I bought the Osmo Mobile and one of the key reasons was for motion time-lapses. Only issue is DJI Go has all your camera settings to auto which gives flicker in your time lapse as the white balance and ISO change. FilMicPro does not support motions time lapse as I found out after buying it :( Really hope they add it in the future so we can have motion time lapse with manual camera settings.
I saw another video that went over this "shake" when recording and even though the OIS is turned off, the actual lens doesn't stay locked when the phone is moved, there is still movement because the OIS can never fully be turned off. It was looked at in slo-mo and when touched, the camera lens still moves even when switched off.
My iPhone 7 and Osmo Mobile work great together. I automatically bought and used Filmic Pro when I got my Osmo mobile due to its great reviews/recommendations. The only time my video was shaky was when I walked normally but when I used the proper technique that corrected the issue. Once again another great video!
The problem is when the OIS is turned off. When it’s turned on, the system is constantly sending an electrical signal based on the info from the gyro to the coils of wire in the stabilizer, locking the lens in a specific location that reflects what the gyro is reading. Because the lens is locked down by the electromagnets, it doesn’t jitter when shaken. On the contrary, OIS is disabled in the DJI app, and because of that, the lens is not locked down because the electromagnets are off, allowing it to float freely. You can test it yourself. Turn off the OIS in filmic pro, with another device to record the back of the iPhone 7 Plus at 240 FPS. When recording, use your finger and tap the side of the phone. You should see the lens wobble in the final footage. Do the same with OIS turned on, and you’ll notice it is much more stable
so if it isn't the iphone's built in optic stabilization, how come the jittering goes away when you use the 2x lens (that doesn't have optical stabilization?) Filmic pro OIS is built into the app, it doesnt actually turn it off on your iphone, so that is why you still get jittering regardless. switch it to 2x lens and it will work perfectly
Did you happen to take the osmo/iPhone 7 combo skiing with you? If you took any footage while skiing down the mountain I'm curious how you thought it performed?
+Andrew DeVries When I went skiing I used my Osmo Mobile with the GoPro using the rubber band trick. Didn't want to use my phone as the GoPro has a much wider field of view. I think it probably would have performed ok, but with the wind I feel as though it may have knocked it off calibration as the phone catches a lot of the wind when going down hill. Hope that made sense lol
I'm using FilmicPro and I have also seen lots of buttering when using the iphone7plus. However I have mostly shot with OIS off and looks like from ur comparison that having it on is better.
Have you been able to export video from DJI GO app using iTunes? I tried and no video files found. I had to use the app to save to camera roll. That's annoying.
+Netcruzer I was in the same boat. The way that I did it was to go to iTunes and then click on the device you have plugged in. Go to the apps stored on the device and scroll down to file sharing. Once you click on the DJI Go app, look for the folder titled "video cache." Drag that to your computer and it should transfer all files stored on the DJI Go app. Hopefully that makes sense lol
Filmic while great is totally impractical because of battery usage.FILMIC ABSOLUTELY KILLS BATTERY dji is a pain in the ass because of the difficulty getting the files off. so after everything i use the native camera software.
Hmm, You should also try 'Movie Pro' as it has OFF, Standard, and Cinematic stability modes. Remember that there is OIS and EIS, and we never really know what the 'stability' options are doing regarding both of those. Up until now I was under the impression that the stability options in Filmic Pro or Movie Pro were for EIS only.
+Netcruzer I have seen plenty of other apps that can be good for the Osmo Mobile. I chose Filmic Pro just because of its Osmo compatibility and based on the good reviews I have read.
The 3 osmo control stick modes in Filmic Pro are nice features, but I would love to see them try to add ActiveTrack to Filmic. That is the best feature of DJI GO. Personally I like the UI of Movie Pro more, it is cheaper than Filmic, and has some features like pause rec, and cinematic stability not in Filmic.
personally, I think anyone interested in flying a DJI drone for photography reasons should try the OSMO first... Best Buy offers an extended warranty on the OSMO for $75 (two years)... if you are heavy user, it might be worth it... not sure. thx for the comparison... I prefer to shoot video in the default OS X Photo App, as I don't like fiddling around the w/ share feature via a 3rd party environment. The Active Tracking Option is available in the DJI App, and that is super cool. The OSMO Mobile consumes a lot of battery juice... would be prudent to have a couple batteries on hand too. thx for the video of the App comparison...
A tiny magnet over the corner of the phone where the ois sensor is solves the jitter and proving it is the ois causing the problems. I know it a little jerry rigish but hey it works great and will make youlike your gimble again. Good video by the way its what started my journey in fixing the jitter issue so thanks.
Zhiyun smooth gimbals have the same issue with their gimbal apps. They last update it about months ago with zero compatibility with other Android phones. As for third party apps to use with either gimbals...forget it. it's a very narrow selection. Either use the app that goes with the gimbal or don't waste your money.
Any thoughts on the Filmic companion app “Filmic Remote”? I intend to place my OSMO 2 on a tall tripod/light stand and attempt to use active track for sports (I am fully aware this will probably fail miserably unless there is only a single subject in frame). The Filmic remote app allows you to use an iPad or other iOS device to remote control the app. My Osmo 2 arrives tomorrow and I’ll be giving it a shot asap. If active track doesn’t work well for my application, I may just use the remote app to control it like a pan/tilt head. I went through 2 different Soloshot 3 units and they just aren’t ready for prime time AT ALL. Figured I’d try this solution before reverting back to a traditional video camera and pan/tilt head. From everything I have read/watched, it certainly appears that while the OIS on iPhones is great for traditional uses, the floating nature of the mechanism doesn’t lend itself to gimbals very well (thus gimbal steadies the phone, but not the floating camera inside...OIS in combination with gimbal seem to be a multi-part solution...the gimbal corrects most of the shakes and the OIS continues to do it’s thing on the micro vibrations). A non-OIS system (in theory) should work better with a gimbal.. But I digress. Love your channel.
Dude, how did you get the track you used for your footage examples? I know the song is "Step out of your way" by Smiley, but I can't get the instrumental version of it, please, help me with this!
Great informative video. Thanks for sharing. One question though: is this jittering only a problem with the iPhone 7? I own a iPhone 6S and wonder if it has the same issues?
You are still seeing shaking because when you turn off OIS on iPhone 7 it's still kind of "on", by which I mean that it still rocks when it is hit with movement.
So if OIS is not the root of the gittering, what could it be? Thank your for this awesome video, I want to buy a osmo mobile, but with an iphone 7+ this wobble problem is not what I expect from a stabilizer.
chris_zueger The current wisdom and it seems reasonable is that it isn't s software setting. OIS on our off isn't the issue. The lenses are spring mounted. Software can't turn this off. The gimbal makes small changes very quickly. This causes the lens to move which causes jitter. Perhaps the rate of movement for the gimbal could be changed to help reduce this. This is a dji problem. There isn't a problem on the iPhone without OIS.
Te video is perforct thanks for your share.. when I watch the video the part of Filmic Pro with OIS on, I could'nt see your shadow on the floor.Could u have record the footage on 2x optic zoom, can u please inform, l am about to but buy Osmo, please help I use iphone 7 plus.
+Ercan lorus I think my camera was just looking straight for the Osmo shots as it was stabilized. When I was using it handheld, I was pointing the phone downwards a bit by accident.
Out of context question: I have iphone 6s for an year now. If I buy Filmic Pro now on iPhone 6s, would I be able to install the app on iPhone 7s or 8 when if I buy it later?
Thank you for the help. I have just ordered the Osmosis and have a 7+ and contemplating getting the filmic pro app. You have helped me make my mind up.
+LuXuper - The App for Car Enthusiasts Not for now. I don't own an android, although I know those two phones work better than the iPhone 7 due to comparability issues.
This probably seems like a pretty silly question, but how do you turn OIS on in Filmic Pro. I have an iPhone 7+ with an OSMO Mobile and Filmic Pro vs 6. I see "stabilization".
Hi, thank u for this useful review. I tried to switch on the OIS in FiLMiC pro but i cant because the application recognizes that I use the Osmo mobile. Do you know how to swith the OIS on in filmic pro?
Hello Billy nice video. Anyways would like to ask if for DJI Osmo gimbal mobile 2 does it work with samsung s8 and iphone 6s? And can I just use the same app for the 2 phones whenever?
Hey Billy, u probably already answered this, but guess i am too tired to read through all the posts. I am a chef living in Costa Rica and thinking of starting a food vlog here. I use an iPhone 7 and just ordered for the osmo mobile, do you advise I buy the filmic pro app, or u think I could do well without. So sorry again for the bother, I am totally not a tech person, just looking at starting a new hobby. Bless
+David 'Boyejo oluneye Maybe give the stock camera app a try. If you feel that you need more manual control, the filmic app will be what you're looking for
From image stabilization point of view, is there any difference between the in stock Camera app and the Filmic Pro app (with OIS on) when using OSMO Mobile? Great test and analysis!
Thank you! I noticed that they both seem to look the same as both have OIS turned on, but you get a lot of features with the Filmic Pro app. If you don't want to spend the $10 the stock iOS camera app will be perfect.
OIS is always on. There is no way to turn it off as it is a mechanical feature built into the camera module, hence the term 'optical' image stabilization. Not even Apple can turn off OIS, unless they build in some type of mechanical brake or magnet to stop the mechanical OIS. The only stabilization that can be turned off using a third party app like FiLMiC Pro is the auto or cinematic stabilization which is software based and has nothing to do with OIS which again, is physically built into the camera module.
Very helpful video. I recently purchased the Osmo Mobile and I've been using Filmic Pro with OIS turned off. I've been disappointed, and was ready to return the Osmo Mobile. I'll have to try it with OIS turned on. Thanks!
Thank you for the superb comparison video showing different modes and setting - best I've seen on YT! Very well executed by doing the same walk each time. I bought Filmic Pro, now I just have to get the DJI Osmo and try this out. Cheers from Montréal :-)
The jittering must be in the gyro over-compensating, much like PID tuning in a flight controller. The big phones probably throw the balance out of whack and the gimbal motors may be just a little weak. Too bad because I have a 7+ and have been wanting an Osmo for months 🤔🤓
You dont have problems balancing your iphone 7 plus with the dji osmo mobile? Or are you doing some slight DIY stuff to balance it like i mostly see here in youtube.
One con I have about the DJI Go App is that it drains my iPhone 6s' battery incredibly fast. Which is why I lately have been using the iOS stock camera over the DJI Go App.
Nice video, I use Samsung S7 edge with the Osmo Mobile, and get very stabile footage when filming normal. But I have noticed when filming timelapses, I get alot of gimbalmovement. Have you any experience or tricks to work around this?
+Austevik Dronefoto I haven't noticed anything about this. Are you making sure to take timelapses by placing the Osmo Mobile down rather than holding it? That is how you get the best results.
I use the tripod and the extension rod that I use, I find it more noticable the longer it takes for the timelapse. It looks ok on the mobile screen, but not if you want to use it in a clip on youtube. Its annoying to run everything through warp stabilizer pre-recording.
You may be able to use the universal mount and put your phone off to the side and "trick" the osmo into thinking your phone is recording when you have the Hero in the actual gimbal. Just a thought.
Thx for video. Quality of your video is awesome! Can I ask you about your montage programm? Which do you use and what are render settings(resolution,codec,videobitrate,video fps,audiocodec)?
Hi Billy, I noticed another con for the filmic pro app: my battery drains a lot Quicker Than in de dji go app. Do you have any experience with that? Thx
Very very helpful! Thanks. Have you tried using an external lens like "Moment lens" I want to add an external wide angle lens on my iPhone 7 plus, but I heard Osmo gimble can't handle the extra weight. Any suggestions? Thanks again.
DJI definitely needs to add a micro-adjustment feature for all three axis settings. So many different phone sizes and weights. Face tracking is impossible to use yourself. You need someone to set the tracking for you if you plan to leave the Osmo on a tripod or stand for Vlogs.
Thanks Billy, it a great video. I believe you're right about the DJI Go app turning off the OIS per default. (I have a iPhone 7 Plus as well) But I have a problem when you see spending 10 bucks on a very well developed and advanced piece of software (Filmic Pro) as a drawback. The team behind Filmic Pro are making a great effort and wants to make a living from it! I think you should re-think your attitude and recommending your peers to support Filmic Pro and actually buy the app instead.
+Thomas Hjorth I just am frustrated that DJI Go is not a go to solution. The app that comes with the device should be flawless. I myself have no problem spending $10 on a great application, but I know others will.
The OIS is not fighting the Osmo. The lens for the OIS is fitted on small springs and when the IS of the iPhone is turned off the lens bounces and creates the jittering effect.
Hi Billy, I just bought the osmo 2 and found that I cannot use it on my windows idol 4s mobile phone. Is there a windows app that I can use? Will be grateful for help.
There is no way to turn off the OIS, not even apple can turn it off, as it is a mechanical feature built into the camera module. The only stabilization you can turn off with a third party app like FiLMiC pro is the auto or cinematic stabilization, which is software based and has nothing at all to do with OIS.
Yes, agreed, because FilMiC Pro is a kick ass app that is a total steal for the measly $12 they charge to buy it. The DJI Go has some neat features specific to the gimbal, and does the job, but is nowhere near equal to FiLMIC Pro.
Very nice video. Good food for thought. Do you think there is any difference at all in the way the Osmo works with different apps. I don’t mean the recording I mean how fast it reacts etc? I take it that if you change the sensitivity from day Walk to Sport the effects are the same whatever app is then used?
Another great video...I have the Osmo Mobile and have been using the Filmic Pro app... Even one of the DJI guys said on the DJI Forum that the Filmic Pro app is superior and should be used with the Osmo Mobile. Also like I can have an external mic using the Filmic Pro app
+Jeff Walrich Haven't used an external mic as I usually don't use the sound when I record using my Osmo Mobile. I love the filmic pro app as well, definitely worth the money.
I think the problem is that even when the camera stabilization is turned off the lens still floats in its housing, just tap the phone and look closely at the camera to see what I mean. If the lens was fixed when OIS was off that would probably fix it.
Great video, thank you for the demos. Might pick up the Filmic Pro app at some point. For now, I'm sticking with the stock camera app and the OSMO combo and the DJI app/OSMO combo. I'm using a 6+ and the footage in the later combo seems much more stable that yours.
the problem is the mechanical spring that is used with the ois. Whether OIS is on or off, this mechanical spring can not be turned off and is the root cause of the jitter. Ask DJI, they will give the same answer.
+d3extreme Interesting. With the rest I did I noticed that the DJI Go app actually yields the worst results. The best apps to use are Filmic Pro and the stock iOS camera app.
+d3extreme Interesting. With the rest I did I noticed that the DJI Go app actually yields the worst results. The best apps to use are Filmic Pro and the stock iOS camera app.
Has there been an update of the DJI app since you made this clip? Now the Filmic Pro is 14,99 USD, So what about ProMovie for 2,99 USD? What about battery usage? I heard the DJI app is a drainage of battery time.
You’re a bit off on the iPhones IOS. It’s mechanical. You don’t turn it off. The workaround has been to use a small neodymium magnet, which essentially locks the mechanical stabilization of the phone. Google around and you’ll see why this is important information.
great video really appreciate it! drop some tags about warping/jello/jittering or something into the video description I think there are alot of people searching for this video after scooping the Zhiyun smooth Q and now noticing the annoying effect. Thanks for putting this together!
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I bought the Osmo Mobile and one of the key reasons was for motion time-lapses. Only issue is DJI Go has all your camera settings to auto which gives flicker in your time lapse as the white balance and ISO change. FilMicPro does not support motions time lapse as I found out after buying it :( Really hope they add it in the future so we can have motion time lapse with manual camera settings.
I saw another video that went over this "shake" when recording and even though the OIS is turned off, the actual lens doesn't stay locked when the phone is moved, there is still movement because the OIS can never fully be turned off. It was looked at in slo-mo and when touched, the camera lens still moves even when switched off.
you can lock the lens with a small magnet
I used a magnet from my Lifeproof box ;-) I had to adjust it so it did not affect my autofocus.
iPhone ois does not turn off when it says it is. The camera still moves in the housing. Check iphonedo’s osmo mobile demostration.
My iPhone 7 and Osmo Mobile work great together. I automatically bought and used Filmic Pro when I got my Osmo mobile due to its great reviews/recommendations. The only time my video was shaky was when I walked normally but when I used the proper technique that corrected the issue. Once again another great video!
+Zane Thanks Zane! Finally enjoying my Osmo Mobile with Filmic Pro, glad to hear you're using it too.
Billy Kyle thanks for this clarification! I've been testing it myself but this side to side comparison is king!
+E M T Thank you!
A great video, but massively in need of a re-do. How do these apps rate in 2019?
You have EIS (Electronic Image Stablization and OIC (Optical Image Stabilzation). The first you can switch off, but the second not.
The problem is when the OIS is turned off. When it’s turned on, the system is constantly sending an electrical signal based on the info from the gyro to the coils of wire in the stabilizer, locking the lens in a specific location that reflects what the gyro is reading. Because the lens is locked down by the electromagnets, it doesn’t jitter when shaken. On the contrary, OIS is disabled in the DJI app, and because of that, the lens is not locked down because the electromagnets are off, allowing it to float freely. You can test it yourself. Turn off the OIS in filmic pro, with another device to record the back of the iPhone 7 Plus at 240 FPS. When recording, use your finger and tap the side of the phone. You should see the lens wobble in the final footage. Do the same with OIS turned on, and you’ll notice it is much more stable
so if it isn't the iphone's built in optic stabilization, how come the jittering goes away when you use the 2x lens (that doesn't have optical stabilization?) Filmic pro OIS is built into the app, it doesnt actually turn it off on your iphone, so that is why you still get jittering regardless. switch it to 2x lens and it will work perfectly
Thank the lord - someone finally made a clear, concise and useful video on this subject! Much appreciated 👍🏼
The dji app now supports button functionality for the stock Camera app.
Yep that’s true I just found this out yesterday!
Just picked up the Osmo Mobile 2 and I'm experimenting with it now. It's an awesome tool for shooting B-Roll! Thanks for the app reviews.
Did you happen to take the osmo/iPhone 7 combo skiing with you? If you took any footage while skiing down the mountain I'm curious how you thought it performed?
+Andrew DeVries When I went skiing I used my Osmo Mobile with the GoPro using the rubber band trick. Didn't want to use my phone as the GoPro has a much wider field of view. I think it probably would have performed ok, but with the wind I feel as though it may have knocked it off calibration as the phone catches a lot of the wind when going down hill. Hope that made sense lol
That does make sense. Haha. At some point this winter I'm going to try it. Great videos by the way!
+Andrew DeVries Thanks Andrew! Would love to know how it worked.
Great video Billy Kyle!
+Paolo fromTOKYO Thank you!
Lock your Focus!!! AE/AF Lock to fix your jittering
How do you lock your focus?
Hold down a finger for 3 sec on a place where you want to focus.
I'm using FilmicPro and I have also seen lots of buttering when using the iphone7plus. However I have mostly shot with OIS off and looks like from ur comparison that having it on is better.
It definitely makes a difference having it on
Have you been able to export video from DJI GO app using iTunes? I tried and no video files found. I had to use the app to save to camera roll. That's annoying.
+Netcruzer I was in the same boat. The way that I did it was to go to iTunes and then click on the device you have plugged in. Go to the apps stored on the device and scroll down to file sharing. Once you click on the DJI Go app, look for the folder titled "video cache." Drag that to your computer and it should transfer all files stored on the DJI Go app. Hopefully that makes sense lol
Great work on it! Good comparison. Keep it going.
+Eric Chia Thanks Eric!
have you tried with the Pro Cam app? thoughts on it with the osmo mobile to get rid of that jittering? or still recommend FiLMiC Pro
+Allegiate Gym Haven't used that app, but you really can't go wrong with filmic pro. It's awesome
good looking out. your A/B comparisons with footage were super helpful.
Filmic while great is totally impractical because of battery usage.FILMIC ABSOLUTELY KILLS BATTERY dji is a pain in the ass because of the difficulty getting the files off. so after everything i use the native camera software.
Hmm, You should also try 'Movie Pro' as it has OFF, Standard, and Cinematic stability modes. Remember that there is OIS and EIS, and we never really know what the 'stability' options are doing regarding both of those. Up until now I was under the impression that the stability options in Filmic Pro or Movie Pro were for EIS only.
+Netcruzer I have seen plenty of other apps that can be good for the Osmo Mobile. I chose Filmic Pro just because of its Osmo compatibility and based on the good reviews I have read.
The 3 osmo control stick modes in Filmic Pro are nice features, but I would love to see them try to add ActiveTrack to Filmic. That is the best feature of DJI GO. Personally I like the UI of Movie Pro more, it is cheaper than Filmic, and has some features like pause rec, and cinematic stability not in Filmic.
+Netcruzer I can't even begin to tell you how much I hate the interface of Filmic Pro. It looks very outdated, but the functionality is still there.
Does the Google PlayStore for Note 8 have the DJI GO App/ All I can find is 2 for drones.Please help!
personally, I think anyone interested in flying a DJI drone for photography reasons should try the OSMO first... Best Buy offers an extended warranty on the OSMO for $75 (two years)... if you are heavy user, it might be worth it... not sure. thx for the comparison... I prefer to shoot video in the default OS X Photo App, as I don't like fiddling around the w/ share feature via a 3rd party environment. The Active Tracking Option is available in the DJI App, and that is super cool. The OSMO Mobile consumes a lot of battery juice... would be prudent to have a couple batteries on hand too. thx for the video of the App comparison...
+James Thomas Agreed it is cool, but I don't find myself using as often as other people
A tiny magnet over the corner of the phone where the ois sensor is solves the jitter and proving it is the ois causing the problems. I know it a little jerry rigish but hey it works great and will make youlike your gimble again. Good video by the way its what started my journey in fixing the jitter issue so thanks.
Super informative. One of the best videos I've come across discussing the issue of jittery video w/ IPhone7/+ & Osmo.
+Arh Jay Thanks!
@billykyle Can you use zoom with the regular camera?
The stock camera app? Yes
Zhiyun smooth gimbals have the same issue with their gimbal apps. They last update it about months ago with zero compatibility with other Android phones. As for third party apps to use with either gimbals...forget it. it's a very narrow selection. Either use the app that goes with the gimbal or don't waste your money.
That was extremely helpful. I have read pages and pages of forum threads about this OIS jiggering issue but your video cleared it up perfectly.
+Ben Tisdell Thanks Ben!
Any thoughts on the Filmic companion app “Filmic Remote”? I intend to place my OSMO 2 on a tall tripod/light stand and attempt to use active track for sports (I am fully aware this will probably fail miserably unless there is only a single subject in frame). The Filmic remote app allows you to use an iPad or other iOS device to remote control the app. My Osmo 2 arrives tomorrow and I’ll be giving it a shot asap. If active track doesn’t work well for my application, I may just use the remote app to control it like a pan/tilt head. I went through 2 different Soloshot 3 units and they just aren’t ready for prime time AT ALL. Figured I’d try this solution before reverting back to a traditional video camera and pan/tilt head. From everything I have read/watched, it certainly appears that while the OIS on iPhones is great for traditional uses, the floating nature of the mechanism doesn’t lend itself to gimbals very well (thus gimbal steadies the phone, but not the floating camera inside...OIS in combination with gimbal seem to be a multi-part solution...the gimbal corrects most of the shakes and the OIS continues to do it’s thing on the micro vibrations). A non-OIS system (in theory) should work better with a gimbal.. But I digress. Love your channel.
Dude, how did you get the track you used for your footage examples? I know the song is "Step out of your way" by Smiley, but I can't get the instrumental version of it, please, help me with this!
+Sergio Núñez look up 50's manhattan!
Billy Kyle, awesome!!! thank you so much!
+Sergio Núñez 👍🏼
Top notch video. This is the video to watch if you have the iPhone and Osmo Mobile. Thanks Billy!
do you have to calibrate the horizon in the DJI app each time you use the OSMO Mobile or do the internal sensors in iPhone take care of this?
Great informative video. Thanks for sharing.
One question though: is this jittering only a problem with the iPhone 7? I own a iPhone 6S and wonder if it has the same issues?
+Pieter van Dieren Thank you! And yes, the iPhone 7 is pretty much the only phone experiencing this.
On the Filmic App with the OSMU and iPhone 7+, why is "stabilization greyed out"? It is not selectable.
You are still seeing shaking because when you turn off OIS on iPhone 7 it's still kind of "on", by which I mean that it still rocks when it is hit with movement.
Really great, simple explanation of the best options. Thanks dude!
You got it!
So if OIS is not the root of the gittering, what could it be? Thank your for this awesome video, I want to buy a osmo mobile, but with an iphone 7+ this wobble problem is not what I expect from a stabilizer.
+chris_zueger Not too sure exactly what the problem is
chris_zueger The current wisdom and it seems reasonable is that it isn't s software setting. OIS on our off isn't the issue. The lenses are spring mounted. Software can't turn this off. The gimbal makes small changes very quickly. This causes the lens to move which causes jitter. Perhaps the rate of movement for the gimbal could be changed to help reduce this. This is a dji problem. There isn't a problem on the iPhone without OIS.
Te video is perforct thanks for your share.. when I watch the video the part of Filmic Pro with OIS on, I could'nt see your shadow on the floor.Could u have record the footage on 2x optic zoom, can u please inform, l am about to but buy Osmo, please help I use iphone 7 plus.
+Ercan lorus I think my camera was just looking straight for the Osmo shots as it was stabilized. When I was using it handheld, I was pointing the phone downwards a bit by accident.
Out of context question: I have iphone 6s for an year now. If I buy Filmic Pro now on iPhone 6s, would I be able to install the app on iPhone 7s or 8 when if I buy it later?
+Videos by KirtiRanjan Yes, as long as you use the same Apple ID
Thank you for the help. I have just ordered the Osmosis and have a 7+ and contemplating getting the filmic pro app. You have helped me make my mind up.
How can i use default camera with dji osmo mobile 3 because i need to make smooth slow motion videos
Any input on this same info for Android/Samsung Galaxy?
+LuXuper - The App for Car Enthusiasts Not for now. I don't own an android, although I know those two phones work better than the iPhone 7 due to comparability issues.
Understood, thanks for the reply!
+LuXuper - The App for Car Enthusiasts Of course
Does the osmo mobile on the iPhone 7 allow Bluetooth connection for audio via my Bluetooth headset ?
This probably seems like a pretty silly question, but how do you turn OIS on in Filmic Pro. I have an iPhone 7+ with an OSMO Mobile and Filmic Pro vs 6. I see "stabilization".
hi mate are u happy with the osmo should i buy one your thoughts
Hi, thank u for this useful review. I tried to switch on the OIS in FiLMiC pro but i cant because the application recognizes that I use the Osmo mobile. Do you know how to swith the OIS on in filmic pro?
Oh thank u, it works!
Hello Billy nice video. Anyways would like to ask if for DJI Osmo gimbal mobile 2 does it work with samsung s8 and iphone 6s? And can I just use the same app for the 2 phones whenever?
Hey Billy, u probably already answered this, but guess i am too tired to read through all the posts. I am a chef living in Costa Rica and thinking of starting a food vlog here. I use an iPhone 7 and just ordered for the osmo mobile, do you advise I buy the filmic pro app, or u think I could do well without. So sorry again for the bother, I am totally not a tech person, just looking at starting a new hobby. Bless
+David 'Boyejo oluneye Maybe give the stock camera app a try. If you feel that you need more manual control, the filmic app will be what you're looking for
Billy Kyle thanks a lot, I appreciate
+David 'Boyejo oluneye No problem David
+David 'Boyejo oluneye No problem David
hello, it is possible to use the osmo 2 with the app filmic pro also using an external microphone as an airpods?
From image stabilization point of view, is there any difference between the in stock Camera app and the Filmic Pro app (with OIS on) when using OSMO Mobile? Great test and analysis!
Thank you! I noticed that they both seem to look the same as both have OIS turned on, but you get a lot of features with the Filmic Pro app. If you don't want to spend the $10 the stock iOS camera app will be perfect.
OIS is always on. There is no way to turn it off as it is a mechanical feature built into the camera module, hence the term 'optical' image stabilization. Not even Apple can turn off OIS, unless they build in some type of mechanical brake or magnet to stop the mechanical OIS. The only stabilization that can be turned off using a third party app like FiLMiC Pro is the auto or cinematic stabilization which is software based and has nothing to do with OIS which again, is physically built into the camera module.
Very good job Kyle, I like it.
Thank you sir
Very helpful video. I recently purchased the Osmo Mobile and I've been using Filmic Pro with OIS turned off. I've been disappointed, and was ready to return the Osmo Mobile. I'll have to try it with OIS turned on. Thanks!
+Rich Barrett You're welcome!
So in other words, Using StockIphone App is the best "Free" option. Because it also has image stabilization turned on (by default)
+Jay Thompson Yeah you could say that.
Does it allow charging and shoot at the same time
+D.W. Fill it with No
Billy Kyle have to make sure I utilize my time wisely when shooting😐
+D.W. Fill it with That's correct
Thank you for the superb comparison video showing different modes and setting - best I've seen on YT! Very well executed by doing the same walk each time. I bought Filmic Pro, now I just have to get the DJI Osmo and try this out.
Cheers from Montréal :-)
The jittering must be in the gyro over-compensating, much like PID tuning in a flight controller. The big phones probably throw the balance out of whack and the gimbal motors may be just a little weak. Too bad because I have a 7+ and have been wanting an Osmo for months 🤔🤓
What are your thoughts on the Hero 5 Session? I'm thinking of grabbing one.
I love the form factor, but it might be hard to use with no screen. The camera also does not have as good of quality compared to the regular Hero 5
You dont have problems balancing your iphone 7 plus with the dji osmo mobile? Or are you doing some slight DIY stuff to balance it like i mostly see here in youtube.
Great! Does zoom works with time-lapse? Is the zoom available and programmable in motion time lapse or only for a time-lapse take?
One con I have about the DJI Go App is that it drains my iPhone 6s' battery incredibly fast. Which is why I lately have been using the iOS stock camera over the DJI Go App.
+Christopher Sullivan Same with me. Just make sure you have a backup battery bank!
Nice video, I use Samsung S7 edge with the Osmo Mobile, and get very stabile footage when filming normal. But I have noticed when filming timelapses, I get alot of gimbalmovement. Have you any experience or tricks to work around this?
+Austevik Dronefoto I haven't noticed anything about this. Are you making sure to take timelapses by placing the Osmo Mobile down rather than holding it? That is how you get the best results.
I use the tripod and the extension rod that I use, I find it more noticable the longer it takes for the timelapse. It looks ok on the mobile screen, but not if you want to use it in a clip on youtube. Its annoying to run everything through warp stabilizer pre-recording.
The best app I found for filming with the OSMO is PROCAM 5.
I don’t feel that filmic pro turns OIS completely
You helped me a lot! I was looking for a solution and already had that app and it are compatible with Osmo too!
That’s because nothing can turn OIS off, but I am hearing better things about Procam.
R. Alan Ingalls Isn’t that essentially the same thing? It’s not turned off, ie still and not moving?
Is there any app for DJI osmo mobile that is compatible with a GoPro hero 5?
You may be able to use the universal mount and put your phone off to the side and "trick" the osmo into thinking your phone is recording when you have the Hero in the actual gimbal. Just a thought.
Thx for video. Quality of your video is awesome! Can I ask you about your montage programm? Which do you use and what are render settings(resolution,codec,videobitrate,video fps,audiocodec)?
I use Final Cut Pro. All of the settings depend on what device I am shooting with.
Do you think with OSMO 2 coming out they will improve the software and make it backwards compatible with the OSMO 1 ?
The shadow of your head moves so smoothly. You are clearly on a segway
+Ryan Harris I'm not sure if this is supposed to be a joke or not lol
Billy Kyle I can’t tell either lol
Super nice and clear video! Is there the same problem with 6s plus?
Great comparison... Nice short video... to the point... really appreciate the work you put into it. Thanks
Very helpful video and info ! My gimbal should arrive within 30 minutes. Can't wait!
This app in UK is £14.99 now
can you write down about the name of 3 program that you show me, Thanks
Hi Billy, I noticed another con for the filmic pro app: my battery drains a lot Quicker Than in de dji go app. Do you have any experience with that? Thx
Very very helpful! Thanks. Have you tried using an external lens like "Moment lens" I want to add an external wide angle lens on my iPhone 7 plus, but I heard Osmo gimble can't handle the extra weight. Any suggestions? Thanks again.
DJI definitely needs to add a micro-adjustment feature for all three axis settings. So many different phone sizes and weights. Face tracking is impossible to use yourself. You need someone to set the tracking for you if you plan to leave the Osmo on a tripod or stand for Vlogs.
What about iphone 8? Any improvements?
Thanks Billy, it a great video. I believe you're right about the DJI Go app turning off the OIS per default. (I have a iPhone 7 Plus as well)
But I have a problem when you see spending 10 bucks on a very well developed and advanced piece of software (Filmic Pro) as a drawback. The team behind Filmic Pro are making a great effort and wants to make a living from it! I think you should re-think your attitude and recommending your peers to support Filmic Pro and actually buy the app instead.
+Thomas Hjorth I just am frustrated that DJI Go is not a go to solution. The app that comes with the device should be flawless. I myself have no problem spending $10 on a great application, but I know others will.
Sure, the DJI app could need som TLC. alternatively Active track would be awesome in Filmic Pro. It's one of main reasons I bought the Osmo Mobile
The OIS is not fighting the Osmo. The lens for the OIS is fitted on small springs and when the IS of the iPhone is turned off the lens bounces and creates the jittering effect.
Hi Billy, I just bought the osmo 2 and found that I cannot use it on my windows idol 4s mobile phone. Is there a windows app that I can use? Will be grateful for help.
this was a big problem for me.
I think i'm going to get the Filmic Pro app now that i now it will work
+Sanahas Kuranage I was shocked at how much better it looked. You get plenty of advanced controls as well, totally worth the $10.
Hi, i have problem with active tracking, it wasn’t working 😐 please help me
There is no way to turn off the OIS, not even apple can turn it off, as it is a mechanical feature built into the camera module. The only stabilization you can turn off with a third party app like FiLMiC pro is the auto or cinematic stabilization, which is software based and has nothing at all to do with OIS.
+Jade Sambrook Interesting. Either way it seems that you get better results with the filmic pro application
Yes, agreed, because FilMiC Pro is a kick ass app that is a total steal for the measly $12 they charge to buy it. The DJI Go has some neat features specific to the gimbal, and does the job, but is nowhere near equal to FiLMIC Pro.
+Jade Sambrook Agreed. Active track on the Osmo Mobile is not all that necessary
Very nice video. Good food for thought. Do you think there is any difference at all in the way the Osmo works with different apps. I don’t mean the recording I mean how fast it reacts etc? I take it that if you change the sensitivity from day Walk to Sport the effects are the same whatever app is then used?
With the newest firmware active tracking has been brought to Filmic Pro
+Jorge AF Interesting
Another great video...I have the Osmo Mobile and have been using the Filmic Pro app...
Even one of the DJI guys said on the DJI Forum that the Filmic Pro app is superior and should be used with the Osmo Mobile. Also like I can have an external mic using the Filmic Pro app
+Jeff Walrich Haven't used an external mic as I usually don't use the sound when I record using my Osmo Mobile. I love the filmic pro app as well, definitely worth the money.
Could you give me an answer: Dji supports Android or iOS, which is better?
Thanks for this detailed review, it honestly helped me out!
No problem!
I think the problem is that even when the camera stabilization is turned off the lens still floats in its housing, just tap the phone and look closely at the camera to see what I mean. If the lens was fixed when OIS was off that would probably fix it.
Jeff Vader Thats precisely what I think
Great video, thank you for the demos. Might pick up the Filmic Pro app at some point. For now, I'm sticking with the stock camera app and the OSMO combo and the DJI app/OSMO combo. I'm using a 6+ and the footage in the later combo seems much more stable that yours.
Well done Billy!
+Gabriel Craft Thanks!
did you make the detailed video you mentioned ???
They save to my camera roll on my Samsung S6 Edge when using the DJI app. I don't have to transfer anything over.
the problem is the mechanical spring that is used with the ois. Whether OIS is on or off, this mechanical spring can not be turned off and is the root cause of the jitter. Ask DJI, they will give the same answer.
+d3extreme Interesting. With the rest I did I noticed that the DJI Go app actually yields the worst results. The best apps to use are Filmic Pro and the stock iOS camera app.
+d3extreme Interesting. With the rest I did I noticed that the DJI Go app actually yields the worst results. The best apps to use are Filmic Pro and the stock iOS camera app.
How about filming with 60fps? As much as I like 4K having it on 30fps is so annoying. Which is why I prefer 1080p at 60fps. It’s so smooth
Has there been an update of the DJI app since you made this clip?
Now the Filmic Pro is 14,99 USD,
So what about ProMovie for 2,99 USD?
What about battery usage? I heard the DJI app is a drainage of battery time.
Great video! I'm assuming this works with the iPhone 6s as well?
Yes. All of them do
Isn't the jitter because the phone is too heavy? My 6s doesn't jitter.
Can u do a vs. With osmo mobile 2?
You’re a bit off on the iPhones IOS. It’s mechanical. You don’t turn it off. The workaround has been to use a small neodymium magnet, which essentially locks the mechanical stabilization of the phone. Google around and you’ll see why this is important information.
You persuaded me. Well done, clear, convincing.
great video really appreciate it! drop some tags about warping/jello/jittering or something into the video description I think there are alot of people searching for this video after scooping the Zhiyun smooth Q and now noticing the annoying effect. Thanks for putting this together!
+VaporSwift Media Of course!
How does the Osmo do with the iPhone 6s?