As many people have pointed out, from the hip or at eye level as the situation demands. It doesn’t really matter, nor does what camera one uses; it’s the final picture that counts.
I'm deliberately obvious when doing street photography. I'll even wear T-shirt or baseball cap that says "Street Photographer" in bold letters. And under the cover of people who walks up to me to talk to me, I get shots of people walking by who are distracted by the group. More than a few times I've had a group follow me and it turned into an impromptu talk on street photography. Ironically, it turned into great advertising for my photography business. That said, I've never had anyone get irate or disturbed that I took their photograph. I've even had people I've photographed hire me for various photoshoots as a result.
@@dangilmore9724 Switzerland is the land of the data protection. The people are extremely suspicious here. When someone makes a picture they automatically assume it's to do wrong things with it.
Right! But that´s not what I mean by shooting from the hip here. Shooting from the hip to me is being completely unconscious what you are shooting...but yes, shooting with the flip screen from a lower position is what I really love to do.
Perfect summary. If your camera has a screen, it makes it very easy to shoot without getting into confrontations. You also end up getting much better shots.
i shoot street mostly from the hip for one reason and one reason only: at 191cm, i realized shooting at eye level just makes the subjects seem small/looking down on them(i shoot mostly 28mm) and I just didn't enjoy the look anymore as it takes away from the photos I feel.
All good advice, I think it’s better to be honest with people that you are taking a photo that they happen to be in. Sometimes they notice, sometimes they may even scowl at you, and sometimes they appreciate it and smile. Sometimes you can get gold by simply asking people whether you can take a photo.
Discovered this myself after a year or so of shooting from the hip with a 28mm. After switching back to a film autofocus SLR (and a 50mm or 85mm) for a photo workshop project, picking my shots, and using a wrist strap rather than a neck strap, my "keeper" rate is much higher. I've also started using a standard zoom, which makes composing at different distances much easier than standing in traffic. I've also started to use and love subject-detection autofocus and flippy screens when shooting with my digital camera. My comfort level has definitely increased. And it may just be psychological but carrying a camera in my hand vs. using a neck strap tends to keep people from noticing and the alert level down. I've also not experienced any negative interactions in my area (SF Bay Area), despite the bad press it gets.
I agree with you about hip shots, and ultimately you are avoiding just being more bold. Sometimes I just ask someone: " hey you look really cool, can I take your photo?" And most say yes, and are even open to following directions for the shot.
Definitely the best thing to talk to people. But depends where yoz are...in UK, most of Asia and US it works really good, but in France and Germany it's generally really hard...people are kind of suspicious
I have asked a few times, but 90% of the time I wouldn't. I prefer the more candid side of things. I feel asking on the street loses naturalness of the scene and then just becomes a posed portrait and theres not as much excitement in that.
I have just started trying street photography and have a camera with a tilting screen. It reminded me of my old TLR Mamiya and I found it very natural to use. You gave some useful tips. Thank you. Subscribed & liked.
I like the lower perspective from shooting from the hip but it's also easy to miss a lot of shots. It takes a lot of practice to get where you can point the camera and get things close to how you want it. And it does give it a different look because your composition isn't always perfect. Sometimes the picture is tilted. But I can see where it's better to use the EVF whenever possible. You'll have fewer wasted shots. Since most people know nothing about focal lengths, or what a telephoto lens looks like, if someone asks you if you're taking a picture of them you can always say you were photographing something behind them.
Somebody spotted me taking their picture from across the street through traffic and two layers of glass and steel. Country and culture make a big difference, in Venice I could basically take macro pictures of the people and no one was bothered in the slightest.
I don't know many street photographers who ONLY shoot from the hip to be honest - for me, sometimes it's the only way if the streets are heaving with 1000s of people. I think there is a role for stealthy "ninja style" street photography - sometimes you don't want to "bruise the scene" by having people react to you, sometimes you shoot Bruce Gilden style to deliberately get a response to you - I don't like the idea of shoulds/should nots with street - I think whatever works for you is OK - there are some brilliant street photographers who shoot using the LCD and sometimes from the hip - if it works, it works, if it doesn't, it doesn't, I'm not personally fond of suggesting there should be rules here
Using the rear LCD is quicker for accurate focusing as your subject appears considerably larger than in the tiny viewfinder; I also prefer the stealth approach as I don't want to be hassled, plus my subjects will appear natural in the photos. One technique I use is my iPhone to frame while my camera is on the side of my hip, with me facing 90 Degrees from my subject so that I am not facing them.
I agree the 'hit' might be lower shooting from the hip in general - but not necessarily with a flip screen - which has the obvious advantage of being non confrontational - you can get up close if you need to - get good composition and almost always people do not realize you are taking their photo and importantly do not react at all
I very rarely look at the screen or the viewfinder when shooting street. I look at what I am shooting with my eyes, and through practice, I know how to capture without disturbing the scene, particularly in the area where I live. Brixton, south London, tended to be quite edgy area when it comes to shooting street, particularly the types of things that I want to capture!… People will confront you here, because they think you are working with the police or the immigration service, and so can react quite hostilely… though it is slowly changing. Different communities of people have different opinions on street photography, and so for me it's more about not disturbing the scene, as my Brixton project is an on-going documentation which I add to every day. I don't want people to start avoiding me, or for people to suddenly strike a pose, when they see me coming, both of which has happened in a few cases… So to me, it all depends on what you want, and where you are. Telling people to stop doing it for me is wrong!… Each to their own!… It's art
Shooting from the hip is not my favorite method to do Street Photography like you can see in the video. In case you want to shoot from the hip, I recommend the following 5 cameras: Ricoh GR IIIx:The Ricoh GR IIIx stands out for its compact size, making it ideal for stealthy street photography. Its fast autofocus and excellent image quality ensure you capture those decisive moments effortlessly. Leica Q3: Known for its exceptional build quality and full-frame sensor, the Leica Q3 is a favorite among street photographers. Its discreet, silent shutter and quick response time make it perfect for shooting from the hip. Sony RX100 VII: The Sony RX100 VII offers an outstanding balance of portability and performance. With its fast autofocus system and impressive image stabilization, it's a reliable choice for capturing street scenes on the go. Fujifilm X100V: The Fujifilm X100V combines classic design with modern technology. Its fixed 23mm lens (35mm equivalent) and hybrid viewfinder make it a joy to use for street photography, especially when shooting from unconventional angles. Panasonic Lumix GX85: The Panasonic Lumix GX85 is praised for its super-fast autofocus and accurate performance in low light conditions. It's a versatile option for street photographers looking to shoot from the hip with ease. Happy hip shooting!
Your story holds the true only for film shooting.I shoot regulary from the hip using the app on my phone to compose and trigger the shutter.If you 2m long as me then you will probably attrack attention or your back will hurt by bending down all the time to snap the photo with VF.B.t.w this is where screen on an x-pro 3 is very handy.
Shooting upwards from the hip makes the subject look more powerful - dominant. Shooting downwards will make your subject more subservient to the world. It is all good, depending on a look which matches the scene. Eye level is fine, but after awhile having all the photos on the same even plane might make them more boring. But, then again, it should be subject and all the story within the frame which matters, and you might mess with that success and lose when using too much tilt, or shooting too low or high. The rule of odds, or using good negative space can come to the rescue of images otherwise still in search of art value. The 40mm works from many positions, and much like the 50mm, with less distortion penalty should the subject be nearer sides or you tilt the camera oddly. It is pretty forgiving. With skill and a whole lotta luck, one may be able to use tight lens to photograph without using a monitor or EVF, but like you noted, that success rate will take the hit, or should I say, the miss. Loren Schwiderski - street photography
I shoot all different ways 😂. It depends on my mood. I shoot from the hip a lot as that is the least anxiety inflicting method..... for me. I think we all master a degree of invisibility that suits our own personal anxiety risks. After all... there is no point in Street Photography if it causes stress. Hope all is well with you my friend. Take care..... Steve 😎📷👊👍👋👋
Good insights. I’m from the film era, so I never developed the habit of focusing through a tv screen (which is why I’m terrible with phone pix). Also, the way people use a camera in your video, I see awful neck & shoulder arthritis in their future, lol!
If you could equate street photography to a musical genre i would say it is equivalent to punk rock, i.e., anything goes! Shoot whatever style you wish. Dont let anyone tell you there are rules that you can't shoot from the hip because you can.You will miss a lot of shots in the time it takes to bring the camera to your eye making you conspicuous and if seen will change the actions of those in the scene you were going to shoot.
Manual primes is my answer to this problem. No autofocus = no monkey-shooting. You need to manually focus, manually frame, and manually zoom, getting closer or farther away from people. I use 100mm (at 1.4 crop) to gain some distance from people if you need it. Shooting in jpegs, additionally, makes you be more lighting-aware. This way you end up with less photos, less post-production and more satisfaction from the shots you consider great.
Aloha Meister..... 😉 Ich nach meine Fotos zu 95% mit dem Sucher. Die restlichen 5% sind meist "aus der Hüfte", aber nur, weil ich vielleicht die Kamera nicht schnell genug ausgerichtet bekomme. Ich hab einige "Momentaufnahmen", wo dann der EINE Moment vorbei ist, wenn ich die Kamera ans Auge bringe. Und ja, meist nutze ich den lautlosen Modus (wofür hat den meine E-M5/3 sonst? 🤔 😁). Grüße aus Berlin (Schweineöde) 🙃
Danke für deinen Kommentar! Ja, ich bin jetzt auch zu einem großen Teil mit dem Sucher unterwegs, fühlt sich einfach besser an. Hufte kann durchaus auch Spaß machen, ich hoffe das klingt hier nicht zu absolut...viele Grüße in die alte Heimat!
Oh you're in my country 😅. I think there's no right or wrong, and one can do both things for different situations. I shoot from the hip quite often, sometimes through the screen (depending on the camera im using), but most of the time i do it completly "blind". I feel I can have really intimate undesturbed photos I couldnt otherwise (even when using the screen people often notice it). Also if you go to the north where I live in more quiter towns you may find become agressive, be aware
Thank you for your feedback! Yes,every approach has its pros and cons...and i definitely plan to return to Portugal, thank you for the advice. Normally i shoot in a very inconspicouus way, this is sometimes different when doing a video...
My two main cameras for street photography are Leica Q2 Monochrom and Leica M11-P. Both don’t have tilting screens. That is why, sometimes I shoot with the Q2M from the hip. However, with the M11-P I have to compose the frame myself with zone focusing, which makes photography from the hip is difficult.
Still waiting for street photos, but so far I only see portraits. Will you show something that can make me travel there, instead of just humans I can see in my neighborhood? 🤔
Unfortunately my photographic style that I like is what we can call American, where there is little geometry, but more linked to the expressiveness of people and therefore I am forced to get very close to the subjects, entering everyday scenes and therefore unfortunately I do not have ninja techniques , but one thing I noticed is that it works and never looking people in the eye, before and after taking the shot, in this way, it doesn't confirm that we actually photographed them. They are still annoyed by my unusual behavior, but they rarely approach me to complain. Usually on a photo day, there may be a person who takes the initiative to protest and make me delete the photos. Initially this thing bothered me a lot, but I'm slowly getting used to it, in order to manage the situation better and apologize and delete the photo as soon as possible, and make sure to waste as little time as possible, to continue shooting, so let's say that the percentage is 1 in 100.
I don't know how this is regulated in other countries, but in Europe, thanks to the GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation), it is now completely forbidden to take a photo of someone without first asking their permission. It doesn't matter how I then want to use the picture, whether I publish it or not, even asking afterwards or even deleting the picture does not legalise the process, because the offence has already been committed when the shutter button is pressed. It is not even necessary for the person's face to be recognisable in order to be liable to prosecution. According to the relevant judgements, it is sufficient if, for example, friends or acquaintances can clearly recognise the person based on the location, the situation, the particular clothing or other factors. This is no longer about the right to one's own image as it used to be; that is only a downstream issue. The issue here is that personal data is collected without being asked and this applies to a digital image. Funnily enough, the same image captured on film with an analogue camera would not be punishable, as the data is not recorded digitally. So if you want to take street photography in Europe in accordance with the law and capture people in the city, you have to start by taking analogue photos. If you then want to publish the image somewhere, the second step is to ask the people depicted whether they agree to the planned use (print, internet platforms, advertising, exhibition, whatever) and ideally have them give their consent in writing. Ich weiß nicht wie das in anderen Ländern geregelt ist, in Europa ist es dank DSGV (Datenschutzgrubndverordnung) inzwischen komplett verboten ein Foto von jemandem zu machen, ohne ihn zuvor um Erlaubnis zu bitten. Dabei ist es auch völlig egal wie ich das Bild dann verwenden möchte, ob ich es veröffentliche oder nicht, selbst ein nachträgliches Fragen oder sogar das Löschen des Bildes legalisiert den Vorgang nicht, denn die Straftat ist bereits beim Drücken des Auslösers erfolgt. Es ist noch nicht mal erforderlich, dass das Gesicht der Person erkennbar ist um sich strafbar zu machen. Laut entsprechenden Urteilen genügt es wenn z. B. Freunde oder Bekannte, die Person anhand der Örtlichkeit, der Situation, der besonderen Kleidung oder sonstigem eindeutig erkennen können. Es geht hier nicht mehr wie früher um das recht am eigenen Bild, das ist erst eine nachgelagerte Frage. Hier geht es darum, dass personenbezogenen Daten ungefragt erhoben werden und dies trifft auf ein digitales Bild nunmal zu. Lustigerweise wäre das selbe bild, mit einer analogen Kamera, auf Film gebannt, nihct strafbar, da hier die Faten eben nicht digital erfasst werden. Wenn man also in Europa gesetzeskonform Streetfotografie betreiben möchte, die Menschen in der Stadt festhalten möchte, so muss also zuächst auf jeden Fall analog fotogrfaiere. Will man das Bild dann irgendwo veröffentlichen, muss man im zweiten Step die abgebidleten Personen fragen, ob sie der geplanten Verwendung (Print, Internetplattformen, Werbung, Ausstellung, what ever) zustimmen und sich das am besten auch nochg schriftlich geben lassen.
Hi! Ich schreibe mal auf Deutsch, da ich annehme dass du aus Deutschland bist. Das was du schreibst stimmt seit dem Urteil des Bundesverfassungsgericht von 2018 nicht mehr. Siehe z.B. www.rechtambild.de/2018/04/bundesverfassungsgericht-erkennt-street-photography-als-kunstform-an/ Es kommt immer auf den Einzelfall an. Meine Frau hat sich als Anwältin lange mit der DSGVO beschäftigt und die eine Norm kann immer die andere aushebeln, z.B.die Kunstfreiheit die DSGVO. Es gibt hier also nichts Absolutes. Aber klar, ungefragt Menschen zu fotografieren ist nicht immer eine gute Idee. Aber mehr möchte ich zum Thema Recht hier nicht schreiben. Viele Grüße Oliver
@@streetphotographyguy Hallo Oliver, ja ich bin aus Deutschland und hier wird das Thema wohl auch viel ernster genommen als in anderen Ländern. Da Du auf englisch hier postest und die Kommentare auf so gemcht werden, habe ich mich dem eben angepasst und werde auch diesen Post zweisprachig einstellen, damit auch andere hier mitlesen können. Auch ich bin kein Anwalt, aber dass dieser Fall, bei dem es ja um ein Foto einer Menschenmenge ging, das im Rahmen einer Kunstausstellung gezeigt wurde, ganz sicher nicht Milliarden von Handybildern und Videos legalisieren, die Menschen in besonderen, teilweise vielleicht sogar für den Betroffenen unangenehmen Situationen zeigen ist mir auch ohne juristische Ausbildung klar. Gleiches gilt leider auch für viele Fotografen. In Zeiten von Gesichtserkennung und KI im Internet ist es durchaus verständlich, wenn Menschen sich dagegen wehren immer und überall gefilmt oder fotografiert zu werden und sich dann irgendwo im Internet wiederzufinden. Dass die europäische DSGV dabei meiner Ansicht nach ein klein wenig übers Ziel hinausgeschossen ist ändert leider nichts an der Rechtslage. Den ungefragten Druck auf den Auslöser bereits unter Strafe zu stellen ist sicherlich übertrieben und das rechtliche Aus für "normale" Streetfotografie, denn wir sind nicht alle Künstler und können das durch Ausstellungen und teure Anwälte belegen. Meiner Ansicht nach hätte es gnügt, die ungefragte Veröffentlichung in welcher Form auch immer zu verbieten, also das Recht am eigenen Bild zu schützen. Der Streetfotograf könnte also eine interressante Szene durchaus legal und spontan festhalten, das Foto auch jederzeit für sich persönlich behalten und müsste lediglich vor einer Veröffentlichung die Fotografierten um Erlaubnis bitten, dem bei schönen Bildern sicherlich auch viele zustimmen würden. Wie auch immer, ich denke nur, dass den allermeisten gar nicht bewusst ist, wo genau der Gesetzesverstoß eigentlich anfängt und was im Extremfall auch für Strafen und ja, auch Schadenersatzansprüche drohen können, wenn jemand tatsächlich den Rechtsweg bestreitet. Liebe Grüße Ralf Hello Oliver, yes I am from Germany and the topic is probably taken much more seriously here than in other countries. Since you post here in English and the comments are made in English, I have adapted to this and will also make this post bilingual so that others can also read it here. I am not a lawyer either, but it is clear to me, even without legal training, that this case, which involved a photo of a crowd of people that was shown as part of an art exhibition, certainly does not legalise billions of mobile phone pictures and videos that show people in particular situations, some of which may even be unpleasant for the person concerned. Unfortunately, the same also applies to many photographers. In times of facial recognition and AI on the internet, it is perfectly understandable if people object to being filmed or photographed everywhere and at all times and then finding themselves somewhere on the internet. Unfortunately, the fact that the European GDPR has overshot the mark a little in my opinion does not change the legal situation. To criminalise the unsolicited pressing of the shutter button is certainly exaggerated and the legal end for "normal" street photography, because we are not all artists and can prove this through exhibitions and expensive lawyers. In my opinion, it would have been enough to prohibit unsolicited publication in any form whatsoever, i.e. to protect the right to one's own image. The street photographer could therefore capture an interesting scene legally and spontaneously, keep the photo for himself at any time and would only have to ask the people photographed for permission before publishing it, which many would certainly agree to if the pictures were beautiful. However, I just think that the vast majority of people don't realise where exactly the violation of the law actually begins and what penalties and yes, even claims for damages can threaten in extreme cases if someone actually takes legal action. Kind regards Ralf
personally, I have been taking photos since 1963, and street photography since 1970, I have a principle I take the photo directly, even if the person sees me, it was none of my business I press the button and I do it photo, I never hide, and I have taken photos all over the world. At the moment, I am in Asia in Asia which is good because people are delighted. When you take a photo of them, they even smile, I know there are photographers who take photos from the hip personally I don't agree, either you take the photo directly or you stay at home
Here in The Netherlands it works like this: one is allowed to shoot a whole street wide in a general direction. One is NOT allowed to zoom a particular individual person, because this infringes on his or her portrait rights and privacy. A security camera in a privately owned business on private property is an other story, for that's up to the owner of the private place. One is officialy never allowed to publish a portrait without legal consent of the ownwer of the face. I would get angry with you if you would shoot me individually without my permission. It is like breaking into my individual house without asking for permission to enter. Great that everybody has a camera (smartphone) these days. Great that I still have my rights as should be.
That is just not true. You can make photographs of everything in the public space. There are just exceptions under the guise of ‘redelijk belang’. This is in the most extreme cases up to a judge to decide.
@@Adogcallednoortje I guess you didn’t read it correctly. You may take pictures in wide angle or general direction in the public space and publish those. But you are not allowed to focus a persons face in the public space. After that there is a difference between firstly taking a picture and secondly publishing a picture. At the other end, the second mentioned part here, the end of publishing people: they have their portrait rights. The exception is when your face is necessary for a news story that is of interest for the entire society for “algemeen belang” or broad societal interest. You have to be able to proof that in court to a judge should you persist in publishing someone’s cropped in/zoomed in face without their consent. Or… you just respect people’s portret rights in the first place. And politely ask for permission.
@@Adogcallednoortje This is why on music festivals you agree to let your portret rights go, or wave your portrait rights , so that they are allowed to publish you for their promotion. You have agreed in advance to that. Because otherwise you would still have your portrait rights as in normal public life.
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As many people have pointed out, from the hip or at eye level as the situation demands. It doesn’t really matter, nor does what camera one uses; it’s the final picture that counts.
So true ! Thanks for your feedback!
I'm deliberately obvious when doing street photography. I'll even wear T-shirt or baseball cap that says "Street Photographer" in bold letters. And under the cover of people who walks up to me to talk to me, I get shots of people walking by who are distracted by the group. More than a few times I've had a group follow me and it turned into an impromptu talk on street photography. Ironically, it turned into great advertising for my photography business. That said, I've never had anyone get irate or disturbed that I took their photograph. I've even had people I've photographed hire me for various photoshoots as a result.
That´s a fantastic idea! Damn, I need that shirt ;-)
It doesn't work everywhere. I don't know where you live, but if you try that here in Switzerland... You will have a bad time.
@@vinztheoriginal From what I understand, street photography is so restricted in Switzerland so as to make it impossible.
@@dangilmore9724 Switzerland is the land of the data protection. The people are extremely suspicious here. When someone makes a picture they automatically assume it's to do wrong things with it.
@@dangilmore9724Germany as well
Newsflash: You can take a hip shot using a camera with a rear flip up screen. This allows a precise composition with a stealth approach.
Right! But that´s not what I mean by shooting from the hip here. Shooting from the hip to me is being completely unconscious what you are shooting...but yes, shooting with the flip screen from a lower position is what I really love to do.
It's true but you can hold a camera more steadily when it's at eye level...
Perfect summary. If your camera has a screen, it makes it very easy to shoot without getting into confrontations. You also end up getting much better shots.
Thank you for your kind feedback!
i shoot street mostly from the hip for one reason and one reason only: at 191cm, i realized shooting at eye level just makes the subjects seem small/looking down on them(i shoot mostly 28mm) and I just didn't enjoy the look anymore as it takes away from the photos I feel.
Same here.
All good advice, I think it’s better to be honest with people that you are taking a photo that they happen to be in. Sometimes they notice, sometimes they may even scowl at you, and sometimes they appreciate it and smile. Sometimes you can get gold by simply asking people whether you can take a photo.
Discovered this myself after a year or so of shooting from the hip with a 28mm. After switching back to a film autofocus SLR (and a 50mm or 85mm) for a photo workshop project, picking my shots, and using a wrist strap rather than a neck strap, my "keeper" rate is much higher. I've also started using a standard zoom, which makes composing at different distances much easier than standing in traffic. I've also started to use and love subject-detection autofocus and flippy screens when shooting with my digital camera.
My comfort level has definitely increased. And it may just be psychological but carrying a camera in my hand vs. using a neck strap tends to keep people from noticing and the alert level down. I've also not experienced any negative interactions in my area (SF Bay Area), despite the bad press it gets.
I agree with you about hip shots, and ultimately you are avoiding just being more bold. Sometimes I just ask someone: " hey you look really cool, can I take your photo?" And most say yes, and are even open to following directions for the shot.
Definitely the best thing to talk to people. But depends where yoz are...in UK, most of Asia and US it works really good, but in France and Germany it's generally really hard...people are kind of suspicious
I have asked a few times, but 90% of the time I wouldn't. I prefer the more candid side of things. I feel asking on the street loses naturalness of the scene and then just becomes a posed portrait and theres not as much excitement in that.
Rod: it's different for sure. But sometimes I just meet very interesting people on the street and even posed shots are potentially wonderful.
I have just started trying street photography and have a camera with a tilting screen. It reminded me of my old TLR Mamiya and I found it very natural to use.
You gave some useful tips. Thank you. Subscribed & liked.
I like the lower perspective from shooting from the hip but it's also easy to miss a lot of shots. It takes a lot of practice to get where you can point the camera and get things close to how you want it. And it does give it a different look because your composition isn't always perfect. Sometimes the picture is tilted. But I can see where it's better to use the EVF whenever possible. You'll have fewer wasted shots. Since most people know nothing about focal lengths, or what a telephoto lens looks like, if someone asks you if you're taking a picture of them you can always say you were photographing something behind them.
Somebody spotted me taking their picture from across the street through traffic and two layers of glass and steel. Country and culture make a big difference, in Venice I could basically take macro pictures of the people and no one was bothered in the slightest.
Thanks for teaching us some valuable tips or methods! When I do street, I suffer a lot. Now it seems easier. Thanks
I've been taking photos in that way for a while and honestly the results are very interesting
I don't know many street photographers who ONLY shoot from the hip to be honest - for me, sometimes it's the only way if the streets are heaving with 1000s of people. I think there is a role for stealthy "ninja style" street photography - sometimes you don't want to "bruise the scene" by having people react to you, sometimes you shoot Bruce Gilden style to deliberately get a response to you - I don't like the idea of shoulds/should nots with street - I think whatever works for you is OK - there are some brilliant street photographers who shoot using the LCD and sometimes from the hip - if it works, it works, if it doesn't, it doesn't, I'm not personally fond of suggesting there should be rules here
Using the rear LCD is quicker for accurate focusing as your subject appears considerably larger than in the tiny viewfinder; I also prefer the stealth approach as I don't want to be hassled, plus my subjects will appear natural in the photos. One technique I use is my iPhone to frame while my camera is on the side of my hip, with me facing 90 Degrees from my subject so that I am not facing them.
I agree the 'hit' might be lower shooting from the hip in general - but not necessarily with a flip screen - which has the obvious advantage of being non confrontational - you can get up close if you need to - get good composition and almost always people do not realize you are taking their photo and importantly do not react at all
I really appreciate the street photo channel with Korean subtitles
You're welcome! Hope it helps
And German Subtitles
I very rarely look at the screen or the viewfinder when shooting street. I look at what I am shooting with my eyes, and through practice, I know how to capture without disturbing the scene, particularly in the area where I live. Brixton, south London, tended to be quite edgy area when it comes to shooting street, particularly the types of things that I want to capture!… People will confront you here, because they think you are working with the police or the immigration service, and so can react quite hostilely… though it is slowly changing. Different communities of people have different opinions on street photography, and so for me it's more about not disturbing the scene, as my Brixton project is an on-going documentation which I add to every day. I don't want people to start avoiding me, or for people to suddenly strike a pose, when they see me coming, both of which has happened in a few cases… So to me, it all depends on what you want, and where you are. Telling people to stop doing it for me is wrong!… Each to their own!… It's art
Интересное видео. Спасибо
Shooting from the hip is not my favorite method to do Street Photography like you can see in the video. In case you want to shoot from the hip, I recommend the following 5 cameras:
Ricoh GR IIIx:The Ricoh GR IIIx stands out for its compact size, making it ideal for stealthy street photography. Its fast autofocus and excellent image quality ensure you capture those decisive moments effortlessly.
Leica Q3: Known for its exceptional build quality and full-frame sensor, the Leica Q3 is a favorite among street photographers. Its discreet, silent shutter and quick response time make it perfect for shooting from the hip.
Sony RX100 VII: The Sony RX100 VII offers an outstanding balance of portability and performance. With its fast autofocus system and impressive image stabilization, it's a reliable choice for capturing street scenes on the go.
Fujifilm X100V: The Fujifilm X100V combines classic design with modern technology. Its fixed 23mm lens (35mm equivalent) and hybrid viewfinder make it a joy to use for street photography, especially when shooting from unconventional angles.
Panasonic Lumix GX85: The Panasonic Lumix GX85 is praised for its super-fast autofocus and accurate performance in low light conditions. It's a versatile option for street photographers looking to shoot from the hip with ease.
Happy hip shooting!
Your story holds the true only for film shooting.I shoot regulary from the hip using the app on my phone to compose and trigger the shutter.If you 2m long as me then you will probably attrack attention or your back will hurt by bending down all the time to snap the photo with VF.B.t.w this is where screen on an x-pro 3 is very handy.
Shooting upwards from the hip makes the subject look more powerful - dominant. Shooting downwards will make your subject more subservient to the world. It is all good, depending on a look which matches the scene. Eye level is fine, but after awhile having all the photos on the same even plane might make them more boring. But, then again, it should be subject and all the story within the frame which matters, and you might mess with that success and lose when using too much tilt, or shooting too low or high. The rule of odds, or using good negative space can come to the rescue of images otherwise still in search of art value. The 40mm works from many positions, and much like the 50mm, with less distortion penalty should the subject be nearer sides or you tilt the camera oddly. It is pretty forgiving. With skill and a whole lotta luck, one may be able to use tight lens to photograph without using a monitor or EVF, but like you noted, that success rate will take the hit, or should I say, the miss. Loren Schwiderski - street photography
Since i have fully articulated display, I can take hip shots from right angle (90 deg.) to the taken scene. :-)
I shoot all different ways 😂. It depends on my mood. I shoot from the hip a lot as that is the least anxiety inflicting method..... for me. I think we all master a degree of invisibility that suits our own personal anxiety risks. After all... there is no point in Street Photography if it causes stress.
Hope all is well with you my friend. Take care..... Steve 😎📷👊👍👋👋
Hi Steve! Thank you so much for your feedback! You are right, there are hip- and viwfinder days, it all depends on your mood...cheers mate!
Good insights. I’m from the film era, so I never developed the habit of focusing through a tv screen (which is why I’m terrible with phone pix). Also, the way people use a camera in your video, I see awful neck & shoulder arthritis in their future, lol!
If you could equate street photography to a musical genre i would say it is equivalent to punk rock, i.e., anything goes! Shoot whatever style you wish. Dont let anyone tell you there are rules that you can't shoot from the hip because you can.You will miss a lot of shots in the time it takes to bring the camera to your eye making you conspicuous and if seen will change the actions of those in the scene you were going to shoot.
How did you get so beautiful color(film style) of you photos? Some Lightroom preset?
@@RecluseNotes This is mainly Classic Chrome in the Fuji x100v with some minor adjustments in Lightroom. Cheers!
Truly great photos to be honest.
Manual primes is my answer to this problem. No autofocus = no monkey-shooting. You need to manually focus, manually frame, and manually zoom, getting closer or farther away from people. I use 100mm (at 1.4 crop) to gain some distance from people if you need it. Shooting in jpegs, additionally, makes you be more lighting-aware. This way you end up with less photos, less post-production and more satisfaction from the shots you consider great.
Aloha Meister..... 😉
Ich nach meine Fotos zu 95% mit dem Sucher. Die restlichen 5% sind meist "aus der Hüfte", aber nur, weil ich vielleicht die Kamera nicht schnell genug ausgerichtet bekomme. Ich hab einige "Momentaufnahmen", wo dann der EINE Moment vorbei ist, wenn ich die Kamera ans Auge bringe.
Und ja, meist nutze ich den lautlosen Modus (wofür hat den meine E-M5/3 sonst? 🤔 😁).
Grüße aus Berlin (Schweineöde) 🙃
Danke für deinen Kommentar! Ja, ich bin jetzt auch zu einem großen Teil mit dem Sucher unterwegs, fühlt sich einfach besser an. Hufte kann durchaus auch Spaß machen, ich hoffe das klingt hier nicht zu absolut...viele Grüße in die alte Heimat!
You help a lot .one question please what camera you have in video;
Hi! Thanks for the positive feedback. I am using the Fuji x100v. Cheers!
Oh you're in my country 😅. I think there's no right or wrong, and one can do both things for different situations. I shoot from the hip quite often, sometimes through the screen (depending on the camera im using), but most of the time i do it completly "blind". I feel I can have really intimate undesturbed photos I couldnt otherwise (even when using the screen people often notice it). Also if you go to the north where I live in more quiter towns you may find become agressive, be aware
Thank you for your feedback! Yes,every approach has its pros and cons...and i definitely plan to return to Portugal, thank you for the advice. Normally i shoot in a very inconspicouus way, this is sometimes different when doing a video...
My two main cameras for street photography are Leica Q2 Monochrom and Leica M11-P. Both don’t have tilting screens. That is why, sometimes I shoot with the Q2M from the hip. However, with the M11-P I have to compose the frame myself with zone focusing, which makes photography from the hip is difficult.
Right now i switch to 90mm and i try to get one roll with one theme ;3
90mm sounds pretty interesting for Street! Nice
Every which way that suits the moment.
Still waiting for street photos, but so far I only see portraits. Will you show something that can make me travel there, instead of just humans I can see in my neighborhood? 🤔
Unfortunately my photographic style that I like is what we can call American, where there is little geometry, but more linked to the expressiveness of people and therefore I am forced to get very close to the subjects, entering everyday scenes and therefore unfortunately I do not have ninja techniques , but one thing I noticed is that it works and never looking people in the eye, before and after taking the shot, in this way, it doesn't confirm that we actually photographed them. They are still annoyed by my unusual behavior, but they rarely approach me to complain. Usually on a photo day, there may be a person who takes the initiative to protest and make me delete the photos. Initially this thing bothered me a lot, but I'm slowly getting used to it, in order to manage the situation better and apologize and delete the photo as soon as possible, and make sure to waste as little time as possible, to continue shooting, so let's say that the percentage is 1 in 100.
Супер, я тоже так делаю....
Obviamente si disparas desde la cadera es porque tú cámara tiene pantalla abatible y estás viendo la escena.
I will not stop
I don't know how this is regulated in other countries, but in Europe, thanks to the GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation), it is now completely forbidden to take a photo of someone without first asking their permission. It doesn't matter how I then want to use the picture, whether I publish it or not, even asking afterwards or even deleting the picture does not legalise the process, because the offence has already been committed when the shutter button is pressed. It is not even necessary for the person's face to be recognisable in order to be liable to prosecution. According to the relevant judgements, it is sufficient if, for example, friends or acquaintances can clearly recognise the person based on the location, the situation, the particular clothing or other factors. This is no longer about the right to one's own image as it used to be; that is only a downstream issue. The issue here is that personal data is collected without being asked and this applies to a digital image. Funnily enough, the same image captured on film with an analogue camera would not be punishable, as the data is not recorded digitally. So if you want to take street photography in Europe in accordance with the law and capture people in the city, you have to start by taking analogue photos. If you then want to publish the image somewhere, the second step is to ask the people depicted whether they agree to the planned use (print, internet platforms, advertising, exhibition, whatever) and ideally have them give their consent in writing.
Ich weiß nicht wie das in anderen Ländern geregelt ist, in Europa ist es dank DSGV (Datenschutzgrubndverordnung) inzwischen komplett verboten ein Foto von jemandem zu machen, ohne ihn zuvor um Erlaubnis zu bitten. Dabei ist es auch völlig egal wie ich das Bild dann verwenden möchte, ob ich es veröffentliche oder nicht, selbst ein nachträgliches Fragen oder sogar das Löschen des Bildes legalisiert den Vorgang nicht, denn die Straftat ist bereits beim Drücken des Auslösers erfolgt. Es ist noch nicht mal erforderlich, dass das Gesicht der Person erkennbar ist um sich strafbar zu machen. Laut entsprechenden Urteilen genügt es wenn z. B. Freunde oder Bekannte, die Person anhand der Örtlichkeit, der Situation, der besonderen Kleidung oder sonstigem eindeutig erkennen können. Es geht hier nicht mehr wie früher um das recht am eigenen Bild, das ist erst eine nachgelagerte Frage. Hier geht es darum, dass personenbezogenen Daten ungefragt erhoben werden und dies trifft auf ein digitales Bild nunmal zu. Lustigerweise wäre das selbe bild, mit einer analogen Kamera, auf Film gebannt, nihct strafbar, da hier die Faten eben nicht digital erfasst werden. Wenn man also in Europa gesetzeskonform Streetfotografie betreiben möchte, die Menschen in der Stadt festhalten möchte, so muss also zuächst auf jeden Fall analog fotogrfaiere. Will man das Bild dann irgendwo veröffentlichen, muss man im zweiten Step die abgebidleten Personen fragen, ob sie der geplanten Verwendung (Print, Internetplattformen, Werbung, Ausstellung, what ever) zustimmen und sich das am besten auch nochg schriftlich geben lassen.
Hi! Ich schreibe mal auf Deutsch, da ich annehme dass du aus Deutschland bist. Das was du schreibst stimmt seit dem Urteil des Bundesverfassungsgericht von 2018 nicht mehr. Siehe z.B. www.rechtambild.de/2018/04/bundesverfassungsgericht-erkennt-street-photography-als-kunstform-an/ Es kommt immer auf den Einzelfall an. Meine Frau hat sich als Anwältin lange mit der DSGVO beschäftigt und die eine Norm kann immer die andere aushebeln, z.B.die Kunstfreiheit die DSGVO. Es gibt hier also nichts Absolutes. Aber klar, ungefragt Menschen zu fotografieren ist nicht immer eine gute Idee. Aber mehr möchte ich zum Thema Recht hier nicht schreiben. Viele Grüße Oliver
@@streetphotographyguy Hallo Oliver, ja ich bin aus Deutschland und hier wird das Thema wohl auch viel ernster genommen als in anderen Ländern. Da Du auf englisch hier postest und die Kommentare auf so gemcht werden, habe ich mich dem eben angepasst und werde auch diesen Post zweisprachig einstellen, damit auch andere hier mitlesen können. Auch ich bin kein Anwalt, aber dass dieser Fall, bei dem es ja um ein Foto einer Menschenmenge ging, das im Rahmen einer Kunstausstellung gezeigt wurde, ganz sicher nicht Milliarden von Handybildern und Videos legalisieren, die Menschen in besonderen, teilweise vielleicht sogar für den Betroffenen unangenehmen Situationen zeigen ist mir auch ohne juristische Ausbildung klar. Gleiches gilt leider auch für viele Fotografen. In Zeiten von Gesichtserkennung und KI im Internet ist es durchaus verständlich, wenn Menschen sich dagegen wehren immer und überall gefilmt oder fotografiert zu werden und sich dann irgendwo im Internet wiederzufinden. Dass die europäische DSGV dabei meiner Ansicht nach ein klein wenig übers Ziel hinausgeschossen ist ändert leider nichts an der Rechtslage. Den ungefragten Druck auf den Auslöser bereits unter Strafe zu stellen ist sicherlich übertrieben und das rechtliche Aus für "normale" Streetfotografie, denn wir sind nicht alle Künstler und können das durch Ausstellungen und teure Anwälte belegen. Meiner Ansicht nach hätte es gnügt, die ungefragte Veröffentlichung in welcher Form auch immer zu verbieten, also das Recht am eigenen Bild zu schützen. Der Streetfotograf könnte also eine interressante Szene durchaus legal und spontan festhalten, das Foto auch jederzeit für sich persönlich behalten und müsste lediglich vor einer Veröffentlichung die Fotografierten um Erlaubnis bitten, dem bei schönen Bildern sicherlich auch viele zustimmen würden. Wie auch immer, ich denke nur, dass den allermeisten gar nicht bewusst ist, wo genau der Gesetzesverstoß eigentlich anfängt und was im Extremfall auch für Strafen und ja, auch Schadenersatzansprüche drohen können, wenn jemand tatsächlich den Rechtsweg bestreitet. Liebe Grüße Ralf
Hello Oliver, yes I am from Germany and the topic is probably taken much more seriously here than in other countries. Since you post here in English and the comments are made in English, I have adapted to this and will also make this post bilingual so that others can also read it here. I am not a lawyer either, but it is clear to me, even without legal training, that this case, which involved a photo of a crowd of people that was shown as part of an art exhibition, certainly does not legalise billions of mobile phone pictures and videos that show people in particular situations, some of which may even be unpleasant for the person concerned. Unfortunately, the same also applies to many photographers. In times of facial recognition and AI on the internet, it is perfectly understandable if people object to being filmed or photographed everywhere and at all times and then finding themselves somewhere on the internet. Unfortunately, the fact that the European GDPR has overshot the mark a little in my opinion does not change the legal situation. To criminalise the unsolicited pressing of the shutter button is certainly exaggerated and the legal end for "normal" street photography, because we are not all artists and can prove this through exhibitions and expensive lawyers. In my opinion, it would have been enough to prohibit unsolicited publication in any form whatsoever, i.e. to protect the right to one's own image. The street photographer could therefore capture an interesting scene legally and spontaneously, keep the photo for himself at any time and would only have to ask the people photographed for permission before publishing it, which many would certainly agree to if the pictures were beautiful. However, I just think that the vast majority of people don't realise where exactly the violation of the law actually begins and what penalties and yes, even claims for damages can threaten in extreme cases if someone actually takes legal action. Kind regards Ralf
how old are you ?
Why? 🧐😁
personally, I have been taking photos since 1963, and street photography since 1970, I have a principle I take the photo directly, even if the person sees me, it was none of my business I press the button and I do it photo, I never hide, and I have taken photos all over the world. At the moment, I am in Asia in Asia which is good because people are delighted. When you take a photo of them, they even smile, I know there are photographers who take photos from the hip personally I don't agree, either you take the photo directly or you stay at home
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Stop making videos that start with "STOP" :)
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Here in The Netherlands it works like this: one is allowed to shoot a whole street wide in a general direction. One is NOT allowed to zoom a particular individual person, because this infringes on his or her portrait rights and privacy. A security camera in a privately owned business on private property is an other story, for that's up to the owner of the private place. One is officialy never allowed to publish a portrait without legal consent of the ownwer of the face. I would get angry with you if you would shoot me individually without my permission. It is like breaking into my individual house without asking for permission to enter. Great that everybody has a camera (smartphone) these days. Great that I still have my rights as should be.
That is just not true. You can make photographs of everything in the public space. There are just exceptions under the guise of ‘redelijk belang’. This is in the most extreme cases up to a judge to decide.
@@Adogcallednoortje I guess you didn’t read it correctly. You may take pictures in wide angle or general direction in the public space and publish those. But you are not allowed to focus a persons face in the public space. After that there is a difference between firstly taking a picture and secondly publishing a picture. At the other end, the second mentioned part here, the end of publishing people: they have their portrait rights. The exception is when your face is necessary for a news story that is of interest for the entire society for “algemeen belang” or broad societal interest. You have to be able to proof that in court to a judge should you persist in publishing someone’s cropped in/zoomed in face without their consent. Or… you just respect people’s portret rights in the first place. And politely ask for permission.
@@Adogcallednoortje This is why on music festivals you agree to let your portret rights go, or wave your portrait rights , so that they are allowed to publish you for their promotion. You have agreed in advance to that. Because otherwise you would still have your portrait rights as in normal public life.
I’m German but don’t like German accent. I lived in Manchester for a while and luckily mine is gone. 😂🤣😂
So happy for you!
Photography is framing and composition. It's different from just pressing the button.