Tuning the First 13 Notes of a Piano by Ear (The Temperament)

Follow along as I tune a temperament and show how to refine the first 13 notes of a piano by ear.
Chapters
1:13 Check your A
3:10 You can't tune a temperament if you can't tune unisons well!
5:37 Tune A3 to A4
7:32 Tune E4 to A3 and A4
9:41 Tune D4 to A3 and A4
17:33 Tune B3 to E4
19:11 Tune F#4 to B3
21:32 Tune C# to F#4
23:18 Tune G#4 to C#4
26:25 Tune D#4 to G#4
28:25 Tune Bb3 to Eb4
31:24 Tune F4 to Bb3
35:01 Tune C4 to F4
40:04 Tune G4 to C4
43:25 Check G4 to D4
44:34 Check all intervals and refine the temperament

[@heinvosloo45]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience Hyrum

[@luckysflute5011]

Thanks a lot, waiting for the whole tuning!

[@saltlakepianoservice]

Just posted a full tuning, check it out...

[@saltlakepianoservice]

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[@Geoplanetjane]

Thank you

[@henkmarinus]

Greath video Sir, Good explanation!

[@Khosrowasadollah]

piano string broken and needs to be fixed. Isi which end can you precogmmmm

[@Lurch-Bot]

If you want to be a good piano tuner, going to music school is a great way to get the aural perception training necessary. If you have that under your belt, you will hear everything. I played violin when I was a kid. That helps.
I'm going to stick with tried and true (and expedient) methods for tuning equal temperament. Other temperaments are different and you have to do it more like your way if you want the best results. I'm not going to spend this kind of time tuning a piano used for choral accompaniment and these days, most people want a well tempered piano if they are performing a solo or with an orchestra. It is even more valid than ET for things like modern pop, jazz and blues (the Beatles used Werckmeister III). Equal temperament is just boring. It would be considered far too clean by someone like Mozart or Bach. Great for church music though, lol.

[@KeyboardPonderings]

You said ”You want a piano to be really really close before you tune it otherwise […] you’ll find that when you’re done the strings have changed pitch.” Can you expand on this? Define “really really close”. One of things I’ve been struggling with a lot lately is the notes shifting. I can mute strip the temperament, tune it, then go back and check it 10 minutes later and things have shifted. So I’ll fix it, and it will shift again. It’s never consistant. I suspect the fault is with my technique, and I’m trying to figure out exactly what I’m doing wrong. But I’m also wondering if something else could be going on. I’ve got a Dammp-Chaser system and it’s been maintaining a 32-35% humidity instead of a 45% humidity. I’m going to have that looked at soon. But regarding your statement, could I perhaps be moving the string TOO much and making things unstable? Maybe a video on tuning techniques would be helpful. 😁 Thank you for sharing this series!!

[@saltlakepianoservice]

Thanks for your input, this is in my plan to make videos on pitch raises, why strings change tension, tuning techniques, etc. Stay tuned!

[@Lurch-Bot]

If it is really out of tune, you start out tuning sharp - 30 cents or so. You don't want to use OP's method if this is the case because you want to go through the piano and tune evenly to evenly apply tension across the harp. As you do, the harp contracts a bit and falls into tune. You want to use the temperament strip and the conventional equal temperament tuning method. If a piano is really out of tune and you use OP's method, you're going to end up chasing your tail for hours.
I suggest you watch this video: th-cam.com/video/xMXwhPKVMM0/w-d-xo.html