you were not in the frontline in the riot and understand all the thoughts of the young generation before you came into a conclusion that we are all daydreamers. And you definitely should truly pick a side by just listening to one dude rather than just came and interview millions of people.
cocky cookie The youngs are young. We may understand the tough life of the youngs, you can fight for you right. But you choose a wrong way, and the worst thing is worked with US. Do you really think that the westerns can and will help you? Do you really think one man one vote will help? Even what your fighting are the truths, do you think it will success? Too young too naive, don't be stupid, you may lost you life, you will regret for what you did eventually...
cocky cookie that dude understand the problem and situation that whether how many ppl on front line, the ending won’t change anyway cuz if China wants to end it, no one would help, not even us and uk.l
1、爲什麽bbc突然改變風格? ①. Boris要脫歐,缺的是夥伴,是市場,他需要找方法回復脫歐后的經濟,中國是不可或缺的貿易夥伴; ②. Boris更相信美國,脫歐需要美國的支持,目前trump對香港的評價也變成了: it's up to China to deal with Hong Kong 'riots',注意是riots!
The BBC host: You are asking for what you are never given by the British. Alvin Yeung😨: What am I doing Why am I here 港英时期港督都是英国排出的,英国人处处像主人,连阿三都因为跟英国人当奴才早,可以欺负香港人,香港人妥妥的三等公民-------------哪来的民主?港独真是贱货!!
omfg i love this, i've been telling my friends from hong kong for years that the freedoms and democracy they thought they had under british rule never existed, hell under british rule ethnically chinese people weren't allowed to hold positions of power be it corporate, political or anything, it was all british run/controlled, and now, look at who the leader of hong kong is, a CHINESE FEMALE LOCAL, something that would never have happened under british rule.. ffs
Let's say when British rule HK for 156 years. There is no Universal Suffrage. Everything is one man, one vote and rule the colony HK. British was smart to let a few elite to control HK public housing, HSBC control the financial industry of HK, Those elite has feed those gangster to help them control the society of HK. The British only interests is bring Revenue back to London. HK was just lucky during the 90s through early 21st century because HK was a stepping stone for foreign Companies to do business in China. That was why HK prosperity during that period. 楊岳橋 you only knows how to complaint, but has no solution to resolve the HK today's problem. I challenge you to come up with new ideas to improve HK economy.
Hong Kong is not without opportunities, but misses too many opportunities. In 1999, Tung Chee-hwa proposed the "Digital Cyberport" project to develop Internet technology. We stood at that node and overlooked the world. Google was just born in a private garage in California. It is far from being listed. The shadow of Facebook and Twitter is still unknown. The domestic Ali and Tencent are also small gangs of 10 people. Ma Yun is not a "dad", it is just a ugly young man. At that time, Hong Kong, software, technology, talent, capital, which aspect can not kill the mainland?As a result, the Internet was not done, and the Cyberport was turned into real estate development. Later, Dong proposed the "Dangang" plan. Zhang Yijing, who came out of TSMC, wanted to make chip manufacturing in Hong Kong. The people of Hong Kong resolutely opposed it by "speculating the land and speculating the price of the property" and engaged in a parade. As a result, Shanghai invited Zhang Yujing to take a SMIC in Shanghai. It is now the largest chip manufacturer in China and the fourth in the world. Later, Dong once again proposed the "Chinese Medicine Port" plan. Because Hong Kong has a deep scientific research system, as well as a large number of biological researchers, the most important is the quality inspection system recognized by the whole world. This is the combination of production, education and research. However, again because of the short-sightedness of capital, it has not been done. As a result, the Huada Gene appeared in Shenzhen across the river, and it has become a world-class genetic and biological research enterprise. From 1999 to 2005, if Hong Kong seizes these three opportunities, Hong Kong is the Asian Internet center, chip manufacturing center and biological research center.
this is a very ignorant question. The British never gave HK universal suffrage because China didn't allow it. This is unveiled in recent's The National Archives in UK. British freed every colonies' autonomy during 1st or 2nd world war because it was costly for them to fully monitor all colonies, but only HK was an exception. China's former premier, Mr. 周恩來 warned China would take over HK immediately if British was to give HK universal suffrage in the fear that China would be affected. This is the fact.
His generation protested in 2000s as students. New breed of students are still rioting in 2019. So of course. He doesn’t blame them. He has infiltrated the system and supporting the students.
主持人提問十分有料,充份顯示出主持人對香港政局的深入理解,佩服!
bb china哈哈
這位主持對香港的現況掌握比任何建制派及港府更準確
@@chuj8172 建制派應該找這種人來當議員,我不想看元秋梁妖了,給我看高智商的角力。
@@0LunarTears0 正常有腦的人大多不會埋建制堆,賺陰質錢,令子孫蒙羞
chu j 哪点看出,请教。
I can't believe I'm hearing the truth from BBC. Wow!
Tony Jorge But the Chinese communists are still doing wrong
me too !😂😂
Obie Chan bbc is fake news, fake news is not our friend, london people says that last year
I am come from Hong Kong,many people in HK hate the protesters and the rioters,please don't believe them which said Hong Kong should be
independent from China.They are full of lies
lmao
BBC 主持人比來賓還懂香港。這個外國人有作功課。給他一萬個讚。
他这些人是选择性失明,他这次被KO完全自找,媒体都不敢宣传,平时估计都通街了!
1997时,他可能还是小学生,那时香港不政治化,個個想移民不敢得罪鬼佬。他知道香港的事都是书籍和父母亲,老师告诉他们的,最多就是读下政治,法律。。老外一看就知这男孩子想眉外,反国家。。。像個小学鸡去见工,把香港人出卖。...香港人俾他羞耻死了
Tingyi Huang 岩聽就懂香港唔岩聽外國势力
BBC的这个主持人也是比较客观看待问题,应该给他一个赞!
BBC主持人问他那么多问题,杨岳桥这货讲来讲去都是那几句话,被反驳一次又一次都还是那几句,我都替他尴尬
I'm here because of Nathan Rich.
Me also
LarHisenBurg me too
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I saw this clip before seeing it again from Nate. I love the critical and logical questions from Shaun. Masterful interviewing techniques, without sounding bias.
我在加拿大和中国都有公司,我也已经45岁,香港年轻人,几点简要沟通:1、你们看看阿拉伯之春的后果,不说利比亚难民这些,就是埃及,民选上台-民选下台-军政府,现在远不如穆巴拉克。2、你们说富裕国家都是民主,但事实是绝大部分富裕以后才有民主,看看德国日本。3、不要觉得民主高大上,民主弊端非常非常多,一点不必中国维权体制少,你们看看乌克兰、阿根廷、巴西等等,选举就是笑话。即使欧美,现在都在反思民主弊端,这点我们在国外深有体会,就连特朗普也说BALTIMORE到处是老鼠、垃圾、罪犯。香港年轻人,切切不要为年轻付出惨重代价,我也是从64走过来,现在回看当年是无比无比错误的,人类需要一步步进步,理想主义害死人,大家都客观现实一些。自由民主不是普世价值观,真正普世价值观第一就是客观
@UC0ihX55_z6x2v-W8BDSon9w 不要口口声声中共,我在加拿大二十多年,我两边都有看到。为什么西方这几十年发展很慢?为什么法国黄背心,英国脱欧,德国极右翼等等,包括在加拿大,就我家附近大桥3KM,讨论30年,造价200亿RMB,天文数字。我真诚建议你们不要头脑发热简单思维,理想主义害死人。
@Chan Chan 没有人要你们必须接受中国模式,这完全不是中国想要的,如果想早就军队过来了,这里面有非常大沟通空间。但是前提是客观、理性。你们现在这样抗争方式不可取,一方面鸡蛋碰石头,最后还什么得不到,斗争要有技巧,有进有退,不能一根筋死到底。另外,你们斗争目标也意义不大,民主自由不是香港核心问题,这解决不了经济,台湾日本自由民主,经济停滞二十多年。所以客观理性一些,多看看世界,真的和你们想的不同。我第一次创业非常成功和传奇,第二次就觉得很简单,实际我又煎熬五年,不能这么简单思维。
@Chan Chan 其实每个人都在打压自由和人权,我们每个人都是打压者。包括很多公司经理,不允许公司有负面情绪和言论,都是一种打压。人类也是需要打压的,因为人类都是坏消息传千里,好消息不出门,所以美国、欧洲、澳洲也会限制FACEBOOK。真的,不要简单的想,每个人其实都是打压者。
@Chan Chan 你们真的放大政治自由重要性了。首先,你如果穿梭东西方,不会感觉自由有多大差别。第二,相比政治自由,经济自由对每个人其实更重要。第三,政治自由其实很危险,希特勒,包括特朗普竞选都采用民粹,你可以看看特朗普对黑人的攻击。任何事情都有两面性,以前共产党说没人平等利益,现在西方说每人平等权利,其实都是忽悠很危险。
@Chan Chan 到底群众眼睛是雪亮的?还是真理掌握在少数人手里?我也没有完全确定。但是数量多不是一定代表正确,所有人类都犯错误这非常非常普遍,包括二战德国,所有人都同意侵略和残杀犹太人。香港核心还是经济问题,这需要非常大功夫解决,但是假如走上民主多党制,那肯定香港就彻底完了。民主这东西需要很坚实经济实力和很高民众素质,如果香港民主多党,肯定每天议会吵架什么事也做不了。即使加拿大,你可以查一下,60%多对议会非常不满意,效率太低太低了,每天看演戏。
大型认爹现场失败
bin lv 废青还是不会玩政治。能做的不能说,能说的不能做。香港没有任何武力来抗衡,连经济地位也只是因为是中国的门户。人家进门,你不让进,中国再开一道门不就得了。香港青年比我们20岁的大陆青年还低智商低情商,唯一有的就是莫名其妙的骄傲,导致连思考都不会了。
@@Ryan-nm6te 毕竟人家都觉得自己是唯一的金融中心了
BlackWoof 中国刚刚开放零限制外资入市,就是准备把香港踢掉。胳膊拧不过大腿,共产党得民心,怎么弄香港其余的省都是举双手同意。现在不动武,只是想给大家看一个失败的民主自由的例子。民主自由发展到后面,也是小圈子斗法,全体民主自由,根本是天方夜谭。中国是直白的,欧美是诱惑的,但是效率还是中国高。政治本身是去平民化的,大部分平民除了吃喝玩乐还懂什么?不论中国还是欧美。
@@Ryan-nm6te 秀儿坐下.
BlackWoof 说得不好听的,要是香港人真有幸爬到主席的位置,他才明白共产党的特色社会主义是什么。一个封建时代的帝王都想拥有的:为民得民心,造福百姓,大力压制中间官员,高压反贪反腐,只要人民爱戴他,这个帝王什么都干。帝制失败于通信的精度与速度,可是现在精度与速度都有。共产党内部政治讨论后的结果直接关系到共产党后续工作,做差了要重做,不存在这个党派没做好丢给下一个党派。减少了海量资源浪费。中国特色社会主义说得白话一点,就是:为了大同世界和人民富裕,什么东西都学,不论社会主义还是资本主义。共产党最高领导甚至不需要金钱,绝对的权力对金钱的需求几乎没有,因为绝对的权力本身就是无价的。最高领导人就会超脱一个棋子的得失,而顾全大局。千古帝王,悠悠。看看川普,台湾整天鸡飞狗跳的。(当然唯一没有的权力是:继承人制度,不然中国就真是朝鲜了)
BBC难得有这么中立观点的新闻,主持人有水准
这个难得用得特别好
川普不是说香港废青算是暴动了吗,英国得跟上节奏赶紧跟这些泛民废青撇清关系
林则徐 大陸新聞有中立觀點嗎,哈哈😄
@@Philly_hk CCTV报道外国事件最中立
@Zerg s CCTV在某些事情上报道的虽然偏红,但是也还好啦,没有西方媒体那么夸张
BBC doing actual journalism? am I dreaming? Bravo BBC.
This is not the BBC I knew before.
It's a balancing act!
You will be very surprised..
Remember it's rubbish sorry British.
This is a programme called “Hard-talk”, the main point of this programme is questioning intensively to the participant, in other to show the idea of the participant in other perspective. So that's why he enquire him harshly. I think there is no problem for that, in fact Mr. Yeung did a great job there.
@@austinchan841 Imagine explaining to wumao army
这位主持人算是新闻主持最高水平了…应该给发一个奖。
这个主持人居然说“你们在问中国要一箱项连英国人都从未赋予给你们的权利”OMG😂😂😂😂
但主持人無疑是岔開重點吧,那個權力是中國自己承諾的,當然自己在毀約
還有用英國比較中國,會不會覺得有點有趣,即使當初英國人沒有賦予普選權利但他們有像中國一樣只管搞自己中國其他城市,而破壞香港嗎?貌似沒有吧,他們委派了一個個充滿政治智慧的人搞好香港,中國呢?委任一個個所謂港人的特首,結果是一點政治智慧都沒有,也不被民間認受,得出的結果是什麼?你應該很清楚吧
空降下來的富二代來管你們,在上頭只會奉承,實際在剝削你們,不聽你們的苦,只會一次次容忍社會制度被特權人士剝削
@@mandyc0228 有没有关于承诺的链接或者材料?我在翻阅基本法里只提到了,“港人治港,高度自治”,没有看到关于立法会与行政长官双普选的承诺?请不吝告知
@@fsz9048 《中華人民共和國香港特別行政區基本法》關於普選的條文:
第45條:香港特別行政區行政長官在當地通過選舉或協商產生,由中央人民政府任命。
行政長官的產生辦法根據香港特別行政區的實際情況和循序漸進的原則而規定,最終達至由一個有廣泛代表性的提名委員會按民主程序提名後普選產生的目標。
行政長官產生的具體辦法由附件一《香港特別行政區行政長官的產生辦法》規定。
第68條:香港特別行政區立法會由選舉產生。
立法會的產生辦法根據香港特別行政區的實際情況和循序漸進的原則而規定,最終達至全部議員由普選產生的目標。
立法會產生的具體辦法和法案、議案的表決程序由附件二《香港特別行政區立法會的產生辦法和表決程序》規定。
附件1:第7條:2007年以後各任行政長官的產生辦法如需修改,須經立法會全體議員三分之二多數通過,行政長官同意,並報全國人民代表大會常務委員會批准。
附件2:第3條:2007年以後立法會的產生辦法和表決程序2007年以後香港特別行政區立法會的產生辦法和法案、議案的表決程序,如需對本附件的規定進行修改,須經立法會全體議員三分之二多數通過,行政長官同意,並報全國人民代表大會常務委員會備案。
@@メウディ 行政长官不还是要有提名委员会吗
臧风顺 提不提,不是是否双普选的基础
The BBC interviewer is very knowledgable.
Come here from Nathan Rich!!!
me too
Yup
Me also
same
same here
you are asking of china what you were never given by the british
the guy just smiles
well, one should expect one's own "mother country" to be more generous than a mere colonizer
@@bravery2047 perhaps its tough love
Trust the motherland
@@bravery2047 Obviously this son was over spoiled by his mother. Now his mother will teach him a lesson.
@@tonywong3484 or this is an abusive mother who has a choke hold on the child.
Great point
Finally, BBC earns back some respect.
This is the best BBC interview i have seen in years..
I was thinking watching a wrong channel, it's quite not like those previous BBC interviews, perhaps future new PM is working on it lol!!
是啊奇怪呢。。
@Xu Chen
I understand you are a 50 cents.
@Xu Chen
50 cents detected.
@@tesayoung9229 I did not know Singapore government paid me for commenting. Anyway, I heard a dog barking twice early. Owner please leashed him.
O.M.G! what happened to BBC? that is one of the best interviews!!! finally, good job BBC!
sob
@@cy6749 why are u calling yourself that??? it will hurt your mom's feeling!
bbc(x)
bbChina(√)
bbc主持人讓楊岳橋露出了尷尬又不失醜惡的笑容
Yan Hong 自信滿滿咁去接受BBC採訪,點知啲問題一個刁鑽過一個,楊岳橋好快俾佢問到口啞啞,淨係識得不斷重複前面幾個point,冇啲準備
@@ivanwong1373 哈哈,逼得他不断地回避问题,偷换概念
英国主持人以主人身份提问奴才,奴才巧妙回答,但是力不从心,主人奸诈地笑了。
keny pu 我觉得是 但是这不代表全部人 譬如日本政府对侵华历史的否认 而大部分的当代日本人也不承认 但是有很少部分的那个年代的人会选择承认
I am very impressed by the interviewer, this is what journalism should be
这是我第一次给BBC点赞,西方媒体来个了急弯,我有点不适应。对主持人的学识表示赞赏。
馬也 因为英国经历过太多类似的游行暴动,还有独立运动,BBC参与的深度广度更是显而易见的,他们可以理解这种行为有多幼稚,内心深处对此也是很排斥的,更重要的是,他们不能鼓励国内的年轻人这样做。他们并没有偏向中国,只是深受其害。
因为香港经济影响了英国的经济 所以bbc才改变了立场 不信你可以看看1个月之前的报道
The BBC host: You are asking for what you are never given by the British.
Alvin Yeung😨: What am I doing Why am I here 港英时期港督都是英国排出的,英国人处处像主人,连阿三都因为跟英国人当奴才早,可以欺负香港人,香港人妥妥的三等公民-------------哪来的民主?港独真是贱货!!
其实香港回归期间,英国其实不想做那么多的有害的事情的。但是背后代表的是北约的意志。不得不做。
@@yvonnezz6403 滑稽
Alvin is changing subjects all the time he rarely answers the questions asked.
MountainDerp Chwn
Trust me, he wants to, yet he becomes so powerless and fragile when it comes to something called REASON and LOGIC.
其实说白了,定位发生错误了。香港还是原来的香港,但大陆已经不是原来的大陆了
haojie tu 有水平
香港也不是原来的香港了
@@jingjinglu6965 当年逃到香港的那群大陆文化经济人才死后,香港就被打回原型了。。。金庸走了,黄霑早走了。。。
@@一成首付叫了个鸡还有一个,最反共的一个人没死,倪匡。
诚如你所言
今次BBC少有政治中立 balance 到兩邊 無偏向任何一個人發言 非常專業
Kayan lee 这个香港议员说基本法有普选是扯谎。
xiao yafu 你先看看基本法45和68條再來說說
@@conan870 “第四十五條
香港特別行政區行政長官在當地通過選舉或協商產生,由中央人民政府任命。
行政長官的產生辦法根據香港特別行政區的實際情況和循序漸進的原則而規定,最終達至由一個有廣泛代表性的提名委員會按民主程序提名後普選產生的目標。
行政長官產生的具體辦法由附件一《香港特別行政區行政長官的產生辦法》規定。”
没有这个议员嘴巴里说的那种普选?17年给你“循序渐进”的普选你不要,那就“按实际情况”不给了。
@@danielwang5298這沒有港人治港啊
@@dawnasdfghjk 什么意思?
I almost give up on watching BBC news until this! Well done Sean!
thyon ming fee gray me too
same
BBC has made a frank presentation; and no matter how Alvin Yang insists and repeats his disagreement, he cannot change the fact that there are only 28 years left, and the riots and chaos only ruin Hong Kong!
3:46 (It = universal suffrage )
“You never have it up to the British.” “You were asking of China what you were never given by the British.”
Thanks BBC.
So we will fight for it. Just someone didnt gave the right to us didnt mean we shouldnt have the right, we all believe that it should be a better system for Hong Kong and a way to lead China towards true democracy.
Tony Au No offense but I think the right you are seeking for is not that necessary today. The biggest problem is how to make Hongkong go up again. The major issue ahead is the monopoly of real estate, etc. Think about it, if you guys develop this city in peace without these bad riots for several years, u will become the group who can reach the level to get these rights and improve those social problems in Hongkong. And if, in 2047, democracy makes Hongkong stable and prosperous again, Chinese government will definitely not do much interruption to Hongkong. How could a country want to change the system of its best city so badly at a price of its great achievements. If u have done the best to make yourselves better and thus to make the city better rather than raised riots, no one would interfere your pursuits of your right
Vice K do agree!
@@tjz5032 fuck ur democracy. u want go democracy then leave.... go to America
@@vicek1263 u have plenty of idiots now in hk.... forgive them..... thirsty for democracy but they have never lived in western countries..
看了这个视频,我对BBC的印象变了,里面真的有大师
zhenqiang ruan 为了以后说谎打基础
欧陆搅屎棍,摸鱼数百年,大不列颠名不虚传好吗
bbc不是个好东西,别想的太美好
每個國家、地方都有正直、無私的人,還有卑鄙、自私的人。
@Someone Special Yea, you go ahead
This is the first time I agree with the BBC's view. THANKS!!
Dantee Choi 么么哒😘😘😘😘
wow
BBC给的这个推送,莫名的喜欢,第一次给BBC一个👍,希望还有下次!
you forgot agreed 任人上那一次 ?
@Shelly Lloyd I am not quite sure whether you've seen how they fight for their freedoms by sacrificing someone else's rights. For example, attacking a number of police stations, committing arsons at some streets, damaging someone's parents' graves, beating a taxi driver, not letting the others go for work when they claimed for striking, and too many other thingies to count.
“Hongkong is a unique place?” Lol not anymore after this shitshow
How does protesting make a place no longer unique? I don't know what you're implying but let me remind you that money or economics has nothing to do with uniqueness
Protesting is exactly what makes HK so unique in China.
Looks like the national security laws and article 23 are even worst than the rioters. 😂
After watching this, I went back to the basic law. Under article 45, the Chinese government did not promise universal suffrage. It is only an "aim" ...an aim is not a guarantee and does not need to be met.
Even so, under article 158... the law is under the interpretation of the Chinese government (PRC) … therefore, what they are fighting for doesnt have much ground. All you can say is that protesters misinterpreted the law.
Currently being in HK, what Mr Yeung is saying is false. They are not only asking for 2 things. The protest is asking for 5 demands.
And they are asking to release people who committed a crime...
@@andychenghk79 Yes, that's one of the most ridiculous parts. And it might be one of the solutions they showed how they 'protect' those young people and thrill them to do more crimes for them.
@@maggiewong1173 not really.. they are just too afraid to have no vote from youngsters, so have to follow those riots' wishes
Are you deaf ? He did mention the protestors requesting 5 demands lol
@@andychenghk79 Hong kong might be the paradise of crime in the future.
BBC难得有这种比较中立的辩论环节诶。还是挺不错的。
以前都是无视现实的抹黑,现在就是把自身利益和香港价值摊开讲了而已,毕竟你没价值不可能一直任你胡乱发疯
对冲嘛
一点也不中立!兄弟。就差直接说,要闹你就闹独立呗!另外,你们闹腾别把英国牵扯上,我们还要跟中国做生意呢!你们自己照顾自己吧!
打脸这个港翔的是英国人撇关系撇的干脆直接,你们打着要中共不给你们民主的旗号,要英国帮你们,我们当年都没给你们民主,为什么要信你的这个鬼理由来帮你,要有人牺牲的!还是让你们那些年轻人来冲吧!
開頭已經有目的性叫人收手
@@drj9705 還在提獨立? 獨立只是內地為了統戰才搬出來的借口,你有看清楚香港人是否都想獨立?是政府把極小數人的意願放大,說成香港的示威是為港獨,方便打極一切的民間聲音,香港這兩個月來的問題根本跟港獨完全無關
主持人一針見血, 句句到肉.
這的確是一場高水平對話! (主持人)
同意,但梁天琦既政治主張會更適合解答主持人
BBC的問題非常尖銳,但梁議員在問題的回答上顯得非常幼稚無力,且很多觀點都站不住腳,香港還是那個香港,但大陸真的不是以前那個大陸了,這是事實,但很多香港人就受不了這個事實!
@@愛秋天-v4v 梁天琦係新東普選辯論 以強而有力既言論展現自己既立場,光復香港 時代革命 亦係佢口號, 所以咁多年輕人撐佢,絕對唔係 回答站不住腳既證據
Is it really reasonable to demand the withdrawal of an extradition bill that can enable the convict that murdered his pregnant girlfriend and stuffed the body in a suitcase get trialed for his crimes? Or do hk people just embrace crimes and violence of all sorts (the riots)?
They obviously don't care about the victim or the crimes, they just want to advance their political agenda. The bill is just an excuse for them to do so.
probably because of the loads of white collar crimes being made punishable
and that is why fake news is so dangerous. i keep having to explain to friends & colleagues the origins of this extradition bill is a young lady being murdered in taiwan, and the boyfriend flying back to hk--which would require his extradition for taiwanese authorities to prosecute him & conduct a full investigation
a majority of uninformed onlookers think this extradition bill is communist china trying to legalize extrajudicial kidnappings to harvest hong kong people's precious organs or to imprison/kill/silence political dissidents. when i ask them for a source they show me epoch times, voice of america, twitter, youtube, china uncensored, falun gong
I don't understand why they're pulling China into this though. This was originally a proposal made by the Hong Kong government to extradite criminals between Taiwan, Macao & China. Hong Kong has been known to be a safe haven for criminals for quite some time & the withdrawal of the extradition bill isn't helping. The guy that killed his girlfriend has yet to undergo trial for this case & the mom of the victim has demanded justice 😔
Cheesypuffs there is a good amount of paranoia involved
杨岳桥心里一定在骂这老头到底是不是UK人!
英国人在香港有大量的利益,香港再这么乱下去英国人后面20年也不用吸血了,就是一条死蛇,而且主持人最后也说得很明白,英国脱欧之后迫切的需要找到新的合作伙伴,而中国大陆是他们最好的选择,所以在这个时候拿枪指着港灿这群傻屌也很正常,另外看外交部的发言从来都没怼过英国一句,目标直指美国CIA在香港搞事情,所以可能在英国人面前这个局面也不是他们想要的。
@@sunmansammy 明白人
@@jakinsu8618 haha , I think bbc news just want to keep their stance neutral.I have seen many brit support hongkongers
煮得一手好面 貌似英国政客唯一一次官方支持香港暴动也就是大选前亨特为了拉选票那一次吧。 结果还没选上。 民间的声音肯定被被各种西方媒体带跑偏了,但是英国官方还算克制。你的逻辑很通顺。 就算是搞事的美国,不管下面人怎么叫嚣,他们头顶那个人已经把事件定义成暴动了。 西方国家跟中国打了几十年交道了。知道中国的底线在哪里。贸易上占中国点便宜那是家常便饭,但是港台问题是不敢轻易碰的。特朗普刚上任的时候说要把台湾问题当成是跟中国大陆谈判的筹码,结果中央根本都不理他。这次香港问题,他就老实多了。
@@riverxie 可以看看新版《黄智贤夜问》,就是被蔡省长停播以后的网络新版。里面多次提到,这次幺蛾子,蔡省长出钱出力的最多
這個主持人倒是十分中立,難得
“ 行政長官的產生辦法根據香港特別行政區的實際情況和循序漸進的原則而規定,最終達至由一個有廣泛代表性的提名委員會按民主程序提名後普選產生的目標”
写的一清二楚,由提名委员会提名后普选产生。偏偏不说这《基本法》第45条
尤其是當他說英國從來沒有給過香港人民主選舉時,楊的回應顯得結結巴巴了
啱聽就中立,唔啱聽就屌
问得很尖锐,显示主持人了解情况比较透彻;而答的差一些,可能不想说透,还是本身想得不到位?
他當然不會回答對自己不利的發言
这是我第一次给BBC点赞👍
我也是
+1
2019年完美演活漢奸
估计是过火了,英国政府为了表示自己的态度和立场,叫bbc破天荒的发了个相对之前影片友好一点的
(真正的幕后黑手永远是美国,一开始我就觉得英国没这个实力,台湾有可能参与)
本来看到BBC要撤的,差点错过😂
俺也一样
Talking like a spoiled baby. All this guy knows is the “youngsters” are amazing 😂
That's his main group of supporters. He gotta lick their boots.
During the 70s, HongKong was much better of than their mainland cousins and had that superiority complex
that still persist till this day which isn’t helpful to assimilate them back the mainland.
As an oversea Chinese, it is really disgusting to see Alvin and his kind can accept the colonial rules
which their ancestors rebel against.
Learned to have self respect and dignity
Only the youngsters would buy his lies
Yea the way he said but it was Beijing’s promise. like but mommy, you said it was ok. Lol Jus kidding
看不懂
Singapore & Shanghai: thank you hk!!
👍👍👍👍
and shenzhen as well
And HAINAN
And Bangkok and Dubai
I am from Shanghai, so Hong kong, thanks a lot for your participation in making Shanghai better
主持人提到了英国脱欧,美国川普的态度,所以核心意思是,如果中国中央政府决定出手香港,没有任何国家敢出面干预
中国内政问题,谁敢干预?就建立香港直辖市就行了。
想干预先摸摸自己口袋里的银子再说话
@@secbingo8290 太客气了,直接并入广东省里。还一国两制?给他们机会没把握啊
chao zhang 我们广东不想要那些废青
我也讚頌一下主持人,他說的才是人話
连BBC主持人都知道编不下去,稍微问正常问题,那家伙满脸尴尬 哈哈哈
英国人说的很明确了,英国脱欧了,需要新的朋友,中国明显是最大的一个大腿;特朗普那张大嘴也都不敢对中国内政说三道四(前几天被采访时他说了,这是中国内政,北京会自己处理好的)。一个是十三亿人的巨大市场,一个是弹丸之地几百万人所谓的“权利”,十岁的小孩子都会做这道选择题。只有香港废青甘愿当政治的炮灰
希望內地的同胞們,念過書的,去看看什麼是路西法效應。世界上現是最強大/已發展的過家都是民主國家,獨裁國家如北韓,飢餓指數是最高的。沒錯,中國的發展近年很快,我也同意以前中國是不應該有民主的,但是現在,已經到了一個適合發展民主的階段,民主會是一個國家最終強大的基礎,他防止了一權獨大,權力令人腐化。既得利益者只會繼續令用獨裁得更大的利益,看看幾千年中國合久必分,正反映了獨裁的壞處。雖然民主會令某止政策上拖慢,但亦是重大保險防止國家被小部分人為了利益而破壞。你們可以不去爭取,但別評論香港人在做對的事。你試想想,如果是民主國家,這場示威早就完結,政府早就妥協。正就反映了沒有民主的最壞處,你可以不相信,但總有一天,如果沒有民主中國也會面對,因為既得利益者永遠只佔少數。
@@老張說天下 荷兰,西班牙,英国,美国,中国, 世界强国顺序,其中真正民主有几个? 民主政权出现才几年? 中共党员9000万, 14亿人口,意味着14个中就有一个是党员, 其中绝大部分还得是高中和大学优秀学子才可以入党. 民主是好东西,可是谁定义民主就必须是全民一人一票? 经过筛选 精英的一人一票就不是民主了吗? 现在西方民主彻底沦落为民粹, 上台政治人物都是 选秀明星, 能拉票数的政治明星, 可是他们真的懂得治理国家吗? 病人生病了要找专业的经验丰富的大夫,而不是在广场上投票选出一个人 这是亚里士多德说的
@@老張說天下 你知不知道我们选村长是村民直选的,然后就是你一百我两百这么选出来的。。我不相信就中国开放民主后会更好,起码现在
好掛住楊岳橋議員 🙇🏼♀️🙇🏼♀️天佑義人🙏🏻🙏🏻
有什么好掛呢,人家正在渡过精彩人生,担心一自己更重要,
这个视频我理解的意思是,英国政府对中国政府说:我不是,我没有,他们乱说。
Yang: HongKong is a unique place to China, we are the only international financial centre in China.
China: Okay...I will build ten more please...
2333333
Obviously after this so-called protest, Hongkong will lose his so-called international position forever.
SR Media Yup, 10 more failed cities!
No Name you mad that we can build cities while most of western cities are falling apart
@@杨过-z4z Yes, very unique. All of them are destroyers. It depends this point, Shanghai of course cannot instead of you.
Very good interviewer, unbiased, sharp and knowledgeable. A rare sight from the BBC.
Rare sight?
@@winnxithepoo bbc used to bais to china
I gave up bbc. But this will change my mind (maybe). Good interview. Knife knife to the skin.
@@Malaysia-v2x they do this interview is not without a cause
@@brityo7176 agree
楊岳橋與民建聯周浩鼎多次交手,便可以看出, 楊岳橋是一位優秀的政治人材, 👍👍
"Those youngsters are no longer listening, not listening to Carrie Lam, and not listening to people like you either", woh...what an amazing criticism reflecting the real situation...well done, BBC!
Why should we listen to authority but not having our own thoughts? Listening only works when opinions comes into consensus and listeners agrees that there is actually a real and fair solution for the problems
cocky cookie you could have your own thoughts, without violating others’ freedom, threatening others’ lives. See what happened today in the airport. It’s crime. Do think a second the justice won’t come to crime committed by crowds.
香港需要更多這類專業,有做功課,有邏輯及有技術提問的記者。
可是被打脸打的好痛,英国人当面说这个诉求连英国都没曾给过香港,只能表现出尴尬又不是礼貌的微笑了
首先记者的屁股不能是歪的,不过这种真正的记者恐怕全世界也没有几个人
Hong Kong is a joke
英国爸爸不爱干儿子了么?
@@王特-e5t 人地講得好清楚,普選係基本法比香港人一個莊嚴承諾,完全無提及過中英聯合聲明
Of course you won’t blame young people because you need to use them to make them a cannon for your political career.
good!
Well said! 可惜看不清形势的在拼命 这种穿着西装上英文节目的早就知道独立无门 拿年轻人当子弹而已
Ren Lu As far as I know, only the Cultural Revolution is a conflict between young people and the masses, and China has already acknowledged that mistake. A All Chinese people know that it is wrong because the Chinese government does not intend to cover up history and call it the right one. As for the 5.4 Movement, it was because of the failure of China at the Paris Peace Conference and the signing of an unequal treaty with Japan. The 5.4 Movement will not attack civilians. Comparing the 5.4 Movement with the dogs that attack ordinary people in Hong Kong is simply an insult to everyone's IQ.
Ren Lu You said that the Chinese government attacked ordinary people in Hong Kong? Hahahaha Chinese government even don't send the People's Liberation Army. The Chinese government is far away because they know that some people will frame them violence against Hong kong people. Now there isn't a video on the whole network about the Chinese government's do something in Hong Kong. Are you dreaming here or are you thinking about it? The two people one is Chinese tourist and one reporter from the Global Times. They are only beated for one reason, that is, they are mainland Chinese and they are not in line with those protesters. If this is called the reason for their being beaten, then I am ashamed of Hong Kong’s so-called democracy. If they are beaten because they are spies (unfortunately there is no evidence, but they think) then this is the law enforcement department’s job, those protesters have no law enforcement power to deal with privately, and you support this kind of behavior, which is a shame for you. If you are Chinese, shame for you. If you are not Chinese, I suggest you shut up because you have no rights. And get out from my comments.
you are right.
基本法23條不被通過卻要求實現雙普選,真扯
崔曉浚 看45条,只有这里提到了普选
Stephen The Goat 我的意思是真想要普选先搞好爱国主义教育,一边嚷嚷着要普选,一边却不通过反国家分裂的法律,国家怎么可能给这个权利呢?同时45条里提到的普选是有前提的,权利与义务是对等的,一味只要权利却不承担义务本身就是没法实现的事情
崔曉浚 我的意思是根本没提到“承诺普选”
崔曉浚 你说的很对,大赞👍🏻
你来我往,这次bbc中文的视频意外的有营养
感觉英国是想撇清关系了哈哈
@@何ホウ志逸シイ 這不奇怪,英國自己內部都出了嚴重問題,哪有心情理香港事呢?...
尤其是現在連首相也換人了,處事作風應該也會隨之轉變😊
特朗普定义这次事件为骚乱,BBC(hina)的风口也变了,这群香港的傻子到底被谁利用心里应该有点B数了,或者他们甘愿自己被利用。
ZORAN LEE 你的中央不是拒絕外國插手嗎
@@zoranlee2557 現在主要是看英政府立場吧,如果英內閣在對港態度方面有所變化,或多或少都有可信性的...但侵普的說話就不信也罷了
狂人變化不定,他說和習帝永遠都是好朋友,你也會信?😀
The host is very professional, he has an independant stand.
This interview is probably the first time I agree with BBC news on this issue.
Same here
@@blesseuan finally someone is aking the damn right question
Me too
Me, too.
As a Chinese people who lived in the UK, I can't believe that BBC will give any truth about Hong Kong as they did in any other countrit, but this time this dude spoke the truth to the world also to the Hong Kong guy, : the right you asked British government never give you why China government need to do that? Dad abandon the Disappointing ex-Son.
Mr. Yeung is a repeating machine lmao
a dreamer
Before watching the video, I thought the interview was going to be biased where the interviewer would agree with everything Mr. Yeung had to say. It's actually the opposite and I have so much respect for Sean. He did his research on the matter and he knows when facts are being manipulated. Well-done and thank you BBC for this!!
BBC在中国和黄丝之间,选了一个不那么棘手的而已。不必感恩戴德。
BBC記者問題好尖銳而且思路非常清晰,淨係識做錄音機既香港記者要學下了
KEI LI 香港記者同BBC記者層次差太多BBC記者是提問 香港黃記是審問,而且毫無深度,高下立見
你是说100米冠军的记者?
答非所問並非辯論,只會喊口號的民主代表,能說點實際的談判思路和措施嗎
江泽民早就教育过香港记者了,没用的
后面的观点很客观,中国越来越强大,国家之间利益至上,不可能和中共政府闹翻的
我覺得成立獨立調查委員會可以,不光調查政府警察,調查你們也是非常有必要的。
独立调查委员会是架空香港法律系统的阴谋。只要选出来的人不是泛民的人 他们就会一直闹下去。这帮政棍说白了就是坏
先把那几个涉嫌经济犯罪的媒体大佬调查清楚才是最真。
如果成立独立调查委员会,一定要由中国中央政府指定人选,成员全部由中央派出。
@@莱胆 你了解清楚個乎委員會目的同有咩成員條件先講啦....無知
@yehoutube 無所謂, 親政府都抓就可以
Alvin is the most shameful lawyer I have seen from HK.
He is a lawyer? Just wow........
@@carr16k a lawyer with blind eyes. He cannot understand the rule of law otherwise he would understand any law should apply to everyone including the rioters and not just the police officers, and government whom he claimed abuse their powers. He should fight it in the right way, and if he doesn't believe the law anymore why is he still practising as a lawyer in Hong Kong?
主持人很有水平,轻描淡写地指出了问题的关节所在!
nicole liu 最后他又说香港很牛逼,不可取代,中共不会放弃香港,BBC 应该追一句深圳已经超过香港了,上海才是真正的金融中心。
ying chen 天真
ying chen 这句话放在回归前还有说服力,现在说就是笑话了!未来的香港连中国的一线城市都算不上!
ying chen 就香港關係法規定的獨立關稅區等把香港區別於大陸的政策,十萬個深圳都抵不到一個香港,不要想當然。
nicole liu 你可以等深圳可以發美元債再來說這句話。
The question is why don't u ask for democracy before 1997 under Uk
*smile*
smile
They were just slaves before 1997.
cuz they know clearly that slaves don't deserve democracy.
@@MMFZF nice!!!
主持人说出了真相:香港孤立无援!
Yea , and most of the already know that and we are fighting on our own
@@cockycookie9460 Fighting for what? for Money?
王立人 heard that they are getting paid daily. The guy who threw the Chinese flag got paid more.
@@shinagenbu679 yea heard, rumour everywhere. Wise people will judge with real evidence while dumb will let rumour judge.
@@王立人-s1l are you gonna pay us? How much are you gonna pay for 2 millions of people out there? Come save us and be our sugar daddy bro
buddy, wake up, not valid anymore about the unique position of HK as the international financial centre. HK is unique because it was designed so. if it is not functioning well per design, there will come plan B.
Wake up, dude!!! It is obvious that England Daddy has rejected you all HK daydreamers!
HK mob was like “ no way! Please be my dad! Or I will be your dog!” 🙈
Funny when you were not in the frontline in the riot and understand all the thoughts of the young generation before you came into a conclusion that we are all daydreamers. And you definitely should truly pick a side by just listening to one dude rather than just came and interview millions of people.
cocky cookie The youngs are young. We may understand the tough life of the youngs, you can fight for you right. But you choose a wrong way, and the worst thing is worked with US. Do you really think that the westerns can and will help you? Do you really think one man one vote will help? Even what your fighting are the truths, do you think it will success? Too young too naive, don't be stupid, you may lost you life, you will regret for what you did eventually...
cocky cookie that dude understand the problem and situation that whether how many ppl on front line, the ending won’t change anyway cuz if China wants to end it, no one would help, not even us and uk.l
@@cockycookie9460 had you interviewed all of the people who live in Hongkong and Mailand China? If you are not then why we need to do that?
1、爲什麽bbc突然改變風格?
①. Boris要脫歐,缺的是夥伴,是市場,他需要找方法回復脫歐后的經濟,中國是不可或缺的貿易夥伴;
②. Boris更相信美國,脫歐需要美國的支持,目前trump對香港的評價也變成了: it's up to China to deal with Hong Kong 'riots',注意是riots!
True
這才是關鍵. 各自都是為了自己的利益!
谁看得起狗呢?
为了自己国家的利益,杀一只自己的狗,有何不可?
可惜不谙世事的后生仔们以为拥有了民主就掌握了真理,实际上看不清自身看不清现实。抛头颅洒热血感动自己,吃里扒外沦为棋子
I have to say. Best BBC news ever.
bbc just the Fake news.
@@Gaswac but still better than CCTV
good job…
@@qiuxia9561 good job
Refreshing! The interviewer is knowledgable and logical, full respects!
一个本应该对基本法和香港政局十分了解的律师却被一个不能称之为香港问题专家的媒体人给ko了
你覺得這是Ko?
文 文
被问得一愣一愣,词不达意,翻来覆去混淆视听的小儿科式回答,这不是ko?
@@文文-y8h4k 教科书般的KO。。。没有正面回答任何一个关键问题。。不过我能理解,确实没有能力
這個衣冠楚楚的港仔好日子過膩了,不要兩制,那麼請中國軍隊過去掃掃改成一制,跟內地一個樣不是更單純嗎???
@@landflame 我們的價值觀落差真大
楊有種見岳父的緊張,他是有多期望得到養父的認同。回頭看看他面對港府的表現,活生生的好似那些殖民時候的大班。
奴性基因
是嗎?感覺是看到主子
類似的情況發生過在鄭經翰,梁家傑身上
香港人确实是缺乏主权意识,殖民地时期的他们既自卑又骄傲,看看港产片就知,好多专怼洋人的片段,但又有好多专贬大陆人的片段,老实说大陆很多人没意识到一百年的殖民对香港人有多深的改造。但有一样没变的,他们身上的缺点还是和中国人一样的,那种为自身利益不惜绑架和伤害旁人的恶劣手段,但他们缺乏中国人身上团结的民族主义精神。
看见主子了,然后身体里面的奴性基因自然就出来了
我都要笑死了😂
主持人超贊👍想不到外國主持人提問對答那麼有智慧,楊岳橋被問到口啞啞大快人心😏😆👏👏
The BBC host: You are asking for what you are never given by the British.
Alvin Yeung😨: What am I doing Why am I here 港英时期港督都是英国排出的,英国人处处像主人,连阿三都因为跟英国人当奴才早,可以欺负香港人,香港人妥妥的三等公民-------------哪来的民主?港独真是贱货!!
我不太明白,为什么英国人不给我们就该不给,以前都说香港是我们的同胞,现在是殖民地了?
@@mikezhao8397 因为制度不同,而且哪怕现在给了,以后也要收回去,因为他们要求的权利都是动乱的原因。到时候港独成长起来了只会让后来的麻烦更大,所以他们的要求无理至极。这人一直说他们只要求法案撤回并建立委员会调查,但实际他们要求的可不止这点,别忘了他之前可是说了五大诉求,甚至这还没完!
@@mikezhao8397 香港就是個大雜燴,居住的人不止有香港籍,還有一堆有居住證的外國人,要是都普選,那各種外國人都能當政了。
MInweHigher夜白 这不是问题,纽约也一堆外国人,当然只有有香港籍的才能选
3:48 最精彩的部分。
是的😂
我一直讨厌BBC,直到我看到这个访谈,我默默地按了订阅按钮……
I used to hate BBC until I saw this interview, and then I clicked the subscrib button.
别忘了看BBC的新疆特辑
same here
也许只是为了甩锅
Hill 英国人,精致的利己主义者,不会给你白白说好话,他们要是给你说好话,只是因为这件事捆绑了他的利益而已,明天,要是你站在了他的利益对立面,他污蔑你的时候可不会留情
相信我,還得取消訂閱,狗改不了吃屎
这是我第一次给BBC点赞,保持中立是新闻最基本的
Lau Jason 中立從來都不是以滿足你一個人的意見,而是針對不同立場作出質問,這是中立。不斷灌輸共產主義社會主義,這是洗腦,恭喜你!你被洗腦了!
@@sabercyber4165 你是被资本主义洗脑了!
Saber Cyber 我是站着第三方的角度看问题,每个国家都有不同的问题,中国也不例外,美国也不例外,但BBC很多报到确实有失偏颇。
Saber Cyber 恭喜,你真的被洗脑了,还共产主义呢
@@sabercyber4165 张嘴就是洗脑,野种就不会说别的词?你说我洗脑我就被洗脑了?说我不自由我就不自由了?洗脑你定义的?自由你定义的?
omfg i love this, i've been telling my friends from hong kong for years that the freedoms and democracy they thought they had under british rule never existed, hell under british rule ethnically chinese people weren't allowed to hold positions of power be it corporate, political or anything, it was all british run/controlled,
and now, look at who the leader of hong kong is, a CHINESE FEMALE LOCAL, something that would never have happened under british rule.. ffs
Everything is going to Shenzhen. Bye bye HK.
U tell the truth lol
the mayors of the Shanghai and Shenzhen would probably wake up laughing thanks to these ignorant HK morons
主持人对香港的了解和对话水平之高超乎想象。。。作为大陆人表示佩服,就职业素养来说中国记者很难有这个水平。
还是有很多的,只是中国淡化政治评论。共产党内部的精英看的很明白。
武断了吧,你这话用来评价香港记者还行
Mainland Chinese go to prison if they speak freely. Mainland Chinese go to jail if they think for themselves. China is not free
你的这个标准的水平的记者在大陆是不合格的 大陆记者如果不能作为喉舌的存在对高层来讲是没有存在的意义的 英国主持的观点也是我想表达的 我不认为大陆的记者和媒体人会想不到 但是他们不能这样做
TJack C 香港记者我们见识了
終於明白問題在於,香港自我感覺太良好了!哈哈哈哈!我想主持人暗地裡都會取笑這位井底議員!
Joanna Tsang 香港人真的蜜汁自信
Joanna Tsang 是的!说上海无法取代香港我震惊
@自由女神 香港还是以前繁荣的香港,大陆已经不是以前那个大陆。
又自卑,又自信。香港人
香港人太自信了……不知道哪来得信心🤭
3:53 全片精髓~好似表白時,被女神當眾拒絕後嘅表情。那種演不出來,屬於心裏最尷尬無言以對的表情😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@user-bossboy 嘴臭的臭弟弟。嘻嘻嘻
他就是个小丑
笑容逐渐消失
七夕這一天我看到了這一條信息。。。笑死了
中华民主卫士 哈哈哈哈哈 看着你们香蕉皮g点被戳中气得破口大骂的样子简直太好笑了。这话说给你自己听就好 别到时候回来跪舔的时候忘了自己说的 哈哈哈哈哈
have this man be well educated? he is totally nonlogical.
I am truly surprise that I could hear the truth from a western media. Well done!
so stupid
TRUTH?Are u kidding me??
The truth is only a part of the 'half story', don't be fooled
I’m so sorry that I hadn’t watched the whole video before making a comment, so sorry.
at least this host have no bias. He speak truth which is never heard from west media.
这个主持人是谁?如此实事求是,让我重新关注BBC
笑死。。。港灿怎么还不独立?
猴赛雷顶 哈哈,這個主持人真有點意思,我是大陸人
hahaha, the same to you!
@@猴赛雷顶 笑死 , 因為有個無賴蘇共漢奸國在死纏啊
@@GoldenCalfChannel 啊 这样啊
Let's say when British rule HK for 156 years. There is no Universal Suffrage. Everything is one man, one vote and rule the colony HK. British was smart to let a few elite to control HK public housing, HSBC control the financial industry of HK, Those elite has feed those gangster to help them control the society of HK. The British only interests is bring Revenue back to London. HK was just lucky during the 90s through early 21st century because HK was a stepping stone for foreign Companies to do business in China. That was why HK prosperity during that period.
楊岳橋 you only knows how to complaint, but has no solution to resolve the HK today's problem. I challenge you to come up with new ideas to improve HK economy.
M Chung
, I couldn't agree more. This legislator Yeung is a Moron, making some claims coming from nowhere.
@@williectk7944 Indeed a moron, I will never vote this ignorant
thanks for your sharing, totally agree
Hong Kong is not without opportunities, but misses too many opportunities. In 1999, Tung Chee-hwa proposed the "Digital Cyberport" project to develop Internet technology. We stood at that node and overlooked the world. Google was just born in a private garage in California. It is far from being listed. The shadow of Facebook and Twitter is still unknown. The domestic Ali and Tencent are also small gangs of 10 people. Ma Yun is not a "dad", it is just a ugly young man. At that time, Hong Kong, software, technology, talent, capital, which aspect can not kill the mainland?As a result, the Internet was not done, and the Cyberport was turned into real estate development. Later, Dong proposed the "Dangang" plan. Zhang Yijing, who came out of TSMC, wanted to make chip manufacturing in Hong Kong. The people of Hong Kong resolutely opposed it by "speculating the land and speculating the price of the property" and engaged in a parade. As a result, Shanghai invited Zhang Yujing to take a SMIC in Shanghai. It is now the largest chip manufacturer in China and the fourth in the world. Later, Dong once again proposed the "Chinese Medicine Port" plan. Because Hong Kong has a deep scientific research system, as well as a large number of biological researchers, the most important is the quality inspection system recognized by the whole world. This is the combination of production, education and research. However, again because of the short-sightedness of capital, it has not been done. As a result, the Huada Gene appeared in Shenzhen across the river, and it has become a world-class genetic and biological research enterprise. From 1999 to 2005, if Hong Kong seizes these three opportunities, Hong Kong is the Asian Internet center, chip manufacturing center and biological research center.
Alex Hu 問得好
I just can’t believe this interview is form BBC.
連英國主持都知英國當你香港人契弟呀,很多英國人對香港的認識是英國用不光彩的手段佔領了香港,香港人打出港英旗的做法令人作嘔🤮
@UCJLIZxtEjZ0qmP5-Dp7sSpQ @英國管治之下有很多殖民地, 理應有很多xx明珠 ??????. 中國1978年開放, 香港吃正條水 喳才有今天.
你这是要提醒我们每年纪念7.21元朗义士连续30年吗?
@@yyw7825 係香港幫大6才能改革到,更何況,在大6改革開放前,香港經濟已起飛。未亂講。
當我地契弟,但英國也把香港由一個漁港变成一颗東方明珠。
@@vivifong100 英国多坑了解下,我们军去东南亚打日本,结果他们跑了。。。
That was an amazing, truly unbiased interview, good job bbc... finally
这个主持人的问题很尖锐啊,没有单边立场
@小昵 净说大实话,让他们自以为是下去咯,不要吵醒他们的美梦…
@小昵 到时候香港再变回小渔村也不是不可能啊
小昵 怎么说呢 香港的金融中心跟上海的金融中心地位不太一样 香港能有这个地位还是归结于它的自由港地位 能发展一些大陆不能发展的外汇业务等 现在香港港口的吞吐量和腹地被深圳还有后面广州慢慢瓜分了 也就剩个比较自由的金融中心苟活 但这种政策性地位很难说不能改变 只要深圳或者海南划个地开个类似香港的自由贸易区 香港就大概率凉了
中國正面臨人口老化 如果中國政府要你們生不夠兩個就要罰錢 我想聽聽你意見 你敢出來反對嗎
@@Jimmylil1994 这个问题,中国人的传统观念里是有多子多孙的,如果政策可以生,绝对会生的,不会出现强制要求每家生2个,因为只要放宽生育政策,很多家庭会生很多,我爷爷奶奶那一辈普遍10几个兄弟姐妹,以前还是生活条件不好,现在如果政策允许,生活方面也不愁,中国的人口可能还能爆发一次
Beijing is no losing Hong Kong. Hong Konger themselves are losing their peaceful home by vandalizing it.
Hardtalk in BBC is always the best one! even lot of very hard questions to leader in different countries, I love it!
The host: You are asking for what you are never given by the British.
Alvin Yeung😨: What am I doing Why am I here
Jay Altes Is the right statement. They just ask now when China now take over.
😂
this is a very ignorant question. The British never gave HK universal suffrage because China didn't allow it. This is unveiled in recent's The National Archives in UK. British freed every colonies' autonomy during 1st or 2nd world war because it was costly for them to fully monitor all colonies, but only HK was an exception. China's former premier, Mr. 周恩來 warned China would take over HK immediately if British was to give HK universal suffrage in the fear that China would be affected. This is the fact.
@@stussyclie stop lying
@@stussyclie don't invent history.
既然訴求如此合理,口號說的 "五大訴求 缺一不可",為何在BBC只重複強調五大訴求中的其中三項?
楊議員看到的 "香港人團結一致",是否自動將異見市民排除在外? 只因大部分都不是年輕人,不是他口中的 "香港的未來"?
我跟父母都是土生土長的香港人,我還沒到30歲,但我不認同黑衣人犯法行為,很反感毒媒偏頗報導歪曲事實,是不是就不算 "香港的未來" ?
在杨议员看来,只有上街示威游行,帮助不想罢工的人被动罢工让香港混乱的年轻人才是香港的未来。
Great work BBC
"I can never blame younsters, they are the future ...". This is totally wrong. Right is right, wrong is wrong. It has nothing to do with age.
@@brityo7176 nobody knows the situation more than hongkongers. We all are very clear that the extradition bill will impair our legal system.
@Masked Singer Do you know how terrible the legal system of China is?
@Masked Singer you can do some research about this
They can only use the younsters to create riots, because the adults are more rational and they can hardly brainwash them.
His generation protested in 2000s as students. New breed of students are still rioting in 2019. So of course. He doesn’t blame them. He has infiltrated the system and supporting the students.
哈哈哈,一边罢工罢课罢市,打砸抢烧,一边喊着要保护HK国际金融中心的地位,真是优秀的逻辑!
说HK是中国唯一的国际金融中心,呵呵呵呵呵呵,这份自信从哪来的真的是值得思考啊!
其实 我喜欢中共就是因为中共不会被财团左右政局 在中国富豪财阀影响不了国家走向 甚至出了事定会被搞掉 其实每个国家的问题都是贫富差距问题 但是西方民主解决办法就是换个总统 换个政党 然后依旧是财阀掌控 更像是安抚民意的大麻膏 中国自古以来就是战争民族 怎么会屈服于受犹太人控制的美利坚合众国 当今世界 最聪明的两个种族终于要正面对决 犹太人和中国人 看看鹿死谁手
太有见地了
说得非常好!岛民和港独目光太肤浅,总觉得我们大陆人民不知道什么是自由民主?笑话,我们只是看透了政治,做了最优的选择而已
犹太人能够在世界上经久不衰的原因是信仰 因为他们的犹太教排他性是最强的 所以他们基本上不受基督教和伊斯兰教的干扰 更是因为常年的被迫害养成了不信任任何国家和民族的特点 所以他们没有归属感 他们攀附美国 控制美国 是因为他们种族需要美国强大的军事保护而已 我敢断言如果美国衰落 他会毫不犹豫的抛弃美国 另谋出路 我越来越相信比特币这玩意是犹太人搞得 它不受任何国家掌控 只受庄家掌控 而犹太人有的就是庄家 这样他们就可以穿越牛熊 穿越未来成为赢家
最有意思的事情就是 两个最聪明种族 一个是犹太教的忠实信徒 另一个是基本无神论的中国人 与犹太人相反中国人有着强烈的国家归属感 而且中国人无神论 很多人会反驳我 但是我告诉你 中国真的是无神论 中国人更注重实际 基本上是看见啥拜啥 一走一过管他神仙还是佛祖 拜就完了 万一哪个帮上忙了呢 中国人很少对一种神死心塌地的 但是中国人有一种精神 那就是对先人的尊敬 对天地的敬畏 这些也培养出这个另类的种族 他与众不同 对事物半信半疑 喜欢从阴阳两个方面看待问题 也就是辩证唯物主义的价值观 对新鲜事物 可以迅速融合 对报道的新闻从不盲目相信 喜欢翻墙出来看看别人怎么说 但是又不会完全相信墙外所谓的真相 这种求知欲 对真相的渴望 激发着这个民族的斗志 墙外的人啊 尤其是香港台湾人 你们真以为大陆人都傻啊 我告诉你们 大陆人是最喜欢和关心政治的 而且最善于分析国家的政治意图 大陆人经历了无数朝代政权变更 经历了经济无数次的起起落落 早就磨练出一种独特价值观了 那就是实用主义 共产党问题是不少 但是人家管的挺好啊 治安不错 国防不错 执政领导人的方向也没啥问题 自由民主那一套 没市场的 根本经不起推敲的事儿 真发生什么国际冲突 谁管你是啥制度 拳头即是真理 口径即是正义 你们慢慢看 欧洲默克尔 美国特朗普 包括台湾的蔡英文 都开始往集权使劲了 西方真正意识到集权才能放开手脚去做事情 各种乱七八糟的东西只能够给执政添麻烦 最后一事无成
最聪明的两个种族,笑死了,哈哈!
Jet Li 差點相信你們能選擇
Thanks Nathan!
当他说香港是中国唯一的国际金融中心时,我笑了
可能他们跟梁静茹比较熟
Qian俊陖竣葰竣焌餕 事實來的 就是紐倫港
是这样的吧。上海是远东金融中心,好像和人民币的国际化、外汇管制有关。如果顺利的话,政策帮忙上海可以,但是目前难说。
我也呵呵了,上海一年给国家交多少亿的税,你香港一年gdp也就高一些些,但一分钱没给中国。要不是情分和血缘真的是要你干嘛,我也是醉了…惯坏的小港崽子
MY GOD OH 也就几十年,在49年之前上海全亚洲经济最好。中共建国后整个上海的资本全部迁入香港,现在又在往回迁,比如前两天的太古。香港本来就是一个因为特殊年代所以产生的上海的替代品,现在上海东山再起了。
二十三条立法、双普选都是写在基本法里的。杨先生你只谈要求履行双普选,不谈二十三条立法,是不是选择性的虚伪?
他这叫选择性失明,而且人大07年通过了香港普选的申请,你可以搜一下基本法第45条,里面没有提到任何"promise"的字眼。后来普选给他们反对派弄了个雨伞运动搞掉了,都不知道姓杨的到底是没查清楚资料就来BBC访谈还是他提早得了认知障碍。
第二十二條
中央人民政府所屬各部門、各省、自治區、直轄市均不得干預香港特別行政區根據本法自行管理的事務。
中央各部門、各省、自治區、直轄市如需在香港特別行政區設立機構,須徵得香港特別行政區政府同意並經中央人民政府批准。
中央各部門、各省、自治區、直轄市在香港特別行政區設立的一切機構及其人員均須遵守香港特別行政區的法律。
*中國其他地區的人進入香港特別行政區須辦理批准手續,其中進入香港特別行政區定居的人數由中央人民政府主管部門徵求香港特別行政區政府的意見後確定。
香港特別行政區可在北京設立辦事機構。
@@maggiewong1173 这个是假普选来的!中央选定两个人来给你选!选那个都是傀儡来的!你这样都不明?
@@牛奶咖啡-e8z 你要在网上煽风点火之前能不能先回去读读资料?基本法哪一条说是中央选两个人了??
@@牛奶咖啡-e8z 好好读书很重要,不然留言都让人笑话
真的是尴尬癌都出来了 :)) this is very few times I like BBC news, as it's very few times BBC telling the truth about China/HK issues
一个美国人在劝中国人你要爱中国自己的国家、
我在东京峰 英国人
是英国人啦!
Love it! Love seeing this traitor getting embarrassed on the international stage. Totally out of his depth
From LIHKG:
//主持人極之有料 問題極之針對性
呢樣嘢亦都係對香港泛民一個深入質問
就係泛民究竟有冇決心假如要去脫離一國兩制框架咁玩
而今次運動大家都好明顯見到泛民係依家想維持喺一國兩制框架下去做改變
而主持人就係想問出泛民對一國兩制經已扭曲崩壞嘅底下點解仲要夾硬喺一國兩制框架底下爭扎(QUOTE中英聯合聲明已經無效 by China)
呢樣嘢如果個運動持續落去其實一定會同泛民有一個分界線
就係運動好明顯係朝住反一國兩制方向進法
香港人上得街嘅基本上都係出於港人對一國兩制嘅不信任
無論係基本法定係中聯辦干預到實際執法
大量香港人已經對呢個制度已經失去信任
如果泛民堅持用呢個一國兩制框架去行動(公民黨民主黨呢啲"大黨"好明顯係唔會支持放棄呢個框架 至少現階段係)
咁就會同佢哋所謂支持嘅示威者愈走愈遠
最終會令香港分裂加劇到更加不可能喺一國兩制框架底下修復嘅可能
再下一段主持人更加好清楚岳少/泛民同本土派之間嘅意見分歧
再深入啲追問泛民到底有幾大決心喺呢件事上面
否則只係送示威者上斷頭台(即係暗示泛民係唔係覺得應該食住人血饅頭去支持虛假嘅所謂一國兩制, quote年輕人認為係最後一戰 否則只會等到2047正式玩完)
簡單啲講呢個主持人分分鐘比某啲二線泛民更加清楚香港內部矛盾
不但止於市民同政府 仲有泛民內部同市民嘅分歧都清楚
佢啲提問好多都拮到泛民內部深層次矛盾
呢啲嘢對個運動持續發展落去可以影響好大//
lihkg.com/thread/1397314/page/1
Wilson Fung 不要太理想化。香港必需迎得独立材能迎来真正的双普選。還有一種方法就是全民同意回復英国統治権。是作為保護香港市民安全的基本防衛法。
@@wt477 東江水香港花巨款購買,你不收錢香港立即學以色列海水化淡,沒差香港有的是錢。
香港自給自足供電率為99.8%
香港糧食方面,除了活豬活魚六成由中國供應,新鮮菜有九成
其他如雞豉油係自給自足,牛有九成進口,米有九成進口
你大多改變到香港人飲食習慣,但離餓死還遠着呢
相反,中國不賣香港的糧食有什麼地方可以賣呢?記住要考慮運輸人口保存問題啊哈哈哈哈
@@天地-t3x 香港99. 8%的電是由南丫島,青山灣及龍鼓灘發電廠,主要由外國進口天然氣發電。大亞灣是輔助供應提高穩定度。
當然香港也存在機組老化等問題,但只是錢的問題,香港不缺錢
@@kill106 欸
kill106 thx for the info. Do you have source for your data?
"I can never blame the youngsters"---You are encouraging them to sacrifice for yourself.
😅😅
U tell the truth
Junzhe Zheng so true
so true
楊議員,一開始,你怎麼不把另外5大訴求的其他幾個說出來?你不是說合理嗎?怎麼一开始不说清楚?
因为他的论点建立在“Rule of law"上,讲另外几个诉求不就是打脸吗?
当时候你英爹统治的时候,怎么没那么多狗屁诉求,你亲爹来了,反而嫌弃这嫌弃那的,
你们香港最大的毛病就是当舔狗当习惯了,突然你亲爹跟你说:孩子,站起来,别舔了。
腰是挺直了,开始想让你亲爹舔你,你特么的还想的嫖娼了,你特么真的学坏了,好的你不学,学特么这事,你觉得你爹能同意吗?
@@haowu6749 对啊,第二个诉求尤其不能讲,直接要求释放被逮捕的人已经是生生在"rule of law“坟头蹦迪的操作了,说出来简直自掘坟墓
其实我也不清楚BBC主持人知不知道五大诉求。如果知道并问杨议员关于诉求的问题,估计肯定答不上来