In June 1952 I started work in the station master's office at Leeds City station. Not long before Christmas I watched workmen putting up the tree in what is now the North Concourse. One of them braced a rope against one of those Art Deco ribs - and it went through. They were only plaster covering rolled steel joists.
I’ve travelled this route before in 2017, albeit as far as Peterborough. It was the 2nd of 3 train journeys on my way home from Manchester and was on 1 of the class 91’s that LNER used before the Azumas came into service
Well, when the Class 91s were introduced in 1991, they said that they were capable of 140mph 'in the future', and we are still waiting, so don't get your hopes up for faster travel anytime soon! There must be a joke about finding a dinosaur in Leeds station....why didn't they just have a model of a Pacer train???
No, don't hold your breath for any speed upgrade! The line is too crowded to run at 140mph for very long without fast trains catching up with slower ones, then of course they would need to slow down. Upgrading & maintaining the line to 140mph was therefore considered be of too little benefit. That was over 30 years ago & the line has since got busier, so there would be even less point now.
the only reason we cant do 140mph is that it would cost too much to upgrade signalling .....and also would you like your back broken on an azuma at 140mph
You need to travel GWR second class to realise how truly awful these trains are. The GWR sets are the oldest and they seem to be deteriorating rapidly.
Dylan, another nicely made video! Keep up the great work, I love seeing the different locations of the UK and London along with the other cities and villages!
Over these last two months I’ve become very familiar with LNER Azuma first class offerings to various degrees of success between Leeds and London to the point I’ve lost count and even this week between Newcastle and Dundee and return to Leeds. Also, unfortunately, experiencing the power lines coming down on both occasions, in the same area, over these recent weeks and trying to return from London!!! I am a great fan of the LNER Azumas they are lovely trains.
Did a first-class trip from Middlesborough to London Kings Cross on the 1st day of the Middlesborough services and really enjoyed the experience, great video.
Sorry, I find the class 800 ride quality hard and the 1st Class seats uncomfortable after half an hour. There is no doubt that the Mark 4's were much smoother and the seats slightly better. The only advantages of 1st class seating nowadays is the 2+1 spacing. The seat profiles have become thinner, thus giving the illusion of more space (just like Ryanair etc). The days of sumptuous well-upholstered 1st class seats are long gone, except on Mark 1 charters.
I have just returned from a regular trip to Biarritz from Harrogate (1st class) though this time using Stena Sail/Rail (to visit Rotterdam) and can advise that the only trains to run on time were the LNER services to and from Kings Cross. Greater Anglia was 10 minutes late both ways; Thalys trains (Rotterdam/Paris) were old, shabby and late in both directions; InOui was late by 10 mins out to Dax and by 55 mins back from Biarritz to Paris; TER from Dax was cancelled (staff shortages) and the next scheduled service 1 hour later was 15 mins late leaving and seriously overcrowded. LNER knocked them all into next week being on time and though slightly slower (125 vs 186/191mph) provided at seat catering in the price (far superior to the "formule petit dejeuner" bought from the InOui cafè-bar which cost €9-30 and was a very unimpressive coffee, yoghurt and bun). All those who bleat about wanting European standards of rail should be careful what they wish for - in Europe I currently rate LNER 2nd best behind Frecciarossa having moved ahead of Eurostar this year. As for the smooth ride, LNER is fine so long as you are in a 9-coach or 10-coach unit - if you are in one of the 5-coach units they can get seriously bouncy at speed especially around Newark! 1st Class Lounge services have deteriorated considerably lately but they remain comfortable places to wait with desks and charging points and, most importantly, heating in York, one of England's colder and draughtier albeit more beautiful stations ...
I totally agree i have done several first class interrail trips lately and i think the british first class is one of the best and i have already planned the next trip in july because it offers the most valeu for money, a meal, unlimited coffe and biscuits and with exception of tpe eveything was on time and free reservations and no extra fees for hst I really enjoyed my time especially with the occasionaly hst 225 or xc hst 125 for a more nostalgic feeling.. in terms of service i am Dutch and if we see any train staff or station staff outside the main stations it is almost a shock nowadays so enjoy your rail bevoming more efficient or european will certainly mean less service and kindness on your jourrney 😢
I travelled up to Newark standard class both ways in a 225 and down in a 800, and I found everything: seat comfort, cabin atmosphere, and the announcements to be much much better on the 225. The 800 feels way too cramped and the seats are very uncomfortable. I also found the 225 extremely smooth to travel on, with the 800 constantly bumping up and down. We took bikes on our journey and it turned out to be a real faff putting them on the 800. Nice vid though!
I have to say when comparing the two types of traction LNER have I would probably prefer a 225. The only complaint I had when catching one from York to King's Cross was that because of it being a fairly frequent stopping service, the brakes started to smell after a while in the coaches which wasn't a great smell. Comfy nonetheless though in standard and the 225 First Class is pretty much second to none from what I have heard. I don't mind the Azuma's but I would probably travel in a 225 over one of them.
You're not alone. The railway press reports -- when not trying to find out about the bogie /body crack rectification -- an growing preference for the 225s. Takes a lot to beat a loco hauled well spring and insulated rake of Mk 4s.
I remember the this service in the 1990s. It the was the the last train service to offer a restaurant car in the first class area. We used to use it when West Ham were playing in the north. We always went standard on this service and we used to always arrive just before 10:30 when breakfast was finished and have the 7 course breakfast for £7.95 we would leave when we were asked to as they needed to start preparing lunch. Those were the days ⚒
I spent many hours traveling in first class with LNER from London to Newcastle. I just love the service and I will never travel in economy . For anyone who reading this and thinks it’s expensive think your getting a service with loads of free food and drinks it’s worth it
Another enjoyable train trip video, Dylan. Interesting to hear that they provide wheelchair spaces in both First and Standard classes. I wasn't aware that any of the UK companies did this. (Less of a shocker as I don't live there.) I'm impressed.
To be honest, don’t be too reliant on what LNER may serve you in First Class. Traveled with LNER a few days ago from King’s Cross to Doncaster and was supposed to get the Dish menu. However, not long after we pulled out of King’s Cross, they swapped the menu to Deli! Wasn’t too impressed, as I was looking forward to try out the Shepherdess Chicken. Also they had no toasted teacakes and had to make do with the Deli Box instead. 😒
Thank you for your report. I frequently travel between Kings Cross and Leeds, always 1st class, and having tried the Azumas, now endeavour to book on a Mark IV set ! The first class seating in the MarkIVs is far superior, and thankfully, despite the age and many miles they have run, you don’t hear the track noise that the Azumas make ! One has to compare what is now Britain’s newest long distance train with those of the European mainland like the D.B.ICE, and SNCF TGV. Frankly, LNER Azumas, and GWR IETs are not in the same league.
The East Coast Main Line has had the best First Class options for years now, although I do think the amount of food on offer is a bit stingy these days. The 'Dish of the Day' was actually little more than a snack last time I had it - which is a shame when you consider that the food provision and not having to carry your own is one of the main reasons that leisure travellers choose First Class, especially on longer journeys.
International super villan lol. Love your hair too. I'm going to be working onboard as a customer host next week and hope to see you on your next LNER adventure. Great vid!
Great video as always! I made a trip for between London and horsforth to see some family and I got upgraded to first class due to being under 18 and travelling alone!
After a break from TH-cam for a couple of weeks, I'm catching up. Apart from the blandness of the First Class Lounge at Leeds (WHAT-NO COFFEE!!!!!), looks like you (and she who must be obeyed) had a pleasant trip. I had a chuckle at your comments about THE LADY FROM GRANTHAM. Beware her steely glance should you come upon a portrait photo of her in your travels. She might hex you to the nearest hairdresser to get your top lopped. Cheers from Michael downunder in Melbourne.
a nice little hop to the capital. First class is the way to go. The other sections were very crowded & loud (I imagine). The windows were cleaner than your last few rides. Not your fault at all, but the clean windows make it a lot easier to view the sights. Your last one was difficult to see much. Happy travels.
Just a though Dylan ( because I've just done it ) but on some of your longer routes/ higher fares, could you introduce ticket splitting into the equation where available? As the cost of living issue begin to bite, every little helps!
I used the East Coast line aiming ultimately for Huddersfield when my mother and father lived there. I was most impressed with the renationalised service (a few years ago LOL) and their meal offerings in first class together with the friendliness of the staff made it an enjoyable service. There is a Grand Central service from Halifax to London stopping at Brighouse and that was an interesting service I had not encountered before. Brighouse even had some volunteer helpers on stand-by to help folks.
The design is nice, the ride quality is acceptable, the seats in either class are genuinely the worst I've ever travelled in on any long-distance train anywhere in Europe.
Trip looked good and I agree, Dylan, the decor in First Class looked smart 😉👍🏻. Sadly, the link to menu really didn’t show what mains were available under Dish. 😕
You will see in 11.12 that if you are unlucky enough to get an aisle seat in first class, you have a table-leg directly in front of you, between your legs. This makes it impossible, almost, to stretch out your legs or cross them over each other. Regarding the cycle cupboards, they have to be unlocked by LNER staff. I boarded one at Northallerton recently with a cycle reservation, and there was no-one to unlock the door so I had to leave it in the corridor. At Newcastke I shouted to a member of the platform staff to come and help me. Not very good.
@@simonc7947 Yes, they are horrible, but the staff do their best to help - when they can! I think their design is part of Department of Transport's plan to discourage the carriage of bikes by train.
I take the Azuma 1st class very regularly between London and Lincoln and occasionally London to Leeds or York. I have never, ever been served hot food since LNER took over so you were very lucky. I am astonished to read even the 'deli' menu is supposed to offer salad as an alternative to sandwiches because the only alternative ever offered is a snack box. Other than the food 1st class is pretty efficient and clean, with some good exchangeability on tickets now if you have to change times of travel which is a plus. Wifi is pretty dire and I usually have to tether to my 5/4G to do any work.
Though they're economising in First Class. No more toast with your breakfast, and the wine is now out of boxes not bottles - they pour your glass out in the galley, hoping you won't notice.
@@CommandoG331 I believe that's because of their temporary timetable due to shortage of drivers - but in a way it's just a means of putting up fares because if you need to travel you buy a walk-on ticket. Personally I sometimes use a walk-on ticket if I want the flexibility of coming back when I want, or to break my journey en-route - but most people are happy to use airline style fixed-train-only tickets because they are of course cheaper.
Definitely looks a lot better than the same journey but from Oxford with Cross Country via Birmingham. Soooo cramped and such old stock I'd not be surprised if it soon started falling apart! :')
The 'all you can drink' booze offering makes any journey feel a lot smoother. The LNER first class lounge in Kings Cross is utter garbage though. And the one in Leeds? Why are so many lounges without windows? Awful. The lounge in Newcastle sucks too. Anyway, yes this is the greatest first class experience I've ever had - attentive staff, good food, great drinks. Lovely.
The construction work: There was a help point put there but it had a massive lack of insulation and shelter problem. Very windy and chilly, such that the staff had to wear winter coats and gloves etc. Eventually they refused to work there any more. It is being redesigned and replaced as a result.
I love the Azuma trains and have found the best seats in first class for a good view are K17 southbound and K16 Northbound as these are the four seat tables and prefer them even though I'm a solo traveller
Really shows how service can make or break first class! GWR using the same trains with the same seating, however food/drink service is just nibbles and alcohol not even being included in the ticket! LNER shows that with good food service you can make even an awful seat seem like good value.
Den ganzen Juli über war ich mit Britrail First Class in ganz UK unterwegs. So hab ich die verschiedensten Unternehmen und Baureihen kennenlernen können. Zwar hat nicht jeder Zug eine erste Klasse, jedoch war diese, wenn sie mal da war schon etwas besonderes. Vor allem im Vergleich zu deutschen Zügen. Von kostenlosem Catering mit Snacks und Getränken, teilweise sogar ganzen Mahlzeiten kann man in unseren ICE nur träumen! Das ist nicht im Ticketpreis enthalten. Das hab ich also natürlich ausgenutzten sehr genossen! Intercity First Class in GB zu fahren ist schon ein Erlebnis. Nun gab es natürlich auch besseres und schlechteres. Der Service hat mir besonders bei Avanti sehr gut gefallen. TPE konnte bei mir wiederum mit dem Ambiente in der Nova Flotte überzeugen. Mein persönliches Highlight war nichts desto trotz die Fahrt in LNERs Mk4-Wagen. Sitzcomfort, Ambiente, Service, Fahrgefühl,… einfach alles hat gestimmt! Da war ich sehr begeistert auch wenn die Fahrt nur kurz von Leeds nach Doncaster war. Einen solchen Train-Trip würd ich definitiv wiederholen! Sorry, dass alles in Deutsch steht. Ich war für das übersetzen zu faul 😅
Translation follows. Gern geschehen! I spent the whole of July traveling around the UK with Britrail First Class. I was able to get to know a wide variety of companies and model series. Although not every train has a first class, it was something special when it was there. Especially compared to German trains. One can only dream of free catering with snacks and drinks, sometimes even whole meals in our ICE! This is not included in the ticket price. So of course I really enjoyed it! Driving Intercity First Class in the UK is an experience in itself. Of course there were better and worse. I really liked the service, especially at Avanti. TPE was able to convince me again with the ambience in the Nova fleet. Nevertheless, my personal highlight was the ride in LNER's Mk4 car. Seating comfort, ambience, service, driving experience,... everything was just right! I was very enthusiastic about that, even if the journey from Leeds to Doncaster was only short. I would definitely repeat such a train trip! Sorry that everything is in German. I was too lazy to translate.
Whenever i travel 1st class its always on the way back from london because there's no lounge at lincoln station. a place i would highly recommend visiting.
Interesting that the train reversed at Leeds - when the Harrogate - London services were operated by HSTs they used to continue east out of Leeds and join the ECML near Hambleton, missing out Wakefield.
140mph/225kmph running probably won't happen for the forseeable future. In order to do more than 125mph/201kmph, you have to have in cab signalling equipment, rather than lineside signalling.
I've just travelled down from Newcastle on an Azuma in first. I was seated next to an automated pair of doors that separated standard class from first. The doors (or their mechanisms) were rattling so badly I thought they were going to fall apart but it did make the experience quite stressful for me. But it certainly wasn't the journey I was so looking forward to and has left a poor impression of the build quality.
I used this service Leeds - London in August, 1st class, agree the 1st class lounge is not great, coffee machine was working but snacks were rather poor. The trains are virtually the same as used by Southeastern on the High Speed service where 140mph is the norm. 1st class seats are fine but there is only one set of "face to face" single seats around a table per coach, all the rest are airline style ... not great when travelling as a couple. Onboard catering was not great either, on our lunchtime trip there were snacks only. Ride quality can be worse with LNER (at 125mph) than Southeastern (at 140mph) - I guess track quality must play a part with this. Overall, a missed potential. Also travelled with LNER in June, Aberdeen to London, comments apply except that Aberdeen's 1st class lounge was closed for refurbishment. At least LNER gives a kickback when booking tickets on their mobile app!
No mask. Feels like it's 2019 all over. Lovely. 1:25 Is this virtual reality or is this real? Ooooh, is this the first video in 4K? Looks lovely. 6:24 Ahhh, Elland Road 9:06 Savage about Maggie. Wait until another supervillain named Liz comes around. BTW, You a rose fan or a bird? 9:54 I like the maroon colour. 13:40 I swear Queen Lizzie is mad in heaven when the security chose to fly her from Edinburgh instead of the Royal Train to this station. 14:41 Ooooh, Mrs. Travel Reports. Look forward to her voice as well.
I find the IET's can be hit and miss. Some of them are really good and you can walk along easily. Other's are rocky as hell and you struggle to stand up.
I went on a 5 hour 50 minute journey for Motherwell to kings cross and the comfort on the standard seat was dreadful. I got off the train with a really sore back
Have experience riding the LNER Azusa First and Standard. Couldn’t tell much difference except seats marginally wider but just as hard and non reclining, the ‘free lunch’ in First was,pretty gross. The first class lounge in Kings Cross was packed. But they had water and crisps for anyone interested. First just wasn’t worth the extra pounds.
Dylan, yet again an informative report, thanks. Best first class? From my limited experience it probably is but please don't consider that a glowing endorsement. The services I have used reasonably regularly are limited to LNER, Cross Country and East Midlands. I live in Sheffield and I have three common journeys: London (EMR), Darlington (Cross Country) and Inverness (Cross Country to York - LNER to Inverness). EMR and Cross Country first class aren't really worth the premium unless you really need significant space to work. The food on offer is pretty poor. If food is part of your reasoning then neither of the operators offer anything better than you could provide yourself. I was told by LNER that food and drink and complimentary, they're not obliged to offer anything. In my experience menus will often change or the stock will be so limited they've run out if you're further down the carriage pecking order. Last trip, breakfast options were limited and in short supply and the dish menu was substituted for deli and some items were unavailable. As far as the carriages, LNER has the best aesthetics. Leg room, if not at a shared table, is really good, but then it is is standard class too. The seats in standard for a 6 hour plus journey are back breaking IMHO, first is a little better. Is it worth the premium over standard, it depends. For a long journey and for a small uplift then it probably is. I'm heading from York to Inverness next week on a standard advance ticket which is £49. A little while back it was £29, even with the rise in price it is great value for 6.5 hours on a train. First class out was a big hike, an extra £60 or so. I have a Seatfrog bid in for the journey up but not expecting it to go through as the train is generally busy through to Edinburgh. My return is a first class advance ticket, around £70, nearly £25 extra for first but I thought I would see if it has improved since my last journey.
I get that non-flexi tickets are MUCH cheaper than off peak/anytime. And I get that the East Coast Mainline has very high demand and limited spaces. But when a single, in standard, off peak, from York to London costs £123, whilst Grand Central charge £58..... Took the azuma a couple years ago to Newcastle - yes I was in standard class and yes it was uncomfortable for a 3hour+ trip (and for reference I'm probably a fair bit shorter than Dylan 😂). Grand Central use the class 180s so probably a bit noisy but their seats cannot be more uncomfortable than on the 801's.
When you talk about the seat reclining will you please show the effects on the seat behind yours? Airline seats can really cause lack of space for the seat behind the reclining seat. Please it can be hard to use the table. I’m wondering if that’s the same on the trains.
Have to agree the lighting in ALL variants of the 800 is too bright, particularly at night. It's cold and could benefit from a colour temperature tone down. As for overall ambiance I think Hull Trains cabins have even better ambiance but still the hard lighting - you should try them and compare. GWR 800's have, in my view, the worst ambiance totally un-welcoming! I still prefer the MK 4's!
Sorry for the lack of end cards. I will add them on my computer when I get home.
It’s ok
I use them twice a year and they have never faulted the price has been great and the amount you paid for your trip is perfectly amount.
How have you guys been lately?
You still haven't got round to doing it.
Looking for the menus and range of food offering’s
In June 1952 I started work in the station master's office at Leeds City station. Not long before Christmas I watched workmen putting up the tree in what is now the North Concourse. One of them braced a rope against one of those Art Deco ribs - and it went through. They were only plaster covering rolled steel joists.
Ridden this route a fair few times. Upgrade from standard to first usually costs less than £15 on Seatfrog and is definitely worth it.
I’ve travelled this route before in 2017, albeit as far as Peterborough. It was the 2nd of 3 train journeys on my way home from Manchester and was on 1 of the class 91’s that LNER used before the Azumas came into service
Except for the underwhelming lounge serving biscuits and water, that was a smooth, comfortable ride. The lunch looked excellent.
But they are nice biscuits
The gold panels on the rooftop of the station immediately reminded me of the Elizabeth Line stations
Well, when the Class 91s were introduced in 1991, they said that they were capable of 140mph 'in the future', and we are still waiting, so don't get your hopes up for faster travel anytime soon! There must be a joke about finding a dinosaur in Leeds station....why didn't they just have a model of a Pacer train???
No, don't hold your breath for any speed upgrade! The line is too crowded to run at 140mph for very long without fast trains catching up with slower ones, then of course they would need to slow down. Upgrading & maintaining the line to 140mph was therefore considered be of too little benefit. That was over 30 years ago & the line has since got busier, so there would be even less point now.
@@TheRip72 They were even marketed as 'IC225' trains originally (to constrast with the IC125 trains they supplanted) - 225 km/h being 140mph.
Yep. Only a few sections are 140 capable
@@timbounds7190 I know. I always wince when I hear them called 225s because they have only ever officially done 201kmh in service.
the only reason we cant do 140mph is that it would cost too much to upgrade signalling .....and also would you like your back broken on an azuma at 140mph
You need to travel GWR second class to realise how truly awful these trains are. The GWR sets are the oldest and they seem to be deteriorating rapidly.
I used to commute Doncaster to Leeds daily from 2001 to 2005. I barely recognise Leeds station now.
The work at Leeds station is that of some new shop Greg's Sainsbury's Costa coffee Nero
and British transport police office
Taking my first trip on LNER on the 24th (standard) Azuma - cant wait (might seat frog it to first if the fare is right) Leeds to Kings Cross
Dylan, another nicely made video! Keep up the great work, I love seeing the different locations of the UK and London along with the other cities and villages!
I travelled LNER First Class once to attend my cousin's wedding. But it was on an InterCity 225.
Over these last two months I’ve become very familiar with LNER Azuma first class offerings to various degrees of success between Leeds and London to the point I’ve lost count and even this week between Newcastle and Dundee and return to Leeds. Also, unfortunately, experiencing the power lines coming down on both occasions, in the same area, over these recent weeks and trying to return from London!!! I am a great fan of the LNER Azumas they are lovely trains.
I always like getting the azumas when I head south from Inverness
Perfect timing - will be riding this route and class in exactly one week :)
Did a first-class trip from Middlesborough to London Kings Cross on the 1st day of the Middlesborough services and really enjoyed the experience, great video.
Nicely done! A short, but very pleasant journey.
Sorry, I find the class 800 ride quality hard and the 1st Class seats uncomfortable after half an hour. There is no doubt that the Mark 4's were much smoother and the seats slightly better. The only advantages of 1st class seating nowadays is the 2+1 spacing. The seat profiles have become thinner, thus giving the illusion of more space (just like Ryanair etc). The days of sumptuous well-upholstered 1st class seats are long gone, except on Mark 1 charters.
Thanks!
I have just returned from a regular trip to Biarritz from Harrogate (1st class) though this time using Stena Sail/Rail (to visit Rotterdam) and can advise that the only trains to run on time were the LNER services to and from Kings Cross. Greater Anglia was 10 minutes late both ways; Thalys trains (Rotterdam/Paris) were old, shabby and late in both directions; InOui was late by 10 mins out to Dax and by 55 mins back from Biarritz to Paris; TER from Dax was cancelled (staff shortages) and the next scheduled service 1 hour later was 15 mins late leaving and seriously overcrowded. LNER knocked them all into next week being on time and though slightly slower (125 vs 186/191mph) provided at seat catering in the price (far superior to the "formule petit dejeuner" bought from the InOui cafè-bar which cost €9-30 and was a very unimpressive coffee, yoghurt and bun). All those who bleat about wanting European standards of rail should be careful what they wish for - in Europe I currently rate LNER 2nd best behind Frecciarossa having moved ahead of Eurostar this year.
As for the smooth ride, LNER is fine so long as you are in a 9-coach or 10-coach unit - if you are in one of the 5-coach units they can get seriously bouncy at speed especially around Newark! 1st Class Lounge services have deteriorated considerably lately but they remain comfortable places to wait with desks and charging points and, most importantly, heating in York, one of England's colder and draughtier albeit more beautiful stations ...
I totally agree i have done several first class interrail trips lately and i think the british first class is one of the best and i have already planned the next trip in july because it offers the most valeu for money, a meal, unlimited coffe and biscuits and with exception of tpe eveything was on time and free reservations and no extra fees for hst I really enjoyed my time especially with the occasionaly hst 225 or xc hst 125 for a more nostalgic feeling.. in terms of service i am Dutch and if we see any train staff or station staff outside the main stations it is almost a shock nowadays so enjoy your rail bevoming more efficient or european will certainly mean less service and kindness on your jourrney 😢
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excellent description
I travelled up to Newark standard class both ways in a 225 and down in a 800, and I found everything: seat comfort, cabin atmosphere, and the announcements to be much much better on the 225. The 800 feels way too cramped and the seats are very uncomfortable. I also found the 225 extremely smooth to travel on, with the 800 constantly bumping up and down. We took bikes on our journey and it turned out to be a real faff putting them on the 800. Nice vid though!
I have to say when comparing the two types of traction LNER have I would probably prefer a 225. The only complaint I had when catching one from York to King's Cross was that because of it being a fairly frequent stopping service, the brakes started to smell after a while in the coaches which wasn't a great smell. Comfy nonetheless though in standard and the 225 First Class is pretty much second to none from what I have heard. I don't mind the Azuma's but I would probably travel in a 225 over one of them.
You're not alone. The railway press reports -- when not trying to find out about the bogie /body crack rectification -- an growing preference for the 225s. Takes a lot to beat a loco hauled well spring and insulated rake of Mk 4s.
I remember the this service in the 1990s. It the was the the last train service to offer a restaurant car in the first class area. We used to use it when West Ham were playing in the north. We always went standard on this service and we used to always arrive just before 10:30 when breakfast was finished and have the 7 course breakfast for £7.95 we would leave when we were asked to as they needed to start preparing lunch. Those were the days ⚒
I spent many hours traveling in first class with LNER from London to Newcastle. I just love the service and I will never travel in economy . For anyone who reading this and thinks it’s expensive think your getting a service with loads of free food and drinks it’s worth it
Another enjoyable train trip video, Dylan. Interesting to hear that they provide wheelchair spaces in both First and Standard classes. I wasn't aware that any of the UK companies did this. (Less of a shocker as I don't live there.) I'm impressed.
To be honest, don’t be too reliant on what LNER may serve you in First Class. Traveled with LNER a few days ago from King’s Cross to Doncaster and was supposed to get the Dish menu. However, not long after we pulled out of King’s Cross, they swapped the menu to Deli! Wasn’t too impressed, as I was looking forward to try out the Shepherdess Chicken. Also they had no toasted teacakes and had to make do with the Deli Box instead. 😒
Im pretty sure the meal service is also based on journey length too no?
Thank you for your report. I frequently travel between Kings Cross and Leeds, always 1st class, and having tried the Azumas, now endeavour to book on a Mark IV set ! The first class seating in the MarkIVs is far superior, and thankfully, despite the age and many miles they have run, you don’t hear the track noise that the Azumas make ! One has to compare what is now Britain’s newest long distance train with those of the European mainland like the D.B.ICE, and SNCF TGV. Frankly, LNER Azumas, and GWR IETs are not in the same league.
Better or worse / like the GWR trains
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The East Coast Main Line has had the best First Class options for years now, although I do think the amount of food on offer is a bit stingy these days. The 'Dish of the Day' was actually little more than a snack last time I had it - which is a shame when you consider that the food provision and not having to carry your own is one of the main reasons that leisure travellers choose First Class, especially on longer journeys.
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International super villan lol. Love your hair too. I'm going to be working onboard as a customer host next week and hope to see you on your next LNER adventure. Great vid!
Great video as always! I made a trip for between London and horsforth to see some family and I got upgraded to first class due to being under 18 and travelling alone!
For free?
Yes!
I’d love for LNER to have a “Bean to cup” espresso machine in first class! Would love a latte ☕️
Really !!!, you try serving over 100 passengers on some trains from a bean to cup machine. I assume you wont want anything else on a 5 hour journey
After a break from TH-cam for a couple of weeks, I'm catching up. Apart from the blandness of the First Class Lounge at Leeds (WHAT-NO COFFEE!!!!!), looks like you (and she who must be obeyed) had a pleasant trip. I had a chuckle at your comments about THE LADY FROM GRANTHAM. Beware her steely glance should you come upon a portrait photo of her in your travels. She might hex you to the nearest hairdresser to get your top lopped. Cheers from Michael downunder in Melbourne.
a nice little hop to the capital. First class is the way to go. The other sections were very crowded & loud (I imagine). The windows were cleaner than your last few rides. Not your fault at all, but the clean windows make it a lot easier to view the sights. Your last one was difficult to see much. Happy travels.
Great trip. This remembered me about your trip in the past.
Just a though Dylan ( because I've just done it ) but on some of your longer routes/ higher fares, could you introduce ticket splitting into the equation where available? As the cost of living issue begin to bite, every little helps!
I used the East Coast line aiming ultimately for Huddersfield
when my mother and father lived there.
I was most impressed with the renationalised service
(a few years ago LOL)
and their meal offerings in first class
together with the friendliness of the staff
made it an enjoyable service.
There is a Grand Central service
from Halifax to London
stopping at Brighouse
and that was an interesting service
I had not encountered before.
Brighouse even had some volunteer helpers
on stand-by to help folks.
Very polished production. Well done Dylan
The design is nice, the ride quality is acceptable, the seats in either class are genuinely the worst I've ever travelled in on any long-distance train anywhere in Europe.
everything seems crisp and fresh, Dylan! 😀
Thanks for the ride !!! 🇺🇾
Trip looked good and I agree, Dylan, the decor in First Class looked smart 😉👍🏻. Sadly, the link to menu really didn’t show what mains were available under Dish. 😕
Great video! If I book 1st class with LNER, I always choose a seat at either end of the carriage to avoid eye contact with people haha.
You will see in 11.12 that if you are unlucky enough to get an aisle seat in first class, you have a table-leg directly in front of you, between your legs. This makes it impossible, almost, to stretch out your legs or cross them over each other.
Regarding the cycle cupboards, they have to be unlocked by LNER staff. I boarded one at Northallerton recently with a cycle reservation, and there was no-one to unlock the door so I had to leave it in the corridor. At Newcastke I shouted to a member of the platform staff to come and help me. Not very good.
I once read that the cycle cupboards look like they were designed by someone who has never seen a bicycle. Or a train. Having used them, I agree
@@simonc7947 Yes, they are horrible, but the staff do their best to help - when they can! I think their design is part of Department of Transport's plan to discourage the carriage of bikes by train.
I take the Azuma 1st class very regularly between London and Lincoln and occasionally London to Leeds or York. I have never, ever been served hot food since LNER took over so you were very lucky. I am astonished to read even the 'deli' menu is supposed to offer salad as an alternative to sandwiches because the only alternative ever offered is a snack box. Other than the food 1st class is pretty efficient and clean, with some good exchangeability on tickets now if you have to change times of travel which is a plus. Wifi is pretty dire and I usually have to tether to my 5/4G to do any work.
brilliant awsome train review i love the azumas
Avanti does good first class too
Shame the service as a whole is shit.
Though they're economising in First Class. No more toast with your breakfast, and the wine is now out of boxes not bottles - they pour your glass out in the galley, hoping you won't notice.
@@Clivestravelandtrains can't even book weekend tickets in advance. Absolute shambles.
@@CommandoG331 I believe that's because of their temporary timetable due to shortage of drivers - but in a way it's just a means of putting up fares because if you need to travel you buy a walk-on ticket. Personally I sometimes use a walk-on ticket if I want the flexibility of coming back when I want, or to break my journey en-route - but most people are happy to use airline style fixed-train-only tickets because they are of course cheaper.
@@Clivestravelandtrains And now they're striking on the weekend I want to travel too. Attrocious. Should never of ditched Virgin.
Took these trains from Reading to London when there was works on the SWML, nice looking train but it’s always shaking…
I was quite impressed with the train ride.
Awesome video buddy from Alan in Lowestoft
Definitely looks a lot better than the same journey but from Oxford with Cross Country via Birmingham. Soooo cramped and such old stock I'd not be surprised if it soon started falling apart! :')
People seem to think that standard class on the 225s is better than these trains first class
The over-bright Azumas also feel more crowded than the more gently subdued 225s.
The 'all you can drink' booze offering makes any journey feel a lot smoother. The LNER first class lounge in Kings Cross is utter garbage though. And the one in Leeds? Why are so many lounges without windows? Awful. The lounge in Newcastle sucks too. Anyway, yes this is the greatest first class experience I've ever had - attentive staff, good food, great drinks. Lovely.
The construction work:
There was a help point put there but it had a massive lack of insulation and shelter problem. Very windy and chilly, such that the staff had to wear winter coats and gloves etc. Eventually they refused to work there any more. It is being redesigned and replaced as a result.
The Harrogate Azusa is great because it stops in one other station on its way to Leeds which is my local one five minutes from my house.
Perhaps you would agree LNER is the best of the long distance UK rail operators currently.
gotta love that nationalization.
I love the Azuma trains and have found the best seats in first class for a good view are K17 southbound and K16 Northbound as these are the four seat tables and prefer them even though I'm a solo traveller
My wife didn’t enjoy the video, she said you should buy the steadi cam. 😂
Really shows how service can make or break first class! GWR using the same trains with the same seating, however food/drink service is just nibbles and alcohol not even being included in the ticket! LNER shows that with good food service you can make even an awful seat seem like good value.
Just an idea for you to chew over...... Video on Steam Train outings. ie. Blue bell Railway, Swanage Railway, Lake District etc,etc,etc.
I went AZUMA last on Monday from Fife to Edinburgh from my granmum last was going in to Kirkcaldy from edinburgh to York
Den ganzen Juli über war ich mit Britrail First Class in ganz UK unterwegs. So hab ich die verschiedensten Unternehmen und Baureihen kennenlernen können. Zwar hat nicht jeder Zug eine erste Klasse, jedoch war diese, wenn sie mal da war schon etwas besonderes. Vor allem im Vergleich zu deutschen Zügen. Von kostenlosem Catering mit Snacks und Getränken, teilweise sogar ganzen Mahlzeiten kann man in unseren ICE nur träumen! Das ist nicht im Ticketpreis enthalten. Das hab ich also natürlich ausgenutzten sehr genossen! Intercity First Class in GB zu fahren ist schon ein Erlebnis. Nun gab es natürlich auch besseres und schlechteres. Der Service hat mir besonders bei Avanti sehr gut gefallen. TPE konnte bei mir wiederum mit dem Ambiente in der Nova Flotte überzeugen. Mein persönliches Highlight war nichts desto trotz die Fahrt in LNERs Mk4-Wagen. Sitzcomfort, Ambiente, Service, Fahrgefühl,… einfach alles hat gestimmt! Da war ich sehr begeistert auch wenn die Fahrt nur kurz von Leeds nach Doncaster war. Einen solchen Train-Trip würd ich definitiv wiederholen!
Sorry, dass alles in Deutsch steht. Ich war für das übersetzen zu faul 😅
Translation follows. Gern geschehen!
I spent the whole of July traveling around the UK with Britrail First Class. I was able to get to know a wide variety of companies and model series. Although not every train has a first class, it was something special when it was there. Especially compared to German trains. One can only dream of free catering with snacks and drinks, sometimes even whole meals in our ICE! This is not included in the ticket price. So of course I really enjoyed it! Driving Intercity First Class in the UK is an experience in itself. Of course there were better and worse. I really liked the service, especially at Avanti. TPE was able to convince me again with the ambience in the Nova fleet. Nevertheless, my personal highlight was the ride in LNER's Mk4 car. Seating comfort, ambience, service, driving experience,... everything was just right! I was very enthusiastic about that, even if the journey from Leeds to Doncaster was only short. I would definitely repeat such a train trip!
Sorry that everything is in German. I was too lazy to translate.
@@IScreamer Thank you!😀
Hmmm. Nearly £150 return if you can't use a railcard. Not exactly cheap. And I think more than a semi-flexible super off-peak standard class return.
Where are you getting £150 from? 🤔
Whenever i travel 1st class its always on the way back from london because there's no lounge at lincoln station. a place i would highly recommend visiting.
Interesting that the train reversed at Leeds - when the Harrogate - London services were operated by HSTs they used to continue east out of Leeds and join the ECML near Hambleton, missing out Wakefield.
Maybe that line is diesel only so the electric trains can’t go that way
@@manomaylr Harrogate Line is not electrified either...
I took the Azuma from London to York on September 5th.
OMG those seats are really bad after a while.
£51 for First Class isn’t bad I think.
Nice Vid mate.
140mph/225kmph running probably won't happen for the forseeable future. In order to do more than 125mph/201kmph, you have to have in cab signalling equipment, rather than lineside signalling.
The class 91's have the same issue.
They are 140 capable but track won't let us.
I've just travelled down from Newcastle on an Azuma in first. I was seated next to an automated pair of doors that separated standard class from first. The doors (or their mechanisms) were rattling so badly I thought they were going to fall apart but it did make the experience quite stressful for me. But it certainly wasn't the journey I was so looking forward to and has left a poor impression of the build quality.
I used this service Leeds - London in August, 1st class, agree the 1st class lounge is not great, coffee machine was working but snacks were rather poor. The trains are virtually the same as used by Southeastern on the High Speed service where 140mph is the norm. 1st class seats are fine but there is only one set of "face to face" single seats around a table per coach, all the rest are airline style ... not great when travelling as a couple. Onboard catering was not great either, on our lunchtime trip there were snacks only. Ride quality can be worse with LNER (at 125mph) than Southeastern (at 140mph) - I guess track quality must play a part with this. Overall, a missed potential. Also travelled with LNER in June, Aberdeen to London, comments apply except that Aberdeen's 1st class lounge was closed for refurbishment. At least LNER gives a kickback when booking tickets on their mobile app!
Thank you!
No mask. Feels like it's 2019 all over. Lovely.
1:25 Is this virtual reality or is this real?
Ooooh, is this the first video in 4K? Looks lovely.
6:24 Ahhh, Elland Road
9:06 Savage about Maggie. Wait until another supervillain named Liz comes around. BTW, You a rose fan or a bird?
9:54 I like the maroon colour.
13:40 I swear Queen Lizzie is mad in heaven when the security chose to fly her from Edinburgh instead of the Royal Train to this station.
14:41 Ooooh, Mrs. Travel Reports. Look forward to her voice as well.
Nice video, as always
I find the IET's can be hit and miss. Some of them are really good and you can walk along easily. Other's are rocky as hell and you struggle to stand up.
A facile comment about Mrs Thatcher. Thought you were better than that.
I went on a 5 hour 50 minute journey for Motherwell to kings cross and the comfort on the standard seat was dreadful. I got off the train with a really sore back
Go first class next time, I always go first class it's worth it as Dylan showed here 🙂
I've only ever travelled on an azuma once and that was standard class. Might give first a go as the fares seem cheap enough
Hey, when are you trying out the Heathrow Express
Apart from the WiFi then I love LNER
I found the trip and train just great just wish we had the Azuma here i Australia
Interesting thanks
Just out of interest, which exact date in August did you travel? I was on the 12:15 at some point…
ive got a question for you how come you go to Leeds a lot it seems funny when you record in leeds station as i live in leeds
Have experience riding the LNER Azusa First and Standard. Couldn’t tell much difference except seats marginally wider but just as hard and non reclining, the ‘free lunch’ in First was,pretty gross. The first class lounge in Kings Cross was packed. But they had water and crisps for anyone interested. First just wasn’t worth the extra pounds.
leeds station concourse is a lot brighter than it used to be
good video. HOpe all is good for you.
Not sure the hair cut was such a good idea!
Dylan, yet again an informative report, thanks.
Best first class? From my limited experience it probably is but please don't consider that a glowing endorsement. The services I have used reasonably regularly are limited to LNER, Cross Country and East Midlands. I live in Sheffield and I have three common journeys: London (EMR), Darlington (Cross Country) and Inverness (Cross Country to York - LNER to Inverness).
EMR and Cross Country first class aren't really worth the premium unless you really need significant space to work. The food on offer is pretty poor. If food is part of your reasoning then neither of the operators offer anything better than you could provide yourself.
I was told by LNER that food and drink and complimentary, they're not obliged to offer anything. In my experience menus will often change or the stock will be so limited they've run out if you're further down the carriage pecking order. Last trip, breakfast options were limited and in short supply and the dish menu was substituted for deli and some items were unavailable. As far as the carriages, LNER has the best aesthetics. Leg room, if not at a shared table, is really good, but then it is is standard class too. The seats in standard for a 6 hour plus journey are back breaking IMHO, first is a little better.
Is it worth the premium over standard, it depends. For a long journey and for a small uplift then it probably is. I'm heading from York to Inverness next week on a standard advance ticket which is £49. A little while back it was £29, even with the rise in price it is great value for 6.5 hours on a train. First class out was a big hike, an extra £60 or so. I have a Seatfrog bid in for the journey up but not expecting it to go through as the train is generally busy through to Edinburgh. My return is a first class advance ticket, around £70, nearly £25 extra for first but I thought I would see if it has improved since my last journey.
Typical British state of affairs when it comes to customer service/amenities. Great vid as usual chap :) 👍✌🖖👌👏🤘🤙
were you in town to queue for the queen?
Great video.
Trying first class in three weeks between Wakefield and Newcastle on lner 👍
I get that non-flexi tickets are MUCH cheaper than off peak/anytime. And I get that the East Coast Mainline has very high demand and limited spaces. But when a single, in standard, off peak, from York to London costs £123, whilst Grand Central charge £58.....
Took the azuma a couple years ago to Newcastle - yes I was in standard class and yes it was uncomfortable for a 3hour+ trip (and for reference I'm probably a fair bit shorter than Dylan 😂). Grand Central use the class 180s so probably a bit noisy but their seats cannot be more uncomfortable than on the 801's.
Last time I traveled on Grand Central, circa 2018, the seat was so uncomfortable that I stood for a large part of the journey.
Great trip report Dylan
Great video Dylan 👍
When you talk about the seat reclining will you please show the effects on the seat behind yours? Airline seats can really cause lack of space for the seat behind the reclining seat. Please it can be hard to use the table. I’m wondering if that’s the same on the trains.
The seat cushion slides forward on these seats, do you’ll loose a bit of legroom yourself, but no effect to the seat behind by reclining. 💺 4:47
Have to agree the lighting in ALL variants of the 800 is too bright, particularly at night. It's cold and could benefit from a colour temperature tone down. As for overall ambiance I think Hull Trains cabins have even better ambiance but still the hard lighting - you should try them and compare. GWR 800's have, in my view, the worst ambiance totally un-welcoming!
I still prefer the MK 4's!
So... no coffee and limited leg room with firm seats... and that is Britain's best first class... Great vlog thanks for posting
All trains have 'limited leg room'...
4:56 Video glitch 🐸