Agree! Im actually trying to make the change from the term panic attack for “moment of tension being released” lets all unite and make this persoective switch together! Thanks Irene!
:) I’m just experiencing the moment after Partying with the ‘anxiety out of nowhere’ and feelings are very interesting: On this Sunday relaxed morning I suddenly started to feel some tricky nervousnes & deep weird fear I’d usually call anxiety. So I managed to tune into it, sensed it and did some exercices (from SmartBodySmartMind program) and now, in the evening (on the same day) I feel so spacefull inside and inspired for getting some things done that are on the waiting list since.. ages ago. This really is Gold
This is SO wonderful to read! Great that you are putting your tools to use and how quickly your system responds. Thanks for sharing Medeja! ✨ Nicole - Team Lyon Moderator
Feeling is healing! I find that Yin Yoga is a wonderful practice as it assists in gaining awareness of your body and what may be stuck in the tissues. It also helps to release those stuck emotions/unprocessed events and as you sit for those long periods (3 to 10 minutes) you build up the capacity to sit with the "uncomfortable" and ride the wave of feeling. You learn to be with whatever arises and how improtant the breath can be in integration. Thank you Irene for all you share!
I've noticed something interesting. On the rare occasions when I have been able to totally go into the anxiety 100% and leave my mind behind that these sensations are actually not unpleasant, they can in fact have an orgasmic quality to them. The problem is that the mind on an unconscious level, and conscious too, label the anxiety as bad, which causes the experience to be percieved as unpleasant, which it is really not. Long story short, I feel that the party-analogy is very true, but that the party can evolve into an orgy if we simply let it.
agree! On my side anxiety often hides the excitement which I have somehow been suppressing- as you said, my mind possibly labels it unsafe, or that I have not been allowed to express my excitement when young. Fascinating stuff!!
I'm doing some research on ptsd, and someone recommended this channel (so for, very interesting!). As far as "panic attacks" go, I have read a number of things (in natural health) that indicate PA's can very often be helped/cured by addressing a mineral deficiency/poor diet. Hardy Nutritionals may have figured this one out.
Thanks so much for this! So I did my first Feldenkrais exercise yesterday and my body feels so relaxed in a way like in amazing way! But I also have that tightening in the throat and stomach... I sense that it is because maybe my mind or body is kind of on alert because it actually feels relaxed? Lol does this happen?
That's totally possible! As part of you becomes relaxed there may be a new awareness of something which could have been there all along and now there's just a new sense of it. Or it could be that this tightening is a new response to the fact that something else in you relaxed. It's like "what the what!? That's not familiar and I better be on alert..." Be curious about it and see what you discover! Nicole - Team Lyon Moderator
This has been happening to me for the last month . At first, it was a full out panic attack and was at work. My question is. I was feeding my anxiety with fearful thoughts for a bit before that..( health anxiety) . most doctors believe that, that in itself can cause the cortisol levels to get out of wack and then that is what triggers the physical symptoms. Is that not true and this is all old trauma? I have dealt with these on and off since my mid 20's. I went on zoloft back then and was on it for a very long time.. like 20 yrs. I just went off it about 1 yr ago and now it is all back. I went off because I started a meditative practice, working out, alot of inner work, changed my diet.. I guess an "awakening" if you use that term. etc. But now I am confused and starting to think perhaps this is all chemical and I should go back on the meds again. which I really really don't want to, but I am a single mom of two sons with a full-time job. Coping with these symptoms daily is sometimes taxing.. othertimes, I am able to allow it
Sometimes, when there's trauma, doing things like meditating, working out, diet change and "inner work" can be a temporary fix or help mask what's really going on. Until something happens to trigger those old incomplete responses again. And bam. The anxiety and symptoms are back. This is where finding regulation and capacity and starting to work with the trauma is key. I suggest connecting with a doctor or therapist in regards to going back on your meds or not. Are you working with anyone? Nicole - Team Lyon Moderator
@@IreneLyon Hi Irene, I am working with a therapist, and the SSRI medications are not very good for your nervous system or actually any part of your body. They basically produce serotonin which stops your body from having to do it and/or regulate it. There is no wonder that I am experiencing these symptoms after using them for 20 yrs from a physical perspective and trauma. I am working with supplements to fortify my body and brain and natural options for stress. Things are getting better as I am able to handle the sensations and allow them to release without panic now. I think our body is fully capable of healing itself if we allow it Meditation, working out and diet change I think will help give me the tools and strength to get through these symptoms why allowing the trauma to release. I honestly don't think they masked anything. I think it was just time for them to come up now. I love your videos and thank you for what you do XO
@@IreneLyon hi team Lyon. What if we are experiencing fight/flight energy every day? This year has been tumultuous. I didn’t process anything, and like you said to Ann, a lot of these “holistic” practices mask the trauma which I think happened to me. Now, everything is coming out. I am resourcing when needed and trying to grow capacity slowly. I feel very on edge, like everything is a danger sometimes. It ebbs and flows throughout the day. Is this all part of it?
@@Doorto_theriver, Jen here from Team Lyon. As you suggested, when this is the case it's often a sign that we need to take steps to grow foundational nervous system capacity. This can be a gradual process, and ebbs and flows along the way are often part of the process. Knowing what supports, resources, and for some, distracts us, can be important as we're in the process of growing capacity and navigating these experiences.
When addressing disorders like these, we would approach it with the same nervous system lens - where the focus is in finding regulation and building a sense of capacity and safety within the system. This in turn can often lead to a greater sense of how to be with the symptoms and can also often lead to a change within the symptoms. Have you had the opportunity to check out more videos or any of the resources on irenelyon.com/ ? This may also give you more insight! Nicole - Team Lyon Moderator
Hi im a women from sweden. I have anxiety/panicattaks (GAD) it start erly in morning and i have it in The Day, i taking bensos 60 mg every day , i have hade this for meny yers and i Tierd of it i Wonder If lyrica can help me beter so i can get of bensos.? I had triad anti meds but i dont feling good on them. My problem Is My anxiety and it make me tierd of living.
@@Bomber411 these can be helpful strategies :) We must work at a nervous system level to see long lasting changes in our anxiety etc. Nicole - Team Lyon Moderator
This work is about healing the nervous system. I encourage you to check out the free resources on irenelyon.com/ In regards to your medications, I would suggest talking to your doctor :) Nicole - Team Lyon Moderator
@@IreneLyon will definitely check that out. I've cut out most of my meds and besides the few exceptions I now just take CBD/THC. It makes me care again. (I've been drowning in anxiety and depression and have lost interest in life.) Walking in the woods actually is like taking medication for your body, only naturally. Results from studies show great medical benefits from "Forest-bathing", (besides the obvious and expected positives of exercise). My Dr told me years ago that he was reading a study that said something about the trees letting off pheromones (or something like that) that help our bodies heal. Deep breathing exercises can strengthen the lungs among so many other amazing benefits to our health. I look forward to reading that info you shared, and incorporating your findings with my own. Thanks for sharing that!
Glad you find it reassuring :) In regards to filing in landscape - I agree, it's nice to see more! This video was taken from an instastory which requires things to be filmed in portrait. The challenge of working with a number of different social media platforms... Nicole - Team Lyon Moderator
HI Phyllis Boyle, Jen here from Team Lyon. I'm sorry to hear that your Lyme's is so debilitating. I'm assuming you've been seen by an allopathic medical professional as they often have some interventions that can be helpful. We've also had many people with Lyme's go through Irene's online Healing Trauma programs (The 21 Day Nervous System Tune Up and SmartBody SmartMind) with good results. Lisa Dennis, a SmartBody SmartMind alum, wrote a book about healing from Lyme's. I'll link to her book here in case it's of interest. www.goodreads.com/book/show/27847382-unveiling-lyme-disease
Not coping with situations/when faced with new challenges can be a form of shutting down. It's hard to say exactly without a bit of investigating! As for the solution, to start I would suggest doing the work! Get to know yourself at a nervous system/somatic level. Here are a few free resources. irenelyon.com/free-resources/ Or check out the 21 day program. irenelyon.com/tuneup/ The start to the solution lies in taking action :) Nicole - Team Lyon Moderator
Hi Irene , I want to first thank you for all of your efforts to educate us . I really like your approach , but having troubles finding a therapist here in USA in my area with similar background/focus. Any recommendations? If it's okay with you I would like to send an email and maybe you can guide me . Thanks!
Yes. This can be a challenge! Where do you live in the USA? There's the option to work with a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner online as well :) Nicole - Team Lyon Moderator
@@Mo-yx4ly you can check out this list: irenelyon.com/sep-referral-list/ Or visit the SEP website. sepractitioner.membergrove.com/ I would suggest seeing if you can arrange a consult so you can "feeling into" the practitioners :) Nicole
I remember in a past video where you said the system needs more "JUICE" in order to come out of freeze and let the sensations come, my body is really just exhausted but remembering that really put where I'm at in place. You never fail to help 😉. Btw when are you releasing the video with Kathy kain?? We got the sneak peak, but not the full interview. No rush just want to know. Thanks!
So great to hear that the information is helpful! I don't know the exact date on when the interview with Kathy will be out, but I know it will be soon! Nicole - Team Lyon Moderator
Agree! Im actually trying to make the change from the term panic attack for “moment of tension being released” lets all unite and make this persoective switch together! Thanks Irene!
:) I’m just experiencing the moment after Partying with the ‘anxiety out of nowhere’ and feelings are very interesting:
On this Sunday relaxed morning I suddenly started to feel some tricky nervousnes & deep weird fear I’d usually call anxiety.
So I managed to tune into it, sensed it and did some exercices (from SmartBodySmartMind program) and now, in the evening (on the same day) I feel so spacefull inside and inspired for getting some things done that are on the waiting list since.. ages ago.
This really is Gold
This is SO wonderful to read!
Great that you are putting your tools to use and how quickly your system responds.
Thanks for sharing Medeja! ✨
Nicole - Team Lyon Moderator
Feeling is healing! I find that Yin Yoga is a wonderful practice as it assists in gaining awareness of your body and what may be stuck in the tissues. It also helps to release those stuck emotions/unprocessed events and as you sit for those long periods (3 to 10 minutes) you build up the capacity to sit with the "uncomfortable" and ride the wave of feeling. You learn to be with whatever arises and how improtant the breath can be in integration.
Thank you Irene for all you share!
I've noticed something interesting. On the rare occasions when I have been able to totally go into the anxiety 100% and leave my mind behind that these sensations are actually not unpleasant, they can in fact have an orgasmic quality to them. The problem is that the mind on an unconscious level, and conscious too, label the anxiety as bad, which causes the experience to be percieved as unpleasant, which it is really not. Long story short, I feel that the party-analogy is very true, but that the party can evolve into an orgy if we simply let it.
haha! An interesting thought to think/feel into!
Thanks for sharing.
Nicole - Team Lyon Moderator
agree! On my side anxiety often hides the excitement which I have somehow been suppressing- as you said, my mind possibly labels it unsafe, or that I have not been allowed to express my excitement when young. Fascinating stuff!!
Excellent advise !! It has worked for me and kept me off antidepressants..
Beautiful!! I feel everything you are saying in my core. Love it!!
I'm doing some research on ptsd, and someone recommended this channel (so for, very interesting!). As far as "panic attacks" go, I have read a number of things (in natural health) that indicate PA's can very often be helped/cured by addressing a mineral deficiency/poor diet. Hardy Nutritionals may have figured this one out.
Thanks so much for this! So I did my first Feldenkrais exercise yesterday and my body feels so relaxed in a way like in amazing way! But I also have that tightening in the throat and stomach... I sense that it is because maybe my mind or body is kind of on alert because it actually feels relaxed? Lol does this happen?
That's totally possible! As part of you becomes relaxed there may be a new awareness of something which could have been there all along and now there's just a new sense of it. Or it could be that this tightening is a new response to the fact that something else in you relaxed. It's like "what the what!? That's not familiar and I better be on alert..."
Be curious about it and see what you discover!
Nicole - Team Lyon Moderator
This has been happening to me for the last month . At first, it was a full out panic attack and was at work. My question is. I was feeding my anxiety with fearful thoughts for a bit before that..( health anxiety) . most doctors believe that, that in itself can cause the cortisol levels to get out of wack and then that is what triggers the physical symptoms. Is that not true and this is all old trauma? I have dealt with these on and off since my mid 20's. I went on zoloft back then and was on it for a very long time.. like 20 yrs. I just went off it about 1 yr ago and now it is all back. I went off because I started a meditative practice, working out, alot of inner work, changed my diet.. I guess an "awakening" if you use that term. etc. But now I am confused and starting to think perhaps this is all chemical and I should go back on the meds again. which I really really don't want to, but I am a single mom of two sons with a full-time job. Coping with these symptoms daily is sometimes taxing.. othertimes, I am able to allow it
Sometimes, when there's trauma, doing things like meditating, working out, diet change and "inner work" can be a temporary fix or help mask what's really going on. Until something happens to trigger those old incomplete responses again. And bam. The anxiety and symptoms are back. This is where finding regulation and capacity and starting to work with the trauma is key.
I suggest connecting with a doctor or therapist in regards to going back on your meds or not. Are you working with anyone?
Nicole - Team Lyon Moderator
@@IreneLyon Hi Irene, I am working with a therapist, and the SSRI medications are not very good for your nervous system or actually any part of your body. They basically produce serotonin which stops your body from having to do it and/or regulate it. There is no wonder that I am experiencing these symptoms after using them for 20 yrs from a physical perspective and trauma. I am working with supplements to fortify my body and brain and natural options for stress. Things are getting better as I am able to handle the sensations and allow them to release without panic now. I think our body is fully capable of healing itself if we allow it Meditation, working out and diet change I think will help give me the tools and strength to get through these symptoms why allowing the trauma to release. I honestly don't think they masked anything. I think it was just time for them to come up now. I love your videos and thank you for what you do XO
@@annhershey8111 hi Ann, how are you doing now?
@@IreneLyon hi team Lyon. What if we are experiencing fight/flight energy every day? This year has been tumultuous. I didn’t process anything, and like you said to Ann, a lot of these “holistic” practices mask the trauma which I think happened to me. Now, everything is coming out. I am resourcing when needed and trying to grow capacity slowly. I feel very on edge, like everything is a danger sometimes. It ebbs and flows throughout the day. Is this all part of it?
@@Doorto_theriver, Jen here from Team Lyon. As you suggested, when this is the case it's often a sign that we need to take steps to grow foundational nervous system capacity. This can be a gradual process, and ebbs and flows along the way are often part of the process. Knowing what supports, resources, and for some, distracts us, can be important as we're in the process of growing capacity and navigating these experiences.
thank you irene
can you please talk about hyperactivity disorder. .
and Trichotillomania.
When addressing disorders like these, we would approach it with the same nervous system lens - where the focus is in finding regulation and building a sense of capacity and safety within the system. This in turn can often lead to a greater sense of how to be with the symptoms and can also often lead to a change within the symptoms.
Have you had the opportunity to check out more videos or any of the resources on irenelyon.com/ ? This may also give you more insight!
Nicole - Team Lyon Moderator
@@IreneLyon thank you irene
Very good, thank you.
Great info as always, Irene!❤️
Thank-you Irene!
Thank you Irene
Hi im a women from sweden. I have anxiety/panicattaks (GAD) it start erly in morning and i have it in The Day, i taking bensos 60 mg every day , i have hade this for meny yers and i Tierd of it i Wonder If lyrica can help me beter so i can get of bensos.? I had triad anti meds but i dont feling good on them. My problem
Is My anxiety and it make me tierd of living.
Evert, have you tried cannabis? Deep breathing exercises? Walking in the woods?
All of these help me. Xo
@@Bomber411 these can be helpful strategies :)
We must work at a nervous system level to see long lasting changes in our anxiety etc.
Nicole - Team Lyon Moderator
This work is about healing the nervous system. I encourage you to check out the free resources on irenelyon.com/
In regards to your medications, I would suggest talking to your doctor :)
Nicole - Team Lyon Moderator
@@IreneLyon will definitely check that out. I've cut out most of my meds and besides the few exceptions I now just take CBD/THC. It makes me care again. (I've been drowning in anxiety and depression and have lost interest in life.)
Walking in the woods actually is like taking medication for your body, only naturally. Results from studies show great medical benefits from "Forest-bathing", (besides the obvious and expected positives of exercise). My Dr told me years ago that he was reading a study that said something about the trees letting off pheromones (or something like that) that help our bodies heal.
Deep breathing exercises can strengthen the lungs among so many other amazing benefits to our health.
I look forward to reading that info you shared, and incorporating your findings with my own. Thanks for sharing that!
❤
Good advice, very reassuring. Please flip your phone so on landscape phone viewing it fills screen and we see more beach.
I dunno man. I've seen a buncha beaches and they all seem to look alike after a while. I found myself looking at the intricacies of her face.
Glad you find it reassuring :)
In regards to filing in landscape - I agree, it's nice to see more! This video was taken from an instastory which requires things to be filmed in portrait. The challenge of working with a number of different social media platforms...
Nicole - Team Lyon Moderator
Bless
I have Lyme disease and debilitating anxiety. I can’t even go out anymore
HI Phyllis Boyle, Jen here from Team Lyon. I'm sorry to hear that your Lyme's is so debilitating. I'm assuming you've been seen by an allopathic medical professional as they often have some interventions that can be helpful. We've also had many people with Lyme's go through Irene's online Healing Trauma programs (The 21 Day Nervous System Tune Up and SmartBody SmartMind) with good results.
Lisa Dennis, a SmartBody SmartMind alum, wrote a book about healing from Lyme's. I'll link to her book here in case it's of interest.
www.goodreads.com/book/show/27847382-unveiling-lyme-disease
I become very anxious when face new challenges not coping with situation is it freeze response or anything else iren Lyon if yes solution
Not coping with situations/when faced with new challenges can be a form of shutting down. It's hard to say exactly without a bit of investigating!
As for the solution, to start I would suggest doing the work! Get to know yourself at a nervous system/somatic level.
Here are a few free resources.
irenelyon.com/free-resources/
Or check out the 21 day program.
irenelyon.com/tuneup/
The start to the solution lies in taking action :)
Nicole - Team Lyon Moderator
Hi Irene ,
I want to first thank you for all of your efforts to educate us . I really like your approach , but having troubles finding a therapist here in USA in my area with similar background/focus. Any recommendations? If it's okay with you I would like to send an email and maybe you can guide me .
Thanks!
Yes. This can be a challenge! Where do you live in the USA?
There's the option to work with a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner online as well :)
Nicole - Team Lyon Moderator
@@IreneLyon Thanks for the reply. I am interested on One on One session, i'm in the east coast (south east)
@@Mo-yx4ly you can check out this list:
irenelyon.com/sep-referral-list/
Or visit the SEP website.
sepractitioner.membergrove.com/
I would suggest seeing if you can arrange a consult so you can "feeling into" the practitioners :)
Nicole
I got the lot?
Sorry to hear that :(
I'm glad that you've found this channel and hope that it helps give you hope and some insight.
Nicole - Team Lyon Moderotor
I remember in a past video where you said the system needs more "JUICE" in order to come out of freeze and let the sensations come, my body is really just exhausted but remembering that really put where I'm at in place. You never fail to help 😉. Btw when are you releasing the video with Kathy kain?? We got the sneak peak, but not the full interview. No rush just want to know. Thanks!
So great to hear that the information is helpful!
I don't know the exact date on when the interview with Kathy will be out, but I know it will be soon!
Nicole - Team Lyon Moderator