I remember being part of a project to implement a paperless office in the mid nineties, it failed. In the meantime we generated a Mount Everest of paper in reports, memos, policies and procedures, training manuals, and anything else you can think of to printout and copy. Ah those wee the days!
They seem to use more paper than ever. However, most people alive today weren't working in an office in the 1950s. A copy machine is nothing more than a scanner and laser printer in one. If you have both a scanner and laser printer, you can use it as a copier. Really, you could do it with a ink printer too, but it would be far too expensive. Ink printers are a horribly expensive way to print. They are cheaper up-front, but cost 10 times or more to operate. An ink-jet cartridge is like 25- 50 dollars and you *MIGHT* get a few hundred pages out of it under ideal use scenario. They dry out with or without use in a fairly short period of time. A toner cartridge runs more like a hundred dollars and is good forever until it runs out of toner and toner cartridges last from 2000-5000 pages.
@@tarstarkusz Yeah, it's kinda funny. "10 years ago there where a lot of predictions about the paperless office" - Tim Hunkin in 1993. And 28 years later, it still isn't a reality. Maybe by 2040...
@@tarstarkusz I have a Scanner/Copier/Inkjet Printer that I got in 2009 and it still works OK. Not that I do a lot of printing with it (about 100 pages a year). As for ink it depends where you buy it. If you pay full retail then the cost is horrendous but I get generic inks for about a third of the cost of retail.
@@kiwitrainguy You can get away with that with older printers. But even back in 2009, you couldn't get generic for many ink printers. Many of the ink cartridges have a page count chip which won't let you even refill a genuine cartridge. They're just a lot of hassle, especially if you want to do a lot of printing.
Tim and Rex not only described something so mundane and boring, but also so important with such ease. And that would be one thing if that was it, but Tim's social commentary and cartoons make this far more than an educational program. It's a perspective from a skeptic with a hugely great understanding of the minute BS we seem to forget runs our world. Tim's sense of humor is transcendent.
I had a job where i needed to clear out several pallets of old office equipment that was stored in a back corner of our warehouse. I was picking through it (and snagging some of the neater stuff for myself) and tossing stuff into a dumpster we were going to have hauled off for e-waste recycling. I got to the copiers and, well... I learned that color copiers have been around for longer than I thought and that it really doesn't take _that_ much energy to create a rainbow mushroom cloud in a tall warehouse with very still air.
I recently bought a copier, printer, fax, scanner for thirty dollars. My how things change. I am glad to have discovered this show. It would have been nice to see it in the day. Oh well better late than never.
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 Even though, the show aged really well. I began watching it just for fun, i didn't expect to find anything interesting in a 30 year old show (I'm from the 2000s). But hey, all this information is still really relevant these days.
@@rhodexa that but pinching skit would never go over today. To me it is very surprising just how much ink-jet printers have displaced low-end laser printers (which is all a copier really is along with a scanner). Ink is terrible and has a consumable cost of probably ten times a laser printer and they (toner cartridges) last forever without use. That is a big down-side to ink. They dry out with or without use. The toner cartridge in my laser printer is over 20 years old as is the printer. Even at 20 years old, the print looks better than any ink printer in B&W..
Laser printers still work exactly the same way & are still the only printer which doesn't dry out. The toner just costs a lot more than it used to. Maybe when we completely forget how to make toner like we forgot how to go to the moon, we'll go back to blue prints.
Wow, Super ironic that they are talking about a paperless offices and corona wires in the copiers When it took the corona virus to make some offices paperless or even the office itself obsolete
I used to work on a high speed laser printer back in the 80s. It worked just like a copier, except the image was drawn by a blue laser scanned across the photoreceptor by a rotating mirror. That beast could print 120 images/minute on both sides of the paper. Not many printers with their own removable disk drive and 9 track tape unit as well as a 2 horsepower drive motor and transmission. ;-)
That was probably the Xerox model, re engineered from the 9500 copier range. An absolute beast of a machine, ran on 3 phase electric, and had a target of 70k between service visits. Eventually superseded by the 1075/1090 range, which although were slower, were almost as productive, and could be plugged into a normal 13A supply with a domestic type plug (UK).
They found that the dust on the moon dances and floats up at the termination line between the dark and light surfaces as the moon rotates. This is because of the charge that the sun gives the dust interacting with the separate charge of the dark areas. Pretty cool to see it.
As part of basic training l was trained on the 1385 when I joined Rankxerox ,I even had too install one in new Scotland Yard when it was in Victoria street.
This brings back soooo many memories as I used to repair B&W and color photocopiers of every make and kind for 30 yrs! and yes they are designed to break after so many copies. (every part had a lifetime limit in number of copies) and they are much more dirty than working on cars. This video got the Xerographic process almost right except they left out the cleaning stage...and no mention of the bias voltage used on the photoconductor and developer. It also left out the fact that high speed photocopiers don't scan the original but flash it like a camera does and the photoconductor is a belt not a drum.
Trust me, you don't need dry conditions to have static. I carry around so much that I can turn street lights on and off, and I routinely set off anti-theft alarms at the library when I am entering the building- and I live in Florida.
January 2019, I just went to a courier office to receive a package, the guy there wrote everything on paper by hand and then made a copy, paper is still here even with ridiculously low prices in storage memory...
Fewer than 10 years ago I was still completing a paper timesheet, calculating deductions manually and drawing wages in cash each week. Two years ago the MD of one of my suppliers hand-wrote me a letter reminding me my account was over-due and could I please send them a cheque? I was a bit surprised but after I visited them last year I was surprised they'd sent the letter by post rather than mailcoach.
At one time the photocopy monopoly, Xerox, was worth more than the giant, General Motors, yet it had sold not a single a single photocopier. They were leased. If the pages counted were too few, they were removed. At four dollars a page, today's value. I colour copied material for my restaurant the day Xerox colour opened in my city with great success. Oh, had to use their copier paper.
We had a Kodak copier in school that just photographed the original and printed it but what was neat was the document feeder for multiple pages and could even come out stapled.
What a great show.....there were several British shows that were great back when cable was starting to go crazy and they need programming to fill 83 channels. Newer comments for such and old post.....interesting!!!
5:07 Umm, sir, behind you, are you expecting a copy, sir... it's just that... the pages are falling on the floor it will be such a bloody bother sorting them out again. Blimey. Nigel, could we put a basket underneath maybe?
When he said 10 years ago we were supposed to have a paperless office, so I went to the years ago and added making it 21 years ago, It is the end of 2022 so round up to 22. Right, in 2000 a paperless office. And Steve Jobs walked in and told his flunikes I want this paperless today and they scrambled to figure that out.
Allied POWs made copies of escape maps by placing a moistened original over a plate made from gelatin. The ink from the original transferred to the plate which was then used to make duplicates.
WOW the VOLUME the of these episodes is so much lower than the commercials, I can barely hear what this guy is saying, and then the commercial comes on and it's SCREAMING AT ME ... don't you know how to adjust the input volume when you digitize these shows and post them....?
These are great videos that I am just now viewing many years after their production. Having been in the UK I must ask you how you managed to be outside on a day that it was not raining? LOL Thanks for the videos. We are in the States and are anglophiles and quite enjoy your work. Best of luck!
I love thiseries but. Please please watch the Aisie show Utopia. I can help think the writers of the awesome sitcom took their name from Tim and Rexs show
Can Ayone help me? This show is great (not broadcasted in my country) bu´t i saw "PERSPECTIVE" (older) I want to know about the music of the intro..Thanks.
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view!" Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam." Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!" Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..." Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!" Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky." Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction." Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment?
The timing is right, and it does check boxes which might have interested him. I believe you might be more correct than not. This particular episode makes me think of Office Space after your observation. www.gofundme.com/f/lets-get-right-to-repair-passed
I work for an engineering company. We have no copier, no scanner and one B&W printer which rarely gets used. People read their documents on a tablet or laptop. I think that paperless office is nearly upon us if we can ween people off their Post-Its and logbooks.
@MichaelKingsfordGray Well, we are a semiconductor design company whose work is all based around CAD/EDA tools. If ever there was to be a power failure, a lack of documentation would be the last of our problems!
Copiers (in their present state) now have reached their "upper limit" of practicality, primarily because of user-friendliness and security issues, but these are only just two major "foiables" of today's copier systems I have identified and therefore, they need to advance to the next level...
This presentation has the soul that is missing from the photocopier industry itself.
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I remember being part of a project to implement a paperless office in the mid nineties, it failed. In the meantime we generated a Mount Everest of paper in reports, memos, policies and procedures, training manuals, and anything else you can think of to printout and copy. Ah those wee the days!
All the more reason for recycling those mountains.
They seem to use more paper than ever. However, most people alive today weren't working in an office in the 1950s.
A copy machine is nothing more than a scanner and laser printer in one. If you have both a scanner and laser printer, you can use it as a copier. Really, you could do it with a ink printer too, but it would be far too expensive. Ink printers are a horribly expensive way to print. They are cheaper up-front, but cost 10 times or more to operate. An ink-jet cartridge is like 25- 50 dollars and you *MIGHT* get a few hundred pages out of it under ideal use scenario. They dry out with or without use in a fairly short period of time. A toner cartridge runs more like a hundred dollars and is good forever until it runs out of toner and toner cartridges last from 2000-5000 pages.
@@tarstarkusz Yeah, it's kinda funny. "10 years ago there where a lot of predictions about the paperless office" - Tim Hunkin in 1993. And 28 years later, it still isn't a reality. Maybe by 2040...
@@tarstarkusz I have a Scanner/Copier/Inkjet Printer that I got in 2009 and it still works OK. Not that I do a lot of printing with it (about 100 pages a year). As for ink it depends where you buy it. If you pay full retail then the cost is horrendous but I get generic inks for about a third of the cost of retail.
@@kiwitrainguy You can get away with that with older printers. But even back in 2009, you couldn't get generic for many ink printers. Many of the ink cartridges have a page count chip which won't let you even refill a genuine cartridge. They're just a lot of hassle, especially if you want to do a lot of printing.
Oh, I had forgotten about this series. Absolutely loved it! Very happy to see them again.
360p, who cares. I just love these old stuff videos. So clearly explained a child could follow along. Great series. Coronawire. :)
Tim and Rex not only described something so mundane and boring, but also so important with such ease. And that would be one thing if that was it, but Tim's social commentary and cartoons make this far more than an educational program. It's a perspective from a skeptic with a hugely great understanding of the minute BS we seem to forget runs our world.
Tim's sense of humor is transcendent.
I think a lot of the appeal lies in Tim’s relaxing demeanor.
@@dewfall56 *demeanour
"go wrong at the time you need to copy something"
some things never change
The printers' tradition
And its a mystery that only God knows.
In the same way that the roof only leaks when it's raining.
I had a job where i needed to clear out several pallets of old office equipment that was stored in a back corner of our warehouse. I was picking through it (and snagging some of the neater stuff for myself) and tossing stuff into a dumpster we were going to have hauled off for e-waste recycling. I got to the copiers and, well... I learned that color copiers have been around for longer than I thought and that it really doesn't take _that_ much energy to create a rainbow mushroom cloud in a tall warehouse with very still air.
I recently bought a copier, printer, fax, scanner for thirty dollars. My how things change. I am glad to have discovered this show. It would have been nice to see it in the day. Oh well better late than never.
It was one of the only things worth watching on tv back in the late 80's early 90s. I love this show to this day.
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 Even though, the show aged really well.
I began watching it just for fun, i didn't expect to find anything interesting in a 30 year old show (I'm from the 2000s). But hey, all this information is still really relevant these days.
@@rhodexa that but pinching skit would never go over today.
To me it is very surprising just how much ink-jet printers have displaced low-end laser printers (which is all a copier really is along with a scanner). Ink is terrible and has a consumable cost of probably ten times a laser printer and they (toner cartridges) last forever without use. That is a big down-side to ink. They dry out with or without use. The toner cartridge in my laser printer is over 20 years old as is the printer. Even at 20 years old, the print looks better than any ink printer in B&W..
"A bit like a cookery program."
It makes it fun
Shout out from Rochester NY, the former home of Xerox!!! I LOVE nerding out with your vids!
I nerd out to this while nerding out all over my woman at the same time
I was a photocopier engineer, biggest problems with photocopiers
USER'S
I absolutely loved these programs.
The frustrations of copying and printing continue to this day
Laser printers still work exactly the same way & are still the only printer which doesn't dry out. The toner just costs a lot more than it used to. Maybe when we completely forget how to make toner like we forgot how to go to the moon, we'll go back to blue prints.
I was a copier tech for 30 years, I remember working on a few of those in the video like that Sharp SF770.
What an awsome historical film! Copiers were magic rattling boxes to me as a kid. Thanks for explaining!
So interesting! We looked all over for an explanation of *how* a mimeograph machine works, and finally found it here!
Brilliantly done in such a relaxed an interesting way - thank you
Wow,
Super ironic that they are talking about a paperless offices and corona wires in the copiers
When it took the corona virus to make some offices paperless or even the office itself obsolete
I used to work on a high speed laser printer back in the 80s. It worked just like a copier, except the image was drawn by a blue laser scanned across the photoreceptor by a rotating mirror. That beast could print 120 images/minute on both sides of the paper. Not many printers with their own removable disk drive and 9 track tape unit as well as a 2 horsepower drive motor and transmission. ;-)
Blue laser on the 80s? wow, im pretty sure it used an argon ion laser. Awesome, probably that machine used like 10kw to run!
That was probably the Xerox model, re engineered from the 9500 copier range. An absolute beast of a machine, ran on 3 phase electric, and had a target of 70k between service visits. Eventually superseded by the 1075/1090 range, which although were slower, were almost as productive, and could be plugged into a normal 13A supply with a domestic type plug (UK).
They found that the dust on the moon dances and floats up at the termination line between the dark and light surfaces as the moon rotates. This is because of the charge that the sun gives the dust interacting with the separate charge of the dark areas. Pretty cool to see it.
the best science series ever
As part of basic training l was trained on the 1385 when I joined
Rankxerox ,I even had too install one in new Scotland Yard when it was in Victoria street.
This brings back soooo many memories as I used to repair B&W and color photocopiers of every make and kind for 30 yrs! and yes they are designed to break after so many copies. (every part had a lifetime limit in number of copies)
and they are much more dirty than working on cars.
This video got the Xerographic process almost right except they left out the cleaning stage...and no mention of the bias voltage used on the photoconductor and developer.
It also left out the fact that high speed photocopiers don't scan the original but flash it like a camera does and the photoconductor is a belt not a drum.
After 30 years working on them I think I still have trace amounts of toner under my finger nails.
Trust me, you don't need dry conditions to have static. I carry around so much that I can turn street lights on and off, and I routinely set off anti-theft alarms at the library when I am entering the building- and I live in Florida.
Production cost and takes taken to explain these stuffs takes lot of time and money, tanx for educational video.
best documentaries in the universe.
I go as far back as the mimeograph and Gestetner.
Hearing Tim complain about "ozone" and "powder" 25 years years later is pretty funny.
@willyt_22 The second was just a photcopy
I loved this series. Watched it when it was on when I was 8-9
One of the best series ever!
January 2019, I just went to a courier office to receive a package, the guy there wrote everything on paper by hand and then made a copy, paper is still here even with ridiculously low prices in storage memory...
Fewer than 10 years ago I was still completing a paper timesheet, calculating deductions manually and drawing wages in cash each week. Two years ago the MD of one of my suppliers hand-wrote me a letter reminding me my account was over-due and could I please send them a cheque? I was a bit surprised but after I visited them last year I was surprised they'd sent the letter by post rather than mailcoach.
@MichaelKingsfordGray And more persistent.
At one time the photocopy monopoly, Xerox, was worth more than the giant, General Motors, yet it had sold not a single a single photocopier. They were leased. If the pages counted were too few, they were removed. At four dollars a page, today's value. I colour copied material for my restaurant the day Xerox colour opened in my city with great success. Oh, had to use their copier paper.
We had a Kodak copier in school that just photographed the original and printed it but what was neat was the document feeder for multiple pages and could even come out stapled.
What a great show.....there were several British shows that were great back when cable was starting to go crazy and they need programming to fill 83 channels. Newer comments for such and old post.....interesting!!!
Check out 'tim hunkin' on You Tube. His new series 'The Secret Life of Components' is great.
This is a really great series
Still waiting for that paperless office in 2021
Brilliant, some of the stuff about installations etc.. is so true
Really useful (and entertaining) for my students
20:50 An almost daily occurrence for me in1990 and those fights with that fkn infernal machine were the stuff of legends. lol
RIP Rex
!! a gem of an endearing show........
Back when TV was educational...
yes, well done, I was a Canon copier service man 1979, hawthorn, Melbourne Australia
Tim Hunkin, making copies. The Timanator. Tim-a.ronto! The Tim!
5:07 Umm, sir, behind you, are you expecting a copy, sir... it's just that... the pages are falling on the floor it will be such a bloody bother sorting them out again. Blimey. Nigel, could we put a basket underneath maybe?
What a difference just 30 years makes. Actually with color printers coming to the fore in the late 90s it was even less in terms of copiers.
A very informative programme.
12:08 old adds where weird
The Japanese is one don't suprise me, it's just like watching TikTok videos
I love this show when I was a kid
5:01 pedestrian electro-bastard ray activated
7 Copies a minute, wow!
12:10 lol that xerox ad aged like milk
Just For Asking but What was "Utopia Services" Back then?
Its a fictional company he uses to add humor and show how these devices changed office work.
My oh my do I remember that proclamation...The paperless office!!! I do foresee a time in the distant future when paper will become superfluous!!!
So nostalgia 😓😭
Her "Nine fourteen is a dry machine".. I don't believe that for a second, and neither does her boss.
I remember recording this whole series 30some years ago.
When he said 10 years ago we were supposed to have a paperless office, so I went to the years ago and added making it 21 years ago, It is the end of 2022 so round up to 22. Right, in 2000 a paperless office. And Steve Jobs walked in and told his flunikes I want this paperless today and they scrambled to figure that out.
Allied POWs made copies of escape maps by placing a moistened original over a plate made from gelatin. The ink from the original transferred to the plate which was then used to make duplicates.
It's a good thing that Bevis & Butthead weren't in that cartoon.
He would most assuredly sit on top the copier & make copies if his butt.
22:56 I presented the Van de Graff machine for a school project last summer
WOW the VOLUME the of these episodes is so much lower than the commercials, I can barely hear what this guy is saying, and then the commercial comes on and it's SCREAMING AT ME
... don't you know how to adjust the input volume when you digitize these shows and post them....?
These are great videos that I am just now viewing many years after their production. Having been in the UK I must ask you how you managed to be outside on a day that it was not raining? LOL Thanks for the videos. We are in the States and are anglophiles and quite enjoy your work. Best of luck!
3:00 I now understand why the pantents I have hanging above my bed are colored like this
What hasn't Rex built?
I love thiseries but. Please please watch the Aisie show Utopia. I can help think the writers of the awesome sitcom took their name from Tim and Rexs show
Do the shredder next
Can Ayone help me? This show is great (not broadcasted in my country) bu´t i saw "PERSPECTIVE" (older) I want to know about the music of the intro..Thanks.
It's an arrangement of dave brubeck's take five, hope that helps if you're still hoping for an answer after four years!
Val Bennett's The Russians are comming.
2:30 That's why the engendering's drawings are BLUE!! This is awesome!!
Yeah I've been wondering that for like 20 years, never cared to look it up tho :D well now I know.
That advert for the 914 would.....not fly today.
The best science program ever
RIP Rex.
the madman, cooking sulfur in his own home on the stove
Oooooh I found one that I did not watch yet!!!!! Unfortunately there are not enough episodes for my taste.
The man responsible for the not so paperless office.
What year is this from?
TIm's own site says 1992 so I'll trust him ;).
The SLOM website says 1993. (Season 3.)
(The video was uploaded in 2011. Originally broadcast 1993.)
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view!"
Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam."
Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!"
Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..."
Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!"
Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky."
Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction."
Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment?
Love the ska tune.
When TV tried to make You smarter....
@5:00 Haaa
Arghh! Be careful of the Arc lights without goggles, Tim! 2.33
"Whoops"... Broke the glass...
2:00 I god I HATED that when the secretary had to make actual blue prints at my last job. Stuff stinks to high heaven.
Brian would get fired instantly thees days.
Oh how the times have changed.
Idk how I got here but I love being here
17:29 , cannot make any video about tech stuff without a single reference about Japanese..:D
Looks like Mike Judge was inspired by these cartoons when he created Beavis and Butthead
The timing is right, and it does check boxes which might have interested him. I believe you might be more correct than not. This particular episode makes me think of Office Space after your observation.
www.gofundme.com/f/lets-get-right-to-repair-passed
I know that recently
if you dont do the car episode inside why the fk you doing office bs outside?
23:24 irony covid19 made the paper'less office come true
spent two hours of hw on this
😅 years of fighting my copier and I just now realized how to fix it for companies so it stops the dirt issue
But I ain’t helping those leaches
I work for an engineering company. We have no copier, no scanner and one B&W printer which rarely gets used. People read their documents on a tablet or laptop.
I think that paperless office is nearly upon us if we can ween people off their Post-Its and logbooks.
@MichaelKingsfordGray Well, we are a semiconductor design company whose work is all based around CAD/EDA tools. If ever there was to be a power failure, a lack of documentation would be the last of our problems!
Thinking is the new sexy. Well, no, alas, sexy is the new thinking, I'm afraid.
A new Secret Life Of Machines cell phones, 3d printers AI, etc.
Yes please
Rubbish technology that can't be understood, and certainly can't be salvaged....
Copiers (in their present state) now have reached their "upper limit" of practicality, primarily because of user-friendliness and security issues, but these are only just two major "foiables" of today's copier systems I have identified and therefore, they need to advance to the next level...
Lol the xerox add was incredibly sexist
"PC LOAD LETTER?"
Fa-mi-rii ko-pi-ya!!!
Hi this video is good how to come xerox machine in world i like it.............