So in Vince's mind, being a superjacked beef show should be all that is necessary to get over with an audience, and it has absolutely nothing to do with things like talent, skill, dedication, and charisma? Goddamnit, Vince. Have you learned NOTHING after running this business for decades?
v b Personally I like Daniel Bryan although I would of had Orton or even Batista win that match at Wrestlemania , think about the reaction it would of gotten and you can't tell me people wouldn't have watched Raw the next night.
I'm old enough to remember the Lex Express angle. A friend of mine saw Yokozuna get slammed on the Intrepid. Despite all the people mocking it now, it was totally over at the time. Vince totally screwed up the angle by deciding that Luger wouldn't win the title at Summerslam, thinking instead that he could push it till the 1994 Wrestlemania. Luger won by countout and was celebrating like a moron. This not only killed interest in the angle and Luger, but a lot of people who grew up watching the WWF were sick of the screw job endings. This led to a lot of people tuning out and the mid-90's doldrums starting until things picked up again due to the NWO and the Attitude era.
Back in 2003 I worked in the Starbucks in Times Square and there was a weird old guy on the corner of 45th Street and Broadway by WWE NY who set up shop and sold rare Yu-Gi-Oh! cards. I loved walking by the WWE to and from work and would often get the rarest and coolest cards from said guy. That dude sold me a 1st edition Dark Paladin and a secret rare Dark Magician girl together for $25. Good times. .....what were we talking about?
The last one is perfect of how clueless Vince is. The smaller, scrapy indie wrestlers are more popular today than then. The fact he had to call a meeting to understand why Batista was being booed and just said "But just look at Batista" show how put of touch he is.
SportsSciOtaku 7 to say Vince was never in touch with pro wrestling is just absurd. Look at how he turned WWE from a regional promotion to an international and widely recognized promotion proves otherwise. The last decade has proven however Vince McMahon has lost touch and needs to retire.
@@multiyapples Agreed. However, even if Vince retired control would most likely go to Stephanie McMahon. I somehow doubt she would be any better than her father.
Vince ignores when guys are getting over organically, buries them, and then complains that there are no big draws like the rock and hulk hogan in the new roster anymore.
THANK YOU! This is why he proceeds to bring back part timers constantly. He even claimed that it's hard to get new talent over. How out of touch is this old man?
Punk's wrestling style mixes some moderate high flying with muay thai and mat based catch wrestling and jujitsu. It's those catch/jujitsu and muay thai elements that they mean when they say "mma style"
Prince Aligorna well that “mma style” that everyone talking about clearly got to his head cus yes he knew some jujitsu take downs and basking kickboxer kicks and striking combinations But he wasn’t fully train for it you can tell that mma wasn’t his thing and all that got to his head and made him think he can actually get down with real fighters with real practice
Don't get me wrong. I really dig CM. Punk. Especially the Best In The World Cult Of Personality Punk. But now I feel like he is troll. He trolls WWE and he also trolls us. I'm burnt out with him. I think he is just a jerk that likes to push everybody's button.🤷
The 2010 recruitment wasn't him swallowing his pride, it's what he does. Poached from territories Poached from WCW Poached from the indies He will do the same with AEW
Problem is, WWE is increasingly becoming a location wrestlers don't want to work in regardless of the money Vince is willing to throw at them. Going to WWE means the likelihood of their careers coming to a stuttering halt increases dramatically.
thats not true at all. majority is wrestler still want to work with wwe just ask UK talent. who wouldnt want to work with the most popular and biggest wrestling promotion in the world, they all want money
Gotta love the idea that even Batista knew what was gonna happen whem he returned and fought against it. Love when the talent can see what the boss cant.
You forgot about the rise of Kofi. Vince swallowed his pride there too. Put the title on an actual workhorse instead of his normal big beefy boy with looks and no talent he loves so much
What I think is interesting about Vince, is that when he has gotten his own creations over, he tends not to push them to the top. Ryback was getting over in 2012, and Vince refused to pull the trigger on him. Same with Braun. He finally won the Universal title at WM36, but it felt too little to late by that point. Unless your name is Rollins, Reigns, or Lesnar, there is no guarantee that you will get pushed.
Poor Vince just doesn’t understand that he’s not in control of the times. The times control itself, and he refused to change along with it for years. He’s also a man who refuses to even consider the idea that he’s wrong on ANYTHING. Call it him becoming increasingly senile if you want, I’d probably agree with you because it keeps getting worse. He has a “creative team” but he still calls all the shots many times against the advice of the team. So many wrestlers were buried or at the cusp of getting buried because they weren’t the guy Vince wanted, despite the pleas of the masses telling him they are their guy.
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Do I have to watch every single Raw and Smackdown for the year before WrestleMania XXX? I didn't watch WWE from 2003-2018 and watched WrestleMania XXX because of all the talk and I just do not see it. I felt nothing when Bryan won it. He was not in the match for most of it. He did the Royal Rumble thing where he disappeared to the outside for a long time (When did this become a thing, BTW? When Seth won it I had completely forgotten he was even still in it).
"His hand up Micheal Cole's backside." Oh this is funny. This is a short expose on how a 1940s born man found success in the 80s and had to be dragged kicking and screaming into 2020.
People love to shit all over CM Punk for whatever reason but they fail to realize he and Daniel Bryan are the reason we have indie stars like AJ Styles, Adam Cole, Ricochet, Kieth Lee, etc in the company now. Those two paved the way for this to be a possibility.
kofi kingston becoming WWE champion in 2019 should be on here. Kofi kingston was the first fULLY BLACK WWE Champion and fans were behind him during his performance replacing mustafa ali. I believe the original plan was daniel bryan vs kevin owens but kofi was on fire and millions including me were behind him to win the belt. i dont think vince wanted that but had to swallow his pride to let kofi win or he was going to prove he was racist due to history.
Nobody wanted Kofi as champion. He is an Intercontinental Champ talent at best. Hell back in the late 90s/early 2000s he prolly wouldve peaked as European Champ. He never deserved to be champ. Sure he can have a title shot on RAW, but not win it. So dumb letting him win it.
This just makes me hate Goldberg even more... so he gets to bury today’s talent when he wrestled one year before quitting and getting booed out of the building, then didn’t wrestle for a decade to come back and get whatever he wants... because he was good for WCW 🤔 gotta thank the part time fans for ruining today’s product by being the only ones interested in seeing him, then bitch about “how it’s just not the same anymore”. Thanks again.
Josh Kerr that’s all Vince’s fault tho. Well him and creative. When Goldberg came to the wwe they didn’t use the same formula that wcw did when they had him. Goldberg is good at going out and destroying his opponent in 30 seconds. Vince didn’t get that memo or just didn’t want to do things that way until he brought him back a decade later. At which point it’s too late. Vince was never going to put wcw stars over his home grown wwf stars.
@C Weezy it’s not Vince’s fault that fans of wrestling from the 80s or the Monday night wars are the only people interested in seeing him. So that when ratings dip, he has to appeal to the worst fans, part time fans. It’s not Vince’s fault entirely, I’d blame the fans that watch wrestling part-time more because they’re too stuck in the past and blinded by nostalgia to give today’s wrestlers a chance.
So your freaking out over a adam we know you cant own a butter knife there, but a sword is mild for things americans own, do you have a permit for that spoon
It don’t matter, it’s like those guys literally wait for the guy to make mistakes so they can talk shit, we love wrestling because of him, there really is no reason for the shows to be like it was back then, there’s no competition
You guys have ZERO idea of what Vince goes through, his business dealings, how the company works, how much money they have wrapped up in different things. You guys love to bash Vince but if it wasnt for him you wouldnt even have wrestling to watch. Without the WWE and Vince no other company would be able to start and get TV deals this day in age. Anyone who non stops bashing Vince is an idiot.... They do so much good for children's hospitals and local communities in almost every state. They donate tons of money to charities and do many things they are not obligated to do...
Daniel Bryan didn't look right as world champion and him making a huge 6ft4 Batista tap out looked so fake and unrealistic. Not everybody is ment to be world champion sorry.
@v b Daniel Bryan is heavily train in BJJ, Muay Thai and submission wrestling (legit not scripted wrestling ) He would murder almost every WWE heavyweight in a octogon or real life fight
@@ryanwilliams4561 the reason he lost the title was Vince is homoerotically in love with the worst champion of all time Brock"Gimme Money"Lesnar. Kofi actually wrestled and Brock was sitting home collecting an undeserved paycheck. Not to mention Brock was an illegitimate contender. Showed up at MITB and stole the briefcase in a match he wasnt even in
"But just *look* at Batista!" Vince ... omfg whats wrong with you
A lot of things is wrong with Vince
I believe Jim Cornette said once a Psychiatrist Can get rich trying to analyze Vince.
@@_.El._ A psychiatrist could go mad trying to figure him out.
Sounds like Vince alright LOL
So in Vince's mind, being a superjacked beef show should be all that is necessary to get over with an audience, and it has absolutely nothing to do with things like talent, skill, dedication, and charisma? Goddamnit, Vince. Have you learned NOTHING after running this business for decades?
Vince got everything
*Laughs in XFL*
'Just look at batista" lol bro batistas time was between 2005 and 2010 he had his solid main event run
I cannot believe that was Vince’s argument 🤦♂️
No doubt about it we all love batista. Hell of a wrestler and actor. But that was his time. His days of being the champ at that point were over.
v b ur drunk
v b Personally I like Daniel Bryan although I would of had Orton or even Batista win that match at Wrestlemania , think about the reaction it would of gotten and you can't tell me people wouldn't have watched Raw the next night.
@shopsurges Are you implying more people watched Raw or Wrestlemania because Bryan won?
1:59 SuperShowdown
4:03 VII not XII
More botches in this video than a Nia Jax match..........
Liked your comment but only two botches in a Nia match is wishful thinking
No wonder they're losing subs
ooh
"WRESTLEMANIA SEVEN"
wrestlemania XII, Great math👍🏻
"The Luger Bus"... It was the LEX EXPRESS. Show some respect.😆
I'm old enough to remember the Lex Express angle. A friend of mine saw Yokozuna get slammed on the Intrepid. Despite all the people mocking it now, it was totally over at the time. Vince totally screwed up the angle by deciding that Luger wouldn't win the title at Summerslam, thinking instead that he could push it till the 1994 Wrestlemania. Luger won by countout and was celebrating like a moron. This not only killed interest in the angle and Luger, but a lot of people who grew up watching the WWF were sick of the screw job endings. This led to a lot of people tuning out and the mid-90's doldrums starting until things picked up again due to the NWO and the Attitude era.
4:05 ummm that says WrestleMania 12 not WrestleMania 7...
Wrestlemania 12 was great
beat me to it - XII =12 - VII = 7
WWF New York sounded awesome. Wish it was still around
Back in 2003 I worked in the Starbucks in Times Square and there was a weird old guy on the corner of 45th Street and Broadway by WWE NY who set up shop and sold rare Yu-Gi-Oh! cards. I loved walking by the WWE to and from work and would often get the rarest and coolest cards from said guy. That dude sold me a 1st edition Dark Paladin and a secret rare Dark Magician girl together for $25.
Good times.
.....what were we talking about?
Ha! Seeing Vince forced into something he doesn't want to do is immensely satisfying
Number 1 the success of the wrestler (2008) good movie
Bringing back Bret Hart in 2010.
10:20 wow they had to put Randy's arm's to batista🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
maybe they just have the same tattoo. an Evolution tattoo. ^^
Lol check again🤣🤣🤣
LOL NICE EDITING
The last one is perfect of how clueless Vince is. The smaller, scrapy indie wrestlers are more popular today than then. The fact he had to call a meeting to understand why Batista was being booed and just said "But just look at Batista" show how put of touch he is.
SportsSciOtaku 7 to say Vince was never in touch with pro wrestling is just absurd. Look at how he turned WWE from a regional promotion to an international and widely recognized promotion proves otherwise. The last decade has proven however Vince McMahon has lost touch and needs to retire.
@@multiyapples Agreed. However, even if Vince retired control would most likely go to Stephanie McMahon. I somehow doubt she would be any better than her father.
He has never had to swallow his pride. He just changed what he first planned as it became apparent that more money would be made another way.
Vince is a genius....occasionally but he’s undoubtedly in need of being replaced
I swear WhatCulture is the only WWE channel that shits on the Invasion angle lol
The first brand split was an awesome idea that suffered from horrible execution. The second brand split was exactly the same.
Vince ignores when guys are getting over organically, buries them, and then complains that there are no big draws like the rock and hulk hogan in the new roster anymore.
THANK YOU! This is why he proceeds to bring back part timers constantly. He even claimed that it's hard to get new talent over. How out of touch is this old man?
I wonder what made Batista want to return in 2014 as a heel?
3:52 "Warning, What you are about to see is Obnoxious." That's rich coming from a man that thought making a wrestling match with God was a good idea.
love when he gets humbled
Made him humble like Iron Sheik.
It should happen more often.
Cm punk “mma style”😭 0-2 he didn’t Have any style 😂
Punk's wrestling style mixes some moderate high flying with muay thai and mat based catch wrestling and jujitsu. It's those catch/jujitsu and muay thai elements that they mean when they say "mma style"
Prince Aligorna well that “mma style” that everyone talking about clearly got to his head cus yes he knew some jujitsu take downs and basking kickboxer kicks and striking combinations But he wasn’t fully train for it you can tell that mma wasn’t his thing and all that got to his head and made him think he can actually get down with real fighters with real practice
Don't get me wrong. I really dig CM. Punk. Especially the Best In The World Cult Of Personality Punk. But now I feel like he is troll. He trolls WWE and he also trolls us. I'm burnt out with him. I think he is just a jerk that likes to push everybody's button.🤷
Did anyone else notice the incorrect number for Wrestlemania VII? They actually placed Wrestlemania XII instead of VII!!! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
The 2010 recruitment wasn't him swallowing his pride, it's what he does.
Poached from territories
Poached from WCW
Poached from the indies
He will do the same with AEW
Problem is, WWE is increasingly becoming a location wrestlers don't want to work in regardless of the money Vince is willing to throw at them. Going to WWE means the likelihood of their careers coming to a stuttering halt increases dramatically.
@@orionassante3386 I rather go to WWE than the minor leagues of wrestling
@@Fourmath 😃😃
@@francescobuadu8912 just speaking the truth
thats not true at all. majority is wrestler still want to work with wwe just ask UK talent. who wouldnt want to work with the most popular and biggest wrestling promotion in the world, they all want money
Gotta love the idea that even Batista knew what was gonna happen whem he returned and fought against it. Love when the talent can see what the boss cant.
The ribs at WWF New York were pretty damned good.
Does anyone have a link where I can download that map at 0.09?
Upboat for the "B+ player" reference.
*Daniel Bryan is a gem.* Most over guy in the company.
I don't think Vince calls his Little McMahon "My Pride", so the title is very SFW.
Vince may have swallowed more than pride 10 times 🤣
You forgot about the rise of Kofi. Vince swallowed his pride there too. Put the title on an actual workhorse instead of his normal big beefy boy with looks and no talent he loves so much
lol Brock Lesnar has no talent even though he has a great gimmick. Next ur gonna tell me Johnny Gargano is the best wrestler ever LOLOL
The champions before that were Daniel bryan aj styles jinder mahal randy orton bray wyatt and John cena none of those guys weren't work horses
v b I know hatred when I see it
@@elliottpenick8118 Daniel Bryan and Aj Styles not workhouse ? What have you smoked they are litterally the 2 best in ring worker in the company
@v b guess what: nobody gives a shit about your pointless opinion😂
What I think is interesting about Vince, is that when he has gotten his own creations over, he tends not to push them to the top. Ryback was getting over in 2012, and Vince refused to pull the trigger on him. Same with Braun. He finally won the Universal title at WM36, but it felt too little to late by that point. Unless your name is Rollins, Reigns, or Lesnar, there is no guarantee that you will get pushed.
Deebow you forgot the last name flair and Becky
Missed it by that much as far as Wrestlemania getting cancelled goes
One thing that's good about AEW's success is it has a chance to make Vince care about the fans again
but ... just ... look at Roman!
I don't know why but I would like to see Michael Cole and Tony Schiovanie together on commentary
You can skip the first 2:04.
Saying he gets what he wants in the end after mentioning the stephanie pregnant angle concerns me
4:06 that's wm 12 bro
Ok
Poor Vince just doesn’t understand that he’s not in control of the times. The times control itself, and he refused to change along with it for years. He’s also a man who refuses to even consider the idea that he’s wrong on ANYTHING. Call it him becoming increasingly senile if you want, I’d probably agree with you because it keeps getting worse. He has a “creative team” but he still calls all the shots many times against the advice of the team.
So many wrestlers were buried or at the cusp of getting buried because they weren’t the guy Vince wanted, despite the pleas of the masses telling him they are their guy.
Why are you ranting no on cares
Kayden Loggins it’s the Internet. That’s what you’re supposed to do 😂😂
@@konnorrockkonnoisseur4970 lmao
Howdy from Indy!!!
Lmao all these WWE apologists making excuses. "Its business." "You'd do the same thing!"
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Yeah I was out after the lottery. Splitting up the hardys and the Dudley's was a mistake
10 times Vince swallowed cena and reigns
Thank god Bryan was over despite the booking💪💪💪💪💪💪
But...just...look at Batista??? This MF right here.....lmao
Do I have to watch every single Raw and Smackdown for the year before WrestleMania XXX? I didn't watch WWE from 2003-2018 and watched WrestleMania XXX because of all the talk and I just do not see it. I felt nothing when Bryan won it. He was not in the match for most of it. He did the Royal Rumble thing where he disappeared to the outside for a long time (When did this become a thing, BTW? When Seth won it I had completely forgotten he was even still in it).
"His hand up Micheal Cole's backside." Oh this is funny.
This is a short expose on how a 1940s born man found success in the 80s and had to be dragged kicking and screaming into 2020.
Franz Styles ur point? And it’s not “men” it’s Vince
Vince didn't swallow his pride with Daniel Bryan in his kind he legitimately believes he's the reason Bryan got over with his storytelling
That shit was part of da plan da whole time
People love to shit all over CM Punk for whatever reason but they fail to realize he and Daniel Bryan are the reason we have indie stars like AJ Styles, Adam Cole, Ricochet, Kieth Lee, etc in the company now. Those two paved the way for this to be a possibility.
"Hope it comes out before wrestlemania gets cancelled"
Bout that...
It didn't?
Number 1: The XFL
Someone had one job! Wrong Roman numeral! XII = 12
Nobody:
WhatCulture: Another Negative Vince Video
Really breaking new ground guys
I like how everyone shits on vince but I wonder how many know he is a character just like any other wrestler. Hes supposed to be a bad guy lol
Caustic Cactus Nah he’s legitimately made many bad decisions
Yes in kayfabe but not in real life
WRESTLEMANIA VII...
spelled as XII
Roman Reigns missing. He tried to force him on us and he had to concede, because we rejected him so hard. Then and now btw
Roman is still WWE top guy
Pls push murphy
Little fucked up the work they are running right now with Drake Maverick "firing"
So nobody’s going to talk about Andy being conned out of $25 for a mixtape?
I'm not surprised.
Wrestlemania XII "7". Graphic not quite, 12 was fine
Yeerrrrrrrs of experience
kofi kingston becoming WWE champion in 2019 should be on here. Kofi kingston was the first fULLY BLACK WWE Champion and fans were behind him during his performance replacing mustafa ali. I believe the original plan was daniel bryan vs kevin owens but kofi was on fire and millions including me were behind him to win the belt. i dont think vince wanted that but had to swallow his pride to let kofi win or he was going to prove he was racist due to history.
Nobody wanted Kofi as champion. He is an Intercontinental Champ talent at best. Hell back in the late 90s/early 2000s he prolly wouldve peaked as European Champ. He never deserved to be champ. Sure he can have a title shot on RAW, but not win it. So dumb letting him win it.
@@DR.K14 speak for yourself. The crowd was behind kofi on the way to mania and at mania
U had Bret hart, Shawn Michaels, the Undertaker... And u look for Lex Luger.... Vince being dumb....
Tight
But look at Bastia
This just makes me hate Goldberg even more... so he gets to bury today’s talent when he wrestled one year before quitting and getting booed out of the building, then didn’t wrestle for a decade to come back and get whatever he wants... because he was good for WCW 🤔
gotta thank the part time fans for ruining today’s product by being the only ones interested in seeing him, then bitch about “how it’s just not the same anymore”. Thanks again.
Josh Kerr that’s all Vince’s fault tho. Well him and creative. When Goldberg came to the wwe they didn’t use the same formula that wcw did when they had him. Goldberg is good at going out and destroying his opponent in 30 seconds. Vince didn’t get that memo or just didn’t want to do things that way until he brought him back a decade later. At which point it’s too late. Vince was never going to put wcw stars over his home grown wwf stars.
@C Weezy it’s not Vince’s fault that fans of wrestling from the 80s or the Monday night wars are the only people interested in seeing him. So that when ratings dip, he has to appeal to the worst fans, part time fans. It’s not Vince’s fault entirely, I’d blame the fans that watch wrestling part-time more because they’re too stuck in the past and blinded by nostalgia to give today’s wrestlers a chance.
So 12=7?
Daniel Bryan brought me back to wrestling
😂😂😂😂😂
Okay
Hi
So your freaking out over a adam we know you cant own a butter knife there, but a sword is mild for things americans own, do you have a permit for that spoon
Karma will get him.
Good god I REALLY hate the super smiley picture of Adam Cleary. It's used on almost every vid he hosts. It urks me for some reason.
Here y’all go, tryna make Vince look bad to get views🤦🏽♂️, YALL LAME
To be fair, all that was said about Vince isn’t inaccurate
It don’t matter, it’s like those guys literally wait for the guy to make mistakes so they can talk shit, we love wrestling because of him, there really is no reason for the shows to be like it was back then, there’s no competition
RAW VS SMACKDOWN was soooo dumb!
Wait hold on, Andy Murray got hustled out of $25 for some rappers mixtape? Lmfaooooo Andy gotta hold a major L for that😂
i just want vince gone. over it.
Vince Mamahon knows nothing about wrestling...
Lol this video is botched
Please learn to pronounce "year". It's not "yeah"
You guys have ZERO idea of what Vince goes through, his business dealings, how the company works, how much money they have wrapped up in different things. You guys love to bash Vince but if it wasnt for him you wouldnt even have wrestling to watch. Without the WWE and Vince no other company would be able to start and get TV deals this day in age. Anyone who non stops bashing Vince is an idiot.... They do so much good for children's hospitals and local communities in almost every state. They donate tons of money to charities and do many things they are not obligated to do...
Jeez man do you need a hug lol
Hope he sees this bro
Daniel Bryan didn't look right as world champion and him making a huge 6ft4 Batista tap out looked so fake and unrealistic. Not everybody is ment to be world champion sorry.
The funny thing is Daniel Bryan would probably easily beat Batista in real life fight
@v b Daniel Bryan is heavily train in BJJ, Muay Thai and submission wrestling (legit not scripted wrestling )
He would murder almost every WWE heavyweight in a octogon or real life fight
Vince never should’ve swallowed his pride on letting Kofi Kingston win the wwe title at mania. Kofi was one of the worst wwe champions of all time.
This is the dumbest comment I've read all day.
Charm City Gamer besides his fued with Orton, his run was horrible. There’s a reason he lost the title to Brock in 5 seconds.
@@ryanwilliams4561 the reason he lost the title was Vince is homoerotically in love with the worst champion of all time Brock"Gimme Money"Lesnar. Kofi actually wrestled and Brock was sitting home collecting an undeserved paycheck. Not to mention Brock was an illegitimate contender. Showed up at MITB and stole the briefcase in a match he wasnt even in
Ryan Williams you do realize these matches and outcomes are scripted?
@@michaelkinser2443 Exactly, stupid moron.