Does the mac have support for Arabic TYPING, because very, very few computers from that time would have had Arabic language support because Arabic letters are mostly connected together an have different forms depending on whether they are in the begginning, middle, or end.
The system disks it came with were not Arabic, but I know Apple added support for international languages very early. Chances are the original owner was using Arabic software on this computer. In those days, software had a copy of the operating system on the same disk, and it would be the Arabic language version. Great to hear from someone who knows the language! I'm not sure how rare they are, because I've never seen another. It's a rare find in Canada, but maybe there are many in the Middle East. Thank you for your comment.
I copied my files via the Farallon PhoneNet system to my classic Macs. It was very cool. I networked all my various Macs together using just plain old telephone cables. A bit slow, but man it was fun!
I have used HD floppies for DD images very often. The secret is to completely demagnetize the disks. I use an active tapehead demagnetizer for that, though bulk tape erasers should do the job just as well.
I have seen a video where a 512k mac whas upgradet with a super fancy board on top of the motherboard, sandwiched together, and that board enabled the use of MFM hard drives! Its the only 512k i had ever seen with a build in hard drive! Crazy how many good mods there are for those old macs!
@@65scribe I had the SE way back in the days, and my dad found a way to mount a hdd on top of the 2 floppy drives in that machine, giving me a lot of options! I hope i can get my hands on a SE or Classic one day! I like those old machines!
Why doesn't anyone talk about a Mac 512-E (Enhanced)? This was the first Mac I purchased in Oct 1986. The only difference it had from the 5612 version was that it had a single 800K Double-Sided disk reader. I was introduced to the Mac by a fellow naval officer who had a Mac 512. He said I could "play" with his computer after I told him I had no desire to learn basic computer language and I did not want to spend hours or days of frustrating line-by-line coping from computer magazines. He explained to me that the Mac only required that I insert a system disc and turn the machine on. Another disc brought up the MacWrite program and I was able to intuitively write letters and do reports for my Master's level courses. None of that "C/load" stuff for me. It was wonderful and the ability to correct my poor typing with the mouse was a dream come true. Most people thought that the Mac was too expensive compared to the IBM clones. However, they did not realize that the price shown was for the CPU alone. You had to buy a monitor, video card, sound card, keyboard and mouse separately. If you changed any of these components you might have to but a new card. Purchasing a printer for the Mac was easy because there was only one comparable DOT Matrix printer. The printer simply plugged into the back of the CPU and it was ready to print what you saw on the screen. The printer card was included in the computer price and was already installed. For the PC a printer must be chosen from many along wit a separate purchase of the appropriate printer card that needed to be installed in the CPU. If it was comparable with your CPU you still had to adjust "dip switches" on the back of the computer to allow the printer to function. After purchasing all of this additional equipment for a handsome price, the total cost met or exceeded the cost of the Mac. After you got it home you had to install programs you purchased or type the program from another source from a list of several hundred computer commands that had to be typed line for line, without error or typo in hopes that it would work as advertised. If not, you had to start over. Mac programs were included enough programs to get started along with the purchase.
I know about the 512e but did not mention it for some reason. In fact, I kind of glossed over machines that followed the 512. But great personal story on your first experience with the graphical OS and the advantages you saw in the Mac at the time. Thanks!
You can transfer files (img dmg files whatever you need to create the floppies on your 8600) via Ethernet using a web server on the windows/macosx/Linux side pc and downloading via browser on macos 8.6/9; there are lots light web servers for any mother os out there
Not sure about 400k floppies, but I’ve been using HFV Explorer on Windows 10 to write 800k and 1.44 mb floppies for my Macintosh II and PowerBook. It feels a bit hacky at times, but it’s easier than going back and forth between different Macintosh computers.
Great solution! Viewers comment on more efficient solutions than my ‘sneaker-net’ shown in the video, but I have not heard that one before. Thanks for sharing!
I use my iBook G4 running MacOS 9.2.2 in classic mode and serving an AFP share, a Quadra 610 running System 7.5.2 with an AAUI adapter and running the AppleTalk to LocalTalk bridge software, then a LocalTalk serial cable links the Quadra to my Macintosh SE running System 6.0.8. it's involved but requires no sneakernet outside of the initial work of getting Network Software 1.4.5 and AppleShare for Workstations 3.5 onto the Mac SE, and LocalTalk Bridge v2.1 on the Quadra 610. evidently the mac68k forums have been working on a DIY direct LocalTalk to ethernet bridge for a while now but I already had everything on hand.
That's some music I borrowed from a Commodore 64 training video by Jim Butterfield. Commodore enthusiasts have since made sure to let me know that they knew where it came from. lol
A good point. This was the 'sneaker-net' method that I used. It's mostly showing the complicated process to bring software to an early Macintosh (so I'll remember how to do it next time).
That is the Keyspan Model UPCI-2. That card came with the 8600 when I bought it from the original owners. I would think it would need software installed to work in OS9.
That's a good point. I don't have any of my pre-2000 computers connected because I mostly use wireless... So that was the 'sneaker-net' method. Thanks for the suggestion!
I've just gotten myself a Powerbook 540c, and haven't been able to find a way to make floppies from a PC, I actually killed my USB floppy drive somehow trying to write an image to a disk. I also have a Powerbook 3400c which has built-in Ethernet and that works fine to FTP stuff onto it from a PC but unfortunately I only have the CD drive for it, not the swappable floppy so I'm screwed too. I will try to build myself a serial cable to connect the 2 and copy images across via AppleTalk then write them on the 540c itself... It currently has System 7.1.1 but not in my language, would like to reinstall 7.6 but I need to make the 16 floppies first...
@@adonvonpanzern I actually bought a powerbook g3 in the meantime that has both the CD and floppy drives, so I made the floppies using it. The G3 is now set up with triple boot, OS9/OSX/Debian.
Hello, I am a Jordanian and I was thoroughly shocked to see an Arabic lettering 80s classic mac keyboard, I can't even imagine how rare that is.
Does the mac have support for Arabic TYPING, because very, very few computers from that time would have had Arabic language support because Arabic letters are mostly connected together an have different forms depending on whether they are in the begginning, middle, or end.
The system disks it came with were not Arabic, but I know Apple added support for international languages very early. Chances are the original owner was using Arabic software on this computer. In those days, software had a copy of the operating system on the same disk, and it would be the Arabic language version. Great to hear from someone who knows the language! I'm not sure how rare they are, because I've never seen another. It's a rare find in Canada, but maybe there are many in the Middle East. Thank you for your comment.
I love the classic macs. Especially the SE line. The snow white design language is very nice
My favorites are the classic and color classic
“The 8600 tries to access it, but even though it created it, it doesn’t know what it is”
Ended up laugh-choking mid drink over this beautiful line
Thanks Aaron!
Make more please! They're always loads of fun and educational!
If you networked the G5 and the 8600, it would save you the burning CD step
I copied my files via the Farallon PhoneNet system to my classic Macs. It was very cool. I networked all my various Macs together using just plain old telephone cables. A bit slow, but man it was fun!
You are the Harry S Plinkett of retro Mac videos.
I appreciate the complement! Plinkett is great!
that is the happiest J key I have ever seen 4:30
Utvecklingsstört Fanskap LOL
I have used HD floppies for DD images very often. The secret is to completely demagnetize the disks. I use an active tapehead demagnetizer for that, though bulk tape erasers should do the job just as well.
Great tip! Thanks!
@@65scribe thank you for half a day entertainment!
dp vn03 You’re welcome. 👍 Thanks for checking them out!
Like your humor! Nice video as always
I have seen a video where a 512k mac whas upgradet with a super fancy board on top of the motherboard, sandwiched together, and that board enabled the use of MFM hard drives! Its the only 512k i had ever seen with a build in hard drive! Crazy how many good mods there are for those old macs!
That's pretty cool! And I agree. I was amazed the lengths people went to expanding the Macintosh SE back in the day.
@@65scribe I had the SE way back in the days, and my dad found a way to mount a hdd on top of the 2 floppy drives in that machine, giving me a lot of options! I hope i can get my hands on a SE or Classic one day! I like those old machines!
Why doesn't anyone talk about a Mac 512-E (Enhanced)? This was the first Mac I purchased in Oct 1986. The only difference it had from the 5612 version was that it had a single 800K Double-Sided disk reader. I was introduced to the Mac by a fellow naval officer who had a Mac 512. He said I could "play" with his computer after I told him I had no desire to learn basic computer language and I did not want to spend hours or days of frustrating line-by-line coping from computer magazines.
He explained to me that the Mac only required that I insert a system disc and turn the machine on. Another disc brought up the MacWrite program and I was able to intuitively write letters and do reports for my Master's level courses. None of that "C/load" stuff for me. It was wonderful and the ability to correct my poor typing with the mouse was a dream come true.
Most people thought that the Mac was too expensive compared to the IBM clones. However, they did not realize that the price shown was for the CPU alone. You had to buy a monitor, video card, sound card, keyboard and mouse separately. If you changed any of these components you might have to but a new card. Purchasing a printer for the Mac was easy because there was only one comparable DOT Matrix printer. The printer simply plugged into the back of the CPU and it was ready to print what you saw on the screen. The printer card was included in the computer price and was already installed. For the PC a printer must be chosen from many along wit a separate purchase of the appropriate printer card that needed to be installed in the CPU. If it was comparable with your CPU you still had to adjust "dip switches" on the back of the computer to allow the printer to function. After purchasing all of this additional equipment for a handsome price, the total cost met or exceeded the cost of the Mac.
After you got it home you had to install programs you purchased or type the program from another source from a list of several hundred computer commands that had to be typed line for line, without error or typo in hopes that it would work as advertised. If not, you had to start over. Mac programs were included enough programs to get started along with the purchase.
I know about the 512e but did not mention it for some reason. In fact, I kind of glossed over machines that followed the 512. But great personal story on your first experience with the graphical OS and the advantages you saw in the Mac at the time. Thanks!
I’ve gotten away with formatting a 1.44mb disc 300 times until it likes being treated as an 800k
Impressive..
Would love to see more on your other machines!
+sevenfortyfour A full video is in progress. Just doing some housekeeping in between.
Transfer can also be done with a 1.44M DOS formated disk to a macintosh classic or fdhd using dos mounter 95 extension
Imaginative solution! Thanks!
I have a perfect 512K Mac.!!
You can transfer files (img dmg files whatever you need to create the floppies on your 8600) via Ethernet using a web server on the windows/macosx/Linux side pc and downloading via browser on macos 8.6/9; there are lots light web servers for any mother os out there
Great suggestion. That’s definitely a smarter way to do it. Thanks for sharing that, Juan!
Not sure about 400k floppies, but I’ve been using HFV Explorer on Windows 10 to write 800k and 1.44 mb floppies for my Macintosh II and PowerBook. It feels a bit hacky at times, but it’s easier than going back and forth between different Macintosh computers.
Great solution! Viewers comment on more efficient solutions than my ‘sneaker-net’ shown in the video, but I have not heard that one before. Thanks for sharing!
I had not thought about that one. Perhaps it's because I booted my 512 from a SCSI hard drive.
You can use HD just tape the right side I use it to copy my MSX2 programs and games form alien ware to my MSX2 hopefully this work with with you
Macintoshrepository.org should be another consideration for old Mac software and there is even archive.org
also if your target mac is a little newer and has appletalk and an HDD you can start a serial appletalk share, i did this with my SE
That's another option. Thanks Julian!
I did the same thing! Except I used an iMac G3
I use my iBook G4 running MacOS 9.2.2 in classic mode and serving an AFP share, a Quadra 610 running System 7.5.2 with an AAUI adapter and running the AppleTalk to LocalTalk bridge software, then a LocalTalk serial cable links the Quadra to my Macintosh SE running System 6.0.8. it's involved but requires no sneakernet outside of the initial work of getting Network Software 1.4.5 and AppleShare for Workstations 3.5 onto the Mac SE, and LocalTalk Bridge v2.1 on the Quadra 610. evidently the mac68k forums have been working on a DIY direct LocalTalk to ethernet bridge for a while now but I already had everything on hand.
Subscribed, liked! Love that video~
Thanks very much Yoko!
65scribe, I accidentally found my father’s old macintosh and made a video about it!
Good video. I hope you find the monitor.
I'm so happy you actually watched it :D
Nice video again :)
Thanks. I had a issue with a img file. Now i know what to try b
Good to hear it was helpful!
the 512k you own comes from the netherlands
Do a PowerBook G4 vid! And include lots of "wah wah" sounds! 😂
lol so real for the titanium
Thanks for this!
+Gmoney 6422 You're welcome!
Isn't this box capable of running appleshare? Could it be networked to get files across?
That's true. I didn't tackle networking options. I was just using the 'sneaker-net' method and demonstrating some of the compatability hurdles.
What's the intro music? Love it
That's some music I borrowed from a Commodore 64 training video by Jim Butterfield. Commodore enthusiasts have since made sure to let me know that they knew where it came from. lol
@@65scribe Hey, thanks! Found it!
For anyone wondering:
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This guy sounds like aLloyd Braun on Senfeild. Braun was DAVE Dinken’s advisor.
couldnt use a network to transfer the files/image?
A good point. This was the 'sneaker-net' method that I used. It's mostly showing the complicated process to bring software to an early Macintosh (so I'll remember how to do it next time).
Just wondering, which USB card did you stick in the 8600? Will just about any PCI USB card work?
That is the Keyspan Model UPCI-2. That card came with the 8600 when I bought it from the original owners. I would think it would need software installed to work in OS9.
EMMM hey why not just install the classilla browser on the vintage and go to mac garden and download the stuffit directly?
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That's a good point. I don't have any of my pre-2000 computers connected because I mostly use wireless... So that was the 'sneaker-net' method. Thanks for the suggestion!
Technically, could you use a USB floppy on the modern Mac to transfer the software?
Unfortunately no, the 400k and 800k drives run and different speeds to 1.4mb drives.
Good ol 65scribe in 360p
Retro all the way!
could I get the operating system 6 or 7 this way? and could I do it on a PC with a sata or usb floppy?
You can definitely make system 6 and 7 floppies this way, I haven’t tried downloading using a PC but should work.
I've just gotten myself a Powerbook 540c, and haven't been able to find a way to make floppies from a PC, I actually killed my USB floppy drive somehow trying to write an image to a disk. I also have a Powerbook 3400c which has built-in Ethernet and that works fine to FTP stuff onto it from a PC but unfortunately I only have the CD drive for it, not the swappable floppy so I'm screwed too. I will try to build myself a serial cable to connect the 2 and copy images across via AppleTalk then write them on the 540c itself... It currently has System 7.1.1 but not in my language, would like to reinstall 7.6 but I need to make the 16 floppies first...
@@kilrahvp i know im late, but after coming on this video again, id say id like to see that
@@adonvonpanzern I actually bought a powerbook g3 in the meantime that has both the CD and floppy drives, so I made the floppies using it. The G3 is now set up with triple boot, OS9/OSX/Debian.
Ooh, ive been looking into a G3 but i think ill stick to my Zip drive
What music is that?
That is the music from the 80's Commodore 64 tutorial by Jim Butterfield.
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Oh and by the way this is miss shipping format labels this on you had is miss shipping labels the one we have is USA 😂
Funny how that happens 😀
Did it increase your female viewership?
It doubled! ... to 6%
womp womp
lol Apple really did figure out design in the 80s and threw it away
You probably have Osama Bin Laden's 512k Mac
Lol! Scary thought!
:(
+OpTic biG mAc Ethan, get off my channel.
@@65scribe Huh?
use ethernet!! works fine
ditch the disks